SOUL, SOULLESS, SOULLESSER

Ragebait aside, idk why James keeps insisting on trying to sculpt faces. They're not good at it. Helmets are easy to make look good on a mini.

>>96011936 (OP)
Middle is NOT soulless.

>>96011936 (OP)
>no cloth
>cape and tabard
>cape, tabard and banner
What cloth will they add to the next model?

>>96011992
Fashionable, yet tasteful lingerie. You won't be able to see it under the armor tho.

You know what? I actually kind of like that face. Yes it's weird looking, but that's kind of the point. Space Marines are fucked up, genetically altered, murderous fanatics. They shouldn't look anything like normal, healthy people even if it is "relatable".

>>96011936 (OP)
>SOUL, SOULLESS, SOULLESSER, OP
FTFY.

>>96012240
That's a fair read, but personally, I think GW just can't make faces. When I first saw Severina Raine years ago, I thought she's just supposed to look kinda clapped, maybe an older, somewhat rugged veteran. Makes sense, right, commissars are supposed to be scary and most of them are fuck ugly.

Then I saw the cover of her novel and realised that the model is just horrible.

>>96011936 (OP)
Metal, Plastic, GI Joe

>>96011945
There’s a few good head sculpts in AoS (albeit definitely not all). I dont think they are unable to do it, they just choose to make them ugly as an “artstyle”, even if it contradicts the drawings.

>>96011936 (OP)

I like that even when GW is remaking classic minis, they still manage to insert a tactical rock.

>>96011945
>>96012272
Note he doesn't have eyebrows. Games Workshop has some fucked up order to exclude eyeborws from faces

>>96011936 (OP)
old marines are tragic next to the new ones, I threw all mine away

>>96012327
I've learned to love the tactical rock to the point where I'd be upset if the trend was phased out. It's like, an anchor, something steady and sound to prop us up, even in trying times.

>>96012357
I personally think its fine on unique characetr models but its retarded on basic infantry. For example its shit on striking scorpions.

>>96011936 (OP)
i hate bases with raised surfaces like rocks in pic related. its like theres just a conveniant rock to put one foot on at any location of the battlefield you move to

>>96011936 (OP)
The newest one is by far the best model of these three.

>>96011936 (OP)
pokemon be like XD

>>96012449
Implying it isn't stuck to the bottom of the boot.

>>96011936 (OP)
MIddle one is best

>>96011936 (OP)

DAE think it's gay when miniatures actually look like they're in the middle of a battle and have some points of interest to show they're a heroic character?

Everyone should be posed in the most boring way possible because boomer miniatures have to be cast in a single piece.

>>96012586
They exist because zoomers are inept and cant make the poses themselves as god forbid they kitbash or convert it themselves. People were able to make scenic bases long before this trend. Its awful on any model you want multiple of as they end up looking 90% identical.

>>96012748
nah this is bullshit. miniature painting and modelling is about 1000x better today than it was in 2005 or whatever you most dearly remember. just go compare golden demons.

>>96012339
bro you DONT want to paint eyebrows unles you are a level 45 high painter.

middle is the best of these 3 models and it's not close

>>96012256
They regularly botch female faces, too much contrast or something. It makes their features look jagged.

>>96012932
The newer lilith is such a downgrade

>>96011945
most of the players ive met just use the helmets anyway; few want to try painting faces (me included)

>>96013040
I love painting faces, it's fun, always try to include a couple of non helmeted heads

>>96012586
Yes, it's gay and they should stop. Also there should only be one character per base and individual people shouldn't ever be mounted on anything bigger than 50mm.

>>96011972
Marine hoofs are soulless.

>>96012767
Youre projecting mate. I never said it wasnt better overall now. What I am criticising is the rock being on nearly every fucking model.

>>96011936 (OP)
far right's powerfist really ruins the model.

>>96011936 (OP)
That rock. That fucking rock.

>>96011936 (OP)
define soul vs. soulless

so is the rumor that the one behind these posts is a janitor in Poland true?

>>96014948
Idk man it's impossible to tell who spams the same kind of post multiple times a week. Is it unrelated retards who think it's funny? Is it one very dedicated retard who isn't satisfied with the number of reactions he's gotten so far? 4chan has a way of turning one into a schizophrenic shouting at his own echo in a dark room.

>>96011992
A hood

>>96014948
I keep seeing this but like one out NINE /tg/ janitor was doxed and he wasn’t the problem jannie like the others are

>>96014980
I'm certain you're all bots

>>96011945
I'm gonna tap the sign again and say they really need to get better at -painting- faces.
>>96013040
I used to be the same until I put some earnest effort into painting bare heads and they turned out better than expected, now I'm face-pilled.

>>96011945
The sculpts are fine, it's the 'Eavy Metal style that's the problem.

>>96014914
There's no definition. It's another buzzword retards use in exchange of anything useful to say.

Op is too stupid to explain how the difference models are of lesser quality so instead of doing any mental heavy lifting, he pushed the burden on to you to interpet why those models are bad.

>>96011936 (OP)
The middle one is the best, it has powerful lines and clear design language, but isn't bogged down with distracting detail, and the warrior is wearing his goddamn helmet.

>>96015868
I actually think the tabards and cloaks and other cloth bits on modern marines are really cool. I'm a sucker for the warrior monk aesthetic they have going on.

>>96012449
And the alternative of always having a completely flat location on any battlefield?

>>96012256
>>96012932
Reminder

>>96011936 (OP)
Actually I'm gonna be the one to say it. I hate most Primaris, but I like this one. I actually think it does have soul. It's one of the only Primaris models I have ever seen about which I can say that.

>>96014914
Ez
Before vs. On/After 7th Edition.

>>96014914
Soul decreases notably around mid 4th ed 40k and is totally gone by 7th.

GW listened to feedback from fat American children, that couldnt hold a paint brush and found it hard to move models around without dropping them.

Now you all play with Duplo40k.

t. 2nd ed superior game enjoyer.

>>96011992
Iron Halo.

>>96011936 (OP)
Any reason this couldn't have been a refreshed Pedro Kantor?

>>96023466
>Any reason this couldn't have been a refreshed Pedro Kantor?
It's not meant to be Pedro kantor.

>>96015918
Right is pure SOVL. Left is soulless coomerslop.

>>96011992
Seems like you are too young to remember, but originally he came with cape and banner. GW didn't include these in the MTO when they sold all the old captains again

>>96015813

Faces and bases. Get both half decent and a middling paintjob on everything else becomes passable

>>96013040
Faces are actually easy though. Its just like painting any other bit of the mini

>>96015813
That paint job is absolutely insane and it STILL looks bad.
Its not the painters fault

>>96021618
>>96021920
That is an incredibly gay answer. please take the cock out of your mouth and explain why.

>>96023572
Where's the banner?

>>96024253
Fucking child.
Almost every character came with a plastic banner pole in their blister back then, even those who didn't need it like pic rel

>>96024332
>fucking seething over nothing on the internet
You need to be 18+ to post here.

>>96024332
>plastic banner pole
Which was on a backpack of its own. So, officially, out of the box, in the best possible case where they put both backpacks into the blister, the model had option between a cape or a banner. Meaning it still had one piece of cloth at best, while the updated model had two (cape and tabard) and the primaris has three (cape, tabard and banner). It's still a steady increase in the amount of cloth on the model, no matter how much you fake grog about it.

>>96024201
No.

>>96014914
Halo Combat Evolved vs Halo Infinite
Jurassic Park vs Jurassic World
CoD World At War vs Ghost

>>96024393
>Which was on a backpack of its own.

Ah, I see 10th edition kid never heard of putting that pole onto the backpack with the cape.
You either glued it, because it will break off eventually anyway or you easily pin it

>So, officially, out of the box

Sir? "officially" "out of the box".
When all these parts are delivered in 1 blister: you can use them, it's official.

Or how do you explain that with the primaris version the backpack, cape and banner pole are 3 seperate pieces?
How in the world are you able to combine them?! With black magic?? Is that legal?

No seriously.. you do know that you are allowed to put these extra pieces on your models, right?

>>96024882
>Shit vs shit
>Shit vs shit
>Shit vs shit
do better

>>96027884
Amazingly poor taste, must be Indian.

>>96027884

>>96015918
the one in the drawing is making a super neutral non expression.
It's like when fags whine about women (real or in games) getting uglier and then compare a super neutral expression + ton of makeup in some cover picture vs some casual screenshot from a game/video where the woman is laughing or mid speaking.

>>96012327
I think at this point it would have been a mistake not to include a tactical rock on a character mini like that.

Hower I've got about 5 other complaints.

>>96014914
Left: WW2 vet who fought and earned medals wearing them in veteran parade
Middle: Kids of WW2 vet wearing his medals in veteran parade to remember their father even though they're not veterans themselves
Right: Great grandkids of WW2 vet wearing his medals while recording a twerking tiktok meme video

>>96011936 (OP)
First update retains the pose, and adds the cape and tabard billowing in the same direction to enhance it. The second one isn't nearly as focused, and results in a significantly weaker pose and silhouette.

GW's new sculptors achieve a fantastic level of detail, but they lack the fundamentals in design.

>>96028363
Then they shouldn't have given her a ridiculous expression like she's trying to ook like a monkey. That's still their fault for an ugly looking model.

>>96029431
>and adds the cape
iirc it came with a cap backpack in ye olde days, or at least was paired with it frequently enough.

>>96023938
THIS

>>96029431
>GW's new sculptors achieve a fantastic level of detail

They increased the size of models by 100%, added 20% more detail than 90s models, and you're sucking their dick?

>>96030757
>and you're sucking their dick?
Anon how the hell did you manage to miss the parts of that post where he says that they're worse than the old ones?

>>96029984
You're right (and IIRC the Warcom article actually mentions that the first model originally had a cape but it's gone missing), but the old ones hang straight down while the first update it's curved to work better with the pose.

>>96011945
Almost all new sculpts have a helmeted option. Including that mini (which is a mk7)

>>96023528
>coomerslop
You'd masturbate to THAT?

>>96028363
The model still looks like shit. It's not that deep, anon. We don't give Reddit Gold here for pseudo-intellectual essays.

>>96029486
>Then they shouldn't have given her a ridiculous expression like she's trying to ook like a monkey.
This is like 90% of Warhammer models across four different universes

>>96011972
It’s worse… it’s Finecast

>>96028052
>>96028322
Got you to reply, and unironically the only one of the six worth your time is the original Jurassic Park movie.

>>96023528
You are not fooling anyone here with this post.