Thread 95967676

How big is a goblin?

>>95967676 (OP)
depends on how many you can fit into a tile before crashing

No shorter than 3', no taller than 4'. For comparison, Dwarves are no shorter than 4' and no taller than 5'.

>>95967676 (OP)
The correct size. That's why they're named after Gob the god of green creation. It's the tallemen who are weird and incorrectly sized. That's why they're called tallmen.

>>95967734
thats pretty big for a goblin, anon

>>95967743
I don't think so? Under 4' would be very short compared to a standard sized race like human or elf. I think they and halflings should slot into the same height bracket. Any shorter than 3' and I think they stop really being goblins and become something else.

>>95967676 (OP)
Their penis/breast size or their height? You have to be specific.

>>95967676 (OP)
It's kind of a difficult question to answer really.
Folklore speaking Goblins are mostly pretty diminutive as far as I'm aware. They operate in the same sort of mythical basis as Faeries, Gnomes, Hobs, and all of the various other small spiritual tricksters and helpers.

Tolkien helped codify the Goblin as a fantasy staple alongside later works it influenced (D&D and Warhammer mostly)
Notable though is that Tolkien is the creator of the word Orc which in his stories were simply another name for Goblins. But due to his varying descriptions and interchangeable use of the words they slowly metastasized into distinct creatures.

D&D made them distinct, but also introduced other sub-types of goblins like Hobgoblins and Bugbears. Based on various legends and myths so now we've got Goblins, Orcs that aren't goblins, large militaristic Goblins reminiscent of Tolkien's Orcs/Goblins, and finally bugbears that without looking into I have no idea of their origin off the top of my head.

Warhammer shows up as well and becomes the basis of essentially the standard modern fantasy Goblin and also conveniently (or not) ties them back to Orcs again. Bright green skin comes from Warhammer as far as I'm aware. Here they're presented as related to Orcs but still slightly distinct. Mostly by size but there are still large Goblins that are Goblins not Orcs.

So I guess the answer to your question would be anywhere from about a foot tall to about seven feet tall. Depending on your source of inspiration and opinions on what a "proper" goblin is.

Pic (probably) unrelated. It's a matter of perspective.

>>95967676 (OP)
theyre goblin sized, which is about as big as a goblin
hope this helps

2-5ft tall

Females (goblins) 2-3ft, males 4-5ft. Females comes in anywhere from pale yellow green to forest green. Males (hobgoblins) hues are yellow orange to deep red. Similarly to how man can mean man or [wo]man, goblin can mean goblin or [hob]goblin. They can live just about anywhere but their preferred habitat is mountainous woodlands. Which is why they very often come into conflict with dwarves as goblins encroach into their mountain territory, and dwarves trespass and tear down goblin treelines for lumber. Both races have a deep-seated hatred for each other. Goblins originate from the feywild like elves, but have life on the material plane for far, far longer.

>>95967676 (OP)
2 to 3 cubits

>>95967676 (OP)
about twenty-four goblinches

>>95967676 (OP)
A puntable size. So no bigger than like a 7-8 year old.

>>95967676 (OP)
Hip height on a man of 5'8" to 6'0".

>>95969847
>Females (goblins) 2-3ft, males 4-5ft.
nah, that difference is way too big, and those males are way too tall.

>>95967676 (OP)
Small enough to punt, big enough to fuck.

>Latina fetishizing thread.
Yawn.

>>95970432
Yes, because they need to be a viable threat to dwarves besides "numbers"

>>95970734
They can still use weapons, including ranged ones. Or use traps.

>>95970749
Fine for your setting, my setting has hobgoblins with similar builds to dwarves

>>95967676 (OP)
Depends on what the rules of the game of your choise say.

they should be as big arond the hips as they are tall.

>>95971185
>1024x623

Go away.

>>95967827
>Tolkien is the creator of the word Orc
no he isn't lmao
he took it directly from old english sources, orc has been used in books since 900ad at the very least

>>95967676 (OP)
I have two broad 'families' of goblinoids in my games; mortal goblins and fey goblins.
>mortal goblin
Three feet, give or take six inches
>mortal hobgoblin
As goblin but civilized
>mortal gremlin
As goblin but mad scientist

>fey goblin
One to three feet, usually, a wide variety of mutations and animal traits possible
>fey hobgoblin
Big. Too big to hide where it just reached out of to snatch a life away. Towering, looming nightmares, even to other powerfull fey.
>fey gremlins
Six inches or less, however small they need to be to clamber inside current machinery and mess it up.

>>95971185
>>95973548
>goblin thread
>posts green elves and elephantkin

>>95974142
What the fuck is an "elephant-kin"?

>>95974157
i’m guessing it’s the big ass ears

>>95973933
So I'm vastly oversimplifying yeah, because of post limits.
To phrase it more accurately Orc in the way it is used is a construction purely of Tolkien's invention.
There are references to various orc words throughout history, that is true, but they have little to do with the modern word orc, because Tolkien explicitly revived it after it had fallen out of use.

For all intents and purposes Tolkien invented a new meaning for it and re-popularized it independent of any of its original definition, although saying he created it is a bit inaccurate.

You're free to disagree, and if you have evidence I'd be happy to look over it, but everything I've looked at shows that this is the basic gist of it.
Although it boils down to how you view etymology I suppose.

>>95967676 (OP)
bigger than a halfling but smaller than a really big halfling

WHICH FUCKING GAME ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT YOU INSIPID FUCKING RETARD

>>95975637
gurps

Roughly three apples tall.

However small is necessary to have fun with them. (Note; "Fun" is up to interpretation.)

>>95975935
>image literally has "sample" in the filename

Man come the fuck on.

>>95971185
what's even the point of "liking goblins" when they don't even look like goblins anymore but just green elves?

>>95979308
I think no matter how many times you shit your diaper about "green elves" it won't stop people from posting goblins or instantly identifying them as goblins, which they are.

>>95974142
>>95979308

I like "green elves" because they both share a fey heritage so they should be similar in some regards, but they still need to be monstrous

>claws
>sharp teeth
>large ears
>stocky bodies

>>95979650
coomer though they may be, at least you can instantly tell them a part from actual green elves.

>>95967676 (OP)
Around a meter I'd say. Runts would be around 2' 10" and big un's would be around 4' 3"

>How big is a goblin?
Several inches tall. Sometimes a little bigger, depending on the myth, but rarely above knee-height. "Goblin" is really more of an adjective than it is a noun, anyhow. Goblin-dog, goblin-town, goblin-market, et cetera.

>>95979981
That's way to small to be a goblin. Hell that's more in line with a fairy.

>>95967759
Halflings are between 2' and 4' tall

>>95967676 (OP)
So big they're a threat to civilization, so small they're weak and powerless, a meek and pathetic display of a inferior lifeform.

>>95969847
Making female goblins shorter and sexually dysmorphic in the same manner and ratio as humans is lazy, uncreative and wasteful.

>>95970734
Play a better system and being a foot shorter than your dwarves doesn't make them useless.

>>95980789
>same manner and ratio as humans is lazy

2.0 times taller is the same ratio?

>>95980819
considering the smallest adults possible are the size of kids, some even sub 100cm, and that 3-4x as many people are 200cm+, yes

>>95980819
no they're different because because because i huuuh made the women really really small so its why they ascribe to the same social dynamics as humans it has nothing to do with being lazy

>>95980683
Goblins ARE fairies, anon. Nasty, mischievous, impish little fairies. And what's worse, they're all male. Faerie types are divided by gender: a nixie will always be female, a boggart will always be male, et cetera.

>>95980946
The difficulty here is that you need to start making the distinction between medieval fairy tale goblins and more modern role playing game goblins. Almost none of the goblins specified in a player's handbook or a monster manual these days would fall under your definition. You'd find that kind of creatures under some miscellaneous fey listing or just lumped as a fairy. Now I'm not saying you should abandon your definition, but since goblins are fictional, they are multiple things at once. We are both right, and both wrong at the same time.

>>95980996
... what does a "Gobsmith" smith?

>>95980996
Oh certainly, fantasy goblins are very different from folklore goblins. I simply treat my preferred use of the term "goblin" (i.e., the folklore-inspired one) as though it were the only one as a sort of axiomatic assertion of the superiority of my preferences.

Unfortunately, I also prefer my fantasy goblins to generally be ugly and semi-feral, so we would probably not agree on the shortstack bimbo goblins anyhow.

>>95981075
Gobs obviously.

Lips at 37 inches off the ground or able to reach 37 inches off the ground with tip toes if she can maintain tip toes for 3-4 minutes

>>95981516
>3-4 minutes
bro...

>>95967676 (OP)
Not big.

gobbos are like 2 feet tops
hobgobs are 4-5 feet, smarter and maybe magic
bugbears are 5-6 feet and strong as shit

a horde of goblins is like a horde of toddlers with bloodlust and fully developed agility

Tall enough for a goblin deez nuts joke and no taller.

>>95981516
>3-4 minutes

lol

>>95967676 (OP)

goblins are bigger than you'll ever be, anon. elf girls will always prefer BGC over chudcels like you.

>>95982008
Girls call him quickdraw, he's the fastest shot in the west

Or they would if he talked to those sort of creatures

>>95979308
in all reality, Goblin art is the only real way that short fat women are portrayed in a sexy context. The vast majority of men have seen some uncomfortably thick short lady with some huge assets that they would absolutely say yes to. If you're in the southwest, you see short women that are fat, but have it in the places where it just looks good. Men are walking around with women who look like these, but that body type is still completely absent from everywhere in media. so I like shortstack goblins because there aren't 4'11, 180 LB goddesses with giant asses represented anywhere outside of the hub.

>>95983258
>>95982008
I'm adjusting for the fact it's a goblin

>>95981151
>no bottoms
>stirrups

So she has to be working at a whorehouse and the blacksmith bit is just a part of the fetish, right?

>95967734
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>95974157
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>95984382
>mention goblins
>a degenerate retard instantly ruins the thread
You'll do the world a favour if you die and fuck off, not in that order.

>>95987230
>"Look mommy I replied to everyone teehee"

I mean if it really pissed you off you could've at least saged instead of bumping a thread you hate.

>>95987790
>i deliberately went into a thread for something i hate and now i am offended! how could this happen to me!

I can't believe retards that dumb still exist.

>>95967676 (OP)
I think goblins should continue to grow larger based on their population & mutate too. Like, if too many goblins develop so,where some of them will turn I to taller hobgoblins. As their numbers build you might start seeing specialized goblin subbreeds too, like bugbears & nilbogs. Once you have too many goblins & hobgoblins you get a goblin king which is as tall as a man/slightly taller & really powerful. That's why goblin infestations should be handled with care

>>95967676 (OP)
The perfect size.

>>95989873
>such a degenerate that he can't imagine a normal goblin thread
>>95980946
This guy is what these are supposed to be for. Good art and an interesting take on goblins (even if I >>95989873
don't agree with him and his own pic shows a babuska goblin). But it's desperate losers like you that shit them up for attention. End yourself, cunt.

>>95980946
Ok, can someone post that one image of goblins and a girl getting done "eating" fruit?

>>95990285
cry more, faggot. hot gobbo babes are hot.

>>95967676 (OP)
head at crotch height always

>>95990218
>tfw no gobbo wife to toss around like a throw pillow

Just tall enough to give an average height human male a blowjob while standing up

Why was this deleted? It's not even half as risqué as some of the other stuff in this thread.

>>95990285
I can see how you'd take the one in the pink shirt to be a 'babushka goblin', but the poem the illustration was made for specifically calls them goblin-men and so I take it as written.

>>95990594
Just for you, anon.

>>95967676 (OP)
gnome size

>>95993941
>goblin-men
That in and of itself refutes the idea of them all being male, then. Otherwise, you wouldn't need to specific goblin-MEN.

>>95993941
Oh hey is that the same girl? What is the story behind these pictures?

>>95979308
elves are just humans with funny ears

>>95967676 (OP)
Whatever they are, it doesn't matter as long as their heads and bodies are reasonably proportionate. Designs like Pathfinder's take on goblins piss Me off so much because there's no way this retarded looking creature would be able to lift it's beach ball ass head with it's spindly spider-leg body.

>>95967676 (OP)
About 2-3 feet is perfect, maybe just reaching 4 if standing up straight.
I noticed a lot of Gobs in video games tend to be much bigger than you'd expect because they're always hunched over