Thread 95980313

Beards & Braids Edition

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>>Previous thread:
>>95977190

>Thread Question:
What army are you starting next?

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
I've got a few unbuilt units but I'm stuck between building more knights and building Drukhari

>>95980313 (OP)
Putting plain helmets on all these gay dawi wannabes

>>95980313 (OP)
If they did this for Votann I would have bought them

Which 40K character has the same energy as Captain Spaulding?

>>95980340
Solitaire because clown

>TQ
I’m selling my world eaters, probably gonna wait and see what’s gonna be in the 11th starter.

>New lore about Inquisitors and Grey Knights discussing Khorne
>They say humanity's struggle against Khorne's destruction of reality empowers Khorne and feeds into the very demise that they are struggling against. The very act of fighting against Khorne gives him power and seeds the doom of mankind, yet humanity has no choice but to fight on
Why did GW write Chaos to be such a busted faction? There is no internal balance.

>>95980340
Average Harlequin troupe leader

>>95980378
It's irrelevant, Tyranids eat everything in the end anyways.

>>95980393
Actually....Qaramar is a daemon who exists at the end of time. His job is to guard the final moments of the universe. His existence proves that Chaos existed up until the heat death of the universe. So that means that the Tyranids failed.

bought my first box of space marines in 15 years and damn these dudes are big now.

i feel like gene-stealers are black coded

>>95980411
just because they like dirt bikes and hand flamers?

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
Think I'm gonna go in on Eldar. Picked up Eldrad recently because I think his model is cool and I just need something fresh to paint after doing so much Mechanicus. Plus the Falcon and Wraithguard models look neat

>>95980423
no, their faces just make them look like niggers to me; however i am drinking wine atm

>>95980426
Faggot.

>>95980402
Lore citation please? Genuine asking and not the anon you responded to.

>>95980430
that's not nice :(

Monday is the deadline for both vehicle submissions and the vote for next months theme. You can submit your vehicles to this post if you haven't done so already.
Here is the link to the vote https://strawpoll.com/bVg8Bm591yY
Elite squad is still in the lead.
Next month I'll set more concrete dates and deadlines. I don't wanna be controlling but I feel it would prevent confusion and the info could be attached in the op to make it easy to see.

>>95980313 (OP)
>tq
I only just started my sisters army, I was between this, mechanicus, dark angels and drukhari so I guess eventually I might start one of those too.

>>95980434
Dark Imperium series. Qaramar gets summoned from the end of the universe to fight Roboute. Gets beaten but survives perma-death by the Emperor's Sword because fate ordains that he must witness the end of the universe.

Just picked up EC after GSC, but if I was going to make a 3rd army (and not be smart like always), I'd find a way to spam Ogryn in IG.

Or Chaos Knights.

>I hate having money.

>>95980439
It's the appropriate response to Eldar players.

>>95980450
Close enough thank you.

>>95980402
The timeline can change

just impulse purchased like £200 of warhammer stuff

Which Space Marine legion should I go for this feel?

>>95980442
I redid the basing on my Knight so now I wanna say she's ready.
Even machine-spirits can grieve.

>>95980487
Gee I wonder

>>95980487
Look like White Scars.

>>95980442
What would elite squad =?
Non-battleline over 100p?

>>95980313 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>What army are you starting next?
Tyranids

>>95980484
That’s okay i impulse bought less than that but it was on art supplies for this hobby.

>>95980313 (OP)
I ain't starting shit! I'm actually finishing my armies before I even think about starting anything! I got four fucking Tormentors finished, I ain't buying any warhammer models that aren't EC until I've finished 2,000 points of EC AND i've finished my Cities army for AoS. It's called discipline, it's called seeing something through to the end!

>>95980487
something tells me... dark... eagles?

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
Honestly? None. I've found all my great loves. MAYBE I would paint a few squads as Crimson Fists to add to my Blood Ravens but that's hardly a different army. I have Guard, I have Sisters, I have the aforementioned Blavens, I have Orks and Deldar. I just... don't like Chaos. They don't appeal to me in any manner.

>>95980487
>Light Devils

>>95980510
Remember before this edition there was a Force Organization chart with a slot called Elite?

>Paint Marines as Blood Ravens
>Can use Chapter-specific models as proxies and just say they were 'gifted'
Hehehe

>>95980442
Are submissions open tomorrow?

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
After my Iyanden are done I think I might start a Cadian army.

>>95980493
Much nicer anon, good shit

>slowly backlog has developed
Its not awful but its enough to bother me
Its the painting that's so time consuming. When I rejoined in lockdown I had all day now just sundays

>>95980550
All monday

>>95980510
What used to be the old elite slot. Think terminator equivalent units. Big boy squads.

army for the delusional misanthrope sociopath?

>>95980580
Space marines

>>95980586
your mouth could use a good fucking

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
Csm. Got my hands on so nice retro csm recently. All I gotta do is decide the colour scheme.

>>95980589
What do you mean? Space marines is the right army for any and all personality types.

>>95980597
i dont know you just seem like a complete asshole: like if i had a game against and i was winning you'd be smug about it, making snide comments toward me in order to cope.

>>95980493
Very cool. I knew you'd make it.

I don't think I'll ever go to a tourney but I'm curious, does the battle-ready requirement require the same scheme on all units? I have a CSM army and a DG army, sometimes I like to use the Predators from the CSM army on my DG to switch it up, but they're painted in their own scheme different to the DG. Is this legal?

>>95980378
I always assumed that just like chaos vs chaos fights, being defeated overrides any spiritual gains you would get.

>>95980580
Dark Eldar

>>95980600
I just responded with an army and you insulted me. I wonder who the snide asshole is.

>>95980567
>>95980601
Thanks anons. As it turns out I just gotta douse my gravel in a little bit of 50% skeleton horde 50% agrax and it looks much better.

>>95980378
Humanity beats khorne by using nulls and using enforced peace.
Eldar beat khorne by meditating and wearing warmasks.
You basically have to be above khorne. But in a battle you can beat a khorne force by force because khorne himself is fair. He basically goes in with a little battle plan and limits how much he will bless and send into a battle. Once his internal limit is met he just focuses on something else.

>>95980609
defiantly you, i can feel it through my computer screen. i know it, i feel it.

>>95980615
I have been nothing but polite. I hope you get the help you need.

I know White Scars and Dark Angels are know for bikes, but what other space marine chapters do the whole bike thing?

>>95980402
Eldar defeat chaos with the help of humanity when Fuegan games the dragon of the end

>>95980618
you're a fake bitch through and through.

>>95980621
Astral claws

>>95980623
Sure thing tough guy

>>95980623
Nta but please get some help to change and grow. You’re reminding me of what I was like at fifteen ten years ago.

why is everyone on this website so bitter and hateful

>>95980580
Thousand Sons

>>95980629
>>95980628
nothing tough about it, nothing that needs helping.

>>95980631
I don't know but it's really starting to tire me out

>>95980631
It's summer. Once the kids go back to school it'll get a bit better .

>>95980639
grow up.

Post what you're working on, just applied Slaanesh Gray over Alien Purple over their skin. I realized I did not really paint the exposed skin under the carapace on some of them so that needs fixing.

>>95980644
There has never been an increase in site traffic during the summer

>>95980625
Hey these fellas sound familiar

>>95980631
Most people are decent here, it's just a handful of spiteful spergs that shitstir every chance they get

How likely is it for a warband to be in control of or allied with a chaos forge world? I want mydudes to have a reason why there getting such a steady supply of equipment and augmentations

>>95980313 (OP)
Where is a good place to get/read all of the codex and books without giving GW any money? I tried finding some second hand, but the prices were a bit ridiculous.

>>95980340
Lucius. Dude has a sense of humor then just kills in rough ways.

>>95980313 (OP)
>ye olde dreadlock beards

>>95980442
where dos one upload the pics? Here?

>>95980669
Yeah just respond to the post with your picture.

>>95980442
Do people who replied to one of the earlier posts have to repost their submissions?

>>95980669
>>95980686
are you people unironically retarded or something

>>95980693
>Warhammer "players"
>reading

Pick one.

Are the Word Bearers actually the most pragmatic of the traitor legions? They aren’t completely under the thumb of a single god like the main four legions are and they aren’t sticking their heads in the sand about using chaos like the IW, NL, and AL are. They accept all that worshipping chaos entails and how to get the most out of it

>>95980339
This except giving them tusks.

>>95980686
No, it's just if you haven't submitted your model yet. I'll double check last weeks threads for submissions too so I don't miss anyone.

What's the consensus on the new drop pod? I assume that by "modular" debris they mean you can make it totally clean, right? The coolest part of the drop pod is being able to put it down and open it.

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
It's still far away in the future, but right now I'm thinking Dark Angels.

>>95980707
It's fixed down but debris is optional.
I'm glad I have my opening-closing Drop pod but actually painting them is so fucking cancer that I'm alright with it going

>>95980707
There's no reason why the kit should waste space for debris instead of making the doors closable
it's insulting

>>95980648
batch painting my way though backlog. waiting for oils to dry before i base, paint lenses, and varnish

>>95980714
>>95980719
>doesn't close
I'm unreasonably mad at this information

>>95980707
>>95980719
>>95980734
you retards have never put together the godawful current drop pods if you don't understand why they removed the optional closed doors

>>95980707
>Official model showing off that it's easier
>Still has a really noticable gap
gonna still be hell to build, huh

>>95980707
I love how they left the obvious printing layer lines in and also didn't green stuff the gap on the center strut closed. Really goes to show the effort this company goes through for us.

>>95978481
>nyarlothep-like wandering messenger of tiamat, the absolute first patriarch of all genestealers, born on the moon of ymgarl, a twisting figure of writhing tentacles more than a coherent organism, extremely religious vibes
Really cool idea
>an even more xenomorph-like lone agent, the gimmick is that noone has the slightest idea what it is, beyond that's possibly a pitch black genestealer, and that it's so negatively psychic that the other tyranids on the battlefield need to stay away from it (and that narratively speaking, the hive has to put it down at the end of the battle)
Reminds me of when anons were making a hypothetical blank tyranid and it needing to be lanuched as an egg and hatch planet side and needed to be killed and reabsorbed after the fact

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95980754
Everybody who's touched the new kit said it's a breeze to assemble compared to the old

Arbitrators have achieved mainstream coolness. What do?

>>95980761
One day you will answer for your crimes. I can feel it.

>>95980785
>Nah, I'd arrest you.

>>95980658
Totally plausible if not probable.

>>95980442
>character in the lead now
Dang it, I had just started to plan out what squad I was gonna do.

>>95980785
What comes next after the arbites?

>>95980785
now to follow through with the (stolen) theme

I'M GONNA DO IT

>>95980378
>thinking that the power of 40k factions comes down to anything other than their narratives being written to hype them up as cooler than the rest in ways that are constantly contradicting the fact that the other factions have been given the same treatment
Forget the specifics, grasp the concept and explore how they all throw themselves into the meatgrinder of a war that will end with either everyone dead or no one happy. It's all background context for the battles in the actual game and anyone who thinks otherwise is a coping book shiller.

>>95980876
DO NOT DO IT

I would like to purchase a Crusade book, but I find it hard to care about Armageddon. How “agnostic” are Crusade rules? As in, if I were to hunt down a Crusade book from a previous edition could I still use it with 10th’s rules with minimal homebrewing?

What does /40kg/ think about fan fiction stories

>>95980908
Wasn’t there an unofficial 40k chapter book sold on Amazon at some point?

>>95980693
Yes I am, just read it a second time and saw it.

>>95980678
thank you, i for next month up. kek just finishing a squad of stern guard. if elite makes it.

>>95980876
Damn there should be a chapter called the Metal Fingers or something for cool guys like him.

>>95980761
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>codexes are 70 USD
I just want the art, not publishing an art book every edition with all the art from the new rulebooks is goddamn terrible

>>95980922
If Elite squad, Crisis suit

If non-faction character, Neurolictor (ik its technically elite infantry but bite me, the model looks cool)

>TQ
I'm starting a CSM army. Tested out the color scheme for the power armor on this Warp Talon, trying to decide what color the trim should be.

>>95980753
the old drop pod is piss easy and players are just retards

turns out you just....lay the base of it flat on the table, lay the doors in place and then attach the top of the hull (that you assembled earlier)

>>95980939
Spoken like a retard who's never built one

>>95980785
They're a neat retinue option for an inquisitor, it's cool that you can splash them into any list without breaking the bank.

Vigilant squads are OC:2, so aren't terrible objective sitters for armies that need that like knights

Subductors are annoying to deal with because of their 4++, kind of taking the same role that crusaders used to have in Guard armies

>>95980876
>I press this button and our fleet in low orbit will project the Brown Note over the entire battlefield, causing everyone on this hemisphere to shit their pants. Your move Salamander

>>95980943
i've built 3 in the past

>>95980830
I'm guessing a Tech Adept. Although I'd be down for sanctioned xenos.

>>95980908
Fan fiction about /yourdudes/ is based, anything else is cringe

>>95980974
>Didn't post them
no you haven't.

R8 da set up /tg/

>>95981024
Jesas/10

>>95980934
White trim for peak S0VL

>>95980930
I feel like Codex’s should have bespoke missions themed around the specific army for playing games. Maybe even themed around the Edition Combat Patrol.

>>95981024
>vertical monitor
>solely for discord
For what point? Erp?

>>95980378
In Angron the red angel
The GK are chasing Angron and purposely starting wars to spawn enough slaughter to get him to show up, and when they finally catch up, are so bloodthirsty to kill him and some GK's that were blood angels fall to the red thirst to such an extent that Angron just respawns and regenerates off of their aura of hatred and anger alone and is acknowledged in the book.

Saw somebody here post pet pics on EoB's server and the motherfucker has a pet fox

>>95981024
Might be one of the only people who likes world eaters more than me/10

>>95981034
Its so I can play Chess or look up other shit when I play TTS and during work I juggle 2-3 excel spreadsheets while using the front monitor for vidya calls (WFH = TTS on the clock baby)

>>95981024
>catsuit on the floor
Desgusteng

>>95981024
Mine is better

>TQ
Finally making a silly dream come true of making a Khorne army I can use both in 40k and AoS.

Vashtorr? Never heard of him. This is a Skinny Legend Daemon Prince of Khorne.

>>95981039
I have a world eater tattoo and Im kinda known worldwide for erm, doing something in the opponents shooting phase....

>>95980992
>what is past tense

>>95981043
This is someone's son.
I wonder how those parents feel.

>>95981024
Not yours out of ten

>>95981042
thats hilariously a bolter that fell off a model and a red cap from an expo. I have children that roam this room.

>>95980985
>Tech Adept.
I’m surprised techsorcists aren’t that popular. Don’t know why your post reminded me of them. But it is ffg stuff so that might as well be considered obscure 40k lore nowadays.

>>95981024
Yet another tumble dry or iron your goddamn temu flag out of 10.

>>95981031
I didn't even realize that's what I had done.
I'll see if I have a good metallic white.

>>95981024
>not an unfinished basement where the painting station is separate from room with computer in it
7.5 out of 10
Your setup is comfy though.

>>95980648
Finished this guy, working on my techmarine now.

>>95981045
It's fine as a 40k army but it's kind of the gayest shit as a aos army and just comes across as brokeboy behavior

>>95981047
>cope for why you can't post them
yawn, try harder next time when you're going to larp about model assembly

>>95981067
it all blend together, should've used some brighter colors

>>95981067
looks great
nice job on the whip highlights

>>95981024
>popcorn ceiling
>crown moulding only on the drop ceiling
>carpet
>glass block accent window
3/10

>>95981067
Whip turned out really nice sallyfren, I know you were stressing about it

>>95981086
That's not popcorn ceiling

>>95981061
U rite
>>95981065
its been ad hoc so Ill take it

>>95981069
Yes, I'm broke. What of it?

Eldar don't have weapons that can destroy planets.
Lamest faction confirmed?

>>95981112
It's depressing

>>95981099
Why don't I recognize even a single model from your cabinets, also does that LOS have fucking wings

>>95981124
he has a unfinished heldrake sitting on top of him, so, kinda yes.

>>95981099
Well at least you're not a fat fuck.

>>95981147
Naw I powerlift and compete in Muay Thai and BJJ

>>95981035
>and some GK's that were blood angels fall to the red thirst
What?
That doesn't make any sense, GKs aren't blood angels at all

>>95981124
that's great that you can identify every poster by the curl of their ball hair bro

>>95981114
Most faction's don't have the means to utterly DESTROY a planet readily on hand.
In this case we're not talking about an Exterminatus level cleansing which everyone can do easily, we're talking about rendering the planet down to dust in an instant.
Fittingly enough the way they pull it off is with a gift from Vect himself.

>>95981154
Do the nails bite, brother?

>>95981157
A lot of the original GK were scattered from loyalist legions and scalped for their psyker abilities after the advent of the horus heresy. Recruits after this had to endure the 666 trials. Read Moar

>>95981099
>/40kg/ user that isn’t fat
I kneel
And now I gotta start diet and exercise.

>>95981175
All the time

>>95981076
Noted.

>>95981154
>BJJ
Blowjob jitsu?

>>95981217
Yeah, I can get a guy off in 5 seconds. do you know how defenseless you are when youre climaxing?

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
I'm getting into Ynnari but I'm just going to paint it as an Il-Kaithe and Deldar team-up.

Not sure what Kabal I should go with.

>>95981186
The original 12 founders of the Grey Knights were from the Knights Errant of Malcador, but they're long dead. The Grey Knights themselves have gene seed that isn't from any of the primarchs, and they're not sourced from existing chapters like the Death Watch are.

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ

I have thousand sons, Necrons, and Tyranids. I'm pondering, as a final army, dark eldar, custodes, or emperor's children. But, if I'm losing the combat patrols with the boats I'm losing appeal to dark eldar.

>>95980313 (OP)
TQ
Guard
Next army is traitor guard
Love the guard.

>>95981233
>The Grey Knights themselves have gene seed that isn't from any of the primarchs
It's probably sourced from Thousands Sons given that Janus was the first leader of the Greay Knights

>>95981307
His geneseed was removed.
>>95981233
Their geneseed is straight up said to be from the Emperor's flesh.

>>95981239
It's going to be a sad day. And it might already be starting because it's sold out online in the UK and has been for weeks. It might actually kill the faction for good if they get a worse discount box.

>>95980699
Yes. Word Bearers mix the traditional tactics and equipment of Astartes with open utilization of Daemons to their fullest. They can pull tools and blessings from all four Chaos Gods as needed and will do so unrestrained.

>>95981233
This doesnt at all address the point I made or the fact that the book I referenced confirmed this, lol

>>95981371
Thank god I got the previous Guard combat patrol before they replaced it with the current smegma-tier one.

>>95981239
>>95981371
I still need one more of the current Combat Patrol before it sells out. Damn. I've been eyeballing the Tau box too.

>>95981453
you dont like horses?

>>95981453
That guard combat patrol is so fucked man. I have no idea what they were thinking.i don't care if it's technically good value, no one wants to be forced to start out a guard army like that.

>>95981488
its like a 19% discount lmao. you might be thinking of agents.

HAHAHAHAHAHA YES

>>95981371

I bet the new one will have like 30 wyches and 6 hellions or some shit

>>95981503
they're getting squatted

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ

if i ever get around to it probably gsc

>>95980759
What tyranid is that in the bottom right?

>>95981475
Honestly they're pretty neat, but it's a fuck load of painting for such a cheap and memey unit. If the box had just one more interesting and useful unit, I'd probably think it's okay.

airbrushes are for cowards

>>95981475
FOR THE EMPEROR

>>95981503
Nah, they've got a lot of plastic kits to off-load from the old plastic still

any word on pandemonium? id like to read it before WWIII ends the world

>>95981682
What

AI needs to be explored more in 40K

>>95981502
very jealous
was that the nomodels kit sold on ebay recently?

>>95981800
No this was a local pickup that I just got lucky on.

>>95981783
Not really, it's pretty well established as an extremely dangerous thing that's banned by the AdMech

>>95981475
I prefer adult women

>>95981502
>betrayal at calth tokens
Kino, did you get the boards with them as well?

>>95981502
Which edition of SH is that, 3rd?

>>95981876
Ah those weird hex boards? I was trying to figure out what those were.
>>95981897
Yeah

I don't have the minis of my own but I've slowly been painting the Space Hulk minis of another set owned by a friend and he's pretty open to just giving them to me

>>95981909
>those weird hex boards?
Yeah they're from BAC along with the baggy of tokens, if you've got the cards and dice as well I'd suggest giving the game a spin, it's pretty fun from what I remember

>>95981099
This guy looks like he'd tell me to get good then start shadowboxing

>>95981820
Yeah, but emergent psychological data gestalts have to form alarmingly often giving how much wetware the imperium uses. They can metastasize into AI’s

>>95980721
What are these little fuckers called, ive been trying to find them for ages and I'm tired of using a cat food dish wrapped in foil

>>95980313 (OP)
>TQ
I picked up the LoV combat patrol for cheap recently, just trying to work out a colour scheme for them now.
Was looking at mining and salvage uniforms and ppe for inspiration, but I'm unsure how day-glow yellow or orange would work on a miniature.

>>95982005
Space marines

>>95981445
>This doesnt at all address the point I made
It absolutely does, because Grey Knights can't fall to the Red Thirst because they aren't Blood Angels.

If you're talking about former Bangels in the Knights Errant during 30k, then sure. But the book factually does not have 40k era Grey Knights falling to the Red Thirst, and you clearly listened to an audiobook without paying attention.

>>95980785
I think these guys could be cool but the helmets just being "LOL I PUT DA ROBOCOP EYE SLOT ON DA JUDGE DREDD" is so lame to me. It might be the least interesting helmet in all of 40k

>>95981987
>They can metastasize into AI’s
That sounds like you're describing what a Machine Spirit actually is.

>>95980930
So buy all the codexes at the end of an edition when they go cheap

>>95980930
most codex's are just reused shit from last edition anywas,

>>95982031
Just like the 3rd and 4th edition codices
SOVL

>>95981611
Washing your clothes with anything but a washboard down by the crick is for pussies with soft hands

>>95982050
>replying to your own shitty bait when it gets no (you)s for hours
kys

>>95982012
>>95982005
>>95980721

Listen cumgargler, I might have forgotten the image but we both know that's not what I was talking about

>>95982037
Those ones were very much not re-used shit at all, though.

>>95982025
Machine spirits are usually fundamanetally not self aware though. An AI would be, so an ai is something that could grow out of a machine spirit unless pruned by mechanicus overaight.

Noob Question: If I am using regular glue to attach parts and I paint the space marines backpack separate from the body, the primer that ends up on the attaching point between the back of the body and the backpack won't effect the bond between the glued parts right?

>>95981488
I, for one, really do want a horse-guard army. But I don't like the Roughrider minis.
That and there is no generic horse command, nor a way to make them battleline, which means more then half the army can't be horse anyway.

>>95982055
Bruh I was just reading through the thread and saw the bad carpenter claiming tools are bad. Why don't you go take a little nap or something you seem cranky for no reason

>>95982057
the CSM and tau codices are recycled to all hell

>>95982067
>the primer that ends up on the attaching point between the back of the body and the backpack won't effect the bond between the glued parts right?
If you want to stick things on with plastic glue then you have to scrape the two surfaces down to bare plastic and use the tiniest amount. Consider getting a small synthetic brush, and pouring a drop into a spare base or bottle cap, then using your brush to paint it on the surface

>>95982050
>crick
>a painful spasmodic condition of muscles (as of the neck or back)
Don't think you should be washing clothes by hand in such a condition.

What movies do you associate with space marine chapters? For me it’s the Coppola Dracula movie for blood angels

>>95982156
blood angels literally have this armor on astorath, mephiston, and the jump chaplain, so it's not hard to see why

>>95982156
Want just you. GW themselves said as much wayback when they made the muscle armour.

>>95982156
I associate the Vikings series with Space Wolves

>>95982156
I don't think about marines much at all.
Least of all, when I'm watching movies.

>>95982189
>black leather harley davidson fag vikings
no wonder you decalslop, you don't understand the faction

>>95982182
>>95982184
Yeah that makes sense, blood angels just look cool as fuck in general and would probably be the chapter I’d pick if not for some of the redesigns
>>95982189
Damn dude did you have to use every decal possible
>>95982193
You may lack a soul anon

49 votes is pretty good for the July community painting event.

>>95982233
3 of those were me

>>95980313 (OP)
>black-sculpted Space Wolves
>asian-sculpted Space Wolves
ridiculous

>>95982233
46 of those votes were my kids.

>>95982272
>vikings
>in this year of the 41st M.

>>95982277
its the principle of the thing.

>>95982272
How is it ridiculous

>>95982285
There is no principle, you're just another nomodels culture war tourist

>>95982294
I mean, black and Asian space wolves is funny in a black guy larping as a Viking after playing assassins creed Valhalla kind of way

>>95982218
>You may lack a soul anon
Well, if the SoS ever get expanded, I do plan to collect them, so, I guess?

>>95982290
They're the viking faction. Their identity is being Scandinavian.
>>95982294
The marked increase in these sculpts is a direct consequence of the internal progressive push in GW (need I remind anyone of the custodes kerfuffle?).
I'm not the problem for noticing, you're the problem for enabling GW to chase politics.

where are the hype moments and aura for 40k

>>95982321
sorry zoomer, there's no screens with subway surfers and making lead art in sand in tabletop wargames

>>95982321
On the tabletop when you smash your opponent with your amazing army and rape them in the hotel room afterwards. Unfortunately, you do have to actually get minis and play the game for that

>>95982321
Please repeat yourself in English.

>>95982317
You are the problem, secondary

>>95982349
>you care about the models?
>you must be a secondary!

>>95981314
Which is silly; the Emperor wasn't a Primarch (so wasn't a Gene-Seed producer); the Grey Knights were Created by Malcador, not the Emperor; the Emperor was enthroned and immobile by the time the Grey Knights came back from their isolation so they never had any chance to collect flesh from him.

>>95982336
>>95982321
>"What are the coolest moments in the series and who is the most badass?"
There, I translated their demonic black speech into a proper human language

>>95982362
a lot of the original grey knights were made up of the black shields who survived the heresy
this is a known lore fact but admitting they are literally made up of traitor geneseed is a big no-no
even some of the chapters who have "questionable" geneseed and seems by all accounts to be traitor successors keep their holy globules away from the inquisition and claim parentage to a loyalist founder

>>95982317
>They're the viking faction. Their identity is being Scandinavian.
No it isn't retard. They're the barbarian faction, stated by multiple of the developers themselves who said the viking elements were overdone and Wolves were supposed to represent more groups than that, and they are Fenrisian, which is an entire planet.

No Chapter in 40k was ever meant to be a 1:1 substitute to a real-world culture or group, they're supposed to be weird exotic mishmashes of different time periods and places plus new sci-fi elements to create something evocative of certain tropes but also new and fresh. Jes Goodwin has talked about this on Voxcast. You don't get 40k at all.

>>95982395
>faction that has had a consistent design vision since 3rd edition is wrong
next you're going to tell me that Ultramarines are not space romans

>>95982123
What cousin loving, meth smoking, cow fucking country bumpkin uses "crick" for "creek"?

Blood Angels refresh should have had more Italian renaissance

>>95982448
So they should have been gangsters?

>>95982434
Erm no chud they’re actually macraggians and they actually space hellenes mixed with other influences.

God you just don’t get 40k at all, you fucking chud.

>>95982395
>umm, actually, the Space Wolves are ethnically ambiguous!
>with Norse runes carved on their armor
>and names like Bjorn and Hvarl and Faffnir
>and they come from a cold planet of stormy seas called FENRIS
>and they grow stereotypical pronged or braided beards like Vikings
>and they are famous for drinking ale and longform storytelling like Odin's chosen in Valhalla and the poetic edda
>and they use the symbol of the wolf, which is famously associated with Norse berserkers (even though berserkers are bear warriors)
>and they turn into wolf-men like the Ulfheðinn
>and they use the term Wyrd, which is the Germanic term for fate
They're vikings you giga retard.
There's no weird exotic mishmash or different time periods that inspired them.
They're an overt ripoff of dark age Scandinavia in every regard.
I M B E C I L E

Hype moments? Aura farming? Anyone?

>>95982485
check, jaq draco tried to rizz up genestealer gussy frfr on god

>>95982448
Yeah I think having s mixed baroque and gothic theme would be really cool for them and add to their angelic flair. Honestly the blood angels are really cool and probably one of the most unique chapters, too bad about their new models

The Executioners are the cooler barbarian chapter than furfags anyway

>>95982495
love these little guys
they shit on the space sharks in every engagement during the badabh war and basically kind of disprove the memes and slef-fellating redditors do over the carcharodons

Which founding chapters are canon trying to start legions?
Put aside Black Templars for this one.
Red Templars maybe?

What are the sisters of battles official numbers since we're talking battle armor bolter troops?

>>95982471
Nigger there are no real world ethnicities in 40k. I just got done telling you, they draw on tropes from existing cultures fucking obviously, but the actual people that exist in the 41st millennium are not even human beings as we know them. They wouldn't even genetically qualify as homo sapiens - ANY of them. All of Humanity was replaced in the Dark Age of Tech by fucking engineered test tube babies made to be more adaptable to foreign planets at a faster rate.

Then another fucking ~25k years went by on bizarre planets scattered all over the galaxy plus mutations from warp influence and other factors.

There are no Scandinavians in 40k. Or for that matter Africans, or Anglos, or Asians, or Jews, or Arabs, or fucking Aborigines, or anything else. All of them are long dead, gone, extinct, replaced somewhere between year 10k and 20k by an entirely new race of genetically engineered designer colonist babies. Every fucking bloodline that exists today is obliterated. Whatever colonized Fenris could have looked like anything ethnically, and then they rapidly would diverge across the planet and evolve faster generation to generation than normal humans, so that by year 40k a Fenrisian can look like fucking anything depending on what part of the planet they came from, because again, it's an entire fucking planet, so it could have 100 different ethnicities on it just like Earth does today, instead of one brand of snownigger.

>>95982503
they didn't shit on them every time there was one engagement where they just slaughtered each other to the last man
>These two Chapters, both famed in their own right as savage and unyielding, had fought each other to mutual annihilation, ripping apart the base around them and trampling its former inhabitants into the dust.
>Many of the bodies from both sides showed signs of having fought on despite suffering horrendous wounds, severed limbs and massive trauma that should have felled even a Space Marine, and several were found locked in deathly, gore-splattered embraces, striking at their foes with their last ebbing strength.
>Which fighter, Executioner or Carcharodon breathed last to claim a bitter victory shall never be known, as neither side has acknowledged any survivors of the massacre living to tell of the battle.

>>95982516
This is a long write up and still doesn’t address the whiplash and inherent humor in a black guy larping as a viking

>>95982531
>vikings go everywhere
>some viking blood in north americas prior to the spanish finding the continent
>somehow that doesn't apply to africa

>First 1k game as Ksons vs Deldar
>First 2 turns, all 20 of my rubrics and half my robostatues are dead
>Bottom of 2nd, deep strike SOTs
>DP and Termies clean house and I win because the only 2 units left with my opponent can't crack DP's armor and I control 3/5 points
>Throughout the game manage to critcast doombolt twice to destroy elfboats
I FUCKING LOVE WIZARDS!!! I WANT TO GET ANOTHER DP BECAUSE WOW THEY'RE REALLY USEFUL

>>95980313 (OP)
>>95980313 (OP)
>>95980313 (OP)

Armageddon crusade, scanned and clickable links in contents page for your viewing pleasure.

If someone wants to add an index I'd be much obliged.
https://files.catbox.moe/gz3f3q.pdf

>>95982507
Red Templars seem to be codex compliant
Black Templars and Dark Angels are actively doing it, but even some Dark Angels successors have thrown the whole Inner Circle nonsense out
Space Wolves are not codex complaint but I'm not sure they are actively pursuing legion levels
the Astral Claws tried to build a legion, that went well for them

>>95980313 (OP)
Tyranids followed by Marines.
>don't question the plan, I will convert the fuck out of all the models
>all of them

>>95982539
Kind of irrelevant considering those natives with Viking blood didn’t end up becoming Vikings themselves

>>95982516
seething nonwhite,
I didn't say they were Northmen in the year 900 AD. I said that their identity is a ripoff of dark age Scandanavians, and it is. They have always been depicted in this way.
>>95982539
First you claim race shouldn't matter because 40k years past, now you've been reduced to blackwashing real life European history?

There was no nonwhite genetic presence in Scandinavia. This found iirc one nonwhite person, who was a Saami.
Population genomics of the Viking world, Ashot Margaryan et al.
https://doi.org/10.1101/703405

>>95982578
>natives
>not already following gods of the sky since 12,000 BC
ishydiddy

>>95982584
That may be but they certainly weren’t among the Nordic pirate bands in the 800s collectively called Vikings

>>95982583
>seething nonwhite
I'm literally whiter than you, I just read lore.

>First you claim race shouldn't matter because 40k years past, now you
That anon isn't me dumbass.

>>95982599
>bothers to reply
>doesn't reply to the content of the post
also
>claims to read the lore
>doesn't know the Space Wolves are viking themed

>>95982574
You could have made a full fledged marine army with that much money

40k is a shit universe to be stuck, but at least chaos can laugh it off.

>>95982574
questioning the plan. what the fuck.

>>95982624
120 spinefist gaunts (making fists ezpz)
120 hormagaunts (scythe hands ezpz) - also bonus, the models are closer to the ground than box hormagaunts
So. I can make screamer killers, trygons and mawlocks out of psychophages and half of the ryans leapers will have talons removed and given snake bodies similar to the above to be raveners.
I'll have barely enough models for a Hyper Adapted Ravener unit.

Among other conversions. Terminators will become deathwatch and given cyclone missile launchers, 10 of the captains given storm shields and thunder hammer conversions.... Etc...

>>95982640
I feel like this is a stupid and reckless purchase
do it

>>95982507
>What are the sisters of battles official numbers since we're talking battle armor bolter troops?
Nobody knows. The big six are 'a few thousand' but can be upwards of ten thousand or more.
Minor orders are founded all the time, battle groups split from a larger Order for various reasons, or newly founded for a specific purpose.
The smallest formal size of an Order is a Preceptory, 1000 sisters and their hardware, but numbers aren't hard-capped.
Sisters will be present at all large ecclesiarch holdings, and they found at most churches, cathedrals, shrines, etc.
There are forgotten shrines to venerate forgotten deeds of forgotten saints that still have a lonely sister assigned to them. It's likely a retirement opportunity more than anything.

And then there was one edition, I think 6th, where GW retconned away half the main 6, and Every Single Minor Order, without any explanation. And just as quietly de-retconned it in the very next edition.

>>95982574
The ETB models in the starter set are horrible to convert.

>decalslopper posts decalslop
>race baiting shotposting immediately follows
Curious

>>95982566
here's how I plan on breaking into 2k
>Combat Patrol (new one) (final 10 rubrics and anti-character snipers is useful and the DP is a bonus)
>5 more Termies
>Predator
>2 Rhinos
>Land Raider

I just got my ultras painted to 1500 points today and i am out of gas. Not sure if I should keep grinding to get to 2K or just take a break and start something else after.

>>95980648
Spent my Sunday basecoating this sorcerer termi and his familiar

>>95982643
I've done stuff like this before.

Back in 3rd/4th edition. I turned my ancient massive 14k army of chaos into nurgle because I was tired of having 4 different legions represented and they took away my basilisk model.

>>95980934
Really cool scheme desu

>>95982574
>those prices

Are the starter sets really 100+ in your shithole country?

>>95982703
87 per

>>95981024
Its in your moms house, isn't it?

>>95982749
Not a dreadnought because he is not entombed in a sarcophagus. He is closer to an admech Thallax.

>>95982749
Servitor

>start liking dorn
>feel like making a successor chapter to imperial fists
>look at marines
Welp, won’t be doing that again.

>>95982471
>>95982583
It is pretty obvious that Chapter/Legion culture is just cargo cult echoes of actual terran cultures or evolved as such convergently. But in reality they also recruit from a fuckton of worlds, meaning that different ethnicities can and would happen from time to time.
We literally have a recent (9th edition i think?) artwork of a caucasian White Scar so you can't pretend like it only goes one way and its some sort of heckin' white erasure. And Suck Can (or w/e his name was) was a pretty asian-looking Salamander.
Yes that also means there is a nordic as fuck Celestial Lion somewhere, big whoopty-fucking-doo.

what's the best way to run and use assault intercessors?

>>95982821
>the loathsome dung eaters
Literally every other yellow chapter is more interesting

>>95982846
stick them in car
drive car to enemy
jump out and bumrush battlelines

>>95982839
this is kind of right, kind of wrong
Chapter recruiting practices vary, Space Wolves literally only recruit from Fenris, so the diversity would match what Fenris is, and we know that Fenris has limited and irregular sunlight, so for the millenia humans have lived there the need for excess melanin would have been quite literally left behind even if the planet had been originally populated by individuals with high melanin levels
Ultramarines and Imperial fists, on the other hand, have wildly different recruiting planets and environments, so seeing a lot of marine diversity wouldn't be too odd here
some chapters even have geneseed that while pure changes the basic genetic make up of a neophyte, the Blood Angels geneseed is infamous for being able to take mutated freaks that barely resemble humans and turn them into glorious golden haired gods with perfect physical features

>>95980313 (OP)
>What army are you starting next?
I might buy a few custodes if their next models are update in scale to not be shorter than primaris

I wish I could afford some Saturnine Terminators. I’ve been living paycheck to paycheck my whole adult life, is spare cash really a thing people have? It seems like a myth at this point.

>>95980487
I dunno, try White Scars.

>>95982880
>Space Wolves literally only recruit from Fenris
they received primaris reinforcements like everyone else which were not fenris bred, assuming any of the original primaris reinfs are still alive it's plausible that you get melanin enriched vikingz with them

>>95982893
I might be remembering it wrong, but all primaris reinforcements are part of the Wolf Spear chapter
which is a pretty cool chapter and their iconography is very clearly PNW native American inspired

>>95982880
>>95982893
>>95982898
Yeah this wolfspear dude looks pretty native american/siberian, but wolfspears are also barely different in colour scheme.
There is also Icefangs and regular Primarisoids that SW took in can probably come from varying stock.

question to try and spice up my TS warband. what would be a reason for marines to almost religiously follow a non-marine to literal hell and damnation? and is it possible for a non-psyker to become a powerful tzeentchian daemon prince?

>>95982865
who are the best yellow chapters?
I love painting yellow

>>95982921
Imperial Fists
Angry marines

>>95982914
>what would be a reason for marines to almost religiously follow a non-marine to literal hell and damnation?
You would have to make the marines REALLY dependent on them, which is extremely fucking difficult to do. The only example that comes to mind is that one chick in world eaters in 30k, but even then that wasnt loyalty that was just some respect, with the backing of angron. The marines in question would have to be renegades at the very least.
>and is it possible for a non-psyker to become a powerful tzeentchian daemon prince?
sure, chaos is chaos.

>>95980648
Got back to painting after a break, it did not go well

>>95980648
Got back to painting after a break, it did not go well

>>95982914
trying to make an unfunny vtuber expy as the reason for your army's lore will be seen as cringe by everyone

How the hell one is supposed to paint Dark Angels Sternguard and Jump Veterans? According to the new lore and rules they are Deathwing now.

>>95982995
paint them normally, they just have the wording

deathwing isnt a paint scheme, the tactical dreadnought suits are bone armor

>>95982995
like they're in first company

>>95982995
Can you post a screenshot or something of that? I don't have their book so it's the first I'm hearing of it.

>>95982749
>>95982776
already a thing

>>95982921
Lamenters
MM
Libators
Howling griffons
Celebrants
Flame eagles
Skull Bearers
Solar hawks
Tiger claws
Lion warriors
Marauders
Penitent blades
Emperors shields
Crimson guard
Harbingers

>>95982995
>If you paint your space marines the wrong color James Workshop will take your models away

>>95982952
Try holding the model upside down, starting at 1. And then pull towards 2. You'll find that the beginning of your brush stroke will tend to be fatter, so it's better to start by the wide point of your triangle

>>95983027
there's a cheat
you cut tirangles in tin foil thats the thick kind and bend over and slightly drybrush the dimensions on there

the thick kind I speak of is meant for covering roasts at the industry level and can be found at some stores
>heavy duty aluminum foil is what my country calls it

>>95982574
get a spyral hack cutter, youre gonna need it

>>95983002
NTA but here's the rule. All the nounguard veteran units get the deathwing keyword. The fluff still says the deathwing is an all-terminator company, though. I suppose it's the result of the inner circle keyword being scrapped this edition.

>>95982998
>deathwing isnt a paint scheme, the tactical dreadnought suits are bone armor.
It is though. Bladeguard Vets are officially part of the Deathwing.

>>95983002
See >>95983051

>>95983011
I know it's a wild idea but someone people want to paint their toy soldiers lore-accurate.

>>95983034
I fucking hate working with masks and stencils of any kind but if it works for you that's pretty cool. I usually just draw my freehand patterns on lightly in pencil so I've got some lines to follow and then paint over top, and hit it with an eraser to get rid of any pencil marks

>>95983035
I plan on using wire snips before assembling the model. I just need to angle the model as I please.
Simple image to show what I plan for a mawloc/trygon. I looked over the model sprue plenty to see its very possible, I'll be removing the smoke stacks and using them somewhere else.

The wail will be wires and PVC pipe, with filler.. I also love snakes, and I WILL be making the model look like a coiled up snake in defense mode.

>>95983027
Good advice, thanks anon

>>95983058
its a gentle drybrush to get the lines down

its as simple as cutting too much and laying it on the model, and then pull it off to cut some more off and trying again and when its just right you hold it there and gently dust some paint on the spot and there's your line to "draw in the lines"

>>95983051
>>95983057
>Deathwing's tactical MO since 2e has been to deep strike a bunch of heavy dudes in and bust things up
>they've been more consistent on this than Raven Guards being played sneaky or White Scars being played as bikers
>but for reasons of shrimplification GW decides to broaden the Deathwing to include a bunch of units that can't do this one specific thing that the Deathwing's whole ruleset was originally designed to do
I can't believe I'm saying this but even Inceptors would have been more on brand

>>95982952
The doggos look nice!

>>95983091
deathwing drop pods with vets inside...

>>95980378
None of that is new lore.

>>95982670
What are you gonna pack in land raider? Only flamer rubrics make sense but not that much because then they can't cast spells and are cheaper than the transport

>Decoy Targets: Twice per battle, in your Movement phase, you can select one other friendly INFANTRY model that is on the battlefield and not within Engagement Range of one or more enemy units. The selected model is destroyed (ignoring any rules that are triggered when a model is destroyed) and this model is removed from the battlefield and set up again as close as possible to where that destroyed model was and not within Engagement Range of one or more enemy units. This ability cannot be used more than once in the same battle round.
How does this work exactly, and what is the purpose of this?
Do I just take a single miniature in the squad out and move it? A whole squad?
How close is close? What purpose does this serve?

>>95983101
I was considering stuffing a Drop Pod with Sternguard but I guess I will paint the Pod green anyway.

>>95983027
>>95983058
carnac you’re a trash painter though

>>95982988
It only works if it's Slaaneshi because the jokes write themselves.

Threads pretty comfy. Be a shame if someone summoned decalchad heh heh heh

>>95982495
Executioners are very cool
I'm kind of glad we dont hear much more about them aside from their badab war stint, its good to not flesh out every little thing about a chapter and overexpose it

>>95983201
the actor did a good job of making lore such a dick

Why doesnt the Emperor just make new primarchs?

>>95980707
>What's the consensus on the new drop pod?
Have you got the new Drop Pod rules, anon!?!
Give them to me now, you absolute faggot.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>95983219
>Why doesnt the Emperor just make new primarchs?
I'm sure he'll get around to it when he's not a dead guy sitting on a fancy chair.

>>95983226
What a lazy bastard. Sits around for millions of years literally doing nothing

>>95983220
either 10 tacticus/firstborn or 5 gravis
Flaps are not part of the model
No more OC/Gun

>>95983253
>either 10 tacticus/firstborn or 5 gravis
>Flaps are not part of the model
>No more OC/Gun
Meh if true. Will depend on points. Under 50 will make them usable in some lists.

>>95980707
> I assume that by "modular" debris they mean you can make it totally clean, right
How about checking the sprues pictures?

>>95983237
>What a lazy bastard. Sits around for millions of years literally doing nothing
Disability pensions are way too high in the 41st millennium. Why would anyone go back to work?

If I was a SM I would take over a planet and be king

>>95983305
Based renegade.

>>95983305
>If I was a SM I would take over a planet and be king
We'll, I guess we should all be thankful that in reality your super power is not being able to walk up a flight of stair without needing to stop half way.

YOU
TELL ME YOUR FAVOURITE TANK IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW

>>95983332
Repulsor because it looks cool.

>>95983332
Mutalith vortex beast

>>95983332
Church Organ Of Doom!

>>95983332
>>95983340
>>95983342
>>95983318
carnac stop being a pedo

>>95983346
stop projecting, schizo

I’m starting to not care for 40k

>>95983346
Meds, now.

>>95983346
you're really cranking up the schizoposting lately, you all right bud?

>>95983318
Isn't that the pedo artist?

>>95983369
go back

>>95983372
>

>>95983354
Thats a qr code

i have finally painted 2000 points of knights

>>95982914
The mortal says they know where some magical Mcguffin is and after some series of tasks is complete they'll tell the Marines where it's at. But since this Tzeench who the hell knows if anything is true.

>>95983386
He's a big guy.

>>95982988
Huh? Oh no no I think you got it wrong it's not a vtuber thing

>>95983388
>can't spell slaanesh
>those dubs tho
Conflicted kind of feel

>>95983399
We are not allowed to spell g-ds name. Checked

>>95983332
battlewagon

>>95983198
>Warpsmith finds an ancient Slaaneshi techno-daemon which upon releaae latches itself onto one of his mortal slaves, transforming her into a Chaos Vtuber
>The Warpsmith and his band are then forced to follow her antics around under the promise that greater secrets could be offered (it's just more Daemontubers)

>>95980313 (OP)
>TG
After suffering 10th edition trying to make Codex Space Marines work. If I don't quit the hobby entirely, I'll go back to Necrons, or start a Tau army and faceroll myself to a top 10 finish in every tournament between now and 11th Ed.

Would you rather be a servitor or a chaos cultist?

>>95983424
I'd rather just be dead honestly

>>95981371
>best combat patrol
Oh really?

Has anyone else used dirty down rust effects? I really like how it looks in some ways, but how the fuck do you keep it from being so chaotic in coverage? Weird and splotchy and inconsistent.

>>95983442
>but how the fuck do you keep it from being so chaotic in coverage? Weird and splotchy and inconsistent.
I thought that was the main selling point of the stuff. It looks realistic because it's random.

>>95983454
I'm trying to go for a more mild amount in crevasses and dripping a bit out of screws and stuff.

>>95982056
https://a.co/d/caMqhyq
or just search metal paint tray on amazon

>>95983456
AK enamel rust effects might be better for that

>>95983456
You're going to need to use a different product. Maybe try some enamel paint that's supposed to emulate rust.

>>95983463
>>95983466
Thanks, guys. I'm kind of new to doing weathering and damage since I started making orks. I always tried to make them clean, like they were in a parade before.

Drop pod detachment rules coming, I can feel it

>>95983477
Go watch Nightshift on youtube, dudes a scalebro but you can pick up a lot of great weathering techniques

>>95983479
Bladeguard + multiple characters getting move + charge from deep strike...
habeeb it

>>95981371
the current custodes box is the best combat patrol they've ever done

How do I do a warm highlight for black armor on orks? What should my midtone and shadow colors be? I'm getting a bit sick of using incubi darkness and dark reaper

>>95983494
thunderhawk blue / fenrisian grey, or stegadon green / fenrisian grey, although i dont know if thats warm or not. no idea what the shadow colours are, im guessing just black

>>95983494
you should probably try adding a reddish hue instead of a blueish one if you want it warmer

>>95983507
>not cawlling them cawl patterns
>not mentioning the reiver scowls

>>95983507
those helmets look stupid

>>95983332
Rhino

>>95983494
>that chubby eldari girl
The things I'd do to her would make slaanesh blush.

>>95983533
>chubby
Is this what passes as chubby in America or something? She's straight up fat

>>95983507
would I be outcast if I said I think the mutated psyker is more interesting than the marines.

>>95983534
More like obese

>>95983533
>lardness hardness
shame on you

>>95983525

Warhammer 40k - Total RE:Cawl
>I dreamed I was on Mars again...

>>95983507
kek it do be that way
all that's missing is to make the Traitor Sergeant a woman who puts up the strongest fight against the Primaris Reiver squad and you'd have a Black Library novel in the making.

Do loyalists have the ability to make a half human/half space marine army the way that CSM does? Custodes doesn't count.

>>95983534
>fat

more like absolute UNIT

>>95983579
you can use imperial agents allies but you'll never be able to run 200+ human models like CSM can

>>95981024
You're a stereotypical World Eaters collector. Of course you have something to punch on the go.

>>95983579
probably, but they probably just don't, the making of marines is highly regulated and ritualised, as is their concurrent number or any sudden growth.

Does bringing a Magus would make sense against a Rogal Dorn Commander? The possibility of reducing its WS by 1 to negate its order sounds good but it's just too swingy as usual.

>>95983608
how does reducing a rogal dorn's WS to 1 negate its order (which order)?

>>95983608
Well what would be the alternative?

which black library books should i read next? so far I have read the angron book and am currently reading the night lords trilogy. Also on my list is infinite and the divine, and prophet of the waaagh (although i am curious as to how well orks will work in novel form given they aren't known for their eloquence). what should i read next? im willing to try any faction's books

>>95983631
The order improves the WS by 1, Magus reduces hit roll by one so it hits on 4+ again.
>>95983636
We're playing Crusade so I have a Magus in my list so it should be good vs it.

>>95983673
Cadia Falls and Deathworlder are often recommended.
Fire Caste and Day of Ascension are both surprisingly good for Black Library
Valedor and Path of the Dark Eldar are also pretty decent.

>>95983673
Day of Ascension is pretty good for showing how a Genestealer Cults work as well as the internal conflict within an Admech Forgeworld.

anyone got the new space wolves codex?

>>95981314
>Their geneseed is straight up said to be from the Emperor's flesh.
Can't you discern propaganda?

>>95983608
Just kill it. With the big brain and mining laser guys

>>95983690
>>95983673
I second Fire Caste and Day of Ascension. Both are worth reading.

I have read Deathworlder, and while its not terrible, i think you really have to love Catachans to make this book work. I dont mind them, but after a while the constant "catachans are the best at xy" "we are no dumb brutes" "catachans are really good at xy, you know?" becomes tiresome. Most of them are female too, so if that is something that bothers you, this will be a red flag, as big as the biceps of the catachan muscle mommies in that book.
The story itself is not bad, a team of catachans (+ some addon characters) have to reach a research facility on a tyranid infested planet, before the planet is gone.

I would recommend the Bastion Wars Omnibus. All 3 books are quite good, and they read like a military story rather than a 40k story. reason for this is not only that the writer was enlisted in the Australian Forces, but also he got a bit too much "inspiration" from some memoires of some Irak/Afghanistan veterans. Black Library removed him when this was made public. But since he copied from good books, this means his books as a result were also quite good

>>95983673
Valedor is one of the best 40k books ever released.

>>95983771
it's not a 40k book

>>95983771
Look, I love that book too but let's not glaze it that much. It is admittedly cool to have a Xenos v Xenos conflict with such care and detail put into it,b ut it is still a Guy Haley novel and all that that implies.

>>95983673
The OG Night Lord novel "Lord of the Night" is very good.

>>95983780
>Tyranids v Eldar is not 40k
What the hell are you smoking? Are you actually going to argue it's an apocalypse book and that makes it different from 40K?

>>95983789
if it's not marines it's not 40k, simple as

>>95983332
da one with most dakka

>>95983792
The best 40k (and 30k) books do not involve marines for more as side characters.

>>95983792
Based

>>95983780
>>95983792
>The book that got a Warhammer World diorama isn't a 40k book
Lol
Lmao even

what happened to forgeworld? their used to be this cool airborne shit. did they get rolled into the tempestus scions or something?

>>95983708
I tried killing it with the big blob of 20 neophytes + primus and all that other stuff the other day but the damage is too swingy with both mining lasers whiffing at the time. I got a Rockgrinder but hitting on 4+ means it often doesn't hit a thing. I don't recall when was the last time it killed anything with its laser honestly. It's a rough list that I'm facing at 1000pts with Rogal Dorn, Leman Russ Demolisher and a Hellhound but it is what it is.

>>95983858
>got a Warhammer World diorama
that diorama got scrapped to make one with marines

>>95983673
Night lords trilogy
Let the galaxy burn (anthology
Eisenhorn
Dark Eldar trilogy
Eldar trilogy
Gods Demon

>>95983881
That's genuinely disappointing.

>>95983673
Space Marine Ian Watsen.

One of the very first books.

>>95983781
>Guy Haley
Still better than Thorpe and Brooks. Even eldar deserve some good novels

>>95983908
>Eldar trilogy
Don't read these. Only pain and disappointment lie within.

>>95983931
Sounds like the genuine Eldar experience.

>>95983947
Does it have to stay that way?

>>95980442
>51 votes
Wow it would be really cool if we had even half of that in collage submissions.

>>95983982
If the character from another faction wins there's not going to be a lot of submissions desu

>>95983973
The whole Eldar trope is "former empire, is slowly dying without any hope".
So yes, it has to stay that way, because thats their entire thing.

>>95984003
And 40K was a dark future with no hope, only war. Now Space Marines are fucking superheros.
Everything can change as long as there money to be made

>>95984012
The difference is that Space Marines are a faction that matters, anon. Eldar aren't.

>>95983998
I wish terrain had been more popular. If it won even the poorfags could join in.

>reading 40K books
Lol

>>95984031
Audiobooks are a thing Anon.

>>95984003
>The whole Eldar trope is "former empire, is slowly dying without any hope"
Not really, there are 3 hopes
>the hope of having another tomorrow, fought for tooth and nail every day
>the hope for a blazing swan song that kills their nemesis as well as them
>the hope of a dark eldar refresh / exodite subfaction release, as it can be felt

>>95982156
do blood angels drink the blood of their foes? or do they drink untainted human blood only?

>>95984012
Space Marines always were the fucking superheroes.

>>95984045
both

>>95983998
Kitbashed character was the best choice because it's a single model with conversion potential for even poorfags

>>95983982
did you post yours. anon?

>>95983998
so you're rigging the poll by samefagging it?
how fucking lame

>>95983528
The skull helmets are the best part of the otherwise very bland reiver design.

>>95984063
Yup, I was done weeks ago.

>>95984039
>the hope of having another tomorrow, fought for tooth and nail every day
Gone. The Ynnari and their God are dead.
>>the hope for a blazing swan song that kills their nemesis as well as them
Gone. Chaos has already beaten them utterly and completely. Now only the Emperor can stand against the Chaos Gods.
>>the hope of a dark eldar refresh / exodite subfaction release, as it can be felt
Gone. GW has alreqdy turned their focus to Marine supplements.

>>95984030
It'll have its time in the sun

>>95983673
I’ll die on the hill that the Soul Drinkers books are pretty good, and the omnibi are still in print.

>>95984086
what did you paint? unfortunately life got in the way and what ill submit will be 3/4 done

I preordered the angel statue and wanted to make it look half burnt would that look cool or would that drool

>>95984138
You intend on blowing your load over it aren’t you.

>>95983873
Primus with chink on their armour is rather consistent.
Re-roll, lethal hits and pop the crits on 5+, you might was well re roll the 4s and skip the wound rolls all together.

>>95984092
>Gone.
No, you don't need the ynnari for that, their current system could run indefinitely, theoretically; and even the ynnari plotline isn't closed.
>Gone.
No, neither the ynnari plotline, the rhana dandra plotline, or the cegorach plotline are closed.
>Gone.
No, there's solid rumors for corsairs, distant but present ones for exodites, and that anon can feel the dark eldar refresh soon, I trust him.

Also, no supplements are coming for the marines, just the heroes, them's the rumors.

>>95984144
No I intent to use it in kill team or to generally spice up 40k boards beyond L walls and boxes.

>>95984149
Oh an add a ridgerunner for some extra AP. That way even the autoguns are AP-1

>week later
>Noise Marines are still out of stock at local stores and online
Damn do they batch make kits or something?

>>95984178
I guess the factory in China didn't ship enough of them.

>>95984192
GW kits and paints are made locally, they only outsource tools and other garbage.

>>95984192
If they made them in China there wouldn’t be a stock issue like this

Space Marines are cool

>>95984196
>believing the propaganda
Considering recasters are selling models in plastics.
It means they are talking them out of the production line or that chang has injection mold tech in his matchbox apartment

>>95984201
You have never worked with the chang with productions numbers this small have you?

>>95984211
>propaganda
Anon you have to declare where your products come from before they enter the market. Kits and paints are listed as made in UK. GW would be in deep, and I mean DEEP shit if they lied about it.

I had forgotten how fun it was to make an Inquisitor during 4th edition with Witch Hunters
Outside of the regular gear, you get to buy random dudes that give stat buff and abilities to the unit and inquisitor permanently regardless if they die. While also giving each of those model their own unique gear.
All those random models I've collected over the year finally have a use!

>>95984237
You do know that you can finish assembling the product in the uk and claim "made in the uk"

>>95984255
>terrain
GW has the chinks make terrain because quality doesn't matter as much, they've been doing it for years

>>95984237
USA! USA! USA!

>>95984211
There are no plastic recasts on the market

>>95984283
Was about to post this.

>>95984283
>There is no war in Ba Sing Se

>>95984261
Yes, molds are definitely made in China, no arguing that. How do you propose they only "finish assembling" in UK in this case though?
>>95984255
>terrain
>>95984273
Oh yeah I forgot they have factories in US, my bad

>>95980442
is there a collage of most of the models posted yet?

>>95984211
GW briefly had some terrain kits made in china but even those are UK now.

>>95984297
>molds are definitely made in China
I thought GW bought mould making equipment ages ago.

>>95984155
I don't have a ridgerunner yet but I really need to add one. So far I got two of the old combat patrols, a broodcoven and 10 Genestealers. Someone in my playgroup may have a Ridgerunner they may want to get rid of.

>>95984302
Nah, I'll start on the collage tomorrow. Hope we see some last minute entries, there is some time left.

>>95984316
Make one

>>95984325
based

>>95984273
Oh that is why the americans always complain about quality issues. I never understood why.

>>95984325
He could totally make an old school Deodorant Tank!

>>95984381
I just grabbed some old toys, the kids where not playing with any more.
They where mostly metal so I could not be ass to modify them much.

>Sunday preview was sigmar shit
So when are we getting the next 40k stuff?

>>95984389
Your model looks nice! Great use of what you got on hand.

I was just suggesting that the anon in question could make an oldhammer style Deodorant Tank in lieu of a ridgerunner. I could see the Genestealers using one.

>>95984427
It's GSC, not using random models and random crap for your army is like orks not using random crap for their army.
Might as well just play marines

>>95984400
40k reveal at Tacoma in a couple weeks Probably all the new space marine stuff and maybe Votann.

>>95984434
Are you really trying to discourage kitbashing? What is the world coming to when someone cannot make a 40k model from what they have on hand?

>>95984472
>84% of the population do not understand what they read

>>95984472
Are you illiterate?

>>95984444
Call it a hunch, but I get the feeling we'll hear about the Dark Eldar as well.

Are grey knights gay?

>>95984476
>>95984477
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imkDSPD_RwY

>>95984486
the only gay marines are dark angels

>>95984322
I'll just have to submit mine as it is, I can't find any decent lighting in my house atm so I'll take a photo of it tomorrow

>>95984486
marines are inherently gay

Eldar aspect warrior temple for plasma weapons

Ideas?

>>95984561
It's not gay it's brotherhood.

>>95984486
no marines have no sexual drive. You simply mistake comradery for faggotry. Its ok as your just a women and you dont think or ever has felt the deep bond that forms with duty, self sacrifice and honor. Its ok as a animal cant understand to not act upon its emotions a women will never understand what it is to be the foundation of cavillation.

>>95984570
support heavy weapon specialists, the gun emplacement is a plasma mortar
the aspect of khaine is -something something- being the master of the chained vaul -something something-

blazing novas

>>95984570
Shooting Stars. Dark Reaper style heavy unit with handheld starcannons.

>>95984542
>>95984561
>>95984607
Not literally gay, but like figuratively fags

>>95984607
Inside of you there are two Greeks. One of them is a Spartan and the other one an Athenian, both them are gay.

>>95984651
no, literally, they groom little boys, pump their genesperm in them, and lose all interests in women.

>>95984667
Why does the left have to inject their own fantasies into everything?

>>95984638
>>95984650
Seems stars (nova) and heavy weapons come back, no regular plasmaguns?

"Scorching Suns"?

>>95984667
I’m not asking about literally being gay, im asking if the grey knights are a bunch of lame faggot losers or if they’re badass

>>95984389
carnac you don’t have kids you a permavirgin

>>95984674
ntab
>injects his politics into everything

>>95984704
Don’t bother engaging with him.

>>95984687
Oh absolutely, they're also gay in that way.

>>95984476
>>95984477
This is like the third retard in the past 2 threads with no basic reading comprehension, what the fuck is going on

>>95984479
Nah, the Raider is just GW's symbol for Tacoma.

>>95984724
Nooo but they look so good

>>95984687
They look cool but they're OC donut steel, their primarch is the god damn emperor, they're all psykers and they're so secret you kill people who saw them

>>95984680
I mean, what do you want? a third short range melee aspect? a third short range shooting aspect? a third vehicle based aspect? a third flying aspect?

best I can suggest if not a second long range heavy guns aspect is a second medium range guns aspects, making them brothers to the dire avengers.

>>95984736
people make mistakes, for example you must've missed a dosage and are now paranoid about nothing

Besides Space Wolves, which loyalist SM chapters would you say take the prize as the most fucking unhinged psychos?

>>95984762
Why couldn't eldar plasma guns have longer range?

>>95984680
>no regular plasmaguns?
Do Eldar have regular plasma guns? All I've seen are starcannons.

>>95984772
Flesh tearers.

>>95984772
BA and their successors.

>>95984796
To my knowledge they don't, that's why I want to make a new temple

>>95984772
salamanders
>but they're hecking wholesome bois
nothing the fanbase thinks they say holds up to scrutiny, the very elite nature of marines makes all of their "moral" choices hypocritical disasters because they have way larger and far reaching utilitarian consequences.

>"hurray! I felt good and human for wasting 3 days to go save a little girl from under the rubbles"
>meanwhile 3 districts worth of regiments get flattened because the marine wasn't there

>>95984743
Not that anon, but that still makes it an appropriate place for DE reveals even if that’s the case.

>>95984806
But the temples tend to use existing weapons. Shuriken catapults, fusion guns, chainswords, power swords, missile launchers, etc. are found in one form or another elsewhere in the Eldar arsenal.

>>95984772
Minotaurs

>>95984772
Blood Angels are Berzerkers with a thin veneer of civility. I was just looking for info on whether BA drink xenos blood and found an excerpt where Dante is about to execute a xeno begging for mercy and he and a bunch of his allies pounce on it like rabid dogs. The astartes organ to absorb memories kicks in and he realizes the xenos only landed in the planet on accident thinking it was a dead world and were fully intending to leave. He doesn't even processess the memories fully before the thirst takes over again.

>left Dante on read
Based.

>>95984823
Did prism rifle appear somewhere before?

>>95984570
Solar Wardens
>Basics
Heavy armor aspect, features miniature arm-portable Starcannons (Flarecannons) as well as Shimmershields. Eldar Terminator 'equivalent'.
>Lore
Named after ancient whale-like fauna that the Eldar discovered diving in and out of stars, giving the creatures extremely durable hides.
They represent the aspect of Khaine being Asurmen's 'radiant' defender, and his often overlooked dedication to upholding Asurmen's laws. As such also touches on Khaine's punishment of Kurnous and Isha after they broke Asurmen's law, and how he placed them chained together in a 'burning pit'.
>Exarch options
Plasma Pistol w/ Power Spear
Starcannon
Exarch's Flarecannon

>>95984750
I can handle a bit of OC donut steel but the killing anyone that sees them is really fucking silly and lame. A lot of their lore seems to be in that silly and gay vein, especially the sisters incident

>>95984825
I never understood them. Why do we have a chapter that bullies other loyal chapters of their technology and toys? They're literally nepo babies due to their connection with the high lords

>>95984772
Charcarodons/Space Sharks are definitely up there. They're essentially loyalist Night Lords.

>>95984869
"Tend to". FW creations are one thing. Shining Spears would be another thing, since there's no laser lances anywhere else, really. Think there is or was one for knights or titans.

>>95984876
> but the killing anyone that sees them is really fucking silly and lame.
It's a very retarded rule when you consider the scope of the galaxy, the many regiments and chapters who know without being BLAMd, and the fact that their first idea is to kill all witnesses rather than simply going "Wikkity Likkity Pee, You Forgot What You See."

>>95984892
isn't that just Iron Hands

>>95984892
They work directly for the high lords and are iron warriors successor, it's not too surprising
>>95984874
I like a lot of that, Radiant Sperm Whales

What's the flarecannon?
Swooping hawk exarch have the "sun pistol" which is pretty much a hellpistol (las), so "sun" didn't feel right for plasma weapons, but "flare" sounds interesting

Maybe "Star" for basic plasma and "flare" for something else, like flame-template plasma, akin to the Dark Angel plasma burners?

>>95984931
The difference is the Minotaurs actively do it and they take enjoyment out of it. At least the Iron Hands have a philosophy about the weakness of flesh before they turn their serfs into serfitors

>>95984931
Iron Hands are a desperate and down on their luck legions that was groomed by the AdMech into taking an offer they couldn't refuse because daddy was dead and they offered to be their new daddy.

Which loyalist chapter is the LEAST loyal?

>>95984570
Inspired by the image, what if instead of all the heavy starcannons, they were a Destroyer/Seraphim style aspect armed with a pair of plasma pistols (star pistols?) Exarch could have an option for DA Interemptor style plasma flamer.

>>95984953
Ultramarines

>>95984953
Ashen Claws? But they're basically non-chaos renegades with their own hobo separatist mini-empire in Ghoul Stars.

>>95984953
dark angels literally teamkill to keep the secret that half of them went traitor a secret

>>95984957
>destroyer temple
I like that, like a short compact "boost pack" on the upper back/shoulder plates, hopping from place to place striking spots after spots?
Does it have to be plasma pistols?

>>95984829
Will their culture, taste, and beauty outdo their thirst for blood and rage?
>>95984927
Yeah it’s just so silly, like their role as specialists who are low in number and show up to fight demons or when most needed by the inquisition itself is already a cool bordering on Mary sue gimmick, idk why they felt the need to add that considering that working for the inquisition lets you team kill as is
>>95984976
This one is also crazy considering how dumb the secret is lmao

>>95984953
White Scars have always had a difference of opinion with the Imperium at large and mostly keep to the fringes because of that. They're not traitors or dissenters but they're damn close

>>95984976
Didn't HH books and HH game made that entire lore point a meme?
Since now half the legions went traitors, but some chunks of the traitors stay loyal, while some loyalist had chunks that went traitor?

>>95984987
>they're damn close
They're really not.

>>95984570
Eldar just got their big wave, back off for a few editions.

>>95985000
The lion returning didn't help either

>>95984814
Nice bait.

>>95985009
Does a refresh of old models really count as a big wave? When's the last time they got anything new that wasn't Ynnari?

>>95985025
>Does a refresh of old models really count as a big wave?
this is why nobody likes eldarfags

>>95985025
You got a new Not-Primarch with this wave. Be glad.

>>95985037
Ah yes. How could I forget Like-Us the new loreless wonder. Definitely one of the characters of all time.

>>95985051
and a more interesting design than literally any other eldar sculpt
stop whining

>>95985051
If you wanted characrers who matter then you shouldn't have picked an NPC faction, anon.

>>95984814
what else does a space marine EA believe

Where is the monthly collage?

>>95985025
>Does a refresh of old models really count as a big wave?
Yes

>>95985078
it's 10 am calm down

>>95984950
>they take enjoyment out of it
>At least the Iron Hands have a philosophy
One of their scout sergeants delivered a speech about how he resigned his position as a sergeant in the veteran company because the only thing he enjoys in life is making other people suffer, which made the scout company a natural fit for him. They're very much capable of sadism.

>>95984976
>lose half your men to the heresy and your homeplanet
>primarch still loyal and it's the biggest legion so they mostly still have a grip on things
>BUT NOBODY CAN FIND OUT ABOUT THIS
>proceed to go on a big stupid vengeance quest to redeem their honor, outright ignoring orders and warcrimeing allies to make it happen
>basically fully willing to be disloyal to make up for disloyalty and disloyally kill anyone who finds out about their disloyalty and only being loyal as a front
They're such fucking dorks. I love them.

>>95985066
The only thing marines have to do is follow orders. There are larger, more knowledgeable and better suited organisations to determine the ideal application of power of marines on the war fronts.
Regardless of whether said organisations are infallible or not, or technically commanding the marines or not, the marines should listen to them and follow their orders.

>>95985111
holy retardoly

>>95985111
I love the old stories about marines talking the initiative and turbo fucking a planet for generations because of their stupidity.
From an outsider point of view did the planet got attacked by some random chaos space marine warband or loyalist marines? No one can tell because the end result is almost the same one.

>>95984980
Off-shoot of the Warp Spider filament guns, firing nano wires to enable them to swing around like spiderman while blasting with two guns. Work like the primaris grapnel guns.
>Does it have to be plasma pistols?
What else could it be if we're making a gunslinging plasma aspect?

>>95985138
Vortex pistols

Why do Eldarfags have this overinflated sense of importance?

>>95985171
Eldar players are Warhammers most intelligent community so obviously they will have bigger egos.

>>95985171
Because you make your boogeymen from a projection of yourself.

>>95985189
If they were intelligent they wouldn't play Eldar.

>>95985189
If they were intelligent they wouldn't pick poorly done raygun elves who are designated to lose harder than anybody else in the setting

>>95985171
>eldarfags discuss eldar
>someone goes "you got your refresh, fuck off"
somehow eldarfags are the problem

Many such case

>>95984984
>This one is also crazy considering how dumb the secret is lmao
>>95985000
>Didn't HH books and HH game made that entire lore point a meme?
The *actual* reason why it was a big deal was the implication that the current Dark Angels aren't descended from the loyalist Dark Angels at all, but traitors who sided with Luthor who repented and now hunt the other fallen in order to hide that fact

Of course, with the new Lion lore this was completely thrown out so it's just stupid again

>>95985212
>eldarfags discuss eldar
not what happened, he went 'erm, these 6 new kits don't count as a refresh because they're just the old kits updated where's our ACTUAL refresh???'

>>95985222
Lol no
1) >>95984570
2)>>95985009
3)>>95985025
And somehow eldarfags are the problem

You can rewrite history in your head, now keep it there

>>95985233
>inb4 this guy plays space marines