Early rotation edition

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>News & Reminders
Cori-Steel Cutter, Abuelo's Awakening, Monstrous Rage, Heartfire Hero, Up the Beanstalk, Hopeless Nightmare, and This Town are now banned in Standard
Cori-Steel Cutter is banned in Alchemy
Tibalt's Trickery is banned in bo1 Pioneer
Counterspell is unbanned in Historic
Arena Direct: Final Fantasy July 4-6; chance to win two Final Fantasy Play boxes
Pro Tour Final Fantasy won by Ken Yukuhiro (Mono-Red Aggro, Japan, he/him)
Legendary Vehicles and Spacecraft can be your commander in Brawl starting with Edge of Eternities
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-june-30-2025
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA

>TQ
Were the Standard bans justified?

ten million thousand percent yes they were justified. if anything they didn't ban enough.

Yes, the Standard bans were justified. Nobody was playing the new FINAL FANTASY© cards at Pro Tour Final Fantasy so the meta needed to rotate to new cards.
>t. Hasbro

So is standard saved or what

is the secret to winning brawl just to play a lot of cheap removal and hope your opponent concedes on turn 2 or 3? thats what its starting to feel like at least

>>95996905
They killed all the meta decks though its pretty much a matter of time till the meta ajusts. Mono red is already figuring out some new BS. Vivi is the better izzit deck anyway. Its a little better but its not like the power level isnt still fuckin insane. If you hated seeing mice and sky cutter then youll be happy at least.

Could a vampire deck be good in Brawl? Arena doesn't have the good Edgar Markov so idk.

>>95997034
Im pretty sure you will be able to win some games

>>95997034
yes and yes

>>95996905
you probably have a week or two where you can play whatever you want (as long as your brew can beat UB Kaito)
then who knows

Between This and Fynn, I wonder if it would be possible to make a Poison Counters deck after Rotation

>>95996905
For about 2-3 weeks, before the next most powerful decks get figured out and a new meta emerges to make standardbabs piss and shid themselves screeching for more bans. The format is fundamentally broken, not the cards. The real solution was invented 20 years ago but none of you are willing to admit the truth that EDH is fixed Magic.

Is Bloodthirsty Conqueror + Vito a oneshot infinite combo or am I misunderstanding something?

Which of these should I pop a wildcard on?

>>95997287
This is a fahrenheit 451 reference

>>95997034
Florian is strong as a vampire commander, one of the most winningest brawl decks i've made. I have treid to make a mardu build with snapdax as the commander but it's not too strong.

>>95997642
for brawl? agatha as it can go in all decks

>>95997642
Agatha, then furry Ral

Some fun/jank brews or buildarounds for Standard?
I'm running out of ideas.

>>95997752
try making a Duelist of the Mind deck

Pathetic

>Cascade brawl is back
Lol, lmao

Blacklisted do not engage

>>95997812
now that's a brawl deck

>tfw they emote "Nice deck!"

>>95997812
Mine went:

Turn 1: Tamiyo -> Crashing Rhinos
Turn 2: Pump spell -> Pump spell, swing
Turn 3: Pump spell -> Pump spell, swing

They were more or less dead if I were on the Play or if they played anything unoptimized for their free cascades. Deck had a mix of mostly pumps, some unsummons (in case opponent had Rhinos too) and some protections in case they left open black, blue or white mana. If they tapped out or didn't play significant blockers then it was pump town for me. Only thing better than Rhinos would be that Cultivator deck going first; Jace + Treasure Hunt + 98 Islands is fine too but is slower than other options and in case of a stray instant Jace destruction you lose

>>95997941
>about to win the match
>spam 'nice deck!' before my final attack until they concede

>>95997951
You sound like an Izzet player.

>>95997965
nope, mono red and mono black
standard BO1

>>95997945
Yea I swapped from cultivator to Jace just because his combo is a million times faster than just putting lands onto the battlefield 1 by 1

is historic still forced to play with alchemy shit or did they finally separate alchemy from everything? I dont know what ranked mode I want to make a deck for.

>>95997812
gonna play this abomination

>>95997812
>cast esika
>get tibalts
>cheat cultivator
>cultivator draws through your entire deck
>assuming opponent doesn't kill it with a spell it's still got summoning sickness
>pass turn
>opponent goes
>your turn
>you draw and lose

>>95997769
I've been trying but I just don't get it
I need to draw on my turn for it to do anything
My first instinct was Dimir with Phyrexian Arena and maybe stuff like Gixian Puppeteer and Sheoldred, but that was too many pieces and Duelist was easily the worst card in the pile

Is there some secret to this card?

>>95998215
Its a may ability so you stop before you run out of deck then untap and either win with colossus or with your creature and ping lands or just run mazes end

>>95998238
>Is there some secret to this card?
i'm trying to find it myself lol. i am also going dimir but found that it works nicely with Proft's Eidetic Memory to get a big vigilant flyer. Still playing with it, this is what i have so far. could use some advice. I don't think Duelist is a good card but for some reason I like it and want to make it work.

>>95998215
you can decline the trigger anon. And if your 90/90 gets removed you're untapping with 90 mana and 10 manlands

>>95998313
The biggest issue is that a lot of the your-turn draw cards like Curiosity or Malcolm are from damage, meaning they don't work with Duelist at all.

>>95998332
yeah, it's good at drawing cards but not before combat. might try that rat-enchantment thing that lets you draw 1 and lose a life if you control an enchanted creature. i WILL make duelist work

>>95998001
even more pathetic

>>95998167
Tried this and it is certified aids kek

just played a 30 minute bo1 Standard match
monoW lifegain deck started with 2 white Leyline + 3 Authority of the Consuls vs my monoB Sephiroth deck trying to win with 1/1 sac fodder
won with 3 cards left in deck.

>>95998313
Blue overlord should work well. Id also play opt instead of combat research or some of the one ofs.

Oops

>thought brawl would be a fun format to brew in since there is no ranked
>everyone is still playing cedh level decks
What is it about the game being online that makes everyone so unapologetically sweaty?

>>95998985
Its fun to do powerful things

>>95998985
>unapologetically sweaty?
it's fun maximizing your deck as much as you can
also this >>95999008

>>95998985
bceause it takes just a few sweaty players to force everyone else to play sweaty decks. sometimes i like to play good decks and try to win, other times i want to play low-power decks and worry less. sadly when you try the latter you will get matched up with tryhards 3/5 times. when i play a "good" deck or a powerful (or annoying) commander i want to match up with another strong commander, feels bad stomping people or facing nothing but scoopers

>>95999038
i'll also add that if you're gonna play brawl just make a really good deck yourself, you don't have to pick the "best" commanders - those are usually in hell queue anyway. just make your deck as strong as possible.

>>95998985
The real answer is because of the daily design.
You need 15 wins to get the rewards and that's WINS, not matches.
If you lose you literally just wasted your time with no daily progress, which conditions people to avoid losing more heavily than they would otherwise.
Arena should just copy Master Duel's daily system and honestly almost everything else about it too.

>>95997388
No, it's infinite (you technically need to gain life or make them lose life to start it). Basically the same as an old combo, except with creatures instead of two 5 cost enchantments.

>>95998985
You get matched based on the power of the cards in your deck and the commander you're using. If you play a cedh deck you're going to get cedh opponents. When I first started playing brawl I had a shitty commander and I had never built a commander deck before so my deck was gigashit in terms of deck building and 90% of my opponents were also playing shit decks.

went 7-1 with this bad boy. last game was pretty crazy, had me down to my last card in deck.

>>95999220
This. The power of your commander is by far the most heavily weighted aspect of this calculation. If you fill your deck with all the most broken shit imaginable but your commander is a do-nothing or off-meta pick, you will roflstomp everyone because you'll be matched against low-power decks.

1st fucking good match with this guy
always lost the previous tries with either shitty hands or some tempo resurrect deck

god damn the 6-0 queue has turned into a heinous fucking nightmare bracket of people who got passed 10 rares in draft and drew them all on curve against me
can't believe the amount of luck these animals are wasting here

I got passed 15 rares

>>95999399
most are unplayable. I assume you're on either grixis wizards or esper artifacts.

>Cori gets banned from standard
>Pioneer gets filled with izzet decks
*Sigh*

holy shit my sides
>Trying red/black wizards with 5 mana Elspeth for memes
>Get opponent playing Boros discovery combo down to 2 hp
>I tap out
>He comboes off
>Cheats out Etali
>Steals my Circle of Power
>He casts it and dies

>>95999451
>implying it wasn’t already filled with Izzet before

Why are people trying to play real magic in the meme midweek? Just play something stupid like jace or tibalt's that anons posted above and get your 4 daily wins for free.

>>95999607
The real tech is any one drop into crashing footfalls

>keep a decent 3 land hand
>First 3 draws are lands
>Sleight of hand
>2 lands
>Stock up
>5 lands
How anyone take a this game seriously enough to be a "pro" is fuckin beyond me

>>95999735
All paper pros cheat

>>95999735
Dunning kruger poster doesn't realize the real skill in magic is manipulating the top of your library.

>>95999732
some guy did exactly that to me and still lost to my t4 jace

>>95999220
>>95999251
I'm kinda sad that commander strength is so over-proportional compared to certain bomb cards.
I wanted to build a Sphinx reanimator deck with Ravine as commander but there was just no way to get out of hell queue no matter how many mana drain, thought seize or other highly rated cards I cut.
At every point you get paired with Rusko or equal tiered stuff and you make cuts and adjustments until you end up with the same cards again in your deck as always.
>If you fill your deck with all the most broken shit imaginable but your commander is a do-nothing or off-meta pick, you will roflstomp everyone because you'll be matched against low-power decks.
Legit strat.

>>95999558
I wasn't running into any of it.

>>95999451
Bro, UR phoenix has been a premier deck since pioneer debuted. Now they have steel cutter as wincon #2

>>95999607
you might be able to play a pretty fair white deck with a 1 drop commander + mox amber as your only zero, then swords to plowshares as your only 1 cmc card to eat a rhino the next turn.

What's the point of playing Pioneer?
Unless you really want to play Phoenix or Lotus Field combo.

>>95999856
Nice they should have played some buffs too you shouldnt be able to win lol.

>>96000179
Playing any of the Standard decks that were banned two days ago

fuck, all that digging hoping that i get a bounce for his shit nonland permanents but was unlucky, interesting game tho

the only people besides noobs I've seen try to play 'fair' in the brawl event are Ragavan shitters who concede every game where they don't go first and cascade into Mox + Chrome Mox on turn 1

>>96000179
Because I want to play jank cards that are not available in standard.
Because I like to play decks that have rotated out
Like, what the fuck is this question? Are you autistic?

>>96000414
>>96000300
so it's just a casual format for noobs to play their old standard decks?
the format is both dogshit and unpopular and there is good reason WotC realized that their push to make it relevant failed and dropped all support.
playing pioneer is even more embarrassing that playing the Arena-only formats at this point lol

>>96000427
It could have been fine if they didnt add extra random or broken cards to every set these master sets have ruined every format

>>96000427
>so it's just a casual format
Yes and that's why it's good.
Tryharding in gacha is gay, it's the format to play if you want to avoid paypiggies. That's the real reason they don't support it.

>>95996558 (OP)
Playing this game as a new player is fucking miserable.

I'm dead turn 4 every fucking game outside of "starter deck duel".

>>96000669
damn, I can imagine. So much shit you need to collect now. I got onto Arena fairly early I think around War of the Spark. Everything was much lower power then and of course a lot less to collect, less frequent releases. It must be impossible jumping in now.
I paid only once, to get the "new player" starter pack and that kinda set me up for the next few years as did learning to draft properly. I was however extremely unemployed back then. I imagine the only solution you have is to pay up goy

>>96000751
This Liliana -> Ardyn -> Whatever combo is so strong, at least it seems that way to me.

>>96000751
fwiw i don't bother with the new sets, haven't gotten the mastery pass in a while. sitting on 93 rare WCs and 132 mythics. I'd donate some to you if i could. I'm done with this game I think, might just hop on brawl here and there to get the fix.

>>96000765
gotta be honest I don't think i've seen that yet.

>>96000783
Basically you just pull him out of the graveyard and then he pulls another card and gives it haste + menace.
Like the jumbo cactuar that is making the rounds.

>>96000800
checked

Chainer FUCKS

>>95996558 (OP)
is there a standard ninjers deck atm?

>>96001019
There will be if you build one

>>96000669
Thats not because youre new lol thats just the game now

How does yugioh get away with being eternal for decades, even with all it's powercreep, but magic eternal formats are giga cancer? Commander you need to find friends and agree to play decks that are shit because CEDH games are busted even with it's "singleton" format. Pioneer is just the same 2-3 decks dominating it forever and any added standard cards just make those decks better. Legacy/vintage/modern all garbage. Standard isn't played by anyone outside of arena though.

>>96001066
It doesn't get away with it, people just accepted that the game is unplayable dogshit now and play it anyway because of sunk cost.
Fiendslop decks literally combo for 15 minutes on turn 1 and then the opponent either has an out and OTKs or they concede.
That's the entire game now, it's worse than the worst any magic format has ever been.

>play on curve
>removed

>>96001114
They should just have an actual banlist that gets updated multiple times a year like every other card game at this point. Shake up the meta of legacy formats for once. Leave staples in of course, but shit that constantly dominates and keeps getting stronger when new sets release should really be looked at.

>>96001260
>trying to playing cards
rookie mistake

>>96001114
I really don't see the appeal of yu-gi-oh and its main gameplay loop of "finding the deck that most consistently otks on turn 1 while also being the most resilient to disruption" where your reward for completing the challenge is that the cardboard you just spent money on is now banned or a new set is coming out next week that power creeps what you've assembled.

>>96001547
That's basically what Magic is though, except different formats suffer different things.

>>96001576
I only play limited and that's not at all what we're doing

>>96000960
...fucks what?

>>95996558 (OP)
uhmm
is strategic betrayal a good card for dimir control atm?

>>96001586
>i only play "meme format that costs money every time"
Okay? You can draft yugioh too, though not many people do.

FFags, what connection is there between "booyaka" and the game?

>wotc introduces "land deck" a 20 card pile next to your deck full of lands
>standard deck size goes down to 40 cards
>errata all cards that have to do with milling or getting lands from your deck
>starting hand you get to choose how many cards you get from your deck and from your land pile
>every turn you get to choose to draw from your deck or land pile
I fixed magic

>>96001647
https://youtu.be/V5Ya654qQhU?si=m2OpF2opLSjJeKeR&t=686

What drop

I did it guys i made the best kefka deck.

>>96001694
I see

>>96001682
Go play hearthstone, magic's mana system is the best thing about it. Remove lands and every game plays out exactly the same.
>>96001698
I'd cut rapier and snow villiers for sure. You probably want to be playing your monks fists and third gaelicat though.

one for the Duelist chads from earlier in the thread

>>96001682
I was playing something like this ten years ago, no idea if it's a "real" format but it was pretty fun: IIRC, there was a big pile of card, neither complete draft chaff nor overpowered stuff, 5 colors. To play you just took a few tens of these cards as your deck, I don't remember how many you started with, but each turn you could either draw in your deck or choose one basic land.

>>96001645
>implying I don't go infinite on gems

speaking of which

I need one of you guys to help me draft I'm too retarded and new

>>96002050
sure, load up a quick draft and post a screenshot of every pick here so we can collectively debate it.

Oh no my mana rock did 13 damage to you aw geez at least theres only one… oh wait.

>>95986640
>>95986645

>>96001682
Just do what Duel Masters did.
No lands.
All cards can also be played as a land of its color.
Problem now fully solved.

Fun fact: Duel Masters was advertised by WotC as a literal sequel to MTG, and is seen as such in Japan to this day where it's the country's current second best-selling TCG behind Yugioh. The manga even had them playing MTG at first before Duel Masters shows up and is considered just an objective upgrade.

Can someone help me?
What are some of the better Standard cards to reanimate for 3 mana or less?
Preferably in Abzan colors

>>96002926
Duel masters is fucking gay what are you in middle school still what the fuck?

>>96003029
>mlp is canon to magic
>duel masters is gay
Lol, lmao even

>>96003019
Do you mean enters abilities or just good creatures?

>>96003041
Preferably enters but anything is fine

>>96003036
This is gayer. Mlp could be sucking a dick in mtg and still not be as gay

>>96003051
Its name translated is Turbo Benis Dragon Supreme Alpha btw

>>96002926
>No lands.
>All cards can also be played as a land of its color
We already have that

>>96003019
Oculus

Playing against Omniscience fucking sucks

>>96003173
>WotC neuters every deck
>Except omni now requires 5 mana instead of 4 to win the game
5 more years...

>>96003199
Yuna doesnt just win on turn 5 you gotta earn it
Omni just straight up wins on turn 5

>>96003233
They can whiff

what the fuck is wrong with this guy who has intentionally roped every turn and decision to the max timer, starting from the mullgian, in fucking Starter Deck duel format?

>>96003679
lol and of course he'd nutdraw while I flood out
hope that guy burns in some terrible hell for that shit

>>96003679
>>96003717
Might have been me, it's not intentional. I'm always tabbed out when I play, no real reason to lock in when every other person ropes you back.

I'm 95% sure the coin flip is rigged at least to some extent
I'm sitting here doing
>queue for bo1
>find opponent
>opponent goes first
>concede immediately
>repeat
and seeing how many I can rack up
I was at 14 on the draw in a row so far which should be 1 in 16384
on #15 I get to be on the play, against an opponent on a starter deck

I think the only explanation is that there's some kind of match rigging that puts you into a guaranteed or 90%+ chance to lose coin flip if you leave a game at the start, and then that system is being overridden by another one that guarantees you a pity match / bot opponent / total trash queue if you lose too many games in a row. Lots of opaque game developers using that psychological manipulation bullshit in their games now, like Marvel Rivals

>>96004113
How do you explain the person on the other side of the table getting to go first

Unless you're implying you're their pity match

>>96004113
Yea I seem to have a massive chain of only going second at least once every few weeks. After going second 4 times in a row I just start conceding until I go first and consistently go through 8+ games until I finally go first

>>96004175
They are in a neutral state I'm in a punishment match
If they had been matched up against another person in neutral it would be a 50:50 coin flip
But they got matched against someone in punishment mode and get a 95:5 coinflip or whatever

How does anyone use the phone app to play this shit?
>cards with long text boxes are impossible to read
>laggy as hell even though my phone is last year's model
>constantly disconnect due to spotty 5g
It's just bad. I thought id pass time at work tonight and now i dont even feel like playing. How does Balatro run so smoothly compared to this?

>>96004282
Balatro runs well because it's a small indie game made by a small group who actually cares about it, Arena runs like shit because it's a massive committee lead project where none of the programmers know or care what each other or themselves are doing. Very common with modern software.

lol you animals are such shitter coinflippers
>waaah my opponent is going first how could this happen to me
>concedes

>>96004282
I know what most cards do so I don't have to read them

>>96004282
Not really a fair comparison, balatro has way fewer cards, less assets, and simpler mechanics.

>>96004295
Going first is the strongest thing you can do in this game and after several games of getting fucked its only fair

>>96004295
this is not okay

>>95997674
I CAN ALMOST HEAR THE HOUNDS

>>95997287
The main issue with Fynn is that if you don't draw him or if he gets removed, you just have a shitty deck

>>96004113
It's always funny when I start a draft I go first and then after going 7-2 I realize I was on the draw for all 7 other games because I won going first on my first game. I guess bo3 is the only solution, but fuck taking 45 minutes just for a single win.

>>96004332
>>96004390
play a better format lol you shitters

>>96004448
play vs draw in draft is like 52-53% vs 47-48%

>>96004458
>Play bo3
>Opponent still gets to go first twice
>Lose

>>96004458
let's see, which format do you consider good?

>>96004482
draft

>>96004511
...

>>96002534
hopeless nightmare was a common, a whole ass newsletter for 4 common wildcards.

>>96001066
Sounds like you just plain don't like Magic.

>>96001547
Play kitchen table yugioh, or try an older format like Edison or Tengu.
Yugioh's core mechanics - as in, the words in the rulebook - are incredibly fun, fluid, and interactive. It's just all helmed by an incompetent retard company.

>>96001907
>54.940 gems
how much is that in money?

>>96004480
your deck must be garbage if you lose just because of not being 1st, sorry sister

>>96004854
'bout three niggy

>>96004408
Thats what this is for, extra "variety"

>>96004854
More than I'd ever spend on this game

>>96005080
could have farmed $8000 worth of FF collector boxes with that if I stayed in that weekend
I'm still pissed

>>96005104
regular booster box event soon, if you're so confident then there's still money to be made.

Its a scam they wont actually send you a box you will get a small giftcard or nothing. And if youre in another country you get rekt by import taxes.

>remove tap lands from starter decks and replace them with all basics
>suddenly they are infinitely better
Fuck tap lands seriously, why do these kikes want f2p players to suffer?

>>96005393
They caught on to people grinding starter deck duel and adjusted the decks. 9 fucking taplands in every deck. Half the decks are total garbage too.

Can't earn tokens
Can't qualify
Can't compete
Can't play competitive formats
Entire life consists of shilling here

Pathetic

Oh and

Can't earn a box of ff slop

>>96005451
Not xir but you still get tokens from limited rank urzatroon and bo3 draft is the best way to farm them.
>>96005269
Regular event is way worse, think the collector's event was worth it even with sub 50% winrates.

>>96005533
worse sure but how much worse do you figure?

im also playing mono U commanders but not ones where you solely rely on counterspells, why the fuck have i even spent my time in this match, didn't want to give this faggot his easy win

>>96005886
Also, i gamble to get Cavern of Souls and ofc this retard get's his demolition field the next round just to destroy it, surely this wasn't an intentional draw

>>96005805
By a lot, like I said the collector's event was worth it even with a negative winrate, that's how insane it was. You could trophy less than 1/12 times and more than double your money(completely ignoring gem prizes). And because it was such insane value I imagine the competition was likely a lot softer than is typical of these and the casuals are going to be much less interested in the upcoming one.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people get hosed though and receive the MSRP dollar amount instead of a collector's box. In which case the events are pretty similar.

He didnt make day 2

>>96005908
seems like the upcoming event is slightly better if they're going to just pay out the cash prize either way. Old event was gems 3-6 and $450 for first, new event is same gems for 3-5 and $210 for 6, $420 for 7.

>>95996558 (OP)
is restless reef worth crafting atm or is it being phased out soon?

>>96006756
smoking that reefer ayyyy

Today's garbage

>>96006756
That's a pretty full art. I wish I could convince my younger cousins to play Magic off of this, they love sharks because of some black person on Tiktok.

>>96005269
twice as easy to win
but worth 1/10 the amount lol

>>96006756
if you play Standard then don't craft anything from the sets that are rotating out in a month

>>96006858
oh shit, this soon? What sets are rotating out?
I was very surprised that some of my favorite cards like Breach the Multiverse and Jin Gitaxias were still alive in standard. Don't tell me these are dying soon as well...

>>96006898
It won't rotate out until February 2027.
The sets that are about to go are Dominaria United, The Brothers' War, Phyrexia: All Will Be One, March of the Machine, and March of the Machine: The Aftermath.

>>96006898
>Don't tell me these are dying soon as well...
Incidentally
>Breach the Multiverse
March of the Machine
>Jin Gitaxias
March of the Machine

>>96006998
wait, what will rotate in 2027? I'm confused now

>>96007020
The Lost Caverns of Ixalan, and like 6 other sets. Restless Reef will remain playable until the rotation after next (589 days out).
But the next rotation (29 days out) will take away Breach the Multiverse and Jin Gitaxias.

Is azorius artifacts any good right now? I feel like I used to see it a lot but hardly ever see it now. I feel like the next set will bring even more artifact synergies too

>>95998985
thats just the nature of 1v1 especially if you rip out any of the social aspect of the game
>>95999220
to be fair this is only partially true because card weight is fucked and you can manipulate it to pub stomp pretty consistently

Did I really just get a message in my inbox because of 4 common wildcards?

>>96007156
yes

>>96003019
I used to see people playing Severance Priest and the mini rhino, it used to look like trashy hipster pixie but I don't know shit sucks.

tapped out and no way counter (besides pact of negation)? well fuck you then

I heard slivers are coming back. I was always a HUGE sliver enjoyer as I started in the early 2000s with a sliver deck. They ever been considered good historically? Or are they a meme tribe.

>long on for some 'agic
>gifted 4 common WCs
today was a good day

bullying Alchemy players with the Tifa landfall deck

>>96007119
is Simulacrum Synthesizer rotating?
I want an excuse to waste 4 mythic wildcards on those, that card is busted.
there is already a UW artifact deck in the first post-ban league 5-0 dump

>>96007434
I don't think so, it's from thunder junction

>>95996558 (OP)
what are the recommended dual lands to craft that will live enough to be worth their investment?

Standard rotation since im seeing posts about it here alot.

>>96007471
the Verges will be around for a long time and are pretty great.
plus we're getting shocklands next set and they pair well together.
the fastlands are also good but half of them are rotating I think?

>>96007471
Shocklands (https://mtg.wiki/page/Shock_land) are reprinted in the next set, so probably wait for them. They're less useful without fetchlands but still pretty good.

>>96007315
>paypig

>>96007477
your
>rotates in 2026
list is misinformation, there is no rotation in 2026.

Nothing more satisfying than winning the match after the retarded dino-timmy smugly gg-ed me when he vomited his hand with Ghalta. Next time maybe he will add some removal in his deck...

Dudes want me to try out mtga with them and I never played card games in my life. Sell me some essential knowledge and tips, because I only have you

don't take leyline of the void from my beautiful decks bwos... the insta concedes feel too good...

>>96007703
Just mess around in the starter deck queue, you'll learn the game yourself pretty quick. Be wary of spending gold/gems on stuff, it's tempting to blow it all on some shiny new deck but if you're brand new to card games you'll be a shitter and getting more stuff will be slow.

>>96007703
See >>95989779

out of the loop since the banlist. What should I play now? Is monoB good yet with cecil, dark confi and annex?

What's the correct graveyard hate piece I should run in my dimir control deck? Leyline? Lantern?

>>96007843
lantern maindeck

>>96007826
>giving draft advice to a new player
lmao
my advice is stay away from draft until you've got a good grasp of basic game mechanics and interactions.

gotta build the top tier standard deck for the qualifier next month so going infinite in the constructed challenge to get wildies~

>>96007850
How many in bo1? Is 3 enough?

what was the name of the land that destroys not normal lands?

>>96007884
demolition field

>>96007830
I haven't played them but Annex decks look fine, cecil feels fillerish but maybe it's for the decks I'm not playing and confidant I haven't really seen. Mostly I've been playing monowhite tokens and drowning in cards.

>>96007826
>>96007805
>>96007876
Are there any must-have cards? As I understand, Yugioh basically requires you to 'craft' certain cards for you to stay in the game. Is that a thing in mtg

A friendly pointer
if the opponent is at 20 life, you can deal 20 if you have 7 artifacts on the board and copy a Haunt the Network
they lose 20 life you gain 20 life

>>96008064
The meta is slightly in flux now. Im also fairly new started mid tarkir. I found jump in fun and gives a bunch of cards. Try that for a bit. Starter duels are fun to. Due to the 5 colors there are barely any cards, if any, that are in every deck. Wildcards are the bottleneck. Even now I basically have only crafted like 2 decks, though I am f2p for the most poart. Drafts are VERY fun but people here will make it sound like its a joke and just free currency. Aint for me probabbly aint for you. Still fun and you get alot of cards. Duel lands are what your talking about. I didnt do that with my wildcards. I used them on fun cards that were needed for my deck and lived with shitty tap lands and normal lands. Is my deck weaker? Yes. Do I actually have 2 fun decks I play? Also yes.

>>96008064
Not really. Magic has a color system, so you can't just jam whatever you want into any deck. The closest you get to must haves are good dual lands, but even then there's no point if you're not in those colors. There's obviously strong cards that will get used a lot in certain colors and archetypes, but there's rarely ever a card that shows up in everything. Plus we just had a huge ban wave a couple days ago, so things have yet to settle down.

>>96006787
There's also stained glass DMU lands, it seems like you already paypigged for those

I was waiting for boomer border lands but I'm tempted by those stained glass fuckers. Wish I could see them in-game since some lands look like trash in postage stamp form

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/etali-breach/?cb=1751574543

New deck. Mono-b has been very disappointing recently, so I thought about trying an old deck I remember getting to top 100 before the meta caught up, Etali Reanimator, since this new card came out that looks funny. Had to shell out some wildcards, but eh. Beginning from plat, but I'll tell you how I do later on.

what color combination is a dead giveaway I'm fighting a femboy? Need to up my chasing skills bwos

what color combination is a dead giveaway I'm fighting a pajeet?

Is breaching dragonstorm OTK combo worth building? I feel like I always get btfo by it whenever I paly against it. Not sur if it's worth or if there will be a good replacement for Etali since thats rotating but the core seems to be staying

>>96008382
nvm scrollshift is rotating too

>>96008354
4 color non-white

>>96008354
Mono white.

>>96008293
green-white is the official tranny combo

i have farmed 10 play-in tokens today

in the last 2 weeks i cracked the code and i will not tell you how

The concession seems premature.

>Oh that's your commander? Looks like a Legitimate Businessperson to me bro

>try to play something fun
>queue full of tedious shits
Fuck it then I'll grind out my wins efficiently like everyone else.

>>96008701
Based. It can also be a toy. Or a frog or an elk. Or mine lol.

>>96008695
The buck was done and it was creampie time

I went infinite with your mom lmao

>opponent plays haywire mite into insidious roots
Hey guess what?

>>96007877
>he needs the top tier deck to beat arena players
kwab

I almost feel bad but then i remember and i dont. Thunderdome bitch!

>>96007178
Ended up 4-3 for my dailies. Could probably be a lot better, maybe add in Zoraline and a better removal package.

Recurring both bats and Priest is actually pretty fun. Meanwhile Skirmish Rhino kind of blows, who cares about pinging two. Maybe if it were 4/3 instead.

Someone give me a fun brawl/historic brawl list that uses a "considered by arena" crap commander.

>>96009937
Billu the ponyu

>>96009842
anon check out UW Oculus to see what 3cmc reanimation looks like
I thought you'd be playing the white Unearth cards

>>96010400
Severance Priest and Rhino are BWG, I don't think I can fit in blue
Helping Hand would have been good yeah

>>96010432
Roots is another shell you could take ideas from.
I love the black Overlord, he might fit in your deck. He and Helping Hand are much higher power level cards than things like Squall.

Do i make standard or pioneer to start gaining rank?

>my deck is going to rotate out because tyvar is irreplaceable
it hurts bros

>>96010646
Doesn't really matter. Standard just had a big shakeup with the bans, so if you think you have the new secret sauce that beats everything else you could benefit right now.

jeskai control feeling really good right now

>>96010646
if all you care about is gaining rank then play Historic lol
you can grind to top 10 and still be getting paired vs people playing starter deck tier crap it's so dead, that's how all the shitters farm rank spots.
Standard is the worst for gaining rank.
Pioneer could work but you'd probably have to be abusing one of the outlier decks like Phoenix.

>>96010773
alchemy is stupid and i refuse to play it

>>96010655
the sauce i was planning to brew really only hated the top tier decks, now that i have no idea about the meta im at a loss

still seething at the fact i was #1 and you will never ever, i see

>>96010880
Meta seems to be U/W control and gruul aggro with some black midrange.

come at me sister ain't got anothing to hide unlike you

if you get a mono white seat this set it's a guaranteed 7 wins
got to do it three times. fun format.

>>96008187
>paypigged for those
you know you could have bought them for gold when they came out you spastic?

>>96011377
does the golgari roots deck from the pro tour do well against either? it had a good winrate there and I have almost all the cards for it

Magic would be so much better if they just got rid of blue.
>oh boy i cant wait to play off curve and behind all game because my opponent is holding up interaction for every one of my cards every single turn and then i lose anyways as they top deck every answer and draw their whole deck while im slowly whittled down to nothing
and doubly worse if you go second. Orzhov is bad about this too, but at least orzhov isnt counterspelling you and you can protect your creatures from their removal

>>96011486
if you play bo1 then it's gonna be great because it's a top deck that's also a graveyard deck (bo1 favors aggro and graveyard synergies)

>>96011494
Blue was unplayable in Standard about a year ago. The end result was Sunfall Turbo dominated the meta.

>>96011494
blue punishes bad players more than any other colour (both playing with and against). it's necessary for teaching people to get good.
very cringeworthy when people don't grow out of their blue control phase though.

>>96011518
lol standard has 2 different Sunfalls + Wrath of God
Boardwipe tribal is pretty unbeatable for most decks in bo1 but you're going to get bored playing such long games.

>>96011528
>lol standard has 2 different Sunfalls + Wrath of God
There's been 1-2 new white boardwipes released in every single set for the past half decade. Standard currently has well over a dozen board wipes to pick from.

ඞ

>>96011582
>more funkopop-tier references

>>96011582
Hmm

>>96011582
WINK WINK FELLOW KID
THIS CARD IS KINDA SUS

>>96011742
BUT UNIRONICALLYYYYYYYYYYY

Hopefully this will lead to an entire set based around amogus

ye it's gonna be a smooth ride

>>96011582
haha AMOGUUUS xD

>>96011873
SEASONED GAY

goodbye rabbits

>>96011952

>>96011990
Am I crazy or is this shit

I love Final Fantasy.
I've had such a fun month. I played SO MUCH Sealed. I'm sad I must now bid farewell to Sealed FF.
This set was a dream come true for me.
I'm not going to enjoy any other UB as much as this one, because this one was made for me.

>>96012050
just coonsoom

>mh3 20%

I fucking love control mirror matchups, and I've been getting so so many of them after the bans. Standard is healing. Draw for turn, play a land, pass to you motherfucker.

>>96012054
I will gladly partake of my favorite franchise wherever it may be found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmYfkfm7GpA

By the way, where can I check which lands are rotating out? So I don't waste my rares.

>>96012086
this is what it'll look like when eoe drops next week

i'm willing to give any standard sister the opportunity to practice with me for the qualifier (my historic bros ain't touching this format) so long as the top mythic 500 rank is proven

Its only turn 6

writing a post and keeping the tab open looking at the screen for hours just waiting for me to post so it can reply right after

my goodness

>>96012400
>Second chapter is win the game
>Third chapter is draw 2 cards
Funny card

then doing it twice

>>96012414
it's Odin going "ok you fucked up somehow, whatever here's some cards"

poorfags seething over paypigchads

>Unpack 2 ultima, jill and summon: leviathan in sealed
>oh nice some really solid cards for Blue/white control
>I bet none of the other blue/white cards are worth playing
>confirm
>7-0 with jund

>>96012050
I've only ever played one of these FF games (and didn't even finish it) but helps that the set was also just a great Limited environment

maybe i'll get 10 more tokens today if it feel like it, kinda bored

Nadu? I think nah dude. Gg ez.

all xyr can do is play brawl all day

I missed the signal for blue in pack 1, and pivoted mid pack 2, is there any way I can unscuff this draft pool? I got passed Sephiroth in a pack where the choice was between it and Sage's Noulith's, and I was already full of 2 drops.

>>96012481
decided to get another cheeky sealed run in last minute

>>96012481
>>96013180
fuck you, im also buying a sealed entry now, but i bet ill be 0/3

>>96013267
fuck i missed it, no more sealed

today's garbage

>>96013294
More like gar-BITCH, amirite?

>>96013139
Whatever makes you feel better dogfucker

>>96013139
don't shit on my format

>>96013167
if you play blitzball + brainstorm + 18 lands you should have enough fixing for three colours
Circle of Power is the only black card you actually want to splash for though, you're somehow short on playables despite picking three colours.
there might also be a 5 colour Atraxa deck in there somewhere that's base UG

>>96013180
Sealed EV is so bad that I never play it despite it being helpful practice for opens.
is it really that easy to 7-x? I guess it's unranked

>>96013294
Ill timed explosion is good

>>96013167
ah yeah you could totally do UG 5colour atraxa with Circle of Power/Exdeath as black cards, Fate of the Sun-Cryst as your white card, and Shantoto/Tellah as your only red cards.
4 towns + blitzball + double prishe's wandering would give you a decent amount of fixing

>>96013474
I mean you can look at the deck, it wasn't very good. Game I lost at 0-0 was because my opponent had a 20/20 aerith I could never answer because theres only 1 removal spell in the deck.

Aw dang it all my brawl opponents ramp to 7 turn three now

>on the draw
>holding a land to drop it as soon as my turn starts
>turn starts
>somehow a different land gets dropped
>lose because of this
What the nigger fuck arena?

>>96013839
I was there, I saw everything, you got fucked.

>>96013839
>be you
>be retarded
>think everything except yourself is retarded
In a way it must be nice.

>>96013839
HAHA

>>96012100
looks like I'm gonna be playing a lot of boros, simic and orzhov

>>96013294
>buying cosmetics
lol. they should at least come with a playset or remainders of the cards.

does realm's sketching creature legendary tokens? i've been too afraid to try it in draft thinking I'd just kill my own shit

>>96014046
create*

>>96014046
Yeah, you'd need to sac one. Spells will specify if it makes copies with differences.

>log onto account that has never played Constructed or crafted a deck
>build Tifa landfall deck (4x Tifa 2x Mossborn Hydra, plus uncommons and commons)
>queue Alchemy ranked with literally 0 matchmaking rating
>literally 9/10 are mirror matches vs Tifa landfall
holy shit I've discovered a hell queue where the game will only feed you mirror matches, regardless of your rating
this is definitely abusable

where the fuck is everyone im waiting like 50 s for 1 brawl mathc

>Limited formats I liked
M21
Zendikar rising
Final Fantasy

>sets I thought were shit
Kaldheim
Kamigawa ND
Aertherdrift
Bloomburrow

What does this say about me

which sleeve did you get with your two free orbs?
I want the fran one for the tits but there is some dude on it

>>96014227
You like formats with relatively simple and focused mechanics, probably with more traditional D&D type fantasy themes.

>>96014227
Bloomburrow was the only truly shit one out of those.
Bloomburrow and Tarkir were some of the worst draft formats in years

>>96014254
I didn't play tarkir but I guess I'm glad I didn't

>>96004282
My phone came out 15 months ago and I don't have any problems

>>96014249
I got the pass so all of them

Protip: maze's end literally cannot lose in the current meta so you just queue up and accept free wins

>>96014685
>gaytes
No thanks, I'm not a virgin.

Love getting passed on color rares mid way through pack 2

>>96014786
what's the magic deck of choice for sex-havers? i mean i know already what is as i have sex but i'm just testing you

>>96014960
Ill show you mine if you show me yours.

I always thought secret lairs were just "special art for cards" like guest appearances, but I just learned they aren't. What formats are these dumbass things even playable in?

>>96015245
Uhhh i dunno ask your mom

>>96014960
Monogreen

>>96015245
Legacy, vintage, commander. Nothing relevant to Arena.

>>96015245
They aren't? I thought they were still legal in whatever formats the card itself was legal. Are all secret lairs spiritually gold border?

>>96015831
I think he means the cards printed specifically for Secret Lair, which can only be played in legacy, vintage, and commander, and thus essentially are made for commander.

>>96015928
Oh, I gotcha

I don't find green white to be good most of the time, but white was super open in this draft and I got esper origins P1P1 and P1P2. Even though this was the probably the best possible deck for actually casting the Crystal's Chosen, I was never able to cast it, I either won too fast, or on the game I lost I never got past 4 lands. I still think it was correct to include them, but it possibly should have been the T-rex + rescue mission, or even rescue mission + the 2nd snow to maximize the beatdown plan.

>>96016116
there ain't no way you put 2nd crystal's chosen in over trex

Three 0-3 in a row andd suddenly I am out gems to play limited. What an absolute shitshow of bad luck. I went second 7 out of 9 times, in that last draft I never got past my third land, one would think going second with 3 lands would be a keep.

I had a game where I killed a Vincent thrice (no recursion, 3 different copies), then I had a game where I was facing Kefka turn 4. I managed to stabilize and then on an empty hand he draws his 8th land, I block and I have bow and like 13 lands in play (15 cards remaining in my deck) so I can block forever. So he obviously top decks dark rage rod and I get infinite valued to death.

I didnt play magic in not a single game. I play diamond weapon? Top decks suplex, kill the second vicent? he plays another one and then a removal with 0 cards in hand. Such unfairness.

>>96016116
Even with that curve I'd run gardener over snow.

>>96016541
go first/go second barely matters in Limited. the fact that you complain about it immediately marks you as someone who has no fucking clue what they're doing.
if you want help then post your decks here so people can tell you what you are doing wrong.
last time I had an 0-3 was around 150 drafts ago.

>>96016146
This is almost certainly correct. Don't know what I was thinking.

>>96016734
This is more iffy. Snow was great. This is the only time I've ever not played goob I think, but if I played the t rex it would be better.

>>96016785
I am on fucking mythic you retard. Also this format is so swingy being on the draw because then you eat shit with syncopate and you never recover.

>>96016812
I just checked 17lands, this format is really big on being first. Fucking magic is about going first, curve out and then play a removal t4 and win.

>>96016812
Post deck

>>96016838
What deck? I dont have any gems. Here my collector box I won because I was bored.

Do you also wanna see my 1k rares and mythics wildcards?

>>96016867
>Do you also wanna see my 1k rares and mythics wildcards?
nta but yes

>>96016867
>What deck?
Any of your many 0-3s

>>96016541
>esl
>dogshit at mtg
kwab

>>96016876
I dont take pictures of any of them.

>MFW playing a jump in deck with a 90% winrate all month

>>96016887
Remember to do that next time you want to seethe.

why does every deck i face in brawl have mana drain on turn 2

>>96017016
Because you're playing the mana drain on turn 2 format

>>96016867
my collector box brother. just got my ewallet filled out, although I haven't uploaded them a photo of my driver's license. is that shit really necessary?
I should be farming the normal boxes but the EV is worse and I have to go traveling again this weekend (fuck I wish I stayed in to farm 10 collector's boxes).

>>96017019
this format kinda sucks

>>96016871
>still hasn't posted
Got em

went to go play some casual shitbrew games in Alchemy and it's literally nothing but mono red Mouse players
guess the aggro animals found a safe place to get their dailies in

>>96017062
idk I am not american. Yeah the normal boxes arent worth farming, they will be printed to hell and its too many gems for just two boxes.

Dont get me wrong, I like this format a lot, not bomby but sometimes you just end up with a mess of a draft while the person in front of you is getting away with some insane shit because non pod drafting is awful.

Is this what perfection looks like? Would you change anything about this deck? BO1 btw

>>96017334
I'd probably run Annex and Sanctuary instead of Demo Field. 4x Duress. Cut 1-2 Lanterns and Pull.

>>96017334
Standard needs to rotate more often. How is Theoldred still here? Shit needs to rotate out every 3-4 sets or some shit. Maybe we'll finally get some fucking variety and colors will have to play with new strategies.

>>96017334
4x Deadly Cover-Up taking all their relevant cards is my favourite wincon
see what matchups you're running into and adjust accordingly

there were 15/17 lands in the top 20 cards of my library lol
thank you wotc

>>96017574
np sis

why need your commander when you can swing for lethal with your 25/25 mana dork

>>96017588
it's ok, I hit my 1 outter of turn 7 untapping with only lands in play + in hand
topdecking resentful revelation
and flipping both Ardyn + reanimate

>>96017607
drafted the most beautiful deck and it only went 5-3 to some horrific luck.
jesus.

the best part about being a top player is that you can just forfeit and move on if you don't wanna play the opponent (cause he's a massive homo) or you got shuffler'd, you're gonna win the next dozen games anyways so who cares

>>96017737
forfeiting a draft is dumb always play it out and pray your opponent makes a horrible misplay

sorry i don't play the trans format unless i am really really bored

>shitter doesn't play actually skill based formats
kekw
also if you're so good, post your pro-tour tops

He doesnt top anything xir gets topped by dogs

I hope little bro was okay after I tapped down every creature he attempted to equip buster sword to

>>96017854
shitter cope

>>96017854
>I don't dress up like a woman and get fucked in the ass unless I'm bored
You are trans

>>96017737
>forfeits to tank his mmr
lol

Alchemy should be a casual shitqueue in theory but the matchmaking algorithm makes it into the most horrific nightmare imaginable.
It tries to give you mirror matchups or counter matchups every time; mostly mirror matches.
It's the same shit from Standard unranked queue that quarantined all the mono red players against each other except it does it for archetypes in ranked here for whatever reason.

>>96018388
yeah the teenage favela monkey does the most shameful shit because he thinks his arena rank actually matters for some reason.
>tank mmr
>grinds bo3 historic all day against new players on their starter decks
>my opponent is on a real deck? waaah I forfeit and come cry about it here then go back to getting paired vs 10 starter decks in a row

I am having fun bouncing Jill at my opponent

>>96018412
oops i did it again

>>96018523
jajaja show those gringos who tha real boss is

>ban abu
>one day later kona vehicles is used instead

Gaaaay

>try to ladder in bronze after not playing in several years
>every opponent is on a tournament netdeck
>even if Im playing garbage
??

One of the sillier black green decks I've drafted. Was absurdly open. I would have liked a final days or evil reawakened, but otherwise was the single most consistent deck I've played. Possibly should have played the third cloud of darkness, even if it's legendary removal is removal.

>>96018772
Probably has something to do with ranks hardly mattering and the matchmaker looking at your mmr. I watched a new friend go through the ranks recently and there were a ton of random budget decks all the way up to mythic.

>>96018772
because unlike what shitters here believe, the system just uses mmr

>>96018814
Definitely should've ran the third cloud. It's still a a 3/3 flier on board, people generally can't ignore those. So it'll usually get removed or trade with another flier. The stuff that can wall it is generally pretty bad. Worst case, you can just block some attacker with it if you have another copy in hand.

i know everything about the system yet i have never ever been top mythic but it's really easy trust me sisters

>>96018816
>>96018857
I shouldn't have mmr after 3 years

>>96018888
you also shouldn't listen to schizophrenic shills

you are being matched that way cause you're fodder to the whales who spent money but are too shit to rank up, since you didn't play in an years

>>96018888
You clearly don't understand what mmr is. Anyone who plays multiplayer will have a mmr. Your visible rank will decay, but mmr doesn't change unless you actually lose games. Some systems will allow for more flexibility in mmr gains/losses after a period of inactivity, but you still need to play games to make that happen.

>>96018918
literally every comp game has mmr decay between seasons

>>96018935
That's decay for ranks like bronze/silver/gold, not actual mmr.

>>96018938
untrue.

>>96018969
Feel free to show me any examples.

>>96018975

>>96018981
>AI overview
lmao
If you actually played those games or looked into those systems, you'd see the decay there is a decrease in "confidence", which is the increased flexibility I mentioned above.

>>96019001
it's okay to admit you don't know everything

>>96018888
Yeah it's silly there isn't an mmr wipe with every rotation or something.

>>96019013
Ok, I'll do the work for your lazy ass.
>LoL
https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/4405781372051-MMR-Rank-and-LP
Here Riot clarifies MMR and LP are separate. LP decays, MMR does not. When they mention decay in https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/4405783687443-Placements-Promotions-Series-Demotions-and-Decay they specify LP decay.
>Dota 2
Apparently they started using a new system a few years ago, see pic related. https://esportsinsider.com/dota-2-ranks
Their "decay" is just an adjustment of confidence, you still need to actually play games to calibrate.
>Overwatch 2
Once again, they have a separate MMR (hidden) and rank(visible). See https://gametree.me/blog/overwatch-2-matchmaking/ and https://gametree.me/blog/overwatch-2-ranks/
They supposedly use a system where there's a different set for each different role, but the premise is the same. Rank can decay over time, MMR does not.

So no, not a single one of those forcibly change your mmr over time. Most games will use a two part system, MMR in the background for actual matchmaking, and some sort of public facing rank so that people can show off their shiny icons instead of looking at a number. Sometimes devs will refer to the latter as MMR, because a large portion of their audience is retarded and doesn't understand the difference. Once you actually dig into how things work though, you see they never use the public rank for matchmaking, unlike MMR which literally stands for MatchMaking Rating. You can look at chess for an example of a game where they don't have a separate "rank" system, they use Elo rating directly.

>>96019001
Unless it's changed within the past couple of years, league of legends had a "soft reset" for ranked mmr every year/season. It didn't set it to average, but it moved closer to average. This is dumb and I think that people generally wish they wouldn't, but they do it anyways.

MMR should decay for extended (year+) inactivity in every game though. I'm pretty sure my unranked MMR in Dota 2 was pretty high, and I haven't played in like 10 years, so going back would be miserable. I would deserve the misery for going back though.

>>96019078
>read through both overwatch links
>nowhere does it say that mmr doesnt' decay
>article not written by someone who works at blizzard
okay you can actually fuck off

>>96019127
Sure, keep coping about it if you'd like. Go ahead and show anything written by wotc about how they don't use mmr, if you want.

>>96019105
I wasn't playing back then and don't remember that, if you're able to show evidence then sure, I'm happy to retract my statement. As you've said though, I'd imagine people would generally not be fans of games doing that because it's a bad idea, a good mmr system will be very careful about changing stuff unrelated to playing games.

>>96019177
>Go ahead and show anything written by wotc about how they don't use mmr
I never claimed MTGA didn't have MMR. I think they should have MMR decay since its industry standard.

>>96019177
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/dev-ranked-update-season-one-2025/
Under the "alt accounts". Explicitly states MMR.

>>96016541
>>96016812
Bo1 draft is horrible EV, especially once you hit diamond and stop playing against as many total retards. You should play bo3 if you want gems, you need a lower winrate and maybe 1/3+ players are just total free wins. You don't ever even lose matches to the free win players because bo3.

>>96019203
Ok, I guess I misunderstood what you meant by >>96018888, assuming that was you. As for industry standard, Overwatch is apparently harder to find direct Blizzard sources for, the only thing I can find straight from them is https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23910161/ where they state they're removing ranked decay.

>>96019347
Seems to contradict what they say here, where they specify it's LP decay https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/4405783687443-Placements-Promotions-Series-Demotions-and-Decay
Also contradicts the rest of the article itself under the "return to ranked" section, where they talk about changes to decay rate and ranks like plat and silver. Could be a case of devs conflating the two terms.

imagine being these bots or setting them up

Youre all gay *beep boop* *whirrrrrrr*

>>96019498
Why do you hate on bots and rigging when that's what got you your rank?

So what the fuck's the deal with Simon Nielsen's Golgari Roots deck? It was shilled to me as a nasty standard cheese deck but I get my shit fucked hard about 9 times out of 10.
What is it in your opinion? Be honest with me, I need a hard truth to bitchslap me.

>>96019412
They have since reneged on that. That's season 4, they've fucked with shit a lot in the past 10 years. Rank decay (applies only to super high ranks), seasonal rank reset and the seasonal MMR soft reset are separate things, the people doing the riot blogs are usually pretty autistic about this since they know tin foil hat people are going latch on to specific wording. But they deserve the crazies for not just having visible MMR like they used to.

I don't know why you care so much though.

>>96019878
You probably arent piloting it correctly and golgari roots was also strong against the meta before the bans and was built around fighting those specific decks. Meta has shifted now, it isnt as good.

>Only loss was to a much better blue/green deck than I had
I didn't expect this one to go the distance

>>96019894
Thank you. I spent money on that deck. I swear on the Quran I had literally 20 victories in a row before the ban. Literally overnight I went from absolute cancer to a prison bitch, and my ass is sore right now.
Shit, I need to get into the new meta. I'm holding back tears not gonna lie.

You guys are arguing with a dirty thurdie that literally confessed to wanting to get fucked in the ass by a dog.

>>96019353
Yeah I should consider bo3. I just like ranked. Ranked should be bo3 always.

>>96019997
No one is talking to your crush besides you, don't worry.

>>96020334
Oh ok i guess im hallucinating.

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