Mark Rosewater's Crimes Edition

>Bans (New)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)
>Previously
>>95991542

>TQ
Why is he allowed to get away with his crimes?

>tq
who's gonna punish him? people keep buying shit regardless

>tq
you know the answer anon, but if you say it, enjoy your three day vacation from /tg/

>>95995719
Anon MTG is all Commander now.

>>95995708 (OP)
>TQ
What crimes? This game would be shit without him and you know it.

>>95995817
>What crimes? This game would be shit without him and you know it.
Anon, there is literally a pastebin in the OP called "WotC crimes"

>>95995829
in all fairness, the OP has two pastebins on the crimes of Mark Rosewater

>>95995829
>equating maro with wotc
He's already fulfilled his job, being the scapegoat.

>>95995865
>scapegoat
>Game Director since 2003
pick one

>>95995875
Be logical, anon. Do you think he's stayed in his position for years because he's good at what he does? No, he's there because he became the face of the company and people consider him to be the guy in charge, despite having multiple superiors. He can have whatever title he wants, it doesn't change what he actually does for wotc.

EoE spoilers next week
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/787882322917801984/maros-edge-of-eternities-teaser
Things:
• repeatable activated ability that lets you draw two cards and create a 2/2 creature token
• white card that can return noncreature, nonland cards from the graveyard to the battlefield
• another “Arch” charm
• card that makes you choose odd or even
• new artifact token called Munitions
• variant on devour
• card that lets you take control of an opponent
• legendary five-color artifact
• poison card
• card that grants an ability to Slivers

Rules text:
• “Whenever you play a land or cast a spell, draw a card.”
• “If it’s not a creature, it becomes a 0/0 Robot artifact creature.”
• “You may play lands from your graveyard.”
• “you may instead create that many copies of enchanted permanent.”
• “Artifact cards and red cards in your hand have”
• “put target creature from defending player’s graveyard onto the battlefield under your control tapped and attacking.”
• “The first spell each player casts during each of their turns may be cast without paying its mana cost.”
• “X is the number of differently named lands you control.”
• “Artifacts you control are Foods in addition to their other types”
• “Spells you cast have affinity for artifacts.”

Typelines:
• Creature – Jellyfish Scientist
• Creature – Insect Artificer
• Creature – Plant Scorpion
• Creature – Drix Assassin
• Creature – Elemental Lhurgoyf
• Creature – Mite
• Artifact Creature – Robot Pangolin
• Legendary Creature – Kavu Pilot
• Legendary Creature – Lobster Citizen
• Creature – Eldrazi

Names:
• Close Encounter
• Command Bridge
• Decode Transmissions
• Emergency Eject
• Invasive Maneuvers
• Lost in Space
• Nebula Dragon
• Space-Time Anomaly
• Systems Override
• Tractor Beam

Post your hopes, dreams or cries.

>>95995941
>new artifact token called Munitions
Hold up, didn't one of the leaked cards have a Lander artifact token? Are there two new ones this set?

>>95995941
>hopes
WotC HQ gets sucked down a sinkhole during peak business hours.

>>95995941
>EoE
Yeah, I'm totally going to buy a 4x playset of Tezz for $300 which is going to be bonkers broken as a card to play on turn 2, only to have him emergency banned within a month for "unfun play experiences."

Go get fucked, Mark.

nobody ever plays vehicles why do they insist? at least make them more playable

what tropes are they going for with EoE?

>>95996006
Because they are incredibly disconnected from reality.

>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70154&f=PREM
98 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70075&f=PREM
128 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69859&f=PREM
177 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69584&f=PREM
78 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69543&f=PREM
123 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68297&f=PREM
279 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68163&f=PREM
92 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68886&f=PREM
84 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM
66 players

Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

It's cool how they used the ban announcement to specifically mention Tezzeret in the "Vintage is fine!" section as a powerful card.
Like, thanks guys. The B&R announcement is absolutely the place to fucking advertise how you're going to break more formats. Very cool.

>>95996006
Designers pet mechanic they can't let go

>>95996006
>Nobody plays them in any constructed format
>Nobody plays them in EDH
>Barely anybody touches them in limited, you don't even want them as a last pick.
Clearly, it's the players who are wrong.
MORE VEHICLES!!! Except now without the vehicle synergies we've been building for a decade!!!!

>>95996037
Tezz will get Standard banned within 60 days of being released. He's busted af.

>>95996090
Man I WANT to play vehicles, but unless they're just straight artifact value piles they're complete ass.

They went and made pilots, but then they turned around and dropped crew requirements down to fucking nothing, and now the station mechanic has no interaction with it either.

If they errata'd pilot tokens and pilots to 3-crew, 3-mount and 3-station I don't even know if that would be enough to make them playable.

I will never have my goofy ass mecha tribal deck.

Could I run this in Pauper?
>4x Tormented Soul
>4x Changeling Outcast
>4x Bonesplitter
>4x Unexpected Fangs
>4x Dauthi Horror
>4x Dauthi Slayer
>4x Unholy Strength
>4x Darksteel Axe
>4x Victim of Night
>4x Dead Weight
>20x Swamp
What would my winrate be?

whoah... three mana to tutor a 1 cmc artifact into hand...

>>95995941
>>95996094
I can already tell that Tezzeret will ruin several formats. Tutora shit feeds on artifacts and can deploy a fucked up emblem that without taking into account is a 3 mana PW playable in ANY deck thanks to colorless. Fuck me I smell that Cutter scent again.

Would it even see play?

>>95996141
I tried brewing some Vehicles decks in Pio.
You can do some janky shit with them, like spamming board wipes in between swings. Vehicles stay safe from Supreme Verdict. It's a cool, though not particularly amazing, interaction.

Vehicles done right in you're path:

>>95996142
Its fucking pauper bro just buy the deck on mtgo and find out

>>95996141
>>95996159
I remember the good times of shocked with Esika and Consul… Shame format now is so fast you can’t dream of play such cards

make tap for mana count as crew. there vehicles are fixed

>>95996178
I already have it, it's my old monoblack evasion aggro deck without Inkfathom Infiltrator and some other cards.

Fellow insect enjoyers you think that tribal could become a thing specially after rotation? Something like Mice in Bloomburrow?

Wish something like this would be released in edge of eternities…
Warp Speed
Legendary enchantment 5WUBRG
At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, that player may pay X. If the player does, that players shuffles his or her library and reveals X cards at random. Any permanents revealed this way goes onto the battlefield. If any creatures were revealed this way, they will gain haste until end of turn. That player shuffles his or her library at the end of the upkeep. If X is greater than the player’s library, that player wins the game.

>>95996294
And any instants and sorceries revealed this way get put back into the library.

>>95995708 (OP)
why even ban cards in a dead format like standard
captcha: GG AM 0

>>95995941
>Hopes
A pushed, or at least decent, low-cost insect creature. I'm also interested to see what they do with spacecrafts and planets, hopefully they're not all sorceries on a stick!
>Dreams
Explicit insect tribal support, preferably something better than Swarmweaver and Aatchik.
>Cries
Set turns out to be as bland and irrelevant as Aetherdrift.
Just realized Tezzeret is the third colorless planeswalker they've printed this year in standard.

I think, without the pressure of ungodly retarded aggro you are going to have a lot more time to do things that aren't incredibly boring bog standard LE CONTROL! and LE ATTACK! strategies.

Monument to Endurance is a card I'd watch in the next iteration of Standard. I think discard has a lot of support, and we'll see if it gets anymore in Edge. Seems like the format might be not total ass, now that people will have even a single fucking turn to do anything but cast removal.

>>95996422
>Monument to Endurance
sweet card
idk how much good discard support there is in standard though.

I haven't played magic since the mid 2010's but I check these threads every once in a while. This many bans in standard seem pretty absurd, how bad was the format?

>>95996511
There's enough to ponder a list.
We'll have to see what Goon For Eternity provides.

>>95996515
>This many bans in standard seem pretty absurd, how bad was the format?
The worst it has been since Lin Sivvi, and possibly even worse than that.
It was utterly insufferable to a degree I can't recall ever experiencing in this game before.

>>95996034
I'll play premodern when I can build a deck in it based solely around making Ugin have sex with Bolas.

>>95996528
>The worst it has been since Lin Sivvi, and possibly even worse than that.
>It was utterly insufferable to a degree I can't recall ever experiencing in this game before
hahaha, lol, lmao even

Standard was fine before they printer Cutter. Worlds was won by Domain in a wide open meta. Aggro was easily defeated.
But as commanders and BO1 Arena players, none of you would know that.

>>95996555
>Standard was fine before they printer Cutter.

Monument to Endurance I guess could go in Naya Omnipotence (llanawar elves + seize the spoils, highway robbery, invasion etc) as a wincon and engine.
Or some kind of Artist's Talent deck could emerge (doubtful).
Blue has 2 good legendary merfolk looters so maybe there is something there as well.

>>95996599
>Blue has 2 good legendary merfolk looters so maybe there is something there as well.
My overall point is:
Before, there was literally nothing because every turn you didn't spend casting removal is a turn you are instantly dead. With Mice gone, Standard brews have at least some minimum amount of room to breathe.

>>95996573
It actually was fine tho

>>95996599
Mono Black Monument would be the funniest with Harvester of Misery, Liliana of the Veil, Rankle's Prank, Greed's Gambit, etc

>>95996616
Your gaslighting will not work, no matter how many times you repeat it.
The format fucking chugged flaming ass, mate. It fucking sucked. It was total, complete fucking shit. Every game in the format was shit. Every deck sucked to play and sucked to play against.

>>95996635
So you are saying it sucked to play against Dimir and Goglari midrange prior to Tarkir, so now that they banned all of the other decks, you'll be happy to play against Dimir and Golgari midrange again?

>>95996656
No I did not say that.

Gruul Delirium is finally viable again. Its my favorite pile of draft chaff strewn together by FOMO and Thornspire Verge.

Cecil
Forsaken Miner
Bob
Sephiroth

Is there a viable deck here?

>>95996677
Just put horse bob and last ride on top of evolved sleeper and you should have the suicide black shell

>>95996701
Last Ride is legendary, you never want to run more than 1 so it's more of an extra piece than a core piece.

>>95996677
>>95996701
I was going to go for Black Demons with Bob and Cecil but this sounds kind of based

>>95996663
spotted the Oculus player

>Mountains banned
>Stock Up becomes played in 80% of decks
STANDARD IS FLOURSHING

actually I'll have to play BW for Sephiroth to abuse Voice of Victory.
which means Enduring Innocence should also be in there.
just needs some cheap sac fodder and interaction.

>>95996742

4 Infestation Sage
4 Forsaken Miner
2 Nezumi Linkbreaker

4 Voice of Victory
3 Bartolome

4 Sephiroth
4 Enduring Innocence

4 Eaten Alive

This is where I'm at so far.
Need 2 more cards.

>>95996875
Your cut downs bwo?

i play mountain, tap it for grim lavamancer and end my turn

>>95996875
Elas il-Kor

eldrazi twin:
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7209491#online

4 Thoughtseize
4 Fatal Push
4 Duress
4 Leyline of the Void
44 Swamp

>>95996967
probably 2 Elas, 3-4 Deep-Cavern Bats, and a few more removal spells

>>95996142
>aggro
>no red or white
>black without artifacts or black card draw, which are the best in the format right now
too slow. does not deal with high tide which you would beat with pic related and duress

>join my city's cube d*scord
>see this

>>95996616
>>95996555
World Championship 30 was only a month after DSK released. It wasn't won by Domain, it was won by Dimir Demons, a deck nobody played even a couple weeks later. Maybe you're thinking of Pro Tour Aetherdrift, which was a complete shitshow, and the reason everyone wanted these bans months ago.

>>95997369
>Pro Tour Aetherdrift, which was a complete shitshow, and the reason everyone wanted these bans months ago.
but the metagame was so diverse before Cutter, anon, why are you lying?

>>95997313
based

>>95997313
I'd leave immediately so I don't get put on a list.
For anyone reading, I love my government and Israel's government

>>95996034
No the world is already bad enough.

>>95995708 (OP)
How do you call him in your language?
We call him Marcos "La Nariz" Agua de Rosa.

>>95997604
pretty much the same as you
>Marc Aigua de Roses

>>95997611
This poster is crypto jewish.

>>95997611
Marc Agua de Nariz.

>>95997604
>EL nariz
Mexico will reclaim their lands!!
COME HOME HERMANOS!!

>>95997678
but 'nariz' is a female name, thus "LA nariz" is not incorrect

>Design noticed that red was struggling very significantly following the release of EOE, so in the upcoming sets, we made some last-minute changes to a few mythic rares to make them a bit more exciting. We hope you'll have lots of fun with them in your Commander decks!

I'm starting to think that Cecil fucking sucks. Bro just makes me lose a bunch of life before eating a cut down or torch the tower. Only time he does well is with an early dark knight greatsword (flavor kino desu)

>>95996142
Victim of Night is bad compared to cast down.
The black aggro creatures are good, but don't justify running bad cards like unholy strength. You'd need card advantage like corrupted conviction.
Okiba Reckoner Raid is a must for this type of decks too, and less swamps in favor of trolls makes sense.

https://archidekt.com/decks/14224314/aristocrats_shell
What else do we add to the Aristocrats' standard?
Any cool combos in here i dont know?

>>95997826
he needs Chittering Rats is what he needs

>>95997861
>>95996875

I don't know what to play in Standard post-ban. I have a big mental hurdle because I don't want to engage with the Final Fantasy Universe Beyond.

>>95997893
Then play Dimir Midrange without Cecil. The deck is almost the same as before.

>>95997866
Based. Rats with scam package and corrupted conviction fuck hands up.

>>95997893
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7209422#paper

>>95996169
Are you ready to see lorwyn get raped x10 times worse than how they raped kamigawa?
Post the seer's parables.

>>95997895
>then play dimir midrange without cecil

>>95997893
just netdeck whatever you wins a tournament if you're too mentally disabled to brew

>>95997935
>I identify as a demisexual he/them treefolx
>pip you're a kithkin
>I'M A TREEFOLK TAKE YOUR HERBS YOU MENTALLY ILL ELF!!!!!!1!!!1!1!!11!!!

Enjoying cloud strife in standard and in pioneer/modern forever?

>>95997935
Why would anyone with that mindset even write to nosewater?

>>95996169
It's weird to me that champion never came back. It wasn't a top tier mechanic, but it sure as hell beats some of the shit they've reprinted since then.

>>95997992
Because it's hilarious to watch a kike make up bullshit in order to hide his actions trying to convince you that drinking poison is good for you.

How much are FF Play Boosters going to be worth relative to Collector's Boosters?
less than half as much right?

Is just me or there are not many FF cards actually playable?

>>95997313
How is it his government's fault that he has to work? Like what the fuck are these people complaining about?

>>95997935
How many groids in nu Lorwyn?

>>95998289
Terra and Esper Origin found their way into Gruul Delirium. Some Golgari meme deck managed to top 8 with Demon Wall + Innkeeper's Talent. Cecil + Bob shell is popping up between suicide black and a new iteration of BW Pixie

What the?
https://bsky.app/profile/magic.wizards.com/post/3lswbovuujo2k

You heard it first here, leyline of mutation is not a meme, its actually the best way to cheat out omni now
does not get stopped by graveyard hate
can be set up on turn 0 and play 100% interaction / dig spells in your deck, no graveyard filling necessary

>>95998378
>What the?
what?

>>95998379
Someone has a bunch of leylines of mutation to sell

>>95998426
$0.15 right now on tcgplayer
buy buy buy

starting town and overlord of the hauntwoods makes this shit trivial to pull off on turn 4

>>95998378
>twitter but even gayer
no thanks

>>95996034
Incredibly BASED format

>>95997313
Based.

>>95995708 (OP)
Why not just leave magic? It's never getting better, only worse. You have the endless universes beyond shitting up the pool, market manipulation out the ass and on top of it a company that lies to your face and tells you everything is peachy. So genuinely, why not leave that abusive relationship?

>>95998378
>xir/xe
in to the trash

>>95998378

>>95998378
>"I thought it was three," ze says.
LOOOOL

>>95998476
is this what boomers consider... "fun"?

Why didn't those fucks at WotC ban Amulet Titan?

>>95998576
>Why didn't those fucks at WotC ban Vivi
>Why didn't those fucks at WotC ban Treasure Cruise
>Why didnt those fucks at WotC ban Guide of Souls
The answer is Money.

my opponent got out an avenger of the fallen with mobilize 17
...I had 2x authority of the consuls

>>95998559
Yes. Unlike zoomers, we like to play games for fun instead of getting the 3 turn instant gratification wins.

How can someone resist playing against this Dimir slops? Cast my creature, removed, cast my creature, removed, he cast kaito a fucking value and damage machine, try to come back, sheoldred on the field...

Hell Cutter died for this?

>>95998519
>Injections of politics into the story
FOR FAR TOO LONG, FANTASY, AS A GENRE....

>>95998378
Reminder to NEVER click on or open a bsky link as all its traffic is on a public API, and it's the single most aggressive website in terms of tracking and fingerprinting on the entire internet.

>>95998378
>"I might be a tyrannical and genocidal interplanar psychopath, but rest assured I am an ally and I respect your pronouns sincerely" says Tezzeret
wtf I love EoE now

FTK in EOE or I riot.
Total monkey's paw as they will 100% give it stupid as fuck art, flavour text, etc.

time to make them suffer

>>95998753
>Total monkey's paw as they will 100% give it stupid as fuck art, flavour text, etc.
is it really a monkey's paw if you can play with whatever print you like?

>>95998763
>splashing blue for one card

>>95998763
I think if you me the deck FULL WHITE will more of a suffering. Specially for some anons here.

>>95998778
>they

how fucked up would be a real birthing pod or similar version reprint in Standard? Would that save us green bros?

>>95998576
Considering how much they’ve coddled amulet titan in recent years, the modern community would probably burst into flames if they even banned Aftermath Analyst or Arboreal Grazer, especially considering MH goodstuff is still at 14% on mtgtop8.

>>95998871
Yes. They is correct pronoun when referring to a plurality of beings.

>>95998876
There were many birthing pod like cards in Standard before, and they were always played.

>>95998883
Plurals are even more woke than troons.

>>95998917
>There are four men at the bar. THEY are having beers.
Sorry if you can't handle correct grammar.

>>95998927
>There are four men at the bar. THEY are having beers.
There are four men at the bar. He, he, he and he are having beers.

>>95998927
>gay bars aren't woke

>>95998927
>Sorry if you can't handle correct grammar.
Definitely no thou using a plural pronoun "you" to refer to one person, when complaining about other people being unable to handle grammar.
Embarrassing, honestly.

>>95998938
>He, he, he and he are having beers.
Or you can just use the plural pronoun and save space. Moreover, the more efficient using the correct plural pronoun is.

>>95998951
>no thou
This hasn't been part of the English language since the 15th century. It was well out of use even at the time of King James.

>>95998938
Imagine trying to alter the correct way of writing just because you are a woke faggot.

>>95998982
>This hasn't been part of the English language since the 15th century. It was well out of use even at the time of King James.
Total grammarlet cope.

>I'm cosplaying the slut I wish I could fuck

>>95998519
Boy do I ever love Universes Within!

>>95998993
Guy looks exactly the same but with long hair. Why do people fuck up their bodies for this?

>>95999023
Because a psychiatrist made a lot of money by fueling the (((pharmaceutic industry))).
Not counting female hormones on males give you brain rot and you eventually develop osteoporosis like a woman in menopause so they can sell you more meds and more treatments.
This is feminist abuse on men and I won't change my mind.
Pacified and feminized men easy to control that happily pay money they shouldn't have to.

>>95999048
*bone rot
I'm chuckling right now.

Bros why didn't they ban anything on pioneer?

>>95998993
Both of these would be fixed by getting dicked down by bbcs...

>>95999065
>Bros why didn't they ban anything on pioneer?
THE FORMAT.
IS HEALTHY.
AND DIVERSE.

>>95999065
Because nobody has played pioneer in like 3 years.
The only formats that get played are cummander, arena and modern but only because once you play 2k per deck you force yourself to play it even if it's a turn 0.9 combofest crap.

>>95997672
We'd never slander our (((friend))) like that.

>>95998719
This! Us boomers loveeee to play the game!
But never to win, no, no!
Us crybooms HATE being good at things! Wallowing in feces and mediocrity?
Now that is so good old school cryboom! Yup!

>>95999086
>>95999072
Here on 4chan we love pioneer it is the best format for us shitbrewerrs!

Is white weak?
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7209422#paper

>>95999023
Trannies who already fucked up their dick spread the HRT lie to other troonlets in order to cope with falling for the lie themselves. That they'd rather keep harming others than accept the fact that androgenization is irreversible is troonism in a nutshell.

SLIVERS AND ELDRAZIS IN THE SAME SET WOOOOOOOOO BE EXCITED GUYS!!

>>95999152
Yes.
Last threat white schizo fought all Jews and defecated them.
Not a single one could fight against my intellect and he proved that no white cards have ever been banned.

>>95999162
Based warrior for truth.

>>95999152
This isn't a white deck.

>>95998559
>zoomer doesn't understand play patterns
>zoomer doesn't understand that a game is based on percentages
>zoomer wants turn 1 wins so he can go back to paying money off his filthy (huh the autocorrect after filthy suggests me kosher, no it's not based on prediction) rich dad credit card for feet pics and scrolling instareddit and tiktok
A slower game with less resources (power points for example) allows for more decisions throughout the game and more interaction and games are less repetitive, not saying that even formats like scam modern don't have their fairly complex tree of decisions but a slower game is more ponderated and allows for more moves.

Premodern is trash that was solved long ago and never changes.

Limited remains the only truly based format, the very design stops it from being Jewed for the sake of constructed

>>95999159
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if all the sci-fi races got at least some support

>>95999159
BUT SPIDERMAN DOE

>>95999174
Don't drop trukes our local Nepo baby Brazil doesn't like it
>Inb4 coping about owning the cards while also shilling for people to fall for the scam format

>>95999178
fuck Spiderman AND Avatar

>>95999185
Pedo....

>>95999174
Premodern compared to standard lets you play kitchen table with homebrews since back then cards weren't injected into a format with a specific role in mind, now you just have to netdeck or play with suboptimal cards that do the same things of meta cards but worse, intended to be draft chaff.

How we all doing?

Y'all flourishing in here?

>>95998559
Why yes, playing an actual balanced format is fun.
But since you probably play standard and eat JotC slop by the spoon, chances are you wouldn't know what I'm talking about.
Here, kid. Let me school you on a thing or two.
Premodern is literally the most balanced format out of any that currently exist in this game.
You cannot find a more balanced format with as many viable top tier decks and choices as this.

>Please saar play my meme format for le epic casual shitter table please please please!! Let me beat you with survi please please please
>also don't bring proxies!!!
No, I don't think I will.

>>95995708 (OP)
>TQ
He's mossad. He's there to fuck up the company because it formerly produced entertainment that white men enjoyed.

>>95999152
Its only bad matchup in this meta is Mill and Duress into Kaito on the play.

>paupershill except shills a format that isn't even sanctioned
El-oh-el

>>95999216
Who are you quoting?

If you want a meme format then play Pauper which is surprisingly deep and well managed. It may be the best 60 card format unironically right now

>>95999159
This is the first time in roughly a decade I’ve actually been excited for the debut of a new set, and now I’m terrified because I just KNOW I’m either going to be extremely underwhelmed by spoiler season, the archetypes that look cool to me will either not get enough support or just get outclassed by oculus or token spam, or the Final Fantasy hype will die and no one will want to play standard with me.

>>95999216
Y-you can buy gold bordered cards instead!

>>95999249
>what are proxies and chinaman

>>95999224
Pauper is the inherent truke that destroys loony troony 4channies.
What troony 4channies want is a format that appeases their crippling asperger (premodern) or never forces them to improve as human beings (edh).
This is the reality of the matter, 4channers want to beat up players dramatically worse than them and never be challenged or forced to adapt, they want to splash in the kiddy pool forever and they get incredibly mad when forced to become good or face the fact they are God awful at their own hobbies.

>>95999262
Now allowed in premodern events (unsanctioned format, btw).

My issue with Premodern is mostly that it can't change, by design. To me that is just boring, it's not a real format. It might be fun to play once as a side event but nothing more.

>>95999265
Truth nuke

>>95999270
then why are gold border cards allowed? they have a different back

>>95996142
low. Like really low. Unholy strenght is not a playable card. However i fooled around with this bulid and it's pretty decent. Give it a try

3 Blood Fountain
3 Bonesplitter
3 Universal Automaton
4 Changeling Outcast
4 Cateran Persuader
4 Merciless Harlequin
4 Guildsworn Prowler
4 Malakir Blood-Priest
2 Thrill-Kill Assassin
4 Okiba Reckoner Raid
1 Snuff Out
17 Swamp
2 Bojuka Bog
1 Barren Moor
4 Morsel Theft

2 Nihil Spellbomb
3 Okiba-Gang Shinobi
3 Suffocating Fumes
2 Crypt Incursion
2 Snuff Out
3 Duress

4 llanowar elves
4 invasion of ergamon
3 cache grab
4 seize the spoils
4 marang river regent
4 the world spell
3 one with the multiverse
4 campus restoration
3 invasion of tolvada
1 invasion of arcavios
8 RG dual lands
4 starting town
4 thran portal
4 duals of RW, GW, UG, UR
1 forest

>>95999270
If you don't allow proxies in an unsanctioned format without jotc pointing a gun to your head you're a cuck of the highest order.

>>95999362
>blood fountain instead of hopeless nightmare in a deck that does not have refurbished familiar or creatures you want to get back from the graveyard
I don't like it

Imagine for a moment playing Premodern, a format that recieves 0 real support and is only played by brown people.
>But muh balance!!!
Nothing, not even those fake balance charts are enough to justify playing that slop.

>>95999065
>Bros why didn't they ban anything on pioneer?
Because WotC are a bunch of greedy assholes. They can't charge you with Horizons like they do in the paypig terrain and they know FF will 0 almost 0 play there so why even bother balance the format? Let just Red and things that fuck Red like Control or Greasefang run wild.

EOE story, episode 8. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/edge-of-eternities-episode-8
>We're now on Revision 14, following Sami and Tan on their way back to the Seriema, Sami experiencing a weird flash of deja vu or something
>This time, Sami is just knocked down instead of killed, and Tan drags them to safety
>Haliya's paralysed still, and Alph says he just saw her kill Sami and Tan, but he's not sure what's going on now
>Tan just says "maybe just put the rock back in stasis"
>Alph then explains what Haliya wanted him to do, to save somebody in the past, and asks if he even has that ability, and Tan bluntly says that he does, but he probably won't like the price
>Sami asks how the injector got through Haliya's armor, Alph says he has a hole
>And then a voice comes through Haliya's radio, Vondam saying they're moving to protocol seven
>Tan goes "ah fuck" and heads to the cockpit, Sami asks Alph if the rock can help
>Tan remarks, on his way, that using that rock's probably a really bad idea, Sami asks how it could get WORSE
>They decide to get out of there with what fuel they have and figure shit out later
>They successfully lift off, for lack of a more accurate term, despite getting banged up as shit by the Sunstar ships
>Sami says they're PROBABLY dead, but the Sunstar are just shooting to disable, they don't want to crash the ship
>Tan thinks they want the rock, Sami thinks they just want Haliya
>Tan goes "we need a scam to get outta here", Sami goes "hostage?" and before they can go and retrieve Haliya, she makes herself known with her weapon pointed between the two of them
>Cut to a bit ago, turned out her armor was able to administer a counteragent to the drug
>She definitely remembers killing Sami and Tan, but seeing that that didn't happen, she figures Alph used the artifact, but she thought she was armored against it
>She grabs Alph in a chokehold as soon as her armor gets her fixed

>>95999159
I will be seriously upset if Slivers or Eldrazi or both end being shit.

>>95999404
Someone already leaked the eldrazi.

>>95999388
>She's confused why protocol seven hasn't immediately been enacted, they should all be dead by now
>She then forces Alph to put the artifact back in the cask, then drags him to the cockpit
>She demands Sami to land the ship and open the distress frequency for Pinnacle, but Sami just points out the Sunstar ship behind them, the one that's just exterminatus-ing the settlement
>Haliya's stunned enough by seeing that that she's silent for a while, before asking why they haven't killed the Seriema too
>Sami can only say they don't seem to want to kill Haliya
>Sami says they saw an outcome of this sort of thing back on Sigma's Reach, but that event now never happened, but the outcome stayed the same
>So in a prior timeline, they were found on Sigma's Reach and the whole place was glassed
>Alph's just like "I didn't mean to, I just touched a rock"
>Haliya demands to be put on the frequency to ask why the hell they haven't destroyed the Seriema yet
>She demands they simply destroy the ship and stop killing the Kav, but they ignore her for a while until Vondam finally talks
>Vondam's not really willing to kill her, regardless of protocols, so he can only tell her to get the ship down and to let them retrieve the artifact
>Haliya says if they're killing every Kav in sight, they CAN'T spare her
>She gets no response, then goes on another track, trying to convince him that the artifact might've gotten to her, making her guarantee its escape, so for the good of the universe, she must be killed now
>Alph chimes in, saying "Forget the Sum. I said fuck it to my faith, you can say it to yours, don't you see what the hell is going on here, is that what you wanted to be part of?"
>She just tells him to shut up, calls him a coward who listens to a rock
>Sami chimes in, saying "Well, who are YOU listening to?"

if you want a meme shitbrew format then go play Alchemy
it's the lowest power level format, played exclusively by retards (like yourself), and the cards are so obscure that no one even knows what half of them do

>3 7 win drafts in a row in final fantasy with GW

I don't even think GW is that good in FF draft, but it seems like people really undervalue cards like Fat Chocobo or whatever it's called

>>95999472
Fat Chocobo is really strong but it's not undervalued, it's widely regarded as a bomb

>>95999485
It’s not a bomb but it is very good. I think it might be more than people are underdrafting green a bit

>>95996148
I miss tinker > darksteel > shape anew > blightsteel > win

>>95999472
just hit my 6th 7-win draft in a row
half of them were UR. I go out of way my to avoid GW, fuck that.

>>95999501
> tinker
Oops! Meant trinket mage!

>>95999472
I find people underestimating white all the time. Coeurl and fate of the sun cyst may not be stellar cards, but they're solid playables that can make a deck's bread and butter.

>>95999439
I don't think people are respecting just how fucking busted this card is.

>>95999447
>She tries to respond with some Summist argument, saying that while killing thousands might intuitively feel wrong, it might be necessary for the greater good
>Even as she says it, she doesn't believe it
>Tan just tells her to look, and she sees the settlement has been reduced to a ruin, and they're STILL firing on it
>And then the ship leaves, leaving a massive blast of radiation in its wake to kill whatever stragglers might be left
>Alph suddenly asks to get the rock, maybe he can use it to fix things, make it unhappen
>Sami says it won't work, it didn't on Sigma's Reach, there'll just be a ghost town, and everybody will still be gone
>Haliya makes one final desperate plea on the radio to kill her, because if nothing else it's simply hypocritical to let her live while killing so many
>No answer, so Sami just says "Well, guess we're going then"
>Tan flies them towards a nearby satellite, which the Sunstar ship immediately blows up before Tan can use it to redirect Kavaron's Guns at them
>Buut too late, and the tailing ship (not the one that was exterminatus-ing, a different smaller one) is blown up by a laser blast from the other half of the shattered planet
>Its crew DO apparently survive, but only just
>Tan gets the Guns to fire on the bigger one, but they've set up jamming so the laser misses
>But that's enough of a distraction for them to flee
>All Sami does is set the Seriema straight and lets the laws of motion do the rest, then unfurls a broken sail on the ship
>The sail is broken, but it still has a mirrored interior surface
>So the Guns lock onto the Seriema, hitting the sail at the right angle to boost the ship along WAY too fast
>The Sunstar ships are still faster, but the gap they've gained is enough for the Kavaron navy to fly out and accost the Sunstars
>And the Seriema goes off into space in a single direction

>>95999439
Eldrazi more like Eldabzi!

>>95999509
>LTB trigger
It's been pointed out as being totally busted every single time it's been mentioned. But they banned This Town so standard is saved forever!

>>95999370
>Go to premodern event
>Bring poxies
>Get kicked out

>>95999509
People, specially here, is bad at the game. They said Cutter was draft chaff, they are calling Tezz a shit and they said this card is not enough.

>>95999512
>Sami's authority is enough to get Haliya and Alph to stop trying to kill each other, but Haliya still isn't playing nice and is causing more damage
>So Tan yells at them to get the fuck out of his cockpit, and Sami goes to supervise
>Haliya is having a crisis of faith, as one does, wondering if Vondam is wrong, the Sum is wrong, or SHE is wrong
>Sami, Haliya and Alph have a discussion/argument about faith and what the Sunstar is trying to do (reignite Sothera), then eventually the two not-quite-faithful realise they're hungry and thirsty as hell, so Sami tosses them some food
>And they explain what led to Alph's escape together to Sami
>Eventually Haliya says she hasn't seen the artifact do anything bad, yet, it's only worked to save people that she's seen
>Haliya asks why Sami was searching for it anyway, Sami says it's a long story involving a wizard
>She works out her crisis of faith by talking it out, and all she can come to a conclusion on is she can't trust the Sum anymore
>Her and Alph have a brief toast and kinship before Haliya says they should destroy the artifact, Sami says hell no, they need to get it to the Metalman
>Then Sami explains they're looking for their cat
>Haliya and Alph both seem a bit more amicable to talking about that
>And they both go "Sure, why not, we'll help you find the cat"
>Eventually, after more arguing, Sami says they're off to see the Metalman, Haliya asks who he is, Sami explains he's a metal man, and eventually says 'he's the wizard'

>>95999359
You can't tell with opaque enough sleeves. I.e. black matte. They're allowed so that you can play with more affordable versions of the card that haven't gotten reprints.

>>95999509
>4 cost vanilla that exists for 1 turn and lets you play a 4 cost for free
>busted

>>95999578
Reading the card explains the card.

>>95999388
>>95999447
>>95999512
>>95999557

So finally after two weeks of sci-fi flagellation we will see Tezzeret for two minutes before the Endstone vanishes from an unseen force. Glad we wasted another "hat" setting.

>>95999592
I've read it. It's literally not good at all. It's a vanilla that you can cast turn 4 to cheat a 4-cost permanent out of your hand (instead of, you know, PLAYING THE 4 COST) and then cast later for 6 to maybe cheat out a 6 cost or bigger if the enemy kills it.
If it was any card, not just a permanent, you could maybe cheat out Inevitable Betrayal or Crashing Footfalls, and even then it'd be mid as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXFfqeC5Mo
legacuck status?
buck broken

>>95999555
It isn't that strong*


*In modern/legacy (nvm this releasing into a standard with a really, really strong lamp-based ramp core of cards).

I am going to make a sign for my pod table, "no universes beyond." Fucking hate all this multiverse enshitiffication, have to rule 0 the whole table so i d9nt drown in crossover slop.

>>95999509
I can see it being a nice value piece in blink decks, especially in modern. Not sure if it’s “busted”, but I’m probably underestimating the capabilities of vomiting cheap permanents onto the battlefield.

>>95999555
It's pretty easy to underestimate cards you haven't played with, someone here actually thought Lightning was a playable magic card in 2025 though.

>>95999660
The thing is that these permanents are put into the battlefield from your hand so you also need a ton of draw alongside the blinking. it's on the level of karlov manor Vannifar

>>95999678
Wouldn't having two of these let you draw your entire deck for 4 mana?

I haven't played since like 2015. I still have my legacy deck. is it worth getting back into the game or should I just sell my cards? I read a bit here and there and it seems that everyone is just playing commander now ??

>>95999726
they only trigger the effect when they leave and they leave into exile, so i'm not sure how you think they'd do that

>>95999736
Sell your duals to coomander players before they print strictly better spooderman ones or ban them to bracket 5 for being toxic.

>>95999678
>The thing is that these permanents are put into the battlefield from your hand so you also need a ton of draw alongside the blinking.
>When ~ enters, draw a card...
READING THE CARD
EXPLAINS THE CARD

>7/5 french vanilla
>Cheats in a permanent with CMC equal to your lands on LTB
This is pretty mid ngl.

>>95999678
It does draw you a card every trigger, which will probably be enough to at least get you a free land even if you have nothing else in hand.

>>95999761
mid but fun

>>95999761
no its actively bad
if you cast this for 4 mana on turn 4 it does literally nothing whatsofuckingever
that makes it the worst thing of all possible in MTG: a dead card in hand
that is the absolute baseline to compare to a wood elemental or sorrow's path

if you cast this for 4 mana, you can put a 4 mana card onto the battlefield, then get this back to exile where you can now cast it, for its full cost. Which is exactly the same as if you had just cast the 4 mana card from hand and kept this card in hand, where you could cast it, for full cost.
All this does is 'fix mana' for a 4 drop which is stupid and pointless

it NEEDs to combo to do anything. it needs to station, it needs to crew, it needs to skip an additional cost or something, and then its just fucking shit at doing so because the baseline is doing literally nothing
hopeless nightmare is a bullshit card, a black 1 mana discard + red 1 mana shock to the face, for 1 black mana. Then when you combo it, it recurs, it comes back and loops, its fodder for sacrifice, its a free scry 2 when you do, etc etc. So it got banned for being too good
and that was a 1 drop

this is a 4 drop that does nothing

>>95999380
fair, i wanted early game filtering for 1 landers and late game advantage, but feelfree to change it for either nightmare or omen of the dead

>>95999794
This. There are going to be good Warp cards, but I don't think the Eldrazi is one of them. It is cute to cast this for 4 when you actually have 6+ lands and you get "both" effects but you could be doing literally anything with 6+ mana that gives you cards and threats...

>>95999794
>in one month we will remember this anon
it's happening again...

>>95999794
>if you cast this for 4 mana on turn 4 it does literally nothing whatsofuckingever
I cast Anticausal Vestige for four (4) mana. I draw a card and put a Beza into play, gain 4 life, draw a card and make a Fish. Pass turn having gained two points of card advantage.

Wow, that's a lot of nothing!

>>95999794
>4 mana 7/5 cantrip that also fixes mana and interacts with haste, flash, bounce, and landfall
So you're just bad, then.

I don't know man. Evoke but it stays for the turn and you get to play the big side later just seems like a retarded idea that should have never gotten past the concept phase.

>>95999794
>if you cast this for 4 mana on turn 4 it does literally nothing whatsofuckingever
You can attack with Phelia to get its trigger immediately and still get the creature back. It also synergizes with Ketramose to let you draw two cards instead of just one before playing something. At the absolute worst, you can burn it, Solitude and a white card to gain 7 life, draw a card and play an additional land.

>>95999794
>it NEEDs to combo to do anything.
Anon, you play it and slam down a 4 drop, then you play it for 6 later and then JUST GET TO PLAY ANOTHER ONE FROM YOUR HAND WHEN IT DIES WHILE YOU HAVE 6 OR MORE LANDS.

It's a fucking midrange game obliteration machine. What the fuck card would ever be able to deal with that much pressure and tempo in the midgame?

>>95999853
Plot is fucking good and I really hope they do it more. Quite literally the only good thing to come out of OTJ and proof that current era WotC can luck into good mechanic design now and again.

>>95999867
Plot had some shit interactions and busted cards but it was fine.
Spree was a pretty elegant way to handle versatile multikicker and I liked it too.
OTJ would have been a great set if the power level wasn't ass backwards, and the lore wasn't the shittiest fucking garbage ever.

>>95999867
I hope they erata the rule for plot so you have one turn to use it or it's gone forever.

>>95998993
I would fuck xer
>>95999439
disgusting. At this point I m just waiting for the Fomori(giant) with hightech armor and scyfy weapon and slivers as hunting hounds...

I, for one, can't wait for Anticausal Vestige reanimator where you just have to chop through a literally endless loop of 7/5s that puts a copy of itself from hand onto the battlefield no matter if you remove it with destroy, exile or bounce, leaving you LITERALLY zero ways to actually deal with the problem available in the entire fucking game that isn't exactly Humility.

>>95999647

I'm gonna call it "pre-bracket commander." No UB shit, no fucking genderchanger bracket rules. You talk like a fucking adult and play like one.

I'd call it adult commander if it didnt have obvious connotations/innuendo.

Travelling Chocobo uses the old "Entering the battlefield" wording.
WotC, they changed that shit a fucking year ago. Hire a fucking editor for fuck sake.

I'm so tired of this combo shit disgrace... You hated Red but at least it was not "I bring back this huge shit cheating and win the game *shake hands*" absolute vomit.

>>95999907
"Enters" by itself was always a shit wording and if they've reversed that decision, I applaud it.

>>95999917
They have not reversed the decision. Panharmonicon remains errata'd. Travelling Chocobo's wording is just an error.

>>95999907
Unironically the best thing to come out of the set, fuck "enters" and anyone who defends it

>>95999924
"enters" is cheaper.

>>95999907
If only they didn't reprint landfall a billion times I would overlook the idea that they were trying to force landfall decks.

Also, belated, but today's story contains the first use of 'fuck' in Magic's story that I can recall (maybe a book had it somewhere but I don't know/remember).

>>95999943
Oh boy I love millennial writing!!!

>>95999794
hewwo :o
jk this deck is dead

>>95999928
Worthless platitude as they are dead-set on covering cards in more words than ever (on more than one side, even).

>>95999827
I cast Beza for four (4) mana. I put Beza into play, gain 4 life, draw a card and make a Fish. And another Fish, the one you forgot. Pass turn having gained the same points of card advantage, because having an Anticausal Vestige as a dead card is -1 card advantage.

>>95999957
naw I'm running it with leyline of mutation, its still a good card in a new deck

>>95999961
Okay but now you don't have a free 7/5 on top of that. So the player that cast Anticausal beats the player that just cast Beza, every time.

>>95999970
Overlord ramp is gigacooked mate, zero good card draw, beans is a make-or-break card.

>>95999977
I just told you its a different deck

Its the new omniscience combo shell, turn 0 leyline, t3 overlord, t4 omniscience for WURGB

>>95999990
Yes, a dogshit deck, we get it you want to talk about your shitbrew, go ahead show the class the steaming pile and pretend it is good.

>>95999928
Not having 70 lines of text on every uncommon+ is also cheaper yet here we are

You now remember tiny leaders

>>96000001
You said the same thing about abuelo's awakening and now its banned.

>>96000037
Yeah man, one card reanimation is equal to 4+ cards to ramp out to more ramp.
Man, you people can't stop catching Ls.

>a white card got banned
So what is the cope from that guy who insists wotc hates white?

>>96000087
See last thread I destroyed all of you.

>>96000087
It doesn't count because... It just doesn't, okay???

>>96000093
All you did was have another meltdown. Feel free to have another one this thread. I wanna see how long you can keep this up.

>>96000087
Already covered.

>>96000114
Reminder!
>White deck
Pre-modern monowhite aggro
>Non-white deck
Any deck using cards made after premodern released
Hope that explains it for you xoxoxo
t. Paulo 'Premodernfuhrer11' Ribeiro

>>96000087
his mental illness is surprisingly still not cured.
mono white is also the best deck in standard currently and that didn't fix his obsessive schizophrenic disorder either.

>>96000093
>Destroyed
Wew must be hard having such delusional and schizophrenic mind... You even imagine people and situations never happened like a faggot.

can i trade in whiteschizo for old thaliaschizo, that would be a huge upgrade

Post your 5-0 decklist and I'll explain to you why it actually isn't white.

>>96000140
If multiple cards needed to be banned from other colors for White to be the best color, then it doesn't count and you know it. Same applies for rotation.

>>96000158
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pauper-mono-white-aggro-6b67ea64-5bde-42ea-8d1a-93578d3e3f3c#paper

If your """white""" deck contains a colorless nonland card, it's not mono-white.

>>96000165
Pauper doesn't count

>>96000158
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-mono-white-token-control-dmu#paper

>>96000189
too many plains

I haven't played Standard since WOE but seeing red getting kneecapped has me interested again
Is Sheoldred back?

>>96000170
>Yfw a "white" deck is in a non-white format
>Yfw a "white" deck has non-whites in the art
>Yfw a "white" deck has nu-design (etb slop, free value slop, colored artifacts)
>Yfw a "white" deck is new border cards
>mfw southrons think these can ever be white decks

>>96000189
Doesn't count. You think we wouldn't notice those fountainports? Definition of a Fake White deck.

>>96000170
>>96000213
Is this some kind of joke post or is this anon really mentally ill?

Anyway, there's also a side story, forgot about that. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/edge-of-eternities-compact-me-to-zero
>We're with a Monoist Squad Captain, Reen, on the station called Infinite Guideline, the last stop before leaving Sothera
>She's on some sort of pilgrimage
>Reen's alone, keeping an eye out for Summists, but mostly just watching the crowds of various peoples
>She sees a lot of people fleeing the system, refugees of a war that she, in part, is the cause of
>A captain she's talking to asks her where she's headed, she says Point Prime
>The captain says no chance, he can only take her to somewhere else, so she moves on
>She keeps going through freelancer after freelancer, and none of them are willing to take her to Point Prime
>She knows why, there's rumours of Eldrazi and slivers and Drix assassins and who knows what else, mostly exaggerated rumours probably
>But the captains' fears are real, regardless of the rumours being real, and that leads her to think maybe this pilgrimage was a mistake, that she's meant to be back on Susur Secundi
>She's ready to contact her superiors by the time she gets to the last ship in the line
>It's a rusty-looking thing, and the pilot seems to be a mechan of some sort, who very immediately goes "Oh, you're going to Point Prime? So am I."
>Not wanting to ask questions, she introduces herself to the mechan (who introduces itself as Too Much Happiness, also its ship name, it's sort of part of the ship best I can tell)
>She makes a quick offer, TMH accepts, and she's on board in a few hours
>She's not the only passenger, of course
>And as she enters the cargo hold, she meets three others, all of them Summist soldiers
>One of the soldiers looks at her, but she's just dressed like any other person, no identifying Monoist marks at all, and he doesn't seem to recognise anything
>As Reen sits in her cabin, she stares in a mirror and realises she's looking a lot more uncertain now

>>96000228
Post hand holding deck.

>>96000228
Cope and seethe, Nosewater

>>96000189
>Half the format has to be banned for this to win once
Not a real deck, nor white as it uses nu-cards.

>>96000165
>Pauper
Literally not a real format, inherently a black negro format.

>>96000230
>Eldrazi
>and Slivers
>and Assassins
oh my!

>>96000231
Post last mental health test.

>>96000087
JotC does hate white.
>Crusade
>Cleanse
>Jihad
Middling cards banned from legacy because JotC hates white people. Because somehow destroy all "black creatures," "White creatures get +1/+1," and "White creatures get +2/+1 as long as the chosen player controls a nontoken permanent of the chosen color" is somehow racist. They also banned Felidar even though it was Saheeli that was the problem. Felidar is a middling card without Saheeli.

Moreover, four mana cost resurrection has been in standard several times before before. Replenish which was not banned from its standard is still stronger than Abuelo. A few years ago there was Redress Fate which could be played for four if drawn during the turn and Resurgent Belief which let you do the same thing but with plot for 2 mana. Black still has Zombify, a four mana cost resurrection for creatures. Abuelo has been in the format for more than a year before Foundations.

It wasn't until after foundations released omniscience that the omniscience deck was even a thing. They're using White as a scapegoat when Omniscience was the problem. Abuelo was only ran to get omniscience out of the graveyard. Then omniscience was the card that did everything for the deck. Fact of the matter is that JotC hates white. They hate white people. Whenever they ban a white card, usually something else is the problem.

>>96000253
>Deflection+adhom

>>96000264

>>96000267
>Deflection
>Said the man who refuses to recognize plains deck as white decks
You need therapy... Or something else.

>>96000230
>She quickly prays and psyches herself up, reminding herself of the Faller finding purpose, so she can too
>Then her reflection talks to her as TMH turns out to have been listening, and she's like "What the fuck I want my privacy"
>TMH apologises, saying there's been minor glitches in recent days in their behaviour
>She's informed they're about to go on one of the columns, and she can take a look outside if she so wishes
>She does, and does enjoy the view of infinity, which she reminds herself must all eventually become still
>That reminder doesn't really sound right to herself as she says it, but ah well
>Reen, later, cannot sleep
>The sleeping pod is too much like the pod she fell to war in, and it's giving her flashbacks
>So she gets up, and does the only thing she knows how to do to relax herself, which appears to be self-done tattooing
>TMH interrupts again, asking about her tattoos, saying the sound of a needle entering skin repeatedly is pretty distinctive and they overheard
>She explains it's not art, it's record-keeping
>TMH goes "Oh I keep records too, electrically of course, not marking my own hull", and she points out SOMETHING marked it, the ship did look pretty beat up
>TMH says it happened on a trip through the Wurmwall, she asks when, why
>TMH says it was a week ago, suddenly feeling compelled to do something when they were nearby the Wurmwall
>They entered, and met... Somebody, they don't remember who, but things have been different since, things feeling more and more 'inevitable' lately
>She seems a bit spooked by this, asks TMH if it's had a diagnostic lately, which it responds by asking if SHE has, and she asks what it's on about, TMH says she's clearly is psychological distress, hence it keeping her company
>She decides to go on a night-time walk with TMH's guidance towards their memory cores

>>96000281
Post hand and deck. That's all you have to do to win.

>>96000264
>Whenever they ban a white card, usually something else is the problem.
Whenever they ban a white card, *always* something else is the problem.
ftfy

>>96000283
>sorcery
almost good...

>>96000283
>or Spacecraft
OH BOY I LOVE ALL VEHICLE INTERACTIONS BEING OBSOLETE WHAT GOOD GAME DESIGN

They literally could have just called them Vehicles and had a different mechanic than Crew to get them online. It is that fucking easy. But no.

>>96000285
Post last mental health test, that's all you have to do to stop being considered an schizophrenic man.

>>96000230
I actually really enjoy your storytimes, story anon.

CAPTCHA: VNGGA

>The entire art direction for EoE is just
>"Put a black hole on it and make it lame and gay."

>>96000283
So this will be another Artifacts matter set? I really wanna play artifacts finally.

>>96000000

>if your deck contains any lands other than basic plains, it is not a white deck
>if your deck contains any artifacts or colorless cards, it is not a white deck
>if your deck contains any cards with only one white pip, it is not a white deck
>if your deck contains any cards ever used in a non-white deck, it is not a white deck
>if your deck contains cards drawn by a non-white or representing a non-white, it is not a white deck
>if your deck contains cards printed after the 20th century, it is not a white deck
>if you are not white, neither is your deck
>the ONLY exception to this is Invoke Prejudice, which is a white card and should be treated as such

Look at it this way, did mono-red need some bullshit utility land like Fountainport in order to function? Did mono-red need busted colorless artifacts to function?
No? That's why Fake White decks don't count. They rely on cards that LITERALLY ARE NOT WHITE!!!

>>96000317
>>96000324

>>96000283
>Sacrifice a non token shit
>Destroy target creature or artifact
There, made the card better and more restricted without being pozzled with a mechanic that people don't care since day 1.

>>96000283
>A brief chat between the two about where they grew up (her in variable gravity, and no further details, TMH in code, the one who was the ship beforehand deleting themselves a year ago leading to TMH inheriting the body)
>She takes a look at TMH's cores, trying to determine if they've been truly tampered with
>She sees... Something, that's definitely not a Sunstar tampering, but she can't quite tell what it is, so she asks TMH about the stranger, and what they spoke of
>TMH says many things, all of which were inevitable
>She starts to put some pieces together before a voice interrupts her
>One of the Sunstar men arrives, pointing his weapon at her, and demands she surrender
>She gets down on the ground, claims to just be a technician, but the guy looks at her scars and tattoos, noting they're warnodes, whatever those are, but that makes it clear she's lying
>TMH privately informs her that a sudden light malfunction is about to occur, and the lights all go out, given her the time to turn around and stab her tattoo needle into his eye and run
>She rushes to the cargo hold, asking TMH if they can lock the door, but they can't, it would demonstrate favoritism, she suggests having another malfunction
>She gets to her suitcase, managing to get her alabile armor out and onto her just as the Sunstar men break into the cargo hold after her
>She activates her gravity gauntlets and seems to very quickly deal with them
>Later, she's approaching Point Prime
>She feels hollow after all that, TMH seems upset about seeing death so close for the first time
>TMH asks about what her tattoos are records of, the fallen or the felled, she says both
>TMH asks her about Joska, where an atrocity that broke the fragile peace occurred, which was where she had flashbacks of, while she adds more to her records
>TMH asks what she'll do when the records start to overlap, she says she'll condense and be still
>Then they approach Point Prime in silence

the fags at WOTC are always dredging up old mechanics for random one-offs in UBslop or commanderslop or UB commanderslop and I just want to know when those fucking cowards will finally print a new card with banding on it

>>96000317
>>96000324
Complete and utter seethe and self conflagration in the face of absolute irrefutable truth.

>>96000228
he's been obsessively spiraling over this shit here for literal years at this point.
you know how every general on gen z-era 4chan has at least a couple mentally ill social media addicts who post the same easily-identifiable shit every day?
well he has the worst mental health of the ones here.

>>96000384
I'm still holding out for a new card with Dredge on it.
a UG card with Dredge 1 would probably be Vintage playable even if it were an otherwise blank piece of cardboard

SUS

new color just dropped: fake white

hehe...dune...

>>96000428
oh so planets are just station lands? that's kinda boring

>>96000428
Man the Station vehicles were bad enough, these Station lands are fucking awful.
Comes into play tapped, only gains another ability after tapping 12 total power of creatures and even then it requires 3 tapped lands to use its ability and also only at sorcery speed...

>>96000428
What is that 12? Fucking in anything 12 Seems to much for that dogshit effect also
>Enters tapped
Aaaaaaand into the trash

>>96000452
12 charge counters. You can tap creatures to add charge counters to it equal to their power.

>>96000470
>tap 12/12 you cheated in to station land
>pay 2 life and 2 mana to draw 12
sounds balanced

>>96000428
This basically confirms the not!Academy and not!Cradle versions as well, right?

So we fucking agree that this set is trash?

>>96000522
Maybe for you and the rest of whiny faggots i will wait to see Insects, Eldrazi and Slivers to give my honest opinion but i expect more of this set than FF trash, and let's not even mention ATLA or Spooderman.

>>96000522
Who knows. Probably gonna be cringe, but that's a given.

>>96000522
Which set?

>>96000428
Abysmal dogshit, unsurprisingly

>ban a few gamebreaking cards and some that were only gamebreaking because of all the other stuff printed
>release another set with even more broken crap
Is it that time again?

>>96000575
100%

>>96000428
cards so shit it has to be real. no faggot would come up with a card that requires mana, tapping of creatures, tapping itself plus paying life to activate an ability restricted to sorcery speed like its a fucking new player introduction set like Portal AND COMES INTO PLAY TAPPED

>>96000575
I love the year 2019+6

>>96000575
>preemptively ban up the beanstalk due to upcoming cost-reduction cards
you tell me.

>>96000428
>Enters tapped.
>12+
>Waste TWELVE power worth of swings just for the privilege of paying mana AND life to be able to sacrifice your own creatures AS A SORCERY.
Sweet baby Jesus fucking Christ, Wizards doesn't give even the remotest of fucks about these cards being even the tiniest bit playable playable holy shit.

>>96000306
Bolas's black hole is quickly turning into a white hole thanks to Ugin.

>>96000659
>Bolas's black hole is quickly turning into a white hole thanks to Ugin.
Heh.
Heheh.
Dragon semen.

>>96000664
>>96000664
>>96000664
>>96000664
>>96000664

Where this Bolas gay shit comes from?

>>96000696
>He doesn't know about the canon Bolas + Ugin sex scene that's actually in the real Dragonstorm stories.
shiggydiggydoo

>>96000696
>Bolas and Ugin touched horns affectionately.
>"I love you, brother."
This might have contributed to it.

>>96000731
>STEP GHOSTDRAGON, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

>>95998927
I think he was referring to plurals also known as a system "someone who shares the same physical body with other individuals." It is a hypernym of Dissociative Identity Disorder-like delusions.

>>96000696
The Tarkir story has everyone walking in on them literally fucking, followed by them remarking they're in love and devoted to each other.

>>96000428
There better be an enchantment that says something along the lines of: whenever you tap a creature to crew or station, untap that creature. You can only do this once per creature.

>>96000428
The green planet is rumored to be just Gaea's Cradle at 12 mana.

>>96000694
NonSchizo thread here
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>>96001022
>>96001022

TQ: Honestly at this point the in universe sets are so fucking cringe I wish they would just stop and only do UB

>>95999512
I do like how the sail became useful after being mentioned back at the bottom of the flight plan back at the beginning. A fun way to make Tan's former gunnery skills important here.

>>95999362
wtf this actually wins?

>>95997146
maybe they should ban gay-ass high tide then
>artifacts
I did have equipment but I know that's not what you mean. What would you recommend.
>black card draw
So like maybe Serrated Scorpion and saccing that with like Corrupted Conviction?

Thoughts on the price of FF surge foil commanders? I feel like they have to keep trending down but who knows...

>>96000317
>soul sisters and white weenie isn't white
Now you're just being silly.

>Mfw I read the white schizo posts
>Mfw half of them are hilarious satire
>Mfw /troongoyim/ is so low functioning aspergers/ASD they don't get it
Lmao, tracks you all want to play retarded shit like premodern.