Thread 96012921

Warping Formats Edition

>Bans (New)
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>What is EDH?
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>WotC's War Crimes
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>Previously
>>96008403

>TQ
What do you think of the Drix?

What is it exactly?

>>96012921 (OP)
They just don't play test shit right? Like that card or pic related, they made aggro weak and now they make a better Lockdown...

>>96012957
Zerg Sliver.

More eldrazi.

>>96012921 (OP)
This is overhyped. Two life makes it significantly harder to combo with than gravecrawler.

>>96012921 (OP)
this might be the enabler that finally allows prized amalgam to be played in a less all-in graveyard deck

>>96012957
a thinly veiled Alien reference, of course

>>96012962
Extremely funny that they print the perfect Cori answer right after banning it. That said, as a filthy red player I'll take this over Lockdown, at least artifacts are easier to kill.

>>96012988
I don't think I will.

Episode 10 of the story. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/edge-of-eternities-episode-10 One more left after this.
>The Seriema's approaching Infinite Guideline, and Sami sees a monstrous thing outside, asks what's that, Alph has an answer of it being a mass leech, but he doesn't know much beyond that
>Sami goes "well I guess we'll wing it"
>As they get closer, Guideline sends an automated warning of some sort that they're violating Pinnacle space
>They have to brake at the right time to avoid irradiating the entire station, and Sami would rather not
>Tan says he's picking up battle traffic being broadcasted, they tune in and it's just some Monoist chanting
>Alph has no idea what the fuck it's saying
>Meanwhile, the fighting outside is getting worse and worse, many civilians fleeing while holy war wages
>Sami's kind of fascinated by the fighting, but Tan remarks that the chaotic nature of the fighting means it's tricky as hell for them to get through to Guideline
>Sami asks Haliya to contact her people, she does, getting in touch with a nearby radar ship, communicating with another ship to inform them about a new contact
>And then one of the ships is exploded, so good work there
>Tan remarks about the horrors of space battle, mostly about how just completely unknown things are for the most part
>Haliya's not sure she can take even an hour of this
>The battle continues to get worse as they get closer
>One of Guideline's radars locks onto them, and Sami sends out the first of their recorded requests for help
>Then Alph sends out his own request to the Monoists
>And it's Haliya's turn, and she's hesitant
>She's having an internal debate/crisis of faith/mental breakdown before Alph shakes her out of it
>She then turns to him and mentions the bombs she planted on the ship way back when, she COULD still just blow this whole thing up
>Alph asks if she didn't say she'd help them, that she'd take on his case, is she not of her word?

What is even the wincon in Standard Omniscience decks? Not all of them play Founding the Third Path after all.

>>96012977
Eldrazi are gay.

>>96012995
So a sliver, because they're the movie monsters of the Edge

>>96010674
Answers?

>>96013045
>She asks if it's that easy for Monoists to just make choices without regrets, he answers he's not sure, because he couldn't ask his sister if she had regrets because she's in a black hole
>Alph continues, saying he doesn't regret losing his faith even now, because he lived to doubt, to wonder if he was really doing the right thing, so now it's her chance
>She says a Sunstar knight would never let this happen, he says maybe she's not cut out to be one of those, maybe she doesn't have to be certain of everything
>And as a final push, he makes a beseechment to her as a man seeking the aid of a 'knight' and that's enough to properly push her, because she did agree to take his case
>Back in the cockpit, Alph asks Sami and Tan if they knew Haliya had bombs on the ship, Tan says they found them and threw them out when the Illvoi were fixing up the ship
>Haliya finally makes her broadcast request
>While that's going on, Sami asks Alph what he's going to wear, because he needs armor
>They don't have anything that'll fit him on board, but they have something at least
>As they get closer, Sami wonders if this entire string of events is entirely the Endstone's doing, but resolves to think about that later
>The viy controlling Guideline asks if they want mallowmass, Sami politely but firmly rejects that because if they accepted, the faiths would realise the Endstone wasn't going to go to them
>Haliya's the only other one in the cockpit, and she's needing something to do, so Sami sets her on toggling a switch
>Sami explains that Alph and Haliya are gonna go grab the warp ferry they need while Sami distracts Pinnacle by telling them the exact truth of what's happening because Pinnacle's REALLY good at spotting frauds
>Haliya and Sami briefly talk about when they both first entered Sothera around Guideline, Sami talking about their old ship, the Wurm Speaker, which went to the Wurmwall
>It did not come back, few of its crew did

>>96013059
There's many different ones cuz you can just run one-ofs in the sideboard. You can bounce Jeskai Revelations, cycle Marang River Regents, do the mill combo of your choice, build up a storm count. If you got Arcavios in hand then it's GG.

>>96013076
>Sami tells her she can stop toggling that switch, she asks what it does, Sami says it counts how many times it's been toggled because of course they'd have a fucking fidget toy
>It does seem to have helped Haliya relax at least
>And then they get to Guideline, as they get close, there's a brief ceasefire, ostensibly to evacuate survivors, but really so both sides can try to get the Endstone
>Sami and Tan, in combat armor, greet the viy, who says it'll inform Checkmate Mantis of their arrival in unusual circumstances
>And as they get through the airlock, hey, there's Mantis, who is apparently the ideal of classic Eumidian beauty, as much as Sami understands
>Mantis lists off so many problems with letting the Seriema in, because it's a piece of shit running without a valid flight plan, then asks if Sami's there as a guest or a thief
>Sami says they're not there as a guest, then just explains the whole thing about the artifact and why they're there
>Tan, to help that account, offers a memory crystal of everything the Seriema recorded back on Kavaron
>Mantis is wary, but Tan assures her it's honest testimony, and then notes that she's aware of the Endstone by name
>She explains they know everything that happened on Kavaron already, because Vondam came to confess, and she further says the Endstone should be given to the only group that could be trusted with it
>Meaning the Drix
>Sami internally thinks that's actually reasonable, and asks where the Drix are, Mantis informs them one named Barrow is already on Guideline and Sami panics
>Mantis continues that Barrow seems to have no actual interest in the stone itself, but has been preparing a LOT of weaponry, to take the Endstone by force if necessary to get it out of the wrong hands
>Sami even says they know they can't trust their own impulses, and the safest choice IS to hand it over to a group so large the Endstone can't meaningfully alter them, like Pinnacle

>>96013122
did the stone roll over time to before meeting with tezzeret or was that revision 14?

>>96013115
"This game isn't for you (or anyone really)." is now JotC's motto.

Eldrazi chads you think we will become Standard playable after EOE?

>>96013122
>Sami asks if Vondam advised them to retrieve the stone with lethal force, she says yes, Sami asks why they haven't yet, she says she's a good person, and before she can carry on, things go dark as the station is attacked
>Mantis asks if this is Sami's doing, they say no
>There's tiny holes being put into the station, not even big enough to depressurise things, and a wave of potential matter, which seems to be an artificially created thing of stuff that COULD be, existing only as a waveform until it doesn't
>Sami chimes in, saying that they think they're being seasoned
>Cut to the broken-faith pair who should just kiss at this point
>Alph notes that the ferries are... Not there as they both drift slowly to the station
>Haliya says they say them on the way in, so the ferries must've been moved inside
>And then they both spot the leaks that just happened in the station
>Alph notes a mechan which resembles something from Susur Secundi pumping something into the station, which is probably what did that
>On the other side, the Sunstar are making their own play
>Haliya spots what Alph claims is one of the Monoist's mines, but to her looks like a betentacled monstrosity glimpsed through bits of dark space
>And whatever that thing is, it's going right for Guideline
>Back to Sami 'n Tan, and SOMETHING's coming in, and they see it, and it's... A lot. It's described as a mass of things, tentacles and floating shards and who knows what else (it's an Eldrazi of course)
>Mantis initially tries communication, which obviously fails, and then has the mechans open fire, which DOES hurt it, but it doesn't STOP it
>Then it grabs at one of the mechans, and... 'Licks' it and turns it into a weird pile of messed-up chalk-like stuff
>Sami and Tan decide to run, Tan seems honestly fairly relaxed about this whole thing
>Back to Haliya, trying to radio Sami, to no avail

>>96013130
Revision 15's only change was where the crystal landed on the map, I think. I believe Tezz left with Mm'menon.

>>96013186
>There's also a LOT more of those things approaching the station, Haliya asks what the Monoists have done, Alph has NO idea
>They make contact with the station, and scramble in to the hangar
>And there's the ferries, and Alph's probably overheating worse in his armor than she is, so she pushes him along, while claiming she needs him along for the ride, just in case they run into one of those things
>He assumes just for somebody to feed to it while she runs, but no, she says it's because she NEEDS somebody to protect or she doesn't know what to do
>Alph contacts the viy of the station, which informs them of the attack underway, and asks if they're attackers
>Alph says no, but asks if they can get a ferry transferred to them anyway
>Viy asks for clearance, Alph doesn't have it, so the viy can't help
>Alph then asks if there's codes to override clearance, the viy says there are, but they're highly restricted 512-bit lattice-based ones, whatever that means
>Alph then goes "Okay, ready for the code?"
>Then Alph spouts off a random series of numbers, which the viy informs him is entirely wrong
>Haliya goes "Oh, you thought you'd use the Endstone for this, it'd choose a future where you DID randomly stumble on the code"
>They get into an argument about paradoxes and time travel which ends with him claiming Haliya sounds like she's having a stroke, which she retorts by saying he jacks off too much, then they kinda laugh at that
>Haliya says "Alright, fine, go back, get the Endstone"
>He protests going alone because she's gonna go make her report to the Sunstar, and he says the stone might vanish her if they're not together
>She asks if he thinks it did that to his sister
>It'd 'explain things' to him, but she just points out that the simpler answer for his doubt is he never believed in the first place

>>96013243
>And she says she might not believe either, but she's still got to go make her report, because she has to know if Vondam was influenced, and if he WASN'T, then the Sum is wrong
>And then Vondam shows up behind her to answer that very question
>He did in fact act in accordance with the Sum, except when he let her go, which is eating him up
>He's got his weapons drawn, and basically says "we can take the Endstone now and make this all right with the Sum, you and me"
>He implores her to come home

>>96012921 (OP)
>warp cost 4 on colorless
>put free 4 mana cost into play for colorless
>then get to cast the creature again
>warp cost B and 2 life
>play creature from graveyard and attack with it
>goes to exale and you get to cast it again
What's next? Are they going to print Grief but with warp-B, pay 2 life instead of evoke?

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Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>96013070
Playing a land is more like opening a credit card than exploring.

>>96013059
>What is even the wincon in Standard Omniscience decks?
anything that mills a player on etb or that triggers when an enchantment etbs

>>96013269
>monoblue control
>rdw
So fun :)

>>96013381
:)

Hot take: Omni decks are shit, the true boogymen of the format are Vivi and Bx decks.

lol you can really just hop on Arena and bully Standard players with UW Control

>>96013638
No one has ever felt bullied by you.

>it was just a bunch of Eldrazi all along waiting to strike

They couldn't make this any more lame if they tried. One spoopy Eldrazi that gets referenced is one thing, but oh look, there are a shit-ton of them attacking the space station.

Are you excited for the Endstone to be delivered to Bolas on Monday? Fuck sakes.

>Drix
The sidekick from Osmosis Jones?

>>96013642
>Gay Bolas back
I rather he stay out not gonna lie i dont like him being gay.

>>96013641
as the best Magic player on this site, if I play against Arena players they have definitely lost the matchmaking lottery.

>>96013642
It wasn't 'just a bunch of Eldrazi', they seem to 'just' be the attack method of the Monoists. The Endstone's master we still don't know, and I'm leaning more towards Fomori because they've been completely absent otherwise.

>>96013664
>as the best Magic player on this site

>>96013660
I'm fairly sure Bolas being free won't actually matter for a while yet. His whole thing is planning and taking his time, he won't just immediately be the next problem.

>>96013670
I keep hearing about Fomori but when the hell they will appear?

>>96013678
these are the people who use 4chan now huh?

>>96013697
I mean, probably here. Or the Vaar mentioned in the side-story are them or an offshoot thereof. The Planeswalker's Guide did mention a Fomori-Eldrazi war, and the Drix seem to have lived through the last stages of that war, so there's probably something there. The Endstone doesn't feel 'Eldrazi-like' enough, it feels manufactured, created, so I'm betting on the Fomori.

these black decks are such a meme if they don't draw Unholy Annex

>>96012988
>Creature balance drop fun green broke
The hivemind has spoken, Creature balance is fine and more big green creatures are demanded.

>>96013796
Hey at least Diamond Weapon isn't a complete embarrassment (like the rest of FIN).

who's farming boxes?

DO THING
DRAW CARDS

>>96013828
Would be a lot more worth it if it didn't take them 4 - 6 months to ship them to you.

>>96013664
>I'm the best
>because I'm good at arena
Brazilian standards lmao

>>96013856
Insect bros... Our response?

>>96013856
bros...

>>96013694
Bolas was in gay baby jail for all of a couple years. It's kinda shitty to be so hard up for overarching threats to bust him out so soon or arguably ever. Unless they're gonna have him job to someone newer.

>>96013856
Counters and card draw? I have a bad feeling about this...

>>96013856
Goes nuts with almost every single hydra, still trash because hydras suck

>>96013894
6 years is quite a bit, but fair. At least Phyrexia, if it comes back, will be in a different form, it won't just be The Praetors Again.

>even montolio is now playing lurrus

Everyone at Wizards needs to be IN JAIL. NOW

>>96013272
You didn't answer the question.

>>96014041
Do you think I care? Ask less retarded questions if you want less retarded answers.

>>96014047
Okay, why has nobody buried mark rosewater in a shallow grave yet?

>>96013828
EV is way worse than the collector's box
boxes are worth $200 instead of $1200
but are only twice as easy to win
I think $200 buys you 40,000 gems. which is enough for 5 attempts.

>>96013856
not my style but I'm glad that MTG art has been getting better every year

>>96013856
Playable? I dont know. Will i brew with it? You can bet on it.

>>96014073
Because like Delver players, his shifty kind hates Death and Taxes.

>>96013856
this seems very strong

>>96014111
Who doesn’t love the 1cmc 3/2 flyer that demands your deck be 40%+ instants and sorceries

I'm building an EDH deck on MPCFill and I'm looking for a way to generate artworks from photos using AI or similar tools.
So far I've tried feeding MTG cards as references and the photos into ChatGPT saying that I'd like it to mimic the style only and keep the composition and tone of the photo, but I'm getting pretty lame results.

Would anyone know a better way to accomplish this? Maybe some better free AI tool more specialized in this kind of thing, or some filter?

>>96014168
/g/ has had local diffusion threads for years now at this point. It is trivial to get a local public Stable Diffusion model set up provided you have a video card with at least 4 GB of VRAM and obviously the more VRAM the better / faster things will run but 4 GB is enough for it to run.

>>96013856
>shortly after I pull apart counters EDH deck they print this
>feel 0 desire to rebuild it because EDH fucking sucks now

>>96014284
Post list I’m looking for more counter blitz cards

>>96014284
>playing a deck relying on +1+1 counters and therefore fills the table with her faggy pebbles and colourful dice
kys please

>>96013856
Wtf, good art on a modern mtg card?

>>96013856
ACTUALLY goes straight into my green commander deck

>>96013856
This is the kind of art i can get behind and not the stupid shit they usually deliver.

>>96012962
>its an artifact and not an enchantment which red can actually deal with
>only hits artifacts and creatures, not all nonland permanents
>has marginal upside for eight (8) fucking mana, which will only ever be activated when the game is already over
sure anon, it's totally better than lockdown, you fucking moron

>>96014453
>thinking this retards who dwell in these threads have a clue at how evaluate cards, let alone standard players

>>96014453
>>96014494
sure faggots, no one will put that card in their decks, surely this another "draft chaff" but you are right absolute clueless retards that post here literally never played a game of MTG in their lives.

>>96014511
Retard-kun they are right though. Artifacts are way easier to interact with

>>96014511
I bet this retard thought lightning was a playable card.

fuck scalpers

>>96014530
>>96014533
Screencaping this.
In one month we will see how many decks use the card, see you there for some laughs garbage players.

>>96014511
>>96014530
god... and i thought /mtg/ was a bad place to discuss magic.

Magic needs Master Packs
Dedicated packs with no rarity weighting that can contain literally any card from the game's history, including the Reserved List.
Every card has a 1.0 weighting, so a Craw Wurm is just as likely to appear and Jace the Mind Sculptor.

>>96014600
enjoy your $500 a pack, paypiggy

>>96014623
Oh right, WotC did that already with proxies...

>>96014573
I don't play standard or care about the card, I'm just making fun of the guy who spammed CSC screencaps taken after the fact being wrong about a card.

>>96014623
The packs could be half off the normal pack price and they would still be a sucker's bet because of how much unplayable chaff is diluting the pool.

Yet more leaks. Feels like there's more for this set than usual.

>>96014712
These would be miserable to draft with but damn if I wouldn't try it a few times

Naruto and Super Mario Bros. set soon fellow MTG enjoyers!

>>96014716
This on a manland.

>>96014716
yeah sure, let me turn all my token producers into synthesizers

>>96014716
I will make it work.

>>96014750
The aura would fall off once it turns back into a land

>>96014750
You mean on an artifact land

>>96014768
>>96014784
With the right setup you just need it to trigger once I guess.

>TOKENS TOKENS TOKENS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MAKE IT STOP
STOOOOOOOP PLEASE
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>96014802
I hold no grudge against Tokens in general but I am happy I took my time back then to build a Core Set/Horizons Pauper Cube with no Tokens and no counters other than +1/+1 included.

>>96014015
He's played Lurrus for a while

>>96013856
>>96013883
Labman's erection grows.

>The first time you would..
>Do this only once each turn...
>The second time you cast a spell each turn...
>... draw your second card each turn...
>... for the first time each turn....

>>96013856
>Insects/green will have a +1/+1 counter theme
It's been a while since insects have cared about +1/+1 counters. Could be interesting.

>>96013872
I'm not too worried, they've put out a ton of insect already art and we've definitely seen some insects that are clearly legendary creatures. I just hope most of the bugs aren't locked to the precon.

>>96014716
>enchant scene of the crime
>play racetrack
>play another land
>racetrack triggers, makes a token land
>racetrack triggers again, and will make infinite lands that you can use to draw as many cards as you want
standard legal btw

>>96014923
>The first time you would...
Reading the card (sometimes) explains the card.

>>96014923
fuck, just noticed "the first time ... each turn", wotc deserves death

https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/standard-league-2025-07-049382
>all midrange slop
>CTRL+F: Omniscience
>0
They call him 007
0 relevance
0 top 8s after bans
7 remaining dickriders

Give me Awakenings
Give me F.I.R.E
Give me turn 4 wins
Or I retire!

>>96014716
>>96014754
Mmmmm, Mister Mark? I can see this two cards maaaay be a little problematic lol

>>96014992
>B-b-but one league didn't have it!
60% winrate.

>>96014992
I will take this metagame over Cutter/Aggro hell any fucking day of the week, my brother in christ.

>>96015007
>one league didnt have it!
None of them ever had it ever since the bans
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/standard-challenge-32-2025-07-0412801637
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/standard-league-2025-07-039382
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/standard-challenge-32-2025-07-0312801623
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/standard-league-2025-07-029382
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/standard-challenge-64-2025-07-0112801190

The deck folds in half the moment game 2 starts. It only steals wins in BO1.

Odds on station being a real thing?

>>96015062
Zero.
Below zero, in fact.
Unless a Station does something more impressive than Consulate Flagship murdering the shit out of people, none of them will see play.

>>96014992
See they put a tranny on the card because obnoxience is for boys that cut their dicks off.

>>96015062
>Sorcery speed
>8+ power investment on every one showcased
Zero, and you should be sodomized for even suggesting it might

>>96015062
No fucking way something that needs 12 motherfucking counters even if they remain and whatever could be playable. In fact not even this things would see play.

The power of this set is in Warp and Eldrazis.

>>96015062
very small
station creatures are essentially worse vehicles, you'd much rather have a low crew cost that dodges sorcery speed removal
station lands might have some potential but only as a 1-of or 2-of

>>96015062
There will probably be at least 1 playable power outlier(smuggler's copter), or some busted high power warp creature will make them viable.

Cat/oven needs to be deleted from every format as it makes simple combat an impossible means of victory.

>>96015098
>shit white card is shit
Oh hi Slopoke

>>96015142
nah cat oven making creaturefags seethe is super based
if you want combat to matter go play pauper or limited lmao

>>96015163
>nah cat oven making creaturefags seethe is super based
This is your brain on WotC cum.

>>96015142
>i'm too dimwitted to do anything but play creature and swing

>>96015206
>urr durr me sacrifice food
>durrrr me bring back cat!

>>96015142
>Coping about Cauldron Familiar
Is this 2020?

>>96015234
Anything that makes creature spammers seethe is a good design.

>>96015249
>Anything that makes creature spammers seethe is a good design.
Your gallon of semen, sir.

>>96015254
It's odd how you have a gallon of semen lying to offer to people.

>>96015254
BRO IS THE SEMEN THIEF

>>96015254
How many dicks you sucked for that gallon anon? Be sincere to the class.

>>96015142
You will take my chinese style pizzeria from my cold dead hands.

>>96015142
I assume you're talking about Pioneer here since I never see Cat/Oven anywhere else, what creature deck are you playing? Humans?

Does anybody have that image of the super complex interaction with this card that involves layers?

>>96015535
yes
>casts pic related

I forgot how much I hate deep cavern bat

Pavper players look like this!?
But /TroonGoyim/ told me they where all brown shitskins!!!!

>>96015725
premodern players are spics
pauper players are eurochads

>>96015361
Cats > Humans

We won catniggermen, dogfags lost.

>>96015062
I'm still sad this never did anything

Did station really need to be a sorcery speed thing if they made the requirements so fucking high?

>>96015853
can't have the good stations before star trek/star wars SL special drop :)

Is John Carter public domain yet?
When are we getting a public domain magic set of pulp novels like that and Tarzan?

>>96015853
The mechanic same as with Crew, Saddle, Reconfigure or Equip is an absolute trash made solely for limited.

>>96015907
It doesn't even seem fun in limited and at least shit like job select was fun in FF limited.

Taking turns off slowly building up charge counters sounds like the opposite

>>96015898
They can't cause he would have to be black and that's racist.

dimir midrange got top 6 https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/standard-challenge-32-2025-07-0412801647

>>96015929
In the Disney cartoon they made La have dark skin with white hair.
This was before clown world so I believe they did this because someone who worked on it was a man of culture

>>96015951
Dimir is just a deck of good cards so I'm fine that it's good, but God am I tired of it.

>>96015951
Dimir Midrange 1-6 (Some Cecils here)
UW Omni 7th
Dimir Midrange 8
Mono white tokens 9
Cool Golgari deck got 10th (Jenova)
Mono white tokens 11th
Boros convoke (Dragoon's Lance)

This card seems really good to me in Standard. I'm winning with it a lot but don't see other UR decks playing it

>>96015951
I fucking love Kaito and Cecil thoughover so I like the results. Its not like this deck would last either, all the amazing removal will rotate in a month

>>96015997
Its not a UR card anymore. Its a UW Bunnicorn/Convoke/Zoetic Glyph card now. This and Dragoon's Lance get run there because the deck can just turn it into a beater with Glyph or Filched Falcon in a pinch

Remember when they said if you ban Monstrous Rage, they'll just play Dreadmaw's Ire?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>96016025
RDW/Izzet Aggro is fucking dead not even the UR deck with Vivi is aggro, and for fuck's sake was a due: You literally ban the three cards that let the archetype run obviously will change or die.

>>96014716
This is cool as shit. It's a long shot but putting it on Synthethizer is gonna be fun as hell. I'm gonna try and make it work with Temur Battlecrier somehow.

>>96016025
There were people seething when they banned Heartfire Hero over Manifold Mouse. They dont realize that the deck can just run Slickshot over Manifold and that theres really no good substitute 1 drop for Hero. Cacophany Scamp isnt a Mouse so you can go turn 1 Hero turn 2 Manifold, valiant double strike. The mice package has been heavily kneecapped because of this so now the red decks are back to prowess shells which are a lot more manageable

new bug just dropped

>>96016025
Yes that was kind of predicated on Cutter and Mouse still existing too.

>>96016138
neat

>>96016138
goes straight into my commander lands matter deck

how is Gruul Delirium doing?

>>96016138
Insect bros this looks kinda cool right? For a green card i mean

>>96016253
Solid tier 2. Ends the game in 4 turns if it doesnt draw bricks. Some prefer just going Gruul Aggro because that doesnt fold easily to GY hate. Placed 2-3x top 8 in recent challenge and leagues

Is this real? https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/standard-challenge-32-2025-07-04-1
Because is kinda depressing ngl

>>96016296
What do you mean depressing?
Dimir midrange failed to place 7th. I think that looks like a healthy format.

>>96016296
Its the only untouched deck. Im just surprised Oculus wasnt in, I fully expected that variant to dominate

>>96016296
It is depressing that people still play standard

>>96016296
I don't know enough about MTGO challenges, why are there two sets of results?
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/standard-challenge-32-2025-07-04#paper

>>96016296
Woooo Dimir king, bb! Suck the big midrange dick, fags!

>>96016296
>>96016304
Jim Davis was right.

>>96016138
>>96016284
>Finally get a really-pushed insect rare in standard aside from Webstrike Elite I guess
>It's 4 mana and does nothing on it's own
Fuck. I doubt this thing will be good outside my critter commander deck. Kinda reminds me of the days I used to run a green Utopia Sprawl insect deck in modern that splashed red for Shared Animosity and Faithless Looting, but unfortunately most of the pieces are locked out of pioneer. If EoE gives us a cheap mill insect to pair with Molt Tender, we'll probably have a good shell for standard, but so far, this just looks like the kind of card Szarel wishes it was.

>>96016296
Don't worry too much about it, it's just Sheoldred making a comeback now that she's the most toxic creature in standard again. Most of the deck rotates in August.

>>96016296
Let the dimirfags enjoy their slop for a month

>>96016296
I'm not worried, when rotation happens 1 month from now, dimir is losing:
>cut down
>go for the throat
>sheoldred's edict
>anoint with affliction
>gix's command
>sheoldred
>gix
>faerie mastermind
>ertai resurrected
>underground river + darkslick shores

a lot of these are individually replaceable but losing all of them at once is gonna force the play patterns to change significantly

>>96016296
Why Kaito and Sheoldred are allowed to exist, coexist and don’t be addressed as problematic cards will never cease to amaze me

>>96016296
>massive bans
>white still can’t crack top 8
I never get tired of being right about white

>>96016356
What was his alternative?

>>96016384
>

>>96016389
That we are all lazy so cutter was ok. Obviously the faggot would probably ban rage leave cutter and call it a day

>>96016384
Actually monowhite tokens control top 8'd twice already, also made magic youtubers upset that they actually have to PLAY the game

>>96016389
we are lazy niggers who are too dumb to find the actual best deck or counter
Roots failed so he was wrong

>>96016396
Those are archetypical Fake White decks. Try harder.

AMOGUS

>>96016411
AMOGUS. xD

>>96016406
Being an unfun faggot is white does best so I think its good representation

>>96016296
>>96016338
Why are these results so different? I don't get it.

>>96016411
sus

>>96016416
Theres 2 leagues iirc

>>96016416
no one plays standard in MODO. League results are worthless

>>96016411
Whoa, sus

>>96016416
sometimes we get more than 1 challenge in a day, so there's two set of results

>>96016421
>>96016423
those are challenges, not leagues

>>96016440
So why is one so ridiculously skewed compared to the other?

>>96016448
Its probably the same reason why Modern Challenges either have a good spread of archetypes but suddenly have 7 Boros Energy decks in top 8 during Wednesdays. You have more dimir midrange players play on certain days

>>96016456
How big is the mtgo playerbase these days anyway?

>>96016448
because different players play different decks at different times for different reasons anon
the new meta isn't even a week old, even if there is a clear best deck, people are going to try different paths until they can be certain about what that is

>>96016411
I hope they do an Among Us UB

>>96016521
pick the cards to retrain for an among us UB

>>96016464
I can tell you roughly how many people are playing leagues in each constructed format, but I don't have any data on challenges
>Standard League: 200 active players
>Pioneer League: 115 active players
>Modern League: 1100 active players
>Modern Gold League: 150 active players
>Modern Friendly League: 230 active players
>Legacy League: 450 active players
>Vintage League: 110 players
>Pauper League: 540 players
>Duel Commander League: 150 players

Technically there's a bunch of people playing casually in the tournament practice lobbies but I wouldn't put their numbers above the 50~60 range.

So by format popularity it goes something like this:
Modern >>> Pauper > Legacy >> Standard > Duel Commander > Pioneer = Vintage

How does one make New Capenna become a good plane?

>>96016577
Include the police faction.

>>96012962
been out of the loop for a while, why is the latest set Grok

>>96016589
>been out of the loop for a while, why is the latest set Grok
Magic: The Gathering is in space now.

>>96016403
Does he not understand that real people have actual jobs and can’t spend all day thinking about wizard rectangles? If my options are “spend 80 hours trying to break the meta to win a single tournament with like, $500 in prizes max” or “practice the best existing deck for an evening or two,” as a full-time job haver, I know which one id pick

After all he did for Karn, that stupid hunk of silver couldn't be fucked to retrieve Venser's corpse?

>>96012921 (OP)
>steal FF characters
>Steal FF named mechanics

>>96016667
Are you kidding? Look at Glissa, look at Slobad. Karn has a very consistent methodology for old allies.

>>96016667
No.
Everyone else gets to get better. But Venser just doesn't.
Why?
Fuck you.

>>96016411
Reasonably flavorful implementation of the concept. I would let other players convoke it too, just to really sell it, but I understand that's a concept they'd probably save for commander.

Dimir Midrange is fine because so much is rotating. The red stuff wasn’t

>>96016138
You are now husband and wife.

Burn spell warp dragon

>>96016698
Its fine because just let me fucking have this one OK???? I opened a bunch of Kaitos just let me have fun goddamit its only for a month

I wanna make a combo deck with this

>>96016577
New set focused on exploring Old Capenna.

>>96016713
Feels like haste will make or break a bunch of these warp cards, unless they have nutty value.

>Omni kikery kikeing up arena again with kikety kike sheeny shekel shylock kike kikery kike kikeness
>Oy vey Awakening was the problem goyim!
God I fucking hate kikety kike blue kike cards

>>96016725
It's cracked.

Bros.
Warp is literally just Adventure.

>>96016756
>Warp is literally just Adventure.

>>96016752
Loses to dimir midrange.

>>96016756
It has interactions with sac, flicker, and creature cast triggers.

>>96016765
These are not good things.

How to fix New Capenna: all the mob families are not ethnic stereotypes. One is the Italian mafia, one is the yakuza, one is a black gang like the crips. Corrupt cops are another faction

>>96016756
it's a combination between adventure and evoke

>>96016771
>being less parasitic is not a good thing

>>96016784
All the upsides of both with neither of their downsides, in fact.
WHAT COULD GO WRONG.

>>96016786
How can one be less parasitic than something that is not parasitic at all?
Learn what a word means before using it. please.

Warp is worse than evoke. Evoke is broken now because of all the spells that let you preemptively revive a creature when it dies

>>96016793
Ah yes. All those decks that cast Reanimate on Offalsnout. Truly a threat to the world.

>>96016725
sweet

>>96016797
It depends on how pushed the creatures are and some will be fire up the ass. They did break modern like this once

>>96016803
>They did break modern like this once
Ah, yes. Modern. The format with Reanimate.

>>96016797
yeah Reanimate + evoke creature has never been a viable combo

>>96016806
>A mechanic has support cards therefor it is parasitic
Kicker and Cycling bros........

>>96016817
Yes, those are parasitic cards. It's not a binary situation, there's a full spectrum. Fluctuator in a set without any cards with cycling will basically do nothing. Same with rumbling aftershocks. Same with lucky clover. Just because cycling and kicker are more commonly seen, does not mean they can't lead to parasitic design. Cycling itself will interact with cards that count draws, discards, activated abilities, etc. Kicker is a bit worse off, but there can be creativity in the costs and with stuff like the 4+ cost mechanic in FF. Adventure doesn't do shit except with stuff like casting from exile (which warp also does) or cards that directly reference it.

>>96016756
>Guys, I did it! I finally found a way to powercreep Echo back into standard again!
That's great Mark, are you retiring anytime soon?

>>96016842
>"Those cards are parasitic"

>Enter discussion of thing
>Post incorrect statement about thing
>Provide evidence that has nothing to do with the thing being discussed
>Point at your irrelevant evidence, while completely ignoring the subject of the discussion.
You are very stupid.

>>96016725
This is such a flexible card. A warp for 1W to guarantee another land drop or a tutor for some utility dork that comes with a 3/2 for 5 in the late game sure is something

>>96016860
>that comes with a 3/2 for 5 in the late game
AND gets you another 1-drop. That's every ETB, sonny.

>>96016850
>no substance, only whinging
my apologies, I thought I was dealing with a reasonable individual, enjoy your day

>>96016880
If you had an argument at all related to the discussion, you would have gotten a legitimate reply.

Claiming that Warp is parasitic is genuine retardation.

the beans ban makes more sense the more warp cards we see, imagine filling your deck with a bunch of good cards that can trigger beans twice

>>96016891
Preemptively banning something because yo know have foreknowledge of how stupid your next upcoming idea is going to be sure is a new low.

Is the EoE story worthwhile, I've heard some decent things

>>96016895
that's kind of how most card games with banlists deal with future cards

>>96016897
It is what it is.
It's better than most MTG stories by virtue of it being actually readable and not a steaming pile of dog shit that makes you want to drive a sledgehammer through your prefrontal cortex.

If you're up for it, it's fine. Terrible scifi, full of cringe Star Trek-style jargon, generic as all hell, but fine.

What is a parasitic mechanic?

>>96016900
Or, just a thought...
Scrap the bad ideas before they see print?

>>96016905
One that I don't like

>>96016905
A mechanic that only interacts with itself, rather than with the game at large.

Kicker is a non-parasitic mechanic because you just use it and it works in general.

Arcane would be an example of a parasitic mechanic, because you can only use Arcane stuff with Arcane stuff and it does not work otherwise.

>>96016906
That doesn't work when you keep printing more cards and keep introducing power creep

>>96016915
>That doesn't work when you keep printing more cards and keep introducing power creep

Argument from absurdity.
It works perfectly fine. You just don't print shit ideas. Wa la.

Gonna play precon vs precon with this as a field spell when EoE release. If the precons are cool.

>>96016897
Read A Fire Upon the Deep instead
>>96016912
Thanks

>>96016912
in yugioh we call it xenophobic when cards don't want you to play with non archetypal cards which makes sense because they are xenophobic to other archetypes.

Parasitic in your case makes no sense as the cards were designed to work with each other which is the opposite of a parasite

>>96016932
>Parasitic in your case makes no sense as the cards were designed to work with each other which is the opposite of a parasite
Mark thought of the name, I think. He's not the sturdiest cardboard in the warehouse.

Honestly I think the YGO name for it you just mentioned is far better. Leave it to WotC to find the worse idea, every time.

MTG has very few xenophobic mechanics though, in the grand scheme of things. It's basically just Arcane and Flying.

>>96016932
Isn't that a lot of cards in yugioh? From my understanding stuff is usually in archetypes like "black magician X" or "elemental hero X" or "blackwing X" or whatever.

>>96016725
turn 2 Phelia
turn 3 play this, play its 1-drop, then flicker it

Guys,
guys,
what if...
WHAT IF...
Premodern became an official format?!

>>96016897
I enjoy Tezzeret actually being weirded out by all the advanced sci fi stuff despite being the Artifacts Planeswalker

>>96016946
Yes and no because a big part of current top yugioh lately is a bunch of small engines that don't lock you into anything
Sometimes decks lock you into things or need specific materials to make your extra deck cards.

>>96016725
>Turn 3
>Starfield Shepherd finds Nurturing Pixie
>Nurturing Pixie finds Starfield Shepherd
Yeah this won't be shit at all.

>>96016958
>3 mana for a 2/2 flier that tutors for another copy
It's just a slightly buffer squadron hawk

>>96016969
Ah, but you see, it ALSO tutors for a land!
And every other 1-drop in your deck.

>>96016974
>or
That's just draft chaff, anon. Bumped up to a 2/2 but only searches for plains and needs double W.

>>96017005
>That's just draft chaff,
THE SACRED PHRASE OF THE ANCIENT MAGI
HATH BEEN EVOKED

>>96016713
The 2nd coming of Hazoret. Early game char with ping then late game reach. Yeah warp is cracked evoke + adventure, I like it

Sorry if this is a retarded question, but I've never played the format before. If I have Inigo as my commander, that means I need to build a deck of green and red. Can I put white in it due to his card effect as well?

>>96017063
Hey bud, looks like you got the wrong door.
The leather club's two blocks down.
>>96014613

>>96016897
Space niggers and bugs, that’s about it and maybe an Eldrazi who cares

>>96017063
color identity counts all color pips anywhere on the card outside reminder text

>>96017067
Fuck (you)!
I am not a clever man
>>96017075
Oh neat. A friend knows I'm a big princess bride fan so he got this for me and I wanted to use it in a way that was unique, thanks mate

someone posted this interaction here the day FF came out.
shouts out to that anon.
this is the most soulful combo the game has ever had, on every level.
curve, interaction, flavor. it's just perfect. weak uncommons as well. there is a princess and she takes flight.
there is no way this was intentional on there part, it's too good.

>>96016577
Better writers
That's literally all it needs, aesthetically, lorewise and mechanically it's all interesting, putting it way ahead of most post-mending settings

>>96016932
It's a bit different to the type/ attribute locks that xenophobic Yu-Gi-Oh decks have. The other aspect of parasitic design is these card also tend to require a critical mass of cards that 'do the thing' to even function which means they often take over any deck they're included in.

Arcane for instance not only just works with itself but the requirements of playing a bunch of arcane and splice spells means you can't just run a few arcane cards you basically have to make it most of your deck to get value out of it.

>>96017115
SO YOU BE SAYIN
WE WAS RAPUNZEL N SHIEET?

>>96017150
>aesthetically
Ehhhh, it was pretty bad, only slightly better than OTJ and that's just because they had a more flexible approach to the gay 20s aesthetic compared to the obscenely blunt "just slap a cowboy hat on it lol" approach they had with OTJ. Even as I'm typing this I can't help but think how fucking bad things have gotten that motherfucking SNC seems relatively refined in comparison.
>inb4 2 years go by and we're saying "Well I guess DFT wasn't as bad as this new fucking shit"

>>96016950
Announcing Premodern Horizons, coming 2026

>>96017233
DFT wasn't even bad. Were you not around for truly shit Magic sets or something?

>>96017252
DFT is one of the worst sets of all time aside from not being a multi-ban powercreep disaster a la ELD.

>>96017263
current thing is the worst thing ever because the other kids on the internet told me to think so?

>>96017267
>Shit art
>Shit story
>Shit mechanics (speed is a fucking joke, shitty vehicles and shitty vehicle support in a dedicated vehicle set)
I don't know how you can say it's not a bad set.

>>96017300
art was weak but mostly hit-or-miss, with some pleasant surprises given how awful the promos looked leading up to release (better than just consistently boring art across the board)
no one cares about the story in any of these sets.
mechanics ended up playing out pretty well. a lot of decision-making and things to do every turn. decent amount of synergy. not too bomb-heavy. had its own minigame.
meanwhile it was followed up by Tarkir. a return to X set that was so bad you got sick of playing it after a few days because the only 2 archetypes were play-all-your-bombs multicolour dragon piles vs shitty aggro decks trying to go under them.

>>96017300
touch grass.
aetherdrift is a based set.

>>96017063
Why is his sword bent?

>>96016411
SOOS

>>96017361
>mechanics ended up playing out pretty well
Even if we're just talking about limited, I strongly disagree. The vehicle theme was a HUGE drag on the set. I don't know how you can pretend otherwise. Just because Tarkir might've been worse doesn't make Aetherdrift somehow not bad on its own merits.

>>96017422
the trick was to just not play the vehicles. vehicles have always been shit. it was a saving grace for the limited environment that you could mostly ignore them and do fine. the best deck was just green fatties curving into colossal dreadmaws lol

>>96017422
read>>96017366

>>96015062
unless you can cheat out Counters, NON

>>96016751
some has Exit abilities.

>>96017517
source?

>>96017511
>what is proliferation?
stations will break formats, screencap this.

>>96015152
It's funny because the white card is the best one showcased so far and it's not close

>>96017531
really nigga? ist card with Warp leaked

>>96017533
proliferate is a SINGLE counter, that is nothing on a 12 count.

At least "Crew" had "Pilots"

>>96017233
Nah it was good, not necessarily in terms of every art piece but in terms of overall aesthetic. Art deco, guns that are actually recognizable as guns, shortstack devils. The only major sin is too many reddit animal people. Easily top tier for the "modern fantasy" planes, doing laps around actual trash like NEO and OTJ.

>>96013070
i like the Netrunner flavor for cards more, specifically Corp cards. Your deck is R&D, projects being created. Your hand is your HQ, projects ready to be finalized and put into action. The discard pile is Archives, full of old junk but sometimes there's face down useful cards for a Runner to dig up.
So in Magic terms, if your library is your mental potential, then your hand is your current capabilities, and thus no max hand size = can remember and be ready for more than an average person. Or something like thst.

>>96013856
>may
>once per turn
Cowards! I want to deck out due to forced draws! Have some mother fucking price for all this power, goddamn it

>>96014735
Honestly, seeing the fan-made Super Mario set for MTG, there's a bunch of cool shit WotC could do. But i don't trust the current designers to do it the cool way.

>>96015142
Just attack with more than one creature, dummy.

Pic related
Ancient Adamantoise 8/20 [5GGG]
Koma, World-Eater 8/12 [3GGUU]
The Pride of Hull Clade 2/15 [10G]

Ambling Stormshell 5/9 [3UU]

Caelorna, Coral Tyrant 0/8 [1U]

Fear of Failed Tests [4U]

So am I to understand that you can warp one time from your hand and then cast it for face value, or can you continue to warp it over and over?

Pic related
Ancient Adamantoise 8/20 [5GGG]
Koma, World-Eater 8/12 [3GGUU]
The Pride of Hull Clade 2/15 [10G]

Ambling Stormshell 5/9 [3UU]

Caelorna, Coral Tyrant 0/8 [1U]

Fear of Failed Tests [4U]

>>96017625
Cast WARP
Exile EoT
Cast from Exile at normal value.

Station is so fucking bad I still can't get over it

>>96017634
>Tapestry Warden
>Drix never leave their worlds defenseless,
...So, do they just hide in plain sight or something? Or is tapestry in this context a fancy way of saying "not build for performance"?

>>96016950
That would give actually good players an incentive to play it more than once in a blue moon, which in turn because of the closed nature of the format would make it "imbalanced" (read, the skill average goes from 0 to not zero) and make our local pissmodern brownie have a melty as he sells his cards and buys into the next meme format, likely 93/94.

>>96017664
I could see it playing out pretty well, will wait and see how to feels in draft.
Set mechanics are for limited gods and not little constructoid piggies

>>96017706
what would happen to the metagame if Premodern actually had major sanctioned tournaments with high stakes?
pretty sure grinders would find out what the best 2-3 decks are and everyone would gravitate towards them, like everything else.

>>96017711
>Format is now sanctioned BUT there is no MTGO support (there is precedent in EDH)
Nothing changes except premodern gets possibly more players as it is seen as a 'real' format aka stores can now legally and openly run tournaments and get wotc support (this is a big deal).

>Format has sanction AND is in MTGO
Metagame closes down as average skill rises up incredibly fast and games/day go into high double if not high triple digits making players test all combinations and quickly figure out what is 'best'.

Sanctioning is mostly for stores, in a perfect (for stores) world magic has no format sanctioning and you can just run events with w/e you want.

>>96013268
don't give them ideas

What a truly SUCKY NAME for a land.

>>96017634
what's the point of giving it 3 power given its effect?
>muh power matter in other contexts
this doesn't matter enough compared to the "noise" it gives to the design

>>96017836
>what's the point of giving it 3 power given its effect?
its green, PUMP Spells exist.

>>96017839
but that just invalidates all intent of the design
what's the point?

Well i guess at this point even the most clueless in this general could say that Warp will be a fucking nightmare.

>>96017839
Green pump spells are almost always symmetrical. In the vast majority of cases it's toughness will still be higher

>>96017836
So it can fight things, this is just combat damage.
I do agree that it does sorta muck up the design tho.

>>96016725
At least it doesn't trigger Enduring Innocence...

>>96017916
but does trigger idiots who say white never gets ramp!
god and you people say reddit is nad for discussion, at least there i can support the right person

I was thinking about Icetill Explorer last night, trying to think up some uses for him because I didn't wanna be ungrateful/lose all hope over insects when we're getting Ramunap Excavator, Exploration and a self-mill effect all on one insect body, and it made me realize we will soon have three insects in standard that care about using fetch lands, which is interesting to me...

I really hope this new Warp shit makes my girl Pia finally viable in an exile deck.

yay. what the game needs, MORE OVERLORDs support

>>96017985
Lands to hand is not ramp

>>96017836
Because even though you can "station" with toughtness, it still needs power to "crew" and "mount"

>>96016845
Did you know?
Every time Maro has a good idea, he grows 1 inch taller

>>96018096
And whenever he had a bad idea he loses 1 hundreth of an inch.

>>96018072
this doesn't help the overlords at all numbnuts

>>96018130
getting 1 or several clones of overlords everyturn is bad?

>>96016667
Anon, stop trusting Karn to help anyone ever

Was Manifest Dread parasitic

>>96018158
not really
it can still interact with a lot of old and new cards because its synergy pieces mostly care about 'face down creatures' as opposed to any specific mechanic
that and the way blinking a facedown works means there's inbuilt compatibility between morph, manifest, cloak, disguise, manifest dread and whatever the next face up mechanic is

>>96018072
Imagine this on Bowmasters if it didn't have the safety valve

Have you hit someone with a Cactuar yet?

>>96016880
How exactly is Warp parasitic?
Parasitic cards are cards that need others of the same mechanic to be playable. Rebel is parasitic because Rebels only do anything with other Rebels. Splice into Arcane is parasitic because it literally does nothing without other Arcane cards. Warp doesn't even HAVE synergy with itself. Warping multiple cards at once doesn't give you any benefit that Warping them in a vacuum wouldn't. How are they parasitic?

>>96018171
T4 Avenger of the Fallen
T5 Shocking Sharpshooter + Moonlit Meditation >>96018072, Attack with Avenger of the Fallen, Mobilize X (6) = 21 Damage

Considering building Gruul Delirium. What's the deck's weakness? Does it instantly fold to Ghost Vacuum?

>>96018247
Not instanly because at the end of the day is still a powerful aggro deck, with that say, the power of your cards drastically falls against GY hate.

>>96018279
Im torn with building UW Convoke or Delirium. Just something I can bring to Standard events and come out with a good WR. That said, I like explosive decks like Gruul Delirium I guess I need to watch a couple of postboard play patterns to see how it copes with the hate

>>96017634
Guess who's back. Thran are back.

>>96016897
The writing is fine (which is a nice change of pace compared to other recent set stories) but the actual direction of the story its self is turning out about as lame as you can imagine. Magic space stone comes into Tezz's possession and Eldrazi spring out of the woodwork to stop him. Couldn't be any more copy-paste if they tried.

>>96017542
Absolutely disagree, only a handful of the artists actually had the knowledge / skill to properly do art deco style and everyone else just aped whatever the art director fed them and they didn't capture the feeling at all.

>>96017689
I think "tapestry" is a Drix thing, it's how they refer to sort of... Everything.

>>96017535
I can’t hear the cope over all the top 8 Dimir midrange copy pasta

>>96017535
That's our impression right now, but first wait for the rest of the set and wait to see the decks working with new set. That Token Generator or the new warp mechanic already look pretty good.

>>96017535
im sure is the "NOT TEMPORAL LOCKDOWN"

What were they thinking?
And not just how bad the cards are, but the distribution of the mechanic. Not a full cycle? Two cards of the same color? Just one in a different rarity?

Mobilize X = Damage
1 = 1
2 = 3
3 = 6
4 = 10
5 = 15
6 = 21

>>96018760
It truly was a better time, when not everything had to be a cycle

I need more spoilers...
MORE ROBOT SPOILERS

>>96019155
You ask and you shall recieve

>>96018787
You're dreaming too small.
This shit works with Blood Tokens and any of the artifact tokens too, not just creature ones.

>>96019413
>muh eldrazi
>muh kavu
>now muh phyrexians
They really ran out of ideas, huh?

>>96019420
>muh elves
>muh arabia
>muh ugly women showing cleavage
>muh elves
MTG was never creative

Why not just reprint it.

>>96019413
poison? fucking posion again?

>>96019472
They reprinted Fynn in Fyndations.

>>96019420
Even worse considering this is a space set where they could have done literally anything, but instead, they do kavu and eldrazi.

>>96019672
The last time they tried something new we got the interplanar wacky races.

>>96019413
They didn't test this shit, lmao. I love to see mtg becoming a dumpster fire xD
Glad I m not playing limited or draft for this shit, imagine losing to a shit uncommon in less than 3 turns.
>>96019481
Less troublesome design imo. If the robot was legendary it would be ok.
>>96019435
planets as lands just feels wrong when in a regular set.

>>96019681
Imagine being unable to deal with a 3 mana 2/3 over 5 turns in draft lol, it's a trash card.

>>96019715
it is not 5 turns. If the guy builds around it then he will have more than 1 artifact creature (and probably 2 or more of this shiter).
Even Fynn was somewhat troublesome in Kaldheim draft because you had to waste resources on him. Now you give a troublesome clock to all colors...

>>96019815
If you've hit someone five times with nontoken artifact creatures in draft, you've likely already won or are close to do so. Fynn was good in Kaldheim because he's a 2 mana 1/3 deathtouch, which is a great blocker. The other ability is far less significant. See other cards like kappa tech wrecker or servant of the stinger for other similar cards which are strong for similar reasons.

stationbros...

>>96019882
Seriously how i'm supposed to make this shit cards work? Is impossible.

Any pauper spoilers m'lord? A crumb I beg

>>96019882
At worst it’s cultivate and with a fetch land and you can keep it on board as a flyer by saccing for fetch on the targeted land

>>96019908
Here you go

>>96019882
WTF are you talking about, you need setup (a fucking token)
but for 2G its the best basic land fetcher
its pure ramp if you have a lander token to sac instead of a reg land

>>96020032
Have we even seen what lander tokens are? They could be difficult to get, we have no idea.

>>96020059
wild assumption, same shit, different name the other tokens (map, clue etc)

Pay 3, Tap, Sac: Search for a basic land

>>96019882
>Power crept Kodama's rea-.
>7+
>Nevermind.
Oof.
I mean, I guess it's a Reach you can flicker now? that has some implications... I guess..

>>96020104
It lets you put both lands on the board if you sac a lander token, which could be big even without the station shit, and like you said it can be flickered or bounced. Heavily depends on what lander token sources are like.

>>96019882
>mono green artifact that turns into a flier
Magic: the Gathering was a mistake.

>>96020136
???????

>>96020104
Kodama reach only let you put 1 land on the field.

if you sac a token with this, it let you put TWO (2) lands, Leaves an artifact on the field AND you can flick it


it all depends how easy or not are Lander Tokens.

on a Separate note, what if every one of your WARPS draws you a card?

>>96020116
>Have to sac something to get the effect.
Oh nevermind actually it's TOTAL shit.

>Station 7+
>for a FUCKING 3/3
What the hell are these idiot designers even doing anymore?

>Green is NOT ALLOWED to have good cards
Why they hate forests this much?

>>96020143
>Oh nevermind actually it's TOTAL shit.
ALL Other 3CMC Spells that fetch and drop 2 cards either
a) Also require a sacrifice
or
b) Kicker extra cost

You are retarded anon

>>96020142
>Kodama reach only let you put 1 land on the field.
Yeah my bad. It's Harrow, not Reach.

It is hilarious, though, seeing a power crept card where the power creep is such a pathetic fart int he wind that it barely feels like a problem. This set is a fucking joke.

>>96020160
Harrow gets untapped lands, which is far better than making it an artifact.

>>96020140
>mono green
>artifact creature
>flier
They don't even pretend to follow the color pie anymore.

>>96020164
but you only get 1 land advantage cause you still need to sac land.
assuming no previous Ramp
Your T3 will end up with 4 lands,
T4 you put another land and end up with 5

Eoe card T3 ends up with 5 lands
T4 put another land and end up with 6

>>96020136
>>96020173
>average blue player when another color does anything

>>96020192
pure land advantage wise, harrow will need to play Edge of Autumn

>>96020192
Yeah but don't forget you probably spent a card to get that lander token. With harrow you can t3 harrow into rampant growth or something, you still spent two cards and still hit 6 lands t4. The difference is that your ramp deck is probably happy to run two ramp spells, while with this new one you have the A+B problem where you're shit out of luck if you only draw one type.

>>96020200
Oh no, blue is a travesty too. Not only in keywords but also just straight up stats, shit like god eternal kefnet was a mono blue 4 mana 4/5 flier with all upside. Absolute abomination.

>>96020160
dumb bitch everything is on fire right behind you why are you planting trees

bake new

>>96020403
No.
LET IT DIE.

>>96020403
isildur.webm

Let us free.
Let it die.

>>96018171
What safety valve does Bowmasters have? Being 2 mana instead of 1? Not making your opponent skip those draws? Not letting you cast it by exiling a black card from your hand?

>>96020584
He's talking about the safety valve on the enchantment. "The first time each turn"
Bowmasters + that without the once a turn clause just wins.

>>96020403
>>96020421
>>96020426
>>96020455
come here you lazy bones

>>96021207
>>96021207
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