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>Balance Dataslate:
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>Community Links:
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https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
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>Pre 10th Torrent:
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>10th Edition Rules:
https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL
https://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A

>How to make wargames terrain:
https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV

>Secret Level Animation:
https://gofile.io/d/J7muqs

>>Previous thread:
>>95956099

>Thread Question:
What kind of unit would you like to see added to your army?

>>95959735 (OP)
>TQ
Everything they've removed over the decades.

>>95959735 (OP)
please....... james workshop..... hh mechanicum automatons for 40k please.......

The Primaris are so cool that instead of having the Mark IX armor they decided to skip straight to the Mark X, because counting in numerical order is for losers and heretics.

When creating fanfic OCs you should never be ashamed of committing to the bit. Maybe it's cringe, but it's sincere, and insincerity is worse than cringe.

>>95959778
what am i looking at

Is there anything quite as bad as the Sarlacc in 40k?

>>95959790
Probably

>TQ
CSM: Close-combat specialist Terminators

Has anyone here played boarding patrols here? Is it worth bothering with 3d printed terrain for it?

>>95959772
>MkI always depicted as thunder warriors
>despite all the models and art people point to being marines in MkI
>and the fact the leg armour was not standard to the armour, but common among marines
It's all so tiresome...

>TQ
A named tzaangor character and more non marine stuff until they decide to fucking redo rubrics and termiantors. The characters can stay the same.

>>95959812
>redo rubrics and terminators
actual dogshit taste

>>95959735 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>What kind of unit would you like to see added to your army?
Primaris Devastators and Tactical Maries with a Primaris Rhino, look I run 10 mans quads or bust not screwing around with 5 man crap. Need ways to move around fast and have Fierpower. Full Devastators and Tatcial Marines to supplement and add Heavy and asoult weapons. Hence my choices.

alright guys I need help - I'm nearly ready to start work on my custom Inquisitorial Gun-Cutter
>flyer
>roughly the size of a Thunderhawk
to some extent I'm venturing away from the only known example of its design (pic related) in some areas.. one thing I really want to use but cannot figure out is the nose.

obviously I'll have to scratch build it but I wouldn't even know where to start with a weird angled/rounded bit like that. if anyone has suggestions please let me know.

>>95959735 (OP)
>What kind of unit would you like to see added to your army?
Shieldmaiden/Valkyire inspired votann girls with jump packs

>>95959810
For my bucks party I threw a 2 day boarding party event.

I cannot stress how important the terrain is for boarding actions.

>>95959772
They're saving IX for a final firstborn refresh before being discontinued a couple years later.

>>95959790
Tyranids i would imagine
Maybe slaanesh’s realm

>>95959819
Sorry that I don’t care for votann

Post models

>>95959778
I would frick the big lady

When was Captain Nasiem released?
I don't remember seeingbthis guy anywhere.

>>95959829
Just cut the tip off so it has the same profile as the Thunderhawk.

>>95959886
Im having a bit of trouble deciding what angle I want the main light source to hit my model's armor. I cant decide between straight on (Left) and from the side where the gun is gonna be/face will be looking(right)

What do you guys think would look better?

>>95959909
It's a kitbash.

>>95959853
Since you've played it extensively, was it fun? I have a friend that can 3d print me terrain and I've come across this, the set includes pretty much everything you need and its main feature seems to be simplicity. Do you have GW's terrain or a 3rd party?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tinkerjunkie/space-wreck-3d-printable-boarding-actions-terrain-set
I need to ask at my LGS if people would be interested in it for it to work.
>>95959886
I need to paint the crew of my Goliaths and do some corrections. I wonder if I can do it by the vehicle collage.

>>95959912
If the face is pointing right you should go with right

So….do the Tau still only have two notable commanders (Farsight and Shadowsun)?

>>95959735 (OP)
>TQ
A larger melta weapon for sisters, put it on a walker or tank I don't care just let it have strength higher than 10.

>>95959778
I don't mind fanfic stuff, I don't care for but am not upset by other people's shitty spin offs. I do think OCs that completely disrespect the source material are pretty disgusting, like picrel. Custodes being afraid of space or not from Terra is blatantly retarded and does that this person isn't actually a 40k fan, which means they are either actively too stupid to learn about a world when making a character in it or trying to engineer something to be triggering to the reader. The tumblr art style and African Warrioress themes imply the latter. Either way, both are cringe.

>>95959735 (OP)
>TQ
I would like to see a plastic Tantalus come back for one. Or fucking Vect. Dark Eldar are so beaten down just praying to get back a scrap of what they once had in their roster that an entirely new unit seems beyond even hoping for. We're mostly just hoping we don't end up with even less come Codex time.

>>95959925
wrong pic

>>95959925
It is very fun, but you need to play into the mechanics of the game mode.

We had a mix of 3rd party and GW terrain. The 3rd party would have been better -if- we had 'copied' the features of the GW interactive terrain (Turrets, computer nodes etc) that came in each kill team set. The missions for each boarding actions book from 9th (annd updated for 10th) use these extensively.

>>95959926
i just kind of have the feeling that it wont really look visible from that side angle.

>>95959886
7 more crons to add to the list.

>>95959912
Should always be at 45 degrees

>>95959886
No.

Blessed is the wallet too small for video games.

>>95960004
Nta but for a second I thought people were still talking about temperature affecting texture paste and was very confused as to how someone could comfortably hobby at 45c or 45f

they finally did it...

>>95960066
What does that have to do with warhammer 40,000, a tabletop miniatures game

>>95960085
James Space wants you to spend your hard earned cash on plastic

>>95959931
Lorewise or rulewise?

>>95960085
less money for virtual toys means more money for actual toys

Began painting some swooping hawks today

swooping hawks? my like drooping cocks

>>95960088
>>95960092
If I didn't have 60$ available to spend on video games where would I get 60$ to spend on tabletop games.

>>95960115
H-hot

>No Drop Pod Leaks
>Implies the Rules are Utterly Shit

>>95960079
Ogryn army box for 11th edition, it came to me in a dream.

>>95960161
>removed the weapon
I guarantee it either is still only taking 10 dudes, which is useless, or has been cut down to 7 which means it competes with the impulsor which has firing deck, a 5+, storm bolter, and can do actions

>>95959801
>CSM: Close-combat specialist Terminators
Loser.

>>95960179
Yeah pretty much cant even token shoot and you still bound by some shity 9" rules.

Pretty much all the cool stuf that made marine stand out get fuckt over and removed.

>hurr durr drop shock troops
nee nee neee not any more. You just walk.

space marine chapters who follow the geneva book of suggestions are the best
40k needs more marines malevolent, libators, iron hands, firehawks, etc
in fact a lot of the loyalists from the badab era are goated for going full PURGE on tax evading nancies

>>95959735 (OP)
>TQ
Fucking anything at this point, but personally I'd love another battleline unit of Hearthkyn with shields and shotguns/axes.

Hey, /40kg/. I need to replace all of my GW paint. Which is better, Army Painter or Vallejo model/game color?
Who sells the latter online in the US?

Guys Guilly is conspiring with eldar in direct contradiction of the Emperors will. I think he needs to be sanctioned and brought to trial.

>>95959954
Do you have a pic of the statue from the front?

>>95960294
Cower vallejo I've heard shaky reviews on but I like the fanatic stuff ive tried

>>95960329
what eldar pussy does to a mfer

>>95960294
There isn't a single answer I'm afraid. I use Vallejo Game Color and I like it for the most part but certain ones are shit to work with, the whites and yellows aka the usual suspects.
>>95960337
I don't have a clear shot but it's the Honored Imperium Terrain Set, really an old thing.

just need to clean my desk off

>>95959735 (OP)
Bros just got my first ever 40k models 2nd hand. Does anyone have any advice for building out a guard army?

>>95960329
Who's gonna pull THAT one off?
Though it would be a nice payoff to Lion awakening, Imperium Secundus Round 2.

>>95960472
Playing a tank army is the only way to stay sane.
More Dorns
more Russes

>>95959735 (OP)
For Orks a unit of bomb squigs, for Tyranids a crab that's a troop transport (rhino equivalent), and for Imperial Agents (and also Chaos) the ability to field IG units like Genestealers brood bros do.

>>95960294
Airbrush or regular?

Okay but we can all agree Eldar and Necrons are GWs actual favorite factions when they aren't just churning out space marines to pay the bills, right?

>>95960482
Would you say 2 dorns and 3 russes is enough? All of these Infantry were weirdly modeled with lasguns only so if I made special weapons for each squad I could have up to 80 infantry. Second question is 80 Infantry enough?

Want to start a BT army because it makes reddit mad. What's a decent 1k list to start with?

>>95959886
I'm trying to get back into it after a slump. Had to start a new job and my last grandma's passed, so I haven't had much time for creative pursuits.

I've played Kill Team once every other week, so that's nice.

>>95960691
Sword bretherin

>>95959886
My first knight. I did her grieving over a lost companion.

I've had this kit since pre covid but it's been sat on my shelf untouched, even when I started collecting again a few months back. The Rossposter made me wanna do it.

>>95960711
The blue armor looks really good on it.

>>95960294
No single paint brand is the best and you'll need to assess paints on an individual basis. As a whole Vallejo metallics are really good while AP washes and 2.0 speedpaints are good.

>>95960472

>>95959886
9 boats list is actually looking quite promising

>>95959886
orks should be the nazi faction imo

>>95960763
But can Orks be raped?

>>95960711
Knight is cool, but the basing looks low key like cat litter. Sorry for your loss m8

>>95960773
yeah, of course

>>95960763
Killa kans should wear baggy jeans and cool sneakers

>>95959886
Some guardians for my craftworld

>>95960794
Very nice yellow anon, mind sharing how you do it?

>>95960802
Thank you! Literally just standard averland>cassandora shade>yriel yellow. Honestly surprised how easy it was to do despite all the hatred of painting yellow.

>>95960763
They were only followin' Boss's Orders
Omand of course they are fashioned after Huge-o Boss

>>95960794
Nta but looking at this panel here I'd guess it's iyanden over bone followed by flash gitz highlight

>>95960818
Nah sir, just this>>95960815

Cassandora is really a good shade, gives a lovely sunset color to everything

>>95960278
Damn anon, that's a good suggestion.
I wouldn't mind Votann getting a proper medic. Or a Ironkin Dreadnought maybe.

>>95959886
>>95959912
My brushes and paints were feeling super cooperative, maybe the fan that was on was giving them some new helpful painting properties, but that combined with a burst of motivation meant I was able to sit down and finish up this guy. I quite love how he turned out. I was a little worried the hands wouldnt glue properly after the first attempt where they were kind of sliding off, but after a bit of finnagling they're holding pretty tightly.

Only 2 more and i finally finish this kill team. I dont even wanna think how long its been, but its definitely been enjoyable.

>>95959886

>>95960823
>Damn anon, that's a good suggestion.
Big thanks. At the state the army is in right now in regards to units literally anything is a welcome addition.

James Workshop please refresh the Ultramarine Honor Guard kit.

>>95960932

>>95960955
James can you sell me those without Calgar attached

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95960871
all ironkyn should be an army build

>>95960979

Would you rather play the game with

>nicely painted miniatures on clear bases on a cool mat
or
>bare minimum tournament standard miniatures with standard bases on a mismatched mat

>>95959886

>>95961036
Nicely painted models with standard bases on a gaming table(not mat) that doesn't have to match the bases.

>>95961036
>clear bases
-10 VP

>>95961036
I wouldn't do either of those things they're both shit for different reasons and one isn't any better than the other

>>95961002
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>95961042
I feel like I've seen you sharing these guys for absolute ages but have never seen you post anything new for them

This galaxy upon which so many have been broken is vast and calls for largeness of heart but it is also ultimately empty.

>>95961002
Remember that time you accidentally shared deldar twink art kek

>>95961130
Is this a bot post? It's so worthless I can't see any reasoning for a human to post that

In lore, would a Tau hunter cadre stand any realistic chance against a chapter of Astartes?

>>95961139
no, the tau killed a chapter master and literally no one cares
just another day in the imperium

What was his problem?

>>95961178
He doesn't know how to communicate.

>>95961138
I wonder how many of us here are real. Some very stupid botlike posts recently. Maybe I'm just being paranoid and the reason behind the recent lower thread quality is because summer.

>>95961178
nothing, he was right.

>>95960473
What a nice little package. Sang the dead mutant psyker takes the bame and Guilly and Lion are the only Primarchs left alive.

>>95961139
>look up the numbers
>50-100 Tau vs 1000 Space Marines
>full chapter deployment would also mean the Space Marines would have all the vehicles, special equipments, and orbital support too
Unless there’s stories and lore I’m unaware of where singular Tau Cadre’s doing crazy shit I’d say it’s unlikely.

>>95961178
When he was a child his father was murdered by his uncle and he had to bury his fathers skull himself, please understand.

>>95961190
It definitely feels like after the brief outage that a lot of the posts on this site don't come across as... I dunno, legitimate?

>>95961190
IMO the lower quality is probably just summer.
Or whoever keeps sliding every few threads into retard slapfights

>>95961161
The lore says that the Imperium cared a lot about that. Cared plenty.

>>95959886
I just finished my wave serpent

>>95961202
>tfw you realize the Imperiums fixation on skulls is not some veneration of human perfection or superiority but secretly big E'd tribute to his dad.
Dude im a fuarking genius

>>95961236
For the collage? Very cool.

>>95961243
Collage?

>>95961246
Yeah the general has started a monthly painting project thing. This month was vehicles. There is gonna be a vote for next months theme this weekend.

>>95961258
Oh cool.

>>95961190
I feel like I've definitely seen more posts where it's just an image and then a random quote, or lexicanum entry. It's one thing when it's smut, but the idea of posting random codex art with a non sequitur quote is so strange to me that I can't see it being a person responsible

I didn't get my Emperor's Children finished before the nerf :(

>>95959735 (OP)
Bikers, no question with sonic weapons. And Doomrider to lead them. Also I would like unique jumppack troops but failing that let me take Raptors. I just want a super insanely fast EC army

you know, its a bit odd that the thousand sons didnt even get an additional pity hero with their release. They're supposedly super easy to make, and I dont see why they wouldnt give that to ksons. Makes me think maybe its a cawdor situation where the new character would show how poorly proportioned the old minis are. So until the ksons marines get re-done, the faction will continue to get experimental things like the bird bots.

>>95959886
Gonna finish this tonight

>>95961237
Why did Mihoyo do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rmnSXzICvM

>>95961359
Looks like Pilot from farscape

>>95961359
Cute

>>95961236
nice, here's my best painted serpent

Reject cat girls.
Awoo dog girls.

>>95961405
You're a funny guy, Anon.
Are you the guy who painted models for his pets' terrarium? Beetles or something?

>>95961285
Make sure you post it Monday as well, I know the anon organizing the collage mentioned Monday being the last day for submissions and that he'd do an anchor post for any submissions.

>>95961310
>faction of people obsessed with colours, sounds, tastes, smells and feelings
>uhhhh just give her black straight hair and light makeup

>>95961310
>>95961323
You don't have any emperors children, nobody plays them

>>95961492
I do too have Emperor's Children! Some of them are even painted!

Who would win in a sword fight a Cerastus Castigator or an Eldar Titan?

>>95961484
You'd have to be some reddit tranny to think this looks better.

>>95961494
Prove it.

>>95961518
>colour bad
>for the chapter obsessed with sensation
You must be a riot at parties

>>95961514
Why don't you roll some dice and find out

>>95961310
They got nerfed?

>>95961036
>clear bases
Do people actually do this? The fun of painting is putting your little dudes in a setting

>>95961405
>playing with his army men in the sandbox
Based and whimsypilled.

>>95961533
Who are you quoting anon?

>>95961414
Those ears are way too short to read as a dog's, that just looks like everyone else's catgirl conversions and all the paint in the world couldn't change that

>>95959748
This. Even if they didn't keep any in stock and just made them as they were ordered, I'd be happy. There are so many cool models from over the years that aren't available anymore and that sucks.

>>95961557
Alright sure anon, I'll bite your bait. What is reddit/tranny about that image and why is it worse than something that doesnt resemble EC in any way in its palette. Please explain in detail without buzzwords, or lashing out at others

>>95959748
>>95961567
You retards know the reason they retire moulds is either due to them not selling, or due to the mould degrading to a point where they would need to retool it which costs the same as a brand new mould. This isn't magic Christmas land where Santa can have his little elves make the same wooden train for hundreds of years using their Christmas magic

What factions got silently squatted overtime? The biggest one that hurts is crimson slaughter for me.

>>95961595
that's not squatting, they were never a bespoke army

>>95961573
It is less refined overall, and tonally inconsistent with 40k despite being "more colorful". It is lgbt rainbow puke with the dyke hair to match. EC should be colorful like an oil slick is colorful not anime punk shit.

>>95961560
Point to me to dog ear heads and I'll get them immediately. Can't find any and whenever I ask about it, everyone tells me to just use cat ear heads. At least the paws and tail are from a canine model.

>>95961527
boom bich

>>95961609
abysmal reading choices, you have.

>>95961355
It did not stop them with the grey knights

>>95961625
I liked the first volume, it was cute. Haven't read the second yet.

>>95961590
>get told for decades that marines carry all other armies with their sales
>marines get axes in favour of a whole new lineup
Guess they weren't selling so well after all...
>use the same rhino sprues for a ton of different vehicles since 3e and are still producing them
>brought back a bunch of old WHFB plastics in the same kits
Either those moulds aren't getting enough wear or they just keep updating them to be the same forever and ever.

>>95961595
Who stopps you from painting your csm as crimson slaughter?

>>95961590
Then maybe GW should outsource their production to the North Pole. Santa has delivered everything I've ever asked for without fail for my entire life.

On a more serious note: You're a giant faggot for defending a multi-billion dollar multi-national corporation.

>>95961010
That's entirely possible even right now. A guy yesterday was working on an ironkin army actually - iirc he said he was doing home recasts of the heads with greenstuff. Pic related.

>>95961605
95961605
>it should match my headcanon!
>bright colours don't belong in 40k
>all the space marine chapters, ork clans, chaos legions, tau septs, eldar craftworlds, deldar cabals don't count as colourful!
Retard opinion discarded, but by all means continue getting mad every time you see more than two colours put next to each other

>>95961639
I’d be playing with playing black legion in word bearer colors at that point

Still working on this guy for the collage but wachu think so far?

>>95961718
now now anon, no need to lash out

>>95961608
>whenever I ask about it, everyone tells me to just use cat ear heads
There's unironically nothing you're going to be able to do to make them look like dog ears unless you individually model floppy ears or some shit. I promise you that you are going to have to correct every single person who sees them. No-one will look at that and see a dog girl

>>95961609
>no timestamps
Yawn

>95961725
utter fucking slop
you make me embarrassed to own knight models

>>95961654
yeah but there isn't like an ironkyn character yet, like imagine an iron kyn cryptek as a replacement for their psyker

Can't decide between Emperors Spears and Sons of Orar.

Please decide for me

>>95961749
Why are you so nasty

Any Black Templar guys here? I’ve been thinking of starting a space marines army as a secondary and Black Templars seem really cool. Any tips for starting an army? Is the combat patrol good to go?
Also how’s their secondary material? Any good books?

>>95961640
>On a more serious note: You're a giant faggot for defending a multi-billion dollar multi-national corporation.
If I'm a faggot for living in reality and understanding that a mould breaks down, and a company needs to make money off something to produce it rather than live my life steaming that the world isn't my idealized fantasy, then I'm fine being a faggot

>>95961755
Bucket helmets are starting to make me hate templars

>>95961725
>>95961728
Of course it was you whining that something was for trannys

>>95961766
I dig em but I can see why you wouldn’t, not everyone wants to be discount grey knights. Idk I love the goofy helmets and awful haircuts, it’s so charming

>>95961770
Its not me you idiot

>>95961723
why not run it out the World Eaters Codex?

>>95961755
Not a BT guy, but they announced the Codex is coming soon and two new characters. They’ll refresh the Combat Patrol for 10th and will likely have at least one of the new characters in it, I’d wait for that.

>>95961754
Why don't you ever improve, or learn from your mistakes. Do you have a learning disability? You've claimed you don't have a degenerative disorder so it's clearly something

>>95961755
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2WGE1L6WKs

>>95961783
Ah okay, I’m not sure why but I was under the impression they already got a refresh/combat patrol. I’ll keep that in mind, thank you
>>95961787
Thanks dude, art style might take some getting used to but it’s not like there’s many 40k movies

>>95961786
Can I just put some plastic glue on it?

We frigpostan, we frenspostan

>>95961609
Fren do you have a favorite model you've painted or a model you're particularly proud of? Plenty of room on the fridge

>>95961725
>>95961518
I'm resetting you again, this is your last chance.

>>95961770
You guys really cling to insults it wasn't that serious bwo I called your mediocre oc gay, is that an autist thing or a tranny thing?

>>95961755
There's a pretty good BT painter here that pops in from time to time. I don't know if he plays though, I've just seen him talking about painting

>>95961782
With the sorcerers?

>>95961805
Thats not me you prick!!!!

>>95961812
Fyreslayer anon!

>>95961800
Yes. We have told you dozens and dozens of times and multiple methods on how to fix it, but every time you just throw a fit and claim everyone's picking on you

>>95961821
Ive never claimed that, but I will try to fix it before Monday

>>95961812
Prove to me that it isn't you, because you're here every time it happens, posting within an hour of any political meltdown.

>>95961831
How!?!?! I post a screenshot and Im called a Mobile poster or “inspect element”

>>95961807
Read the above post, apply to post below. Replace the word gay with boring
>>95961310

>>95961755
Somewhat related to this, but the dark angels and black templars both seem to be going for this medieval knight aesthetic and seem kind of redundant at first glance. What’s the difference between them thematically?

>>95961848
dark angels are arthurian knights
black templars are the knights templar and the teutonic order

>>95961848
Arthurian knights (Dark Angels) and Templar Crusaders (BTs obviously). It looks redundant at first but if you know a little history, well it's still somewhat redundant but they're pretty easy to tell the difference between.

>>95961837
Figure it out. Not my problem, and you haven't really done anything to warrant my trust or any amount of effort on my part. Your ban expires Saturday, December 27, 2025. I will never give you a chance again if you fuck this up, and will have proven exactly what I thought you were going to do from the get go. If you can somehow prove to me that it was someone else then I'll roll you back to the last ban expiry of December 25th

>>95961842
Yeah see you call it boring and i feel no need to start schizoing out about thread personalities and political meltdowns, who cares?

>>95961848
Did someone say space knights?

>>95961851
>>95961854
I see, thank you. I was stuck between them (mainly because I like knights and I like green) but the dark angels just seemed kinda gay with how they’d show up and massacre everyone to protect their secrets or whatever. Being secretive and mysterious is a cool gimmick but they almost seem like more of a burden to the imperium than a help with how they just show up at random to push their own agenda. With the BTs, you could make the argument that they’re doing the most for the imperium out of anyone, so that makes a little cooler for me
>>95961863
Aw fuck dude didn’t they slaughter a bunch of SoB for their blood or something?

>>95961857
Yea Ok so you just hate me and won’t forgive me ever. W/e idc anymore

>>95961861
Apply more effort

>>95961871
You deserve the hatred of the entire thread, you've worked hard to earn it!

>>95961874
Bs, you’re overly sensitive

>>95961880
>coming from the redditor crying because he's not allowed in thread collages
lmao

>>95961884
So now I am not allowed on the collage?

>>95961888
>now

What is the QRD of this knight poster? If you people are going to blame all my insensitive comments on this guy I should know why.

>>95961893
See!?!?!

>>95961871
If thats your takeaway then you really are a petty child. I've given you 11 opportunities. Eleven times you have made me look like a dumb fuck for trusting that you could behave and telling the thread that I think you should be given a chance. The whole reason I put a 6 month limit was to give you a chance to stop shitposting, and give the thread enough time to forget about your shitposting. I wanted you to be able to post your shit without the thread going nuclear. But you've shown the thread that the reason it goes nuclear over your shit because you are constantly causing problems, constantly dragging political shit where it does not belong, and then constantly pretending like everyone's bullying you for no reason which is what you're doing fucking here, right now. Fuck off with this victim complex bullshit, it's juvenile and tiresome

>>95961893
he's a redditor who came over after getting banned, bragged about buying prepainted models then showed his own paintjobs off and they were all badly drybrushed and covered in several decalsheets each
when people told him they looked like shit he started spamming down threads with literal hundreds of posts screaming TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY and insisting every comment shitting on him was a single nomodels tourist

>>95961906
Its not me!!!!

>>95961906
This was a very discord mod thing to write. You are not the /40kg/ parent, this collage thing sounds gay as fuck.

>>95961908
Why lie honestly?!

>>95961912
The post of a seething fridgeless freak

This is really fucking gay, can you not take this elsewhere?

>>95961893
>>95961903
>>95961910
>>95961912

The fridgeanon seems pretty cheesed at you right now I'd stop that if you have any wish to ever post here unharassed

>>95961913
Where's the lie

>>95961916
>the fridge of politically correct anons
you can't even imagine someone wouldn't care about your opinion, fucking ego the size of the sun

The thread schizo and the decalfag are apparently gay for each other

So….Knights. Why are they HOPELESSLY uncompetitive in the game rules? What’s the purpose of this design choice? Are Knights players supposed to not want to win, ie, do a public service for other players to win against in exchange for having big cool models?

>>95961920
>he thinks the issue is political correctness and not being an insufferable faggot
>thinks everybody responding to him is the same person
lmao
>>95961922
decalfag IS the thread schizo

Here comes the decalfag meltdown that happens every time he gets slapped on the wrist by the fridgeposter.

Look the decalfag is a solid painter/contributor but he constantly placates the schizo and he should be condemned for it

>>95961920
There's plenty of people on that fridge who says slurs and racist shit. And all sorts of ignorant stuff. The reason you aren't on it is that you are all of those things but also annoying about it

>>95961935
You’re not even responding to me retard

>>95961930
>Look the decalfag is a solid painter
No he isn't
He can't even fill gaps or clean mouldlines
He uses 60000 decals per model but still refuses to seal them in so the edges aren't showing
He drybrushes everything poorly then goes "no it's supposed to look like it's glowing" (it just looks like the sloppy drybrushing that it is)

>>95961935
Someone who types shit like >>95961906 deserves to be annoyed at the very least. Discord mods are less pretentious what the fuck was that lmao.

>>95961949
>not wanting the faggot to spam 250+ posts almost every single thread is pretentious
(you) tried decalmutant

>>95961923
Knights are currently insanely overpowered so I dunno what you're talking about.

>>95961946
There's no point in responding to his falseflags he's just going to keep spinning his tires until he goes to bed

>>95961954
Nta but he’s right

>>95959931
Shas'o'kais and Or'es'ka

>>95961954
When it's worded like that yes, do you actually think you have any influence over anyone here? Are people really so pathetic to listen to someone on a horse as high as yours?

They're so caught up in their pointless arugment that nobody will notice it was me. I lost the other two astartes legions.

>>95961949
>it's pretentious because he told someone to stop being retarded
>it's pretentious because he let's everyone participate except for those who behave like a retard
Do you know what pretentious means

>>95961968
>everybody I don't like is the same person

>>95961605
Ah, there it is. Culture warriors like you are such insufferable faggots. The point of noise marines is to be garish and obnoxious and over the top, making it le edgy goth girl is the reddit choice. You are an irony-poisoned zoomer

>>95961975
You can do it but I cant?

I am ignoring the haters, what is next months collage about?

There’s like 4-5 of us here arguing with each other, shouldn’t we all be friends?

>>95961968
>>95961969
You really should wait longer between your posts if you're going to phonepost. Pressing send at the same time isn't really believable

>>95961985
Be less obvious with your falseflagging, thirdparty /v/ermin faggot

I will be playing a csm army composed entirely of hh models.

>>95961983
Not if you're going to intentionally annoy the people you're trying to be friends with. I'm not gonna hang out with some kid at the beach when he's kicking sand at me

>>95961983
Not if they are failed men pussies who start pissing and moaning if you kick a little sand at them

>>95961979
It'd be much easier to ignore them if you stopped coming here. It doesn't seem like you're particularly good at ignoring jabs at you

>>95961997
>everyone really should stop picking on me
>but I should still be able to pick on them obviously
Why

>>95961987
Have fun.

>>95962002
jesus you troons are autistic, i mean i should have expected it here but fuck me

>FNTMA

Can we just get some 40k coomer material?

I miss land speeders

>>95962021
Right away queen, you should've just asked earlier

>>95962021
>>95962035
Posting Tonka Tau Tits

>>95962021
>>95962038

>>95962021
>>95962042

>>95961979
Don't worry about it, as far as you should be concerned it's just like the current one in the sense that you aren't welcome

>>95962050
>>95962042
>>95962038
>>95962035
Please stop I am trying no nut June

>>95962021

>>95962057
Why am I not welcome?

>>95962061
You're lucky I'm out of Tonka TT

>>95962068
The same reason you're not welcome on the fridge. You're annoying and people don't like you here

Would a Redemptor Dread and Calgar be too much for a 1k game?

>>95962082
Named character in 1k is pretty sweaty and gay. Redemptor is pushing it but probably alright if it's just the one at 1000pts

>>95962080
So can I put my Black Panther Knight on the collage or not?

>>95962091
I’be been painting ultramarines and collecting the ones i think look cool for about 3 months and now im at about 1300 points. Im just trying to figure out the most ideal way to play them at 1k to help me learn the game and not get my ass kicked in 2 turns.

>playing against salamanders soon
>tfw opponent is fielding an all infantry army

Should be interesting

>>95962101
Don't worry about building an army for 1000pts. You're better off buying the things you want to run at 2k and just using 1k for learning games. 1k is pretty unbalanced so you could spend ages fussing over making them fair against one list, just to have them wafflestomp another list or get shot off the board by that list turn 2

Going with older bro to pick out a combat patrol tomorrow and he’s leaning towards ultramarines gdi…

>>95962098
How many times do you need to be told to fuck off today before you actually fuck off.

>>95962118
Why are you so hateful?

>>95962116
>Going with older bro
You have to be 18 to post here and honestly it explains a lot knowing you arent

>>95962116
lol. we don’t have a fucking combat patrol box in store anymore. You have to pay $180 for the starter set and you’re stuck with a bunch of nids. Oh yeah and the space marine combat patrol is fucking garbage. I regret it.

>>95962121
I am over 30 lol

>>95962120
You've been told by multiple people, multiple times today why people don't care for your company. You aren't welcome here clearly, so you very obviously also aren't welcome to participate in the community activities

>>95962127
But what if I stay?

>>95962125
Why do you throw tantrums like a middle schooler then? Just mentally weak?

>>95962131
Yea

>>95962129
Then you'll be staying in a place where you aren't liked or welcome. You loitering here continuing to be a nuisance changes nothing with the collages.

>>95962133
Ok

In regards to CSMs. Is it that they’re completely defined by their devotion to Chaos, or is it more they are servants of the Gods but they’re also STILL Astartes? Ie, a Noise Marine may be freaks, but they can still employ iron discipline when they need to. Plague Marines are depressive, weary fucks but they can move like lightening in battle in order to win for the glory of Nurgle. Etc.

My lgs still has the recently retired Grey Knights combat patrol in stock. If i want to start an army would i be wise to get it while I can and Crowe? I’ve been put off by the old sized models but i dont know if i can wait for a refresh.

>>95962139
their "gifts" will often override things
plague marines are still faster than normal humans but they're not almost untrackably quick like un-cursed marines

I wanna paint a Cerastus Knight Lancer but the shield is so silly

>>95962139
The latter, but they're corrupted to the point that their newfound mutations enhance them in some way. For example CSM raptors are basically bird people.

If a hellblaster dies in melee, can it still shoot back?

>>95962143
>i dont know if i can wait for a refresh.
I remember a dude at my lgs saying this a few months before dg plastics released. He went in deep and bought all the resin shit, all the forgeworld upgrades, the named nurgle daemon prince and GUO, multiple resin dreadnoughts, and enough csm to fill out the rest of 3kpts. I don't think we ever saw him again after the plastics dropped, and he hasn't been online on Facebook since then but sure bro, grab as many grey knights as you want, I'm sure you'll be fine

>>95962162
>For the Chapter!: Each time a model in this unit is destroyed, roll one D6: on a 3+, do not remove it from play. The destroyed model can shoot after the attacking model’s unit has finished making its attacks, and is then removed from play. When resolving these attacks, any Hazardous tests taken for that attack are automatically passed.
They word it specifically either for melee or shooting, in this phrasing they mean it to apply for both.

>>95962157
Put a different shield on it genius

>>95962171
Like what? It’d have to be big…

>>95962167
Jesus christ i would of jumped off my balcony.

>>95962168
I just assumed that if it died in engagement range they could only fire their pistols before being taken off the table

>>95962139
They can be anywhere on the spectrum, but generally any alterations they accept are going to be enhancements, maybe with a drawback like mental instability but who cares they're already actively fucking with Chaos. For plague marines I wouldn't say they can move like lightning especially not for an Astartes, but they don't care because why dodge or be concerned with hitting first when you can just eat the hit and when your own punch lands it's going to wreck. The setting fully supports CSM being as traditional to their old ways as you like, or not, you have a lot of freedom of choice. Honestly one of my favorite things is members of CSM warbands being veterans of the Great Crusade, still seething about it and still kicking ass.

Dead thread, dead game

Fun thread.

Lost my wallet today, fun stuff.

>>95962091
You should see the state of some sweats at my LGS

Oh great oracles, please read the bones, bird signs, tarot cards, or cryptic images from your dreams to let me know what I should do. I have some khorne demons. I like their aesthetic more so than the other gods. Should I work towards a chaos demon army with be'lakor or just pivot into world eaters with demons?

>Start new army at 1k
>Play with them twice
>Drop them and go back to Guard
I'd kill myself if I didn't love those silly little men and the 300 dice I gotta roll in one shooting phase

Im bringing retaliation cadre with combat patrol to 1k, have fun custards and dread spam wolves getting sniped from a corner

why is this hobby so fuckin expensive bros
i have the income for it but i still can't help but feel a bit sore when games workshop wants close to a hundred dollars for a fucking tank

>>95962286
I'm feeling it too man.
I have income as well and can afford it, but it has kind of become a thing of "should I really do it even if I can afford it?"
Granted I might be a hypocrite because I buy 'boutique' hand cast third party resin that is GW tier priced but I justify it because it is run by one guy or a small team of guys. In other words they're literally small companies so I have to be understanding.

good news imperial citizen, the angels vermillion, carcharadons, marines malevolent, and the iron hands are all coming to your planet to fight the genestealer cult that sprung up on your planet!

>>95962281
thats why you sim online first to see if you get the feel for the army

>>95962308
>thats why you sim online first
Not the anon you're replying to but I've found that Tabletop Simulator always makes me frustrated with any army I give a shot, and I personally blame the waacfaggery of TTS players and the high probability of playing with the most insufferable of insufferable rejects among rejects in this niche hobby. Had like 2 encounters with those types.

>>95959790
First time I notice this guy

>>95960833
Needs more primary colors, oh wait

>>95962310
as stupid or sad as it might sound you can always play yourself with 2 lists like 1k of your guard vs whatever new that you were cooking, or 1k of faction you don't really care to perform even semi-optimally or is in local meta often (i guess some variant of sm) since you'd just want to really feel out one of them

>>95962318
It still looks good, unlike anything you've ever painted

>>95962327
Why would I paint anything for this shitty game lmao.

>>95959790
Ziaphoria's Tower.

>>95962329
lmao you really must have too much free time on your hands to come here despite not engaging with the hobby just to lash out at your betters, pretty sad

>>95962327
I think you might be color-blind.

>>95962319
I don't think anyone would get a proper feel for their armies just by playing against themselves.

>>95960833
Looking good as usual, anon!
Glowing green skull sticks out for me the most though.
How did you do it?

>>95960833
This is beautiful, I love it so much anon !

Thinking about going tau for my second army, and I don’t have an airbrush just yet. Should I even bother without an airbrush, or is it not much worse if i can start with a rattle can?

>>95962295
yeah. it's really tiring how absolutely every hobby is becoming priced almost exclusively for the whales

>>95959735 (OP)
>TQ
Pursuer Cadre

>>95962396
yjk

i love this cute mortar tank

>>95962398
Why are you obsessed with dog fucking?

>>95962396
is that me?

>>95962403
Why aren't you?

>>95962377
no one needs an airbrush

>>95962399
mortar tank

more like

mortar STANK

>>95962448
Being able to do quick, smooth coats on large battlesuit panels would definitely help him though

>>95961590
First off: Pic Related

Secondly: That hasn't stopped GDubs from making rules for models that they don't sell or produce anymore. Kits such as the Destroyer Lord, Huron Blackheart, the oldschool dreadnoughts in the Space Wolves, a few daemons, and let's not forget that 80% of the Dark Eldar roster isn't sold anymore yet still has rules in the codex.

>>95962448
i have two

>>95962278
Belakors shadow legion is nailed on to be the demons detachment in the CSM 11th codex. You’ll be fine as you can use the Khorne demons across both.

>>95962495
can you dual wield them?

Are the dawn of fire novels any good.
I know they are shat on for the stupid covers, but they can't all be bad.
Are they at least worth a pirated audiobook listen?

>>95962520
no BL slop is ever worth reading/listening to

>>95962500
That's gross desu, can't they just give demons back to any CSM army?

>>95962278
simply get rid of them before it's too late

>>95962278
Write homebrew rules and tell GW Fuck You

>>95959812
>More Tzaangors
I'm not even going to write a homebrew for that because I Love You that much.

>>95962487
>and let's not forget that 80% of the Dark Eldar roster isn't sold anymore yet still has rules in the codex.
It's like 33% and they don't have a codex. No resin models are making it into the Codexes anyways this edition (see Karandas and Prince Yriel)

>>95962550
Tell that to Huron and the Destroyer Lord who, despite having being old outdated kits, are still allowed in the codex. It's completely inconsistent who gets the axe, especially with the venerable dreadnought

>>95959875
>they NEED to be 1mm taller!
You've got a mental illness

>>95962520
They are not really outstanding, but also not really terribly bad. If you pirate them to have something to listen to while you paint, they are fine. I actually liked wolftime, despite the controversy with the black vikings on the cover.
But that said, if you don't know some of the better BL series yet, skip dawn of fire for a while and listen to Eisenhorn and the good stuff first..

>>95962563
>vikings
>not from the viking age
what are people hot and bothered over again? they should just make all of them asian for all I care, straight up philipino and australian natives to pull out more tears

>>95962562
>regular rubrics as tall as modern legionaries
Did not expect this

>>95962563
I'm just scraping the barrel of audiobooks now.
I've listened twice or thrice to every book and series I actually liked and that was heavily recommended.
The last barrier I've yet to cross is HH, but I like 40k as a setting more.

>>95962562
Rubrics don't fit into chaos. The aesthetic clashes and looks terrible.

>>95962571
Anon it's the stupidity of placing sub Saharan phenotype people in a desolate ice world and saying they can survive there.

>>95962590
See >>95959819

>>95962594
You can do anything with technology.

>>95959735 (OP)
>TQ

- Sorcerer on JP
- Sorcerer on Bike
- CL on Bike
- Not new unit, but i'd like Havocs to be able to bear Heavy Flamers.
- Any power armour infantry unit, bearing shields, so i could convert horus heresy breachers into my army, they're so cool.
- Either some character to attach to warp talons, or allow CL to do that.

That's it. CSM army is almost perfect in its composition right now.

My other army is SoB. They're also almost perfect and yet, there are few options, that could be added:
- More characters on JP
- Celestians with cool shooting weapon, like crossbows or portable holy water spitters, something like that.

I think that's all they need.

>>95962590
That's why they have their own army

>>95962596
I'm still right, cry about it.

>>95962606
>I'll still cry about it, right
we all know you will

>>95962599
Fenris is not technically developed and kinda a shit hole.
I don't think a group of that ethnicity would be able to endure even a couple of generations of crippling vitamin D deficiency

>>95962599
>
>technology

Just got this destroyer lord proxy as GW refuses to make one.
The stave came out kinda scuffed, but it was hard to print so I don't blame the guy. I also forgot to add a second left arm so I stuck a canoptek wraith whip on the socket and called it a day.

>>95960794
very cool!

>>95962599
Including eugenics.

>>95962613
Not even regular humans would be able to survive on Fenris either by this logic.
Fenris is an ice world, if you want to talk about an ethinicity that can survive in that environment it's the fucking inuits, not northern eurocucks.

>>95961359
Finished. Kind of tempted to start an imperial agents army now.

>>95961753
Yourdudes™

>>95962637
Fenris isn't 100% artic climate, only the poles. The rest is tundra like death world shithole.
That's perfectly northern european territory

3 years ago, I started collecting a Genestealer Cults army.
I never really liked the official GSC lore — the whole idea of carefully preparing a planet just to be devoured later didn’t sit right with me. It just never appealed.

But I’ve always loved their themes: guerrilla warfare, fanatical devotion, and the struggle of the low against the high.

So I came up with my own lore for them.

In my version, they're just regular humans working in an industrialized Imperial system. Years of exposure to radiation and toxic chemicals have slowly turned them into mutants.

Their working conditions are unbearable, yet their labor brings enormous value to the Imperium. Aware of this, the people begin to demand a better life — and eventually, they rise up in rebellion.

That’s their story.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to share any photos of my Genestealer Cult — my old accounts with the pictures have been deleted, and the army itself no longer exists. You'll just have to take my word for it.

However, I can post images of my CSM and share the lore of the warband, if you're interested.

>>95962653
It literally is. Its orbit lasts for several years and only for a few months, when it gets close to its sun, does the ice melt. Rest of the time it's a frozen ice world.

>>95962653
Only for a very short period of time and even then it's still 90% frozen arctic shithole.
Only people that'd be able to function in that environment is the inuits, not africans or even europeans. Only inuits, if we go by your retarded logic.

>>95962678
inuits have no adaptation that makes them better suited than northern europeans, you're not arguing logically, you're just arguing disingenuously

It was a better time...

>>95962652
roll

>>95962682
>orks
>I2
>melee faction
No. No, it wasn't.

>>95962690
hell yeah brother

>>95959735 (OP)
>What kind of unit would you like to see added to your army?
Midrange battle tank for Orks, something thats a good proxy for looted predators or leman russes

>>95962652
roll

>>95962703
>angels of redemption
Eh? Cool, I guess?

>>95962696
>space sharks
I kinda wanted to collect Raven Guard at one point but Carcharodons are allegedly their successors. How would they play on tabletop and what models should one collect? I still need to get a few GSC models to not fail stat-checks but probably in 2026 I'll start collecting them.

>>95959735 (OP)
HH mechanicum robots or if we can't have those bigger dunecrawler

>>95962710
there are no unique rules for them, so codex space marines has all your answers

Let's say chaos dudes with dark skins get mutated and turn albino.
Does this evoke a specific chaos god to you guys, or is it just generic chaos mutation?

>>95962715
really cool model anon

Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>95962652

>read up experimental cadre
>90% is "it's still bait, don't play it"
>retaliation cadre is still mediocre since you need a lot of suits and be up in charge distance
sad feelies
>>95962652
aw hell why not what kind of boy scout do i get

>>95962718
it can work with any
>tzeentch mutation makes you negative
>slaanesh mutation turns your skin to flawless white marble
>nurgle mutation makes you cadaveric pale
>khorne mutation turns your skin to literal ivory bone

>>95962730
Cool, I love Chaos.

>>95960722
Thank you anon.
>>95960782
I've still got to agrax and drybrush the base, I was just trying to beat the timer for the collab.

>>95962726
>Carmine Blades
Not bad all things considered. It's Blood Angels with a side of Conan the Barbarian

>>95962717
I'll look for some intercessors and terminators as regular infantry. Would a Mk7 helmet look weird on them because honestly I prefer it over regular ones but their scale might be an issue since Primaris are larger.

>>95962588
In that case, go for it. HH audiobooks are very high quality tho, because most of the narrators are excellent.

>>95962694
Their good melee units such as Nobz and Meganobz were I3 which became I4 after charging, putting them on par with marines.

>>95962746
>newfags

>>95962740
Found this list for reading and not spending half an eternity with it
Is it ok?

Imperial agents expansion is coming...
I can feel it...
>TQ
Bigger guys. The arbites need their vehicles and we need big chair Karamazov back. Possibly even some secret inquisition jokaero weaponry or whatever. More clandestine specialists and crazy people in robes too!
>>95962649
Yes mwahaha.... YES
The arbites and inquisitor kill teams are by far the most fun thing to paint in the army at least from my experience.
>>95960773
As revealed per the BL Grotsnik novek sloppa orkz canonically don't know what sex is for hoomies and the few who do think it's gross

>>95962760
>An actual agents player
I see you are a masochist.
But yes, Arbites vehicles would be absolute kino. We also need a big boss Arbites marshal

>>95962652
rollan

>>95962652
Rolling for cool chapter

>>95962788
>Random raven guard successor with no lore
Damn

>>95962839
>nice white scars bro

>next reveal show in late July
I now have a hard deadline for finishing my models now

>>95962725
Thank you anon

>>95962864
What do they have left to reveal? More Space Marines?

>>95962916
Unironically yes, but also likely whatever Votann and DEldar are getting with their books.

I had a really bad day today but I'm finally going to be able to paint tomorrow and that makes me feel better.

>>95962864
The major reveals will be Age of Smegmar just like Adepticon was about the Old World...
A couple of named marine pity models and Votann shit.
Keeping count of codexes are still missing:
>Deldar
>Votann
>Grey Knights
>Deathwatch
They won't make a special sally and imperial fists supplement that's far too much marine wank even for GW and xenos players have been eating better than ever as of late.

>>95962967
There's no Deathwatch codex coming. They already announced that. They technically have never said a Dark Eldar codex is coming either.

Why didn't Cawl reinvent moritats?

I'm in a crusade group but it's just a stat-check game after game and I'm tired and I'm not really having fun because I can pretty much can see what's going to happen in the next 12 games or so. Do I just drop out of it?

>>95962967
They already said deathwatch index is all you're getting. The teased book is either a marines supplement or marines 2.0

>>95962967
DW got a pity index, they are not a real faction

>>95962969
>They technically have never said a Dark Eldar codex is coming either.
They make a Tacoma poster with deldar

>>95963012
yes

>>95962967
Bro they literally already confirmed AT LEAST Salamanders, Fists, and Raven Guard are getting supplements. There's genuinely more hype for each of them than Deldar and Votann combined.

>>95963012
Crusade is now just a format used by league players to structure a point progression schedule for tourney leagues. Nobody plays narrative.

>>95962969
>They technically have never said a Dark Eldar codex is coming either.
Doesn't stop this DEfag from posting they will be getting one though lmao

>>95962967
>They won't make a special sally and imperial fists supplement that's far too much marine wank
They've already confirmed they will be getting supplements.
Marines are always going before xenos, especially the 3rd rate stuff like DEldar and votann.

how do necromunda goliaths scale compared to orks, I was thinking of using a couple of their kits for parts

>>95963060
>Marines are always going before xenos, especially the 3rd rate stuff like DEldar and votann.
This. If they just went with xenos going forward this edition would be cooked.

>>95963047
Nobody's a tournament player in the group but everyone tried to fit in as many as OP shit at 1000pts as possible. Here's a Rogal Dorn Commander with 18W at T12 sitting on an objective, granting me 10VP alone each round because it's also my Warlord as per the mission rules say. I just don't have anything to deal with something like that.

>>95963087
What faction do you play?

>>95963039
>>95963048
>>95963048
Looking at the community in a bunch of places Dark Eldar seem to be the "coolest looking army I would never buy" according to lots of people.

>>95963099

would anyone complain if i used this as a lord of poxes if properly dg-ified
lord of poxes are still impossible to come across

>>95963132
I'd recommend sanding down the cloak and greenstuffing it to look like sewn-together rotten skin

>>95963113
In fairness you can't even buy a good chunk of the army easily anymore. That being said I get it - they're notoriously hard to play, paint and transport compared to most other armies out there, along with not being featured in most promotional material. It'd be easy for a new player to not even know they exist. Honestly I can't even remember the last time they were featured in anything. I guess that shitty DEldar vs Eldar box from 9th?

>>95963132
I doubt anyone would care as long as he looked sufficiently DG-ish.

I'm going to submit my vehicle in an almost finished state. I've failed myself yet again

>>95963132
Can you get two kits of Plague Marines for 14 bodies, field them as 5 and 7 and use the remaining two bodies for kitbashing leaders?

>>95963161
You have until monday, you can still make it.

>>95963039
Look a teaser image don't mean no codex it could be a lotta things

why are rhinos so fucking hard to find recasters for

>>95963145
Yep it was the massively overpriced box with a fucking vyper from 1997 in it

>inexplicably £20 more than every other vs box in the edition
>Ancient sculpts like the vyper that no one wants and the falcon everyone already owns
What were they thinking?

>>95962759
I dont know why they would skip some of the more interesting side stories, but sure. You need to keep in mind that its all a matter of taste, and it also depends a lot on what legions you like the most. Your list is the streamlined "Primarch"-main story. It skips pretty much everything that i would consider interesting, because it was not known before.
It skips the White Scars stuff, Dark Angels stuff, Blood Angels stuff, Nightlords, Iron Hands/Salamanders/Raven Guard stuff and also everything about the Mechanicum.
Also it skips all the short stories, and some of them are 10/10.
Depending on where your interests are, this might affect you more or less.

But you cant go wrong by listening to the first 5 entries/books, and go from there, if you liked it or not.

Not from your list:
Outcast dead, Nemesis and Titandeath are excellent, even if they are barely relevant side stories in the big picture. Maybe because of that.
And as an Alpha Legion fan, i'm offended that they did not include "The Serpent Beneath" and Pretorian of Dorn.

I understand those shortened lists from a buyers PoV, so you dont have to buy 60+ books from BL, or from Audible. But if you pirate the stuff anyway, you can just listen to all of it while painting.

>>95963145
Blood of the Phoenix was 8tg edition
Piety and Pain was 9th edition

>>95963217
Ah, that's what it was. Big thanks. God what a shit box. The last time anyone did anything good for Dark Eldar was Rogue Trader putting a big chunk of the campaign in Commoragh.

>>95963234
I'm still pissed you didnt get an option to shoot Marz in the back of the head right at the end of the commoragh stuff, it would be have been a perfect capstone to that section

>>95963132
It's a perfect model for LoP, just put some DG helm instead of his, Or you may use HH mark 2 or 3 helmets, they also fit. That's it.

>>95963255
Well, you can hand him off to the Inquisition right afterwards.

I just want to buy few troops and few characters, nothing special and it already costs
€354.00. That's too damn expensive.

It's not like i can't afford that, but i have strong feeling that it's just stupid to pay that much for that. I believe even Elon Musk or Bezos would consider it unhealthy expensive.

>>95963201
Oops

>>95963285
>>95963201
It's probably one of the worst boxes they've ever sold. The extra funny part is that it's not even a viable Ynnari box and never had been because some of those units have never been usable in Ynnari.

>>95963276
yeah but it doesnt hit the same as a betrayal at the final step

>>95963132
I think its fine to use that model even if you only paint him DG green

is it still possible to get recasts of grot tanks?

>>95963283
thats why people hound for even halfway decent battleforces - even from bw they're like 30-40% off compared to separate items and LGS/non-gw sellers usually are another 10-20% off

>>95963302
3 seconds on google images says yes

>>95963087
Honestly situations like this convince me that this game is not playable under 1500 points.

>>95963087
>march mildly though or just numerous unit up to rogal dorn commander
>tag it in melee
>stuck in place, out OCd, -1 to hit

>>95963012
Politely voice your concerns in the group chat. Maybe clear everything you're going to say with the organizer through private dm first. If you're diplomatic about it, there might be people who were secretly feeling the same thing and now they can publicly agree once one person speaks up, or even if not, maybe some of the tryhards who don't know any better can be introduced to playing a different way. Sometimes people just don't know anything other than competitive and minmaxing because they came from starcraft or other videogames or whatever. If you're seriously considering dropping completely, then it doesn't hurt to at least test the waters to see what other people are feeling first, since if no one agrees with you then you can still just drop out like you were planning.

>>95962162
With its pistol, yes

>>95962311
I look like this and act like this

>>95963439
>pistol
>Weapons with [PISTOL] in their profile are known as Pistols. If a unit contains any models equipped with Pistols, that unit is eligible to shoot in its controlling player’s Shooting phase even while it is within Engagement Range of one or more enemy units. When such a unit is selected to shoot, it can only resolve attacks using its Pistols and can only target one of the enemy units it is within Engagement Range of. In such circumstances, a Pistol can target an enemy unit even if other friendly units are within Engagement Range of the same enemy unit.
>eligible to shoot in its controlling player’s Shooting phase
no, not even with it's pistol

I need your opinion bros. I wanna make some Tarellian Dog Soldiers for my narrative Ironkyn votann league, but i face a dilemma, left is a kitbash from the new saurus and right is the OPR saurians. I like the left one more but thats effectively 80£ for 10 basic dudes so my wallet is hurting for that.

>>95963012
Ask to limit tank toughness to 10 and put restrictions on terminators

>>95963283
Yeah don't pay full price for models, they're overpriced as fuck.
Your best bet is either second-hand (plenty of people selling off their grey tide of shame) or chink recasts (it's resin instead of plastic but also half the price). Best chink recaster is probably the one named war table.

>>95963455
Pirate STLs of the ones on the leftand kitbash them digitally with the ones on the right?

>>95963363
It is playable but the DM needs to enforce certain models to avoid things like that, which didn't happen I'm afraid.
>>95963408
I have after the first game because I was quite surprised after seeing everyone's list for what's supposed to be a casual friendly 1000pts where everyone builds up their army over the course of 16 games or so but everyone has super heavy stuff. I don't have that many models to begin with but even then I purposefully put models like Magus in my list due to her being one of the more important characters in the cult etc. I'm probably the only one not bringing anything like that, nor I have anything on the same scale.
>>95963397
I'm always bummed about Big Guns Never Tire but if I manage to get my Aberrants in Dorn's engagement range, can a Hellhound target my Aberrants?
>>95963457
Too late, we're already 4 games in.

>>95963455
orangebluehue has stl for various aliens meant to work with the tau designs

>>95963455
Get scans or recasts of the left ones kits?

Chaos Knights are cool as fuck.

>>95962562
>they need to be taller
Yes. Their poses are dogshit too.

>>95963488
>if I manage to get my Aberrants in Dorn's engagement range, can a Hellhound target my Aberrants
no, though you can shoot the dorn

>>95963452
I can't tell if I'm misunderstanding you or what
>I charge a hellblaster
>I kill a hellblaster
>He rolls a 3+, he gets to shoot before being removed
>Because he's in melee with me, he can only shoot with his pistol
Every marine player I've played has played it this way.

>>95963519
they played it wrong, pistol only allows you to shoot while engaged IF it is the shooting phase of the pistol player

>>95963519
NTA but Pistol keyword allows you shoot into combat during the Shooting Phase, which is specified. If a Hellblaster dies in combat, it shouldn't be able to fire his Plasma Gun because its in combat and the Plasma Pistol wouldn't work because it's not the shooting face.
I suppose it would work if it's already in the engagement range of an enemy unit during the shooting phase and the enemy kills your hellblaster with their own pistol, they can now fire back because it's the shooting phase so the pistol rule would be active.

>>95963536
>I suppose it would work if it's already in the engagement range of an enemy unit during the shooting phase and the enemy kills your hellblaster with their own pistol, they can now fire back because it's the shooting phase so the pistol rule would be active.
no it specifically says shooting phase of the controlling player.

>>95963538
Thanks I missed that part, then yeah no shootings ever.
>>95963507
What about the Dorn, can it only shoot Aberrants excluding its blast weapons or everything visible to it with a -1 to its hit?

>>95963494
They are the new Saurus Warriors from AoS with Votann Hearthkyn upperbody and hands.

>>95961654
>>95961750
Hey, Ironbro from yesterday. There is an Ironkyn Character, its the generic Kahl, the robo head is an Ironkyn, but special looking since lorewise they are so rare.

>>95963555
everything with a -1 to hit, blast only blocks shooting at the units its engaged with

>>95961654
>>95963584
I'm beginning to wonder if it wouldn't have been better for the leagues of votann to be made of only robot dwarfs

Wonder if I can stick a Wolf Head on a Dread

>>95963607
IMO thats the only reason i like them. mydudes lore is that a Thane (the console that talks to Votann ancestor cores) has become self-aware and is now also a Votann, but kinda broken so it only requests that Ironkyn be built, all except the Grimnyr which has a little garden on the hold.

>>95963625
Love those bases dude

Are we voting today or Monday for next months collage?

>>95963607
maybe stepping on the necrons toes but all of the "dwarfs" being impossibly old AI taught by the original dwarfs to hold on to every single grudge long past the death of everyone that wronged them would be hilarious and fitting

>>95962767
>masochist
I don't see what's so bad about running them...
I posted some of my Sororitas squad and in general I don't find it that hard or complex to run them specially compared to a friend that plays GSC. We do lack anti vehicle and anti big dumb characters like Norns or Farsight options but otherwise it's golden
Crusade rules are a fucking mess though don't recommend in the slightest

When you bring a dead model back via reanimation protocols, if you put the model in the range of an objective you were not controlling at the beginning, would you score points for controlling that objective? I'm asking because RP happens at the end of the command phase, which is also when you score your points.

>>95963619
use the wolf heads as his fists

>>95963655
Hmmmmm

>>95963607
I like the mix, I feel like straight robots would feel too similar to Necrons or AdMech. I am just waiting for the eventual "gotcha" where there's some horrible thing about the AI to justify why it really doesn't work and everyone else is totally justified in banning it.

>>95963655
gaster blaster

>>95963652
Because both scoring and reanimation happens at the same time (at the end of your command phase), the controlling player (you) can choose the order.

>>95963660
>the eventual "gotcha" where there's some horrible thing about the AI to justify why it really doesn't work and everyone else is totally justified in banning it.
I wouldn't go that far, but I would definitely work with the idea that the flesh and blood votann are cattle that need to be made, allowed to live and then die for the exclusive purpose of powering the psychic part of the votann instrumental for their warp travel navigation, and that if they didn't need this part the supercomputers would have exterminated the fleshbags long ago to run exclusively with robots.

>>95963655

>>95963710
was thinking more like this

>>95963530
Oh gotcha it's an out-of-phase thing

>>95963704
Thanks. I taught a 10 year old kid he could do that with his army but I assumed RP occurred at the beginning of the Command Phase. I'd feel super shitty otherwise

>>95963749
Critically, reanimation happens after battleshock, so no boosting to above half strength before rolling

>>95963455
We pic now

>>95959772
oh I thought Mark VII ate it.

Are these good again?

>>95963633
Thanks, think its a culmination of lazyness and refining. Getting alot done with minimal effort.

>>95959735 (OP)
>TQ
Shooty Celestians
Basic Sisters squad with bolt pistol and chainsword
Sister Famulous
A flyer of some kind, a Lightning Fighter, or a blinged up Lighter transport.
Crusader squad
Deathcult Assassins
Frateris Milita
Frateris Milita on horseback/motorbike/quadbike/hilux with heavy stubber

That would all be highly appreciated.

You'll never see storytelling-by-beard in another space marine model range. Blood angels could never.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/o3c99sgs/the-life-cycle-of-a-space-wolf-as-told-by-his-beard/

Why does just about everything in DG have lethal hits? Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

>>95963792
In a great case of GW balance
S8 AP-1 D2 gun is 200 points
S10 AP-2 D3 gun is 100 points
Yeah the PBC has a better save, 2 more wounds and an extra pip of T but it really shouldn't have a strictly inferior gun indirect or not

But actually? They're not that bad, nothing in the DG codex is bad except the plague surgeon and the icon bearer. Just remember that they're awful if you play them as mortars to hide out, they're reasonably tanky and you should be moving them up and just LoS shooting the main gun (it kills like one marine on average when indirect shooting it).

>>95963823
It's a compromise to representing noxious weaponry without stepping on Deldar toes by making everything anti infantry

>>95963823
It's their army rule pretty much, their replacement for the old plague weapon rule.

>>95963822
>Given his astonishing age, we can only imagine what kind of hirsute artistry Bjorn the Fell-handed is packing beneath his sarcophagus…
I know it's a joke, but I do find the idea that Björn being tangled in his giant beard within his sarcophagus pretty funny

>>95963816
>more W1 chaff
I just want something with a bigger gun

If (You) were to kitbash Seraphon into 40k, what army would you choose?

>>95963816
Yeah getting rid of shooty celestians seems pretty silly; I guess dominions are supposed to be the special weapon squad but celestians having the master crafted storm bolters and some datasheet ability to double tap one unit or something seems better to me

>>95963822
Space Wolf Bros are just too cool for skool

>>95963896
>If (You) were to kitbash Seraphon into 40k, what army would you choose?
Seraphon

Someone tell me what my dream army is:
-Melee focused, with a few dedicated shooting units
- backed by a few good tanks/monsters(especially if they can get both)
-a bit on the horde side, but still somewhat durable


I've been playing this game on-and-off for years(6th was when I began learning rules, began playing in 7th). I played 30k mechanicum in my local group with Blocks of Melee Thralls and some big robots. I've been chasing that high since, with.nothing quite feeling like it hit that itch that the 30k Mechanicum scratched

>>95963836
I'm still mad DEldar poison completely stopped working on Monsters, Beasts, Demons, and Mounted between editions. Incredible that they don't have access to Lethal Hits at all outside of a strat in a soup detachment.

>>95963915
Come 'ome, ya git

>>95963915
Literally world eaters. Forgefiends and predators form a shooting backline, they're obviously melee-focused and they have monsters like the daemon prince (and also access to bloodthirsters if you want even bigger monsters).

>>95963915
What is World Eaters

>>95963933
>>95963934
World Eaters eat dirt.

>>95963896
Votann see:
>>95963455

>>95963934
>>95963933
Is the Jackhal detachment any good? I love those models and I've always to do my melee army to have tanks that I can attach corpses too. I just am not the biggest fan of marines desu
>>95963928
I played Orks for a bit back in 9th, but sold my shit off. I like the snakebite/feral ork theme a lot and ran a bunch of snaggas.

>>95963915
Your dream army is scyther

Bringing a Knight Castellan to my 1k games

>>95963965
The jakhal detachment is kind of a meme. It's very good on paper and many armies simply can't deal with the kind of thing it wants to do. But to really do what it really wants to do, someone would need to acquire and paint up 100+ jakhals, and one would have to be kind of insane to do that. But the idea is very cool and on paper, 100+ surprisingly punchy dudes with 4++ for two rounds of the game, a bunch of tough monsters and maybe a lord of skulls will simply bowl over some armies, and bog down a lot more.

>>95963997
>The jakhal detachment is kind of a meme.
Jakhals themselves are a meme.

>>95963822
>Blood angels could never.
That was uncalled for.

>>95964005
When the detachment slaps a 4++/5+++ on them and you got 120 of the little cunts barreling down the table at you, it probably won't feel that way.

>>95964030
I don't care about the rules. I just think the models are ass.

>>95963988
you should try bringing a washed ass to your games for once

What is the Las Vegas of 40k

>>95964043
If they're bringing double Rogal Dorn or Morty to 1k point games I am bringing the volcano cannon

>>95963988
People will probably appreciate the free win.

>>95964043
But then how would I attract females without my pheromones?

>>95964062
Surviving the nuclear apocalypse more intact than others and actively being fought over in the future?

>>95964062
Commoragh

>>95963499
Are any of the big stompy knights worth souping in semi-competitively? They're so fucking cool but everyone in my store is a sweat and I like to not get tabled by turn 2

>>95964185
THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY POINT CANIS REX

>>95964075
No a cesspit of degeneracy and decadence that chips away at the soul with its wonders.
>>95964080
I was hoping for a notable imperial pleasure planet, but maybe I can make this work. Are people able to freely enter here?

>>95964195
There isnt a traitor canis rex.

>>95964185
Dude just soup, its all about fun and if a dweeb goes tryhard mode on you then use your giant knights to smash their feeble pieces. There is a chance the store will ban you tho

>>95964185
The Abominant is so cheap you can just slap it in there and it'll be fine as long as you're not playing Houndpack Lance. Even if they blow it immediately, just the resources they have to spend on killing it likely means they're trading down.

>>95963896
Anything except Tau because I want to be a contrarian and go agains't the most obvious choice.
I will go with old creations by the old ones enslaved by some necron dynasties after the WOH.

>>95964185
At 325 you can put in an abominant and not feel bad about it whatsoever. It's quite decent.

>>95963896
Either orks or necrons.

Chaos marines if you really feel weird.

I'm not asking my question in a thread that's about to be pruned

>Space Marine 2.0 leaks

New Hestan Model
New Lysander model
Jubel Khan on Jetbike(WS, Outrider Leader)
Sharrowkyn (RG, lone op duelist)
Stronos (IH, Terminator buffbot)

1st founding chapters get a thematic Combat Patrol that synergises with the new units
Assault Terminators
Multipart Outriders

>>95964477
>Sharrowkyn
wrong

>>95964477
Post the leaks

>>95964477
>khan on bike
but will it be better than bikes used by blood angels?

>>95964461
>thread that's about to be pruned
This thread won't fall off page 20 for another 24 hours. /tg/ is very slow outside of this general.

>>95964477
>Putting a flying mounted leader in a group of non-flying units that can't breach
This is awful design and I almost believe they would actually do it, but they're not that dumb

>>95964612
This is the same codex where one Phobos unit has a dedicated leader that makes them worse.

>>95964612
>but they're not that dumb

>>95964612
you'll get your mandatory 1cp stratagem to breach walls

>>95964632
yeah, this is already a thing with sammael and the beastmaster from dark eldar iirc

>>95964647
The beastpack data sheet is so schizo

>>95964641
there's a much easier way to run a bike list and make your opponent regret trying to hide behind walls
the buff to reivers has been hilarious and no one is safe now
they ignore terrain, they can deep strike, they can drown targets in attacks with precision so they're great for kneecapping crons, and if you're feeling really zesty you can start them in an impulsor, scout them up into primary if you have turn one where they can hop out and go be murderous little batmans somewhere else

>>95964647
NTA but the Beastmaster can technically already breach despite being mounted because the UNIT all has the type "beast", including the character
The DE index is just very, very poorly written

>>95962520
Iron throne is real bad. REAL BAD. They rest are ok. Short, fun reads.

>>95964668
You should see the Court of the Archon blob with a full squad of Kabalites attached. 10 different Shooting profiles. 7 different melee profiles. 3 different wound counts. 3 different invulnerable saves. 7 layered buffs before strategems and detachments.

>>95964701
yooooooo sick pic my nic

>>95964185
Give it a few weeks to see how it shakes out. The knight changes just hit the game. It might not be that strong competitively if you care about high level table performance. Or it might be too strong. If you are casual I say go for it because keeping the knight alive and trying to different strategies to use it (like Reserves + Rapid Ingress) can teach you a lot about the game and deployment.

>>95961755
i would skip the combat patrol. get helbrecht, grimaldus, and then just start buying boxes of crusader squads and sword brethren, with redemptors and land raiders to taste, and wait for the updated assault terminators to come out eventually

the combat patrol is honestly kind of shit.

>>95964704
Beatsmaster Beastpacks are fun too, despite the jank. I have resigned myself to accepting they are probably gone after this edition but I will play them as much as I can until that time.

>>95964672
I miss that short period of time where we had the insta-tarpit Reivers

>>95964717
>crusaders
>intercessors
>marshal
>impulsor
these are some of the strongest units in the space marine/black templar codex/index
redemptors are useless even in ironstorm and will actively make your list worse because of their awful point cost/what they actually do
land raiders still see casual play but realistically in the current hellscape of powercreep they get blown up turn one, and they're 280 points

Pride month is nearly over.
What's your army and sexuality?

>>95964768
Yes and Imperialist

>>95963012
If it's crusade, experiment with your lists in a way that'll mess with the local meta. My crusade was very vehicle heavy too, so I opted to take nothing but infantry. It didn't do much better or worse in the long run but I greatly enjoyed seeing the panic on some of my opponents faces at the sight of 130+ infantry running towards their lascannons.

Why isn't there a single primaris unit with a chainaxe even as an option

I miss ForgeWorld's Imperial Armour campaigns.
I missed them (I was too young and into Bionicle) when they were released and miss them now.

>>95964771
This is (You).

>>95964811
just put a chainaxe on your chain sword model, they're the same damage profile

>>95964824
But there aren't any easily sourceable plastic chainaxes

>>95964812
What stops you from getting the pdfs?

>>95964835
pretty sure popgoesthemonkey has axes in 10x that are plastic, but if you get over your autism there is a world of options on etsy for cheap and no one will know it's resin under the paint

new

>>95964861

>>95964861

>>95964861

This website is busted, it made me repeatedly get post timers before making posts

>>95964836
I have the PDFs, I just feel that having the physical book is better feeling.

>>95959735 (OP)
>What kind of unit would you like to see added to your army?
A huge fuck bio-titan bigger than a Knight. Not the shitty Forge World Hierophant with its spindly dumb legs, I mean something like the OG Epic ones with bit fucking fat chonking limbs and gribbly tentacles and shit everywhere. Like a cross between a Haruspex and a Norn Emissary but twice the size.

>>95961976
>Culture warriors like you
>said the guy literally trying to make EC into LGBT vomit
kys

>>95967563
>>said the guy literally trying to make EC into LGBT vomit
EC have been LGBT vomit since the start.