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>>Previous thread:>>95947204 >Thread Question:Which codex has the best cover art?
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>>95956099 (OP)>TQCSM and it's not even close.
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>>95956099 (OP)>TQCSM and it's not even close.
>>95956099 (OP)TS and it's not even close
>>95956110Pretty good. I wish GSC retained the 9th edition one instead of the ANGRY BALD MAN RUNNING TOWARDS THE VIEWER
>>95956110>>95956099 (OP)>TQEldar and it's not even close
We're in the final stretch of the vehicle collage. If you want to participate and you haven't done so already, please submit your vehicle as a reply to this post. Tomorrow is the last day of submissions and I'll make the collage and vote for next weeks theme over the weekend. Also, feel free to give us some suggestions for next months theme.
>>95956099 (OP)>TQI will propose a counter-example of art that should have never been allowed on a cover
Blessed OP image
I actually have a copy of the 3rd edition Ork Codex waiting at the parcel locker for me. Got it cheap.
>>95956137>Tomorrow is the last day of submissionsI thought we had until the end of the month
>>95956099 (OP)Chaos Knights and its not even close, their cover has been the best both times
Remember these Boyz
The weapons are actually quite handy today
>>95956155Fuck me too; I've been procrastinating but I thought I had 4 days...
>>95956137THE 27TH IS NOT THE END OF JUNE
>>95956137You really gonna deny us the last working weekend of the month like that? I mean, start on the collage for sure but you could at least get some submissions Monday as well.
You can post the next month's challenge/subject before the collage is done too. It's not a big deal if you need more time to finish it and can't drop it on the 1st.
>>95956155>>95956172If you finish over the weekend I might be able to squeeze you in. I'll do the collage on sunday.
>>95956163>boxposting>memberwen >it's quite handy to have more sluggasWew lad
>>95956163Lukewarm take but Orks have never had a single good boys kit.
Does anyone have the new chaos knight codex cover art they could post? please and thank you
>>95956194i beg your pardon, the 16 boyz box was great
>>95956099 (OP)>TQno question, for the duel in the bottom right
>>95956194The gorilla squat kit is excellent and only retards think otherwise.
>>95956155>>95956169>>95956172>>95956177It seems we have a few people who are on the finishing line. I apologize for stressing you and maybe not being super clear about the date. I can make the collage monday but it'll probably be out late euro hours in that case.
I'll remake the anchor post and put in the new date.
>>95956146This one is actually one of the better new art pieces, compared to horrid things like that BT one.
>>95956186Sluggas? I was more thinking the shotguns and pistols
>>95956177>>95956172>>95956169you had the entire month you dumb fucks, if you were procrastinating it till the last weekend you're probably not going to get it done anyway
>>95956214I think having the collage come out early next month is fine, no need to rush it
We're in the final stretch of the vehicle collage. If you want to participate and you haven't done so already, please submit your vehicle as a reply to this post. Monday is the last day of submissions and I'll organize a vote for next months theme over the weekend. Even if you don't participate feel free to give us some suggestions for next months theme.
>>95956216Sluggas are pistols you tourist. If you're going to Google things to larp with you should make an attempt to learn about what you're posting
>>95956215I don't see what you're seeing that's so different; the BT and WE art both suck and in similar ways.
>>95956220Not those anons but I work 6 days a week, and take care of my kids in the evenings. Not everyone can just sit around jerking off and painting minis all the time. Some of us have responsibilities and paint when we have time.
>>95956216>Sluggas? I was more thinking the shotguns and pistolsWhoa people actually weren't shitposting when they said there are people here who pretend to be in the hobby. I thought it was all just shitstirrers trying to bait people into posting their models so they could shit on them
Went to the flgs to pick up some bits and all but one of the 5 tables being used had knights in play. Fuck me
>>95956268>>95956296I've actually been playing since about 2001 I just forgot lel
>>95956309THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY POINT CANIS REX
>>95956309what is it about knights and the plebeians?
>>95956314We know you're a cunt from one of the discords.
They have an entire channel full of pics like these to post as "evidence" that they play the game so they can shit up the threads further.
>another carnac pretends he is a grog episode
>>95956401I don't know why people pretend to be grogs when they are pretty universally reviled in the wider 40k community now.
>>95956403where are grogs reviled except here?
>>95956405Places where people actually play games
>>95956403More and more people are giving up on 10e and returning to sovI each day. You will live to see GW reprinting 2e codex's and consigning the primaris molds to the scrap furnace.
>>95956417I only ever see it here, where people don't play games.
Where's my new rules?!?!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
are these bois any good? i just think they look neat
>>95956463>i just think they look neat
>>95956425GW will definitely reprint 2e for nostalgia bait at some point just like they did with rogue trader.
And inevitably all things must end so Primaris molds will break down and be destroyed or sequestered into private collections.
But only one of those will happen in my lifetime.
>>95956441How often have you heard or seen the phrase "10th edition is the most balanced the game has ever been"?
>>95956463Yeah, they're solid.
>>95956463>are these bois any good?Like all marine stuff. They are a bit over-costed, but they are usable.
>>95956469they reprinted battle for maccrage and no one gave a fuck
>>95956473I have seen it before yes. Who are you attributing that to?
>>95956494I didnt knew I really needed this comparasion chart
https://redgrimm.github.io/paint-conversion/index.html
>>95956488Because it was the worst box to reprint. The 2nd edition box or the 5th editon one would have sold very well.
>>95956163I had this set.
>>95956463Yes. There are 2 ways to use them
The first is to use small squads of them as objective takers. They have 6 inch deepstrike, good mobility and good bulk. They can drop down, kill some cultists on the home objective, then capture it. Or just do actions.
Or, in Gladius, you can run a 6 man and pop Storm of Fire to have them do really good damage to units who are otherwise in cover.
>>95956425yeah let's all return to third edition where i need to reference seven rules across two books to work out how to deep strike some terminators
some things are best left in the past anon
>>95956463I like them too. Better than the suppressors
Has GW ever explained why they replaced 4th ed raptors cool head, curved jump packs, and clawed feet with regular marines strapped to barrels?
>>95956220I had a total of four free days the last three weeks and never two consecutives. I am glad I managed to pick up the brush at all
I won't be shamed by an unemployed no models fag
>>95956314>4chan filename from 2022You tried
>>95956099 (OP)>which x has the best y TQ>didnโt link the proper previous thread most likely on purposeBros I think the throoder is back to display his mental illness to us all again.
>>95956544When has GW ever explained anything?
>>95956606We already got a Carnac mention in this thread Iโm not saying heโs back but if he is then the signs are already there.
>>95956606It's always better to assume incompetence than malevolence. Probably just copy pasted the last OP and didn't change the thread link.
>>95956214Fug I finally have time to speedpaint a tank today.
Iโll rush one out and post it in the thread today or tomorrow. Youโll check the archives to find my post for the collage right?
>>95956606>>95956618There's also medsposting...
>>95956624I think youโre right there. I genuinely get entertainment from watching the thread schizo flounder about so I was grinning ear to ear at work.
Does anyone else just write about daemon worlds that seems cool to them because anything is possible. I like creating them and then writing why different chaos and imperial forces would go to all the hassle of going to these planets
>>95956626I think there's going to be a lot of quickly slopped vehicles on the collage at this point. I think he already said he's letting bikes into the collage too so I wouldn't worry too much about any high standards
>>95956633No, chaos is boring and as creative as throwing paint on the floor.
>>95956637>t. nidfag who thinks bugs in space is an amazingly high concept
>>95956618You see the same mention every day around the same times
>>95956638>>95956637Which is more Lovecraftian Cosmic Horror: Tyranids or Chaos?
>>95956469is 2e or 4e with 3e codexes (3.5?) the better grog version?
>>95956137REEEEE ILL GET IT DONE I SWEAR
>>95956220i tend to work 6 days a week but its not really an excuse, i had a deff dread almost finished and then decided to change to something else last minute as dreads are fucking terrible atm
>>95956652Tyranids and genestealers by definition and overly obvious references.
Warhammer's chaos is the diametrical opposite of lovecraftian horrors, it's horrors that take on a great deal of personal interaction with people instead of being detached and uncaring, their existence comes from the people they care about, in their own respective evil and twisted way.
>>95956638You're free to post your cool and creative demon worlds anytime instead of projecting your insecurity towards other factions unprompted.
>>95956468it's subjective. for example, all eldar look like ass to me because i hate the conehead look. i'd probably play eldar otherwise. maybe i'll do an all-3p eldar army one day...
>>95956475>>95956477>>95956520>>95956539cool. into my blood angels list they go
>>95956233Oh shit I made it in time. Just finished an all-nighter on getting this painted up for the collage. I'll probably go back later on and work on the weathering some more but for now she's done. Gonna treat myself to some sleep now.
Yes I painted the guys in the cockpit and top console, but I forgot to take a photo of them before I glued the canopy down.
Raise hell praise Dale.
>>95956675ROCK AND STONE!
>>95956675Thatโs a lovely shade of orange. What paints did ya use?
Iโve never added chipping effects or weathering. Any color advice for a light to medium gray tankโs chipping and weathering?
>>95956652Tyranids by far they are the only truly alien race in 40k. And the GSC are a direct reference to the shadow over Innsmouth.
Chaos and the Chaos gods are born directly from human emotion that then warp and twist humans devouted to them. So still lovecraftian in the sense that its a force far above humanity causing changes in humans, but its known why and how this happens so they're less lovecraftian than the nids.
>>95956539nice painted models anon but i think the sculpt is awful. not as bad as suppressors though
>>95956686>Thatโs a lovely shade of orange. What paints did ya use?That was just Jokaero Orange over a white prime with some recess/pin shading of Reikland Flesh Shade in the panel lines and rivets. It's surprisingly easy to do.
>Iโve never added chipping effects or weathering. Any color advice for a light to medium gray tankโs chipping and weathering?I'm not an expert on the subject, for the Sagitaur I just crumpled up a napkin and blotted some AP Gun Metal down on the corners and edges where the vehicle would experience the most physical contact/wind resistance. I'm gonna go back over it later and add some scratches/lining in a lighter orange where the paint meets the chipping and a little brown rust to make it pop eventually.
Your best bet is to check out Night Shift - guy's an absolute beast at painting vehicles and weathering.
https://youtu.be/ku4comhKHJM?si=GLKg4UC9VG4ntQXy
>>95956690>friend is curious about 40k and asks about /mydudes/>so they're people who are half alien but don't know the exact nature of their being and they worship some star gods and want to topple down their world's structure to prepare for their gods' angelic descent but they're gonna get devoured instead>dude that's fucked up
>TQ
The recent codex cover arts being as great as they are honestly sets me a little bit at ease about the future of 40k. The covers were no doubt approved by massive committee but at least they have an understanding of what 40k should look like and arenโt failing around like d&d
>>95956712I think the recent covers are very hit-or-miss
>>95956738Warhammer is Model Trains for Normies
Any leaks un the upcoming Black Templar 10th edition box and combat patrol?
Debating whether to get it or not.
>>95956756I think we have two weeks before they start the marketing push. (HH and AoS release weeks). We will start getting leaks then as review copies go out and they'll show off the new combat patrol.
>>95956738The fun part is when you combine both and make a Christmas village table to play 40k on.
>>95956765>L-shaped ruins present stackThanks, I hate it
>>95956706> Your best bet is to check out Night Shift - guy's an absolute beast at painting vehicles and weathering.Will do thanks!
>>95956770L shaped ruins will remain forever because it's the easiest way to have cover that doesn't potentially damage models
can i submit something to the collage even if it sucks
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>95956488Proof that the old-timers are finally fucking gone. Hopefully they stay gone.
Broad spoilers for The Silent King;
The three main players are Guilliman, Szarekh, and Vashtorr.
Guilliman is focused on defeating the Silent King, but Cawl believes Vashtorr is the greater threat.
Szarekh's empire is crumbling around him after Imotekh's rebellion. Many Dynasties have broken off entirely to pursue their own agendas or join the rebels. The protocols used by Szarekh to maintain control have been shattered by Imotekh and Orikan, neither of whom have been seen openly in the Nexus for some time.
Vashtorr is essentially pulling off a heist, attempting to steal and corrupt the Blackstone Pylons from the Nexus.
By the time Guilliman arrives both the Imperium and the Necrons are exhausted. Guilliman grimly notes that if not for Imotekh's rebellion and the ensuing infighting between the Necrons, the Imperial invasion likely would have failed completely in later stages. His plan is to strike at Szarekh directly with an elite force of Ultramarines and Sisters of Battle to either kill the Silent King or force his withdrawal, while Cawl leads the Ad Mech in securing and depowering the Pylons using methods newly learned methods, breaking the Necron's hold on the area entirely.
Szarekh is enraged and supercharges the entire Pariah Nexus array, a risky move that could rip apart the very fabric of reality.
>Despite the oppression of the Nexus' pylons, Guilliman is able to break the hold they have over the Imperials and becomes a shining beacon of faith that they rally behind
Guilliman wounds Szarekh in a duel and forces him to retreat, but is then notified by Cawl that traitors within the Mechanicus have inverted several Pylons
Vashtorr had infiltrated the Imperials and hijacked their plan, stealing several Pylons to embed within Wormwood and rigging most others to violently overcharge
The Imperials flee the Nexus en masse as the entire section of space is ripped apart, forming a new miniature Eye of Terror as Vashtorr escapes into the Warp victorious
>>95956710I like that GSC make the population healthy and efficient so the Imperium ends with the issue that destroying a cult will end hurting their ability to make war somewhere else.
Fucking cults produce the food, ores, warmachines, medicine, consumer goods, etc for the imperium.
Fucking illegal aliens are taking the jobs of imperial citizens
>>95956832You apparently don't know how black library books work with always maintaining the status quo.
>>95956712Some of the recent arts have been absolute trash though, what are you on about? If you said this a few years ago in 9th edition I would understand, we had that one dude who did AdMech and GSC who was a god tier new artist, but nowadays things are backsliding again. The Black Templar one is a travesty.
>>95956837Imperial Guard regiments that have been infiltrated and taken over by GSC are also noted for being some of the most disciplined, cohesive and effective regiments.
>>95956832>[special character] says>[special character] does >[special character] thinksremember when a WAR game was about battles and factions and not about superheroes?
>>95956829Nevermind, I spoke too soon. Here's on of the old-timers now to bore us with his "back in my day" bullshit:
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>>95956652Been stated many times in the past, and a few other anons in this thread have already pointed it out, but:
Tyranids are Lovecraftian Cosmic Horror.
Chaos are Gothic Horror, with a tiny splash of the Lovecraft stuff too.
>>95956864Did you read the previous eight books in the series that were exactly that?
What's that?
You didn't?
No one did?
But now everyone is interested in the book that has two big named characters doing the thing?
Huh, that's so weird.
>>95956871No one is interested in any of those retarded books.
>>95956864This 100%
Forge World always did it best, but you'd get some great stuff out of Chambers and Jervis. The modern writers coming from superhero comics instead of from WW2 documentaries is utterly ruining 40k.
>>95956110How kino is this
>>95956233Technically a vehicle based on keywords (painted it this month)
Is it OK if the background is my messy hobby desk?
>>95956887agree, the americansation of WH40k is making its lore utter shit.
>>95956463they used to be pretty good from what I've read...
>>95956146why does this artist draw hands so FUCKING TINY?!!!!
And why does he make the arms look so round?? It's like the armor is made out of empty toilet paper rolls on every fucking space marine they let him draw
>>95956787yes, on /wip/ anybody could participate regardless of skill. I hope the people in /40kg/ are half as decent
>>95956864Yeah. I also remember when GW almost went bankrupt because they only focused on battles and factions. I also remember that their company became more profitable than it has ever been once they shifted focus to what you're calling "superheroes".
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>>95956633i liked this green dude so I made a model for him
>>95956871>Did you read the previous eight books in the series that were exactly that?No, because I judge books by their covers.
Also noone is interested in this one either, you just posted this summary yourself without anyone asking.
>>95956915>thing that never fucking happenedYou are retarded.
>>95956854>No named characters dying>Easily ignored 'plot hook' to maybe use in the future>Imperium wins but actually Chaos does, while Xenos get laughed at in their own houseI dunno man, feels pretty BL to me.
>>95956922>Retard doesn't know that GW almost went bankrupt twice in its history.Gotta love when tourists who don't know the history expose themselves.
>>95956915No, the company became more profitable the moment it killed 7th edition, breathing fresh air into the game, and by providing discounted start collecting boxsets.
Not thanks to superheroes, if you're going to argue it's a cause instead of an incidence then you also have to argue that stormcasts brought gw back from bankruptcy.
>>95956932Yeah, it just doesn't fucking work unless the legs are off.
>>95956932Now I remember the fan art about xcom mech troopers.
>>95956940The announcement that Guilliman was coming back was a massive driving force in the explosion of sales that 8th Edition saw.
>>95956937I know all of the history, in much, much greater detail than you, I promise you.
The company did not recover because of a "focus on superheroes" like you are suggesting. Black Library doesn't even make 1% of the companies profits. Fucking idiot.
>>95956966There is zero proof of this at all. The explosion of sales came from the game getting redone completely with brand new rules for the first time in 20 years.
>>95956919based
>>95956955The names are for the top row of daemons, the bottom row are nameless
>>95956966There were a few main reasons that 8th was so successful it largely saved GW. One was the introduction of contrast paints and the accompanying marketing campaign that really got people hyped (as well as the paints themselves actually delivering on what they promised). Then we had what was effectively a range refresh of the entire space marine range, which both made GW:s biggest paypiggies rebuy entire armies, and served as the perfect jumping on point for fresh new players. Finally, the 8th edition rulesset was just far, far better than the 7th ed rules. They were simpler, more intuitive and made the game so much easier to play, so it was much easier to introduce new people to it. No beginner would happen to come across the abominations that were 7th ed lists with triptides and jetbike spam allied together with culexus assassins. Armies made sense, everyone was on equal footing and it was just a great time to get into 40k.
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>>95956955>>95956995he'll be game ready in no time
>>95956966No, it really wasn't
>>95956935They're not ending the Pariah Nexus warzone and they're not creating a new Eye of Terror in a side book series. That kind of shit happens in edition changes or narrative events.
>>95956998There's also the fact that the reason GW was failing in the first place wasn't 40k, but all the other bad investments they made. Fantasy had been unprofitable for a long time because of poor rules decisions with the last few editions. Then they killed it entirely and rebooted it with the retarded Age of Sigmar launch which I think people forget just how bad that was at the start before the General's Handbook - almost all of the money and resources poured into that were completely and utterly wasted. Lord of the Rings had been on a decline for awhile since it was a boom and bust project from the beginning that coasted on the success of the Peter Jackson films which were losing their new shine as years went by. And of course 40k itself was a shitshow in 6th and 7th with worsening art, lore, and rules, but even still, it probably could have been barely profitable if not being dragged down by the debt of the other dead weight systems.
>>95956998Summarized it pretty well, but let's also not forget the pandemic hobby bump too.
>>95956998Times I actually enjoyed 40k.
First years of 3rd.
First years of 4th when everyone had 3rd editions codex.
That strange time during the last years of 7th when my local group never waacfagged so we never encounter the horrors of 7th.
The first years of 8th
That last year of 9th.
Everything else has been rather ass and I ended playing other games.
am i nuts if I played since fifth and think that 10th isn't that bad compared to 6th and 7th
>>95957028This. As with most things it really was the consequence of many things aligning at just the right time, people are far too quick to jump on a single reason when changes like this often come from many happening at once.
Do you think Space Marines will get another total redesign in the next 10 years or so?
Primaris are almost a decade old now.
>>95957024Ah warhammer fantasy. When you need like 40 models for a single unit, and the kit they sold you came with 10 models.
And you needed at least 4 of those to play the most basic bitch army.
>>95957035>First years of 3rd.>First years of 4th when everyone had 3rd editions codex.>That strange time during the last years of 7th when my local group never waacfagged so we never encounter the horrors of 7th.>The first years of 8th>That last year of 9th.Holy shit are you literally me? Described it to a T, like exactly. Only change I would make is that 8th I probably enjoyed for just 1 year at the start and lost interest rapidly.
>>95957037no, but it's always more popular to say the present is the worst time ever
>>95957044They don't need to. For GW to get bigger it's now far less about the product - which is good enough as it is for their purposes - and far more mass advertising and appeal, like with Space Marine 2 and the Amazon show.
>>95957037Nah, I started around the same time and also have a similar opinion of all those editions. I think I genuinely like 9th the most though, despite all its flaws.
>>95957037I can't get over the partial removal of customization options and lack of points to a degree where I think it might legitimately be the worst thing they've ever done in terms of personal enjoyment. Beyond that it's not the worst edition though, I agree, even if it's a waste of 8e's potential.
>>959570377th on its own is not a bad ruleset. It's failing come from trying to fix the utter garbage that 6th allowed and codex permitted.
Because if you removed the stupid bullshit like the alliance or the free upgrades, it can work pretty well.
Can't say the same thing for 10th many of the issue of today stem from the ruleset.
>>95957037Not in the slightest. 10th is a perfectly fine edition, ruleswise. It's had some bumps with some weird rulings and a plague of waac-faggery, but it is nice for just playing 40k. I did a narrative campaign with some buddies recently and 10th worked really nicely, we all could play both varied and very fluffy armies for the scenarios we did (for example, I played GSC and went through broodsurge, outlander claw and ascension host for the three scenarios I played and every time the detachment enhanced the mission narrative).
>>95957011This made me realise none of the gods have monkey dudes serving them
>>95957047I played GSC and SoB, so I got enjoy the dumb 8th index rules of SoB for a lot longer.
Faith Shield and the Celestine missile was a fun meme.
>>95957068>7th on its own is not a bad ruleset. It's failing come from trying to fix the utter garbage that 6th allowed and codex permitted.You're saying 7th is a bad ruleset that alos had bad codexes
"remember when" is the lowest form of conversation
>>95957099Your mom is the lowest form of conversation.
>>95957099"look at current thing" I find to be lower
>>95957075the emperor does
>>95956633>ArneYou don't want to open that can of worms anon
>>95957106I see what you did there mr eldar
>>95957116I think he thinks about jikaros, literal space monke
>>95957124Do the technorangutans work for the imps?
I don't really think it warrants a separate thread, but it is a topic I'd like to get some information from and you guys know your shit, so: why is it that 40K, and I would assume Warhammer as a whole, is so bereft of sex appeal? I don't mean the off-model Tau or any kind of typical coomer/gooner trappings, I mean just normal cheeky, risquรฉ content that exists in pretty much any other game to some extent. Is it intentionally sanitized from this topic to keep it focused on the grim and dark that is eternal warfare, or is it just not something that gets brought up but is implicit?
Genuine question, would appreciate genuine replies.
>>95957124no i was making a man joke but also yes the emperor has literal space orangutan genius savants too
>>95957143It wasn't always and you can see that in old art and models. But I think you can figure out why that's not the case now.
>>95957143Military/history/fantasy nerds made it
IP grubbers sanitizes it for investors
>>95957153I just realized the ecclesiarchy kt guy's hat was directly lifted from this artwork
I swear to christ everything "new" is just old stuff
>>95957143>Genuine question, would appreciate genuine replies.I'm 90% sure you're just shitstirring but in case you aren't - it's because GW still clings to the illusion that their main consumerbase is middle aged women buying models for their 12 year old Timmies. Plus retarded corporate agenda that requires growth every year no matter what so they have to make the system as inoffensive as they can so as many people as possible can potentially get into it without being offended.
>>95957143>so bereft of sex appeal?One of GW biggest markets is mothers buying toys for their little Timmys. Mums will not really buy models with periced perky tits hence why Slaanesh and Dark Eldar are some of the least sold army ranges.
GW weird puratinism in models despite the grim dark violence it also shows in models is just a reflection of our own societies double standards of, violence and death is good normal and fine for kids to play with, but female nipples and the naked human form is not.
>Hacking someones head off with a chainsaw axe in service of satan is fine as a villian for little timmy to play with, a topless daemon women with exposed female nipples is not
>>95957143because it was a product of the 80s targeted at middle aged nerds instead of teenager nerds, and because when it got popular and aimed at younger people it also had to be made safer for mass appeal and younger targets than teenagers.
>>9595717510 yo me loved the weird and edgy
10 yo me would not care about 40k today
>>95957160There is a reason why the old folks are super salty about modern 40k.
It feels like someone killed your friend and is wearing their skin and is trying to gaslight you into thinking this has always been this way.
>>95957143Old warhammer was held back in terms of sex appeal because, in spite of John Blanche's addiction to BDSM shit, the design team couldn't produce a female sculpt that didn't look like a gouty gorilla if their lives depended on it.
There's a small sex window with the Juan Diaz Deamonettes when citadel could produce attractive minis and weren't sanitized tae fuck.
>>95957173>One of GW biggest markets is mothers buying toys for their little TimmysBig doubt. Little timmy can't afford this, and mothers would rather throw a tablet to their kids (cheaper too)
>>95957184This, except it's not just the doppelganger trying to gaslight you
I'd say take me back but then I'd have to go through this bullshit again, send me fast forward in time instead, only hope I've got
>>95957173> violence and death is good normal and fine for kids to play with, but female nipples and the naked human form is not.This always baffles me to no end, it's so fucking retarded. No matter how much you try to twist it I can't imagine seeing a naked male or female form would be more damaging to a childs psyche than soft gore
>>95957196Gentlemen, BEHOLD
>>95957196>There's a small sex window with the Juan Diaz Deamonettes when citadel could produce attractive minis and weren't sanitized tae fuck.is there anything else in that window?
>>95957198Well then the reason is as this anon said
>>95957165Corperate sanitation that grind off anything that could hypothetically upset someone to sell more of your product to more hypothetical people
>>95957160To be fair its a sick artwork and people wanted GW grade minis that reflected some of the background characters since the artwork was released. Everyone was pleased when that Blanche Black Templar model was released and broke several soft 'rules' on how space marines should look.
>>95957219>broke several soft 'rules' on how space marines should look.Elaborate
>>95957215Does the boob snake count?
>>95956914>they used to be pretty good from what I've read...what's the story here?
>>95957238Unit was OP
Guy bought two dozen
Unit was nerfed as he was painting them
No :'( only :^)
>>95957222here's the article about it, im talking about the Castellan model.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/v6bQ8fOo/redesigning-the-black-templars-how-the-team-updated-the-chapter-that-refuses-to-change/
The space marine is shorter and far wider than normal, like he has a different physcial frame or build compared to the standard. His power axe has a power cord making it pretty impractical as a weapon. His shoulder pads are two scultped skulls. The squat wide build is the main one though, every other space marine has a more lean frame and are taller
>>95957251He is a big guy
>>95957251>His power axe has a power cord making it pretty impractical as a weapon.Da fuq? Did GW forgot they had power weapons with cords and BT weapons literally chain to their arms?
>>95957068I think 7th has more balance issues than just ally matrix and detachments/free upgrades
Lords of War, the Psychic phase, waaay too many Special Rules and Monsters being so good compared to vehicles made the game super anti-fun.
A lot of the cope about 7th is "Oh, it doesn't matter that much because if you didn't play WAAC it didn't effect you" but things like a Dread going to fight a Riptide or something and getting beaten into the dirt because of the differences between Monster and Vehicle was just sad, man.
What's the most reddit legion?
>>95957297sallys or lamenters
>>95957247well yeah i can see that, i was hoping for specifics
was it an emergency nerf because of an accidental interaction? why was he in such a rush?
>>95957173...Do you think Dark Eldar models still have perky tits and visible nudity?
>>95957297dark / blood angels and it's not close.
>>95957209Yeah its a pretty dumb double standard when you think about it. The Imperium also literally worships the human form as divine, hence the hatred of mutants for corrupting the human shape. And any xenos that look like humans as their excistence corrupts the human ideal. Thats why there's skulls everywhere. So what I saying is there should be statues of naked men and women celebrating the ideal human form, something like ancient greece, all around the Imperium and it should be reflected in art and terrain models
Had a game the other day where a situation came up with secondary missions and controlling objectives. If I have a single unit large enough to be within range of and controlling more than one objective marker, can it be selected for the action on the Cleanse secondary mission? If so, when the action completes, are both of the objectives they are within range of and controlling cleansed?
I still think yes, but my opponent wasn't convinced, so I just went with them to keep the game going.
>>95957303I don't keep track of stupid people's mistake, I don't have enough space
>>95957212The story behind this model is so funny. She has been HARD retconned out of the lore though.
>>95957305No I'm saying they should, they can't lean into their true aesthetic as much as they should but the remaining bdsm coded and lithe models is enough to drive those kind of buyers away. At least hypothetically from corperate GW view hence the lack of support for the army and the shit Lelith model
>>95957324Fuck lore then
Orks are blue now DEAL WITH IT
>>95957297Sallies and fists. Varak loves the fists and hes the platonic ideal of a redditor bugman
>>95957303Yes it was emergency nerf because GW I believe made them cost 20 points per model or something ridiculous like that that the trannoid and redditor moved at lightning speed to abuse the fuck out of
>>95957319I agree with your take and so does google search.
>>95957111Who is arne? The artist? I just found the pic I know nothing about them
>>95957251he's from a more experimental time
>>95957319Going by RAI, the answer is no.
Going by RAW, the answer is yes.
I'd allow it personally, but I usually roll off with my opponent in ambiguous scenarios like this and let the dice decide.
>>95957324No? I mean she's been ignored and subtly dropped because of her silly name most likely, but like I don't recall anything in the lore in all the intervening decades that says explicitly that she never existed. I wouldn't call that a hard retcon. Simply ignoring an old awkward bit of lore and never talking about is pretty much definitionally the softest possible retcon to the point it's not even a retcon.
>>95957356Sculpture was modelled on the sculptor's wife. He refused to cover her up in any way. Painters were told to paint a leotard on her despite his wish that she be naked except for the string thong.
She used to be the Archon of one of the main Kabals of Commorragh, but they replaced her with a different character and the Emasculators haven't been mentioned in any way since 5th edition.
>>95956099 (OP)Here ya go fren!
>>95957391Why does GW hate women?
>>95957397because they don't buy their products
>>95957391>Archon of one of the main Kabals>called the emasculatorsOf course! do you think she crushed the balls of her enemies and those who failed her?
>>95957408But all of the heckin vtubers reacted to the lore sloptubers. Don't tell me they didn't actually buy models?!
>>95957412friends and foes alike
>Kruellagh's luxuriating delight in killing her foes means that her raids return to Commorragh with few slaves>The Kabal is dominated by its female members; its male members are virtually enslaved to their will
>>95957395>Already have itThe fuck? Did they give this away before for something in-game? I've never redeemed a code before
>>95957430So just 40k Morathi then.
Come to think of it, it's weird that the 40k dark elves don't have a seductive femme fatale anymore. Lelith doesn't really count because she's autistic.
GW should bring back armor facings so that there's a benefit to flanking vehicles again.
desu they should have rules for flanking most units in general, 10th edition feels like fucking DOTA and not anything like actual wargames
>>95957408Then why remove the big tiddy models. Only ugly women who do not buy model hate those.
please make it make sense
>>95957355>>95957369Arne / Android Arts is a very prolific artist with a huge portfolio of very fun ideas for a shitload of games and others.
His website is a goldmine https://androidarts.com/
On a technical aspect he's phenomenal (or she, Idk and Idc).
He has a bit of an obsession with femarines and other political stuff.
His retrohammer sketches are really wonderful still
>>95957447Because for a long period of time GW's target audience was middle aged british mums
Why is it that whenever someone posts "Make it make sense" it's them being completely retarded
>>95957442Dota has turning rates.
>>95957449Anon when you say 'can of worms' I was expecting he was an artist for furries and buddies with zoo sadists and pedos, or that he's a rapist or something like that. Not that he like a lot of artists are leftwing and he makes some gay art every now and then
>>95957466This constitutes a can of worms here, I swear!
His stuff is pretty cool if you don't mind rolling your eyes every now and then
Is the middle aged mums target audience just something Peachy claimed in that one podcast where he talked GW's dirty laundry or has that been repeated elsewhere to be such a commonly held belief?
>>95957466You say 'leftwing' and 'pedo' as though they were different things.
>>95957474I can both think these are cool designs and also think some of them don't belong in 40k. Neat ideas though. Always fun to see fan art reimaginings.
>>95957495Roughly half of all people are left wing. 50% of people are not pedos. Also there's loads of conservative pedos as theres left wing ones
>>95957494Aren't all boy toys (as in toys for boys) actually targeted towards mothers?
>>95957452>middle aged british mumsDoubt. The game was cheap enough to be bought by the money a child could get.
>>95957494It is or was a real thing when it came to statistics from warhammer stores.
I am sure that scalpers have overtaken moms though.
The real โtruthโ that is repeated with no proof is the dark angels ship being named after a gay nightclub. There still is no evidence such a club or bar existed during the to rogue trader days as much as I want it to be true.
I think it is just an elaborate troll that has transcended a joke because nobody wants to hurt the feelings of sensitive internet gays.
>>95957496Cheers, I also recommend Patso Catso, they've got quite a few 40k art, with various degrees of seriousness.
>>95957511I can't believe Michael Bay plays dark angels
>>95957474Lol okay fair enough. I like his reimagining of the chaos androids. The bayonet being a mantic claw thing is sick
>>95957499>loads of conservative pedosStatistically speaking this is not true. The only way that statement could be true is if you consider Persian and Arabic men as conservative.
From a not so fun fact. A child is more likely to get molested at public school by faculty member , than priest or its equivalent in any religious institution.
>>95957556Nta but I need proofs I want to believe this is true.
>>95957540The chaos dwarf is very spiffy, so is the SC dread
I love terminators
His portfolio goes on and on and on, tons of cool ideas Wait till you find the Lego Ice Planet stuff
>>95957553This is gay as fuck.
>>95957553>Sure he's got 2/3rs of his body blown up and is a cripple, but he's hot!You KNOW she kept the custo-D
>>95957511The rock bar? Think it is the pepper rock bar now.
It was not a gay bar, but everyone is gay in the UK so for the outsider it might have looked like a gay bar. Easy mistake to make.
>>95956675>>95956908Nice.
>>95956626I'l double check the archive to see if I missed anyone, don't worry.
>>95957510I was a kid at the time. The frequent box sets are how most kids actually started the army after maybe the first box, and when you add in glue paint and the like, it quikcly became out of reach for your average kid
>>95957556That could very easily be a reporting problem. A kid is far more likely to be molested by a close family member, and rates of abuse are wildly underreported by organizations like the LDS and its affiliates who rail against sex ed. You canโt report your pastor for being a sex pest if you donโt have the language to describe what was done to you.
>>95957556The only places in the USA that try to legalize child marriage are all deep republican territory.
>>95957604Most retarded thing I've ever heard.
>>95957621Good thing you read it then.
>>95957604those animals SHE WAS ONLY 25 YEARS OLD!
>>95957474Oh, this guy. I was checking out his Diablo drawings a while ago. Good stuff.
>>95957564It depends on the study, but on the top my head and this news article in particular claims that about 10% of the kids in a school will get molest (Fucking 4chan wont let me post the link, thinks it is spam )
>>95957604I recall it was places like california that lower the punishment for raping children. Take that like you want
>>95957604Funny, I just opened X and immediately one of the first posts was announcing that some leftoid child therapist from New York just pled guilty to sharing infant rape porn. And this kind of shit is like a near daily occurrence. Never once had one of the conservatives I follow get outed as a pedo though.
Hey, remember that time Kyle Rittenhouse shot three random leftists that tried to attack him at a riot, and two of them turned out to be child sex offenders? Gee, what are the odds?
>>95957495The American education system at work
>>95957659The American education system that's been overtaken by subversive leftists is why we have so many of those retards destroying the country right now.
>>95957654Tell me about your dudes. They do have names?
>>95957657Insurrection, not a riot. Those degenerates were trying to topple the entire government.
>>95957654War Ham 40 Thousands
>>95957621>At least 207,468 minors married in the US between 2000 and 2015, according to data compiled by Unchained At Last, a group campaigning to abolish child marriage, and investigative documentary series Frontline. The true figure is likely to be much higher because 10 states provided no or incomplete statistics.>The youngest wedded were three 10-year-old girls in Tennessee who married men aged 24, 25 and 31 in 2001. >The youngest groom was an 11-year-old who married a 27-year-old woman in the same state in 2006. Children as young as 12 were granted marriage licences in Alaska, Louisiana and South Carolina, while 11 other states allowed 13-year-olds to wed. More than 1,000 children aged 14 or under were granted marriage licences.The most extreme US child marriages are in Republican territory. I get that all right wing greivances are projection but it child marriage is overwhelmingly a Republican issue.
>Highest rates of child marriage>1. Nevada (0.671%)>2. Idaho (0.338%)>3. Arkansas (0.295%)>4. Kentucky (0.262%)>5. Oklahoma (0.229%)>6. Wyoming (0.227%)>7. Utah (0.208%)>8. Alabama (0.195%)>9. West Virginia (0.193%)>10. Mississippi (0.182%)9/10 Republican states.
The reason that these marriages happen is because the kids are raped out of wedlock and so need to be married to their husbands as this is more in line with God's wishes than abortion
Senator Mike Moon even brought up that he knew kids who got married at 12 and that's just part of parents raising their kids how they want.
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-lawmaker-defends-12-year-olds-getting-married/
>>95957621bro the sitting republican president is a known pedo
>>95957666They're just cadians, I don't give names because I like the nameless grunts feel, sorry Satan
>>95957672Did you really buy four sets of overpriced dice?
Looks cool
>>95957694So is every single one of the democrats who were all implicated in the pizzagate shit.
Hey remember how all the journalists who reported that pizzagate was a fake conspiracy also eventually got arrested for child porn?
>the red jews are pedos!
>no, the blue jews are pedos!
>>95957665carnac you are a canadian rightwing pedo who lives in west london ontario though and you shouldnโt samefag your pedo posts so much
Hey, pdf files aren't allowed on 4chan anymore after the last outage. Haven't you guys been paying attention?
Let's get back to talking about 40k.
>>95957724Someone say "Children"?
>>95956488>>95956505That and it was fucking expensive. I'd have sprung for a box or two of AoBR even if it was $300, but Battle for Macragge was just too low value for what they were asking. Wasn't it only a Terminator squad, a downed pilot, that terrain, and a bunch of gants for $300?
>>95957747>Terminator squadYou mean a tactical squad?
>>959576661st company captain: Zorro Llameante
2nd company captain: Varga Amman, not actually captain but senior veteran in charge.
3rd company captain: Gustav Von Francois
4th company captain: same as Varga, named Severan Santohs
5th company captain: Mโotann โThe AnvilโNarsehs
6th company captain: Bโโoโfa Diaz
7th Company: same as Severan and Varga, named Javi Muellar
8th company captain: Cavalla Menโdohs
9th company captain: Faramus HasdarโGet
10th company captain: HekโUlon Garโdos
High chaplain: Nubari Sangar
Chief apothecary/ Master of the Forge: 8th company captain
Forgefather: Erasmus Balcorruah
>>95957747>terminatorsNot even, it was 10 space marines
>>95957769Bofa deez?
Really?
>>95957736>emperor child predator
>>95957772My wifeโs little brother bought me the mini, he requested I give him a meme name. I did. These things happen. Coincidentally Bโoโfa Diaz has proven too big for several Haruspexโs to swallow during games.
>>95957666Archon Maleum Xarxes of the Kabal of Shattered Majesties
Succubus Turgrid Effaryana of the Cult of the Fractal Fugue
Haemonculus Crucian Al'temnilas of the Coven of Iterate Perfections
Hierarch Drakari, Incubi Dark Father of the Excoriates
how do I make a space marine army, there's too many units and idk what's worth a shit
>>95957822>idk what's worth a shitYou're doing it wrong
Find models you like, build around that
>>95957747The only thing interesting about that starter was the pilot and the terrain.
>>95957822Buy what you can find cheap. Paint it. Find a color scheme you like. See what chapter matches that color. Lean into their theme to buy another couple models. Play a game or two. Feel out what your list is missing. Buy stuff to fill that hole. Paint it all. Take a lot of pictures of it. Look at what appeals to you next.
>>95957474I respect the effort even if I dont think the old sculpts/designs fit the modern design language.
Its like if someone remade a model T
>>95957747Back in my day they sold battle for macragge for 50$.
>>95957835The value proposition on modern boxes is getting a little suspect at this point. I wonder how much they are going to try to ask for the 11th edition start box.
>>95957849You'll pay $400 and you'll be happy.
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>>95956832>cool imperium vs xenos conflict (necrons specifically)>everyone involved are having a great time>chaos smashes through the proverbial wall like the Kool-Aid man yet again>all imperium and xeno players lose interest immediatelyTypical, tale as old as time.
Just found out my sister army is going to cost almost twice what I thought because so many of these boxes only give you five models.
>>95957859Literally, why do they think people want this shit. It was never a thing in the past.
>>95957864ask the mcdonalds manager to give you a few more shifts
>>95957859Space marine 1 and 2.
>oops it's chaos!Hell even fucking dawn of war did it.
Fighting orks and eldar.
Oops is chaos!
>>95956832as someone who owns the book, none of that is accurate, vashtorr doesnt appear whatsoever
>>95957881What is that famous 40kg saying? Chaos is the spice of life!
>>95957881Space marine 2 almost had necrons
>>95957892That is not a famous saying here, it's just Carnac being a faggot.
>>95957880I have money to burn already anon or I wouldnt be starting hobbies like this, I simply find humor in the constant penny pinching.
>>95957884So what did that guy you responded to just hallucinate everything?
>>95957908yeah or just try to make it up to psyk out the board, like we are already going to call the novel shit (me included even though I like the book) so if you can make shit up that sounds plausible it poisons the well before someones even taken a drink
>>95957865Because GW is retarded and is obsessed in forcing all factions possible into a warzone if possible.
And they do it because they believe it'll help sell more shit if they involve every possible faction in a conflict. When in reality it just turns the entire conflict into formless grey mush without any detail behind it.
>>95957881The reveal really took me away from SM2.
>oh man how are we gonna beat back these tyranids and gain the upper hand?>OOPS ITS THOUSAND SONS THEY WERE HERE THE ENTIRE TIME
>>95957849>getting a little suspect at this point.When I look at a single character miniature going at 40 bucks I already want to punch everyone involved
Prices are already bullshit by a long shot
>>95957898Yeah, it's so fucking lame.
It would've been much fucking cooler to see necrons as the 2nd secret villain instead of Chaos again.
But then I guess they couldn't have done the whole power source plot point again.
>>95957922tyranids have zero narrative power
they should never be anything more than horde mode jobbers
>>95957916When they exclude factions people bitch, and it was a running joke about the Tau for a while since they couldn't go to say armageddon
>>95957925I dont think they planned for SM2 to be as popular as it is, having necrons would have been really cool, but at the same time I don't know what youd do with them from a design perspective
I guess you could make Lychguard like a Doom Eternal maurader, someone you actively have to duel.
necron warriors are chaff with beam weapons
Crypteks can do anything honestly
>>95957937>When they exclude factions people bitchAnd let them bitch, make a different warzone for those factions then.
>>95957826I know I like bikes, as I understand they were buffed
but their leadership option is meh
>>95957950and then the people not in that warzone will bitch.
>>95957666>B Co. 614th Death Korps of Krieg Siege Regiment1x Company Command Squad
2x Infantry Platoons
1x Tank Platoon
1x Basilisk Artillery Platoon/Battery
>Company Command StaffCaptain Arnim (Company Commander)
Commissar Danilov (Regimental Commissar)
1x 10-man Company Command Squad
1x Centaur Light Assault Carrier
>1st PlatoonLieutenant Starnerr (Platoon Commander)
1x 5-man Command Squad
2x Infantry Squads (Melta Guns)
1x Grenadier Storm Squad
1x Heavy Weapons Squad (Autocannons)
1x Centaur Light Assault Carrier
>2nd PlatoonLieutenant Venner (Platoon Commander)
1x 5-man Command Squad
2x Infantry Squads (Flamers)
1x Grenadier Storm Squad
1x Heavy Weapons Squad (Heavy Bolters)
1x Centaur Light Assault Carrier
>3rd Platoon Lieutenant Kagorik (Platoon Commander)
1x Leman Russ Demolisher (Command Tank)
1x Leman Russ Vanquisher
1x Leman Russ Executioner
>4th Platoon Lieutenant Hebiz (Platoon Commander)
3x Basilisk Artillery Vehicles (One of which is designated as command vehicle)
>>95957925fucking lame can describe a lot of sm2
>>95957881Because Chaos has no empire or massive standing army in Imperial space. They only raid and invade and then vanish. Chaos has nothing to protect or defend.
>>95957925Space marine is about the SM power fantasy, so hordes of bad guys and then CHAOS
>>95957985genuine chuckle
>>95957987Chaos is not a part of the space marine fantasy. If anything, it's a deconstruction of the space marine fantasy.
>>95957951>I like bikesYeah?
>They were buffedIf you buy and paint minis around the current rules you're fucked buddy
You're gonna spend a month assembling and painting it and then before you even start getting a hang on how to play it you're gonna complain about the rules being bad
Get models you like for the model itself, then build around it
>>95957970And let them bitch, those faggots already have a warzone for their factions.
>>95957996No, it is. It is the Imperialization of Chaos. It is saying over a vast galaxy, Chaos's servants are all Space Marines or Imperium. No Chaos Xenos, barely Daemons. The Emperor's Greatest Plan will work. Abaddon the Loyalist, his most trusted ally, is working to make Chaos xenos-free and only Imperial with his Imperium Nihilius. Across the multiverse, all Chaos will be another flavor of Imperium and especially Space Marine. This is the ultimate Marine Fantasy.
>>95957982Sure, but reusing the same plot over and over again is getting old. How many times are we going to do the "x faction is invading an Imperial world, but the invasion was actually secretly manipulated by chaos to serve some mysterious end!" thing? Why can't we have a game where another faction is invading an Imperial world without being manipulated by chaos into doing so?
Did anyone else here think the studs on armor were service studs. I always felt it made more sense until I found out about the bonding studs
>>95957881Dawn of War 2 has you covered. Its Tyrannids.
>>95958015>fighting Chaos>but the secret enemies were Necrons all along
>>95958014Sounds like Space Marines are part of the Chaos Fantasy now. Just gotta finish getting demons out of the setting.
>>95957881Rogue Trader did it the opposite way
>Investigate Tzeentch Cult/Word Bearer conspiracy>Oops, its Necrons
>>95958022I feel like you could have Necrons or Eldar be the main enemy and then reveal the other one was manipulating the Imperium into fighting their ancient nemesis for them.
>>95957996Yeah man I'm sure being immune to chaos fuckery and foiling the chaos plot that threatens the imperium and mankind isn't part of the space marine fantasy, which is why it wasn't part of the two fucking space marine games.
>>95957931Yeah. I mean look at Aliens. They tried to build a narrative around facing xenomorphs and it was a complete disaster. No one likes that movie.
>>95958015just drop chaos for the 3rd and have it be the orks coming in for some fun in the second half
>>95957864>my sister armyNigga u just a daydreaming failure u never had an army nigga u just daydream get the fuck out my general nigga
>>95958040Where's the Chaos in Halo, Starship Troopers, Aliens, StarCraft, Avatar, hears of War, or Helldivers? Even Doom is a bit of a stretch.
>>95958081*farts on u r post*
whoops sorry anon
>>95958086Doom is chaos bro.
It's the literal inspiration of the flesh metal lore that makes up 90% of the mutating marine stuff. Obliterators, even in 3rd edition we hade mutated hull vehicle upgrades that came out in the early 2000's.
>>95958055you have to flick your wrist
>>95958086I said Space Marines, anon, not Space Marines, this is /40kg/, not /sci-fig/
Only Halo and the book/japanese movies of STs are space marines, what the fuck are you talking about
So what's the verdict, is it a good book?
Thinking about buying myself.
>>95958136dunno, ask /hhg/
>>95958136>BL>GoodHave a guess
>>95958136>40k bookMan I don't even want to read the good ones, I don't suck the LOOOOOOORE's balls like that
>>95958136Why do they have titans standing there. Why not just build some big turrets or something. What if one of them falls off??
>>95958142Funny that you should say that, since there seems to be much more input regarding to fluff-discussion in here than on /hhg/.
>>95958152yeah because faggots like you keep bringing it up
>>95957781Silly Anon. There are no Predators in the Emperor's Children
>>95958173Not so. You would not find the same inter-activeness on the other boards.
Besides, HH fluff is 40k fluff, so stop whining
>>95958183What vehicles do they even get??
>>95958189Rhinos and Land Raiders. No Predators, Vindicators, Forgefiends (we have Maulerfiends but we're not allowed to put the other bits onto the model), nor even a dreadnought
>>95958136Its a couple of short stories. Some are good, some are not, and most of this depends on which Legions and Characters you liked from the books before.
>>95958196I don't understand why people play this fucking edition
>>95958203it is the one we are on
>>95958203Me neither. I saw the writing on the wall when they turned Points Values into Power Level 2.0
>>95958209We? Who's "we" nigga?
>>95958210There's so many bullshit like this that I cannot fully grasp how shit this edition is.
It's like thinking about every kind of animals out there, there's just too much of this
Apparently I got a voucher from GW. Since when did they start giving out free stuff?
>>95958189>>95958183>no predators in emp children>literally says children, and yet they have "no predators"
>>95958123I mean dice in the options field
>>95958203>>95958221I like the addition of the autogun sergeant for the imperial guard in tenth and thats about it. I doubt anyone will let me play an autogun sergeant in previous editions unless I let them field a homebrew unit but maybe it is a fair trade to let one guy field a homebrew model if you let the other field a homebrew model.
>>95958238>I like the addition of the autogun sergeantwhy?
>>95958223I won remastered version of the Space Marine and I told them I wanted a Steam version but they sent me an Xbox Key and there's that. I can probably redeem it on the Xbox Store and play it on PC.
>>95958238Autiguns and lasguns used to be indistinguishable. Sargeants used to be able to take lasguns. That extra situational s3 shot isn't going to do much
>>95958238autogun is the same stats as a lasgun and we could give that to sergeants if you go far back enough. the drum fed autogun is a different story but thats probably not going to end up doing much anyway
>>95958203Never played any earlier ones so I don't know what I am missing.
>BAngels are codex non-complaiant because the successor chapters cooperate with the founding chapter in legion formation (plus Astorathโs shenanigans)
>DAngels are codex non-compliant because the successor chapters secretly cooperate with the founding chapter and have force organization outside of the Codex
>Ultramarines are cooperating with their successor chapters to rule Ultramar, have extra companies outside of compliant force organization, Gulliman has his own personal company of honor guard that travel with him on his Crusade
Guysโฆ..I donโt think the Ultramarines are a Codex Compliant chapterโฆ
>new leman russ kit doesn't come with the tank upgrade sprue
Wtf? I know we got an extra turret. But what the fuck. Now I need to buy 3 extra fucking sprues just to have armored tracks on my tanks
>>95957540I love space crusade. I still have my old box with all the bitz :) the sculpts are so psoulful
>>95958259They don't come with them because the crew bits were put into the tanks sprues back in 5e. Only the Basilisk comes with the sprue these days, since it hasn't been updated beyond swapping the hull to the new Chimera hull. If you want track guard without a whole new sprue, might want to look at 3rd parties or China.
>>95958244nta but I was perturbed by the idea 2 of my dudes fired one gun, and my serg was forced to fire a pistol as a guard player for many years
then now its only heavy weapons teams and the sergeants can now be upgraded/sidegraded with rifles like the rest of the squad has
>>95958244I think autoguns look aesthetically pleasing to mine eyes. Thatโs really it.
>>95958252>>95958253Itโs more about rule of cool for me while also trying to make sure that the army is not a pushover to waste my opponents time as paradoxically as it sounds.
And Iโve learned from games that guard gets wrecked in melee easily so might as well go give the infantry the best ranger they can get.
>>95958269It's a shame the Desolation Squad missile launcher wasn't just an updated Space Crusade one.
>>95958196It is strange how GW seems to be replacing the World Eaterโs role as the fast attack infantry CSM army with the EC. Like at least release a new Brass Scorpion kit for the WE so they could be a Demon Engine army like in their lore like damn.
>>95958299Not really, WE outperform and outpace EC still
>>95958299>excuse to make EC fanboys repaint their vehicles or run a "second army they gotta' buy now"Feels like Iron Warriors 0-1 Basilisk. Except this is much, much worse. A streamer I poked at lately lost 9 vehicles.
is there any historical precedent for the teal/cyan armor of alpha legionnaries?
For the 8th time a 40k player has been banned from my local place for racism that would make /pol/ blush. for the 7th time out of those 8 its once again a Black Templar player.
Do you think geedubs is aware they have one sub faction that is so specifically the "not racist just dont want em 'ere" crowd? like what do you do when one of your in setting factions appeals to a specific group like that?
What Sentai actors do you want to see cross over to KR this time?
>>95958322Like, irl stuff? Otherwise the AL splinter group in Siege of Vraks used it
>>95958256Ultramarines follow the letter of the law if not the spirit.
>>95958347yeah irl stuff, it seems weirdly familiar, it's not blued armor, maybe it's some form of jewelry or pottery?
>>95958328Money doesn't smell. Anyways, you can also say that "they will not be missed" and absolutely nothing will happen
>>95958229The emperor's children predator is just standard rhino with 'free candy' painted on the hull
>>95958328you've convinced me to play black templars, anon
>>95958328Ultramarines may be the poster boy, but Black Templars are the cool guys that make people stay.
No other faction represents the Imperium, no 40k, like the Black Templars. Other chapters may piss and whine about it, but BT is arguably even more fanous than the Ultras, even if people dont know anything about them, just by pure visual.
>>95958238It's a cool looking gun, but I hate the obligatory backpacks and how hard it is to get gas mask heads.
Still trying to get my hands on picrel
>>95958328And everyone in the bus clapped
>>95958361>AL teal/cyanReminds me of pools
Pic unrelated
>>95958389he's also most likely making it up
there seems to be a weird push from reddit to make people hate black templars, from claiming they are all racists, to that the faction is just discount sisters of battle (while ignoring that the black templars and sisters are not even remotely the same
as with every local game store or group in the fucking world, 'that' guy almost always is a guard player, every fucking store has a story about a guard player sperging out and doing a heckin racism bud
>>95958419Mate we all know Black Templars and Imperial Guard are the racist player factions. Always has been always will be. Any time it gets brought up you get the "and everyone clapped guy" whos probably a /v/ secondary but anyone whos been going to tournaments for years has seen at least a couple of cases of "W-WHATS THE PROBLEM MY IG ARE JUST PAINTED LIKE THE LUFTWAFFE I'M SORRY I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA" or some shit.
>>95958433because EC are a joke army that should've never been released, even moreso than the other cult legions
>>95958328Literally never seen anyone banned from my lgs except one guy caught shoplifting, where the fuck do you lot play that people sperg out over politics in a game store? Is this a yank thing?
>>95958328literally EVERY Templars guy ive ever known has been either a huge prick asshole or a weird addict
cursed army imho
>>95958419I have never met a Black Templars player that wasn't at the absolute least racist some BNP now Reform voting xenophobe. There is no BT player who doesn't describe everything bad that happens to them as "the woke". They simply do not exist.
>>95958443Depends if its shit like some asshole in a 1488 shirt the store will ban them on sight because it only takes one picture that will spread like wildfire to ruin them.
>buttblasted furbabies still seething over flashgitz
40k
40k never changes
>>95958467You doing okay there schizo?
>>95958454Obviously that shit should get you banned, you do not let neonazis into any space or they will turn it into a nazi bar.
>Been playing DG since 3rd edition
>Love me lads, love me demons engines, love me little lords, simple as happy da-
>They are now meta waacshit
>That Guy buying 3000pts of greytide he will bin after an faq balances the new codex
I hate this shit. These are my dudes, fuck off with your wannabe esports mentality go play fucking league of legends or some shit.
>>95958015Why is it always le named heros everywhere. The second company of ultramirens is more war and in more places at the same time then physically possible.
What happend to creating chapters and worlds.
Cool astra miltarum regiments with there own look and feel.
fuck, bardap, even from gaunts ghosts. so much narrative potential and its always getting fuckt up.
>>95958481Exactly. I think the armchair guys on /tg/ don't understand how quickly that shit can kill a FLGS and in general if someones an actual neo nazi they are probably some white trash with poor hygeine and at that point just turn into an anime club if you want fat/skinnyfat foul smelling racists around you.
>>95958492I've been in the hobby since 4th edition, I live in a very conservative small city
I don't think I've seen an unironic nazi, the only time people get banned from stores and the club is for theft, which is kind of suprising because we're pretty close to the aryan nation stronghold a state over
and now that I think about it, the only people who routinely break our club's "absolutely no politics" rule are the types who feel the need to constantly talk about "current president is a fascist"
>>95958439Bait used to be believable
>>95958538>i-i-i-its never happened!Nigga the biggest spanish 40k event has had to ban a different guard or bt player for a nazi paintjob or nazi patches on a vest for multiple years in a row. If you are a secondary rp'ing as a 40k player actually know what you are talking about first or just say nothing to avoid looking like a fucking phony.
>>95958086Depends what we say when referring to chaos, The flood is pretty similar to chaos in some regards
>>95958555>no mention of ork players
>>95958529I think its more of a european/uk thing. Like how over there you get the "british bulldog" types trying to take over punk bars. Just a different culture.
That and i imagine those sundown town kind of places are where your ass would get beat for "playing with faggot dolls" if you touched any tabletop game.
>>95958562because that's a clearly fake story
>>95958569they're all fake stories. there is no great global waffen ss division taking over hobby spaces
Whoever said Drukhari Raiders were a pain in the ass to paint post-assembly was not kidding. I am now a convert to the church of subassemblies and sprue painting.
>>95958555Why is it always the spanish events that pull in neo nazis? like even more than america or german?
>>95957595were the cityfight guard a specific regiment?
>>95958597That was everyone ITT wasn't it?
>>95958604What's his army?
>>95958608Two or three, so probably most of the Drukhari players.
>>95958610Take a wild fuckin' guess my man.
It arrived. The third reprint with the weapons summary in it fortunately too
>>95958605Old style cadians
>>95958610Azov Regiment (Imperial Guard)
>>95958595Of course not, it's the LUFTWAFFLE nyooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
>>95958604Spain is one step removed from the Soviet Union so the counter-culture there is extreme right-wing
>>95958615It's a saying, you don't let a nazi into a bar or else they bring more nazis
I don't truck with nazis, illunois or otherwise, and think racism i stupid.
Papa Nurgle has room for all in his garden.
>>95958615it comes from a fake story about a dude seeing a punk get thrown out of a bar and asking the bartender why and the guy saying he saw a nazi patch on the punk's jacket and you have to throw them out or they'll bring in more nazis since they didn't get tossed out, until your bar is now the nazi bar
>>95958649Lads has Nurgle gone Woke???
>>95958657>fake storydon't frequent many punk bars do you lad?
>>95958649I am a pretty racist sisters player, but nothing is worse than being rude. If you can't learn your basic manners you shouldn't be out in public, most everyone thinks I am on their "side" just because I am nice to them I don't need to ruin that by sperging out.
>>95958677More like centerists of battle amirite
>>95958677>If you can't learn your basic manners you shouldn't be out in publicIt is funny to me how many people forget this part.
>>95958672>no this succinct story full of interactions that don't happen anywhere that just happens to align with a narrative being pushed by the guy who originally posted it is totally real
>>95958681>nono the social battle will be won at my local games store!it is just not the place to be picking sides
>>95958693You haven't interacted with strangers in a long time have you friend.
>>95958706It was your fault she died and your whole family knows it.
>>95958610that photo was allegedly a BT player who ran his list under the name "Pintor Austrio" and his teammate who played orks had luftwaffe iconography on his models
they managed to win several games because opposing teams forfeited
this happened once, and now every BT player is a weird fascist type according to the wonderful folks at sigmarxism
meanwhile, the truth about guardsmen is unfortunately true because in the long long ago before 3d printing, people would buy ww2 minis and convert them, and usually they were german minis so some people went into the deep end
>>95958733>d-don't believe it, its just my reddit boogeyman! its just happened before with photo proof but that doesn't mean its a thing!This has been a since since the 1990's. I don't know why people are defensive about this. Its like getting upset people say fat neckbeards play dwarves in WHFB.
>>95958746can you post the photos?
>>95958597I warned you, bro. I've done it twice myself and never ever want to again.
Finished my warboss. Tried to copy a bit from the original banner but in my colours. Gotta practice freehand more.
>Cabal of Chaos
>psyker-focused detachment
>the most meta pick for their obligatory daemon prince is Khorne
>>95958788your weapons textures didn't load, dude
Not every Black Templar player is a nazi.
But we can all agree every Black Templar player IS a cringe fuckboy that makes Dark Angels players look like giga chads.
>>95958644>>95958657Lmao westoidos are so mad on nazis. Are there any similar quotes about their opponents?
which muhreens are the LEAST cringe and have the most cool and chad players
>>95958820getting a tattoo is cringe already but getting one from your super favorite so nerdy XD hobby is actual brain damage
>>95958837Guys with lesser known successor chapters, like sons of orar or imperial castellans.
>>95958841Nobody cares anon
>>95958837May Allah forgive me but its the Imperial Fists. I don't like it but i cannot lie.
salamanders are the ultimate cringe queens
>meant to appeal to normies by being the nice guy chapter
>not even as popular as the ultrasmurfs, furries, team edward, space racists, and the chapter named after a gay poet who hang out in their ship named after a gay bar
>>95958788Gotta get a Makari too.
CRINGE SPACE MARINE CHAPTERS
>Ultramarines
>Black Templars
>Crimson Fists
>Dark Angels
>Space Wolves
>Salamanders
>Blood Angels
>Tomekeepers
>>95958837your own custom dudes
>>95958837Unironically Ultramarines.
>>95958864>Tomekeeperswhat the fuck did they ever do
>>95958837cool and chad players don't pick marines
>>95958837Your dudes provided they're not a mary sue traitor legion loyalist thing
>>95958871Quiet down /v/ermin
Orky
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>>95958862What the fuck, James?!
>>95958882>1,5 minute >already a triggered marinepiggylol, lmao even
>>95958889trying too hard
The most gigachad chapter is in fact the XIVth legion.
>Begin as unnamed legion form of the scottish, english and welsh warrior clans of Albia
>Famed for their tactics to hit just as the sun went down during the golden hour they were known as the Dusk Raiders
>Known for hitting hard and fast with merciless precision and expertise BUT the moment the enemy surrendered all safeties were on and they treated the surendering force with dignity as equals
>The few that were not killed at Istvann would go on to form the strongest arm of the Ultramarines and be part of the founding of the Grey Knights.
They are the actual based as fuck chapter and anyone who remembers the line "come on then, let us go together" knows exactly what i'm talking about.
>>95958885It is the glyph for "orky". It's closer to the hindu swastika(meaning peace) than the german one. Still pretty odd.
>>95958788>>95958862>>95958885*pokes with stick*
cmon...freak out
>>95958837Salamanders and fully owning and accepting them as the wholesome chungus marines who create mastercrafted wargear that they are.
>>95958895>"come on then, let us go together"s-strong men also cry...
>>95958895"come on then, let us go together"
I don't get it.
>>95958938>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-z8OftgWW8Actual peak.
Cool people play with the eccentric armies ( Orks, nids, tyranids, custodes), while ugly people play stuff that's uniform (Knights, marines, eldar)
>>95958957>cool>nids>custodeslmao
>>95958957>custodes>not uniformEven their dreadnoughts are just "Custodes, but big".
Evens I paint my swooping hawks
Odds I build a venom
>>95958895wasn't it just Garro who joined the Grey Knights? and afaik the blackshields weren't officially part of the ultramarines and were wiped out in the aftermath of the heresy
Castellans of the Rift are definitely one of Cawl's little funnies where he made a loyalist chapter from "not" traitor geneseed and said "trust me bro"
>>95958957ok wise guy whats tau, admech, votan?
>>95958979Garro and basically all of malcadors men were allowed to join the Grey Knights however fate decided otherwise and malcador let garro stay on terra , its in the buried dagger
>>95959020only one of those is a predator, you fucking retard
>>95959024the "tiger scale" only has one tiger on it.
>>95959020I still think the repulsor looks cool.
>>95959020>the one predator is a shameless knock off of the originalanyways, the only predator that counts is the ol "we put a turret on a rhino" 30k's shit is too far removed from what makes 40k an iconic and popular setting
ironically, the impulsor/gladiator is pretty god damn close, the repulsor isn't a good replacement for the landraider thoughbeit
>>95958904You owe Decalslopper an apology
>>95958979Garro didn't actually join he remained with Malcador on terra. It was the rest of the dusk raiders from the Eisenstein who became Grey Knight trainers at least because by that point their experience fighting demons and living was a rare thing.
>>95959020I get people love the Sicaran and Kratos for being new and different, but I still find their design pretty abysmal. FW really loves to make tanks where 90% of the weight is on the rear quarter.
>>95959065I don't like the retarded half exposed tracks on them.
Especially the Kratos tank, like those 2 slots just look fucking stupid and would be better covered.
>GW finally gives up the ghost and Cawl admits which primaris chapters are traitor geneseed.
Which loyalist revival of a founding legion do you go with?
>>95959083whichever one is the nightlords one, bet those guys have a lot of fun
>>95959083The lost legions
>>95959065I too liked phat ass
>>95959083there are no loyalist chapters with traitor geneseed
>>95959083Dusk Raiders or Sons of the Pheonix.
>>95959094>I always wondered why the tomekeepers arrange their french fries by order of size before eating them and slapped their thigh three times no more no less before talking.
>>95959020Where is the fellblade on the predator scale
>>95959083I'd go for my boys in the II legion, the [ฬทอฬจRฬดฬฟฬอฬฬEฬทออฬฬปฬฃฬDฬทฬออAฬถฬออฬฃCฬทอฬฬฬณฬขTฬถฬฬฬฬณEฬธฬออฬนDฬธฬฬฬ]ฬดฬออฬก
>>95959104Sang was a traitor
So how much longer till one of the lost primarchs is returned and turns out to be a woman and thats where female astartes come from in the next edition WHICH MEANS EVEN MORE SPACE MARINE KITS
>>95959065>90% of the weight is on the rear quarter.This is the ideal bodytype
>>95958820Our BT player has a swastika tattoo lmao
>>9595913940koomers disgust me
>>95959136Hopefully not long
>>95959153You don't belong here
You will try to redirect
>>95959136>muscle mommy astartesmuh dik
>gw will use this as an excuse to redo every fucking space marine unit. againpls god no.
>>95959065I think FW at the time was clearly inspired by the Israeli Merkava series of tanks when they designed those.
>>95959138your headcanon doesn't matter, faggot
>>95959104Guilliman was a traitor.
>>95959136When Sisters of Battle need a Primarch and new Primaris Sisters units to add to the army
>>95959153Always been a coomer site, you will not be missed
Oh brother this thread stinks
>>95959178>Saint Celestine but shes 12 foot tall and jackedGet mogged on Custodes slags.
>>95959173I don't keep up with thread lore
>>95959171So was The Lion.
>>95959171Agreed. Ultra sissys will cope and sneed but theres no way around it. He built his own empire and refused to assist his father, only arriving just after Horus and Big E killed each other.
Then he breaks all the legions down with his gayrule book (while keeping his own empire intact)
>>95959185Did we ever actually get female custodes models?
>>95959194>None space marines getting support for lore reasonsWhat do you think?
>>95959020Grav-blade when?
>>95959166Merkava is still a pretty normal looking tank.
>>95959211Yeah, I'm not saying the Merkava is weird, I'm just saying FW was inspired by its design and just made a more exaggerated version of it.
>>95959139We need more of this
>>95959211how do grav tanks deal with recoil?
I feel like the reason thereโs technically no canon loyalists with traitor geneseed is because James Workshop wants to make an eventual narrative by โofficiallyโ doing it for the first time. A big point of contention between Cawl and Gulliman is Cawl pestering him to let him do it, and a tension exists between the High Lords and Gulliman since Gulliman is going around the galaxy signing off on every instance of Codex non-compliance he comes across. Having Space Marines with no chance of a Primarch coming back for them would be a major benefit for the High Lords to have.
>>95958788that is unfuckingbelievably well painted
i refuse to believe that's your model just because i didn't think anyone in this thread had that much talent outside of krakenanon and 1ksonanon
wow
I once saw a fan concept of a female primarch from the lost legions and she was a big indian or polynesian woman with a bit of an aztec meets shiva vibe with an army of screeching harpy themed astartes that seemed neat.
>>95959104>let's just ignore the silver skulls, hawklords, libators, sons of the phoenix, minotaurs, carcharodons, castellans of the rift, covenant of fire, brazen skulls, and whatever the fuck is going on with the black vipers
>>95959252No, it's because there aren't, deal with it.
>A big point of contention between Cawl and Gulliman is Cawl pestering him to let him do ithe suggested it once in passing, got told no and he didn't do it, no pestering, no big point, no contention
>>95959254Thats purple anon, he churns out pretty nice stuff consistently
>>95959259Those only have traitor geneseed in fanfictions and headcanons.
Paint schemes are not stored in the geneseed.
>>95959271>No, it's because there aren'tThe current Bronze colored Minotaurs are loyalist Iron Warriors.
The guy who actually created them said so.
>>95959287No, they aren't
>The guy who actually created them said so.in his fanfiction, not in any canon material
>>95959281>look at these chapters who do not act anything at all like their primogenitor>in fact, they act eerily similar to something else>they even adorn themselves similarly, too>yeah this is finesmooth brain take from the administratum as usual
>>95959271>he suggested it once in passing, got told no and he didn't do it, no pestering, no big point, no contentionNah now I know youโre trolling
>>95959314>who do not act anything at all like their primogenitorsuccessors are not copies of their progenitors, they don't have to act identically, that's flanderisation
>they act eerily similar to something elsethere aren't that many ways to act, overlaps happen
>they even adorn themselves similarly, toocolor schemes are not stored in the geneseed
there are NO loyalist chapters made with traitor geneseed, anything saying otherwise is fanfiction
>>95959309Still canon, cope about it.
>>95959343>Still canonIf it were you wouldn't need to invoke fanfiction written on some forum, but the page of an actual publication.
>>95959254Thanks anon, happy you like him.
HH DA
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>>95959314Did we just confirm BT are actually DA successors?
>>95959361>If it were you wouldn't need to invoke fanfictionIt's not fanfiction if the creator says so.
Cry about it.
>>95959246thrusters in the back for the repulsor
Nobody told me Blanche did a Daemon Primarch Alpharius
>>95959281minotaurs are explicitly IW successors from the FW employee who made them
>>95959254>outside of krakenanon and 1ksonanonkinda missing the black legion dude
>>95959367>It's not fanfiction if the creator says so.Yes, it absolutely is fanfiction if it's not written on anything officially published.
Writing for GW once doesn't make everything you say suddenly canon.
>>95957666My dynasty doesn't have a name currently (because I suck at egyptian sounding names), but their backstory and force organization is basically written out.
Before their transcension, this particular dynasty of Necrontyr were comprised of Scholars, Scribes, Professors and Scientists. They sold their services to any other dynasty in need of their assistance, and researched the universe in hopes of finding a solution to their miserable lives. When the promise of immortality was given, they took the plunge to soulless automata without hesitation. In the grimdark future, they may have lost their souls but they have not lost their original purpose to discover and learn how their reality ticks. Do not take this to mean they are noble or heroic. Even before their transformation, they had a rumored reputation of commiting atrocious experiments against their own kind to understand their own biology. Even now in M42, the common necron warrior is seen as a mere commodity to trade for a potential Cryptek's assistance.
>>95959361it's on lexicanum, it's canon
>>95959366BT and DA act nothing alike, and for that matter the DAs rogue trader color was black, but so were the flesh tearers and iron hands
black is probably next to red and blue as the most popular colors space marine chapters have
anything from 30k does not predate the design of 2nd and 3rd edition black templars, originally the dark angels were native americans but GW decided they couldn't have two gay indian chapters and made them bretons in space but with tortured butthurt
>>95959405>it's on lexicanum, it's canonnot when it's without a source from an official publication, anyone can write bullshit on a fan wiki
>>95959419>the leading canon source on everything 40k isn't canon because it doesn't support my asshurtback to /v/ you go
>>95959419^pretty much this,
keep your fanfiction up your ass where it belongs.
God, reading on the lore of the Alpha Legion is so unbearably cringe
>>95959429take your shit fanfiction and wipe an idans ass with it.
Nobody will clap and like your shit writing style, not even your mother out of pitty.
>>95959429NTA but my warband, Serpentine Scourge, has a lexicanum entry despite the source being given not even clearly stating whether it's a warband or a dude's name. On their article with a list of warbands, it's marked as aligned with Chaos Undivided, without actually giving a source.
>People in this thread actually trying to gaslight /tg/ into thinking black templars arent the racists go to faction.
Are you people fucking high or did Space Marine 2 get an update and /v/ trannys are in this thread again?
>>95959429>>the leading canon sourcea wiki is not a source, the sources the wikis cite are the sources
there's no officially published source for your fanfiction about iron warriors, it's not canon
>>95959405>BT and DA act nothing alikeBlack armour, knight themed, wear a lot of cloth, keep secrets...
>DAs rogue trader color was blackAnd their HH colour. And BT are 2nd Founding.
>originally the dark angels were native americans but GW decided they couldn't have two gay indian chapters and made them bretons in space but with tortured butthurtWhat's Native American about these dudes? What you're referring to is an unnamed planet with a Native American culture, from which DA recruited some of their marines in the Deathwing short story.
>>95959442the comical part about the alpha legion is they dont have any lore.
It something GW would need to move up to. I think we rather have a word bareres refresh before they move to alpha legion.
I claim the alpha legion is the only legion that is neutral in the whole civil war.
They have still loyal "chapters" now on imperial side and chaos branches. I say that the blood ravens are loyal alpha legionnaires as are the raptors and many other chapters.
>>95959466Sounds accurate desu
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Two_unknown_legions
There seems to actually be a lot of stuff we do know about them.
>>95959466Alpha legions are just another chaos warband of demon worshippers.
They're not their memes, they're not their horus heresy selves, they're not le ebin 4d chess loyalists and they're not their primarchs, they're dead.
>>95959484>doesn't even mention the name malibron
>>95959492because that's a complete fanfic
>>95959496But it was an author's fanfiction!1!
What happened to the meme that Dark Angels were actually traitors
>>95959498They got lore and their primarch back. Turns out they are just assholes.
>space marine game gets an update
>increased amount of /v/edditor posting
what an amazing coincidence
>>95959498It's just an insult
>>95959498They were just pricks without needing chaos' involvement all along.
>>95959498It was always just that, a meme. Neve true.
>>95959497No it wasn't
Some forum faggots ran off with horus about to say malcador before getting force choked and made up a name based on that
>>95959504>everything I don't like is /v/!
>>95959514Everyone knows that Horus was about to say Malal.
>>95959498It was a thing until the boring heresy decided that all legions had traitors, making the dark angels not special in this, and their entire secret retarded.
>>95959504>/v/ boogeymanget a new script already
>>95959514The malibron fanfiction is way older than that moment.
>>95959524You're schizophrenic.
>crimson fists are a imperial fist successor chapter
Honestly thought they came from ultra marines. How does someone as boring as dorn get the sauciest successors?
>>95959405Bruh the lex entry for lamenters is like 30% fan fiction. Lex has never had any sort of vetting process or authentication system in place to ensure accuracy
>>95959487They are what the lore wants them to be. There is a lack of le ebin 4d chess chapters/warbands
If you want the generic warband you black legion/or any warband you make your self.
The alpha legion was is made as black ops operators in mind. Not corax stealth archer types but CIA/FSB/NSA/MI5 glow in dark nigger wet work guys.
They could for real stayed neutral and play or observe both sides. Would explain why choas has the Imperiums new toys. Like back when we got the landraiderยดs and chaos had the same and the predators and so forth.
Alpha legion has loyalist branches that stay loyal and give some gear to wards the main alpha legion. They get the more free thinking marines that would not fit any more in strict loyalist chapters. Alpha legion could be the biggest and strongest of legions simply by having it all and fallingf or the choas lies. Also something alpharion and omegle was warned about. That council of ayy lamos who told them.
I mean lets say cypher maybe being alpharion ar omegon and walk the line in between both worlds. Would more spice and drama in to whole soup.
Blodd ravens being of the alpha legion would also explain why they have so many psykers ( they are also used for communication, not just le wizzard) stuff you need behind enemy lines and why they are so "skilled" at recovering gear and equipment from other chapters.
>>95959556It's because when you make a chapter with an actual personality you choose the least interesting chapter to be descended from so their characterisation and reputation doesn't get tainted by the more prominent first founding shitters.
For example, the moment you say your dudes come from salamanders everyone is immediately going to think they're exactly like salamanders with their skin color, flame fetish, and being "wholesome good boys".
Instead you pick imperial fists because they're the blankest blandest slate.
The worst that happens with them is TTS cringe.
>>95959566>They are what the lore wants them to beThe lore wants them to be just another chaos warband of demon worshippers.
>>95959556The people I've met who have the most boring parents tend to be pretty wild themselves
>>95959579>>95959579until some at GW decides no and writes something new.
>>95959589which doesn't happen, because they're just chaoscucks
I dont know what happened to the crackle paint this time around, but I like quite how hard it "crackled". The dried pva glue also makes the inside acid or lava have a nice glisten too.
>>95959629heatwaves make the liquid element evaporate faster which pulls the dense particulate apart faster.
>>95959629looks really cool. remember, no mistakes, only happy accidents.
>>95959629The smoother surface under it the bigger the cracks. You can even hit your base with a coat of gloss varnish before you apply your paste for really aggressive cracking in targeted spots you just want to brush some matte varnish over the top to lock it all down
>Turns out they were imperial fist successors all along
>>95959674They are now part of the group of the best successor chapters.
>>95959635Ah makes sense.its been 30C + here lately so thats probably why.
>>95959652Yeah its pretty cool
>>95959655I dont do gloss varnish, I do a layer of pva glue spread out first before the paint. I tried a layer of ardcoat when i was first experimenting with the paint and it didnt look as cool.
3 years ago, I started collecting a Genestealer Cults army.
I never really liked the official GSC lore โ the whole idea of carefully preparing a planet just to be devoured later didnโt sit right with me. It just never appealed.
But Iโve always loved their themes: guerrilla warfare, fanatical devotion, and the struggle of the low against the high.
So I came up with my own lore for them.
In my version, they're just regular humans working in an industrialized Imperial system. Years of exposure to radiation and toxic chemicals have slowly turned them into mutants.
Their working conditions are unbearable, yet their labor brings enormous value to the Imperium. Aware of this, the people begin to demand a better life โ and eventually, they rise up in rebellion.
Thatโs their story.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to share any photos of my Genestealer Cult โ my old accounts with the pictures have been deleted, and the army itself no longer exists. You'll just have to take my word for it.
However, I can post images of my CSM and share the lore of the warband, if you're interested.
Are there any sources for the 9th edition codices? I want some of the lore from the AdCustodes one, among other stuff. I can't find it on the sharethread stuff, and the stuff in the OP is very out of date. Half the stuff in the 9th edition folder in the big torrent is just 8th edition with errata.
>>95958733>his teammate who played orks had luftwaffe iconography on his modelsThat's funny though
Goddamn people are so sensitive nowadays.
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