>playable races
Remove all of them except Human, Dwarf, Elf, and Halfling. Orcs, goblins and the like still exist but they're monstrous and they can never be playable.

>classes
Remove all except for Fighter, Rogue, Cleric, and Wizard. No more subclasses. Subclass style abilities are just feats.

>combat
Far more lethal and scarier. Hit points are miniscule, the most powerful of ancient monsters shouldn't have more than 60-70 hp, and high level characters should never have more than 20-40 hp depending on their class. Going down isn't just a funny little nap instacured by healing word, dropping to 0 creates long-term or permanent injuries that require intensive tending or powerful healing to make right.

>magic
Fewer spells, more versatility within them. Command, for example, can easily contain Hold Person and Tasha's Hideous Laughter and Sleep effects. More emphasis on having everything more or less available at level 1, but casting with higher slots opens more options, bigger AOE, damage, targets, etc. A level 1 fireball is 1d6 with 5ft radius, level 4 4d6 with 20ft.

>storytelling
Held to an absolute minimum. You don't need a storyteller to talk for hours on end about how Satan's anus demons exploded out of Mt. Moneyshot and now you have to seal them in the mystical treasure spheres in order to assemble the mystical anal-bead chain to close it off again, with hours of storyteller pontification and theater kid conversations between mere minutes of actual combat. You can just play the game.

There's a lot more finer details but those are the biggest changes that would result in an immediate and much better game. You simply can't disprove this (inb4 whining by freakshit lovers, storyshitters, theater kids).

shut the fuck up, bro

>>95985787 (OP)
Not your personal homebrew blog, dipshit

>hello everyone I am 16 and have just recently discovered OSR

Isn’t it funny how everyone who declares that they have the formula to fixing D&D presents a different set of changes?

>>95985818
>>95985806
>>95985833
>>95985841
Do you have any arguments or are you just going to make snippy remarks like a woman that subconsciously wants to be put in her place?

>>95985806
>>95985818
>>95985833
>>95985841
Do you have any arguments or are you just going to make snappy remarks like a woman that subconsciously wants to be put in her place?

>>95985901
>Posts the same bullshit lets fix D&D threat on a board notorious for hating all things D&D
>Gets called a fag
>Acts like a fag
I don't say this lightly, as it has sometimes been grounds for a vacation, but you don't belong here. You are a redditer through-and-through. Go back to your shit sty of a site and stream your suicide.

>>95985787 (OP)
hytnpdnd

>>95985935
Why do you act like this? Doesn't your boyfriend fuck you enough? Or are you a freakshit loving theater kid that uses the hobby to roleplay his fantasies of being an anthropomorphic animal and having "cooking competitions" or whatever the fuck modern DnD is about.

>>95985953
>just let your favourite game go to shit bro
Are you brown, by any chance?

>>95985787 (OP)
____ YOU _____ _O_ _______ _&_?
you really don't need to be desperate to "fix" dnd
just play any of the hundreds of other fantasy ttrpgs

>>95986122
>just let your favourite game go to shit bro
nigger it was always shit

>>95986123
Your apathy towards fixing the most important, genre-defining ttrpg signals that you are a passive, low-value man, that is okay with watching his favourite things get fucked beyond recognition. You exist to be stepped on and exploited.
I should not have to play gay knockoffs or half-baked homebrew dogshit. I want to SAVE D&D and then PLAY IT.

>>95985787 (OP)
I’m pretty sure there’s a version of the game that already exists that meets most of your points. Why not play that instead?

>>95986148
>popular thing bad
>unpopular thing good
>t. faggot that hates society and is unpopular
The cry of the eternal outcast circus freak. Grow up. You cannot reasonably argue that AD&D was bad.

>>95986122
Why do you keep spamming shit threads?

>>95986122
>D&d is my favorite game!
>Every single one of my complaints has been a part of the game the entire time I've been alive!

Why is your "favorite game" something you so thoroughly hate?

>>95985787 (OP)
So 5e Basic Rules?

>>95986122
Did I hit a nerve little redditfag?
>favourite game
Get better taste bongcuck

>>95985787 (OP)
Or maybe play a better system instead of being a petty little bitch about it

>>95986192
Go cry at the mods to ban me for having a differing opinion. This place is an echo chamber. Nogames freak.

>>95986195
>Every single one of my complaints has been a part of the game the entire time I've been alive!
Completely and utterly untrue. AD&D wasn't endless roleplay session with theater kids that want to play a super special tiefling with heterochromia, that has a super special class combination and 1000 spells.

>>95986215
5e is about cookouts and LGBTQ worship. It's barely a game.

>>95986249
>just abandon your favourite game bro and let it get fucked beyond recognition bro
Are you a cuckold, perchance? Can I use your wife?

>>95986258
Considering you didn’t do the sane thing and just continue to play an edition that you actually enjoy instead of continuing to pay for more corpo slop while whining about it to a Mongolian basket weaving forum, I don’t think my wife would be interested in a gelding like you either way

>>95986251
Skills and Powers came out 30 years ago, larper. Dragonlance came out 40 years ago. No fuckin' way you're in your 40s. If you want to play 1e, go play 1e, it's readily available. But don't act like you're nostalgic for something you absolutely never experienced first hand.

>>95986278
STOP and PROVE to me that the RATIONAL ARGUMENTS in the OP would not save D&D. You know they would, which is why you are trolling.
Everyone ITT besides me is trolling, it's literally impossible to have a high quality discussion thread on /tg/.

>>95985935
>You are a redditer through-and-through.
The board has been taken over by reddit users like puckee

>>95986303
>it's literally impossible to have a high quality discussion thread on /tg/
this is true (on all tg/rpg related forums, really) except unfortunately OP is also trolling.

>>95986251
Tieflings are from 2e
Class kits are from 2e
I've seen ocs with heterochromia since the early days of the internet, late 2e/3e
Can't find a 100 percent accurate count, but 2e had just under 500 spells. 5e has just over 500. So, the amount of spells in the game has stayed pretty consistent.

Face it bro, you just don't like d&d.

>>95986303
Anon, if you like AD&D, there’s nothing to save because it is right. Fucking. There. Go play it.

>>95986294
>the game was always a roleplay fest for theater kids and homosexuals, because... because it JUST WAS, okay?
>nevermind all the classic cRPGs it inspired that are nothing like what I'm describing
>nevermind how it was played even as late as in the 90s, when it was still considered niche
I bet you self-insert as your character and list the SSRIs you take in your inventory. Your revisionism has contributed to the game's destruction.

>>95986344
>>nevermind all the classic cRPGs it inspired
Oh, so you're a filthy fuckin' secondary?

>>95986159
You seem to think that D&D became the way that it is now spontaneously, for no reason whatsoever, which shows you to be a fool. It became this way in response to the desires of the majority of purchasers and players.
>but if you change the game THEY will also ch—
Demonstrably bullshit. The only reason Pathfinder exists at all is that the people playing D&D didn’t like the new edition. The same sort of thing would happen if you implemented your changes.
>I dont care! The integrity of D&D as an iconic brand is more important!
If D&D were to fade into obscurity, it would cease being as “genre-defining” as you seem to believe it is. It would become a historical curiosity discussed as one of the early influences on fantasy as a genre. What it would not do is redefine that genre.

>>95986334
Horrid thing is that there are far too many who are just like OP, but they’re far less articulate than the trolls are

>>95986338
>D&D was ALWAYS just like picrelated bro, I swear bro, your own experiences are lying to you bro

>>95986334
I am the only serious person in this thread.

>>95985787 (OP)
Do you have any arguments or are you just going to make snappy remarks like a woman that subconsciously wants to be put in her place?

>>95986344
>classic cRPGs
You mean the classic crpg where you play as the super secret son of a god? Or the classic crpg where you play as a super special immortal and get a weird party of crazy oc characters?

>>95986363
You don't have any experiences. You don't play games.

Prove me wrong, post some 1e or 2e character sheets.

>>95985901
>He said, while making snappy remarks.
Holy projecting.

>>95985901
>If you are aggressive to me, you are being LIKE A WOMAN
Stop being a passive aggressive bitch.

>>95986371
>BG has only grounded characters, outside of one (1).
>Planescape Torment's characters can be weirder than usual, because of the SETTING. Even then, they are extremely tame compared to the average modern party, which is riddled with super special Sha'darkai, gay tieflings, nonbinary transrace circus freaks and other unholy creatures that belong in STAR WARS, not in D&D.

>>95986376
Sheets attached.

>>95986410
Lamest troll so far, can’t even air generate a fake

>>95986405
>>95986395
Cry more. Do you have any rational arguments or meaningful contributions to the discussion? Trolling is prohibited outside of /b/.

>>95986425
>meaningful contributions
>in a troll thread

I'm glad you liked my rant about anus demons, but you didn't need to copypaste it to falseflag as someone who enjoys games.

>>95986472
>if I disagree, it's a TROLL THREAD
Maybe WOTC was right. Maybe the game does need to be dumbed down for drooling, braindead modern audiences.


>>95986483
? I wrote that.

>>95986507
>I wrote that.
Nope.
I wrote that as part of a response to any thread insisting that narrative, story, and plot focus is the only way to roleplay.

>>95986507
You make the same thread every day, of course it's a troll thread.
It's the only way you can get social interaction.

>>95986507
I doubt you've ever played D&D or any rpg for that matter. Everything described in OP sounds like some dink's understanding of Talisman, and not a very informed one at that.

>>95986191
OP, your OP is all about complaining about how popular thing is bad and suggesting unpopular changes to it. You're free to like and dislike whatever you want, but please, try to have at least a bit of self-awareness.

>>95986122
>DnDrone calling others theater kids and freakshit lovers

>>95986615
>unironic use of "DnDrone" and "Freakshit"

This thread is just trolling, all the way down.

>>95986258
>> just abandon your favourite game bro and let it get fucked beyond recognition bro
Yes, dumbass.
D&D is a brand. A product. It is not your fucking identity. You don't need to stick with it, you don't need to "Fix" it.
You don't love D&D the brand. You love the feeling you get while playing it. Pursuit that. Play better games. Don't give them your money or time or attention. Laugh at them when they shut the bed, confident in yourself that you don't waste your time playing garbage systems made by garbage people who hate you.

Nothing's stopping you from playing B/X. There's an entire community about only playing that version of the game. Go there and stay there, kthxbai

>>95986536
>BAIT! BAIT! I SEE THIS THREAD EVERY DAY!
Meds, now

>>95986533
What are you talking about? I literally just typed that out. What's your goal here?

>>95986845
If I fuck your wife, will you just 'not give me your attention'? How much of a cuckold are you? D&D is THE gold standard in ttrpgs, and you're too much of a faggot to try to fix it.

>>95986871
>if you hate modern vidya, nothing is stopping you from playing Half Life 2 bro
>therefore, hating modern Call of Duty is wrong
You are braindead. I bet you're a minimum wage slave. An actual neofeudal peasant poorfag ruled by sklavenmoral.

>>95985787 (OP)
>>95955556

>>95986970
That thread might be more cancerous than this one.

>>95986940
Like a gelding like you has even seen your cock outside of its cage, much less understood what makes a fun ttrpg since you only ever play d&d like the masochistic eunuch paypig that you are

Shittiest thread on /tg/ right now with the most retarded OP. Quite an achievement
>>95986615
>>95986666
It must be worked on.

>>95987077
>in one stroke, manages to make the worst post in the entire thread
You have a gift.
Also please leave this board permanently and preferably through some painful way.

>>95986940
>D&D is THE gold standard in ttrpgs
Then why does it need fixing?
If it used to be good, then play that edition. If it's good now, it doesn't need to be fixed. If it was never good, then why remain attached to it?
Also, by the sounds of your changes you'd enjoy HeroQuest or Talisman much more than D&D.

>>95985787 (OP)
So OSR by a tard who has no idea what early D&D was like?
>>95985953
>>95986249
>>95986123
If you played tabletop games you would know what OP the nogames is whining about exists in other games

>>95985787 (OP)
How did your last session go with these house rules?

>>95989295
He's never tried them.

>>95988569
>If you played tabletop games you would know what OP the nogames is whining about exists in other games
So? You know there are more than two games in existence. Just pick one that fits your bill.

>>95985787 (OP)
>HOW TO FIX D&D
stopped reading. more like "how to change DnD to be more to my tastes"
which is the whole point of it being an rpg with a DM and not a board game, stupid nigger. you got smoked in the first 4 replies.

>>95985787 (OP)
epic work brony

>>95986940
> I literally just typed that out.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/Mt.%20Moneyshot/
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95391003/#95393386
Lie harder, you fucking waste of space.

>>95986363
Beside the wheelchair (it could be in some pre 5e book somewhere but nothing comes to mind) yes D&D had in one way or other all the stuff retarded nogames like you get upset about for dumb reasons.

>>95985787 (OP)
Your "fix" to player races is just a concession to hysterical retards all over youtube and this gay fucking board that think being anything other than a human makes you a woke furry. Your "fix" to classes removes all sense of character from the magic and cosmology of DnD and nearly all sense of variety from not being a spellcaster. Your "fix" to magic is... surprisingly reasonable? It's what people like about warlock I suppose, wouldn't hurt. Your "fix" to storytelling makes up for that by being twice as retarded and yet another concession to just whatever absurd nonsense you've been using to build your opinions about DnD. This board is just a horrible quagmire of people who hate fun and I don't know how any of you take it seriously.

>>95985901
>do you have any arguments
Yes. My argument is that your arguments are shit.

>>95986258
>abandon
by playing earlier better editions?
>let it get fucked
by not using a power you don't have to shift the corporate and cultural zeitgeist away from woke bullshit by being autistic over a ttrpg? You're dressing up being too lazy to look for alternatives as a kind of bravery and no one is falling for it and this entire thread is just you getting increasingly mentally ill over your failure to cope with that. Your changes are lame and gay and no one would ever let you make them. Blame it on the phantom army of LGBT freaks that are on different platforms entirely doing their bullshit all you want, you just failed.