Thread 96008823

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>>Previous Thread:
>>96004815

>Thread Question:
What faction needs their model range expanded the most?

>>96008823 (OP)
Objectively: Votann, Emperor's Children, World Eaters, and Thousand Sons
Subjectively: GSC, Grey Knights, Custodes, and DE

Who does this describe in 40k?

>>96008823 (OP)
>post yfw when your friend agrees to a game but brings Imperial Knights

>>96008853
dunno, ask /hhg/

>>96008845
Custodes need to go into agents

>>96008845
>Marines need more marine stuff
Just grab one the many marine things and add some spikes or paint them them gold

>>96008878
so do grey knights and imperial knights

>>96008892
Well duh

>>96008892
what about chaos knights? there is no Chaos (imperial) agents for chaos

What happens if a blank tries to use a daemon weapon? Does it just become a normal weapon or does it straight up just die in the blank’s hands?

>>96008879
Cry more nomodels

All rise for the 40k National Anthem
https://youtu.be/fBf-Nwhm3KQ?si=EU1x1Sw2hlEsqBvK

>>96008894
they should be in csm

Ironbro here, done with the Grimnyr, the only biokyn in mydudes League. getting better at oils.

>>96008894
Make a Lost & Damned codex with all the new cultist units + Knights(evil) + traitor guard + chaos xenos

>>96009156
>>96009168
Hell yeah brother. Great work on the cloak.

>>96009198
these should all just be in the one chaos undivided codex

What god would a chaos arbites be most susceptible to falling towards? I want to do a Judge Death inspired kitbash

>>96008823 (OP)
>Thread Question:
What faction needs their model range expanded the most?


Imperial Army.
Vostroyans, Steel Legion, Valhala, Talarn, elysiansNormal Imperial Guard (no we got only cadians not Imperial Guard) , Mordians, Pretorians are missing.

Normal Imperial guard simply for two facts as you can make PDF regiments out of them and traitor guard.

After space marine's the imperial guard is the mots iconic and would also give a lot of room for diversity and show this.

Iron within brothers, I love my new camera

>>96009258
you have got 4 dudes, make one for each chaos god
or rather make 4 for the 4 chaos gods but all 4 are technically undivided and upholding balance in the pantheon

>>96009268
Beautiful claw arm anon!
Beautiful grimdark paintjob.

Think I'm getting close to finishing with base coats and the fabrics. Still lots to do on the metals, and lots of small details. Open to any suggestions on places that need more details picked out in other colors, I've been looking at it too long.

>>96009268
Looks really nice, anon! Love the vivid optics.

Are jets packs a big thing in the setting?

>>96009525
Usually they're called Jump Packs, but yeah, they're around.

is it good to play a melee heavy army outside of blood angels or templars? on paper it feels like you miss out on a lot of buffs

Painted the claws, the teeth, the tongue, corrected some mistakes and did highlighing on the faces. Kinda looks like shit, I wish I could paint. Forgot to paint the nails on one hand fug

>>96009580
It looks nice, anon, you can clearly paint. Nice color scheme too.

>>96009519
Fuck that's great. Obviously the base model is Cawl but I can't identify everything. I see Dominus parts, Kataphron armor plates, Ballistarii guns... is that a Penintent engine AND a paragon warsuit torso shoved inside of each other? Where did the larger clawed hands come from? Just Terminator lightning claws?

Anyways I got a start on my metamorph kitbash for the July project collage, before I go out of town for a week and won't be able to work on them. I don't think these guys will have much different a palette formula than Neophytes though so I'm fairly confident in cranking them out fast when I get back.

I need some ideas on doing the claws for this guy.
I'm touching him up right now and doing all the other little details so this is an old picture - any suggestions on what color to go for the claws?

>>96009614
Red or orange

>>96009596
>Is that a penitent engine torso and a paragon torso shoved inside each other
Correct! I wanted to take the "tech priests with multiple sets of arms" (the dominus and manipulus designs both do this) up another notch, and I found that the two combined made for a cool segmented look. I used the other PE for a gift kitbash for a friend's sisters, and I'm giving him the extra warsuits too. The big hands and pauldrons are from cataphracti termies. No dominus parts, actually, its a manipulus head and Cawl's arms, with the hand that holds the axe replaced with a ruststalker claw.

The big arm with the lascannons was probably overkill, but it made me smile when I added it. It's on magnets to make my life easier

Nice choice to use delaque as metamorphs. Acolyte kit has so many spare parts, it feels like you can get 2-3x the models if you're smart with the bits.

>>96009679
I think the lascannon is fine, though now that I see it from that angle, the fact that the spotlights are turned upside down bugs me a little. Great work anyways, though. Impressive how neatly a kitbash based on the codex cover came together, I would have expected it to need a lot more heavy lifting to get the vibe right.

>>96009258
mortis always made me laugh
its like he was judge deaths fanboy who made his own OC donut steel persona

>>96008823 (OP)
>TQ

>>96009751
Sisters of battle but worse are not an army and never will be

I feel like a lot of generic character models cost too much for what they are.

>>96009788
Leaders in general are costed based on the best thing they can lead, which makes them way overcosted for any other purpose.

>>96009787
>are not an army
???

>>96009848
Don't make me post codex Harlequins just so I can laugh at you

>>96009848
Could you post their 10th edition codex?

>hashing out how I want to finish the two halves of my Space Marine army
>realize the Honored of the Chapter box would actually be really good value to accomplish that
I guess I’ll get those two exclusive characters after all

What's the best hive fleet, both in lore and appearance and why is it Behemoth?

How was your last game 40kg? I got blown the fuck out by Eldar. 3 wave serpeants with fire dragons and reapers rained on my parade.

>>96009664
I'll give red a try, I have a nice metallic red that I think will work well.

>>96009948
Was a whole month ago now, WE vs Custodes. I won pretty handily after my opponent deployed poorly and I got a t1 charge in.

>>96009982
More like nurgel versus custodes

>>96009910
Behemoth is the brute force hive fleet.

Typhon sounds more interesting since it's the only recorded case of Tyranid cannibalism. It might be a rogue hive fleet.

>>96009988
>it's the only recorded case of Tyranid cannibalism
Am I misremembering or doesn't Kronos do that too?

>>96009997
Not Kronos, Hydra's shtick was cannibalism.

>>96009997
Sort of. Kronos has been observed consuming other fleets, but not by chasing them down, those fleets approach the area of space where Kronos is growing their planet-sized superstructure and allow themselves to be eaten.

>>96010041
No. Leviathan leaves behind pre-digested worlds for Kronos to devour since it cannot consume its preferred prey (Chaos Daemons).

>>96010060
Ah my bad.

>>96008954
I don't know about "most evil," but man, I hate how his overall character has been dragged through the mud over the years.

15-ish years ago the Emperor was basically a Paul Atredies type character. A guy who did evil things and allowed evil things to happen in order to (supposedly) prepare humanity for a happier fate far off in the future. It's never outright stated that that is how he was, but being forced to play 4D chess with literal gods and being able to see the future would at least somewhat justify and make sense of his actions.

Over the last few years though, writers just turned him into a petty idiot. He needlessly antagonizes his demi-god sons, gets all his best ideas from someone else, and then when Guilliman yells at him in whatever book it was (after Guilliman has woken up after 10,000 years) about why the Emperor even bothers continuing to serve humanity even while he has clear contempt for them, the Emp's response is literally:

"Lol, I dunno. Only in death does duty end so I guess I'm not dead even though I hate everyone I guess I'll keep staying alive and pushing humanity on. Lol."

>>96010105
We have been over this.
Roboute ponders the Emperor's motivations and comes to a realization that the Emperor loves the idea of mankind, not men as individuals. He does not love men. He loves mankind. If countless men (and women) suffer and die so that mankind might endure then so be it.

>>96010124
That's stupid, though. Why would you like the whole of mankind without liking any of the people? I mean, the people *are what makes up* mankind.

That's like enjoying a salad even though you hate lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and ranch dressing. It makes no sense.

>>96010146
Glassy eyed npc post

>>96010124
Does this technically mean that emperor is big picture incarnate to a fault?

Where the heck are Chaplains, Apothecary’s, and Librarians supposed to fit into the Chapter’s numbers? I figure they’re like Veterans where they’re attached to any Company/strike force that could use them at the moment, but Vets have their own company where their numbers are drawn, while the specialist Marines seem to be side organizations.

>>96010162
Okay, but it's true though.

They should have just simply never written any books about him at all and let him remain mysterious, but oh well. As with all 40k cannon you just have to pick and choose what you like.

>>96010166
Duh.
Master of Mankind and the later HH books and then the Siege of Terra books hammer in that idea.

>>96010176
I like all existing lore about my favorite faction. I just wish there was more of it.

>>96010207
Sorry I thought that the books made him. A retard.

>>96010172
Technically they’re outside the normal chain of command. Theoretically there’s probably anywhere form 60-120 spare mariens in your average chapter that aren’t battle brothers. They still do what lieutenants and sergeants tell them, but have broad leeway in serving their purpose. Bearing in mind that there are large human support staffs for these departments as well, which means their numbers might be lower than I estimated as a result. I wonder if anyone has ever portrayed a human apothecary equivalent in chapters that don’t have the expertise available.

>>96010146
When you’ve been alive as long as the Emperor has been I imagine your sense of time and scale will become warped to an absurd degree. It would explain why he was dismissive of things like Angron’s rage, sure you’re mad about it now, but how about 10000 years? His ability to personal connections to humanity will have atrophied over time, all he has left is the idea of mankind.

>>96010233
Oll Pius, who is the Emperor's Senpai Perpetual, never lost connection to his humanity.
Their interaction and conversation make the Emperor come off as a heartless prick unable to form genuine relationships with people.
His speech to Oll that he can create as many families as he wishes, since they were immortals, shows how much out of touch the Emperor was.
I think the murder of his father by his uncle stunted him mentally and emotionally.

Is there a guard and sisters of battle version for the legion of the damned?

>>96010275
Yes. Ghosts of the Imperial slain rose up to fight against heretics in "Psychic Awakening: Faith and Fury".

>>96010215
So it would 1000 Battle Brothers+the specialists? Would make sense with how Scouts/Neophytes don’t neccesarily have to adhere to the numbers restrictions (plus the Scout Company getting the Phobos units shoved into it beyond that) It does feel like the 1000 Space Marine limit of Chapters feel like more of a suggestion even amongst compliant chapters.

>>96010290
Thanks! Now what colors are best for undead vampiric skin from pale to dark?

Can blackstone be made into anti-daemon weapons like swords and bullet?

>>96010330
What and act like sea stone from one piece?

>>96010307
The 1000-man limit was lifted as soon as Bobby woke up and wrote his revision of the Codex taking into account the primaris they found in Cawl's closet and the faggy primaris aspect warrior squads.
Also, in the support marines numbers would also be tech marines and all the drivers and crew of their tanks and transports. To say nothing of flight crews for air support and Thunderbirds.

>>96009948
got pumped by eldar. still not used to how they work, but when they hit half of my shit dies

>>96009982
do you enjoy the WE detachment that allows you to take daemons? i played against it a few weeks ago and found it interesting

>>96009948
Won a FFA 4 player boarding action with my donut steel marines by the skin of my teeth almost entirely on kills today

How the fuck are space marine chapters even organized now that they've become aspect warriors?

>>96010450
I don't think GW has bothered to think of that despite having, what, 8 years since 8th dropped? And at least a couple years before that since editions take at least a couple years of work before they're released.
10th clearly didn't. but that's a mess for a different conversation.

>>96010450
They basically have them completely divorced from the tabletop. Marine loadouts are wildly variable among squad members, same with armour configuration. Tac squads are still the standard, they’re just primaris now a lot of the time.

>>96009948
Played Chaos Knights for the first time on Wednesday and played two games against Custodes. Game 1 I overextended, and my opponent rolled hot, got my ass beat. Game 2 was much closer. The game came down to fighting a terminator captain on my home objective, and once he went down, my 2 remaining brigands basically couldn't lose to the single squad of wardens 24 inches away.

>>96009948
Mine was on TTS, getting some practice with my CSM while I'm painting them.
Trying out Creations of Bile and I rolled +1 Attack and +1 WS.
I really like Warp Talons (posted my first in this thread already) so my test list has 20 of them.
My friend, playing Necrons, was not too fond of that many attacks constantly happening.

>>96010431
Dunno I was the one playing Custodes

>>96010559
Didn't they have a bit of lore about them specializing in a certain weapon and training endlessly to perfect it?
Which is the exact same sort of obsession that doomed the Emperor's Children back in the Heresy...

>>96009268
what exactly did you use for the backdrop? I've been having trouble finding a good material

>>96010450
They to have generally the same structure with ten companies, but it seems like the numbers are much more superfluous now. Gulliman seems to regret somewhat, just how restrictive he was with the Codex when looking at the novels, and has the Ultramarines openly working with their successor chapters now.

>>96010576
Did you let them borrow your prince?

>>96009948
Won a 4 way FFA with Eldar, was ganged up on in the first turn but kept just enough pieces each time to deny VPs and steal kills. Swooping hawks with Baharroth were the star by a mile, killing a Mutalith, Russ and Monolith and spending the last turn finishing off a Baneblade.

In a regular game they would have died on the trade, but because of their redeploy wording only the Necron player had a window to retaliate before I scooped them back into reserve. The irony was that he brought hypercrypt and proposed this interpretation himself.

>>96010576
oh right was your opponent borrowing your minis, or did you actually manage to have a game against another /40kg/ shitposter?

>>96010559
The Codex makes it out that they organize along the squads seen in the data sheets when they deploy. Although I presume this is for Chapters that have adopted the Primaris Upgrades fully. I believe the only official rules where you can run Primaris like the old Tactical Squads are in the Deathwatch Index Kill Teams.

>>96010105
>Paul Atredies
More like Leto II. Only when Leto treats humanity like shit it's explicitly done to condition them to hate tyrants and the very idea of everybody blindly following one guy. Big E's plan is the opposite, but with the same goal: save humanity. Problem is that one of these characters was written by a single, competent author and the other has been written by multiple people of dubious talent.

>>96009988
That’s interesting but any time a hive fleet meets they eat another, winner is the better designed strain.

Anyway I’m working on a squad of zoanthropes today.

>>96010766
To say nothing of the biggest book on his backstory and life being written by a hack faggot who is a fanboy for the other side...

>>96010233
Yeah, but he's also supposed to be a highly intelligent and charismatic leader. So there is really no excuse for fumbling his relationships with the 20 guys his master plan depends on.

>>96010725
He needed a second foot prince for the list he was testing so I let him borrow mine. I play daemons and custodes.

>>96008823 (OP)
>TQ
Less range expansion and more range refresh - Catachans
Are Eldar still using the same Guardian sprues from 4th edition?

>>96010851
>Are Eldar still using the same Guardian sprues from 4th edition
no

>>96010870
Huh, hard to tell.

>>96010829
That is the problem with horus heresy novels. An author can't write a character that is more intelligent than him based on his actions. They will tell incessantly that he is the smartest, the cunniest, etc. But then he never acts like than.
That is why the horus heresy novels are a mistake because is not only one intelligent characters, it is 19 primarchs + emperor + extras. Is not doable by people whose ends of surival is writing pulp books.

>>96010936
>cunniest

>>96009751
>>96009787
>>96009848
>>96009892
>>96009897
NTA but SoS are an individual faction in the fluff.
Were an individual faction in the game.
And by the thread question, is in desperate need of an expanded range.

>>96008823 (OP)
>TQ
Genestealer Cults, especially more bikes.

>>96011044
They were never a real army, they have a single unit
Even harlequins are more of an army

>TQ
Chaos Daemons getting new models would tell everyone they're not going multi-codex.

>>96010936
The cunningness?
The cuntyest?
Or did I really miss something?

>>96008879
Nah I fuckin hate God legions and even I'll admit they're stuck with half a fucking army like AoS factions. Really they just need datasheets from CSM back.

>>96010964
>>96011064
>Or did I really miss something?
That I meant "most cunning" but also that I REALLY need to go to sleep

>>96010146
People own andlt colonies and cherish it dearly, and would be devastated if most, if not all the ants die. Doesn't mean they care for each ant.
Also
>food analogy
Fuck yourself, fag

Probably gonna do some MANz for the collage this month. They're not heavy support, right?

I got pic rel (voume 1, the left side) and I'm kind of not sure what to do with it. It comes with a red speedpaint and Vince V says they work for glazing. I'm trying to move away from washing and just using them at the end as kind of a lazy glaze to tie all my layering together.

I'm assuming you're not supposed to use them out the box and they want you to mix them right? The dark green looks good for a shadow color on orks but the rest seems to be either shadow or highlights and no midtones. I see a lot of reviews on youtube but rarely anyone putting it into heavy practice. Just kind of talking about the quality of each paint.

>>96009156
Love the colors

>>96011117
think they were listed as elite in the 3rd edition codex at least. they are just nobz with better armour and nobz are elite so its fine

>>96011135
It appears that they do expect you to mix your shadows and highlight colours. There's also some paints designed for doing special effects, like rust. Looks like a solid paint set. It's supposed to restrict you to the Zorn palette, so you can make your stuff look like a John Blanche artwork.

i love green
green is the best colour

>>96011448
Do you have an army that is painted green

I FUCKING LOVE DROP PODS

Is the Emperors children detachment cracked for 5+ criticals?

>>96010450
It's all a mess because nothing about primaris was written with care or purpose. Up to the greats squattening of 10th, all the fluff entries for firstborn and primaris units were written as if the other half never existed, often contradicting each other.

>>96011476
Do you own any?

Bit of a quiet day here innit? Don't mind it all desu

>>96010681
it's the little photobooth from greenstuffworld, but knowing them it should be the same as the generic ones from aliexpress. They have two led strips but i recommend leaving the one in the back off, makes the background nicer for darker pictures.
With my phone it's not as nice though, the "real" camera does a great job of highlighting the model

>>96011537
I bought these three right before they announced the new ones and I have another two old ones from when I played 7th that I'm repainting too. If they give them dedicated transport or somehow allow a full drop pod army I'll get more but for now I can't really use any more.

>>96011577
Neat have fun painting them

>>96011474
my marines and my orks

>>96011117
>Probably gonna do some MANz for the collage this month
same, though I might flip to Tankbustas or Burnas

>>96011583
Thanks! Unfortunately one of the deathstorms was already assembled and assembled like shit if I may add (I had to rip out the badly glued seats to fit the missiles) so the doors don't really close. Looks like it was superglued so I might be able to pull it apart and fix it.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

these sisters of battle are way too small for such big bases. horrible mould line placement onthe sprues as well.

What if there was a hive fleet whose hivemind tricks psykers with fake distress signals to lure in more and more ships it consumes and puppets around to create the illusion of a battlefleet in need of reinforcements

>>96011627

Maybe it's a skill issue but I'm pretty fucking done with assembling basic infantry that come in 9 components per model.

>>96011640
Sounds more like a GSC thing, but neat idea.

Who are the Iron Hands of the Imperial Guard?

>>96011641
9 isn't really a crazy amount. It's just that new model sprues are cut up and laid out retardedly on purpose.

>>96011640
Not efficient enought, would not give a lot of food. It would be more some smallscale thing.

>>96011627
There's a special place in hell for whoever decided that sisters should all have split shoulder pads instead of them being a single piece you just put on.

>>96011448
>i love green
>green is the best colour
I love green and agree, but I can't seem to find the proper opportunity to utilize green. Yet.

>>96011655
Dunno about others but the 30k tactical squad sprues are so well designed. You basically don't need instructions.

>>96011655
>It's just that new model sprues are cut up and laid out retardedly on purpose.
I think GW does that on purpose to hinder kitbashing attempts.
Sure Kitbashing can be difficult if you want it to be, but GW seems to be doing everything it can to make it more difficult than it should be with the way that the model files are cut up to be put on sprues.

>>96011640
could see it as a splinter fleet gimmick

>>96011679
>but the 30k tactical squad sprues are so well designed
I know the beakie ones have a few retarded decisions like one of the shoulders being split in two

>>96011691
That's honestly a pure techincal limitation. If they aren't split the studs would look deformed like this.

>>96011685
It's a mix of things. Every kit has a "sprue budget" where X HAS to fit on exactly 2 frames or exactly 3 frames. It doesn't matter than one extra frame would be pennies per kit, those pennies must be pinched. But also they have deliberately cut up models retardedly to kill bits sales and make "spare bits" more individually useless.

>>96011685
Why would GW try to hinder the practice that forces you to buy multiple kits for a single unit instead of just one?

>>96011708
They're just evil.

>>96011710
If their evil comes from greed why would they do something evil that costs them sales?

>>96011718
Big companies like GW can often make mistakes in the pursuit of fulfilling it's greed.

>>96011708
What they don't want you to be able to do is throw together extra bits from kits you bought and get """free""" models out of it.

>>96011708
because that practice doesn't really exist, third party bits would replace it

>>96011725
You could never do that because they never put extra bodies on the sprues.

>>96011729
Third party bits can be designed to fit whatever sculpt GW makes. Bit sellers still need to buy a box from GW which is an extra sell that wouldn't happen otherwise. No kitbashing means they lose money.

>>96011733
bit sellers don't sell it there's no option that the kit doesn't provide immediately

no units you have to kitbash? no bits sellers
no rules for weapons that aren't in the kit? no bits sellers

Are missile pod crisis suits just discount missile broadsides or is there anything more to them?

>>96011746
Bit sellers still require a proper GW kit to use those bits on. They aren't losing sales because of them.

>>96009588
Thanks anon, I'll continue today.
>>96009596
Looking sweet, I'll get 4 more acolyte sprues today to have 10 of each variant but like >>96009679 said it comes with lots of additional bit. Is it easy to kitbash with delaque or other games like Wargames Atlantic where you can get 24 models for 35 bucks only? I may try to run Xenocreed since that detachment loves Acolytes.

>>96011758
deepstrike, double movement, more bodies, fly, different stratagems (sometimes)

How many points of painted models do you have?
I just did a rough count and I'm at 3000 for Orks and a little under 2000 for Dark Eldar

>>96011476
>I FUCKING LOVE DROP PODS
Drop Pod rules fucking when!?!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>96011804
>Define bits

Let's assume a GW kit comes with the following:
>5 bodies
>5backpacks
>10 heads
>6x left/right arm with melee+pistol
>6x arms with bolters
>1x of each Flamer/Plasma/Melta

Now if someone would sell flamers and plasma guns to equip all 5 with special weapons, then that's okay?
What if someone makes bodies and backpacks so you can use up all of the GW arm pairs? Also okay?
What if someone would then buy the bodies, and all the other bits from a bits seller, to make a complete miniature? Is he still just buying bits?

GW hates 3rd party, no matter what it is. Because in an ideal world for GW, anyone who wants a squad with 5 plasmaguns would buy 5 GW boxes with 1 plasmagun each.

>>96011899
What kind of rules do you want to see?

>>96011932
You think if GW squashed ChapterHouse in the courtroom, they would have went on a suing spree?

>>96011934
>What kind of rules do you want to see?
Anything that makes drop pods usable, because they are currently hot garbage.

>>96011867
Around 3800 of CSM (much of it is legend however) and 600 of admech

Just won an old metal fabulous bill. Gonna make an old grogy 2nd/3rd ed creations of bile-esque army with one of each cult squad. Well, if I can find the metal rubrics, they're really rare.

>>96011944
What makes them garbage currently?

>>96011899
My LGS has them in stock but funny the rules aren't there, unless GW will keep them as is.

>>96008823 (OP)
My game group is gearing up for a 9th edition crusade game with a starting power rating of 75. Were playing via tabletop simulator. I was thinking of playing night lords. Any advice on unit selection, army comp and battle tactics?

>>96011994
>What makes them garbage currently?
Overcosted, too easy to screen out and can't charge with units that deploy from it.

Holy shit is it just me or does 4th edition feel really soulful?

>>96012003
>My LGS has them in stock but funny the rules aren't there, unless GW will keep them as is.
They won't be selling many, if that's the case.

>>96009202
>>96011135
Thanks, using a new technique to highlight on these, stibling the lighter colours on them, really sells the dirty white im going for. But i wish I was better at getting a smoother prime, since the ivory I use over don't seems smooth enough.

>>96012120
Basically go back with the editions, they where more soulful but less practical. Just look at necromunda that is more build around old GW game philosofy. more soulful but usually to complicated for lots of players.

>>96011867
About:
>3.5-4k CSM
>a single chaos knight (magnetized weapons so points change depending on loadout)
>like 200pts of daemons (some bloodletters and flesh hounds for summoning back when that was a thing in 8th)
>1500 pts of votann

>>96011867
I dont keep track of 10th so I dont know any more
Maybe 7k marines
2k csm
2k orks
1k IG

>>96011867
~1500 of admech
~700 of tsons

>>96012120
>colonel schaeffers last chancers
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

>>96012120
>>96012190
Now here's a Killteam that needs to be remade in plastic.

>>96009268
Looks real grim, how do you make the armour look so textured?

>>96012197
Naw, enjoy your servitor kill-team

>>96011867
Close to 8k in orks. Maybe about 1k in nids if I put the leviathan half together

>>96011669
What armies do you collect?

>>96011867
A bit over 2500 for DG, something in the ballpark of 1000 for marines, 500-ish for Orks. Would like to increase the Orks numbers but man they take a LONG time to paint.

>>96012120
carnac you are a zoomer and you try too hard

>>96011867
about 1200 of GSC

>>96012245
Lies, there clearly isn't 1200 GSC models in that metal tin.

>>96012245
what magnets do you use? my models always fall off or slide around.

>>96012230
>Would like to increase the Orks numbers but man they take a LONG time to paint.
the easy way is to go vehicle orks, either dread mob or kult of speed

>>96010124
>'We have been over this' poster
>says something that's not retarded
Genuinely surprising.

>>96012245
Is that an old biscuit tin?

>>96012230
Orks aren't too bad, if you're gonna fuck around with the skin yeah it can take forever, I'd just find an easy paint scheme and do that

>We're getting mixed use Tact squads with the heavy/special weapons being replaced with gravis/phobos/tacticus specialists
Huh.

>>96012249
I got 40 neophytes, 5 flamer acolytes, 5 mining tool acolytes, 10 genestealers, primus, magus, a kitbashed reductus saboteur, 10 aberrants, goliath rockgrinder and goliath truck. Rockgrinder's blades are unattached. Genestealers are still WIP >>96009580 though so you may redact 150pts.
>>96012253
6mmx2mm ones under the infantry. Trucks have very large ones, like 20mmx4mm. I put the box in the backpack and unless I hit it around, they stick in place.
>>96012264
Got it from IKEA some time ago. Vinterfint it's called.

>>96012249
If i am not mistaken that are without any enhancements around 1240 points in the box.

>>96012270
>6mmx2mm
Thx but i meant more from what company they are and if they are some special type or just neodyn or somethin..

>>96012296
I don't know i got it from a random store, N35 I thing not the strongest N42 ones. I have some N42 as well and they're significantly stronger. N35 works fine on 25mm bases as they're shallow and the magnet contacts the metal base for a strong grip but larger 32mm bases are slightly taller so there's some gap and N42 might be better for those.

>>96012302
Thank you.

>>96011805
There's a fair amount of chop work needed to make the arms work because of the shoulder pads on the bodies, and in my case I went further and separated every paired arms so that I would have more freedom in posing them. But the arms are all you really need to worry about, and you don't need to go as far as I did and replace the gun arms for most of them. Even head swaps are simple, so long as you don't attach the neck portion the delaque bodies come with, neophyte heads fit almost perfectly - you may just need to shave a little bit off the bottom of the neck ball joint to get them to sit completely in the collar.

You'll also need to grab some 32mm bases if you intend to be honest about the correct size for metamorphs, the delaque box comes with molded 25mm.

>>96012249
That's because you're only seeing the blip tokens.

Cadia is dumb

>>96012302
>>96012308
If in EU I would recommend supermagnete, they both have sheets and all sizes of magnets and strengths

>>96011942
Absolutely.

Entire companies exist just to make money, based on GWs success and their IP. Each pack of 3rd party "not space marine" heads or shoulder pads is one less sold upgrade sprue or FW pack of shoulder pads or heads.

Ok so new Idea for my next Creastus I am ditching the White Angel and going for a White Wolf to go with my Black Panther. Should be amazing

>>96012257
It took me a looooong time to paint a Trukk, I feel like Orks in general just have so much detail no matter what you do it will always take a long time
>>96012268
I think the models are cool and like taking my time with the skin but I'll probably use a contrast paint and try to find a faster system when I get around to painting Boyz yea

>>96011619
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

Are there still eldar who sell themselves as mercs to random imperial commanders or have the eldar moved on/ the imperium been flanderised to be anti-alien to much for this to still happen

I want GW to come up with a new terminator armor pattern.

>>96012485
>Are there still eldar who sell themselves as mercs to random imperial commanders
Corsairs do this.

>>96012366
> Each pack of 3rd party "not space marine" heads or shoulder pads is one less sold upgrade sprue or FW pack of shoulder pads or heads
That is a fallacy. It comes from the assumptions that the guy buying the third party heads would buy the overpriced FW stuff on the first place.

>>96012493
Best they can do is make an update of the last RT terminator not yet updated.

I wish there was a 40k game that was more focused on the fringes.
Rogue Traders, Kroot Mercs, Chaos Xenos and more on barely 'neutral' stations, giving some freebootas a fortune in guns to go blow up some backwater planet the Tau are just starting to colonize

>>96012514
That' not new, it's and old pattern. I want a new pattern.

>>96012253
You need neodymium magnets, not regular ones.

>>96012521
What you want and what GW provides will never be the same. People wanted Saturnine and got extra large 30k Centurions wearing the shoulder pads of one.

lord of pox separate release?

"year of chaos"

>>96012553
>People wanted Saturnine and got
saturnine

>>96012493
saturnine

>>96012567
0/10, James.

>>96012580
tell the class how saturnine should have looked like then

>>96012535
They are supposed to be neodyn.but no idea really.
>>96012363
thx i take a look

>>96012493
Gravis is the next best thing.

>>96012592
You do know that thing is taller than a dreadnought, packs arm mounted guns like Centurions (like the fist detaches from the elbow and guns slots on, rather than having handheld weapons like all other terminators), and there's no way the marine's limbs are fully inside the limbs of the suit, if at all. It's closer to the Necromunda squat exo-driller than any suit of terminator armour.

>>96012498
Wish they kept this design

>>96012661
yes, and? that's what marinepigs wanted

>>96012701
>that's what marinepigs wanted
Where? Who wanted that? You find people requesting this prior to 3.0 leaks.

>>96012707
there are multiple third party makers of saturnine terminators, all of them make them drastically bigger than normal terminators, and the most well known modern depiction of one was from death of hope, which also featured the armor as dreadnought sized.

>>96012493
No more new things please. If they want to expand the Iron Hands they can re add the Gorogons from 30k

>>96012734
There are also multiple saturnine terminators that are just regular terminators. Even the big ones with carapace guns are still suits of armour, just like the one piece of artwork. None of them are like the new models. No matter how you try to twist it, 30k Centurions were never in the cards before this official release.

>>96012757
and yet marinepigs wanted bigger terminators and gw gave them bigger terminators, and made saturnine that looks exactly like saturnine

if you want to seethe, seethe at your fellow marinepig

>>96012506
Yes, but dont you think GW would think that way?
Even if only 1 out of 10 (or 100) people who buy a 3rd party upgrade for space marines would then buy a FW pack, getting rid of the 3rd party stuff entirely would be worth it for GW.

>>96012776
>can't prove anything
>just keeps repeating the lie like it means something
At least fucking try, man, this is just sad.

AVE DOMINUS NOX

>>96012801
>"Ave Domi-ACK!!"

>>96012517
Sounds a lot like the Blackstone Fortress boardgame's lore.

>>96012493
>Brother, I am impaired.
>Impaired how, brother?
>I cannot lift my arms.
>Neither can I, brother. It is how they made us.
>Ave Omnissiah.
>Ave Omnissiah.

>>96012517
You mean more stuff like Blackstone Fortress? Yeah it was great we got fucking Ambulls and Zoats back

>>96008853
Malcador.

>>96012825
>2 dead night lords
Wow

>>96012203
Stippling on typhus corrosion before priming, sanding the raised edges so it gets more contrast.
The rest are pigment powders and little spots of mud and oil paints in a kind of flicking motion with a loaded brush and an old airbrush needle, copied that from scale modelling people

>>96012830
>>96012841
bsf was soul I don't get how gw pulled it, everything from the art to the minis was good

>>96012640
Maybe they're too small?

Cabal of Chaos
>DP on foot, infernal avatar, mark of khorne
>MoP, Mind Blade
>Sorc in Termie
>Warpsmith, touched by the warp

>Cultists x10
>Legionaries x10, melee setup
>Legionaries x10, boltguns

>Chaos termies x5, combis and chainfist+autocannon
>Chosen x5, melee weapons
>Havocs x5, Powerfist, Lascannons+Autocannons
>Nemesis Claw x10, melee weapons+Heavy bolter
>Possessed x5

>Forgefiend x2
>Chaos Rhino for Chosen

Is this too much infantry? Should I make cuts to cram in another DP? Or another ranged psyker if I want more shooty?

>>96012830
>>96012841
Blackstone fortress was great when gw presented it as alien dungeon crawling, that is until they showed that most of the boxset was actually going to be yet more boring bog standard spiky imperial shit.
What a disgrace.

>>96012871
Play another detachment

>be me
>taking Salamanders to a big tournament this weekend
>see some of the lists that people are taking
>majority Knights and Death Guard
What the fuck has this game become?
How do you guys deal with games that you cannot win?
It's going to be a rough weekend...

>>96012881
Sadly Knights are just too OP

>>96012881
I simply don't play at tournaments, hell, nowadays I barely even play, I end up preferring painting and assembling stuff while chatting with the local game store's group.

>>96012860
Yeah totally. If GW and Henry was smart they would follow bsf of how to do 40k, its a lot better than mainstream 40k imo Even the trailers for it was great, I found an archive of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfg9GzyXI24
For some reason GW has unlisted every single cool trailer from their youtube thats older than 2 years. Even the really cool weekly tarot thing they did for Arks of Omen. I guess to GW they served their purpose as advertising trailers and aren't needed anymore but its a real shame all the nice voicework, art and sound effects is lost now

>>96012877
im likely autistic and decided to play this one

>>96012888
>Sadly Knights are just too OP
The truth has been spoken

What are YOU working on, /40kg/?

>>96012908
I'm trying out flesh shades because I want to make a cute Archon using some Wych parts as my first Archon

>>96012893
>I simply don't play at tournaments, hell, nowadays I barely even play, I end up preferring painting and assembling stuff while chatting with the local game store's group.
Unfortunately, I have already paid for this event. So, I'll be going.
Maybe I should take a break from playing after this event. 10th has been rough for space marines

>>96012136
>to complicated for lots of players.
And thank Christ for it.

>>96012908
gonna paint some knights this weekend

>>96012888
>lowest model count
>most economical point for dollar army
>most broken army
Honestly it's poetic. GW invalidated their entire money milking system with one army.

>>96012908
My Old world army

>>96012908
Good old Stormy

>>96012825
>Getting killed by an npc faction
Lel

>>96012870
Maybe to small (should be 8x2mm never checked but still are bigger than 6x2), maybe to weak (maybe fake, they are from amazon)

How long do I need to put a model in the freezer for thr superglue to break?

>>96012908
pic related came today. I feel bad falling for the meme since this is going to be at least three months of work and I am likely never gonna field it

>>96012928
I run Sally’s too and got so tired of it I started a tau army for tourney play. Even the small ones are infested with the most sweaty fuckers imaginable.

>>96012908
Line painting skittles and a technoarcheaologist, pain

>>96012984
A few hours at least so at best do it over night.

>>96012982
These are the ones I'm using:

>>96012987
Those instructions fucking suck and you can find better ones on reddit FYI

>>96012908
My age of sigmar army. Also known as tzaangor.

>>96012900
List looks fine, will you play on TTP?

>>96013016
yeah I figured as much. it's a travesty that GW can't be bothered to print a decent color manual in one of the most expensive models they sell

>>96012908
i've got some black templars that frankly im not really vibing with. trying to convince myself not to sell them to go in on the new space wolves instead.

i typically play dwarfs, so the braids and axes and runes are really speaking to me.

>>96012908
I love sword brethren, I do. But their capes, which are also pinned to a pauldron, means you need to pose their arms right or else the cape cant be "slotted in".
I need some workaround to do unique poses. Quite easy to do, but a bit annoying, still.

>>96012908
trying to work out what colour robes to use on my jade greenish and white marines. my burgundies suck and would have looked a bit too dark angels anyway. I don't want to have to buy more paints tho.

>>96013041
will likely run a demo or three before comitting, 1k list first for physical tourney (starting 40k scene) and i cooked one where i could easily go into Bile or Raiders or the sudo-IW one or Vashtorr one eventually
>same prince
>mopx2, mind blade and eye of zdesh
>same cultists and melee legionaries
>same chosen and possesed
>1 fiend
im tempted to forgo 2nd Mop for psyker-smith and chosen for havocs since I know for a fact that there will be SW with some dreads and custards and from what I know I will have to shoot through them rather than punch through them and Fiend not killing itself too quick would be helpful

>>96012908
Drawing, well coloring currenly.

>>96013004
That's expensive. I recall buying like 2.000 magnets for like 10 dollars including shipping.
Granted it was aliexpress

>>96012842
Malcador was ultimately a good guy.

>>96013094
Price shouldn't be an issue.

>>96013064
also since I'm already pondering, is there ever a point where I want the DP to have tzeentch mark for 6 shoots? well-rounded prince seems like ok on paper but then the game rewards overspecializing in 1 thing to bruteforce median dice results on other overspecialized units

>>96013118
khorne for meta, tzeentch for fluff

>>96012954
I'm pretty sure that the latest round of points changes to knights came entirely from someone higher up in the chain demanding that they see an increase in knight sales, so they basically said "make it so that everyone can take an extra of those big models people already have" and whoever is in charge of points just fucking dumped the points and used the toughness reduction (which they entirely compensated with extra wounds) as an excuse. The 40k meta goes to complete shit whenever knights are strong because so, so many people have knights and they cause warped responses because they need such specific answers.

>>96012908
White Wolf Cerastus Knight Lancer

>>96013129
dunno, ask /hhg/

>>96013125
well the fluff of /my dudes/ was already being followers of Encroaching Ruin and had variant lists with obliterators so I could kinda cope with khorne prince (even tho infernal avatar is a magic buff too from the blurb) leading psykers

>>96012908
Chaos predator, couldn't finish it in time for June assignement.

>>96013112
But it si a consideration.
Rule of Acquisition 82: The flimsier the product, the higher the price.

Iron Warriors range when?
Salamanders range when?
Alpha Legion range when?
Night Lords range when?
Grey Knights refresh when?

>>96012908
Kitbashed a thing for fun to the point I forgot to post the Tank Commander in the back for last month's collage. Other than that it's working through the backlog and priming stuff all weekend.

>>96013214
>Iron Warriors range when?
never
>Salamanders range when?
never
>Alpha Legion range when?
never
>Night Lords range when?
never
>Grey Knights refresh when?
11e

>>96013219
Looks cool, reminds me of Titanfall.

Gw cares so little about fluff dark angels don't even have interrogator chaplains anymore

>>96013253
They are no different from regular chaplains.

prediction for the reveal in two more weeks its going to be nothing , isn't it?

>>96013270
they look cooler

>>96013313
so proxy it

>>96012908
Glowy breakas

>>96013307
All the new Space Marine 2.0 stuff Valrak has been ranting about for the past month.

>>96012987
It's honestly still a really cool kit even if the instructions are frustrating.

>>96013307
aos chaos dwarfs, release window is late autumn into christmas

>>96013307
Space Marine 2.0 (A bunch of combat patrols and some character refreshes, along with Assault Termies).
The new CPs are built for the new CP successor in 11e
Vottan vehicle, unit and character
Hint of Malys

>>96013307
Russ

>>96012908
Painting a leman Russ tank! And also putting together and painting some knock off steel legion minis

>>96013214
>range
just make some upgrade sprues and a couple of unique characters for the different legions. Not everything needs to be its own army.

>>96012908
painting lenses on my poop eaters before basing

>>96013307
Carcharodons are getting models, each marine will be a mix of different marks to represent their scavenger nature, probably a release of Tyberos could go eaither way with his size, making him larger than normal since the secondaries think he's a gaint marine bigger than even big marines like Huron and Abaddon.
Might be a kill team like the night lords might just be an upgrade sprue for their chapter

>>96013094
>Five bucks a magnet
Whew. I hope they were big

>>96013158
ngmi

Lorelet here - what's the difference between a chapter and a legion?

I thought all the primarchs were leaders of legions - so Russ is leader of the Space Wolves legion, which is like 20k marines. Then there are 20 chapters within (1K marines). However, I see there are is a chapter master for the "Space Wolves Chapter", Logan Grimnar. So are the space wolves a chapter or a legion? Who is the legion then?

>>96013352
No giant hat no buy

>>96013446
It can be both

>>96013307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhtqd8FR4nE
Based on the hats in the video
>1st hat: Inquisition
Likely: Updated (but still complete dogshit) rules for Imperial Agents
Hopium: actual tangible update to that live action Eisenhorn project that may or may not be the same thing Cavil is working on.
>2nd hat: Votann
Likely: single character model or vehicle
Hopium: Second wave of models to give them a proper range.
>Tomb Kangz
likely: BL slop about Settra
hopium: An actual Hierophant model that's not just a conversion of the Tomb Giant
>rustic tricorn
likely: BL slop about TOW Empire
hopium: rerelease of the 6th-ed era Empire Infantry with the poofy sleeves
>small top hat
chorfs?
>brown wizard hat
New Radaghast model for MESBG?
>tall top hat
Chorfs confirmed.
>jester cap
Murder Clowns getting a Kill Team?
>Pirate bicorn
Vampire Coast coming to TOW before Kislev
>cowboy hat
new outriders for Cities of Smegmar
>traffic cone hat
Wahammer skin for VLC player?

>>96013446
dunno, ask /hhg/

>>96013307
Votann Biker character for all the votan players who own 12-18 of the pioneer bikers

>>96013453
the inquisition hat is a deathwatch kill team
the egyptian hat is for the necron kill team against them

>>96013446
legions don't exist anymore in 40k, it's only chapters, sometimes people still refer to them as legions because it's shorter that saying "first founding chapter" whenever you have to refer to the ones with the same names as the original legions.

>>96013446
Legions were 100,000+ marines during the crusade.
After the Heresy, Guilliman wrote his book to break the legions into 1000-marine Chapters so no one person would have that much power.
When Guilliman woke up, he revised the Codex to allow more dudes.

In Russ' case, he would still be the leader of the Space Wolves, if he was around. He took off into the warp and every leader of the Space Wolves since has had the title Great Wolf and High King of Fenris, but would still defer to Russ, the Wolf King, should he ever return.

And until Primaris, Space Wolves couldn't have successors because all attempts to do so would mutate out of control into wulfen.

>>96013464
I thought it was the general Ordo Xenos logo. Which yes, Death Watch is a part of, but so was Eisenhorn.

>>96013407
modern sculptors struggle with not melding together pieces that would've been separate and posable before and upgrade sprues mess with that idea

>>96010105
>Paul Atredies
>Guy who did evil things and allowed evil things to happen in order to prepare humanity for a happier fate.
You're talking about Leto II, Paul was an extremely selfish bastard, dude knowingly condemned billions to death just to get revenge on his fathers murderers.
He could literally see the future, he knew exactly what would happen and he did it anyway.
As for the Emperor, he canonically does want to save humanity but the Emperor doesn't care about the happiness of individual humans at all, just the continuity of humanity as a whole.
He's also human himself and as a result flawed, he makes mistakes and his future sight is not perfect. He gambled humanities fate on the great crusade and he lost. now he's just stalling for time and hoping his remaining loyal children can pull something off.

>>96013519
>Paul was an extremely selfish bastard, dude knowingly condemned billions to death just to get revenge on his fathers murderers.
and still didn't have the balls to actually commit to the golden path like Leto II did

>>96013537
>"Turning into a giant worm monster and ruling a thousand years then getting murdered is scary ok!"
Paul Atredies, probably.

>>96010105
>the Emperor was basically a Paul Atredies type character
A failure, who was so ashamed of what he did and too scared to commit to the Golden Path, since he had to let go of his humanity with the sand trout skin thing he allowed himself to be captured by his enemies as a hostage for decades before being unceremoniously stabbed to death by a nameless crowd virtually offscreen?

The Emperor was more competenet than Paul and he arguably didn't have prescience like Paul did. Althogh the Emperor still seems to be some sort of hivemind

>>96013519
>he knew exactly what would happen and he did it anyway.
No, he saw what could happen and no matter how he tried to avoid it the events would unfurl to result in jihad.

>>96013650
if you make the ground muddy enough, marines would be completely unable to advance

I like to think the Tyranids and maybe also necrons are invisible to the Emperor sight, in the same Navigators were invisible to Paul. Since in Dune someone with complete prescience can't see the life of someone else with priscience even if it is far weaker. Perhaps the Gold Path of the Emperor would have worked, humanity could have foguth off chaos and the other xenos threats. But he didn't account for the souless necrons and tyranids (in the sense they are hivemind and lack individuals and are souless per-se not literally).
Also I realised that Leto joined with a worm as his 'inhumane' transformation to led humanity. While the Emperor had to join with arcane DAOT tech and is equally an abomiantion, the loneliest person in excistence and trapped in his new form of corpse and metal.

>>96013658
If you make the ground muddy enough nobody would be able to do shit

>>96013595
every single path he observed ended in Jihad.
But every path he observed was a path where he lived, where his mother lived, and where the harkonnens ate shit and died.

Any path where he killed himself in the desert would obviously be a path where Jihad never happened but that would mean letting the Emperor and the Harkonnens win.

He wasn't trying to avoid the Jihad at all cost, he was trying to have his cake and eat it too.

we know this is true because Paul was supposed to be worm boy but he forsook that destiny successfully and his son ended up needing to do it instead, He had agency and he chose genocide for vengeance.

>>96013663
We need a virgin/chad meme of the GEOM and the GEOD respectfully, they both went hyper tyrannical to save humanity but Letos plan actually fucking worked.

>>96012908
Gonna start putting together some termies for the july collage. Today was a supply run.

>>96012908
>carnac samefagging 15 times
Lotta people for such a dead thread

>>96013699
True, have a hollow knight White King and GEOM meme. Both failures, but at least the White king died with his people and civilisation didn't have to witness them devolve into something worse and at odds with everything he held dear

What is the best primer/surfacer to apply on Forge World resin miniatures?

>>96012908
still painting my skitarii rangers and about to start on a tech-priest after

>>96013214
Right after Deff Skulls, Novokh and Biel Tan.
Palette swaps do not warrant ranges.

>>96012908
I've got the rest of my first box of Warp Talons primed and curing on the table while I continue to work on the first one to nail down how I want them to look.
Then, after the Warp Talons, I'll do one of the HQs I primed.
1-3 will be Master of Executions.
4-6 will be the Terminator Sorcerer.
7-9 will be the Chaos Lord.
0 will be all three.

>>96013741
Damn carnac must have a shitload of armies

>>96013746
I find ironic how the reason the White King fucked up is that he couldn't manage to treat his weapon as merely a weapon, while the EoM did the exact opposite mistake.

>>96013129
He failed, which is a wrong that makes any moral judgement nothing but a footnote.

>>96013797
Deffskulls need a new named character after squatting grotsnik. A breaka / tankbusta character maybe? Also would be good to see nazdreg return, all bad moons have is a character that was insta-legend'd

>>96013758
Shit I hated painting my rangers more then the skittles, alot more work on the heads and galvanic rifles

>>96013806
>sorcerer

Is that the hardest of the lot?

>>96013824
He's a big guy standing on a big rock and I stuck a bunch of skulls to his base.
He's going to be a challenge for sure.

>>96012908
I...essentially have to paint an entire deathwatch army by september progress is glacially slow and my damn list keeps changing

>>96012908
still trying to get paint off greenstuff
if this next soak doesn't lift it away I'm just ripping it off and resculpting it

>>96013820
Grotsnik is getting a whole book, they aren't going to come up with a new character, he's just on the bench until they get around to remaking him in plastic.

>>96012908
Finishing lad #5 of the CSM kill team so I can start my terminators for the July collage

>>96013806
Detachment?
Post pics

>>96013821
Almost halfway done but yeah, those rifles are what kill me the most. Gonna also be painting some Kastelans after who aren't as excruciatingly detailed as a breath of fresh air.

>>96013519
>Paul was an extremely selfish bastard, dude knowingly condemned billions to death just to get revenge on his fathers murderers.
you literally misunderstood his entire character and completely ignore the second book
>He could literally see the future, he knew exactly what would happen and he did it anyway.
again you misunderstand the entire concept of how spice precognition works and how paul is deeply conflicted with his visions

either you're bait posting or you haven't read the books and just talk out of your ass

Just have to finish my hospitaller and some cherubs today, i have some sacresants arriving tuesday for the collage.

>tfw this time last year I had zero points painted
>now have close to 2k painted

Was only recently that I started to ramp up painting shit, once I started having games fairly often I forced myself to paint more shit as I can't stand seeing greytide / primed minis on the table

>>96013904
was for >>96012908

>>96013907
What army?

>>96013877
In front is the one Warp Talon I've been working on when it's been slow at work. Someone here gave me the idea to do red claws so I'm working on that for him today, then I need to do the teeth around his jump pack and do a little clean up.

I'm planning to play Creations of Bile.

You'll notice that the non-HQs wear chains on their pauldron. The fluff I have for my warband is that they're all thralls to a daemon called the Oracle, which is bound to a ship called the Gilded Cage. High ranking members of the warband are allowed to remove their Chains of Servitude.

>>96013899
>again you misunderstand the entire concept of how spice precognition works and how paul is deeply conflicted with his visions
NTA and I haven't read Messiah, but can you elaborate on this?

>>96013924
Orks

>>96013936
Based.

>>96013971
Nice nice

>>96013936
Nice. I'm also about to start a creations of bile army

Very dead thread today. I guess the americans are busy celebrating instead of being here.

>>96014218

FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEEEE

New reveals on the 18th
Death Watch and Harlequins Kill Team box
Lots of stuff for Marines

Mutalith or Defiler for my TSons? Just for general usage to slot into a list

>>96014218
I dunno we had a fair few people post the minis they are working on, I'm guessing a large % of them are burgers

>>96014337
I found mutaliths to be a fucking pain to play against. 3 different range profiles and a shitload of attacks in melee

HARLEQUINS

>>96013797
>Novokh
A Necron blood priest could be quite something.

>>96014337
dont punish yourself with a defiler and im pretty sure that even the vehicle meme list uses at least 1 mutalith

Talking about defilers, I'm guessing if you made several charges that turn against someone running one, you would have to pick the unit that charged it to fight first otherwise it gets a counter offensive strat for free

>>96014348
By that logic then Obliterators are good too.

>>96012908
Brain is scrambled from having a newborn but working on my Saint Potentia in like 15-20 minute sessions for a Crusade at the end of the summer

>>96014442
I don't play chaos so I wouldn't know, but it saying that they are one of my favourite units, although it looks like gw have done a fantastic job butchering them since 3rd / 4th. Remember when they could use any weapon from the armoury or whatever the fuck it was called? Shit sculpts but, I'm yet to see a decent one

>>96014444
>Brain is scrambled from having a newborn
Prion diseases are no joke

>>96014348
>>96014407
Thanks anons

Dark Angels players: how necessary are Deathwing Knights? It seems like everyone runs 2-3 squads, and 20-40% of your list for that much is a huge commitment that I don't see other space marine lists doing

>>96012982
>>96013004
>>96013094
>>96012253
The issue isn't size in terms of width, it's thickness. You want the magnet as close as possible to flush with the base rim. The magnet should either be touching or nearly touching the surface you are magnetizing the models to. I buy from magnet baron, because their thicknesses are specifically chosen to fit GW bases and have never failed me, but you can just use their measurements and buy elsewhere.

>>96014540
Dark angels players: are dark angels cool as fuck or gay as fuck? Is there any reason to pick them over black templars considering they’re both knight themed?

>>96014559
dark angels are knights specialists, black templars are knights horde

>>96014337
Mutaliths are completely broken

>>96014540
They are just fucking annoying to deal with. -1 to damage, 4 wounds, fairly strong in melee and that shitty 4+ fnp against mortals which negates grenades / tank shock. No idea what a character can add to the squad but I'd imagine it's more bullshit

>>96014559
I don't really feel strongly about space marines but I think it's silly to say they have the same theme. Black templars are crusader themed (cringe), not knight themed (based).

>>96014559
I think this general has established that blood angels are the gayest chapter

>>96014392
A flayer themed wave would be cool, even just a bloodpriest cryptek and a flayer lord with a cloak of flesh alongside a detachment that makes flayers Line would be great for supporting it as a more full army theme.

What's a hard counter against deldar?

>>96014569
Huh okay that’s a pretty clear and easy to understand difference, though idk if BT are horde like enough for that
>>96014578
Crusaders are knights, dummy. Nah I get what you mean but they are both similar in theme, I just said they’re the same for simplicity’s sake
>>96014587
Hmm okay. Who would be the next gayest?

>>96014594
A brain

>>96014605
Probably dark angels

>>96014608
Well Mr strategist tell me how you would play against them with your army, whatever that army may be

>>96014614
GodDAMNIT FUCK

>>96014625
Drop Inceptors into their Scourges then run them over with tanks

>>96014559
Dangels are cool knights with armour themed around Gothic architecture.
Black templars are cool knights themed around crusaders. I'd say it's best to pick the one you like aesthetically so you're more excited to paint

Fun fact: Commander Dante's first name is Lois. Like Lois Griffin. Commander Lois.

>>96014594
Have you considered 2000pts of dreadnoughts

>>96014655
Compelling, thank you anon. Dark green is a nice color now that I think about it

>>96014375
Recently picked up a Solitaire and Voidweaver, gonna try to figure out a scheme now that won't make me want to kms

>>96014575
while I understand that, it doesn't seem to be doing DA lists any help, they're at like a 38% winrate

new one less dead
>>96014798
>>96014798
>>96014798

>>96014667
Who the fuck names their family "Dante"?

>>96013699
To be fair, Leto II didn't have ravenous daemon gods plotting against him to undo his plans for humanity. Or fucking Erebus.

>>96012908
Just finished my librarian and now I need to go back to my Assault Ints and finish them off from last year. After that comes either my BA jump Chaplain or Sternguard squad. Fuck I also have a good old DC boxnought to paint too...

>>96014594
Indirect fucking shatters them. Autocannons also eat their vehicles and infantry alike.
They also just have no good tools for dealing with monstrous units.

So basically Mortarion and three PBCs will be an impossible wall for them