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Thread Question: Tell me about your OC Jedi anons! I want to know all about them!

>>96000369
It doesn't matter how much they push the Empire being evil. I'll do games where players are helping the Empire, and the New Republic is portrayed as hapless corrupt crime lords always on the brink of collapse.

Long live the Empire.

Here is Luke Skywalker, humble oppressed farm boy, hunted by the Empire for being the child of a Jedi! Luke discovered the force, joined the Rebellion and destroyed the ultimate evil! Join the Rebellion, the Jedi and the Force are with us!

>>96004349 (OP)
>Thread Question: Tell me about your OC Jedi anons! I want to know all about them!
I've not played a Jedi in tabletop yet but these are my twins from SWTOR. Both raised on a Togruta colony world Kiros and discovered there, although a bit older than normal however more Jedi were needed due to the return of the Sith Empire.
>Left
Soren Tem - Jedi Knight, single bladed blue lightsaber. More pragmatic Jedi mix of Qui-Gon and Anakin.
>Right
Sora Tem - Jedi Shadow, double bladed blue lightsaber. Scholar and one who worked to enhance her understanding of the force.

>shaak ti clones
Yeah because it's a based design.

>>96004349 (OP)
Who is the double bladed green lightsaber woman, the blue care bear and the green one at the back? Guessing high republic because of the gold robes.

Also Cal is better with a yellow lightsaber. Suits him best in my opinion

>>96004446
>pragmatic mix of qui-gon and anakin
So he's qui gon but occasionally murders people?

>>96004452
Why do people like Cal, genuinley curious. Guy seems super bland to me, unless the second game somehow makes him interesting and not a Luke knockoff with his little R2 knockoff and shady pilot friend knockoff.

>>96004466
Yeah pretty much. Only those who do not back down after being warned. He's got too much shit to do.
>>96004485
Same reason people liked Kyle. You can live out s Star Wars adventure with him. Yeah he's another order 66 survivor, but it goes into his ptsd, trauma, regrets failures more in depth and how he's overcoming them with his new group of friends/family. Plus nightsister gf

>>96004349 (OP)
Kek! That image XD

>>96004697
Heh, doggo.

>>96004512
>Same reason people liked Kyle.
Kyle is pretty much the opposite of bland. He's an 80s, over-the-top action hero with an asian waifu that he needs to rescue.

>>96004729
Which is only fresh feeling now, in the context of two decades of popular media rejecting and subverting those tropes. When the first Dark Forces game came out the 80's were only five fucking years previous, most game and movie heroes were still 80's, OTT, action-driven, and had cute waifu's in distress. Kyle was the definition of bland and mainstream(Which Is A Good Thing incidentally; sometimes a normal person might want molecular gastronomy, but 99% of the time you want fucking pizza and there's nothing wrong with that).

>>96004349 (OP)
>Tell me about your OC Jedi
He's convinced the reason the Jedi failed was because they were too weak, if they had properly focused on the current state of the galaxy, acted more like warriors than sages, they could have beaten the clones and the CIS. So, he searches for Jedi survivors to improve their skills and readiness until he feels they're ready for the current state of the galaxy.

>>96004822
Sounds like he's a dark jedi, or about to be one

>>96005020
Some Jedi - like Windu - tow the line with that stuff, but if they still value the sanctity of life they probably won't fall. Probably.

>>96004452
The Carebear is from the literal toddler cartoon show set in the High Republic. I'm guessing the woman is as well, but probably from one of the books

>>96004349 (OP)
I dont like this OP image, it feels like this shit

>>96004349 (OP)
Archar Perletrader is a Bokken Jedi, traveling the galaxy trying to do good during the reign of the Empire. He's earnest, optimistic, idealistic to a fault and tries to see the good in people, even when it’s hidden under layers of trauma or cynicism—especially in his best friend, and possible love interest, Thalia.

Despite the life he leads and the company he keeps, he struggles with the moral weight of violence, often trying to talk opponents down or avoid lethal force even during fights.

He has almost no means of connecting the dogma of the Jedi Order; he's more concerned with the idealism of the Jedi. Every teacher and influence he's had in the Force has been at least one step removed from the Jedi, if not part of a separate Force tradition completely. Academics, Jensaarai, Sith, Imperial Hand(s), a former Republic pilot, a Hutt fanboy, etc...

The campaign ended earlier this year, but as a character he was a blast to play. I put away all of my edgy inclinations and just tried my best to be a good, heroic guy. The rest of my play group is awesome, so they definitely contributed to the fun, too. But, damn, it was great to just get out there and try to save the day.

Here's a bounty poster I made from the early days of the campaign

anyone have the image of vader force choking all those women

I've been away from the franchise for about a decade now.
Is it true they essentially made Ahsoka the main character of the Star Wars?

>>96004349 (OP)
From the most recent campaign I was in:

He's a haggered old drunk who dropped out over a woman a couple years before the clone wars, though the marriage lasted about three years as you would expect from a sixteen year old. he was mistakenly listed as dead well before the purge began and bounced around the outer rim as a barfly who surfaced as a freighter crewman, salvage worker and occasional import/exporter in the better years.
he's a self-deprecating but not self-pitying mess, and the plan was that he'd gradually eithther chose to try and do something decent by joining up with the rebels, if that was the way the campaign went, or else just try to deal with the various absolute shitbags of the outer rim when he could.
The lightsaber was a variable-length, yellow, which he disguised in the casing of a plasma cutter, but he usually carried around a pair of cheap slugthrowers (slug guns because they are legal more places, two because that way he can still hit stuff when he's seeing double)

>>96006676
It's getting there

>>96006676
She’s basically the immortal avatar of the light side of the force, so yes.

>>96006764
I feel like this will be the nail in the star wars coffin for me lads if Filoni actually pulls this shit.

>>96006861
It’s happening. The owl which is the symbol of the daughter is in the ahsoka show and next season looks like it will be with the mortis gods. It’s over.

>>96006676
>>96006764
>>96006861
>Is it true they essentially made Ahsoka the main character of the Star Wars?
Nope. She's just a part of the cast. Luke is still the supreme main character.

>>96006877
People are getting fed up with Ahsoka being made so important by Filoni and its so transparent surely they won't do it. Imagine going from convincing George to let her survive order 66 to making her the fucking embodiment of the force.

>>96006883
>Luke is still the main character
yeah…

>>96006883
>Luke is still the supreme main character
I'm not sure this was true anymore when we got the prequels where everything started becoming very Vader centric.
Sure Luke became very powerful in Legends but his Dad was the chosen one who destroyed the Sith.

>>96006861
he will either make her a force goddess or she will become a force ghost

>>96006933
>his Dad was the chosen one who destroyed the Sith.
By throwing an old man down a shaft, he was primarily saving his son shit was just a side bonus. God the chosen one prophecy is so stupid.

>>96004349 (OP)
>OP image
Every time they try to use Luke to validate and legitimise their corporate fanfic all they do is remind me of its innate, inherent, everlasting inferiority.

>>96006923
non-cannon dark timeline

>>96006923
Don't worry, there is still Luuke for them to use.

>>96005020
Jedi Gunnery Sgt Hartman would never do something as disgraceful as fall, he's too busy weeding out all no hackers who don't pack the gear to serve in his beloved Order. Now show me your Clone War face!

F

>>96007854
F

>>96007854
Intensify Forward Firepower

>>96004366
>Long live the Empire.
Was the Empire's lifeblood essentially the good will of the people helping it believing that it is a good force and trying to do good then said good people go rebel when finding out the truth?

I now want a T-shirt with a tribute to all the Imperial martyrs who died in the Ghorman insurgency.

>>96007854
Rest in peace.

>>96007955
All it takes for an organisation to be good is for good people doing good things to be part of it. Structure, doctrine or dogma doesn't matter.

Lucas had it wrong when he made Palatine Satan. The original idea of him being a figurehead of the system was much better.

>>96004366
>Long live the Empire.
>posts the republic(forma corruptione)

>>96008373
The Empire rejects the weakness of the Old Republic and the mysticism of the Sith.

>>96007348
Luuuuuke is better in all ways.

>>96004349 (OP)
>TQ
Surprisingly I've only had one Jedi character over the years.
Twi'lek, name was Maru Salaer. Padawan, never got the chance to see him knighted in the community I played him in. Soresu practitioner with a saberstaff.
Had incredible natural affinity for starfighter piloting, Force shenanigans allowed him to pull off feats that were insane for an individual of his relative inexperience.
Mother was a former indentured servant out of Hutt space that barely managed to claw herself and her children onto a Republic colony after years of effort. Gave him up the moment the Jedi detected him because she wanted a better life than she could ever possibly provide for him.
Pic rel was a comm I got of him. Fun character to write for, shame the group I was apart of shit the bed hard early into messing with him.

>>96008373
Based Trve Empire chad.

>>96004366
>Long live the Empire.
An amusing motto for what may be the shortest-lived polity in galactic history. Even the hopelessly weak and unstable New Republic lasted a few years longer than the Empire.

>>96008373
>posts Galactic Empire at home
I just love how a SITH Empire decided to use a REPUBLIC title for no reason other than
>member the Galactic Empire
Post the real Sith Empire at least anon

>>96007854
Piett, I once posted the same image back in /tv/ - /co/ Star Wars generals.

>>96005020
Chances are he will go Dark in the third game, and Merrin has to get him back.

>>96009223
>Disney canon
sorry I don't subscribe to fanfiction.

>>96000668
thank you anon

>the nightsisters are zabraks despite looking nothing like zabraks because....
>well because the males are and I said so okay!!!
nothing official says this?
popular misconception?

>>96012151
they share no similarities to zabraks, I dont know why people think they are

>>96012151
I suspect that if there was some official source, someone would have mentioned it on wookiepedia. Instead Ventress (and by extension the other white-skinned nightsisters) is referred to as a human/zabrak hybrid, and most nightsisters as humans.

>>96012151
>lightsaber bow and arrows
Now I've seen everything.

>>96012174
thats the thing, wookieepedia says so (without a clearly defined piece of text or whatever to confirm it), but the databank does not

I think its just some logic of "the males are, therefor the females must be too" even though theres nothing that says the females are (plus we have stuff like a twi-lek having a human kid already)

>>96012175
They don't bother me that much because energy weapons isn't something uncommon in Star Wars. THIS however, is far worse.

>>96012196
>>96012151
They Nightsisters can't be female Zabraks, because the same show depicted a female Zabrak and she looked just like the males.

>>96010476
>>Disney canon
Prequels finished off the Empire by making it dictatorship-stage of Republic.
Disney just finished it with First Order and Andor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbmN9jy5_Z0

>>96012151
Nightsisters are still sadomasochist space witches riding monsters into battle and nothing George did will change that!

>>96012196
>>96012329
I just assumed they were an offshoot/rare subspecies like Rutian Twi'leks or Arkanian Offshoots. They are Zabraks without horns.

>>96012352
So diet Dark Eldar

>>96012352
I still don't understand why they've bothered with magic stuff, which doesn't mesh with the Force

>>96012343
That's always what the Empire was. Even in the early drafts of the story that the novelization of the first film was based on Palpatine was the first emperor, so it at most lasted the lifetime of one person. The main difference between the timeline established by the prequels and the previous EU stuff was whether the Empire lasted 20 years or 50.

>>96012376
50 is bigger than 20

>>96012374
The Force is magic though. It's just less flashy which is why Nightsister magick is so jarring.

>>96004349 (OP)
Why was there never a general Force-user supremacist faction? The Sith are only interested in making the Sith rule the galaxy, but that's just a small section of all the Force users.

>>96012381
I've only watched few episodes of the Clone Wars, but didn't Talzin create Maul's cybernetics with magic? You can't do that with the Force

>>96012384
The One Sith were sort of like that. I believe everyone in that organisation was force sensitive, even the grunts.

>>96012381
>The Force is magic though.
I agree. But Lucas and prequeltards pushed hard to relate Force with certain philosophy and Night Sister magic wreacks this concept badly, because turns out you can still practice slavery, physical and mental torture etc and still have Force healing and immortality.

>>96012387
>You can't do that with the Force
You can't do it with the Force as a Jedi. Most of the force usage we've seen has been from Jedi who do the most basic stuff like telekinesis. With the nightsisters though, it's now been revealed that they have come from a different galaxy so that could be the reason why their force use/magick is so different and weird.

>>96012394
That's down to inconsistency and bad writing. Stuff like force healing/resurrection and time travel should not have been introduced as it causes issues. Why didn't Anakin just kiss Padme back to life again like Kylo Ren did?

>>96012427
>Why didn't Anakin just kiss Padme back to life again like Kylo Ren did?
Because Obi-Wan took her to Polis Massa, while Anakin was picked by Sheev.

>>96012396
Well, I guess my only answer is: I don't like it. The Force should be about bending laws of physics, bit like psionics, not full scale D&D style magic

>>96012435
>The Force should be about bending laws of physics, bit like psionics, not full scale D&D style magic
Even then the whole philosophy behind it (doesn't matter Lucas or Disney canon) is still borring and less developed than elemental bending from Avatar

I like nightsister magic but it should be more mystical than physical

treat it like actual magic (healing, lightning, enchantment etc) not "it can literally do fucking everything"

>>96012469
>not "it can literally do fucking everything"
The bit that made me audibly groan with it was when somehow Merrin was able to make Cal's ship invisible. Never seen force shit work like that before and it took me out.

>>96012501
Luke did something like that in the EU. The Fallanasi were a group of Force-users that specialized in using the Force to create illusions and affect minds (Jedi can also use Force to affect minds, but it's not the main focus of their training). Luke trained with them to learn their methods, and later used it to create an illusionary effect to cloak a ship. Though maintaining it was supposed to be extremely difficult and left him exhausted.

Why didn’t Obi-Wan join the Muunilinst 10 and capture the Muun bankers and take out Durge early on before the heavy casualties the Republic suffers because Durge went out and lead his lancer battalion?

Battle of Muunilinst is non-canon and did not take place.

>>96012501
ehhhhh we saw it make people invisible in TCW so i'll allow it

>>96004697
Tbqh. Idea of party having to survive by working for Empire sounds interesting.
However, Empire itself sucks. Unlike Remnants.

>>96012387
bitch, you can use the force to trigger fucking supernovae. you can use the force to weld 500 million screaming retards into a fucking elite, lethally disciplined armada. you fucking disneyfaggot.

>>96012151
Just assume that this applies to only this particular group of Nightsisters, while any other group of Witches of Dathromir would be breeding with whatever humans and near-humans they can get hands on, and it's from them that different groups of Nightsisters (Witches exiled for Dark Side usage, sometimes grouping into Nightsister Clans) would stem from.

>>96012387
>didn't Talzin create Maul's cybernetics with magic?
No. His legs were created out of battledroid parts that were lying around after Grievous' attack. She used magic to piece those battledroid parts together into functioning legs.

>>96012780
Except we saw them drinking potions to become sort of invisible. Nothing like what Fallen Order showed. Merrin is absolutely pants on head retarded powercreep, and anything Talzin did pales in comparison to the absolute Force Unleashed tier bullshit Merrin can do, like what we've seen in Survivor at Jedha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfgp1n7K-Fo

>>96012222
I'm more than just okay with the Inquisitors having spinning sabers, I think that shit's cool. But the idea that it can generate lift and let them fly is so astoundingly retarded I cannot fathom how it ever made it into the finished product.

>>96012427
The only reason this scene happened is because pedoDisney needed to get rid of the last good white man in the galaxy, don't look too much into it.

>>96014432
>last good white man
>Darth Tantrum

>>96014964
>Darth Tantrum
Not anymore.
He returned to the light side with the help of Palpatine's 4/10 virgin grandaughter implying that she would have sex with him if he dedicated himself to the light.

>>96015131
>Daisy
>4/10

>>96012151
The nightsisters are proto-girlboss nonsense and Filoni needs to let them die above everything else he necromances

>>96012343
EPIC REBEL videos aren't going to make me hate the Empire lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZSUdB-u_-8

>>96015179
You're right he's being far too generous, she's a 3/10 on her best day.

>>96007854
F, Admiral.

>>96015179
>>96015941
I'm sure she's probably a 9/10 in Innsmouth, but in the outside world her fish-like proportions make her a 2.5/10 at best.

>all new sequel movies
>also all new prequel movies
Would you take that deal? Is no more Padme and Clones worth no First Order and Rey?

>>96013463
>Jedha
She teleports, heals some walls, helps Cal grab a big robot together as equals, made some smoke whips to hold troopers down, and gave him a charm to teleport dash.
What there is on par with pulling a Star Destroyer down from orbit?

>>96017470
Oh fuck yes.
Prequels have always been hot garbage.

Why did the Death Star even have his trench?

>>96017640
Heat... management...

Are there two species native to Ryloth? Men having human ears and women having cones is one thing, but this guy has one less finger and one extra brain tentacle. That's beyond simple cartilage shape.

>>96017680
Could just be a genetic mutation similar to how some people have an extra finger or toe. I remember as well in old legends that he’s a fat fuck and that his extra lekku is a sign of good luck or something amongst twileks but his is actually just fat.

>>96017640
intentionally constructed wrong, as a joke

>>96017680
Don't know what's up with the missing finger, but they can have anywhere between 1-4 lekku. Two is just the average. Having more is often associated with higher intellect.

>>96004452

My query is why there's a fucking owl randomly in that picture.

>>96017741
It's Ahsoka's force owl see>>96006764
>>96006877

>>96004729
Cal's a modern, over-the-top action hero with an Russian waifu that he needs to rescue.

>>96005766
>ewoks have blue hair and pronouns in the high republic

>>96004452
Probably the MC of the High Republic novels or The Acolyte.

>>96004452
Right now I don't associate him with anything temple guard-y. He went out of his way to smash a holocron and lose knowledge to stop the empire from getting it. His struggles with the dark side and learning some nightsister magicks make me picture him with a purple/magenta saber. Ultimately, all the Canon promotional art of him uses basic ass blue. They couldn't even switch to green for the Survivor promos to show a change in color after he gets his own Kyber.

>>96017756
>Cal's a modern action hero
Correct, but modern action heroes are of the boring Jon Snow archetype where they try to make them humble and down to Earth. Its incredibly boring
>over-the-top
That defines an era that's no longer present in writing ever since Millennials took over, who have somehow proven to be even worse than Gen X. Because millennials all self-insert as Scott Pilgrim, and when you break it down, that's who Cal is.
>Russian waifu that he needs to rescue
You mean the one that cucked him with a lesbian? lol, just because game dialogue doesn't establish it doesn't mean it didn't happen

>>96007138
>>96006861
>>96006764
I don't think I can put into words of how much I would hate this
I hate this hat wearing wolf obsessed piece of shit

>>96017872
look at it this way
if it happens, ahsoka will be hated as a character due to being ruined, and filoni will permanently be hated for ruining her

its a win-win
it either doesnt happen (which is good) or it does happen and you get people agreeing with your opinions

>>96017834
>You mean the one that cucked him with a lesbian? lol, just because game dialogue doesn't establish it doesn't mean it didn't happen
wasn't the author pissed that they instantly reversed her decision?

>>96006883
As a younger fan, I have never given a shit about Luke. I grew up loving Anakin and pals in the clone wars show. Luke has, like, a comic, a video game by EA, and the mandalorian cameo. Disney doesn't use Luke for anything. He hasn't been an important character once in my entire life. Luke is a gulp shitto in the Darth Vader trilogy, that I'm surprised was popular enough to make it into the sequel trilogy.

>>96017887
I mean, it was basically always secondary canon. She said herself "I have no idea why I am being trusted with this huge franchise." Nothing in Survivor contradicts the book, because the book was written around the game. I wouldn't be surprised if they avoid explicitly contradicting it, but also sweep it entirely under the rug and never mention it again.

>>96017891
I grew up with the prequels and you are just a tasteless faggot.
>>96017877
The sequels still exist and get shitty content even though almost everyone hates them.

>>96017897
>>96017887
Doesn't really change the fact that Cal's waifu cucked him with a woman lmao.

>>96017925
Do they though? The sequel shows take place before and seem to go out of their way to avoid talking about them. The closest is Mando hinting at force cloning and Luke's order. Is it really sequel content if it's more about the fallout of the OT instead of setting up the ST?

>>96012343
Nah. Remnants (unless they are meme antagonist like Zsinj) breaks canon as well.
Although in a different manner

>>96010476
Yet you do, this is a thread for fanfic. TTRPGs are fanfic machines.

>>96017981
that guy doesn't actually play TTRPGs, this is just a stop on his youtube outrage machine tour

>>96017930
They clearly reacted to the backlash against the sequels by adopting a Boiling Frog strategy. When they saw S1 & 2 of Mando take off they obviously planned to make a bunch of shows that would mostly focus on "aftermath of OT" content but slowly dripfeed in Disney trilogy references so eventually people would have enough positive associations with DT stuff to override their negative view of the trilogy itself.

Their problem was forgetting to make the rest of their slate of shows *good*.

>>96017930
Yeah, they seem to be actively avoiding doing stuff directly related to the sequels. Most of the new stuff has been either about the period shortly after the OT, or in the books and comics about the the High Republic period, hundreds of years before the films. Closest we've gotten is some stuff that retroactively set up Palpatine somehow returning.
There's the rumored Rey move that's probably never going to come out and some upcoming novel taking place after the sequels, but mostly the writers have been avoiding the sequel era or advancing the plot beyond it (which is a big contrast to the original EU, which was mostly about post-OT stuff or stories occurring concurrently with the prequels, with a relatively small amount of stories set during the Old Republic, mostly in games and comics).

>>96006877
Also notice how in Tales of the Jedi the name Ashoka uses when she's hiding as a farm worker is Ashla, which is the ancient Jedi word for the Light Side.

>>96017692
The old canon was that fat twi'leik often grow extra head-tails, which aren't true lekku because they lack the muscle and neural tissue and are basically just filled with fatty tissue. Though some sources state that twi'leik are sometimes born with 4 lekku instead of 2 (it's probably a recessive genetic trait, like red skin).
I assume 4 fingers is just an animation error, though humans are sometimes born with a mutation that alters the amount of fingers or toes so the same is probably true for twi'leik as well.

>>96018045
Ashla was Ahsoka's original production name in 2005 before George changed it to Ahsoka. Ashla was also the name of the Togruta youngling in Attack of the Clones. They originally played with the idea of retconning her into being Ahsoka, but the youngling in AOTC was too young for it to work.

What were the Shock Troopers thinking when they saw a burned Anakin on the lava bed?

Why do you guys love Fordo?

>>96018294
>what a fucking loser
>>96018338
Badass

>>96017928
You mean she came back to taste his midichlorians ASAP

Do you think Merrin and Kata will get lightsabers in the next game?

>>96017760
He's not an Ewok, he's an entirely separate diminutive bear species called a Pooba, though it seems they can get bigger

so apparently the maul tv show is being written by matt minchovetz
so it MIGHT actually be good, he's one of the better lucasfilm writers

seen someone say that theres gonna be "a ton of returning characters" which I guess makes sense but no idea if they're just pulling shit out their ass

>>96019697
>a ton of returning characters
Pursuing nostalgiaslop is why we have shit like Kenobi and Ahsoka

>>96019855
I would expect it's more "heres a bunch of relevant contexual characters like all these bounty hunters you know"

>>96019697
Mother Talzin (again)

>>96019697
Old news, ventressfag. Sam Witwer said all of it way back at Celebration right after announcement months ago.

Let's hope v*ntress isn't in it. Or if she is, let's hope Maul offs her for good.

>>96019697
>More lightsaber sloppa
Andor is the last and only decent Star Wars you'll get besides the OT

>>96020043
>blandor
>good
>putting it in the same sentence with the OT, as if they have anything in common
*yawn*
Reddit is the other way.

>>96020061
People who fellate Andor are retards. The show is okay. It's not incredible, its not the best tv show ever made. It isnt evem the best made for TV Star Wars production

>>96018544

Sentient space weasels are a thing in Star Wars aren't they? Isn't there a front cover to a Han Solo novel with him having a fistfight with one?

>>96020006
>i'm miserable and everyone else needs to be

>>96019697
Are they doing Darth Talon thing? Because I'm here for it

>>96020498
Kinda. But she's fully clothed and probably gonna be flat, since it's the current year.

>>96020555
Eh, I'll take it, my boy Maul deserves an apprentice

>>96012460
Lucas force is spiritualism, which is good actually. The force is a mystery cult tied to a Whitman oversoul.

>>96020069
What is the best then? And know that if you say TCW I will find you IRL and fill all of your home and vehicle ACs with the rotting fishslop used to make Garum.

>>96021091
Yes, TCW is easily the best and most expansive Star Wars show that has ever been made and no show like it will ever be made again. No other show matches the sheer scale, ambition and variety Lucas put out. And it actually looks and feels like Star Wars. Unlike a bunch of boring humans with UK accents larping in the woods with AK-rifles and talking about le rape.

>>96017750
>It's Ahsoka's force owl
You know what, fuck Star Wars

>>96019429
Merrin maybe. I am pretty sure they will make her playable.
OTOH, she has used a dagger and quarterstaff in the 2nd game, so she doesn't really need a lightsaber.

>>96020555
>flat
There is always bacta.

Any of you guys got that edit of palpatine getting head from one of his royal guards while he's screaming? I used to have it saved but I think I deleted it a while ago. I need some shit posty images for a game I'm going to run in the future.

>>96021746
We still deliver.

>>96020061
>NOOOO NOT PEOPLE TALKING TO EACH OTHER WHERE ARE THE LIGHTSABERS I CAN'T CLAP IF GLUP SHITTO DOESN'T SHOW UP WITH HIS LIGHTSABER

>>96020596
>my boy Maul deserves an apprentice
why

>>96020240
I think they were space-otters, not weasels.

>>96022629
otters are just wet weasels

>>96012222
>>96014282
All things can be accomplished through the force. You think he cannot fly, but he is light with the force.

>>96022120
I want it

>>96021804
Kino

>>96004366
I dont think a Dark Side Theocracy is the best form of space government, their tendency to encourage and nurture Dark Side growth works against strategic thinking, ability and state stability (compare to say Light Side leaning polities). But Dark Grettings Anon

*ahem*

grey jedi.

>>96024073
more like GAY jedi

>>96024151
oBI-wang
anakin GAYwalker

>>96023957
The Empire has nothing to do with the Dark Side.

What do you think the force unleashed dark side ending timeline is like? Would it make a good campaign setting?

>>96024162
>oBI-wang

>>96024535
I guess it's just a coincidence that the Empire is led by a Sith emperor who wears Sith robes, and the second in command is also a Sith, and when the Sith emperor is killed, the remnant devotes all their resources to resurrecting him instead of just having a succession plan like a normal secular military junta would.

>>96024716
these are the sex eyes

>>96024535
>and now the sith shall rule the galaxy

>>96024682
Well, Luke being turned by Starkiller is neat I guess. Starkiller and Luke overthrow sheev, then at some point Luke overthrows Starkiller. I guess its not that neat since its just what if Luke joined Vader.

>>96024718
>>96024963
No one cares about Disney fan fiction.

>>96024986
>posts Slopgacy fanfiction
lol
lmao even

>>96024986
It's from revenge of the sith you fucking retard

Im going to be honest. I think ARC troopers look way cooler then clone commandos and thier fat bloated check armor.

Regardless, I wish both had some kind of equiptment to boast thier base abilities like an exo-frame or chemical stimulent or something. I feel like clones never deviate all that far from base troopers.

anyone have the webm/vid of the aotc behind the scenes geonosia arena fight with all the jedi? Where its just the blue screen and they have to act like they are fighting

>>96025134
fuck yeah thanks

>>96012381
Didn't Filoni say magic is "cool and separate from the Force"?

>>96025274
That's what Lucas told him back in the day.

>Filoni revealed that, "According to George, they're not necessarily force users – they're something else. They have different powers than Sith or Jedi."

>Dave Filoni: They’re not Sith. They’re not Jedi. According to George, they don’t use the Force. They have a magic all their own. If you remember one of the first Nightsisters was Charal from Ewoks: The Battle for Endor. Charal was a witch on Endor who used a type of magic that wasn’t the Force.

This, obviously, only applies to Lucas's Star Wars world. Who knows what's been done in a bunch of other shit since Disney took over.

>>96025338
it's still "the force" it's just a different way of using it

think of the nightsisters as wizards and the jedi are sorcerors
they can cast the same spells, but wizards need their book whereas sorcerors can cast it naturally
(which you kinda see as nightsister magic generally needs rituals, components and/or incantations, like proper sith sorcery)

>>96025752
also what makes ventress unique among them, sure all the nightsisters can use magic, but the genetic lottery still applies and she's the only one who won it

will add however, I dont think nightsister magic is shown to do something like a force push but I could be wrong, like it can do entirely different things to natual force wielding, but cant do the same things like a force push

>>96024535
It was intentionally created as an evil retarded oppressive regime by a foreskin Emperor-Sorrcer to help secure his power base as de jure God Emperor in the end of the Clone Wars and keep a steady Galactic Scale production of Dark Side energy for wizard shit going. Or Palpatine as God Emperor instead of creating a good healthy civilisation to ensure no rebellion against him for a million billion years, he had all of his brain cells fried during his Windu duel and became Emperor Retardus of the BBEG Empire.

>>96025752
>it's still "the force" it's just a different way of using it
False. It clearly it isn't, since Lucas explicitly said it wasn't, and Talzin explicitly said she wasn't a Force-user. Nightsister magic was very tangible, easily observable and identifiable by looking like a green mist/energy. It was all illusionary, archaic, and required tangible physical components to conduct.

>>96025810
>sure all the nightsisters can use magic
Also false. Not what we'd seen in Clone Wars at all. We only saw some of them participating in rituals that Talzin conducted, but nothing indicated that they possessed any power on their own. As shown in the actual show, there were very few actual Nightsisters with actual powers, such as Talzin or old Daka.

By the way, I don't give a shit about a bunch of supplementary third party lore written after the fact or that wasn't in the show where these particular Nightsisters originated - none of that matters.

>>96025884
what about merrin? morgan?

>>96025864
nice headcanon

>>96025983
>By the way, I don't give a shit about a bunch of supplementary third party lore written after the fact or that wasn't in the show where these particular Nightsisters originated - none of that matters.

>>96019212
copium

>>96026101
address it.

>>96026162
Whatever you need to call it, it is what happened.

>>96021151
I warned you. You can soon look forward to constantly experiencing a scent akin to a rotting carcass hauled out of a canal. Indefinitely - it actually impregnates all the plastics and fabrics so it never goes away.

>>96025884
Lucas is a fucking senile retard though. Almost every take he has had over the years that wasn't actually committed to film has either been retarded, or was later contradicted with retardation.

He made some decent movies, but I will never understand this cultish worship of the turkey-necked old fucker.

>>96021151
>Star Wars is lightsabers and clones
GenZ truly doomed this franchise.

>>96027298
The absence of competent tard-wranglers ruined the prequels

>>96027319
>>Star Wars is lightsabers and clones
Star Wars is a swashbuckling Saturday matinee serial adventure for families, with mythological and spiritual undertones, filled with exotic, funky aliens with racial accents, bounty hunters, pirates, scoundrels, princesses, funny robots, good and evil wizards with laser swords, soldiers, epic ground/space battles, duels, exotic otherworldly locations, with some political themes and messages conveyed in an entertaining manner. It is fast, it is charming, it is humorous, it is fun, it is colorful, it is sincere, it is hopeful and optimistic, it is the opposite of cynical. Andor is none of that. It is the antithesis of Star Wars in virtually every way. It is made by and for people who despise and/or embarrassed of Star Wars. I mean, it's no surprise: Tony Gilroy said as much. He doesn't really like it. Bitter Gen X faggots are the ones who truly doomed this franchise. Lost their shit ever since Ewoks, and can't shut the fuck up ever since. Gen X idea of Star Wars is pic related. And it is awful.

>>96027508
Han Solo is infinitely better, more memorable and more entertaining character than anyone in Andor. Any of his lines is better and more iconic than any of the pretentious, tedious, tryhard 15 minutes monologues in that show.

>>96027523
So I'll put you down for more JarJar stepping in eopie shit, Glupanon

>>96027495
>Gen X idea of Star Wars is pic related. And it is awful.
Horrible prop, yes.
But as a story it is so far ahead of the endless shity clone slop that words can barely even describe it.

>>96027495
I hate the blind worship of Andor, but it's been far better than absolute slop like Ahsoka.

Andor fans are fucking obnoxious, but this doesn't change the fact that it's probably the best piece of Star Wars media since the Mortis Arc in TCW.

>>96027495
>>96027523

This is a level of bait i thought was extinct

>>96027590
Nah, its story is fucking shit, and its characters are all shit.

>>96027634
Ahsoka was bad - no one really said otherwise. But just because one thing is bad in a different way, doesn't mean the other bad thing is suddenly good. Andor is better than shit like Ahsoka, Book of Boba Fett, Obi-Wan and Acolyte on a technical level, sure. But that does not make Andor good Star Wars. In and of itself is is just a fairly okay sci-fi television show. I don't even think it's better than Battlestar Galactica or Expanse. It is just okay, some good moments. But it is a terrible Star Wars show. It is so fundamentally divorced from the rest of the setting visually, tonally, stylistically, aesthetically, thematically. And the original argument was that: some retard saying that it's the best Star Wars show. It's not. I can concede it being the best live-action Star Wars show on technical merits, but even then it is full of shitty, low effort, ugly props, terrible costumes, and ugly ass, bland aliens. Where did the $600,000,000 go?
>but this doesn't change the fact that it's probably the best piece of Star Wars media since the Mortis Arc in TCW.
Nah. Not even close.
Rest of TCW, a few moments in Rebels, Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor, Tales of the Jedi, some of Mandalorian, even Skeleton Crew - all shit on that dry, bland, dull, ugly crap, as far as being great Star Wars goes.

>>96027709
>I don't even think it's better than Battlestar Galactica

>pic related; it's you

>>96027709
>Rebels
Absolute dogshit, the only good parts were in relation to the Mortis mythos from TCW. Thrawn's inclusion was alright. But the whole of the Rebels cast is boring.
>Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor
Yeah I sure do love another gormless protagonists with no balls to play as and get beaten up.
>Mandalorian
Easily only Season 1. One trick pony.
>Skeleton Crew
This was actually good up until the last episode where in traditional Disney Star Wars fashion, they make the pirate guy into like an irredeemable cartoon caricature villain.

>>96027809
I mean, I specifically said *A FEW MOMENTS* in Rebels. Rebels is utter dogshit, I agree. But there were a *few* good moments that were good and captured the spirit of Star Wars, and those moments, ironically, are not related to the OCs of the show, but rather legacy characters, lol.
>Yeah I sure do love another gormless protagonists with no balls to play as and get beaten up.
Cal is fine. Better than Cassian Andor. And Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor as a Star Wars story, the setting it represented, the feel it conveyed, was infinitely more Star Wars than that generic BBC drama crap.
>Easily only Season 1.
Indeed. I said some of Mandalorian. Also that one Mandalorian episode from Book of Boba Fett, where he was on the Halo ring world.
> they make the pirate guy into like an irredeemable cartoon caricature villain.
Dunno, I was glad they did not redeem him. I am tired of villains getting redeemed. They gave Jod some humanity, but they did not redeem him and reverse the entire narrative out of the blue. That was good, actually.

>>96027709
>It is so fundamentally divorced from the rest of the setting visually, tonally, stylistically, aesthetically, thematically.
Andor really is the ultimate litmus test for who is and who isn't a retard who only cares about lightsabers- if all the Empire scenes didn't scream original Imperials to you you're absolutely one of those retards who fast forwarded through the talking parts as a 10 year old sperg.
The only thing Andor did was expand on the image of the Empire already presented and add a different perspective on the rebels really- all the spy shit that got encapsulated as 'some guys died to bring us this info.' Both of these things it succeeded in spades pretty successfully.

>>96027985
>suddenly the Empire and the entirety of Coruscant looks like Kamino out of the blue
Thanks for proving my point that this slop and people making it did not understand the assignment. Fuck off to /tv/, fag.

Everything outside of the OT and concepts introduced in EU books are gay additions to Star Wars, and should be properly ignored.

>>96028064
Unbelievably Based

>Captcha: My Ads

>>96028064
>concepts introduced in EU books

>>96027634
Season 1 Mandalorian is the only good Star Wars content we've had since Revenge of the Sith, and Return of the Jedi since.

>>96012427
He didn't have any points in Force Hewl

>>96004349 (OP)
>TQ because fuck thread derailers
Honestly, my one Jedi OC started off as my first PC.
Smol Bothan youngling struggling with being a Jedi who had the misfortune of existing in 19BBY in the vicinity of Clones.

Ended up shooting down a Venator and killing like 20,000 people, pretty much scarring her to the point she was the only one who wasn't falling to the dark side actively out of the Jedi PCs. After that the game got weird because the GM was being burnt out by the autistic screeching surrounding TLJ and wanted less and less to do with Star Wars on top of some group drama until it eventually folded.

I do have her cameo in other games I run from time to time, in one iteration she's an ace pilot supporting the Rebellion who actually spends most of her time hunting down an ancient Sith Cult, partially because Jedi staying around rebels too long leads to Inquisitors/Vader/Other Jedi Hunters murderhoboing the normal dudes.

And in the other iteration she's a full on Padawan fighting in the Clone Wars who's closing in on being one of the top aces in the order and is probably going to be knighted once I'm done with my hiatus on that game.

>Thread Question: Tell me about your OC Jedi anons! I want to know all about them!

You could not beat that information out of me, cop

>>96028102
...what do YOU think the Clone Wars were really about? Not fucking stormtroopers, JEDI

I love the separatists, its a damn shame that they never got really any development or point of view in TCW and were just portrayed as villains

glad tales and bad batch gives them some nuance and reasoning

>>96004349 (OP)
>TQ
I remember having my own super-special OC Jedi when i were a wee lad, but i think we all did. Generally these days, if i play a Jedi it's usual based on the context of the RP but a few i enjoyed playing:
>(A Space-Pirate RP) Rodian Force User who was sold into a pirate crew when very young and managed to train himself to use The Force.
>(Someone's Skeleton Crew inspired session) A young Selkath who has always naturally been able to use The Force, but lives in fear that the evil Jedi or Sith are going to learn he is Force Sensitive and are gonna kidnap him.
>(Clone Wars RP) Jawa Master with his Wookiee Padawan. A firm believer that Lightsabers are great for combat and all, but frankly, an AT-TE works way better.

>>96027495
RotJ is my second-favourite OT movie(after ANH, because it's a complete story in a way the others aren't), Ewoks are fucking cool, and Andor is good. If you love shoving people in boxes so much, stick yourself in a freezer and have yourself thrown in the fucking ocean where the rest of us don't have to suffer you anymore.

>>96028055
>NOOO IT CANT BE WHITE WITH A BLACK TABLE IT HAS TO BE GREY WITH A BLACK TABLE
That's called worldbuilding, retard. The similarities to the navy shit while having its own distinct vibe is how you establish different branches of military. Not to mention I'm pretty sure you definitely didn't watch the show now when I was referring to the content of the Imperial scenes and how every character is classic Empire

>>96028356
Heroes, as in "exceptional individuals with great power". Not heroes as in morally justified. CISssies were always just villains, from their inception. Movement would not exist without the Sith. Movement would not exist without the greedy, evil corporations de-facto creating and banking it. Movement started with a bunch of them trying to annex a planet and putting its people and native population into camps and starving them, while cooperating with the Sith. Your noble Count Dooku, aka "political idealist, not a murderer", orchestrated a terrorist attack on Coruscant in an attempt to kill Padme, killed multiple innocent people, was in on Sidious' plan since the beginning, knowing full well that CISsies were never meant to win, and that they were nothing but disposable pawns. CISssies are as bad as "Empire did nothing wrong" fags. CISsies on Raxus were just a bunch of delusional retards high on propaganda and copium, completely oblivious to what they are actually doing. CISsies on the frontlines were evil maniacs, like Grievous and Ventress. Trying to portray secessionists and traitors, who break the symbiotic circle, leave and do nothing to actually improve the system, as some kind of misunderstood heroes is pathetically retarded. There is a reason why CISsies have zero representation in the Rebellion. All the notable Rebel figures are ex-Republic senators, like Bail Organa and Mon Mothma, all friends of the Jedi, all use "May the Force be With You", and the first ever Rebel, Saw Gerrera, hated CISsies more than anything. And the Rebellion was an Alliance to restore the Republic.

>>96028476
Tony Gilroy drops Santiago Calatrava architecture into the Coruscant landscape even though it's completely at odds with the aesthetic of the planet. Whereas Lucas organically incorporated Calatrava-inspired architecture into the design of Utapau, where it reflects the unique qualities of the world.

What Gilroy does here doesn't even require any vision. He's just photographing the work of one of the most well-known living architects and jarringly inserting it into an environment others before him had to actually design.

He's not only unable to conceptualize environments that rise anywhere close to the standard set by Lucas, he actively degrades the few environments he inherits, because he doesn't understand what goes into it.

It feels like the prequel Coruscant exists as one of those distant backgrounds in a video game that you can never travel to.

>>96028552
This is true even for the locations that are set directly in the midst of the cityscape. Even given the opportunity for window views, Gilroy's tendency is to fog or obscure the alien cityscape where Lucas always opts for expansive fantasy vistas.That Gilroy has to set these scenes on Coruscant seems like an inconvenience to him that he tries to find ways to work around. I don't know what else people would expect. What do you think it means when he says he never liked Star Wars? You think he hadn't seen it? It isn't his thing.

>>96028538
the evil parts were the sith, shadow council and military

the actual politicans and citizens were decent people who believed in a justifiable cause

>>96028564
Why do the hallways of the Senate Building in Andor suddenly look like the interiors on Kamino? At most you'd expect the intrusion of Imperial motifs. The answer is that Gilroy is drawing on the aesthetic of the new exterior architecture, but the design language is confused.

You can see the palette of the Senate chamber itself seems to have been adjusted to match. It has a strangely bright, aquatic feel to it now. I'm not sure why the transition to Empire transformed the capitol into King Triton's court.

>>96028570
Nah, they were a bunch of gullible, clueless retards. Which is why these idiots have left zero footprint on the Galaxy.

>>96028538
>exceptional individuals with great power
Yeah i'm sure George 'it's like poetry, it rhymes' Lucas definitely meant it that way.

>>96028578
t. republicfag

>>96028552
>>96028564
>>96028574
Lot of autism to say you're too stupid understand visual language or why one would present the same setting differently.
Back to /tv/ with you.

I’m running a space station campaign soon. It’ll take place between TPM and AoTC, with an ancient hyperspace beacon being activated on accident by vagrants and squatters aboard the station, that opens up travel into and out of the Deep Core.
It’ll be in Corellian space so the party, who will start as Republic/Jedi/Corellian officers (knight level), will have to juggle politics between CorSec/The Diktat, the Republic, crime lords, and the Trade Federation.
Does this lend itself more to a narrative story, more like a homebrew adventure book, or a more traditional episodic RPG story?
I have a great plot (this is rare for me to believe about most things I create) whipped up with prequel politics and shady backrooms business but also the exploratory/drama aspects are appealing. But I’m a forever GM so I don’t know what players would want, I already asked mine which and they said they trust me to make it good either way and they can see liking either of them, which makes sense since I’ve been GMing them for the past 8 years.

>>96028552
Of course the Core Founders alley would be demolished. They're a reminder of the Old Republic, and the Empire wipes away any and all traces of the Old Republic, as they rightfully should. The Core-Rim division is irrelevant to the new Empire, only their status in the Empire matters, and in some cases, the Core is much more treacherous than the Rim.

Were I in charge, I'd go further. Execute any officer that still wants to command a Venator, just blow up the ship with himself in it still. Death Star, or if that's not available, planetary bombard the shit out of Chandrila, Alderaan, Caamas, Corellia. Melt down any statues, reminders of the Old Republic into giant Imperial symbols.

>>96027495
What generic post-apocalyptic Netflix/Syfy show is that picture from?

>>96028278
B-But muh Stormtrooper clones!!!

Reading Yoda Dark Rendezvous rn.

Tried reading some of the Darth Vader comic but when I saw the inquisitors showed up in issue 3 I just couldn’t. They are so fucking cringe.

>>96030056
Interesting, I never knew the stormtroopers were originally envisioned as clones. I've seen plenty of people call them clones, but I thought that was just people assuming the OT stormtroopers were just PT clone troopers in new armor (which canonically they were shortly after the prequels, but the clones were replaced by regular humans as they were retired).

>>96030232
I like the Inquisitors because you can't have just Vader or muggles hunting down the hundreds of jedi that survived Order 66.
They are also weak enough to not violate the Rule of Two.

>>96030528
They need to be strong enough to believably have killed a bunch of Jedi, they can't even take out Ezra and the GRAND inquisitor jobs to fucking Kanan

>>96030537
>>96030528
Honestly if they showed the inquistors taking down a few jedi knights or a master or two by showing them working as a team it would have done a lot for them.

It's funny because as a team in shatterpoint they are super good now and are the counter-pick for Jedi lists.

>>96030537
Especially Grand Inquisitor, who still fights with skill, and was a Jedi Temple Guard before.
Then there was Prosset Dibs, 10th Brother, who in a comic got shot down by Purge Trooper Clones after a Jedi mind-tricked them into Executing Order 66.

Dark Disciple came out a decade ago today

will lucasfilm do anything in regards to this information?
probably not. but hoping they announce they're finishing the episodes as a miniseries

>>96030925
No Ventressfag, no one cares about some comics and books from 2015

>>96030537
>>96030549
They made the inquisitors job so much that whenever they do get to beat someone, instead of appearing strong it just makes the other character appear weak because they got their ass kicked by the fucking inquisitors. See Ventress almost losing a fight the one in Tales of the Underworld. Instead of people thinking "this guy is serious business if he can go toe to toe with Ventress and almost win", the common sentiment was "they made Ventress weak since she almost lost to one of these clowns".

>>96030931
lucasfilm at least gives a shit about it

>>96030947
>the common sentiment was "they made Ventress weak since she almost lost to one of these clowns".
and even then the argument of "she was rusty/distracted/etc, that's why she was weak" is made

>>96031004
>>96030947
It doesn't help that Ahsoka shreds one to pieces in under a minute around the same time frame when she has also not done anything since the prequels

>>96030947
Are you on drugs? V*ntress is dead.

>>96030232
Disney-era comics are nothing to write home about, except Son of Dathomir and Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith. There are some interesting runs here and there, like that Maul comic or Rise of Kylo Ren, maybe Mace Windu and Jango Fett comics if you feel generous. The rest is just bland and unengaging, it barely tries out new characters, and when it does, it's your usual girlboss fare, see Doctor Aphra and Sana Starros

>>96031285
she got resurrected last year anon

>>96031816
I don't consume shitty fanfiction, sorry.

>>96031873
Again with this? Hell, Ventriss herself is a fanfic original.

Would you fuck either of these two?

>>96007550
They say he's haunting Massassi Temple to this day, yelling at Exar Kun and the Vong Invaders

>>96028552
>>96028564
>>96028574
>Why evil emperor bulldoze old architecture to put up homogenous ugly minimalistic designs?
Idk anon, it really is a head scratcher what they're trying to convey with that imagery

>>96028570
Bait or retardation?

>>96032617
if thats the case then every faction is evil

>>96032728
You're so close to getting it.

>>96024682
Kind of weird this timeline implied that Dark Apprentice killed Luke on Hoth, when Vader is still alive.

>>96033517
the alt timeline in the first game was better

how's this argument sound?

>stormtrooper armour and TK trooper armour were both developed and deployed at the same time to test the suits to see which one was better, with stormtrooper armour winning
explains why we see stormtrooper armour and TK trooper armour both existing in 18BBY

>>96032594
Is it because it is an evil Sith wizard leading the evil Galactic Empire

>>96027985
Andor is fundamentally incompatible with the core theme of Star Wars, and it has nothing to do with lightsabers. The climax of the story of the films is Luke's recognition that he and his father are essentially the same, with only the slightest hair's breadth dividing them, and Vader realising the same thing is what spurs his own redemption.

Andor is antithetical to this. The character himself exists in stark opposition to everything Lucas was saying in the films, as is the case for everyone in the Rebellion. Rather than a sign of corruption, Andor can murder people in cold blood, Luthen can allow good people to die, because they're sacrificing their own morality for a higher cause. They stain their hands and damn themselves, and it's heroic because they're fighting for the future - When a major message of the films is to always be mindful of the present, rather than do everything for a future that doesn't exist.

And just look at Syril. Of everyone, he comes the closest to the core theme, of recognizing that he and the people he's labled as evil may in fact be one and the same, but at the very moment of that realization he just dies like a dog, not the slightest catharsis, actualization, or atonement. It would be like if Luke just cut off Vader's head, and never found out that the two were father and son.

Andor is an absolute betrayal.

>>96033652
How's this argument sound?
>TK Troopers existed for 2 weeks after ROTS

>>96033722
So many words, all of them wrong and misssing the point.

>>96033774
>404: Argument Not Found

>>96033652
This argument is pretty dogshit, ventressfag. Just your shoddy attempt at doing the thinking and legwork for the hacks at Lucasfilm, for some reason. The answer is simple: Disney canon is retarded and sucks balls, Bad Batch was a terrible show and a mistake, and TK-armor is ugly as sin, and it exists for no other reason but McQuarrie cargocult. There is a reason why that abomination was discarded in the 70's.

they are about to have sex again

>>96033867
Any transitional armor between Phase 2 and Stormtrooper makes about as much sense as trans rights, and belongs in the same place, into the trash. Phase 2 IS the transitional armor. The neo-EU just replaced the old EU's ship bloat with armor bloat. Its mind-numbingly dumb.

>>96033742
no because we see TK troopers still being used chronologically after we see stormtroopers

>>96033867
>i'm miserable all the time and everyone else needs to be

>>96033722
This has to be one of the stupidest fucking andor and star wars analysis I've read

>>96034106
I think it might be filonifag

>>96013146
And that was retarded too.

>>96030056
Still the best stormtrooper lore.

>>96034065
>i am eating shit all the time and everyone else needs to know about it
>nooo, stop telling me I am eating shit!

>>96034321
Wrong, Filoni is an abject retard.
>still no argument

>>96034410
>want to make a discussion
>sperges out over it
god forbid star wars is discussed in the star wars general

>>96033652
Works for me. I can't really think of a peacetime equivalent of this approach off the top of my head, but plenty of wartime innovations come about by a similar process.
>we need X today, our boys are getting killed out there!
>have two prototypes for what will ultimately be produced as X
>send both out in limited quantities to see which is better
>the better one gets approved and becomes standardized as X

>>96004349 (OP)
I made a Sith blade master who exclusively use Cortosis vibroblades/axe because he wanted the blood of Jedi on his face

>>96034948
I also dont think that TK trooper armour has been stated to be the progenitor to stormtrooper armour, however the helmet at least is from a cancelled phase 3 clone armour project

could also be that TK troopers were only limited to people part of project war-mantle, with stormtroopers being part of everything else

>>96033722
Han Solo is fundamentally incompatible with the core theme of Star Wars, and it has nothing to do with lightsabers. The climax of the story of the films is Luke's recognition that he and his father are essentially the same, with only the slightest hair's breadth dividing them, and Vader realising the same thing is what spurs his own redemption.

Han Solo is antithetical to this. The character himself exists in stark opposition to everything Lucas was saying in the films, as is the case for everyone in the Rebellion. Rather than a sign of corruption, Han can murder people in cold blood, Chewbacca can tear off people's arms, because they're sacrificing their own morality for a higher cause. He stains his hands and damn himself, and it's heroic because he's fighting for the future - When a major message of the films is to always be mindful of the present, rather than do everything for a future that doesn't exist.

And just look at Chewbacca. Of everyone, he comes the closest to the core theme, of recognizing that he and the people that have labeled him as a savage alien may in fact be one and the same, but at the very moment of that realization he just mauls Imperials like a dog, not the slightest catharsis, actualization, or atonement. It would be like if Luke just cut off Vader's head, and never found out that the two were father and son.

Han Solo is an absolute betrayal.

>>96035993
>Han can murder people in cold blood
nigga Greedo was about to kill him, it was self defense, also he was scum and deserved it

>>96026086
Its Head Copium to reconcile OT and PT Palpatine alongside EU shit but still leaves glaring holes in the connective tissue of the trio.

>>96035993
Well yeah that's why Lucas sperged out and keeps changing the shootout between him and Greedo

>>96036101
>it was self defense, also he was scum and deserved it
True of everyone Andor kills btw

Thoughts?

>>96004349 (OP)
What is a good way to run a Commander Cody legion list?

>>96033722
>Andor is fundamentally incompatible with the core theme of Star Wars
That's kinda the entire point of Andor. That violent resistance against authoritarian regimes is usually done by people with minimal morals and those same necessary violent individuals, or the ones who survive, are often time put aside if victory is ever achieved.

The quote of "The problem with making a Star Wars show for adults is that Star Wars fans will watch it."

>>96030056
Sup anon?

>>96036953
Pretty good Rise of the Empire-era battlegroup

>>96037254
>The quote of "The problem with making a Star Wars show for adults is that Star Wars fans will watch it."
Translation: if you're not an amoral cynical doomerfaggot like me, you're not really an adult.

Most instances of "violent resistance" have been failures, or immediately led to failures as the psychopaths involved tried to govern. Successful resistance has almost always been the result of either full-scale war(which can and should be fought in a principled way), or extensive and widespread nonviolent civil disobedience campaigns.

This kind of "you need a bad guy to beat a bad guy" mentality is the same horseshit that's used to justify spending gajillions on spies who're only necessary because everyone's spending gajillions on spies. Would be much easier to just spend mere bajillions on spy-hunting, but then the psychopaths who want to be spies wouldn't be able to justify themselves anymore.

>>96038651
I'm glad faggots like you are on your way out from entertainment. Heil Trump, and I hope he launches nuclear warheads on those churkas in Iran.

There has never been a successful resistance, ever. The Rebel Alliance never lost, the Empire just beat itself to a point where the Rebellion was able to take over an exhausted Galaxy.

>>96038675
you are acting like he isn't a retarded rightoid just like you

>>96038694
I'm a Nazi.

>>96038651
>amoral cynical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQd4JdFP0d0

>>96038723
So either rightoid, or down syndrome

>>96038651
>immediately led to failures as the psychopaths involved tried to govern
More often, the psychopaths murdered the reasonable leader and failed to govern, see Yat-sen.

>>96038675
>There has never been a successful resistance, ever.
>Civil Rights Movement, the only successful one of it's kind in recorded history, says hello

>>96038675
>There has never been a successful resistance, ever.

>>96038651
>Translation: if you're not an amoral cynical doomerfaggot like me, you're not really an adult.
More that you are horribly media illiterate if you think Andor doing all of those things is not intentional.

> full-scale war(which can and should be fought in a principled way)
Name one full-scale war that was fought in a principled way.

>>96038651
Astonishing level of manchild brain syndrome

>>96031925
Yes

maybe I should piss off filonifag

What Star Wars helmet design is your favorite? I really like Phase I ARF

>>96039713
Two things can be true.

>>96035993
Unironically what >>96036298 said, that's exactly why Lucas was autistic about changing the cantina scene, because he thought that Han shooting Greedo dead without being attacked first was morally at odds with the main theme. You chose a "nou" that the author explicitly tried to retcon, thus proving the original point.

>>96038651
You're right, in the sense that in the context of the universe that is also exactly true of Andor. Everyone involved lived and died for a Rebellion that devolved into incompetence and corruption as soon as it took power, and ultimately was obliterated, leaving the galaxy in anarchy.

Nihil theme is "really big Raid values".

(These are the only Nihil cards, don't go thinking you can make a Nihil theme deck, the developers hate fun.)

>>96041134
Phase one clone trooper. Even before I properly watched the Star Wars movies as a kid I preferred the clone trooper designs to stormtroopers. I can’t really put my finger on why except maybe preferences.

>>96041134
This one storm commando helmet from one shot is Rogue Squadron III is probably my favorite. Otherwise, probably standard scout teooper helmets or classic Fett mando helmets with a few choice gubbins.

>>96041134
4-way tossup between phase 1 clone, phase 2 clone, Sandtrooper and Rebel pilot

>>96033722
The main problem of Andor isn’t being tonally antithetical to Star Wars, it’s being that and… not very good for the trouble, really.

>>96042547
It is pretty good. The best written of the TV shows by far, at the very least.

>>96041134
I see you are a man of integrity, just like me.

>>96039713
Heh hehe. Fuck Nazis, fuck Hitler and fuck Drumpf.

>>96041134
They look cute. What goes through their minds?

she should become an actress or singer in-universe

>>96042733
No, and no.

>>96038651
I largely enjoyed the show but I can see why some people don't like it.
It is certainly cynical in it's striving for a semi-realistic portrayal of an Insurgency. I'd like to see more "ground level" kinda stuff from Star Wars but I certainly don't want it to become the standard.

Star Wars is by it's nature supposed to be fairly optimistic and swashbuckling as a default but there is nothing wrong with exploring other ideas. I think a lot of people just like the idea of seeing the setting expanded on screen in a way it typically isn't.

>>96021974
you can have both, grounded drama, intrigue and a side of mysticism. they are not incompatible.

I miss kotor

How did Kaminoans handle Clone's puberty? Also, why didn't they just make Clone's asexual?

>>96043765
I think their soldier based programming made them have low sex drives, only activating in horny situations, like whenever Anakin's exotic teenage alien apprentice was around.

>>96044431
>>96044431
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