Thread 96004691

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>>95950174

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules for alternative wargames.
Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, OnePageRules,
Osprey, Para Bellum, TTCombat, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg


>TQ
What was your favourite new release this year so far?

>>96004691 (OP)
>What was your favourite new release this year so far?
The fat fuckin fart I just ripped lmao.

Apart from that the only thing I've been looking forward to is the Automatons from WGA, though they're yet to be up for sale in Ausfagland. I hope they also do a female variant for them like they've done with their other kits, maybe something that could be a hard plastic death cult assassin stand-in.

>TQ

I think it was this year, Guards of Traitor's Toll looks quite fun and unique, very narrative games with a hint of Pratchett to it.

Nice plastics too. Does feel like we're spoiled for choice these days compared to 20 years ago

>>96004691 (OP)

>TQ

Looking forward to stargrave automatons and more medieval victrix kits. Hardcore miniatures also released a full roster of DOOM STLs based on the original games, so that project is still possible, soon there'll be sipahi cavalry from WGA as well. Hard to choose a single favourite from all the good stuff that has been released this year. The problem is the looming lack of storage space for all of my models.

>>96004734
Seek help.

>>96004941
Why? I'll just wait for local stores to just sell the Automatons. It won't be long, and they'll be cheaper than shipping from America or UK or wherever even if I get the help of someone to ship a box over to me.

>TQ
It’s weird I honestly don’t give a shit about new releases. Maybe that OPR are getting plastic minis instead of 3d prints. I find 3d printing a bit too new wave for my old brain. Resin is smelly disgusting crap. Give me a sprue over that shit any day.

>>96004957

Plastic is much better to work with sure, but with resin you can do all sorts of niche genres and periods that wouldn't be economically viable in hard plastic.
Good news for OPR, I hope they'll be able to do more plastic stuff to escape the STL ghetto and take more space on store shelves. With that said, I find the opr style to be much too bland for me.

>>96005022
Metal is my favorite. Something about a nice hefty mini feels great.

>>96005022
They have some good minis in between hordes of meh ones. So I wouldn't mind some of their stuff in plastic either.

>TQ
Nothing so far. Maybe WGA will finally release their damned stuff.

>>96004740
Unfortunately the game turned out to be a pretty big let down, it plays extremely slow and feels more like a board game where you spend all game moving characters through automated actions with no player intervention

>>96004691 (OP)
So far?
Nothing. I don't trust WGA to actually release their warring state Chinese this year like they claimed they were gonna.

>>96005100

It's very strange that they've been working on them for years, but it always gets postponed. The teased lorica squamata Romans looked really good, not as crisp as victrix but all of them seemed to have greaves. The sprue layout also looked like they would be easier to kitbash and convert compared to victrix.

>>96005120
Just two weeks syndrome.

Warmaster general >>96004816 suggested me to ask this here
>>96004691 (OP)
I've been searching for a game to run games which are essentially rank and flank, but where you could have
>Formations of troops vs formations of troops
>Heroes vs heroes
>Sending heroes like a wrecking ball into an enemy formation, that they may not beat all by themselves but are able to keep them disorganised and busy so that you can get your formation to reach them and finish the job
And maybe also have the hero fight amongst an allied formation, enhancing its stats.
Kinda like Dynasty Warrior, or the more recent Fire Emblem
The idea was to use it to run the Illiad or other battles from the Homeric age, so mostly chariots and maybe a few elephants and the occasional weirder beast thrown in.
What would be the right system for that? I'm ok with having to homebrew a good bit, if only by restricting the use of some units, or using some armies as "equivalent of"

Anybody remember the name of the bounty hunting game from that the guy that makes all the weird miniatures from small toys?
There was a thread on it a while back, and I am sure I saved a PDF, but I can't find it.

>>96005243
Alien Zoology?

>>96005240
The original Chainmail by TSR might fit the bill. It's a historical (to start with) R&F game that allows you to add Hero and Superhero guys to your army who can run around on their own or join units.
>the Illiad or other battles from the Homeric age
I'm pretty sure that's one of the primary inspirations for the hero system, though technology-wise it's pitched more medieval.

For you Yanks, Khurasan's 28mm sci-fi range has some cool new bits

https://www.khurasanminiatures.com/28mm-dark-dominion.html

>>96005542

These look great but ZOG prevents me from buying them in the EU.

>>96005946
aw fuck. Is there a way around that? Shipping companies who could work as intermediates and wouldn't be too noisey about the what they are carrying.
Damnit these are toy soldiers, not machine guns, why is it so hard to even just import INDIVIDUAL SPRUES from the UK to the EU?

>>96006110

This is what he wrote on his page:

>EU customers, I am very sorry to say that I can no longer provide you my products, Changes in EU regulations no longer make it possible. I am sorry to see you go. I may be able to resume sales in 2025, after I evaluate whether I can comply with your laws. I will announce it if I can.

So does he need a middleman on the continent?

If I want a game with
>Mech combat
>Built around a solid combat system, which allows for a lot of tactics and variety
>That can accommodate whatever setting I have in mind
>say... if I want to run it in the Gunbuster universe, for example (mech vs alien space monsters, but without trying to specifically emulate an anime vibe)
What's my best bet?
Basically: a mech ttrpg or wargame built around a very solid combat system, but still with enough flexibility or moving parts to be able to represent a wide variety of settings.

>>96005243
Wanted: Reward CC 10,000
The maker, Tanner, is a fucking good dude. Won a kitbashing contest at a convention I was at, and was running a demo session of that same game. (Though I couldn't get in)

>>96006319
Tanner? Is he the same Tanner that made that tamagotchi-style pet raising game (TSPN was it's name iirc)?

>>96006319
>>96005243

Simpsom Miniatures or whatever his name is.

I don't want to be mean but like... I don't value the aesthetic of it all. I don't get it. Like it started out with various miniatures, and now it's all like really simple folk horror stuff with big heads. It's like it's in a feedback loop of itself. Very 28-coded.

>>96006409
Heaven forbid someone just has fun with sculpting instead of making Mainstream Market Product #74761

>>96006422

Not at all.

But even like compared to other 28 community type stuff it's even more... devolved I'd say. Like they've gone from some janky but cool looking bounty hunters I'd probably buy at a convention to "this is my fifth head on legs I use to play the 'zine game Grimdark Crab Simulator with"

Like I'm not sure how people like that would ever "go back" to painting a whole Warhammer Fantasy army. Look at Miscast slopping oil paints over everything.

(I'm not posting anything we're mutuals on Instagram lel)

>>96006409
>Very 28-coded
Well, he's literally part of that same friend group. They hang out. (And I attend their events when I can)
I see what you're saying, though. It's sort of a different thing entirely from painting "normal" Warhammermen or whatever. A distinct craft instead of being the same old hobby. 28-style stuff might work better for you when it has some more traditional grounding, a la Gardens Of Hecate etc.

>>96006849
>28-style stuff might work better for you when it has some more traditional grounding, a la Gardens Of Hecate etc.

Aye exactly lad, not being mean, just my observation, like it's even further than 28 goes, where sometimes you can't tell if something is actually painted well it's that oil washed and zenithaled.

I must have something of a traditionalist wargaming streak in me because like, when I see this kind of stuff from Miscast, I don't say "oh wow Trent that's eye-catching", I think "you lazy bastard, spent hours on kitbashing and then basically slopped shit on them rather than actually painting them"

Meanwhile Ana for example actually paints stuff and does it well.

>TQ
Technically not exactly this year, but the plastic boxes are, and the full rulebook is also coming soon: Quar.

>>96005100
>>96005120
Very weird since they have painted promotion art, I wonder if they have issues with the chariot kit.

>>96007142
Last word put out on the FB group was in February.

>>96007017
I've grown to really hate the Grimdark style. It used to be taking something normal and making it look dirty and weathered. Now it's all about slopping as much crap on there that it's not even appealing to look at. Some barely put any paint on to start with. They just go to oils, enamels, fx paints, feces, etc

>>96007202
Hopefully Quar will bring on the new age of colorfull whimsical kitbashes.

>28mag
Why are we talking about those losers, they're Warhammer and Warhammer inspired fags and don't belong in /awg/

>>96007202
I like it and I like the idea behind 28 stuff in general, it's just the execution could stand to start out with a basecoat a shade brighter.

One of the originators admitted he bought a bunch of Napoleonic stuff and didn't have the time or inclination to do it properly so he just sludged them up.

I can appreciate that it's an undertaking but man that just feels like a waste.

>>96008324
>Community built entirely around DIY models, lore, and rules is Warhammer
Literally incorrect. Only getting a (you) because it's genuinely funny to see you pop up here after you got told off on /wfg/. 28 reigns supreme.

>>96008449
You're a fan of sodomy, I get it

>>96008324
They're /awg/ related but have lost me in the second half.

>>96008324
So they made it politic? WHY CAN'T YANKS AND BONGS STOP POLITICING THINGS.

>>96006157
Mechastellar. Fan ruleset built around Gundam generally but expands out into things like Kaiju stuff and other mecha/gigantic beast. Still updated constantly.

>>96006319
Thank you, I was losing my mind digging through drives.
>>96005290
That one is cool too.

>>96008826
Is a good game or one of those artsy fartsy like Morkborg shit?

>>96008861
It's shit

>>96008861
It's game

>>96008324
are you that clown that was in /wfg/ shitting on anon's handpainted banners and chaos conversions just because it vaguely reminds you of these guys you spend your time hatestalking and posting about?
I wouldn't know 28mag was still a going concern if it wasn't for you seething about it

>>96008564
28Mag is not the "voice" of anything. Basically a group of artfags, being fags, decided to loudly fag things up. Since those guys are by and large the ones publishing 'zines (but not rules) and churning shit up on English-speaking social media, they steer a lot of the social media perception. Meanwhile, the people who just want to play Inquisitor and Inquisimunda (or TNT-munda/-quisitor) in 28mm largely ignore them and do their own shit. There's similar divisions among the Turnip, Sludge, and Trench Crud facets of the root-core branch. The most cancerous groups of people are currently camping in Trench Crusade discords and social media shitting everything up while the people who actually play games are ignoring them to get on with chucking dice. The only reason anyone discusses Sludge is because it's a good game, or they're butthurt the guy writing Turnip took 4 times as long to make his. Turnip mostly hit right in time to gather up all the Mordheim players that don't remember how much most of it sucked, and TC vacuumed off a lot of those too. Just to add a little extra backbiting. Either way the vast majority of people who put models to table with any of the above games have nothing to do with the online cancer ward.

More relevantly, we have a couple of those goblin rage merchants (and it genuinely doesn't matter if they're fags, false-fagging, or anti-fags) deliberately shitting up this thread pretty much constantly in an effort to keep people from playing or discussing games and torpedo the general like they've done with /hwg/ and /btg/. Report, ignore, paint some toy soldiers. It's fine to hate turnipgaming, muppets with rifles, OPR, or people who think sepia oil washes are magic get-out-of-painting free cards. For fuck's sake just don't shit on the walls and call it helping.

Anyone playing or played the second edition of dropfleet? I found the first edition very clunky and cant even find anyone local to play the newer edition.

>>96009000
What are you going to do about it, pussy boy?

>>96009155
so "yes" then

>>96008861
It's ok rules with some clever ideas and a dire need of a proper layout. More than enough to inspire some kitbashing of miniatures for tabletop wargames.

>>96009133
It's less clunky in some ways, has new issues in others. The ground combat is much simpler, which was the biggest source of complaints about over-complexity. It did eliminate one of the more interesting features (the strategy deck/activation system) in favor of simple alternating activation, which I find to be a big loss but makes things less intimidating with respect to list building and playing out a round for someone newer to the game.

It's got some inter-faction imbalance issues at the moment due to how they implemented some changes to the damage system, which in theory could be fixed up but it remains to be seen what happens the next time they do a balance pass.

I've got mixed opinions on all the changes big and small, but to spare you a pedantic list of complaints, overall it still scratches the itch for me of space combat/submarines in space/planetary invasion.

>>96009540
>creativity over conformity
>all of them look the same because they're all grimdark blanchitsu
This is why I don't have social media.

>>96009118
Pretty sure that minotaur is reaper but where is the dangling prisoner from?

>>96010322
It's also Reaper, it comes from the Tree of Despair set. I've got one painted up at home. The male victim's ropes line up with the two rings on the front there, but I remember the female victim not really fitting great. I only put the dude up anyway. Also comes with some nice vultures.

>>96004740
I’ve got guards built and I’m in the process of building a fuckload of citizens right now. REALLY love these two kits and the bits from each give you so many options. Really need to up my terrain game though.

>>96009118
Awful pose
Awful prose

>>96008324
Homomonth is over, stop posting your rainbow garbage you fag.

>>96009118
>Mordheim players that don't remember how much most of it sucked
1) Mordhiem was an excellent game with rich detail and a brilliant campaign system.
2)Turdnip is nothing like Mordhiem in the slightest, it's a tactically barren age of basedmar knockoff
3) I've played both and can confidently say that Mordhiem is amazing fun, especially when in a campaign, and Turdnip is a genuinely flat, bland, and boring game that feels more like an art project with rules slapped on.

>>96011290
>implies that Sludge doesn't predate Turnip
>implies that the Last War doesn't predate Trench Crusade

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Treated properly it's just a gallery of inspiring people's weird little guys with the parts they had left over. I don't interact with many people online but I almost wish I did because it keeps the pressure on to get a few bits done.

The first game of these was by the Relicblade guy. Not really sure how the #28 crew managed to make "painting with heavy washes and weathering" and "kitbashing Breughelesque ImagiNations" entirely theirs...

So it seems for sludge...

>>96011329
That a lot of the streaking grime

>>96011331
Was a bit overstated, or came later

>>96011290
I more meant
>people nostalgic for Mordheim
than
>Mordheim players
proper. Maybe I just have a weird perspective from running several campaigns. Thing about MH is, the art and setting are amazing, there are some good design decisions that push it even farther. Unfortunately there are big ugly rules holes (Nurgle, looking at you), you're always a couple rolls away from a warband hitting the skids, and the GM has to stay on top of terrain placement pretty ruthlessly to keep things running smoothly. If it's not just a couple buddies fucking around or a weekend event, you'll see quite a lot of players drop off in a matter of a few weeks.
Anyway, the connection isn't mechanical. The root-guys got into the same kind of millennial fever that inspired Mordheim in the first place, along with the WW1 centennial hovering in the air. It attracted people who weren't able to be there the first time, or ones who missed the atmosphere, and provided a focal point for a whole bunch of people from the weirder branches off the Inquisimunda and Blanche-Appreciator tree.

>>96011321
Not sure if serious, but. Turnip was a concept before a ruleset. The Relicblade guy liked 2/3 of the core idea (WW1 x medieval horror) and decided to make his own game about the horrors of war while the Turnip guy was still jerking around on his Patreon delivering pictures of concept models instead of rules. Check the archives. You'll see a lot of bitching about it.

>>96011432
If I'm wrong about the order, my apologies, I am wrong often enough but the point that it has been extrapolated into more extreme interpretations since Sutter's rules both visually and thematically and that core idea of making /yourdudes/ out of bits and giving 'em some dark washes still appeals

>>96011438
And is public property

>>96011438
I agree with your entire post, I'm really just clarifying the stacking order.
>interacting with people online
Honestly the people IRL keep me much more honest, it's just that this is the only place I can find to talk about the really weird shit I like with people who are actually willing to hack the games.

>>96011485
Fwiw I think the Sludge / Doomed / Last War parameters are just that little bit more restrained in their execution that I like them more than the games that have taken off like TC but people lioe high impact heavy metal things I guess

What rulesets should I be looking at if I want to have like 6 weird sci-fi dudes and play a lightweight but narrative skirmish game with a friend?

Space Weirdos?

>>96011532
First, you'll have to tell me where are those minis from. If they are Khurasan then I'll be sad.
Second, I'd mention a couple that might work, but Space Weirdos sounds fine in my opinion.
>Xenotactics
>Rogue Planet
>Planet 28
>Stargrave
>5 Parsecs or FiveCore
>RENEGADES or Grimdark Future: Firefight

>>96008692
>Mechastellar
THANK YOU! It looks perfect!

>>96011532
In addition to the other Anon's suggestions, Brutality Skirmish (simple rules, weak narrative play) and 7TV (more complex rules much better depth and examples for scenario writing) might be up your alley. Realistically though, Weirdoes or 5Core were written for exactly what you want.

Has anyone tried to convert soft plastic miniatures?
What should I know if I am planning on working with soft plastic ?

>>96011829
Prepare to enter a valley of pain. Pretty much every other material is more fun to work with

>>96011593
No prob. There's a few others but they tend to go into build autism or muh Battletech that makes it very difficult to do anything that isn't just pure big stompy mechs. It's the only one that ever went into giant space monsters as far as I can immediately recall.

>>96011321
Wow, I had no idea Sludge was leaning so hard into Miyazaki's work now. Nausicaa and Shuna no Tabi are a goldmine of top tier designs.
Good call on their part.

>>96012005
>>96012028
Here's a question... what's a good kit of generic sci fi vehicles like tanks, apcs, drop pods snd smsll ships...

>>96012181
What is the cheapest model kit you can get ?

Anyone make good NEAR future miniatures?

Pic unrel

>>96012181
Scale?

>>96012458
He avoids those

Can anyone recommend some waegames or adventure type games I can pay with my 5yr old son. At the moment he likes to play board games and he wants to play X Wing but it's way too complex. I know most games won't be suitable but I can introduce him to the games and just help with the rules until he can fully read and understand them. I've looked at Moonstone and considered using a hex or square mat to move rather than a ruler. Or maybe try Hero Quest instead? Any ideas? I'm UK based so some games just aren't available here like Coraquest for example. He loves all the miniatures and rolling dice. His maths is much better than his reading so we've no issues with adding and subtracting numbers from dice rolls

>>96013103
Try Mini Gangs by Ramshackle Games. Very simple game, I used it to introduce my gf into wargaming. Very simple but vague rules so you may need to houserule some stuff on the go.

>>96013103
There's a series of D&D board games that are pretty simple. I remember my kid picking up blood bowl and gaslands pretty early, maybe not at 5 though. They will really make an effort in order to do grown up stuff with you, I wouldn't stress too hard about getting the perfect difficulty level.

>>96013142
>>96013181
Thanks for the suggestions. Yea I'll definitely just modify rules to make them easy enough to play. That was the idea with X Wing just to play with the introduction rules but using the movement dials to plan moves ahead was a little difficult as he would get mixed up which way he wanted to turn and which ruler to use. I've looked at games like Hero Quest, Core Space and Zombicide as options too, if they're co-operative then it's a lot easier as we can sit together and I can look at any cards he's got and make suggestions.

>>96013103
HeroQuest is what I started on as a kid and what I play with my kids

>>96013181
>grown up stuff.
Ah! Little do they know.

>>96013142
This Mini Gangs looks like a great idea. I was thinking of printing off some card standees for Moonstone and using them to play Mini Gangs. If we take to it I can get some card terrain and then some models and play that until ready to play Moonstone proper.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'd never have thought of it.

>>96013386
I suppose with Hero Quest I can also use the models to play some of these other games like Mini Gangs that have been suggested too. Loads to think about now.

>>96013103
Maybe try Gaslands? It has movement similar to X-wing, but not nearly as many special rules.

>>96013515
OPR has paper miniatures and scenery bundles available on wargamevault for free.
Moonstone is extremely fun but also complex. Between custom cards, random objective placement and positioning being crucial it may be overwhelming for a kid. Once he gets more experienced I definitely recommend giving Moonstone a try.
Maybe you can consider playing OPR with him but limiting yourself to the core rules only?

What I dont get is why frostgrave flavored it so your main pc has to be a magic user. surely the game would be more flexible if that wasnt the premise and it was just warband vs warband of various compositions like mordheim?

>>96013676
I think I've seen Gaslands. Plenty of food for thought here. I like the idea of these games that can use any models or even card standees. It gives me the chance to test games out without spending big money and finding nobody wants to play

>>96013705
This is definitely an option thanks. I've been looking around for printable miniatures but all I have found are sites that want you to sign up and pay for tiers.

>>96013718
Wargame Vault is legit, same as drivethrurpg. If you would ever get into OPR I recommend supporting them even for just a month. Once you do it, you can download all the rulebooks and shit from Wargame Vault. Even if you stop supporting them, you will be able to download updated rulebooks for the rest of your life anyway.

>>96013705
OPR is bad enough, but playing with paper models is just dreadful. You might as well not be wargaming at this point, since you've gutted 90% of the hobby already. If you don't care about making good looking models/terrain then you're not tabletop wargaming and you should check out some board games instead

>>96013835
Man, we are discussing here games to be played with a 5yo kid. Please take your meds and log out.

>>96013706
>why is a game about wizards leading bands of ruffians into an ancient ruin have wizards as the PC characters.
I don't understand it either anon. Its a true mystery.
Too bad there isn't a supplement that changes this......

>>96013835
Schizo melty, lmao.

>>96013895
GA isn't a supplement, it's a completely different game and the pirate superhero schtick is much gayer than just playing a wizard

>>96013921
Maybe you just hate fun.

>>96013103
Just make something up, rules don't matter at that age near enough to go through too much hassle. Dice are nice but keep them simple, mechanics too. A boiled down version of opr might work for example. Or someting like 1-3 failure rest works, d6 or d8 if good or bad, something is detrimental go to down one die (to d4 min), if somehing is helping go up one to d10 max. More rules are not really necessary.

I found rulers work well if they are the right size, sticks are even better (like sobh), just lay down the stick, move model so it's adjacent to stick.

Gaslands has a kids mode which works fine as well.

For some ideas see also https://28-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/nct-almanac-vol-1.pdf

>>96013835
Not that anon but I was planning to use OPR to introduce my rules-averse but pro-modelling Stoner Friends into "Warhammer". Is it so bad? I couldn't sell these guys the real rulebook, nor would I want to, but all lighter rank-n-flanks get such harsh criticism.

>>96014100
That's why HeroQuest is perfect. You roll a d6 to and count how many squares you move. For attack and defense the dice literally have pictures instead of numbers, so it's too easy for kids

>>96014072
I actually like GA but I also think its biggest downside is not being easily compatible with frostgrave despite being in the same setting. If you could easily mix heritor and wizard warbands, even if just for wizards coming down south and not heritors coming up north, it would probably have been a lot more popular. Ironically I have the opposite problem other anon has where I prefer the tropical sailing stuff of GA but only really want to play a wizard(necromancer) lmao, when my group ended up playing GA they let me homebrew stuff to basically play a frostgrave wizard. It was still awkward when it came to certain treasure items but mostly worked out, and let me fix some personal grievances i have with the necromancer's options in frostgrave anyways.

>>96014123
NTA but OPR is solid and fun. People shit their pants whenever someone mentions OPR games here but in most cases the critique boils down to repeating memes like mindless golems they are.
Is OPR simple in its core? Yes. Is it easy to learn? Yes.
Is it lacking any kind of complexity and depth? Fuck no. Most people that complain about OPR in /awg/ never played the game in the first place and the few that did only used the core rules. Once you expand into advanced rules and modules of your choice the game turns into a hard-to-master system with layers of complexity. It is only up to you to decide how much extra stuff you want on top of rolling dice with your friend.

>>96014123
if you are introducing people to wargaming it's fine, also as the other anon said

>>96013921
There's countless games that probably fit your personal taste but you will never play them.

>>96014123
>Is it so bad?
No it's not. It's perfect for some simple fun. The hate it gets is mostly because some people trott it out like its the best thought out deepest wargame there ever was and the answer to whatever question you ask.
Be aware that a simple statline is usually bought by hiding stuff behind keywords, so there is metal tax for keywords there.

>>96013711
Gaslands is meant to be played using matchbox or hot wheels cars with bits and bobs glued onto them to represent guns, spikes, scrap metal armor, and other mad max/twisted metal/deathrace accessories. I got nice acrylic templates, but you can just print out paper ones or trace and cut cardboard.

The preorder for Warlords new K47 starter set went live.
Besides the 2 resin commanders, everything is plastic.

I like the options for the german mech/tank (several guns/turrets) and the american walker is awesome too. However, both sprues contain a lot of parts, and i'm kinda afraid that assembly of both walkers might be really annoying.

>>96014397
>Bases present on the model sprues despite being available separately
Warlord will never learn, won't they?
>However, both sprues contain a lot of parts, and i'm kinda afraid that assembly of both walkers might be really annoying.
Nah, the German spider tank is just two sprues. They look super easy to assemble and even to magnetize.

I wonder what will be the 3rd party retailer price. The price tag is not the worst but 114 eurobucks can buy you a lot of stuff nowadays so they have a lot of other companies and games to compete with.

>>96014263
>Be aware that a simple statline is usually bought by hiding stuff behind keywords, so there is metal tax for keywords there.
NTA but this is a pet peeve of mine. It's fine for man-to-man historicals rules but makes more mess with everything else. Don't know why some writers are so wedded to the idea of simple statlines they end up making more clutter.

>>96015297

I defend the decision to have the complexity in universal special rules. In practice it has been easy for me to look them up in the army builder app while playing, should any questions arise.

SCIFI..OR FANTASY?

>>96014199
It's the same system, playing a wizard in death jungle sim or Sinbad wannabe in not Mordheim is really easy.

>>96015676
Alt-hist

>>96015714
No it's not, and their is a massive discrepancy in power levels between GA and FG characters

>>96015714
In theory yes, thats why my homebrew worked out ok, but the problem arises from the available treasure for each system and how wizards/heritors progress. Wizards need to be able to obtain spellbooks to learn more spells, which are useless to heritors and wardens. There are solutions to this but you basically need to homebrew your own treasure tables or have wizards roll on frostgrave ones while heritors roll on GA ones and just figure out how wizards get map stones(which is still going to be awkward)
A long story short the fundamental system is the same so its not impossible to have them work together but they were not designed to be compatible and there's a surprising amount of things you need to account for and homebrew if you try. which is just more than most frostgrave players who would normally be interested in GA as a supplement would be willing to do and time has unfortunately shown its own audience is a bit lacking.

>>96015676
Real chads play Historical

>>96015819
That's more like contemporary

>>96015676
Real chads play Historical

>>96015819
Real real chads play historical but with muppets

>>96014397
I think this looks neat and am hoping to get my Brits on the board when it launches.

>>96012813
Settle, petal.

>>96012458
Anything that will work with 28mm. That includes 1/35 with some kitbashing.

>>96013835
Paper minis are ideal because they are going to fuck that shit up with a cat stuck to them with ice cream.

Love children but if I had my own I would totally hide my hobby shit and give them the breakable Army Men version of it until they develop some fine motor skills lol

The best fun is where it's not a worry, if you're relaxed they are

>>96014397
I'm not into it but I think it would probably gel well with the cheapest Bolt Action starter right out the gate. I like the troops. I'm not sold on walkers in general.

>>96016529
It definitely feels like it's meant to go with that starter, yeah. Not a bad approach, making the Weird War Two thing pair with the historical

>>96014648
i like the fireflies ok except im still not a fan of the "rift tech" and especially on their backpacks, but i think the rift tech weapons are worse.
Not nearly as sold on the german stuff though, spider walker fits but is a bit too goofy for me, and the heavy guys feel WAY too space marine-y for me, definitely an aesthetic step down from the other k47 german armored guys

>>96014397
>>96014648
looks like they finally have a better studio painter

>>96016643
>the heavy guys feel WAY too space marine-y for me, definitely an aesthetic step down from the other k47 german armored guys
Fortunately we've got Iron-Kore for that

>>96016504
>until they develop some fine motor skills lol
The fine motor skills? They get those fast. The restraint to use them properly though...
Mine's already figuring out screwdrivers (God help us) and he's 18 months old.

>>96015865
Do you use the hexes or is that just the right color mat? Nice warband, btw, would play a murderous game of cat and mouse in an ancient Egyptian city for an undisclosed treasure/10
>>96016583
I mean, it sounds cool to us, but it also seems like it would make bolt action guys flip their shit, in a bad way.

>>96016767
That's a Battletech mat I just happen to have on my table. Playing Bolt Action or K47 on hexes would get weird.

>>96016723
>"Fortunately we've got Iron-Kore for that"
If youre talking about the WGA guys, theyre hardly any different and suffer alot of the same things, they just have more appealing proportions

So will Warlord Games remove all symbols related to Imperial Japan and Soviet Russia other than the most vague and pluralistic iconography or will Nazi Germany be singled out once again as the only offensive faction in WWII? Will the failure to embrace horror themes in the intense political and imperial background of the 1940s lead to this edition being a flop?

>>96018081
Do you uh want the nazi symbols? https://youtu.be/Mq8RnAfCFwk?si=RiQh_Z2dtu5MtiKo

>>96018081
The description of the Axis army has an explanation. It's dumb.

>>96018081
Just like freehand it

>>96018182
Not the point, brainlet.

>>96018185
I have never used calcomanies because I am not a casual. Git gud scrub.

>>96018155
I'll reserve judgement for once I've seen more, but I'm not against Hitler and co getting offed and/or supplanted by leaders who aren't interested in Nazism and offer the original leadership because they were losing.

>>96018204
Show the abomination of yours then.

>>96018209
>offer
*offed
Stupid phone keyboard

>>96018155
>>96018209
If this "Green Vault" is the scientists in charge of the Rift Tech program with Rommel or Donitz as a figurehead, that could work.

>>96018081
>it's a "we have to keep the three or four Nazis who pretend to wargame happy" thread

>>96018221
Gay lookin' windmill, honestly.

>>96018081
I will not be buying K47 due this this reason alone. Fuck those pussy British losers

>>96018221
That's the old one, look at the new and improved soitica.

>>96018256
I was expecting a loss.jpg meme

>>96018081
The British are so buck broken by post war propaganda it's not even funny, it's just sad. London is minority white, there are over 400 schools in the UK which are over 90% non white .. and the British are too busy being concerned about putting historical symbols in their game, lest the hate speech unit knock on their door

>>96018292
It probably has more to do with not having to print a separate transfer sheet for places where swastikas are outright not allowed than anything else. They're a business after all, they won't waste money.

>>96018292
>>96018387
yeah to be fair it could be for Germany as much as anywhere, though it would not suprise me if it was a law you couldn't use explicit nazi references in your IPs in the UK.

>>96018292
>t. Santiago Sanchez DaQuarious Xochtli III

Please post about /tg/ I beg you. In my view it just bypasses the minefield of selling to a bunch of countries and you wanted those Swazzies for your Space Marines anyway.

The only way WW2 is continuing into and beyond 1947 is Uncle Adi is like post-shooting Lenin in his easychair doing photo ops when not being injected with weird shit to settle his nerves. Being stacked against two legendary alcoholics and a bloke in a wheelchair he comes up asin less than robust health and was making unforced errors in 42, 43, 44 and 45. Whatever his "awesome" qualities in the traditional sense of the word he was not a master tactician and was in a state of distraction and delusion by war's end.

>>96018427
I hear Dust Tactics had Hitler's higher ups assassinate him and blame the Allies for it, turning him from a liability as a leader to a conveniently quiet martyr. They might do something similar here and it'd make sense, with Germany retiring the swastika to mark the change.

>>96018443
the swastika isn't representative of Hitler or the Third Reich, just the aryan german people coming together under one nation. The only possible reason it would be retired is something like Germany dominating the axis and changing it into an empire that actively seeks to rule over multiple ethnicities like the Italians, Romanians and Japanese and so aryan symbolism wouldn't be appropriate. It is still a massive stretch though, especially as the propaganda by the late war changed from 'we are uniting the aryan germans' to 'we are defending aryan germans' with little imperialistic slant by that point.

>>96018462
Yeah but it's easy enough for whoever replaces Hitler to decide he wants to mark the change and get rid of the swastika and replace it with an iron cross or that fang looking symbol from the transfer sheet to show that this is The New Germany under someone else and Hitler is the past. It's not like propaganda has to be logically consistent.

>>96018462
That's pretty retarded lol
Why are Nazis so dumb

>>96018462
On paper maybe, but because of how Hitler was emphasized in public, a lot of the symbolism even back then was directly tied to his own image. The iconic man taking the iconic symbol with him when he died isn't out of the question, especially if the next leader would prefer it if everyone cared about what he wanted rather than what Hitler would have wanted.

>>96004691 (OP)
I am kinda digging the Last War way morr than Trench Crusade tbqh
https://youtu.be/LGNH4k4ZGWw?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/IhPYgaP-IaQ?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/0CtS6KSo4Hc?feature=shared

>>96018588
Especially bringing the Axis powers into one entity

>>96004945
He said that because you posted latex woman.

>>96018615
>woman

>>96018615
Wait until you find out what death cult assassins, the minis I was talking about an alternative for, wear Anon.

>>96018531
>>96018588
missing the point, the symbol isn't about Hitler but explicitly about the 'justness' of the cause and why the Nazis should rule. It would need to be a total regime change to make it inappropriate or to be totally removed from usage, which I don't think K47 is supposed to be, more just a 'tech branch that offers a chance of survival to the regime gains control'. In any case removing it is clearly not in the interests of writing better lore or making a more interesting faction, it is a company pruning offensive material to make its product saleable, not sure why people jump to its defense beyond saying they don't care either way.

>>96018638
I'm quite well aware of what the death cult assassin's are, mate.

I have a game that can become like a wargame, with enough summons.

>>96019109
It isn't "supposed" to be about Hitler. That doesn't mean that's how the people or the next regime will see it.

>>96013835
oh look another no games fag who's only fulfillment in life is consuming products

>>96018081
Oh noes, if only someone ever made a set of decals for Imperial Germany and Third Reich...

>>96018081
>complaining that theres no swastika
>meanwhile theres still the iron cross, a rendition of their eagle, tons of lightning bolts, and everything is still very clearly in line with other nazi iconography but different since its still meant to be scifi and an "evolution"
Yall retards will never be happy with anything and just look for things to complain about, the iron cross was used just as much if not more, and warlord still has PLENTY of swastika decals already (both finnish and german)

>>96020773
This. If you buy any Bolt Action kits (which you will for any non-Rift Tech unit) you'll have plenty of swastikas for your K47 force. Probably more than you'll ever use given how they give you a range of sizes.

>>96019109
You ignored the premise of the game to grandstand. Nazis are so easily offended, the Axis is a combined power at this point.

>>96018590
I like both. I think they scratch different itches, though. Trench Crusade has Muh Fluff in it, whereas Last War is more of a blank slate.

>>96019236
Tell me more, I'm a lover of summons since I Played sacrifice so long ago.

>>96020876
Its just something the notorious warlord haters will use to badmouth those kits. Completely irrelevant.

>>96018081
Question do the hammer and sickle get removed too? Or the Imperial Japan flag?

>>96007017
>you lazy bastard, spent hours on kitbashing and then basically slopped shit on them rather than actually painting them
I could see that low of time have sculpting to then give them weird bad print jobs.
I kinda took it as just a guy who prefers sculpting to painting.

>>96004691 (OP)
Warlord is dropping the 2000AD stuff now as the license expires this year. I really hope someone else takes over the Judge Dredd stuff.

>>96024780
That's definitely a factor too. I strongly prefer building to painting, and imagine this afflicts a great many of the crowd. So they must be delighted to find a quick-paint aesthetic that works.

>>96025492
Blame ABC Warriors for that. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>96025968
>>96023313
>Bolt Action 3, whatever happened there...

>>96025968
>>96026239
Spreading the license over four games was the issue. Nobody wanted anything except more Judge Dredd minis. They only got one of the Dark Judges made.

Came across a free game called "Renegades."
https://www.playrenegades.com/
Anybody tried this? Is it worth my time?

>>96026412
Maybe if you actually put effort in the shilling and told people about how the game is you could pull in more of them than with posting the same thing over and over.

>>96026438
When was the last time this game was asked about here?
Sorry I didn't mean to bring up a finished and buried topic.

>>96026459
I'd recommend posting battle reps or something sometimes, I think that would help growing interest in the game.

Trying to teach the 5yr old how to play Mini Gangs with Lego Star Wars.

Was going to print some card stock standees but the printer is broke because the cat with dementia did a turd in it

>>96026501
Damn I need to buy a lottery ticket. It even mimics my phoneposting texting style.
Sorry everyone.

>>96026643
Battle Report

Total catastrophe for the rebels. Tried to practice with the wife but she ran everyone straight forward, C3P0 (healer) was gunned down by the Storm Trooper (shooter) in Round 2. Round 3 saw Darth Vader (fighter) sneak around the speeder and charge Han Solo (shooter) killing him instantly. Luke Sywalker (fighter) was then cut down by the Storm Trooper for his 2nd kill. Finally in Round 4 the Emperor (leader) successfully zapped Yoda (leader) and ended the game.

I got the message that she has absolutely no interest in ever playing a wargame with me.

>>96026771
I dunno, I think it's ok to solicit opinions on a game you're curious about every 3 months or so.
>>96026908
Soldier on, brother.

>>96026938
I've got Hero Quest: First Light coming on Tuesday to play with the older girls. They'll prefer a campaign type game over a wargame. We enjoyed playing Horrified a lot so we're looking for something more in depth that we can play together.

Finally got a lovely way to display my awg, first step in making my tg museum dream come to live

>>96027035
Looking good.
Personally I am pondering making a bunch of dioramas in transparent boxes for display.

Has anyone played Vor the maelstrom? I want to own some and itd be nice to gave functional forces for starter games. How many models normally go into a unit, would pic related by a good starter?

>>96027057
That would be good, have you made dioramas before?

>>96027035
Based. I'm thinking about buying multiple china cabinets and doing something similar.
All the painting and such to get stuck in a box.

>>96009540
This sounds good until you start hearing politically biased buzzwords.
I am sick of the bait and switch, the need to wear the club badge, etc.

I myself would also like non-corporate wargaming hobby, but things are not going to improve by trumpeting the arrival of every homosexual and black gamer, because that's what those exhibitionist, narcissist, bleating sheep do. I want a good game community, not one that has a specific faction's stamp of approval.

If gay and black gamers can arrive without bluehairs sounding their fucking trumpet, long enough to actually assemble and paint miniatures, that is different.

But the present zeitgeist doesn't support that.
It's either join their union or be a racist.

And that, oddly, is exclusion and gatekeeping.

>>96028195
>This sounds good until you start hearing politically biased buzzwords
Yeah, it was all good until about the two third mark.

Got to play a starter box game of Leviathan with a friend yesterday. The Star Destroyer physiognomy of the Terran fleet is accurate - their forward firepower is murderous.

Next time we'll be adding our cruisers and/or carriers, and playing on on a larger hexgrid.

Other than Monsterpocalypse, which I'm aware of, can anyone think of any miniature games with ranges of plant monsters that lean more towards the inhuman/monstrous or body-horror adjacent? A lot of what I see is either fungal or more dryad looking stuff like the Sylvaneth or the Malifaux fae.

>>96025492
>Warlord is dropping the 2000AD stuff now as the license expires this year. I really hope someone else takes over the Judge Dredd stuff.
Judge Dredd minis games have been through 5 different license holders in the last 25 years, they'll find another sucker for a 5-year license in the next few months if they don't laready have one lined up. At least CMoN is dead so we don't have to deal with them squatting the license for a single incomplete Zombicide expansion.

>>96028195
It's absolute drivel and all this "oh blacks, gays, women, Muslims, etc" are being excluded from the game is utter nonsense. It's entirely a product of liberal activists who see majority white men taking part in something and deciding to force diversity into it. Nobody is standing outside the local gaming store and saying "sorry mate you can't come in". It's liberal activists who see majority white male hobbies and decide they've got to take a wrecking ball to it. Interestingly it seems to be coming to an end in the video game industry because gamers just stopped buying western games and bought games by Eastern European, Japanese and now Chinese devs. It's been a blood bath for the big western studios as they've had flop after flop after flop and are now firing all their diversity consultants. TTWGs are just playing catch up, same as TTRPGs like D&D which is having its own problems with players abandoning it in their droves. The point being that people who are concerned about wizards in wheel chairs rolling through dungeons aren't very good at making exciting storylines or fun and engaging game mechanics.

>>96027236
Not really, only terrain.

>>96029382
Crooked Dice has "fungoids", which despite the name are more like vines. There's a few loose vine monsters, some dog-like ones, and one big humanoid vine thing. I'd assume that their 7TV game has rules for all of these.

>>96029614
>>96028195
Seems like you guys are overly sensitive and obviously obscuring some prejudice if reaffirming that a hobby group is enthusiastic about protecting and showcasing minorities makes you feel upset and excluded.

I don't really like superficial performances of liberal orthodoxy either but I think it's more meaningful to these people than it is you.

It doesn't harm you in any way if people in a hobby feel more comfortable spelling out their values set so weed out people who are going to be a problem.

I'm not especially life wing or postmodernist and I endorse doing this. More than anything else, misanthropic devious cunts are worse to be around in an outcomes based hobby than toxically positive right on types

>>96029710
Very Seeds of Doom from the good wobbly set era Dr Who.

Btw of any of you are unfortunate enough to struggle with /awg/ and /hawg/ opponents I strongly suggest selling some old kit. Have met some solid chaps this week if a little far from ,e

>>96029957
Crooked Dice sells a lot of models that are just things from movies or TV shows with the name changed, so it doesn't surprise me at all that these are also just a straight rip from something.

>>96029955
>is enthusiastic about protecting and showcasing minorities
It's completely fake though. It's purely performative to appease their own built in prejudices (omg gays and blacks can't play wargames because of evil white nerds!).
In all my years of life I've never seen a black man, gay man or any other minority excluded from the hobby based upon those unchangeable traits.

>>96029970
Don't worry you'll wring a lot of content out of it. Fleas on a dog

>>96029982
Are you having a stroke?

>>96028195
The political buzzwords are great, one look at that shit and I know I can chuck the whole thing into the garbage.

I miss the old days, when nerds were outcasts, there was no political clout to be won about it, and nobody gave much of a fuck if you where white, black, straight, homo, religious, commie or whatever, as long as you could hide your power level and knew the rules (or were willing to learn).

>>96030012
>>96030000
>I miss when nerds were outcasts but I'm an outcast for ostracising other people, and now I'm mad

Fragile AF

>>96029968
I really like crooked dice. I got some skellingtons from them.

>>96030016
Oh, you are just shitposting. Honest question. Why don't you just shitpost on /v/, /pol/ or any other designated shitposting board?

>>96029710
>>96029968
With that style of painting I can't stop seeing the plants in 320x200x256. I love it.

>>96030026
>>96029968
I appreciate Crooked Dice for keeping a bunch of lines alive that'd be dead otherwise, like the Apocalypse Isle stuff. And yes, those skeletons are great.

>>96030045
No, I'm not. It's amazing how butthurt you guys are for them existing as a collective and how said butthurt proves they are right to organise in an exclusive way.

>>96030590
>It's amazing how butthurt you guys are
>He says after his fifth post crying

>>96030831
Come on, you should know better than to expect self-awareness from those types.

>>96029605
I would buy it for the board and models and use them for RPGs.

What are some fun skirmish games build around creating your own cult and worship? I would love to find a system with deity customisation options to grant boons to your cult, rituals and all kind of stuff.
Verrotwood looks nice but it seems to be less than it promises. Dead Gods is laughably bad.

>>96032589
I'm reminded of the old 2D Solium Infernum vidya that very much looked like a boardgame.

>>96030026
Same! Have you seen the new pirate skellies yet? They have a bone parrot and monkey that I'm going to use as familiars.
Also really cool Kali cultist stuff that I'm going to use as cultists for Ahriman
The thuggee were wild, man

>>96029382
Crooked dice as mentioned, but diehard miniatures has some fungal zombies that are pretty gnarly, and hydra minis has some vine creatures that are pretty cool.
Crooked dice also has assassin vine stuff too

>>96032589
Pretty lady...

>>96032589
I was going to say Verrotwood until I saw your last sentence lol
I remember seeing it on GMG

>>96027225
You would have to get the Forcebooks (the pdfs should be easy to hunt down). For the Union, most squads are 6-8, plus a sergeant. 1-2 Drones can be attached to squads, or be bunched up in a larger grouping, IIRC.

Shard, I think, are more in the Zykhee range with squads of 3-6, but I think it depends on the type.

>>96032589
Reign in Hell is similar to that idea, although it's more about demons gaining powers:
https://www.wargamevault.com/product/356459/Reign-in-Hell

>>96032623
>Solium Infernum
This would make a sick wargame.

Ah yes, the 28 movement

*wretches*

>>96032589
I would LOVE a Dominion tabletop wargame. Choose your faction, customize a deity, plan battles that goes wrong because it's all hidden orders you have to take one to three Turns in advance. I can pretty much pillage the PC game for the faction lore, deity customization and army creation points value. But what already existing wargame does the token orders thing the best so I can just steal it? X-Wing?

Was looking into Malediction. Seems like a neat game, tragically it turns out the starter sets only come with cardboard standees of the miniatures and a download code for .stl files.
Truly as a wargamer with no 3d printer I am among the most oppressed people.

>>96032589
Dominions 6/conquest of elysium style. I think the best right now is the Of Gods and Mortals, but it lacks all the god/cult, nice combat sistem based in SoBaH, but not deep enough for what you search.

>>96033805
Yeah, I really don't want to invest in a 3D printer, but they way things are going, and how pricing for shipping is steadily rising, I may just have to suck it up and find a good cheap one.

Remember when marketing was loud and in yo fucking face? We need to bring it back.
It gets me pumped for a faction or a game, new marketing is all so cutter cookie (print/image based Im talking about)

>>96033576
If you make a tabletop version, do post. I wanted to make one but never got around to it. Too bad the remake looks like shit.

>>96031662
>those types

This is why they have to look out for each other and not you. I'm about as far from "woke" as it gets but given their presence elicits so much discomfort on your part, genuinely whyare you surprised its a closed shop? I wouldn't want somone yelling "kill whitey" in my ear whileI glue a leg on, the same is true in reverse.

Even if you think it's goofy, they signal to like minds to bundle together because you don't reakly make them feel welcome. The reverse is true, as is repeatedly demonstrated. Even someone mentioning they are different in some waycauses you to go into a conniption.

I say good for the 28 people, stick to 40k, all the "keep politics out of gaming" is lead by people who won't shut up about the news cycle. What they really mean is "proximity to people who aren't Chuds makes me wet myself." They can't existanywhere without you stamping your feet.

Is it ugly and amateurish? Maybe at times but even "crap" is an area of self expression hobbyists need to be aware is open to them. Painting is a habit, they will improve anyway.

90% of my opponents are white male veterans over 30 and they never whine about stuff like this. They would tell you to get over yourself and to learn to navigate the world instead of projecting self loathing and ego onto others.

>>96030234
I could spend way too much money on that website.

>>96034601
The people around here are too sensitive for that. Just watch how they yowl when reminded of Warmachine's Page 5.

>>96035677
I don't think I'm familiar?

>>96036957
Page 5 is premium 2000's edgy cringe marketing. The original catchphrase was "Play like you have a pair". There's people in /awg/ that either outgrew that kind of shit and have forgotten the context, or are too young to know what the early 2000's were like, so they like to shit on Page 5 and use it to shit on the game as a whole.

The thing is, it was the 2000's when they were using it, and the company itself eventually grew out of it, dropping it something like a decade ago from their books. It was to appeal to teenagers back then, in a ridiculous "Are you cOoOoOl enough?" way that was pretty common coming out of the 90's. This was the same time 40k started pushing the Grimdark thing a lot more. So its cringe, but the way people in here react to it, they act like a 20 year old ad campaign is still relevant and up-to-date.

>>96037028
>Play like you have a pair, or drop the metal and go play something made of plastic
Aged like fine milk.

Do you prefer taller bases like GW etc. (3mm or higher) or 'just enough for a mini to stand' like Renedra etc. (1mm)?

>>96037815
Taller, but I realize it's partly because that's what I started with.

>>96037815
Hate tactical rocks no matter what. That being said, I don't mind 3mm high bases for 28mm but I'll go as thin as plasticards for 2-3mm. A tool for every job.

>>96037815
I like my bases like my anime girls: as flat as Chihaya from Idolm@ster.

>>96013103
I've been playing The Doomed with my 4 year old. granted I'm just fighting the horrors and making the decisions but he has fun helping me set up the board, moving minis, and rolling dice. We've been practicing number comparison too and I've just started trying to help him understand LOS.

>>96037726
>>96035677
Lol, lmao even.

>>96037815
I like renedra bases.

New 2-player box for Warcrow, what do you guys think?
https://youtu.be/b887PMx3bpA

>>96040460
Don't care at all unless they are switching back to metal or swapping to hard plastic.

>>96040460
Pretty amazing amount of foot on rock. How am I supposed to know who the leader is if everyone does it?

>>96040579
When in doubt, the pointy finger shows the way.

>>96040579
Corvus Belli is latin for "Rocks of War"

>>96040579
The tactical rock is a Corvus Belli staple.

>>96040460
I like the peekaboo armor and that's it.

>>96040460
Cute zako halberdier girls.
Not worth the money though, so I'll stick to Rahing Heroes.

>>96040460
Never heard of it but those designs look very interesting. I might have to check it out.

>>96040732
It's quite new (1 year old, I think?). From the same guys who make Infinity.

>>96040703
yeah that braided hair one is nice

>>96040460
I hate tactical rocks so much.

>>96040460
I think corvus had the chance to make something cool and just made magic the gathering dnd slop

>>96040460
More interesting than the landknechts and orcs but not by much, I'm kinda over modern CB designs in general though

>>96041074
Eventually everything will go through its oldhammer stage where everyone looks back and realises there was something so fucking appealing when the sculpting was a bit limited by tech and skill

>>96040460
the top left soldiers look neat, and the tongue belly dude is sick

>>96041186
The further we stray from 2nd edition, the more Malifaux looks like some DA gallery.

>>96037815
>Do you prefer taller bases like GW etc. (3mm or higher) or 'just enough for a mini to stand' like Renedra etc. (1mm)?
For most 28mm things I prefer a little height on a base. I felt the bottoms for better grip, less noise, and hiding base-weights on the metal stuff. If there are egregious puddle bases I either cut them down into pins/slots, or drop the model into a Renedra-style flat base and then build it up with texture paste.
For mecha minis I use Chessex plastic hexes for all my plastics, and cast my own pewter hex bases for the metals. Fleet-scale things get either appropriate hexes or a brass hangar rod, with a key filed into it, in a circle base. I like to mark the bases with firing arcs, so the key on the stem helps keep things aligned properly while still letting me dismount everything for storage. Saves a huge amount of space.


>>96040460
"ehhh". A couple of them are cute, but I'm not sinking Infinity prices into a couple bland outscale models when I could be paying that for Confrontation recasts and whatnot.

>>96040460
Looks nice, kinda want the moon-elf lady and the hammer knight for sole purpose of painting. Outside of that been meaning to pick up the other human factions and MAYBE consider either dwarfs and orcs.

Not sure if I'll ever get to it though, there's too many wargames and I barely have time for the several I already play.

>>96038542
It's how its done. Good job mate.

>>96040460
HUmans a bit too generic (the hand helmet is cool tough, they should have gone more weird in that way), but I like hte baddies, I love bio-armors.

>>96041186
We need to go older

>>96041998
We need to go to ass.

>>96041186
>>96041998
>>96042019
I want the MRRF back! No Mero, no more cash. Simple as. Give me Loup Garou and Zouaves all day anyday.

>>96042394
They're back!
In reinforcement form!

>>96011321
w...where are these tanks from?

>>96045119
Those were 3d prints for the Sludge wargame. Don'tk now if they were limited or if they're still being sold.

>>96045119
>>96045126
Oh the .stl's are still for sale, from Black Site Studios:
https://blacksitestudio.com/en-au/products/gustav-tank

Neat.

>>96042778
Is it going to be a shitty pack with one single neoCB sculpt each among other useless minis I don't need but I'll have to buy at a premium price anyway?

>>96045272
It's already out.

>>96040573
Half of the minis are now plastic resin (unicool). They are droping the terrible siocast, but I guess they still need to recover part of the 70k € the machine costed.

I applaud the change though.

>>96040460
I really like these two factions, they looks way cooler than the two included in the old box.

Too bad half of the minis are still siocast, which is ass to work with.

>>96045382
>They are droping the terrible siocast,
Only for big dudes, siocast is still used for anything smaller than an Infinity TAG or vehicle, or Warcrow cavalry.

>>96011532
>>96011565
>First, you'll have to tell me where are those minis from
+1

>>96045382
>plastic resin (unicool)
It fucking sucks as well. Unless you go balls-deep into hard plastic there is no point in dropping metal. Reshit and crap plastic are the worst.

>siocast
thanks, I just threw up

>>96040460
the crossed arms breastplate goes hard
kinda whatever miniatures otherwise

>>96048802
The Beyond box, with that dude, Tonguechest and their respective mooks is a temptor.

>>96048802
That's an assassin unit apparently, despite all the armour.
https://youtu.be/U5bsN_dWZs0

>>96049027
Man, say whatever you want about corvus belli, they art is impecable.

>>96049344
The art's meh, just like the minis.

>>96049615
I think the art is pretty good.
The concept is just kinda meh.

Group is considering starting a 10mm scale game for fun and looking at two that have a relatively low entry point for starter sets, Dropzone Commander and Armored Clash. Anyone have any experience with either of these, love the look of the models for both and the rules seem good on paper. Might also be fun to try my hand at 10mm scale terrain if we end up sticking with either.

>>96050792
Dropzone is looking to get a new edition either late this year or early next year. Can't say anything about the how the rules will look at the moment (optimistic from what I've heard but nothing is concrete yet), but it will be getting a lot of updated plastics to replace the mostly resin model range it has now. So if you're interested it might be something you want to focus more on once said new version rolls out, depending on your tolerance for resin models.

If you want to give it a go now though, the starter sets are fully functional armies by themselves and will give you a good idea of how the game plays.

>>96045382
>>96045441
>>96047880
What is siocast and why is it bad?

>>96051107
It's a plastic you can cast without expensive equipment and without the downsides of metal or resin, but it just has its own downsides like shredding if you try to file or scrape it so cleaning mold lines and sprue connection points sucks

>>96051107
It's a weird fucky plastic, but the system to cast it is way cheaper than traditional spincasting. Still out of reach of most individuals, but for a small business It's a five digit expense rather than a six digit one. Both the material and the system are called siocast.

>>96050792
Regardless of which one you go with, the TTCombat cardboard terrain/tile set is a spectacular value for anything from 10-12mm. They also have a free print-at-home version on the website you can use as templates to build a more 3-D version.
That said, TTCombat has been fucking the dog pretty badly on the rules side for a while. They've let the original Dropzone creator back onto the project, apparently, but I'd keep a sharp eye on things.

>>96051107
>What is siocast and why is it bad?
A hybrid bioplastic that has similar properties to tin when melted. Unfortunately, it's also grainy, extremely soft, and shreds when you file it. It's got the exact same kind of casting issues as metal (although scrungly sculpts tear up the mold a lot less than metal ones), the problem is it's much harder to correct them in the finished model. Most of the companies that have tried it have invested heavily, then eventually transferred to either bulk 3D printing or a PVC mix like Reaper did.
Pic related for some of the casting and cleanup problems I've had with Cyberpunk Red minis. Note the mold slip on the woman with the subgun in particular (and yes, I cut off some of the extraneous red crosses on the models on purpose)
>>96051581
>the system to cast it is way cheaper than traditional spincasting.
The important part is that it uses the same (cheap) molds and equipment as metal, but the material costs about a twentieth as much as tin. Which is still skyrocketing in price as we speak, because Philipino drug lords and the Taliban control the only functioning large-scale tin mines.

>>96051657
Dave has been shackled into the CAD-dungeons since the acquisition, I believe.

>>96005542
These looks great, any chance owner or some good souls sell stls for them?

>>96013706
im just saying i like its general mechanics as a non name brand mordheim, but I find that aspect to be constrictive.


The other game by the same guy did a much better job in that regard, rangers of shadow deep, where your ranger could be a full on heavy infantry slugger with various non magical abilities, or a full blown wizard, or something in between like a classic ranger or cleric with some magical abd non magical abilities.


I like the mechanics, just the premise I think is unnecessarily narrow.


my 3 systems that most apeal to me are oathmark, frostgrave, and rangers of shadow deep for thier respective unit count, it just seems frostgrave is the odd one out when it comes to premise flexibility.

>>96054112
>it just seems frostgrave is the odd one out when it comes to premise flexibility.

which is odd, because McCullough‘s 2 other products are all about that.

>>96051657
>TTCombat cardboard tiles set.
Anon it's been out of production for years. It's a 20x buildings + 4x single side printed thin paper maps set now. I tried to win a really decent Ebay bidding war for the original set a week ago but EU decided it would be 15€ shipping + 10€ import fees for a 30€ item so I couldn't compete with any UK chad and had to give up as soon as I started it. If you still have an OG Cityscape or Ruinescape somewhere in your pile consider yourself lucky.

>>96054112
Have you tried stargrave? while it's scifi imo it does a much better job of allowing you to customize your leader and even still has enough room to play magical characters.

>>96051657
Additionally, I've heard the siocast machines themselves are difficult to repair and you have to get help from the company that makes siocast themselves.

At least that's what I saw related to some drama of a failed kickstarter game (Rivenstone) having major production issues.

>>96057602
Is that the excuse they ended up giving? The last I heard about Rivenstone was Hungerford talked up a lot of shit, and then silently left the industry to go into video games.

>>96057778
I thought it was that the owners of Broken Anvil took all their kickstarter money and blew it on luxury purchases?

>>96057920
It could be, I haven't seen any actual official word other than them selling the IP last year. It was mostly before that, the backers only found out it was a dead project because Hungerford changed his LinkedIn profile to a new job. It doesn't look like the new owners have done anything with it yet.

>>96057985
It's actually Joshua Qualtari and his business partners; they've offered up all the STLs but it seems they haven't done anything else.

They revealed some Weaver Courts stuff in today's Happy Hour. It looks like they will get some plant monsters and moth riders.

>>96059632
And a plant dragon. Nothing really about rules yet.

>>96059644
Great stuff. I was asking about plant monsters just recently. I'll have to keep an eye on this!

>>96059808
They are also getting treemen and Will-o-the-wisps that are plants.

>>96059917
And the wisps. They are described like white blood cells for the Weaver's region, attacking enemies automatically and ignoring the Courts troops.

>>96059632
>>96059644
>>96059917
>>96059930
That really looks like its been designed by someone who's never painted minis or even had them on a table before.

>>96037028
I love page 5

>>96060032
They're so big, they can get away with it.

First lore snippet for new Konflikt 47

https://warlord-community.warlordgames.com/special-report-president-march-1944/

>WGA already showing off halfling cav
Okay.

>>96062170
..and Battletoads for Death Fields

>>96060032
many such cases

>>96062170
>not mounted on giant turkeys or hogs
a bit disappointed

>>96060032
Yep, learned the hard way not to print stuff like that.

Anyone know of any tracked motorbikes in 28-32mm scale?

>>96062441
Those are going to be plastic.

>>96063430
louisa fusi from malifaux

>>96059644
The photos from the Livestream sucked. Obscured a lot of detail.

>>96063562
What the fuck is this piece of shit? I remember MFX models having detail 5 times better.

WGA showed off some piles of boxes with pretty much all the Damned sprues for their US backers. Sprue for Heavy Infantry needs some fixes, but everything else (for US) is ready.
Spures are on their way to the UK now.

They also showed pictures of the painted Mauler vehicle.

>>96064021
Meh. Should've gotten another box of infantry.

>>96064299
I think it looks awesome. I got 6 for myself.
Probably i will make 2 closed ones, and 4 with the open top, and make them into makeshift tank destroyers by gluing an artillery gun on the plattform.

>>96064011
They started putting out a lot of trash in 3rd Edition and 4th is shaping up to be even worse

>>96064600
>>96064600
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>>96063576
I'm gonna nut.