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UB Edition

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TQ: Post your favorite decks, and your thoughts on the last anon who posted theirs.

Any other commanders that can give a fresh take on goblins?

>>95986644 (OP)
Honestly, I wouldn't mind Power Rangers.

>>95986674
for me it's Benito

>>95986665
I've been wanting to try Thromok goblins. Think it be kind of cool being able to go wide and overwhelm with an army of goblins or switch it up and devour the goblins for a single massive swing when needed. Devour x looks like it would get out of hand fast with enough goblins.

>>95986704
There's a few Thromok decks at my LGS and they all play exactly the same: Devour a bunch of creatures -> Fling/Chandra's Ignition. It's a cool idea at first, but man it just seems so boringly linear

>>95986644 (OP)
This is 20 years old now

>>95986679
I never understood why a single real world figure was tossed in.

>>95986752
Fair. Thromok does seem the kind that lends itself to similar enders and play styles. It's designed to do the one thing. More than most. Part of why I thought maybe goblins would be decent. You could do the goblin tribal stuff or throw the worm when needed. But you'll probably end up leaning more towards one or the other as the deck gets refined.

>>95986655
they need to bring back textless full arts for more than just memes like Urza's Saga (forma de land)

>>95986829
>Shaq
>Aaron Carter
>Abraham Lincoln
>Jackie Chan
>Chuck Norris
>The Rock
>Hulk Hogan
>Mr. Rogers in a bloodstained sweater

>>95986934
None of those people are real

would a 1 mana add 1 colorless rock be an auto include like sol ring is

this sword punches way above its weight in three color decks and you're a fool if you're not running it

commander for this feel?

>>95986934
Like five of those are characters played by entertainers.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>95986956
I feel so too. too bad I have no legend that cares enough to be protected or buffed

i dont like playing blue or draw pass, would she be decent as an enchantress commander with lots of drain effects

>>95986955
Obviously, yes.

>>95982224
You responded to the cast trigger of fractured identity with a board wipe, so you lose and nobody else loses ironically enough. In order:
>Tempest of Light resolves
>Fractured Identity resolves
>STATE BASED ACTION - Nine Lives leaves the battlefield, you lose the game

>>95987061
Nine Lives causing you to lose the game is a triggered ability, not a state-based action.

>>95987070
It's UBslop tourist season in this thread, you can't expect competent cards evaluating.

>>95987159
Almost as bad as bloomburrow tourist season

>>95987159
>season
more like eternal summer

>I'm going to put super state on Mr Rogers, and then sacrifice my jiffy lube token to give him 5 +1/+1 counters and equip him with Zordon's asshole, giving him protection from doritos locos and blue. I'm going to tap Morpheus to make him the one, and I'll have him fight spongebob

>>95987167
You forgot Pic n save and subaru

im glad the next set is real magic

>>95987186
when is the UB Cross over?

>>95987167
I negate with Its Morbin' Time

I flash in instant ramen

>>95987186
its canon to magic anon its not UB

>>95987167
I block with not-Saruman
I mean Urza.

>>95987289
dang you replied to wrong anon but I still loled

>>95987307
like i can understand disliking UB cards when they dont fit like spongebob and doctor who, but aetherdrift and spaceships seems just as bad
also having mechanics or traits exclusive to UB cards is awful

>>95987339
Space is open for a lot of cool ideas. Race cars aren't.

>>95987339
it's a false dichotomy that disliking UB as a concept means you must automatically like every UW set

Can he be a reasonable low bracket 3 deck, or is he just too much value and I should build Ygra instead?

>>95987343
i havent been playing for that long but im not sure how edge of eternities fits, the only stories and aesthetics i know is like innistrad and sorin stuff

>>95987362
I don't care if it fits. It is retarded to compare "wacky racers" with SPACE as if they have equal shit to explore or make a set of.

Picking this up while it's still flying under the radar. There's hundreds different commanders that want this. It's gonna sit and passively climb with no reprints as these types of precon cards tend to do.

>>95987368
they're both not Magic

>>95987376
I can't think of a single Commander that wants this

>>95987392
Works great in my Zul Ashur deck

>>95987392
then you're a complete and total idiot, any commander that futzes around with the graveyard loves it

>>95987376
>already $7
I don't think it's flying under the radar as much as you think

>>95987289
I hate that Battlebond and March of the Machine established precedent for this kind of stupid neon weaponry.

>>95987339
I dislike all UB cards. I also dislike Thunder Junction, Duskmourn, Aetherdrift, and Edge of Eternities. MKM was also a fucking travesty.

Tarkir and Bloomburrow were fucking great.

>>95987376
>Do thing draw a card
>It's ok when it's not on a commander!

>>95987339
>having mechanics or traits exclusive to UB cards is awful
yeaah, this is not sadly exclusive to UB tho. it feels like every set has a mechanic never to be revisited and now we have shit like
2 day/nights
morph/disguise
venture/initiative
foretell/plot
and all these super specific mechanics that are only separated because muh flavor

>>95987452
yes, correct. Because a commander is always in your hand and can always be recast if removed, and a card in the 99 isn't and can't

>>95987452
>>It's ok when it's not on a commander!
Yes.

>>95987376
this but got it at release for under a fiver

>>95987452
Card draw engines exist, get over it UBfag.

>>95987476
Jokes on you I only play Gruul and Boros

>>95987376
People also sleeping on renewed solidarity imo
>>95987392
I understand that it's hip with you kids these days to be play stupid but this basically reads "the first time you dredge instead dredge twice and make a treasure" in necrobloom

r8 my boy, he feels a little slower than I'd like in goldfishing
https://archidekt.com/decks/14171064/neriv_sneak_attack_tribal

>>95987547
>Dredge twice
... Huh?

>>95987289
What are the color combos/general gimmicks of the set?

>>95987547
>"the first time you dredge instead dredge twice and make a treasure" in necrobloom
Are you fucking retarded?

>>95987547
Do you understand the irony of you saying
>I understand that it's hip with you kids these days to be play stupid
And then saying something completely wrong that shows you don't understand the card

>>95987565
it's generally safe to assume a Necrobloom deck is going to have more than two lands in the graveyard at any given time

>>95987565
it adds "draw a card" and since all of your land cards have dredge, you get to dredge again and THEN you make a treasure on the second one since you can't pick to draw again

>>95987580
>>95987573
>>95987565
>being this retarded
>Dredge a land (this is a card leaving your graveyard)
>trigger Teval's Judgement
>choose to Draw a Card
>replace that draw by Dredging another land
>this is another card leaving your graveyard
>choose to create a treasure token
wow that was so complicated

>>95987567
>lands are important
>vehicles but this time they'll be good we swear
>and also Eldrazi because fuck you

>>95987595
>you see, i'm assuming a game state/board that everyone else doesn't, so when i trick them it makes me look smart!!!

>>95987608
>there are a total of 2 lands in my graveyard
>in the Necrobloom
>this is a confusing or hard to achieve boardstate
You're flailing, deep breaths retard. You misread the card, it happens.

>>95987608
are you the same guy who thought Nine Lives is a state-based action

I didn't realize we had so many gravelets in this thread. Stick to your craw wurms, freshies.

>>95987626
based

>>95987608
>game state/board that everyone else doesn't
the nigga literally said "in necrobloom" so wouldn't it logically assume that Necrobloom is in play/relevant to the discussion? Are you braindead? You're approaching tripfag levels of retarded here.

>>95987626
are you even playing the game if your graveyard isn't bigger than your deck

>>95987597
>Eldrazi

That's surprising. I havn't bothered to keep up with the lore but I thought they were sealed in Innistrad's moon

>>95987615
>>95987634
>doesn't state more than 1 land is in the graveyard
>acts smug when people don't take "more than 1 land in the graveyard" into consideration.
Real dipshit ass burger hours at the moment, hm?

>>95987649
IT'S THE FUCKING NECROBLOOM
IT'S GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE LAND IN THE GRAVEYARD

>>95987661
see >>95987608

>>95987648
Ulamog and Kozilek were "killed" but it was probably just temporary physical forms destroyed. Emrakul is in the moon and WOTC forgot about her

>>95987666
>you see, I have no idea how any deck functions on even a basic level, even after reading the card, so I'm going to assume everyone else is as clueless as I am

>>95987565
>>95987580
I'll explain this in simple terms since I'm sure you both had a long day at Special Summer Camp
>have Teval's and Necrobloom out and several lands in grave
>draw step occurs
>I get to choose to draw or activate a dredge ability in my grave
>I dredge
>a card is leaving my grave
>Teval's triggers
>Choose draw mode
>get to dredge again
>a card is leaving my grave again
>This is a separate instance of a card leaving the grave
>choose the treasure mode
I have no dredged twice and made a treasure where I would have dredged once before. I hope this helps, I know retards have trouble with abstract concepts and non-literal thinking

This is like all of the spergs last thread saying "shadow is busted because *assumed board state*"

>>95987648
that was the last we heard of them but they're back now because the in-universe story is just going to be stuck on a loop of Bolas>Phyrexians>Eldrazi from now until the game dies.

>>95987686
>no one ever runs mana rocks or artifact lands!
>and they'll especially never run mana rocks or artifact lands in a deck that specifically goes apeshit with mana produced by artifacts!

>>95987673
If you don't explicitly say what the board set up is, you don't get to clown on others for not understanding your shitty combo. Shrimple as.

>>95987698
>if you don't go into explicit and excruciating detail on something most people will be able to take as read from the context, how will I ever understand anything?
>not that I'll understand even when you explain, but I'll get mad anyway

>>95987709
Give it a rest and take the L

>>95987712
>take the L!!!!
I soi'd hard

>>95987712
>I'm bleeding, making me the victor.

>>95987720
>N-no you lost!!!
Lol

>>95987712

>>95987743
Literally you kek

>>95987712
>I'm not owned! I'm not owned! I say as I shrink into a corn cob

>>95987753
>>95987743
>>95987721
>>95987720
Samefag (you) can stop now

>>95987759
I was only two of those posts.

>>95987770
but then who was phone?

>>95987672
Funny with all the bullshit of Ugin talking about how bad it would be if they jacetice Friends somehow killed them off but it seems like they can't be perma-killed.

Regardless, I only really like the art and don't care for any deeper lore about the planeswalkers themselves.

>>95987289
>strong black woman leader type legend

https://moxfield.com/decks/uDIPhW89FkiNNFQ6nmVZXQ

I have no idea what I am doing
Could I kindly get some assistance? Aiming for bracket 3 and I can splurge some upgrades.

>>95987859
we don't talk about decks here, only sperg out on retarded bait and complain about people complaining about UB

>>95987868
I complain about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about UB

So did anyone actually do that Gay "everyone has partner" thing or was it all one big LARP?

>>95987936
it wasn't even acknowledged at my LGS on the actual day of the pride parade

>>95987554
Looking good so far. Though I'll admit I think mass hysteria may be a bit too risky. Giving decks that don't normally have haste haste can give your opponents uniquely situated advantages.

>>95987672
What was Ulalek supposed to be? Did they actually fuse in the story or was it just a possibility?

>>95988003
just a what-if fanfiction for MH3

>>95987948
i was gonna bring my meld deck but my shop didnt run it

>>95988012
Pretty sure he's their baby

>>95988051
Melds with Should just be like "partner with" desu

>>95988064
objectively correct opinion

>>95987936
Not really. There could be some interesting combinations but it seems like too much work breaking down two decks that could work together for one event.

>>95987859
You got the right idea, I would maybe cut goblinslide for a virtue of strength. You're running a lot of big x spells and want to cast them for big value. If you're new to deck building in commander I would say the top 3 things to consider when brewing are
>"what's the bare minimum this deck should be able to do 90% of games?"
>"how do I want to accomplish that?"
>"how can account for having two extra opponents?"

>>95988064
i have them rule 0'd together, since before i melded once the entire time i had my angel tribal

>>95987985
any thoughts on what to replace it with? Three-drop slot is already pretty crowded when considering the one-sided haste anthems and I don't have a way to reliably pitch Anger.

>>95988051
I have no idea why that isn't the case already. Feels like that should have been the first change these cars types got.

>>95988083
Basically I wanted a goblin deck with multiple game plans, so some games I might flood the board, but other games I might just one shot them out of nowhere with X spells

>>95988129
You are in red so maybe some of the cheaper discard one draw two spells? Maybe also the ones that give treasures too for future turns. And something like a Sun Titan could do well to bring back both creatures and other permanents that are in curve later in the game. You want to be attacking so the attack trigger would be useful too.

>>95987936
got focused hard, fuck these gay events

>>95987936

>>95987859
Why not add Dualcaster Mage and Seedtime and be a soft Bracket 4 deck?

>want to play tall creatures
>can't because every retard is instantly removing the scary 7/7 trample instead of hindering the burn and the combo players from going off
I feel like I can only win by slowly building a board of shit that nobody wants to interact with, and then launch a nuke that nobody sees coming.

>>95988268
>burn
>in EDH

>>95988281
basically what a group slug deck is

>Want to play spellslinger
>Can't because every retard is instantly removing the scary 3/4 "make one treasure on your upkeep" instead of hindering the 30/30 from hitting face
I feel like I can only win by slowly building a board of shit that nobody wants to interact with, and then launch a nuke that nobody sees coming.

>>95988281
What do you think impact tremors is?

>>95988268
Just play protection for your big creatures dumbass? 1 mana for Tyvar's Stand costs much less than another 6 mana for another fatty.

>>95988281
It's actually pretty fun, card draw sucks ass though

>>95988281
>he never played against norin, purphoros or ojer axonil
I envy your blissful ignorance

>>95988308
nigga I'm running 9 protection spells and in the last 10+ games I drew one per game on average, the fuck am I supposed to do, ditch all interaction for protection?

>>95988323
YOU NEED CARD DRAW DRUG.

>>95988315
Norin is so dogshit, why do people hype him up? 1 enter per turn, wooooow

>>95988334
lmao this retard

>>95988315
I have been killed by Norin mill

>>95988334
AHAHA I HAVE NORIN AND IMPACT TREMORS PREPARE TO LOSE SCRUBS

>>95988323
>I'm running 9 protection spells and in the last 10+ games I drew one per game on average
Jesus run more card draw. I have 4-5 mana rocks in my decks and I'll see at least 2 in nearly every game

>>95988334
Bait or mental retardation? Call it.

>>95988342
>>95988334
>he said, while taking 32 damage from just one round, and norin getting ready to drop 5 rats for another 40 damage
the only question is, what are some newfags like you doing ITT?

>>95988397
>He's even making new rat
MY LOXODON IS NO MATCH FOR THAT... I NEED MORE LIFE POINTS.

>>95988332
>>95988344
>15 draw
>2 tutors
I'm at my limit. I'm also running 38 lands and 18+ ramp, and when goldfishing on moxfield, I have to mulligan 3-4 times to get a a 2-3 land hand with 1 ramp, this shit is driving me insane

Say hi to the next commander that's gonna make you rage

>>95988415
What is rage inducing about this desu

>>95988403
why are you even playing commander again, anon?

>>95988415
I think I would be happy to see this desu

How did they fuck up Yuffie this hard. Her art/face looks shit and her bility is questionable

>>95987368
>>95987343
Aether drifts idea was fine but no block means no tension or time to show race characters and teams and since you know who wins why give two fucks about the other new teams?

>>95988437
how is she spinning that shuriken without cutting herself in half

>>95988415
he cute :3

>>95988437
>cuck someone out of their Sol Ring
Not as bad as you think

>>95988459
That's what I wanted to know

Give me Endless GF not Edgeless BF FACT

How good is he as a commander? he seems fun

>>95988482
He's great if you like birds
If you don't, don't build him
Birds are cool but most are bad

>>95988462
Huge fan of Dack, Thieving Skydiver, and Hostage Taker. Feels great when you take a signet from someone who kept a sketchy hand in their 36 land deck and they're just out of the game while you pull ahead.

>>95988482
most birds are pretty bad so unless you really want to do bird tribal for some reason, not great

>>95988469
Isn't there an entire "race" of people who replace their bodies with magic metal? Seems like a perfect group to go fucking around in magic space.

>>95988423
I MAKE NEW RAT

>>95988412
Post list

>>95988505
more rat bites

>>95988513
https://moxfield.com/decks/Jfsgd3DpskCkDkdXz7NfVw
no bully pls

>>95988523
whew

Is this nigga really as hated as people say? I've got a specific idea for a deck floating around for a while and this seems like the best commander for it.

>>95988588
Idk about hated but I found it boring af

>>95987554
I don't think tokens are a very good strategy for Neriv. Not really sneak attack tribal when most of your creatures aren't even worth sneak attacking in. I was actually working on a Neriv deck myself going a completely different route running Lightning Skelemental, Blistering Firecat and some other Ball Lightning type creatures. My thought was I want to make the absolute most I can out of the double damage so I'm forgoing tokens entirely. As far as more thoughts on your deck I think Whip is a bad card, Pandemonium will bit you in the ass and I really think you're going on two directions with tokens stuff AND nontoken sneak attack threats. Pick one. Also more ramp and as always run Liquimetal Torque and Abrade/Shenanigans etc.

>>95988469
We're getting Endless Legend 2. Thats enough for me.

>>95988516
this vexes me

She seems really cool as a commander. FF really has added a lot of cool new commanders to the scene. Though I guess with the amount of commanders in the set in general you will get some really good ones and some stinkers

>>95988604
hm yes, I was feeling the pull in two directions. But I figured the Mobilize fellas would be there for early(ish) pressure while the big guys are getting built up to (and I like Mobilize). But I'll fiddle with it more.

>>95988523
Initial, unsorted thoughts:

The main issue I'm seeing with this deck is that there's a very large number of "win more" cards like Zopandrel and Twinflame Tyrant. Your commander is already a doubler that's hard to remove so you should be looking for more big bodies to put down instead of things that make already big bodies larger. That will in-turn likely cascade (har har) outward to improving your green draw options to be online more consistently.
Also I feel you're overcounting your draw options by including MDFCs. Disciple of Freyalise for example is genuinely awful on its front side being 6 mana sorcery speed Momentous Fall, and just the draw is worth 2 mana with Life's Legacy. If you're playing OneBigBody.dek you have a very large assortment of draw options available that I'd recommend like Soul's Majesty, or Return of the Wildspeaker.
As a rule of thumb I'd only run 3-4 finisher/doubler-type cards at most because they're only good when you have advantage and are looking to close the game (at which point you should ideally have enough card advantage to find them fairly consistently).
Your ramp package is a bit underwhelming. You could probably invest a bit more in "play extra land" type cards such as Exploration or Sakura-Tribe Scout to both assist you in ramp for the whole game, and get excess lands out of your hand after an explosive draw turn. You're in green so there's no shortage of 1-drop ramp options.

>>95988636
If you like mobilize lean into it more and ditch the ball lightning/sneak attack stuff. Impact Tremors and the two BLB and MKM versions they printed. That also offers more synergy with ETB and blink stuff.

Heres the first draft I made of mine. The physical version is a bit different and again it forgoes mobilize. I wish Siegebreaker was legendary. https://moxfield.com/decks/yREAAclbAE-48YQs13ms8A

>>95988315
Purphoros and ojer axonil are group slug decks, not burn, burn is casting direct damage to people faces with spells

>>95988729
I think I might go your route and cut down on Mobilize since I already have a Zurgo deck

What’s the best stax color archetype/commander to deal with the grixis player spamming treasures and combo-ing off?

Time to bake cookies and suck ass, and my stove is broken.
Feel free to post IRL decks

>>95988747
Leyline of Singularity he now can't play the game you did it champ.

>>95988754
I'd suck her ass

>>95988754
Based coomette enjoyer

>>95988756
So azorius with augustin as commander?

>>95987936
Yeah, I went to one of them and got the promo.
It wasn't very gay at all

>>95988747
Depends how he's comboing off. The answer 99.9% of the time is "instant speed removal and stop tapping out every turn like a moron." If you give me a bit more to work with than "grixis" I can give you some more directed advice.

>>95988656
>As a rule of thumb I'd only run 3-4 finisher/doubler-type cards at most
well I run about 7-8 of these effects with various differences. I can probably switch out stuff like mage slayer, skullspore nexus, neyith, which are mostly utility
>You could probably invest a bit more in "play extra land" type cards such as Exploration or Sakura-Tribe Scout
I'll try that, sure. then I can probably put stuff like valakut exploration in too then.

>>95988766
I fail to understand how you arranged the words "Leyline of Singularity" to translate into "Grand Arbiter Augustin IV."

>>95988740
It's definitely fun but pretty fragile. Feldon is an obvious MVP combined with Fury or Skelemental Hungry for More is an interesting card I was considering, I cut Anathemancer but could see it putting in work. Callous Sell-Sword is another including I'm considering as a sneaky Fling like spell that actually works with Neriv. My group is pretty low power and I'm always trying to get them to play faster so we can get more games in a d this felt like a good fit for that. Plus I had a foil firecat from childhood wasting away in a binder.

Theeadly reminder that MLD belongs in bracket 3.

>>95988816
You are free to believe that, and I hope your playgroup agrees with your opinion, but its not true beyond that.

>>95988804
Any reason you skipped Nahiri's Resolve? Seems like a no-brainer for this kind of deck.

>>95988782
the combo player can swat and force of will easier than you can hold 2 mana for the rest of the game

>>95988782
Well as of late he’s been running kefka and stacking treasures to wheel us 7 times in one big combo turn. But what he was initially known for was Viví.

He’s running Vivi and as a result uses spells like [[Big Score]] and [[Unexpected Windfall]] to generate treasures to cast multiple spells a turn and turn that into mana from ViVi’s ability so he can cast more spells to boost vivi’s power and ping us

It’s bullshit

>>95988834
Good thing there's only one copy of those cards

>>95988844
anon are you just copypasting posts from Reddit

>>95988827
It would take 8 mana to actually save a ball lightning with it. Thats just a bit too grindy for the deck and I would prefer to just unearth or reanimate instead.

>>95988820
Do you actually believe MLD is good enough to hang with the average bracket 4 deck Gavin? Korvold maybe but then it's just a purposefully gimped cedh deck.

>>95988862
>Gavin
Okay schizo. Be rules are what they are, you don't have to like them, but you have to accept them. Otherwise, kys, no one likes whiny faggots.

>>95988856
>it would take 8 mana
>describe how it would actually take 6

>>95988867
Oh no I hurt the rerard's feelings

>>95988877
>Projecting
Ah, cute kiddie

>>95988881
>look mom, I used that word I learned from the edgy anons. Still don't know what it means though...

>be canadacuck
>making new white deck
>go to local game store to get sleeves and a cheap box
>out of white sleeves and box
>ocd won't let me use other colors
>decide to order online
>only store that has both is already gouging by adding an extra 2 dollars on the box and 3 dollars on the sleeves above the going rate at other stores
>wants to charge me $27CAD on top just for shipping
>after adding up the sleeves and box and shipping they'd charge me $36USD just for a pack of white sleeves and the cheapest deck box

>>95988886
Yeah "projecting" is such a secret word, fucking secret club sperg.

>>95988869
Yeah I guess it's a little cheaper with sneak attack already out. Still feels like a win more card that screams "please kill me before I do it again".

>>95988886
>He's having a melty now
Adorable. =3

>>95988889
Have you tried not being canadian?

>>95988656
>>95988732
added your suggestions and azusa and moraug for good measure, kicked some of the subpar ramp and damage doublers, and it feels like night and day. feels good to empty your hand on t3-4 and immediately refill it afterwards. thanks.

>>95988853
I really appreciate this thought terminating cliche to just shut down any conversation. Is it that hard to imagine kefka and viví being problems at the table? Especially with all the new black mage cards for extra pinger support?

>>95988415
If he wasn't restricted to doing it once a turn he'd be decent. As he is, fucking trash.

Does the anon who plays a "political" yurlock have a decklist somewhere?

>>95988790
>Well I mostly run 7-8
This is likely a large part of why you're clogging. My monoG stompy deck has 4 total dedicated finishers and two of them can be played without a body (the other two are Excalibur and Skullspore Nexus, which cost very little mana). Another comparison I'd use is Dragonborn Champion. Your commander doesn't really ask you to swing with a lot of bodies, but rather, one really big one. That lends itself more to cards like Hunter's Prowess or Hunter's Insight.

>>95988931
lmao just take the L

>>95988844
Good news anon, there's a very obvious commander-shaped chokepoint in those combos. When the Kefka player goes to wheel you in an attempt to draw 4+, you blow up Kefka.

>>95988951
I ran a pain stax, group slug list a couple of times. I don't have it but the biggest piece of advice I can offer is do not run any vineyard effects except maybe overabundance because it does damage too. Also leave some space for defensive pieces because they will come for you first.

>>95988834
>They'll always have it but I won't
Maybe just build a better deck then.

>take a shit
>Wipe ass clean
>Go about my day
>Ass it itches
>Go to bathroom scratch with toilet paper
>Shit all over toilet paper
This is what is like to have UB cards in your deck, shit that will never go away or come clean from a deck that will always be ass

>>95989071
That's a medical issue.

>>95989071

>>95989071
It makes games more enjoyable knowing there's at least one autist sitting there quietly seething that people are using UB cards.

Every set not on Dominaria is UB. Including the sets from before Dominaria even had a name.

>>95988754

>>95988754

>>95988844
Why exactly is Kefka wheeling you? His ability doesn't draw him cards unless it's from his own ability.

>>95989098
>maximum slop bracket 4 value pile
Even if you tied a rope around your neck right this instant, the speed at which you killed yourself would be irrelevant. It should've happened ages ago.

>>95989104
>doctor who slop
>secret lair slop
r/EDH is that-a-way my good faggot

>>95989124
Post deck.

>>95988936
You can do it four times per turn cycle, you gotta build him as a control land pass style commander. You cast a counterspell on enemy turn and you get a free 3/3 with it, hold up mana to cast stuff like treasure cruise and you can just keep passing the turn with interaction while actively adding to your board. He does commit suicide at an alarming rate though, gotta counteract the life loss

>>95989104
>>95989098
holy slop

there needs to be more trannys in UB otherwise it cant be a real magic set

>>95989146
>>95989124
Low iq replies

>>95989124
>r/EDH is that-a-way my good faggot
Are you new?

>>95989098
>I posted the pre-updated version
fix'd
>>95989124
>>95989146
>slopslkopslopslopslopslop
Any real opinions in there or just "UGH I DISLIKE [THING]"? I'd gladly hear critique of the deck if you like

>>95989163
>Any real opinions in there
No

>>95988754
I wonder if the guy who was going to bake cookie tokens for that commander ever went through and did it.

>>95989104
I have always liked that Sol Ring and those pixel lands. You're running Clara as your companion, I assume? What color do you declare her to be?

>>95989185
>I have always liked that Sol Ring and those pixel lands. You're running Clara as your companion, I assume? What color do you declare her to be?
Black so I can run Morophon

>>95989163
It's a weird choice of deck to put a chains in and the power incongruity of your decks is always baffling.
They're bracket 4, but horribly built.
They're packed with broken mega-staples, but also draft-chaff that will be completely overshadowed.

>>95989185
>I wonder if the guy who was going to bake cookie tokens for that commander ever went through and did it.
I forgot about that, I hope so.

>>95989213
He puts it in every single deck just for the sake of showing it off.

>>95989240
pretty based ngl

>>95989244
Put your trip back on

>>95989244
TRIP
BACK
ON

>>95989244
>>95989247
>>95989250
every time

>>95989096
Do Tempest and Mercadian Masques count?

>>95989213
I use chains as a strange Narset-like stax piece where anyone wanting to do lots of drawing never really goes positive (including as a discard outlet for myself) but >>95989240
is pretty much correct. I don't have any deck where it is at its maximum value, so I just try to put it in places where I can potentially benefit from it somewhat or just use it to inconvenience others because it's cool as fuck to drop it on the table.
>power incongruity
You know, I completely understand where you're coming from. A lot of the time I put cards in that are good, but then when I'm trying to do a "thing", I try to put in cards that feel flavorful for that on the side, like Swallowed by Leviathan since it's a surveil + counterspell in one in a deck that wants to vomit half of itself into the graveyard, Unshakable Tail so that surveiling turns into a cyclical event if I keep hitting creatures, Enhanced Surveillance in general, etc. Another example is I run Otawara and Takenuma and I've never channeled them once, I've also never sacrificed Inventors' Fair for the tutor before either lmao

>>95989272
>I just do it to flex
And you're a cringe faggot who should fuck off.

>>95989276
hey hey hey hey hey hey hey, buddy, it can ALSO work as a discard outlet when I'm drawing cards, so I can get Broodstar out of my hand. Thiiink about it lmao

>>95989124
>implying there's rope with such tensile strength

>>95989213
>draft-chaff that will be completely overshadowed
this is what always confuses me, who runs swallowed by leviathan next to mana drain?

>>95989124
TRVTHNVKE

>>95988482
He's really fun.
>>95988484
>>95988494
Are both wrong. He's not pure bird tribal he's a value engine that uses birds to draw/play lands.
Run bop, gustcloak, mockingbird for their utility , use topdeck manipulation kike sensei or scroll rack and flip 2-4 lands into play/turn while filling your hand

>>95988754
This is complete garbage

>>95987392

>>95989288
>>95989272
>>95989244
>>95989240
>>95989213
>>95989163
are there not better or more appropriate discard outlets that make tokens you care about or something? I see Collector's Vault and Sliversmith, but there has to be more right?

>>95989353
Stop feeding it. He just likes to flex his luxury cardboard and giggle about the flowchart. It isn't that complicated.

>>95989353
Looking at Scryfall for Dimir commander legal Repeatable token generators that are also discard outlets. The only ones that are relevant are like
>Currency Converter
Only in the case of when I discard and then exile lands and put them back into my graveyard, so not particularly useful here
>Leonardo da Vinci
Exiles stuff I discard with his ability to make thopter copies of them, different decks want this
>Mirrodin Besieged
Only does draw/discard on the second mode and token generation on the first mode. I may actually put this in since I tend to surveil half of my deck into the graveyard anyway.
>Transmutation Font (because it makes blood tokens I guess?)
5 drop that makes 1 token per turn and can tutor, but generally feels overcosted for the effect for me. I'd be better off running Kuldotha Forgemaster in this deck.
Then if you look at Dimir Blood Token generators, the only useable ones would be like...
>Siphon Essence
>Vampire's Kiss
>Pointed Discussion
So there really aren't a lot of other options here but >>95989370 is right, I like to giggle about the reactions to the card and it's a cool expensive old card I like to show off. Same reason I need to find a place for my Survival of the Fittest sometime and why I use my Chrome Mox, fancy Mox Opal, beta basics, Inventions Ravager, and the Expeditions Delta

>>95989185
>I wonder if the guy who was going to bake cookie tokens for that commander ever went through and did it.
I should do this for Brenard

>>95989379
Ceremonial Knife, Kamber the Plunderer and Moonstone Eulogist.

>>95987427
>SPACE WARS AND RACECARS BAD
>FUNNY ANIMALS GOOD

now that the dust has settled I think we can all agree that betrayers of kamigawa was the best set ever

>>95989418
Ceremonial Knife requires combat damage, which is feasible but extremely slow. Kamber and Eulogist aren't artifact creatures, which isn't like a no-sell point or anything but also require me to consistently remove opposing creatures or face sacrifice/removal heavy decks. If anything they incentivize removing them and not removing anything else since I benefit from it. The only real direct creature removal I have are Armix, Walking Ballista (which come on I'm not using that to kill creatures lmao), Toxic Deluge, and Withering Torment. Honestly, I probably should have more repeatable removal, this deck sorta folds to high aggro big boy green timmy decks. I nearly got smashed by a Renata last week at my LGS, but Gitrog ended up combing off first.

The officer with Impact Mitigation and Elite Damage Control in a TT Brawler with smod Insulated Engine Assembly and Automated Repair Unit knowing that he can take more EMP damage than a capital's entire flux capacity and his engines still won't even begin to shut off.

>>95989185
>>95989229
>I wonder if the guy who was going to bake cookie tokens for that commander ever went through and did it.
I had to stop relying on my buddy to make a cookie cutter print and figure out how to do it myself what is not my thing. Was about ready to print out the proto type to see if it works but life happened but that is starting to slow down. At this point I wanted long enough I will probably wait for Christmas so everyone is more excited to see gingerbread. As much as I love gingerbread if you offer it to someone out of season and they just don't care. Thank you for remembering me.

Can I get some recommendations for a mono red commander? every time I try to brew one I get sidetracked with ideas that need another color

>>95989461
That looks sick as hell, I hope it turns out well

>>95989439
>no Smokestack
>no Attrition
>no Braids
>no Necron Deathmark
>>95989461
based as fuck
>>95989482
Lathliss. You play Dragons, you make Dragons.

>>95989482
RMS Titanic

>>95989492
>Smokestack
>unironically recommending one of the most miserable cards in the entire game

>>95989449
good taste but wrong thread. also Brawler a shit.

>>95989461
rad

>>95989438
bad

>>95989461
>As much as I love gingerbread if you offer it to someone out of season and they just don't care
what the fuck??? I'd love to get gingerbread no matter the month. That'd be fucking awesome who the hell do you hang out with??

>>95989500
>no stop using good cards that synergize with the deck
Smokestack takes great advantage of token generating decks.

>>95989538
This doesn't remove how it's miserable shit. Smokestack also only works if you're already ahead and have a pile of tokens to feed to it, starting from nothing, it just empties your board as fast as everyone elses.

>>95989500
>what? I have to choose to sacrifice some of my shiny toys? But I love them all so much, I could never pick favorites!

>arguing about the definitive stax piece in the big 25

>>95989482

>>95989564
You're the type of fag who think MLD is okay.

>>95989574
This commander is low iq dogshit and you need to stop shilling it

MLD is okay.

>make silly Norin deck with no chaos, just Norin pinging with etb triggers
>99 cards in, barely bracket 2
>put in Blood Moon
>BRACKET 4 BRACKET 4 THIS IS CEDH ADJACENT DECK SWEAT LORD ALERT SWEAT LORD ALERT BRACKET 4 DECK INCOMING

Brackets - just - work!

>>95989492
>Smokestack
I have one of these, but isn't it a little devious? Guess I could discard it if the game doesn't warrant its presence.
>Attrition
Now that's spicy removal, turning thopters into kills. I'll have to wait to get one, but when I do I'll definitely find a slot for it
>Braids
How likely is this to actually cause problems, or is it just a little disruptive? I considered more "humans" that were synergistic to the deck as an excuse to put my Roaming Throne somewhere as a second Panharmonicon for doubling up Golbez triggers.
>>95989588
I particularly like Blood Moon and Winter Moon
>>95989482
Magda, the Hoardmaster. Lots of repeatable burn functions as crimes and make treasures to generate an army of Scorpion Dragons.

>>95988754
that heath is thriving holy

>>95989598
Why would you need Blood moon other than just to be a giant faggot?
You don't. You're just being a faggot for faggot sake. Which is why its 4, people in bracket 2 don't want nor often are prepared to deal with it.

>>95989616
>people in bracket 2 can't have removal for a single enchantment or any basic lands
you have autism

>>95989618
Most precons out of the box don't, or have a single piece of it and are loaded with non-basics. You don't think, and are a retard.

>>95989614
Its a really bad land objectively, but... how can a man refuse...

>>95989616
>no you can't deny my fast mana my 3 color slop pile full of fetches and non-tap duals needs perfect color fixing to function I am not going to include a single ounce of removal you're a faggot for trying to slow me down I'm not including basics I'm just not!

>>95989598
Blood moon isn't land destruction thoughbeit, you can play it in any bracket (source: https://mtg.wiki/page/Land_destruction)

>>95989632
>People are playing those in bracket 2.
>responding to me again pretending to be someone.
Pubstomper retards never change. Thing is, I'll always be right, and you'll always be wrong. and not amount of seething and multi replying will change that.
>>95989633
MLD is Mass Land Denial. learn to read.

>>95987353
Impossible to make low bracket. Any KOS is an auto 4 imho.

>>95989642
>learn to read.
I read the wiki

>>95989616
>why would you put blood moon in a monored deck?
the same reason you put RIP in a deck with no graveyard shit. the same reason you put null rod in a deck with no artifacts
what a fucking retard

>>95989655
>Serves no purpose other than to be a pubstomping faggot
Play in in a 4, you can't. you're not a good enough player that's why you need to make up bullshit about 2s and multiply for a 3rd time to seethe because someone called you out for being a faggot. Being wrong really bruised your ego. I await your 4th multi reply.

>>95989598
I caught a Norin player with a defabricate on his "return it to the play under its owners control" trigger and it ended up stuck in exile the entire game

>>95989616
>Why would you need Blood moon
Mono-Red decks are the only decks that should be using Blood Moon aside from maybe Rakdos/Izzet if they use enough basics. The whole point is to fuck up nonbasics, especially some of the extremely powerful ones like Ancient Tomb, Dust Bowl, Glacial Chasm, Nykthos, Gaea's Cradle, etc. There are tons of basics even in mono-color that are stronger than your average basic land.

>>95989661
>1 piece of stax is pubstomping
go play minesweeper

>>95989580
You sound pretty mad, sorry you got burned.

>>95989661
>pubstomping
Blood moon is the opposite of pubstomping, it evens the playing field between people with >$1000 dual land mana bases and timmys playing wayfarer's bauble to fetch basics

>>95989675
Then run it in a 4 where it belongs. That's where it is, and that's where it will rot. Deal with it.

>>95989681
I think I'm gonna run it where I want and not worry about being a rules lawyer

>>95989685
>Lose anyway because he's a shit player just trying to pubstomp and not actually good at the game
Let me know how that works out for you. Trash,

>>95989461
Of course I would, it's a neat idea and something memorable to bring to the table (in both ways).
I'm sure you can come up with some solid enough cookies if you feel that gingerbread is too festive to use the rest of the year. But on the other hand, it'd be nifty and uncommon to eat them outside of the holiday season, enough to make it novel. (Though if you play it often, you'd probably want to have some ways to mix things up.)
Would the cookie handle such a complicated stamp and have the text come out cleanly? Also, shouldn't the text on the stamp be backwards since it's stamping down on the cookie and wanting to leave the text forwards on it?

I don't get the hate for blood moon

Is this b4, guys?

>>95989704
This doesn't stop you from using your lands

Fetches and og duals should be game changers

>>95989707
I don't think they should game changers, but they should be restricted to b3

>>95989645
>Any KOS is an auto 4 imho
I wouldn't say that. I've played against commanders like Go-Shintai, Krenko, and Jetmir that are absolutely kill on sight and were definitely bracket 3.

>>95989706
last I checked, mountains make red mana

>>95989482
I was looking for a mono red commander but the majority all seem boring.
>exile a card from the top of your library
>goblin 9001
>>95989492
Lathliss seems like one of the best choices. I might make Inferno of the Star Mounts for something different. Not sure which artwork to get though. Maybe there’s some more interesting multicolour, but primarily red commander.

>>95989716
>Playing a white green deck
>Well shit
You know this, you're just being peabrained because your pumbstomping faggot ass can't handle the fact Wotc called you out for what you are.
Deal with it. Or kys, which ever is easier for you.

>>95989720
>Maybe there’s some more interesting multicolour, but primarily red commander
NO
STOP THAT
MONO RED ONLY

I get a lot of people rage quitting bracket 2 games after I play One with the multiverse, and blatant thievery. Would you say they're game changers? I personally think blatant thievery isn't and people rage quit against it because they hate theft. But what about One with Multiverse? What do you think?

>>95989724
>playing a white/green deck
>not having a single forest or plains
>can't possibly float mana to kill it after it lands
>literal best color combo to stop enchants
sounds like a skill issue

what are some sleeper GOATs?

>>95989716
Come on man, have you been paying any attention these last two turns?

Sorry timmy the assrape starts now

>>95989728
Costs 8, not the easiest thing to cheat out in a bracket 2, I wouldn't say its anywhere near being the level of a game changer
>Hate theft
They need to get over it, its an officially supported archetype. Same with mill.

>>95989739
aw it was so close

>>95989750
?

>>95989755
but that's not the funny one

>>95989735
This is the lowest quality bait I've ever fucking seen.

>>95989755
>>95989750
??

>>95989763
I run both.

>>95989765
me on the left

>>95989742
I don't really cheat it out but I run quite a few cost reducers so I've been known to get it out T6
I still don't think it's a game changer at 6 cmc mostly because sometimes it works great, other times it's a dud and I'm stuck staring at lands. I guess I was just wondering because I've never had a specific card cause so many people to RQ.

>>95989661
>denying my fast mana is pubstomping! I only have dual lands I can't put my Baylin or Arcades out and immediately run away with the game! My decks are only bracket 2 even though I built them as greed piles with fetches and shocks and bond lands and can run away with the game when my commander hits the field! Your monored jank pile with precisely one stax piece that doesn't do anything to basics is a pubstomper deck! Aaaa save me Maro!

prices should factor into the bracket system

>>95989750
>a:mark poole
what was the art prompt for this??

>>95989707
Anything that puts in non-basic lands should be b4, including fetches. Lands that produce two or more colors and can come in untapped should be 4. Dual or more lands that always come in tapped should be b3.

A big part of why this game is so fucking fast now is because dinks can run 3+ color slop piles with little issue due to how many fucking lands there are that effortlessly color fix, even if some of them come in tapped. Choosing to make decks with 3 or more colors should be a hard choice and come with some sort of trade off. Most mono/dual decks are not significantly faster than a 3 color to offset having less answers and strategies. Push 3+ color Commanders with greedy mana bases into B4 and a lot of problem decks instantly disappear from casual tables.

>>95989819
nah. price and even rarity doesn’t make sense. look at all the faggy budget commander youtubers. you can build a bunch of different high powered shit on a shoelace budget. some fags have made it their entire youtube careers. same goes for pauper commander.

>>95988931
I ask it unironically since you did that little cross-linking thing Reddit has for no discernible reason

>>95989819
Edgar was 100+ dollars not too long ago. Now he's in the 20s. Does that mean he went from being bracket 4 to bracket 3 even with zero changes to the deck?

Do these sleeves need an outer sleeve to not go to shit after a few months of shuffling? If so what deckbox works for a triple sleeved deck since I usually use inner sleeves or kmc hards?

>>95989859
never buy UltraPro sleeves

>>95989847
ya modern mana bases are too good. anything with green has all the mana fixing and ramp you ever need without needing a single rock.

>>95989859
Try a day of shuffling.

>>95989859
how are apex? i’ve only ever used dragon shield so so i can double sleeve

>>95989862
I hate it. They have such nice designs but they're so garbage

>>95989855
I had to check I didn't want to believe it. Just fucking crazy what a single reprint can do, holy shit

>>95989501
>Brawler a shit
Big words for someone in reach of the LP Brawler kill squad

>>95989855
any card worth more than a 1-2 dollars is bracket 4 minimum

Unless you're playing all the $$$ free mana spells how are you supposed to actually play the cards you draw from Jenova? I never thought drawing too many cards would be a problem...

>>95990000
What

>>95990002
Jenova can draw you too many cards

>>95990000
Is it really that hard for brainlets to format a magic card correctly? There are literally thousands of examples you can look at for how to do it right

>>95990019
>>95990000
Post your list

>>95990019
I gotchu senpai

>>95990027
Hmm how is that only tree fiddy

>>95990033
It's five mana. FIVE! Basically impossible to cast. And then you have to GET RID of cards to even use it? Mtg is all about card advantage, this card sucks.

>>95990041
fair enough, there's the creature you can discard a card to add black but it costs 5`

>>95989482
Make a Rube Goldberg machine with Kurkesh.

>>95990041
Is this a troll

>>95990019
My problem with this is the whole deck becomes a draw engine but how do you win, what are the payoffs?

>>95990099
I don't.

>>95990096
Yeah, I even thought it was a little too over the top when I posted it, but hey at least you had to ask. I'll try to tune it down a bit next time.

>>95989750
I hope none of you play cards from this set or at least this card specifically. Fuck aetherdrift

>>95990131
I do, what are you going to do, cry about it?

>>95989859
Never buy ultra pro full stop for sleeves.

>>95990135
MTG sure has a large amount of tranny players heh

>>95990131
Why would I not play the best draw spell since ancestral recall?

>>95990138
>Don't use what I don't like, its not okay! ITS JUST NOT!
Yeah, I'm the one with the tranny mentality.

>>95990141
>What is treasure cruise
>What is dig through time
This isn't even close to the best since Ancestral recall

>>95990146
You're right, the pro legacy players are wrong.

>>95990141
I had 5, I sold 5. I should have kept 1.

>>95990150
You understand the two cards I just mentioned are banned in legacy. Treasure cruise is quite literally Ancestral Recall a lot of the time in that format.
Treasure cruise is banned in modern legacy, pauper and restricted in vintage

>>95990141
I don't see "draw" written on there anywhere

What's her card?

>>95990160
Wouldn't see play in legacy even if it was unbanned. Blue decks want to be playing murktide and they can't afford the extra delve, and it wouldn't even help against the Oops all spells player going off on turn 1 or 2 (thank you wotc, flourishing format)

>>95990177
That's the best part!

Best commander for Sibsig Ceremony? I wanted to put it in Rendmaw but then I'd have to find inventive ways to play my commander once it died

>>95990186
Acererak or Sephiroth, depends on what you want to do with the card.

>>95990191
Does Sephiroth transform do some kind of ninjutsu switcheroo where he doesn't die if he gets transformed on ETB?

>>95990186
Maybe Drivnod?

>>95990194
He just transforms and flips, he doesn't leave the battlefield so Sibsig Ceremony won't kill One-Winged Angel.

>>95990182
man FUCK this shiiiii

Thoughts on Erebos artifacts?

>>95990211
...what's the gameplan here?

>>95990211
With Sibsig >>95990186

>>95990206
>won't
That's a typo, right?

>>95990216
Sorry I think I misunderstood your question. If you play Sephiroth while Sibsig Ceremony is already out and sacrifice a creature with his ETB trigger for the 4th kill to transform him while the Sibsig Ceremony trigger is on the stack he will still die. You do still get a sweet emblem as compensation.

>>95990214
autodeath + cheap recursion + free creatures

>>95989735

>>95990280
he cute

>>95990280
I look like this

>>95989919
The biggest tards in this game are investards who think their cardboard actually has longterm value and security. Thankfully WOTC has been on a war path burning their asses with FIRE and based UB reprints.

>>95989482
Clive. His so fun and busted, just trust me.
Play fast. Play him on curve, discard 0-2 card hand for a new full hand.
Be aggressive on board.
Pay mana cost to flip him into a 9/9 that fights someone. Then saga chapter 2/3 gives you 4 red mana each.
Flip him back over, redraw a new hand. Repeat.
You go very aggressive in this deck and you have fast mana and cards all the time.

>>95989855
nah, 20 bucks is still B4

Have you taken the raccoon pill yet?

>>95990587
he cute

>>95990419
Oh, I didn't know there's a Revel in Riches without the line that paints a huge target on your head, neat.

>>95990019
It's golgari. Discard them and then cheat from graveyard.

what's the best payoff for THREEE DAWG

>>95989482
moraug, make it and combat landfall deck

>>95990753
subtle pedogger art messaging

>>95990504
What happens when he gets removed

>>95990753
>Art of an Asian girl wearing Asian flowers while an Asian spirit comforts her
>"Wow I don't remember this card from kamigawa"
>It's from fucking Innistrad
This is why I don't hate ub

>>95990504
I recently made a list for a friend, but I still need to cut a few cards. Do you have any suggestions for cuts or additions? I never built a mono coloured deck.
https://moxfield.com/decks/bKNuCeCsVkuB1nyWI0e5-A

>>95990956
innistrad is for everyone chud!

>>95990952
he goes to the commandzone where you can recast and redraw

>>95989482
Krenko
Purphoros
Ojer
Feldon
Jaxis/Delina/Rinonya/Gogo/Orthion/Kiki
Laelia
Alexios/Slicer
Into

Mono red is incredibly diverse and has lots of great commanders

>>95990970
I mean like he costs 6 mana in mono red though and he's going to get removed on sight

>printing cards like sonic as super limited is ok because reserved list exists
trying to make sour grapes much?

>>95990419
>Thankfully WOTC has been on a war path burning their asses with FIRE and based UB reprints.
There are no UB reprints ever so my investment is safe :)

>>95990980
You just drew a fuckton of cards. Chances are you can ramp, play another threat and then recast him. He already solves the biggest issue with red decks by drawing you a good amount of cards.

>>95990986
This is possibly the worst answer he could have given

>>95990991
Do you have a list? I'm just kind of at a loss for what the rest of the deck is supposed to be doing

I just realised that I have never gotten the sol ring to arcane signet start and the only possible explanation it's so frequent with everone else is that they don't shuffle well enough after slamming their board back to deck when starting a new game

>>95991053
You're either unlucky or they just cheat

>>95991053
>Watching command zone
>Haha wow I start with sol ring into arcane signet
>Haha wow me too
>Lmao wow me three what a coincidence
Josh Lee Kwai sucks

>>95991053
how many times do you mulligan

>>95991071
getting those 2 specific cards in your starter is less than half a percent chance. I would understand getting one which is 13% from 7 cards drawn but I see both in way more games than 1 in 200 (except on my side). people are not shuffling enough and I need to find a way to subtly tell make people not put their manarocks next to each other when "shuffling" them back. cutting doesn't fix this either unless I reshuffle and that just seems too tryhard

>>95991127
I'd say I take the free mull more times than not but rarely go down to 6

>>95991053
Commander players run 35 lands, then their group lets them mulligan until they get a playable hand, which often means ring/crypt and a signet.

>>95991150
>>95991117
I'm talking about irl games and never in my life have I seen people give more than 1 free mull.
only once did I see a dude try do multiple free mulls pre-game while waiting for us to finish thinking no-one would notice but I promptly asked which 3 he was going to keep and people peer pressured him to keep a small hand

>>95991171
I take free mulls when nobody notices.
Combined with mana weaving this means I often have a powerful start

>>95991183
I just run 2 sol rings personally.

>>95991199
based

>>95990180
PURE delusion

>>95990994
the returns from FF have gone to his head

>>95991199
this but I put an mdfc behind it so if I draw both I can just pretend to be switching sides and put it in front of the second sol ring to hide it in the sleeve

What are some good ways to get life back in a G'raha deck? The deck is super fun but you can very very quickly deplete all your life due to how he works.
Has anyone else found success here?

>>95991348
>hey why's that card so much thicker

>>95991368
>may
cowards

>>95991368
cute cat boy uwu

>>95991368
Give the token LifeLink

T

>>95991128
This anon does NOT understand math lmao
>>95991368
Yes black and white are two colours historically known for not gaining life, at all, ever. Stupid fucking FF tourists

>>95991368
Whip of erebos

>>95991373
nobody has been able to detect that through a sleeve yet to this very day

>>95991348
That's a pretty good idea, I'm going to have to make some MDFC stickers for the backs of my cards.

>>95991001
I just posted one >>95990958. But it's still in the making. Basic idea is to ramp like a madman, have a bunch of haste enablers and go ham. Having a 9/9 creature as commander means you don't really need that much to oneshot people. Even the front should be pretty threatening or set people up to be in range.

What's the context on this quote

>>95990054
>15 minute not deterministic combo fag
you’ll never be a real woman

I'm sick and tired of the land denial discrimination.
Print more land denial cards.

>>95990131
Sorry anon but strong black woman will be finding my horsies and racecars forever

>>95991865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4CZlP1OXcY

>>95989739
AAAAAAHHH A STICK WITH A DEER SKULL ON IT I'M A SUPER POWERFUL WIZARD BUT IM AFRAID NOW SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>95991897
just bought tsabo's web for my casual deck. can't wait to blow maze of ith the fuck out

Are there any ways to tutor for angels with power 3 or higher in Boros? Imperial recruiter doesn’t work for me

>>95992224
It slow

>>95992224

>>95992224
if you don't mind tutoring only legendaries there is search for glory but otherwise it's pretty much just gamble

>>95992224
Heirloom Blade

>>95992244
I mean just

>>95992224
While not tutoring directly, scroll rack gets you going through a deck. Although you do waste a bit of mana. Other than that it’s gamble, if you’re desperate planar bridge.

I hate ramp so god damn much. Nothing makes me seethe more than waste my first 3 turns on playing spells just to ramp.
Whats a commander which allows me to play zero ramp spells?

>>95992281
When you say ramp do you only mean "search your library for lands" or does that include mana rocks/dorks

>>95992281

>>95992224
oh and war of the last alliance altho it also only gets legends

>>95992293
both

>>95992281
??

>>95992254
>>95992279
Search for glory is a good suggestion, I also found war of the last alliance since I’m searching for Aurelia anyways. It’s meant to be a shitty bracket 2 deck with velomachus lorehold as a “finisher” anyways. Thanks for the suggestions

>>95992307
what is wrong with ramping with creatures. you get to hoof them afterwards

>>95992319
playing a creature and watch it do nothing but tap for mana afterwards is peak snooze

>>95992331
Found the Gruul player

>>95992313
>tutors
>bracket 2

>>95992281
anything under the umbrella of Mardu, and it's less "allowed" and more "forced" if you're not a fag who runs Smothering Tithe

>>95992352
You get three nonland tutors and no gamechangers in bracket 2. Look it up

>>95992359
>the moxfield interpretation is now canon
this isnt the bible

>>95992359
Gavin is a retard, tutors are against the spirit of EDH and bracket 2

>>95992359
>want to make a cute kefka bracket 2 deck that's just as many FF bad guys as I can fit
>also want to put blue gogo in for wizard tribal and shenanigans
>blue gogo copying ultimecia's transform etb is a chain extra turn combo and thus the deck is forced into bracket 4
It's not fair

>>95991913
>tutor commander
typical bracket 4 troon

>>95989735
If I created infite colorless mana, could I use this to make infinite colored mana?

>>95992468
right on all counts, what are you gonna do about it faggot?

>>95992486
yes

>>95992468
Tutors again

>>95992458
nope, totally fair. anyone having a single rule break is 100% equipped to deal with thoracle combo. the rules are good and work. never mind that discard can run free in bracket 2

>won 6 games in a row at LGS (3-4 player pods)
I really want the people I play with to step it up, I'm not even playing degenerate stuff but a lot of the folks there just misplay a lot. I'm mostly just playing lightly upgraded precons at this point and I don't really have anything weaker to bring to the table.

>>95992554
I stopped building decks with the intention of winning and started building towards doing some stupid goal. Doesn't matter how much of a tryhard you are when all you're doing is trying to gain life.

>>95992364
>>95992468
>tutors bad
>meanwhile all my commanders have multiple colors and have "whenever X do Y" because valueslop is real EDH gaming
kekaroo

>>95991368
Besides the obvious giving the tokens lifelink, i find that just playing soul attendant or one of her variations causes you to gain like 20 life over the course of a game

>>95992764
>whenever X do Y
This meme needs to die
Retards think triggered abilities are bad design

>>95992796
>leave "whenever X do Y" alone!
i'm not the one afraid of diabolic tutor anon

>playing card draw or tutors
brainrot moment

>>95992468
Tutors are bracket 3

>>95992822
>posts a picture that proves himself wrong
??
B2 says it can have "few"

What bracket calculator is the most accurate? I always seem to way underestimate my Deck's power level and can't be trusted not to be retarded and pib stomp.

>>95992822
you were funnier when you said lands had colors

>>95992833
there isn't one because brackets are just vibes

>>95992834
Lands have color identity still right? Like you can include stuff that says "all colors" but not any that have a mana symbol outside your commander identity?

>>95992849
commander color identity (any mana symbols anywhere on the card) and actual color identity (what color a card is within the rules of the game) are separate

Like Alesha is just Red within the rules of the game, but for commander she's RBW

>>95992849
that's different than color but yes. if a card taps for a specific color it's concidered having that identity. that's why you can't include a basic forest in mono U deck but can put urborg or city of brass in every

>>95992841
brackets are effectively formats and anyone thinking they're "vibes" are better off just proxying and never leaving their kitchen table

>>95992834
>>95992857

A new bread should be baked posthaste

>>95992870
the "rules" of brackets are too loose to be formats. "Few" tutors is too vague. And are all tutors on the same level? Behold the Beyond is just as good as Vampiric Tutor? Steelshaper's Gift as good as Enlightened Tutor? And just what is a "late game" infinite combo? What is considered late game? If it has a combo that can go off early but you don't have tutors or a lot of card draw, is your deck now a lower bracket?

It's all just vibes, my man.

>>95992891
gavin being a waffling vague pussy doesn't invalidate brackets effectively being formats

>>95992901
Yes it does, you can't have different formats if the differences between them are too vague.

I'm just glad rhystic and rift are banned in my format

Twenty (20) starting life, commander damage victory at 11. This saves the game.

>>95990986
>moving the goalpost
I fucking hate nosewater

>>95989185
>I have always liked that Sol Ring and those pixel lands.
I don't believe you.

Is it impossible to play pic related without powerful ramps like dark ritual or seething song? I’m just sitting on my ass for 4 turns to drop her and then - ooops commander removed pay 7 more mana to continue.

>>95992922
>you can't have different formats
yes you can
even pussyfooting gavin opines that lategame is "turn 7" for bracket 3 and "turn 10" for bracket 2
imagine what an actual man with a spine and a clear vision can accomplish
>muh abritirary rules
ultimately people follow them because wotc said so, because guess what, they own the game, who could've thought that having the power of word of god is so important
if you can't handle how the real world works you can always stay in your kitchen table

>>95989577
It is if it comes with a plan.
MLD is only bad if someone is casting it with no actual plan to utilize it. Just to be a dick. MLD isn't a problem. Misuse of MLD is.

>>95992960
You should not be playing 5CMC+ commanders that don’t have access to green or cost reduction like affinity, no.

>>95992970
Correct take

>>95992953
coming up with excuses is his job but I cannot believe more people are not pissed about this

>>95992985
Most of the non-autistic playerbase just shrugs and proxies now. It is only a real issue for anti-proxy tards and rural people who only have anti-proxy shops.
I'll just go to MPC and print out this shit.

>>95990986
I almost called him Nosewater at the LGS last week, you people have ruined me

>>95992993
>proxyfags say this while unable to withstand being called poorfags
kek proxyfags are so desperate for validation it's hilarious

>>95992970
But but....

>>95993007
My proxies cost more than real cards
I still proxy

>>95993007
t. scalper

>>95992993
I'm sad my favorite chinaman shop disappeared one day. have yet to find another website that had good foil counterfeits for cheap
I don't sell those, I just like having blinged out decks

>>95992970
Anything 5+ CMC in the command zone is genuinely unplayable outside of brackets 4/5 unless it has an insane etb effect or a trigger that is basically a game finisher.

>>95992970
Any time I see a commander that costs 6+ I ask "does your pod run literally zero removal???" Imagine spending 6 fucking mana on a commander, only to have it instantly removed, and now have to spend 8+ for it again. Only for it to instantly get removed once more

>>95993016
Just use MPC then. Chinaman is only necessary if you need counterfeits. If you aren't trying to fool people then you don't need China man's counterfeits.

>>95993017
5 mana is absolutely fine in green. You should have like 9 mana by turn 5.

>>95993019
I had a guy playing some izzet 6CMC Commander. It got removed twice and he scooped

>>95993019
This is an issue with the game overall.
Why play expensive(cmc) cards if they can get removed by a one CMC spell? It should cost my opponent more to remove it.

Ward fixes this problem but people bitch about ward and sometimes WOTC puts ward on creatures that really don't need it, while ignoring the ones that do.

For me, if any commander has CMC over 4 it has to have some sort of built in protection or recursion for me to run it, with very few compromises

I feel like if Commander was designed from the ground up they would either give everything ward or somehow fix the fact that your 6+ CMC commander can be path to exiled for 1 CMC

R8

>>95993031
This was my experience playing melek(from dragons maze).
It got removed 3 times and I never got to use his ability because he never survived a round
I went home and took the deck apart that night

>>95992993
if they start printing good mdfcs like this I just might crack

>>95993053
>Henzie
Based Henzie enjoyer

>>95993019
Removal doesn't work against dovin's veto

>>95993071
>oh darn my removal spell got countered if only there weren't 2 other players with removal in hand guess I'll pass the turn!
>player 3 removes your commander

>>95993080
He already used it on the 11/11 double strike trample voltron commander

>>95993080
>ends your own turn in your path

>>95993019
>>95993031
>>95992970
You can play a 5 mana commander, it just has to be a nice goodstuff top-end. If you try to build around your 5 mana commander, you're going to have a miserable time. Have played Sen Triplets forever and the problem I see with other Sen Triplets decks is running garbage like Paradox Haze that only does anything if they stick around instead of running on-board protection and other must-answer threats.
Think people who started playing after the tuck rule change never build decks like this.

>>95993019
>>95993056
>>95993080
>>95993048
My question is, why the fuck is everyone instantly remove the 6 drop? Are you in a playgroup where everyone instantly removes commanders the second they get played, no matter what? Does EVERYONE play white in your playgroup? Does no one save removal until it's absolutely necessary? I just don't get the mind set. Like, I absolutely don't use my removal until last second, so more often then not, people's commanders get played around me. I just don't get it. What's even the point of commander if all you're doing is removing and getting your commander removed. Might as well play Canadian Highlander.

>>95989071
Get a bidet you philistine

>>95993127
My apartment does not allow that.

>>95993122
I agree, at least in my playgroup people use their removal more reactively when somethings going to actually affect them. And with everyone playing haymaker threats sometimes there's just not even enough single target removal to go around

>>95993122
>My question is, why the fuck is everyone instantly remove the 6 drop?
I can only speak of my friends: They're fucking retarded. If I see a huge beater hit the table my first reaction is "hell yeah hit my opponents" and *only* if it attacks me will I remove it if I can't stall with chump blockers. My friends though? The literal second after it resolves they want to cast removal. Doesn't matter if it's not attacking them, they're scared retards that think big creatures should never be allowed to exist. And yes, our games tend to take like 2 motherfucking hours because they never let the game advance

>>95993122
This. If I sat around doing jack shit for 5 turns my pod will not just remove my commander unless it is some absurd KOS tier commander that cannot be allowed to get to their next turn.Why waste removal when I am behind and not doing shit yet? Usually someone else has a full board and threats by then. The only real risk is a board wipe or edict IMO. But then you should be using your brain to figure out WHEN that may happen and not playing into it.

>>95993133
Your apartment doesn't need to know anything. There's bidets you can buy off amazon that hook right into the toilet feed lines. They take like 2 minutes to install at most

>>95993155
They do like bi-monthly checks and have the right to enter my apartment without my permission.

>>95993122
I agree with you Anon and I don't think that it should happen. Realistically removing someone's Commander is a poor decision unless it becomes an imminent threat, because that is the card that has the most resilience.

I think that unfortunately the way the people's minds work, and the way that the game works with the disparity between the cost of removal and the cost of your commander, often people come to the conclusion that the best thing to do IS to remove someone's Commander with the idea that you're going to slow down the deck and strategy significantly, because in Commander people build around their commanders.

The issue is both that it defeats the purpose of the format but also that the assessment is not always wrong.
>I just don't get it. What's even the point of commander if all you're doing is removing and getting your commander removed. Might as well play Canadian Highlander.
I feel like you're exactly correct with this statement, but I can't deny that I have some decks where removing the commander slows it down.

Personally I try my best not to remove other people's commanders because I know how frustrating that is, and even though I want to win obviously, and have a competitive game, I would rather remove their big threats.

something I also find fun in, is building commanders that are less popular and uncommon or less remove on sight. Sometimes you'll get ignored for a large portion of the game. But this of course depends on the table and group you are in, and eventually you can run into an interesting paradox; when every commander and every card is remove on sight, suddenly nothing is.

>>95993122
People DO save their removal, which is precisely why a high cmc commander drop is such an attractive target. Also turn 6 and 7 is when people start having unused mana at the end of the turn, using it on a cheap removal spell now rather than later is very tempting.

>>95993122
There are ways to prevent that.

>>95992849
Technically yes, the intrinsic mana ability of lands is the only exception of rules text not dictating color identity
A Bayou is colorless but can only go into a GB deck

>>95993203
Anon that's not "saving" removal. That's called trying to curve out every turn like you're playing fucking draft.

>>95993161
what the fuck.

>>95993161
Land of the free

>>95990986
Baaed Mark "I Still Think It's 1997" Nosewater. No, your average peasant shouldn't have access to all the cards just because they exist. If you can't afford to buy it and are too stupid/cowardly to run repros or proxies, wallow in your filth pleb.

>>95993119
>You can play a 5 mana commander, it just has to be a nice goodstuff top-end.
Yeah, pic related basically

>>95993122
The point at which people are casting 6 drops, not only can people board wipe, but it's probably getting necessary to board wipe because engines are online.

But either way, more and more commanders are printed where it IS the game plan. More than half the deck will be dedicated to triggering the commander, and if the commander is not on board the deck is significantly weakened.
If you pop someone's commander you're very often crippling them for a rotation or more.

>>95993048
There's a simple solution and I've been advocating for it since September of last year:

PRINT AN ALTERNATIVE TO JEWELED LOTUS THAT SAYS THE MANA IT MAKES CAN ONLY BE USED TO CAST A COMMANDER OF MANA VALUE 5 OR MORE

>>95993019
I think it's a mix of social etiquette and threat assessment that keeps commanders of such high costs not getting instantly removed. There's often something worse you have to keep removal for and if you just blow it the moment they get their reccuring threat, their commander, on the board then you won't have much left when something else dangerous hits. If they have any basic up strategy that is.

Figured you guys would like this double cucking from last night.

>ceasar player: casts armageddon
>’any responses?’
>none
>’ok, then I..’
>inform the player that the spell resolves now, choose modes
>’naww I’m gonna respond to it, I can respond !!’
>get overruled by the table that he dindu nuffin and doesnt know the rules
>casts teferis protection to dodge his own armageddon
>return_the_favor-mirari-extended-edition.mp4
>copy armageddon and teferi’s protection
>cyc rift on my turn
>’you aren’t any fun to play with anon’

>>95993324
>wojak shit
didn't read

>>95993272
This is often cited but most of those "vacation" days were spent farming their personal fields so they didn't starve.

>>95993203
It is a pretty unattractive target unless it has a massively scary effect. And a total waste if it is an ETB effect

>>95993048
Why play removal when I'm just going to be raped by the other two players?
Stupid fucking defeatist mentality where my deck isn't able to do basic shit like not curve the commander so it can hold up protection.

>>95993324
>b4 """gameplay"""

>>95991897
They need to start rethinking land in general, especially for brackets. I can run a WURBG slop pile with shit that doesn't come in tapped like true dual and mana confluence and shocks and it's a bracket 2, but if I run a Moon effect suddenly my deck is cedh-adjacent and hard bracket 4.

If you can have a "few" tutors and game changers and only be bracket 3, you should also be able to have a "few" MLDs without immediately being lumped in with the good stuff sloppa bracket.

>>95993359
Actually b3 is unlimited tutors and b2 is "few" tutors because EDH players really have bought into the retardation that tutors somehow magically create more variance if they're not black-colored.

>brackets
lol

After dealing with smothering tithe and rhystic study and remora...

>Rhystic Rapist
2 G

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent has a creature enter, they may pay 2. If they don't, you get a 1/1 offspring token copy of that creature.


>Anus Fire
2 R

Enchantment

Whenever a source an opponent controls damages another permanent or player, that player may pay 2. If they don't, you make that player suffer that much damage.

>Strike Oil
2 B

Enchantment

Whenever a player plays a land, that player may pay 2. If they don't you get an extra land.

>>95993451
Some variant of rapist would be a cool card. Anus would need to be boros or maybe even rakdos and make it pay 2 life. Oil is gay and dumb and you should feel bad.

>>95993359
I think the problem with MLD is that in the context of commander is that on top of feeling like shit to play against anyway, the average commander mongoloid will just run shit that will absolutely grind the game to a halt with no way to break parity or regain advantage for themselves to close the game. I understand some mentally deficient individuals are okay with the tabletop equivalent of handing monkeys loaded shotguns but I'm not

>>95993451
I mean we have this, the closest to the rapist

>>95993359
Reminder that brackets are not solely based on game changers and land destruction.
Actually read the article and understand there is some nuance

>>95993451
>>Rhystic Rapist

>>95993359
>but if I run a Moon effect suddenly my deck is cedh-adjacent and hard bracket 4
wow it's almost like if i put demonic tutor in my pioneer deck it becomes a vintage legal (but not vintage viable) pile of shit

>white can't have good shit
Faggots

>>95993359
There are multiple aspects to it
>WotC historically only printing MLD that's immediately the nuclear option of haha all lands gone
>Many players getting pissy about it or the game "slowing down to a crawl" despite draw pass not taking any time if people were to actually pay attention
>WotC paying those players too much attention.
Like there's barely any effect like Urza's Sylex that slow down green's ramp without going full winter orb or armageddon.

>>95993542
>read the article
>"Just do what your vibes tell you!"

Real useful, great rules system!

>>95993676
They really should have guessed that autists would struggle to not see in black and white and that nuance eludes them

>>95993676
>read the article
>i hate what gavin is implying (but is too pussy to say it out loud) in how wotc views the format moving forward
>i will now cope by saying it's all vibes
kekypow

>>95993654
>Like there's barely any effect like Urza's Sylex that slow down green's ramp without going full winter orb or armageddon.
I genuinely hate this more than I can put into words. There is literally zero way to stop green's ramp other than waste counterspells on it, which why the fuck would you when you can counter board wipes/game-ending spells? There's no actual effects to stop/slow down ramp unless you go bracket 4+ with MLD

>>95993676
You WILL use brackets and you WILL like it!

>>95993686
Rules are meant to be black and white. "fluid rules" aren't rules at all.

>>95993746
Which is what's so motherfucking infuriating about the whole thing! They don't have actual concrete rules, they have "well uh just guess!" and have words like "few" and "a little" in the amounts of cards you can play.

>>95993746
They are not rules though.
They are guidance meant to help you make a decision as to where it should be, not hard rules.
I don't know why this is hard to understand for some people.

>>95993767
>They are guidance meant to help you make a decision as to where it should be, not hard rules.
>gavin literally said 3 tutors for bracket 2
>3 is not a hard rule
it's funny how (You) can't see what wotc is trying to do here
i guess that's why in the original brackets article they address slow minds like you and why they're taking it slow lmao

>>95993688
Genuinely, what is he implying? That formats like pauper, modern and standard no longer have space for casual play and if you want casual constructed play the format is commander?

>>95993654
What other effects are there like this? I’ve never even seen this card or similar being played

>>95993791
Are you genuinely retarded are are you trolling, I honestly cannot tell.
I feel like most of you have never looked at the articles and just gleamed random bits and pieces from here instead

>>95993814
congrats, you're too dumb to be part of the group
try to use your brain and think how a company can profit from making guidelines (hint: formats) in commander and maybe you'll be in the club

How the fuck do you balance this fuck on proliferate to proliferate payoffs, when im doing dry runs it always feels like i have too much of one and not enough of the other

>>95993867
So you are admitting they are guidelines and not rules, thank you .

>>95993882
you must be one of those retards that thought walking dead wasn't a sign of things to come
kekw pattern recognition is a skill after all

>>95993693
How many artifact boardwipes are you running in every deck to stop mono blue ramp?

>>95993908
>mono blue ramp
None of my friends run these decks, and I've seen none at the LGS. Green, though? Each has like 15+ pieces of ramp for lands alone

>Activate only once each turn
As bad as "activate as a sorcery". Lemme fucking pump this shit to the moon as a finisher goddammit

>>95993915
Fine. Grixis ramp, Aristotle. Unless you're telling me that the words "Arcane" and "Signet", usually in that order, are foreign at your table.

>>95993767
If they aren't rules then I have no need to follow them or obey them in any capacity and they have no method of enforcement. They are suggestions like you asking me not to do something. I can just say no.

>>95993814
A system where every rando who bought a precon must read articles on to understand is a failure from day 1.
>UGH DIDN'T YOU TAKE THE REQUIRED COLLEGE COURSE TO PLAY THIS GAME?!
No. Neither did anyone else with a life.

>>95993008
>verso has a magic card, kinda
Debating building this guy, is he fun?

>>95993951
>I can just say no.
so can people when you ask to join in for a game

>>95993951
Yes, that's always been the case
You don't have to play with brackets at all

>>95993943
>1-2 manarocks
>versus 15+ pieces of green land ramp
This should not be a difficult concept to understand. You're being stupid just for the sake of being stupid.

>>95993957
Yes I agree that's why I play cEDH Tivit control against them. Because I, an experienced player, should not be expected to take a college course on unspoken etiquette to play this game.

>>95993961
It is mid game so your only option is to scoop and then spend 5 minutes getting your shit together
At that point probably best to just leave the store if I were you.

>>95993797
it's almost like people already know not to pit a casual pioneer deck with a casual legacy deck and wotc is just trying to do the same thing with commander so that the UB commander they need to sell actually has a fighting chance and not be stomped to the ground by some "casual" rhystic study deck

>>95993966
A Talisman/Signet package alone is 7 cards of ramp in Grixis, and this is just the selection of cards so obvious even Timmy McNoGames can find them. You're chasing a boogeyman of bad deckbuilding choices (playing 15 ramp spells) when white has an entire identity slice based around mogging green's ramp.

>>95993977
ok midgame the first time around, what about every future time? if you're a nigger enough about being clear on the estimated power you will eventually rub off enough people that you just won't get games going being know as "the nigger who brings MLD and hard stax to bracket 2 games" regardless of what deck you try to pass off

>>95993997
>>95993997

NEw

>>95994017
This idea everyone uses brackets is cute. Few do.

>>95994046
if people can follow formats they can follow brackets
all it takes is a firm hand from gavin and a few events, ye of small mind

>>95993960
>verso
What the fuck are you talking about

>>95993879
Symptom of not enough card draw

>>95993053
You enjoy politicking/10

>>95994827
You enjoy being s hipster