Thread 95999059

Work in Progress, "I'm not Jewish, I'm a Roman!" Edition

>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD

>WIP Tutorial Images Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw

>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno

>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

>Paint thinning 102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI

>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM

>Decal Like a Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c

>How to Edge Highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk

>How to use contrast style paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI

>How to Paint with Tremors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g

>Airbrush Priming and Thinning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8

>I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGu-55sKJs

>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special way
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny

Previous threads:
>>95975396
>>95949628
>>95921769

Hobby tax is very much real, and Temu is quickly becoming my favourite hobby supply store.

3€ with free shipping on the left, 6€ + shipping on the right

Are those Victrix minis in OP?

Anyway, I started another guys today and since it's still very rough start - do you think that pants should rather be green, similar or darker shade to jacket, instead of khaki?

Work continues on the myrmidons. I think I've got most of the basic colours now. Next step is covering up all the mistakes etc. Before the final highlights and washes.

>>95999080
So nest the pin in the gap?
Smart. Thanks

>>95999093
>buying straight from the source while skipping some taxes and ten middlemen that all need to earn their share before the product gets to you is cheaper
You have really cheated the system anon, I am impressed

>>95999059 (OP)
Sauce on those minis and paints used for the job? I love the silver in particular.

>>95999093
I bought the pro acryl droppers caps off a Chinese seller on Amazon. Much better than whatever kind of twist dropper proacryl is using as their main twist droppers.

Admittedly I do feel like buying Chinese is a bit of a risk because it is either trash or punches above its price point like one wouldn’t believe.

I bought a load of bases off of wargamebaseworld.

>>95999226
>wargamebaseworld.

i have tons of them as well. With bases, its not a big risk, and their price is very competitive.

I've not tried their tufts yet, but the algorythm showed them to me, so i just tried a few different types. I was just very much amused by their direct copy of the army painter design, while making the blister bigger.

They look fine to use at the first glance, and i'm certain the AP winter version looks pretty much identical, but those green ones are all i have at hand right now.

>>95999226
I can't find my calipers, do you know which size is right? I'm tempted to buy some transparent twisty ones like another anon suggested because then I can actually see the paint in the way I store them without having to take them out and check individually.

>>95999343
Check >>95975476
I bought the same size off Amazon when I searched just to check and got some they’re a little tight but I think that is fine.

are proacryl’s mixing balls as weighty as a stainless steel ball bearing or are their paints just not as thick as the usual paints are that makes it seem like their green glass beads are weightiest?

>>95999391
why are you so focused on weighty balls

>>95999403
Just wanted to chime in since there is discussion about pa’s stuff.
What is there a balls schizo?

>>95999391
they say you have to buy these expensive steel ballbearings but ive been using cheap lead fishing weights for years with no problem

>>95999432
>ive been using cheap lead fishing weights for years with no problem
I tried using things like BBs, which was a terrible mistake.

The best results have been with chunks of pewter or lead that I have had left over from casting as they are inert - or very close to it - and don't oxidize when mixed with the paint.

Second place goes to heavy glass beads.

>>95999496
> heavy glass beads.
Any specific links? I have a number of ak paints that have separated badly.

Just cut up some sprue lmoa

>>95999496
>>95999520
one fairly inert thing that comes to mind and should be readily available on every big store are these weights you use to tie fishing flies with
like lead weights they cost next to nothing and are coated and laquered

>>95999520
Here are some cheap 10mm glass beads at Michaels. There's a 25% off coupon right now.

Holy fuck, tau pathfinders finally broke me. I have spent the past few days liquidating all my hobbying materials and models. I have been doing this hobby for almost 12 years but a combination of price hike, nobody to play with, and storage issues has finally culminated in me leaving.

Thanks for all the advice and feedback, /wip/. It's been fun, but I am out of this hobby.

>>95999583
good, we need more people filtered from this hobby anyway. you will not be missed

>>95999583
/40kg/ is two doors to the right anon
also its a dice game based on random numbers you can play it alone if need be

>>95999583
Good riddance

>>95999583
Post models

>>95999583
By Felicia.

>>95999583
what exactly did Tau Pathfinders do to you?

>>95999583
you missed the general

lol lmao happy to see others leaving this already overcrowded

>>95999559
Bro, just buy a bag of marbles.

>>95999911
just working with what i have at hand in home, sure marbles could work why not

Working on a little necrofella

To the guy who was using ace hardware primer, have you tried their black yet? Wondering if it's good else I'm just getting the 15 dollar chaos black from a local place

>>96000204
>To the guy who was using ace hardware primer, have you tried their black yet?
I bought it, but haven't used it. I normally like bright colours for my Blood Angels, so black primer doesn't really come into play ... even when we're talking about Death Company, because I used that other anon's recipe that involves using Black Legion Contrast Paint over Ace Hardware Light Grey Primer.

>>96000237
>that other anon's recipe that involves using Black Legion Contrast Paint over Ace Hardware Light Grey Primer.
This one

>>95999945
He cute

>>95999408
Yeah he’s me I was obsessed and worried about agitators and rust and regret being so paranoid. That was a long time ago.

Three guys with all base shades and before washes - let's hope these colors will work together in the end.

>>96000423
They should work together. I’d lean towards using a more neutral color for the the base though so it doesn’t clash too much.

>>95999945
Very cool, keep us posted.

Taken me some time to get to this point, I need to touch them up a little but they are almost ready

>>96000535
honestly if you really went backwards and instead of painting the trim you painted around it whitch in my mind is even bigger pain in the ass i applaud you anon
very nice

It will never cease to impress me how incredible shit AP spray cans are.

>>96000635
I'm glad I've never had the misfortune of using AP spray cans. Should I buy something nice to celebrate?

>>96000635
i found one old can from my bottom drawer and tried 3 different nozzles with it to no avail, no wonder i buried it there
smelled really nice though if i have to say something remotely nice

>>96000738
it's pure, unadulterated shit through and through. Literally scam tier garbage.

>>96000635
I find the AP cans vary a lot in quality depending on the colour. I've had decent result with the red one but the yellow and metal ones have been terrible.

>>96000635

I am surprised they still haven't redone those

>>96000626
>if you really went backwards and instead of painting the trim you painted around it whitch in my mind is even bigger pain in the ass
that honestly looks way easier to me. look at the blue and occasional steel surfaces, there's way less complex bullshit to paint on most of it.

>>95999059 (OP)
Basically done with the land raider. Kept it super simple and painless, mainly taking inspiration from the old metal land raider crusader box art, just a mean black box with a couple of transfers.

>>96000249
Hey, that's me kek

I did use some vallejo light grey rattlecan as a primer however, I don't know that ace brand

These days I'm also thinking about testing some brown primer for my marines

Do you guys know if army painter Raven Black is equivalent to corvus black ? I need an air paint equivalent.

>>96001186
is there really such a noticeable difference between crow hue raven black and matt black

>>96000686
>Should I buy something nice to celebrate?
Yes, unless you can celebrate for free, in which case do so instead.

>>96001261
Too late. I've made up my mind to buy some replacement airbrush needles for my airbrush.

Air airbrush needles generally the same length across airbrush brands?
For instance would an Iwata 0.5mm airbrush needle be the same size and length as an 0.5mm Gaahleri airbrush needle?

>>96001060
Weird seeing something this clean from you but it still looks very nice

>>96001227
I dunno, is crow hue the same color as Corvus black ? This is my base paint, it doesn't have to be AP, any air will be fine

>>96001060
>I did use some vallejo light grey rattlecan as a primer however, I don't know that ace brand
Right. I figured the I could substitute the Ace hardware paint (my local equivalent) in your recipe, and it didn't hurt that I got a good discount on it. As a proof-of-concept, I found that it worked well on Lemartes.

got distracted from doing my glade guard and started on a highborn. lord of tirsyth's white ash groves

>>96001322
i dunno either and we wondered that same thing at my lgs with the owner when citadel abaddon black was sold out
he basically said this is just stupid theyre all the same black and i tend to agree

>>96001445
Corvus black doesn't look the same as abaddon black and if your eyes can't see the difference get them checked

>>96001309
Yeah I went easy on it with the details

>>96001331
I see; you made the right call, brand doesn't really matter as long as the primer is nice and smooth, the black looks great.

>>96001445
There's more than one way to make black

Almost done. Haven't painted for a while because my hands were fucked up, so just said screw it to some of the details.

>>96001445
I hate abaddon black so fucking much

>>96001515
>>96001543
im sure someone somewhere might find some use for those specific hues of black
>>96001693
why
>>96001690
looking good even with a bum hand

>>96001305
Is this true? I wanna save money here.

>>96001693
it's crazy how GW managed to make the only bad black paint i've ever used

>>96001543
phthalo green will never stop blowing my mind away with how absurdly beautiful it is

>>96001960
I'm still mad.

>not only AP rattle cans suck in every way imaginable
>but also now, when the paint dried, you can literally swipe it away with a dry brush
I will never buy a single thing from this garbage ass faggot company again.

>>95999059 (OP)
Nearly got these lads done, few more things then transfers

Still got around 1.4k points to paint before august

Would sand from a beach with reasonably coarse sand work as a basing mix?

>>96002025
that's a perfect mix really. pretty much what I use

>>96002025
playground sand best sand

>>96002087
>>96002101
Sweet, I'll grab some next time I'm there. After that I have to dry it, heat it up in the oven for an hour or so and I'm good to go, right?

Freebota stealth stompa
Still missing rust and metal details plus some cleanup and the grot crew
whadayya think?

>>96002186
get the grit you want and yes you can oven it if you want
some anons swear they have gotten bugs from bringing sand inside and it would be brought up eventually
ovening removes the moisture too so 2 birds with one stone

>>96002213
>>96002219
little grime and wear and tear here and there and its great but that bone color on armor plates does not work imho

On holidays but found a lotr trivial persuit game that had beautiful pewter minis. i need to add more higlights and fix the face and some minor details. i want to get better, gotta keep being shit until then

>>95999945
Based Necrobuddy alliance. Oh wait, that's a fucking cultist head and the beard and hat are completely hand made. That's really impressive. So you're using the cultist head to basically make like a Sorting Hat for him?

>>96001543
far left is almost erotic

>>96003059
What do you see?

Done, only the base left.

>>96002750
Nice gandalf
>>96002019
Love the gold and purple combo
>>96001060
Very nice work. Impressive

>>96001060
wow that looks great! seeing stuff like that really keeps me hungry to keep learning and practicing and generally getting better. I'm constantly amazed by how content with mediocrity so many people are when it comes to their work. The constructive criticism and lack of faggotry in these threads in refreshing.

>>96001543
Hobby blacks are all going to be PBK7 and you know that.

My dumbass kitbash idea made this take forever, but Im happy with how they turned out. I can always go back and weather them more but after working on these for a month straight I need to do something other than batch painting.

No one fucking likes batch painting but we all trick ourselves into doing it. Ever wonder why?

>>96003834
but i do like batch painting
i also like your little robots

>>96003202
a beautiful shade, gradient, and texture. It vaguely resembles a woman holding up her black hair and facing right in her green dress. She is either sitting down or is poking her ass out.

But mostly it's just a gorgeous shade of green.

>>96004469
Hey yeah I can see a woman now as well. She's facing away and looking to the right.

uuooh vague shape color blotch erotic ToT

My ongoing project.

>>96004498
is she flipping abaddon off

>>96004502
takes some serious pride to tell mecha super satan to go fuck himself inside car sized demon claymore distance.

>>96004502
Holding a knife and defending something really really important from Abaddon.

>>96004508
>>96004502
>>96004498

>>96004513
Well that's an unfortunate angle.

Looks more like he lost his balance screaming in fear and is about to fall on his ass while "protecting" an ammo can.

>>96004518
That's intentional, she's supposed to be in a defending, fleeing stance. Guess I should add some morge badges to the chest to make it look more important.

Has anyone tried that salt chipping method with 40k miniatures? Does it work? I have a PBC I've been wanting to work on lately and I want to really push the chipping a bit harder.

Two questions Wip-bros

Can somebody a suggest another color similar to but different from Rhinox hide preferably made by AP or AK interactive? I don't like the curretn Vallejo charred brown that I've been using. Or is rhinox hide simply the best?


And second, I rarely see painting for seraphon that doesn't involve contrast paints. I'm kind of a brainlet in this regard so I need to see somebody do something before I can try to do it myself.

So does anyone have their own style or methodology for Seraphon? Cause I'm planning on painting a Skink starpriest and I'd like him to look extra cool beyond the contrast method mostly used on common saurus and skinks. And tips for painting/drybrushing the stone altar would also be appreciated.


>>95998975
looks v good. what color will the eyes be? you gonna go pink or yellow with the tongue highlight?

>>96004596
>So does anyone have their own style or methodology for Seraphon?
Question too broad, brain overloaded, here's some nice color schemes.

>>96004596
I'm undecided on the eyes. My instincts say red, but maybe black would work. Maybe something else close to red like orange or yellow. I'm thinking pink for the tongue and gums. Like that cheek pocket he has that's red at the moment will definitely be pink, so the tongue should probably follow that.

>35C outside, 27C inside, 27% air humidity in the room
>paint dries on brush during the work

I hate when this happens. Anyone have some home-made solutions for that problem?

>>96004596
>Can somebody a suggest another color similar to but different from Rhinox hide preferably made by AP or AK interactive?
Get Stahly's tool, all of them are in the previous thread.

>>96004856
AC. You can buy portable ones on Amazon.

>>96004856
retarder?

>>96004856
retard?

Getting a vortex mixer was such a good investment, using it for technical paints, especially shaders, and it really feels like I'm using those the way they're supposed to be now.
Shaking them by hand like an asshole for ages doesn't hold as good a result.

Almost done.

>>96004985
Agreed. Especially when you get a decent one not one of the low powered cheap ones.
You're actually using the paints as they were intended and you can really compare how paints behave by keeping at least one of the many variables constant.

Anyone have experience with Vallejo's Xpress color? I read somewhere they don't apply well over regular acrylic paint and can only apply to pure primer.
Is that true?

>>96005194
>I read somewhere they don't apply well over regular acrylic paint and can only apply to pure primer.
That's an absolute nonsense. I have about fifteen of them and they all work fine.

>>96005194
Nah, the work great over acrylic. I use them to increase saturation via the airbrush while I don’t buy proper inks.

>>96004865
>dry out the room even faster
smart

>>96004856
You know how you can buy dehumidifiers to stop moisture and mould? They also make humidifiers for dry climates. Get one of those.

>>96005032
people are so fixated on the shiny new detailed sculpts but the old n64-tier blocky fantasy models have so much more charm.

>>96005311
>>96005404
Thanks, I'll give them a shot. So far their regular acrylics have been really good.

I trust you anons' eye for this
I want to swap out the torso on the palanite enforcer kit, and was considering the arbites torso. Knowing GW the older enforcer kit is going to have chunkier limbs and shorter legs. Do you think it would work?
Pic is the best comparison I could find

>>96005646
They really don't. Not even for army painters.

Working on a halfling goat rider using the chrome steel / diluted black ink method here.

Here's another I worked up. Been working on a truescale fantasy project for a setting I'm working up where the halflings are the most powerful force in the setting through some fairly clever (I think) moves on their part as mostly farmers who live in "hobbit hole" style dwellings. sort of a faux-renaissance late medieval thing going on. I often find the work of the sculptors of the minis helps tell some of those stories, I take inspiration from them while painting them up. These guys are from footsore miniatures. Pretty unique in that they are truescale which is quite uncommon for halflings as far as my research goes.

Another angle of the fusilier. The sculpts themselves are obviouwly done up with a lot of inspiration taken from Landsknecht and tercio styled 16th century formations and troops.

>>96004596
>Rhinox Hide
Duncan's range has Cuirass Leather which is very nice. It's runny but covers really well and the shade is beautiful imo
>Seraphon
These lizards lend themselves really well to contrasts but it's not like you HAVE to use them. You can just do the standard base-wash-drybrush on dudes that have scales and just regular layering on stuff like Skinks. On this here dude I started from temple guard blue and worked up to baharroth blue for highlights and down to stegadon scale green for shadows. Grey stone is pretty straightforward as well, basecoat with medium grey, put a black wash/thinned down black paint into the recesses and drybrush with brighter greys of your choice. Starseer is a really nice kit btw, I had a lot of fun painting it and I'm sure you will too.

>>96004985
Why not just fashion a clamp for pots that you can put in your powerdrill?

>>96006502
NTA, but do you have some experience with painting/shading lizards with oil washes? They seem like a prime target for it.

>>96006556
A tiny vortex that lives permanently on your desk is much more convenient than having to get the power drill out. The vortex takes seconds to use, you don't need to secure the bottle so it doesn't fly all around, the vortexing allows the paint to mix together neatly and on top of that it even looks neat.
I don't really see the downside to using a vortex. Why wouldn't you just use one?

>>96006580
I don't know, tapping the pot to a power drill just sounds more convenient and safer than whatever you fags are talking about.

>>96006564
I don't, unfortunately. I definitely see how they could work really well for lizards, though. I will give oil washes a go eventually, I've only tried some enamels so far and I really enjoy working with them.

>>96006661
>>96006502
Damn that's some gorgeous paintjob

>>96006661
Do you use an airbrush? How long do you spend per model or batch of models?

How do you guys keep yourselves from an heroing while batch painting?
Currently chugging my way through the Horus Heresy on audio book.

>>96006724
I like painting. Dunno why you would do it if you don't enjoy it.

>>96006616
Fucking retard

>>96006724
don't ever batch paint.

Felt like I had to add another spot of colour to the weapons and different tufts for the bases.

>>96003053
I quite like that dagger + gem

Yea, his head is from the frost grave barbarian sprue with the top shaved down, a disc of green stuff glued on top of that, and then a cultist head glued on top of that. I plan to paint some snaggle teeth on the brim to give him a silly funny face hat

>>95999103

Update, nearly done.

>>96006580
The power drill is always at hand? I don't see how a mans tools can be so "away" that "getting them out" is a hassle.
>>96006617
This is also fine.

Just don't see the need to buy a dedicated tool for something my general purpose tools already cover.

What size of magnets do I get to magnetize my minis?

>>96007216
Citadel bases are about 2mm high
I use 10 x 2mm neodymium magnets in bulk off amazon

>>96006704
Thank you anon! I personally think that vibrant colors are the way to go with these guys
>>96006717
Yeah I use an airbrush for basecoats where possible and some initial transitions if need be. I always take it one mini at a time, can't exactly tell you how long exactly it took for 1 Saurus desu. Including airbrushing ~10 hours maybe? When painting more detailed minis I spend probably 15-20 on one model.

>>96007216
I use 6x1mm for 20mm-32mm bases
Anything bigger I start to double up

Three guys from yesterday done. Official colors had jackets in orange with yellow but since they are named Firefly and in fluff are demolition experts, they MUST have green jackets.

Still have 7 guys to paint but I start to feel like forcing myself to finish, especially since I have paid vacation right now. Anyone had that problem before?

>>96006617
Now that is a blast from the past.
I think this is the video that inspired it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7jwhy7neaI

I actually learned to just use my hands and arms until they wear out. Then I'll consider getting a proper paint mixer.

I am planning to revisit some old minis where I left some gaps unfilled. Is it a bad idea to just paint right on top of the greenstuff once it’s dry? Is there some kind of paint on primer I can use? I don’t want to reprime and repaint every mini, just correct some past sloppiness

>>96007904
get some bottled primer, useful thing to have. Generally meant for airbrush application, but also works quite well for patch ups like that

>>96007926
are you supposed to thin brush on primer when applying? or just moist brush? bought a small bottle a while back but have been hesitant to actually use it on anything

Trying to decide which of these should be the war wolf for my trench crusade heretics. I think the bestairum sculpt on the right may look better with paint, it's a little unreadable/spaghetti in the grey.

>>96007472
I "forced" myself to paint a large (14) batch minis a while back and it burned me out for a month or two, so wouldn't suggest it. (Didn't help that the minis in question had a lot of trim and repetitive detail).

>>96008080
Paint, then decide. Or alternate.

Done. Now the necron army

>>96008615
Not big on stormcast but these dudes turned out pretty good

I've searched far and wide for an acrylic paint that truly looks like Phthalo Green and I swear I've never found it

>>96008711
Is that a giant tin of fun dip powder?

>>96008711

Kimera Colors

Pthalo Green - KK-10

>>96008061
I don’t use vallejo primer, but the brush-on primer I own definitely needs to be thinned down quite a bit.

>>96008149
>(Didn't help that the minis in question had a lot of trim and repetitive detail).
Thousand sons?

Been picking over my local Boyes shops for their remaining old style Vallejo Model Colours. Also got a weird bottle with a long neck.

Need a VGC Goblin Green too but only seeing the new ones

>>96008367
No, but close! Mezgike Dredge marines

>>96009032
So what I meant to say was, any essential Vallejo Model Colours for you lads?

Your Cavalry Brown or Amaranth Red that you love

>>96008875
nta
I have painted probably close to 100 TSons
I am so done with trim that I will be paying people to paint any more TSons I could need. I just can't do it anymore

>>96009150
sounds about right

Oil wash continues to elude me, my white armour stains too much when i do.

>>96009193
A little mineral spirit in a makeup sponge should clean it up, you can stop too much wicking by letting the oil cure a bit before cleaning up what you don't want

>>96001353
uhhhhhhh elf? elf?

>>96009193
A smoother surface stains less, so slapping on a varnish that pushes things towards gloss will usually help reduce it.

>>96009034
What’s that dropper bottle behind the army painter metal paint full of?
Marine juice?

>>96003622
Wrong as usual!

>>96008061
Vallejo Primers don't need to be thinned for brush, at least the grey and black ones anyway.
I use them off a wet pallet, so I guess you would use a very wet brush if you were applying them straight out of the bottle. They dry nice and tight, and are one of the most durable non-spray can primers. Satin finish though.

>>96009409
Yep, though I've only used it a little and haven't been super impressed with it.

>>96009238
I love the old wfb wood elf stuff, nice job. Autumn is the patricians choice of seasonal scheme too

>paint these 10 minis in the exact same way you've done before
>stfu liberal that sounds boring
>paint this one unique model and make up a color scheme on the fly
>yes of course random box of minis all glory to creativity
I need to be better disciplined or something otherwise 90% of what i own will never be painted

>>96009630
I think there is a bit “skill” involved in properly handing washes and applying them. Lord knows I haven’t mastered it yet. I’ve made the reikland fleshshade dark tone and lahmian medium version and I swear I think I’m using it wrong. Somehow. I know washes just get slapped on and watch out for excess pooling but even then I feel like I fail at that.

>>96009630
Which version of it?

>>96010184
To clarify my comment: the properties of the marine juice are approximately equivalent to the constituent parts, it just doesn't feel like a huge upgrade given the cost.

>>96010254
"Marine juice remixed" by Sonic Sledgehammer, yt vid jDOkiEcNcik

>>96010260
Fair enough anon. Thank you.

>>96010271
Thanks! The new one he made is armypainter warm skin shade dark tone and speedpaint medium.
I guess the anti-citadel autists might like it.
He mixes a lot of speedpaint medium into his washes. What is speedpaint/contrast medium mostly made up with?

>>95999226
Got a link for those caps?

>>96010396
I bought them at.
https://www.amazon.ca/PATIKIL-Squeeze-Replacement-Dispensing-Bottles/dp/B0CFF1FCP3?th=1
There's a German reviewer who even mentions ProAcryl.

There's also >>95975476

Progress on my first rank of greatswords. Coming along slowly but trying not to burn myself out.

>>96010427
Much appreciated. May your layers be smooth.

>>96007167
Are these prints?

>>96010139
I'm you from the future, we don't change.

>>96004985
Prefer this style

>>96011273
imagine how that must feel on your dick

>>96011305
Don't have to

>>96011273
But this thing is so expensive though

>>96008819
These seem really hard to find, none of the shops I usually check run them.

>>96010797

Yes. Did not print them myself though.

>>96011305
wtf, I tried this and it twisted my dick off???!?!?

>>96011419
>These seem really hard to find, none of the shops I usually check run them.
https://www.dickblick.com/products/holbein-heavy-body-artist-acrylics/?Item=01656-7806
A bottle of this and a couple bottles of medium will do you for the rest of your life. or you could go for a "soft body" like
https://www.dickblick.com/products/liquitex-professional-soft-body-acrylics/?Item=00616-7063
Need less thinning and they're more controllable, but more expensive per ounce of properly-thinned paint. Either way you need the paint to be a little thicker than usual to get the proper dark green tone, but you can definitely get it on miniatures. Pic related, even if it isn't my best work.

>>96005646
>>96006379
Finished now

>>96010184
>I think there is a bit “skill” involved in properly handing washes and applying them.
What are things to remember besides watching out for pooling when applying washes?

>>96011536
Nice monkeys.

>>96009078
Deck tan, burnt umber, Iraqi sand, ivory, sunny skin tone. I also really like Old wood from the new Model Colour range (I think it's a Panzer Aces colour that got ported over).

Figured this was probably the best place to ask - haven't painted in decades due to shakey hands from health problems ruining my motivation, recently had things improve so was thinking about giving it a go again.
Last time I painted there were £100 complete paint sets from games workshop and arguments over vallejo.

Feel completely out of the loop and out of my depth, are there any recommended ranges and sets these days for someone wanting to get a bulky range since I'll be starting from scratch again?

>>96011273
But having your hand vibrate with the pot is fun

>>96011678
Vallejo did a reformulation, and so it is VERY and I mean VERY easy to leave unpopped bubble marks when the paint dries.
So I recommend AK Interactive that basically are close enough to Vallejo paints.

>haven't painted in decades due to shakey hands from health problems ruining my motivation
This video should help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g
Get some poster tack and painting handles. Since you mention health problems you might have some bill containers lying around. They can be pretty good painting handles with poster tack. Also known as sticky tack.

Just remember to remove the sticker labeling on the pill bottles so that you don't accidentally show your address here if you want to show off your work here for criticism and critique.

>>96011678
Brands that are much cheaper than Citadel for material: Army Painter, Vallejo, AK
Ways to get minis for cheap: second-hand (ebay, facebook mp, local options like vinted), chink recasts (war-tabl is top quality)
Video about painting with shaky hands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g

>>96011699
>Vallejo did a reformulation, and so it is VERY and I mean VERY easy to leave unpopped bubble marks when the paint dries.
Huh is that what that is. I just thought it was a skill issue with my mixing and thinning. The bubbles get really annoying unless you go really slowly. That's annoying, I've got a whole collection of Vallejo paints built up now.

>>96011699
>VERY and I mean VERY easy to leave unpopped bubble marks when the paint dries
It's not that bad honestly, you just need to apply it smoothly and not slap on too much paint on at once. It's still fucking annoying though so there's no reason to get Vallejo over other brands.

>>96011726
>>96011727
I've had this issue with both AK and vallejo, but not with AP.
However I don't like how thin AP paints are.

>>96011699
>>96011704
Thanks, hands aren't perfect but less of an issue these days, hence why I'm trying to get back into painting. Mostly just lost when it comes to what paint range to look into since despite being willing to let Citidel gouge me with their daft prices they no longer seem to sell a bulk supply of their paint range and having to pick through it when even the names have all changed seems a chore if there are decent alternatives.

Will check out the recommendations later today when I'm free - much appreciated.

>>96009238
glade guard to go with. Will polish them off and start the front row tomorrow

>>96011678
The army painter warpaints fanatic paints I've bought recently are way better than all the stuff I was getting ~5 years ago (mostly vallejo and scale 75) Great consistentcy and coverage.

ordered a knockoff H&S from Temu for $20 will report back in a week or so on if its any improvement over the usual Chinesium builds

You have made a deodorant tank, right?

>>96011886
i think mine has decorated some landfill somewhere for a better part of 20 years by now

>>96011849
It's quite literally like every other chinesium from the same factory

Took me way too long to find the axe blade in my bits for this exo-armour squat.

>>96011979
This is the first ever "multi-material made conversion" that I ever looked at went: "Woah that looks incredible even when unpainted!"
How long until we can expect it to get painted? Would love to see the finished model.

>>96011991
>How long until we can expect it to get painted?
To quote JFK: "...before this decade is out..."
Still need to get some bits to finish off his buddies, then paint them together.

>>96011957
the nozzle, needle, valves etc are likely from same factory but its a different build and cup setup from my current one. maybe their shitty fault tolerance RNG rolls in my favor for once

>>96011849
>>96011957
Wait a minute you mean to tell me this is not the exact same airbrush H&S makes only 100 times cheaper? How is this possible?

>>95999059 (OP)
Continuing work on my pirates. It's going to take a while.

>>96012073
Holy shit that's good.

>>96012073
wow man your brush work on the coat of the older homosexual is amazing.

>>96009229
>>96009289
I am using all the tricks, except for varnishing before, I think I just gotta bit the sour apple and gloss varnish before oil washing as I dont have the tools for a smooth surface atm, only cans and its too hot for not chunky.

>>96012045
(you)

Use non-chinese one and you'll notice a huge difference in everything from build quality to atomization. At least I did and I'm glad I graduated from a cheap one.

If all you're doing is priming then sure use a cheap one.

>>96012106
I was just joking anon. Making fun of the sperg that sometimes comes in this general and tells everyone to buy everything from chinks since he thinks it's the exact same shit

>>96012162
kekaroo

>>96011886
My deodorant tank was in this month's Wargames Illustrated magazine :)

>>96012045
imagine being the same exact airbrush only 100 times cheaper, when you can get it 1000 times cheaper from Craft Chong Market.

Anybody ever use the dip method of washing? How'd it work out?

>>96012404
Surprisingly well. Just dip and then dab away the excess. Not recommended for super detailed paint jobs, but pairing that with speed paints knocks out like 30 minis in a day.

>>96012179
Nice job anon

>>96012073
I think his right pupil, left in pic, is a bit too far over maybe but maybe it's just the picture.
But looks like a really nice start.
I've got some other busts to paint but this one is definitely on my list. I've always liked Treasure Island. I was thinking of painting the black spot though instead of a map.

>>96012811
I'm just trying to figure out what busts have to do with /tg/. Aren't those video game characters too?

my current Hundred Year War army

>>96013027
I don't think Treasure Island needs an explanation. If it does I feel sorry for you.

>>96013068
/lit/, /vg/, same difference. Not /tg/.

>>96013027
/wip/ is essentially a painting thread, stop being an ass

>>96012404
I just use a giant brush to wash the mini quickly, which is arguably the same method.

>>96002186
No, you most certainly don't have to, I've never done it and had never heard about it for 30+ years

>>96013132
/tg/ is a gaming board.

>>96013260
then go play with yourself son

>>96008711
Literally every art store will stick a few brands of artists acrylics of that exact colour

>>96009078
Did you really buy GW pva glue?

>>96013260
By your logic /wip/ doesn't belong here in the first place but fortunately you're not the one deciding that

>>96013260
You do know there's a function to report posts, right? If you think something doesn't belong, report it. Then we'll see who's right and who's wrong. Bitching about it doesn't do anything.

>>96013038
Are you done pretending it's an empire army in wfg?

>>96013260
Does not mean that /wip/ is not painting thread. Holy shit, it's almost as pointless "discussion" as local sperg that try to argue that plastic girls model kits does not belong to mecha musimy thread on /toy/ or another shitposter spergs that tried to "sheriff" /m/ because they didn't like said plastic girls in gunpla/plamo thread, calling them "trans" (in case anyone would wonder - they made these threads unusable for quite long until people got pissed off enough to attract mods attention).

So instead of bitching about some painting scale models/busts/whatever do what this thread exist for - post your work, discuss techniques and so on. No shitposting. Thank you.

>>96013449
*mecha musume

>>96013404
Are you done being an obnoxious asshole? Go back to your dedicated warhammer containment thread, nobody wants you here

>>96013404
Lol, I dont remember doing that.

I think I posted part of it in the GW specialty thread a while ago thinking about using part of it for a warband for mordheim. Though I dont think I claimed it to be empire. In fact, it seems right in the middle period wise between bretonian 13th-early 14th century stuff and late 15th-early 16th empire stuff.

Maybe a boarder prince retinue under the obscure prince henry the V

>>96013570
I may have had you mixed up with a guy who kept posting Perry historical minis on round bases and pretending it was an empire army.

>>96008711
dude just buy an art store acrylic like golden soflat/fluid acrylic.

>>96013599
thats weird.

Ive put them on circles so I can do skirmish games too. Ive used them for Rangers of shadow deep, and I would like to try others like the Baron's war and the aforementioned mordheim.

but yah, they look nothing like empire troops. I think perry has some war of the roses/late 1400s models that could possibly be passible. the european infantrfy and foot knights look pretty sweet.

>>96013397
>jannies adhere to the rules
Holy newfaggotry!

>>96013652
I want you to show the thought process on how you came to this conclusion based on what I wrote.

>>96013717
If you don't see it, you're actually, literally retarded.

>>96013749
Apology accepted.

Opening up a kit I bought myself to give miniatures a go and it looks like one of the included paints was packaged ajar. Why does blue paint leave a dookie stain?

>>96013851
GW pots sometimes simply shit themselves. They can't stand the shame of existing, being the worst paint pots in the history of mankind.

>>96013027
Busts are even worse than Infinity slop which is saying something.

>>96013901
trying too hard, samefag-kun

>>96013849
Egotistical delusions are a common expression in intellectually inferior persons as a coping mechanism.

>>96013901
They serve no purpose, /wip/, being in /tg/, is for game pieces.

>>96013948
>>96013919

>>96013952
Just because you have schizophrenic multiple personalities doesn't mean they do.

>>96013851
It's a pot not ajar

>>96014016
It's a bottle.

>>96014048
That's what she said.

>>96013919
>>96013948
Infinity minis and busts look like garbage. They don't belong anywhere.

>>96014131
>>96013919

>Brother Furio, Chaplain of the Blood Angels, considers the strategic value of the Diarrhea Planet
Interestingly enough, "Diarrhea Planet" is the name of a punk band from Nashville.

>>96009150
Why so many? It’s an elite army.

>>96014269
>Why so many?
Are we all not cursed thusly?

I printed this cute looking hellhound proxy and used the nice weather to prime it.

>>96014333
Very tidy print. Where's the stls from?

I have some foliage clumps I need to stick on a tree. I have classic white glue and modge podge, I've seen both of them used for this but which is better?

>>96014395
Mod Podge is just white glue mixed with a bit of varnish, they'll both do the same job, one might just end up shinier than the other afterwards

>>96014339
Its from Grim Prints

>>96014269
I use them in HH too
For 30k I've done
20 Khenetai (pic)
20 Scarab
10 Support Squad guys (I stopped this for Line units)
Many characters
A lot of kitbashing using just the torsos/legs for a bit of bling

For 40k (Which I've sense sold because I just use the HH models)
I did 10 Scarab
20-30ish Rubrics
Characters

>bought some kdm pinups
>assembled a couple
>tfw too scared to actually paint them
I want them to look as good as possible but that just makes it feel too daunting of a task

>>96014558
You'll never fuck them up if you don't paint them. Alternately you'll never get any better if you don't try

>>96014558
get a cheap Reaper mini with a lot of exposed skin and practice

>>96014180
had some good tunes, unfortunate name
dig the dirtiness you achieved on the parchment and skull

>>96014558
If you fuck up, you can always strip and try again. Come on, I also felt scared when I tried painting 75mm half-naked archer lady but it was precisely why I picked half-naked one - to face extensive skin painting.

Had little breakdown too but /wip/ was helpful as always.

>>96014558
>>96014612
This. Paint some shit minis, build confidence, get your recipie right, paint your kdm waifus. You can do it and it's easier than you think.

>>96014611
>>96014747
yeah, I know I can just strip and start again if I'm dissatisfied with the result but the feeling of having to redo everything will be soul crushing
But will have to try anyways once I'm done with the current project, I won't learn how to paint skin if I never attempt it

>>96014612
in hindsight I should've done something like this and got something to practice on first but at this point might as well go off the deep end and learn on some of the pinups I like less than the others

gandalf is complete. onto basing. please someone gibe advice on applying flocking. i have an aplicator, a tiny mesh sive, how badly will i fuck up?
>inb4 drill the barrels
fuck off im lazy

>>96015099
For me, I apply white glue where I want the flocking. Then I dip the base into it. After that, I just give the mini a couple of taps so the excess falls off.

Necron coming through !

>>96015495
Necrons awakening ankle deep in faeces on New New Delhi Colony and reminding us all why they hate biologicals.

>>96015495
im happy with the results. thank you

>>96015495
cricket sure has changed in the year 40k

>>96015527
The base is really not done yet !

Thank your sirs.

>>96015495
Was this a spray? What colour/brand?

>>96015779
Airbrush from temu + gun metal from army painter

>>96015802
Was it you who posted about the $20 temu airbrush recently on /tg/?
How'd that go?

>>96015805
Honestly, it’s not great. but for $20, it does the job for base coats. I’ll upgrade once I’ve got more experience.

>>96002019
Finished 4 lads with shields , onto the icon lad now

>>96015840
I have a similar airbrush and find the motor to be pretty underpowered. I do like that it's portable though

i hope the wash doesnt turn out too bad. a coat of varnish in the morning and im done

My knight is coming along. I got the gold on the head exactly how I wanted it. I'm gonna start the armor panels tomorrow I really want to see how they come out.

>>96015675
The howzat dynasty.

>>96015840
>I'm going to force myself to learn on a dysfunctional piece of shit tool that doesn't even behave like the real thing
please do not. go fucking buy a real compressor with a tank ffs. you deserve to have the real thing, even if you haven't proven yourself with it yet.

>>96016091
t. Mr John Iwata, paying off his third yacht

>>96016091
It’s more of a learning tool, like figuring out how to thin my paints and clean an airbrush. I don’t want to mess up a good one just because I don’t know how to use it properly.

That’s pretty much how I approach everything.

>>96016060
I like your white

>>96015926
I have to speak out. The lighting you use for these pictures make it look like gandalf is a about to get raped. They look like fucking hostage photos. You can't just turn the light off and point a light at him. You need to put him in a box so the light bounces.

>>96016193
Your post had the opposite effect. From now on, I want any and all further updates to use exclusively use this film noir gandalf rape scene format.

>>96003354
>>96003487
Appreciated lads

>>96016060
>I got the gold on the head exactly how I wanted it.
It's a good feeling isn't it

>>96014333
>>96016501
Christ, I haven't phone posted in so long, I forgot how to do it. I was going to comment on how some madlad in the distant future decided to make an STC for the L3 as a joke or something.

>>96016269
>It's a good feeling isn't it
Oh yeah. Such a smooth satisfaction, even if half of it feels like luck.
>>96016187
Thank you. More to come.

Just airbrushed some black primer on this model.

The local hobby store is having a monthly painting competition. They were giving out free 3d printed models. There was a little selection of different models, I picked this guy. He came with a 25mm puddle base that was a bit too small for him.

I built up the base with corkboard (ol' reliable) and a coat of AK Terrain Desert Sand. I wish I had "thinned" the rock he was standing on so it was more of a jagged protrusion of rock, not a kinda square looking thing. I made those crystals from hexagon plastic rods. (They're .125"/3.2mm, the largest the Plastruct company has in their catalogue. I have no idea what I was thinking when I ordered 0.03"/0.8mm sized ones, they're so small, they're like tiny, round plastic cables, I messed up)

I put the model on a big tactical rock because I think the posing was a bit off. The default model was hunched a bit too forward, hiding some details, I tilted it not just to the side, but backwards as well to reveal more of the face.

I cropped the photo but didn't compress it. If you open the full image you can see the 3d printed layer lines. In a close up picture like this they look FUCKING CRAZY! There's so fucking many of them! They're everywhere!

I sanded away the most obvious print lines on the sword, the head and some of the raised surfaces, but jesus CHRIST they're everywhere.

How common are these print lines on 3d printed models? What resolution is needed to hide these? Is this is because they printed it too fast? Is this what someone should expect if they order a 3d printed model?

rate my boutique armor paintjob
feel like a total retard that didnt know what he was doing.
>Turbo Dork Peacock base coat(s)
>Turbo Dork Absinthe drybrush
>Talassar Blue recess shading

>>96016641
3d printing is a meme.
it does not look good for small finely-detailed models.
GW DOES overcharge for their injection-molded plastic. But their injection-molded plastic is a superior product, if you don't factor in cost.

>>96016781
Lmao, I print figures with capes and wings that are a millimetre thick while injection molded plastic requires those things to be quarter inch or more gigantic chunks.

>>96016794
>millimetre thick
drop it from table height.

>>96016807
A) If they break reprinting is cheap as balls
B) I'm not a nigger with my miniatures and I won't play with or around anyone who is.

>>96016781
Yeah, this is a big thing. I'm already a slow painter for army models. I can imagine myself spending like a hundred hours focusing on some special character model. I think I already have for my still WIP Imperial Knight. If I'm going to invest crazy amounts of time into a model, it makes a lot of sense to invest money upfront to get a perfect base scupture.

>>96016844
> If they break reprinting is cheap as balls
And here's part of the 3dprinting mindset I understand but just can't agree with. I spend hours on each model. My emotional investment is much higher, so once again, it makes sense to have some more financial investment in them

> I'm not a nigger with my miniatures and I won't play with or around anyone who is.
I'm humble enough to admit my limits, and I know that I will accidently swipe at every single model I can. Just an errant thought and bam, it's on the floor now.

>>96016794
Do you use some kind of robust resin that also holds detail really nicely?
I wouldn't waste my time printing something with structures and details that delicate.

>>96016888
All resin holds detail nicely? I've had a 2k printer for years and recently got a 10k, no notable difference in detail to my eyes and print lines are rarely an issue, primer and a couple thin coats of paint hide 90% of them easily.

>>96016794
>Lmao, I print figures with capes and wings that are a millimetre thick while injection molded plastic requires those things to be quarter inch or more gigantic chunks.

or

>GW tries to make their designs uncopyable by 3dprinters thats why they add all these new fiddly bits and flying scrollwork and tiny details that are only possible with hard plastic injection molding just look at these new models with all the shit floating around them

???

which one is it my dude
it can't be both

>>96016959
I'm sorry, where the fuck did you imagine I wrote the second half of this? You're delusional.

>>96016641
3D print lines are dependent on the layer height of your print. More layers will give you a smoother finish but will take longer to print. You can also combine it with anti aliasing to make print lines literally invisible in most areas.

>>96016888
15mm Bloodthirster, upscaled from a 6mm file

>>96016967
15mm Lord of Change, downscaled from a scan of an old 32mm scale mini and reposed so it can lay flat in a 2cm deep felt lined tray.

>>96016972
Part of a portable Blood Bowl kit I put together.

I don't get resin minis. They feel too fragile and I hate that you have to use superglue.

>>96017058
>have to use superglue.
Or if you print your bases in resin you can join the minis with a touch of liquid resin and a UV flashlight to get the same bond as plastic glue does.

>>96017058
>too fragile
The hell do you do with your minis?!

>>96015926
make sure you brush the little grass fibers off of gandalf before you varnish. Unless your goal was to make it look like he's covered in grass after being raped.

>>96016641
they printed this dood too fast, layer height too big. You might be able to brush some ardcoat on to fill in the lines a bit.

>>96016641
Is this an fdm print?

>>96016959
It certainly isn't the later, because both printers and recasters can easily copy anything that he is releasing.

>>96017058
As someone who is allergic against super glue fumes I agree on the 2nd part. (There is an expensive version of it without fumes tho). But fragility is really not an issue with all the flexible resins available.

>>96017090
I smash together while making sound effects with my mouth.

slaving away on the Space Elves

>>96016981
ingenious!
I have just started to get into Blood Bowl proper. A mini version is such a great idea.

>>96016641
You usually rarely see the print lines, IF its a somewhat modern printer, the models were angled in a somewhat reasonable way, and if the settings like layer height and AA are applied properly.

>>96016682
I've seen much worse.

man whoda thunk that I'm actually enjoying painting once again when I'm intentionally painting much simpler and faster instead of going all out and taking forever to finish and burning out in the process

>>96016641
I literally don't get why people buy their own printers nowadays. With etsy and ebay etc you can just buy prints from people who already know what they're doing. It will probably take you $1000 in resin bottles before you recuperate your investment, which at that time you have already printed more armies than you could ever need lol.

>>96017651
>It will probably take you $1000 in resin bottles before you recuperate your investment

Are you insane? How much do you think a decent printer costs these days? How much do you think resin costs?
And lastly, do you know current GW prices?

You can easily print 2 combat patrols worth of minis with 1 liter of resin, and then the printer already is paid off.

>>96017651
>I literally don't get why people buy their own printers nowadays

I mean, I won't blame anyone for not having suitable space if we're talking about resin. Trying to mitigate health risks is a given as well. FDM is probably still a good while away from doing 28mm infantry cleanly, but still fine for vehicles.

>>96017651
My printer cost less than 200€, and my entire setup was less than 400€, resin included. That's like what, 3 GW models?

>>96017742
Paying to give yourself cancer.

>>96017757
And we are moving the goalposts already?

>>96017742
NTA and I know this isn't /3dpg/ but is that setup enough to get clean, good quality prints? I want to get a resin printer eventually

>>96017847
Any current and previous generation printer can get you good quality prints. Mars 4 Ultra would probably the most reasonable "low budget" option.
Smoothness and clean prints have more to do with your settings and how you orient the files in the slicer than the actual printer.

>>96017847
The quality is good enough for me at least. Some models have such tiny details that my printer struggles with them, but those details are far smaller than anything in GW models, such as realistically proportioned fingers with nails. But if you are printing anything with just GW level detail then the right sub 200€ printer will do fine.

>>96016153
nta, you cant mess up an airbush unless you drop it out the window
you are learning 'wrong' because that shit is so underpowered and inconsistent that you have to make do overthinning your paint and shit, really, get a compressor with a tank, or biuld one if you have the skils and a scrapyard nearby

>>96017929
Or just use an alternative for 20 bucks

>>96016781
They overcharge and they overcharge by such a ridiculous margin it's incredible GW is not named Judaic Workshop. Look at scale models, for fucks sake. You can get a full 1:35 tank model, with near perfect plastic, extra metal details, and the crew, for a price of one Dreadnaught which will still have a fuckload of injection marks, left artifacts from 3D sculpting/modelling, and will generally be a worse product.

Btw you can print shit on par with GW "quality" just fine.

>>96016153
People tell you to backwash to mix paint, I'd so don't do it because you risk forcing the paint back past the needle packing screw and around your trigger and air valve. Not good.

20:80 vallejo flow improver to thinner pre-mixed in a bottle. Spray at 18-20 psi when you get a compressor

Never pull your trigger back before you push down for air.

Get used to a routine for cleaning your airbrush after use, including the needle.

Learn to disassemble and reassemble the whole thing.

Once you get a compressor, always unscrew the water trap after a session because it there will be trapped moisture in there. It will rust if it doesn't get dry and when you release the pressure on the water trap once in a while it will spew water full of rust everywhere. Not fun.

Learn about tip drying and how to fix it while airbrushing, H&S has some good videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8QYI8feQnE
https://youtu.be/J9PL5tT8BsQ?si=ruwyvZihXH2F-CUM&t=551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CcnuMLYu-k&t

Just a few tips on how airbrushing went from frustrating to enjoyable for me.

>>96017966
>Get used to a routine for cleaning your airbrush after use, including the needle.
>Learn to disassemble and reassemble the whole thing.

NTA but that's what ultimately drove me away from even trying airbrushing. Except that, in foolish moment, I actually got simple airbrush with mini-compressor (that very small one, pic related, different company but Im sure it's pretty much the same) and never, ever used it, except only connecting to power to check if it actually works. Wasted 60€.

>>96017997
Everything is hard in the beginning. I can clean my airbrush pretty fast now after a session, in fact it's satisfying

>>96017585
I'm the exact opposite of you. I burn out batch painting the same simple garbage over and over again, but if you give me big monster to slowly try new techniques on over a few months, I enjoy it so much more.

>>96017997
Holy shit. Just fucking use the damn thing and stop pussyfooting around.
Why do people in here have such an issue with trying things out or messing up and fixing mistakes? It's really not a big deal and it's near impossible to mess things up in a way that you won't be able to fix it.
Experiment. It's fun.

>>96017997
Disassembling and cleaning the entire airbrush takes like 5-10 minutes. They're so simple it's pretty much impossible to fuck up the assembly, too. Stop being a dumbass and at least try priming with it. Airbrushing is not fucking quantum physics, anyone can do it

>>96018068
It’s just training wheels for now. I’ll upgrade soon enough.

>>96017933
yeah or prime by brush for free extra dollars

Speaking of priming by brush, does anyone have any experience on it? I use Vallejo black surface primer to prime with brush and it works just fine, but when I tried their grey surface primer it had awful coverage and forced me to do several layers, which is far too big of a timesink. It would be nice to have grey or white priming as an option, but I don't have the space to use airbrushes or rattlecans.

>>96018181
I tried using Vallejo, AK and GSW primers by brush, coverage is not a deal since they are supposed to just provide grip, not cover whatever is below. But I would frequently burry small depressed details so I gave up and went back to spray cans. However, when I discussed problem with actual wcale modellers, they use them just fine, especially Vallejo - straight from bottle, thin layers and don't give a shit about coverage. Guess it takes some practice to use properly.

Then again, the same guys insisted that Mr Hobby matte "top coat" can be safely applied with brush (even when overthinned with their leveling thinner) over acrylic paints (and yes, I clarified that they were talking about actual water based acrylics) without dissolving paint under it so either that was part of their elaborate trolling or I'm missing something crucial here.

>>96018181
>but I don't have the space to use airbrushes or rattlecans
you don't have outside?

>>96018181
the uneven coverage is only a problem if you plan on using contrasts, as long as you are going to have solid basecoats you are good with one layer of primer

>>96018266
Won't the uneven coverage cause the basecoat to also be uneven?

>>96014302
damn, sovl and kino

>>96018285
most colors will need more than layer to be uniform over black/gray primer anyways so it should not be a problem

>>96018266
I would say that contrast colors work better when they are applied over light base coat anyway.

>>96018586
yes but slapchop starts with a dark basecoat and can be done with a drubrushed white instead of sprayed

What's a good alternative to Russ Grey or Thousand Sons Blue that doesn't have shit coverage?

>>96018706
>Russ Grey OR Thousand Sons Blue
I feel like these colors aren't very similar tbdesu. Anyway, TTC Sentient Turquoise is pretty close to TSB and it covers nicely.

>>96018706
>>96018812
>Thousand Sons Blue
The difference between this and ultramarine blue being?

>>96018831
Ultramarine is a deep blue while TS blue is leaning into turquoise? I dunno

>>96018812
>I feel like these colors aren't very similar tbdesu

I know, I just need both.

>>95999059 (OP)
any site to download free 3d print models for minis?!

Good brushes are expensive but the cheap ones are so fucking bad holy shit.
Never buy the chinese crap in bulk when it comes to brushes.

>>96019183
yeggi

>>96019194
A good artist doesn't blame his tools.

>>96019226
Retarded post.

>>96019194
I know a few people who use cheap brushes for base coats. Makes the expensive brushes last longer.

>>96016959
I think GW adds all the fiddly bits to make the plastic models more easily breakable so that piggies will buy a second model because they can't into model repair.

>>96019319
go back

>>96019183
telegram

>>96019194
brush quality literally don't matter, it's all about technique.

>>96019183
yes Mr. Workshop, this person right here

>>96019404
I bet $100 this anon doesn't paint above tabletop quality

>>96019424
does it matter?

>>96019466
are you clinically retarded?

>>96019466
>doesn't deny it
reminder these are the people you are arguing with here

>>96019513
>>96019470
You should not forget that tabletop standard is all that matters here. Its /tg/. We paint to play games.

>>96019547
(You)

>>96019404
Contrarian nonsense.

>>96019547
Post a picture of a game you played in the last month

>>96019404
Retard.

Was in /3dpg/ and saw pic related
Are glass nano files applicable for metal and resin/3D print resin sanding?

If not then what's a good diamond file grit number for metal?
I've mostly been working with hard plastic models but there are some metal models I am getting. I've just been using the back of the hobby knife to remove mouldlines.

>>96019226
The phrase is "A bad craftsman always blames his tools".
Part of being a good craftsman is knowing what tools are adequate for the task at hand.

>>96019424
>>96019577
>>96019603
Remember like two months ago when anon posted his mecha nose art pinups then showed off his dollar store synthetic trash brushes when another anon asked what kind of brushes he used to do that detail?

>>96019647
>>96019642

>>96019647
>anon posted his mecha nose art pinups
You mean the craftsperg (you) and his bulge ladies?

If you are too scared of "fucking up" a model cuz its expensive by airbrushing badly then start with painting your bases. You can thin your paint enough that clogs are almost impossible, spiderwebbing from the thinned paint isn't an issue due to texture, overspray doesn't matter when you switch colors, impossible to fuck up. Do 30 bases and you will feel a lot more confident in the airbrush

>>96019647
Oh right lmao I should've realised sooner it's you again. Does the fact that I use Raphael brushes, own the Redgrass lamp, GSW mdf racks and like Duncan's paints trigger you a lot?

>>96019647
Took me awhile, found it
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95036731/#95048629

>>96019661
>>96019691
paranoid schizophrenia is abnormally common on this board, like exponentially more than is normal in the greater population.

>>96019707
You should at least try to make it a little less obvious next time, now fuck off

>>96019728
Your barking u the wrong tree, I couldn't give a shit what you spend on your hobbying, just because I remember a fucking comment chain of note doesn't make me your goddamned bogeyman obsession.

>>96019194
What chinese brush?

/40kg/ has once again successfully buckbroken /wip/ into mass hysteria.
Thank you for playing.

>>96019707
>craftsperg is still here
>still seething
>still samefagging

>>96019640
It’s good on big flat surface

>>96019747
>mass hysteria
In case you don't realize we're just making fun of you

>>96019707
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95036731/#95048629

Damn, I unironically feel a bit bad for him, at that samefagging

>>96019781
You're not one to talk on that subject.

>>96019774
Him, me or the other guy?
>>96019747
/btg/ this time.

>>96019793
Elaborate.

Can someone tldr this argument for me? What the fuck is going on

>>96019745
You know the ones.

>>96019810
Tldr: Autism.
It's best to just ignore it, do something else and hope the thread becomes usable later on.

after i finally tried contrast paints i lost something previously so precious to me
i always liked painting overall and appreciated the process, now i take shortcuts at every turn and just dont care just because it is possible

>>96019810
Resident shitposter is sperging out, this time about brushes because he's been btfo'd on everything else he tried so far.

>>96019806
A monkey can remove (you)s in paint, your picture proves nothing.

>>96019640
>but there are some metal models I am getting. I've just been using the back of the hobby knife to remove mouldlines.

This is where I would recommend getting one of the specific mouldline scraper tools. The older GW one was overpriced but absolutely solid and I love mine. The new GW scraper is waaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive, but Vallejo sells a copy of the older style GW one.

I'd just be afraid of the hobby knife blade digging into some part of the metal model, snapping off and flying into my eyeball. That's why I like the mouldline scraper, it's a pretty solid block of metal that I can apply with a fair amount of force without breaking anything.

>>96019810
Resident shitposter has been assblasted for basically the past 6 months because another shitposter likes craft paint and synthetic trash burshes, shitoster A now starts raving about shitposter B any time someone mentions something that A even vaguely construes as possibly being from or about B
I'll take B over A because B actually posts painted minis even if B has some extreme opinions on paints.

>>96019829
Okay, stay seething as usual, craftsperg

>>96019841
t. craftsperg

I'm working on another Exalted Sorcerer

>>96019873
Sexy.
I finished my sorcerer termi tonight, still basing his familiar.

>>96019806
>>96019851
>>96019871

>>96019896
A monkey can remove (you)s in paint, your picture proves nothing.

>>96019896
All me

>>96019935
You're the one who first dropped a picture like it was anything of value, so unless your opinion is now that your own arguments are invalid, you can suck my hairy sweaty balls.

>>96019940
Fuck you! I am the fucking!

>>96019935
kek

are craft paint anon enjoyers the same who love to argue about different paint brands everyday all the time
i mean there has to be some correlation between these obsessions

>>96020067
There is only one craft paint anon, and that's the craftsperg himself.

>>96020067
Insofar as that they are opposite ends of one spectrum.
>only the finest specific pigments in precise ratios to premium mediums
vs.
>any modern pigment in acrylic medium is superior to even the elite mixes of a century ago, give me what's cheap

Blue went out messy this time, even more under phone and had to constantly fight with rapidly drying paint, even wet palette (baking) paper was rather dry.

I feel like a shit.

>>96020067
I really don't care what people use to paint as long as they're not being assholes about their choice. The only reason this thread shits on craftsperg is because he was acting high and mighty with mediocre results. That and he's highly likely the person derailing the thread when someone mentions hobby products

What's the absolute minimum you guys recommend for an airbrush setup? $200? $300? Even more than that?

>>96020176
>with mediocre results
That's being very kind.

>>96016963
I'd like to add that putting a rest time after the build plate has gone back down and before light on will improve surface quality. It gives the resin time to settle back in. Usually .5 to 1 second is plenty but I imagine it also depends on the cross section sizes you're dealing with.

>>96020229
Once you factor in thinner, flow improver (really reommend), iso to clean etc. $200 is the ballpark. Depends on the compressor since you can get a decent starter brush in the master g233 for $40ish.

>>96020266
Also some kind of airbrush stand, even one on the compressor. Being able to put the brush down without it tipping over so you can use both hands for mixing and cleaning is a huge quality of life improvement.

>>96020275
These things are pretty handy

>>96020176
He was pissing on contrast paints specifically, not being egotistical about his results.

>>96020229
~80-100$ decent non-chinesium beginner airbrush
~80-100$ basic bitch chinesium proper compressor with tank
then add another ~100 on top for supplies

>>96020286
Nigga he literally said he considers his minis a step below Golden Demon.

what is the point of these and why so many people use them outside of youtube too
not trying to drum up any drama or siderail the thread im asking honestly

i have never had any need for this thing before, and after it was released im still perfectly able to hold my mini between my fingers

>>96020330
youve got reading comprehension problems
>nigga
i guess im stating the obvious though

>>96020342
Chill out, craftsperg.

>>96020335
I find it's more comfortable to use this instead of holding the mini in your hand, that's about it

Trying to fix some metal ogres i had laying around. Made a champion out of an old spare Nork Deddog.

Can't find the old mordheim ogre backpack so maybe i can try to get the old giant wine barrel on his back? Or should i try something else?

>>96020396
a barrel is fine too
if i remember right mordheim mercenary ogre had a straw basket backpack with halfling hands sticking out from it

Sculpting a character for a pal that just got into Conquest. So I'm giving this dwarf a new axe and a flaming beard/hair. Saw someone sculpting beards in layers that I'm trying out myself now. First the neckbeard and then the cheeks/chin. The hair being fire makes it a lot easier since the waves in it are thicker then hair, very forgiving

>>96019835
>hobby knife blade digging into some part of the metal model, snapping off and flying into my eyeball.
I wear safety glasses for this fear.

Any idea about some sort of tests I could run to determine if baking paper of choice is okay for wet palette? Every single one I see at shops, various shops from different companies, always, ALWAYS have double coated. I got three and placed each above small box and added puddle of water on each to see if it would sink down but each was dry under after an hour. I really don't want to buy expensive wet palette paper.

Oh and so called "sandwich" or "breakfast" paper would all break down under water due to lacking any sort of coat.

>>96020286
>He was pissing on contrast paints specifically,

ah yes that makes him so smart and likeable now

>>96020624
What you should be looking for is parchment paper, not baking or waxed paper.

>>96020351
I wonder if your lover is even here.

Any anons 30+ with kids and very little free time? How do you do it?
I'm spending months painting a Malifaux crew and I've a 40k army collecting dust semi-assembled.

>>96020670
>have kids they say
>they are incredible they say
>uh, I can't even paint a single crew, what now

>>96020670
I just stop feeding and talking to my children so I have more money and time for the hobby.

>>96020647
Only product named "parchment paper" I found was at art store and cost 3-4 times more than wet palette paper.

>>96020670
Wait till they move out, turn their room into a hobby space.

>>96020677
I wouldn't trade it but I'm tired and stressed all the time and I still have desires that don't really work when your free time starts at 8:30pm at night.

>>96020629
Anon having strong unpopular opinions contrary to my own but who also posts models is much more likeable than some obsessed asshole who makes false claims and posts no models.

>>96019640
>what's a good diamond file grit number for metal?
Does it really matter when filing down resin or metal or do the grits have to be different depending on the material?

>>96020670
I usually paint after the kids go to sleep between 8:30 and 10:30 p.m. I take it slow, bit by bit, but I make steady progress. I’m 31, married, with two kids, and I work as a teacher.

>>96020624
>>96020647
ive been doing that since around 2009 because back then it became trendy to germinate seedlings on top of parchment paper
so why not paint
along the years most problems anons have had with this method is there is no parchment paper sold in their countries until few years ago someone had the bright idea to capitalize it and start selling paper to hobbyists

>>96020699
I also use my hobby as a way to relax.

>>96020746
>Saga
I don't know what those things are made with, but they're the only paper I've used in my oven that has just caught fire for no reason. Threw the whole roll away immediately and bought the same old stuff I've been using for ages.

>>96020670
after kiddo is in bed. I also like to sign up for leagues and events where I can manage it. I find nothing moves me more than a hard deadline

>>96020771
atleast youre paint didnt get moldy, i remember someone complained how their wet palette started growing mold because they kept it shut in a warm place for few weeks
imagine that, i cant even fathom how long the user manual for that commercial wet palette must be

>>96020711
Try that shit in /40kg/ or something, faggot. Everyone here probably posted models at some point because there's no reason to be here otherwise. Nobody is going to post his stuff and identify himself at the request of a confirmed schizo shitposter
Also the issue was not with contrast paints, you can stop trying to gaslight the thread. He claimed he can get the same result by glazing craft paint but picrel is what it looked like. Then he melted when people called his subpar paintjob for what it was after he called it "above tabletop ready". That's only what we know for sure was him, I'm sure he derailed the thread many more times. So on the off chance you're not him you should stop defending a literal sperg and a shitposter.

>>96020711
What the fuck are you talking about, why are you replying to me

>>96020858
the "above tabletop ready" mini in question

>>96020858
>there's no reason to be here otherwise
Newfag.

do you know that feeling when some days you really really really dont feel like painting but you do it anyway
i did it anyway

>>96020959
Even when I don't feel like painting if I convince myself to pick up a brush I get into it almost instantly.

>>96020866
The best part is that craftsperg called this thing a tier below Golden Demon standard.

>>96020977
That's not was said

>>96020804
That's a really nice looking squat, anon.
It's pretty much Votann and Malifaux keeping me in the hobby. I can't give up when space dorfs are finally back.

>>96020998
Yes you did, craftsperg.

>>96020977
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95631823/#q95637542
Fuck you for making me look it up, hyperbolic obsessed sperg.
>better than many do with hobby grade tools.
Take your meds, post models, quit yer bitchin, touch grass.

>>96020959
Yeah, man. It feels like it's all about making it a habit.
I have to tell myself it's OK just to sit down and paint literally a hat, that's all. If I do any extra, that's a bonus, often it's more but it doesn't have to be.

Pretty much I never actually feel like painting.

>>96020977
youre the fucking sperg here craftanon made one rant on one topic in one thread but youve been shitting up the general for months!

>>96020866
-sigh-
>unzips

>>96021089
I've told you already you need to make it less obvious

>>96021115
On behalf of the entire general; take your meds and get a life.

>>96021089
What’s the difference between sand schizo and craft sperg?

>>96021159
None, they're both aspects of your Multiple Personalities Disorder.

>>96020746
So how well does that brand work in a wet palette in your opinion? It's what I use, but I'm new to wet palettes so I have no point of comparison to any other brands.

>>96021115
and you like many others have been encouraging him for almost a year now

New thread:

>>96021179
>>96021179
>>96021179

>>96021185
>a year
The craftanons first posts were about 6 months ago?

>>96021195
not going to lie it feels like it started somewhere around last fall at this point

>>96021213
The first I can remember is the aforementioned pinup nose art posts, and those only in retrospect when someone compared his paint bottles from a months later picture to the response to another anon asking about the brushes used for them.

>>96021224
i dont really care
if someone was to bring him up for no reason again would be himself samefagging or some parasocial anon obsessed with him siderailing every thread

>>96021267
>some parasocial anon obsessed with him siderailing every thread
Yeah that'd be the sperg ITT who's been going on like this for months.

>>96021165
Sand schizo was a retard who couldn’t find sand in his area. He ranted and raved about it but I don’t think he ever tried to buttress a superiority complex over others in these threads.
He also chilled out and laughs at his past autism.

>>96021304
I think I remember posts of that nature, never attributed an identity to that poster based on it though, I thought this was a reference to the other poster sperg goes on and on about, the one who hates GSW product and also product from some other company.