Shocklands in Standard edition

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>News & Reminders
Cori-Steel Cutter, Abuelo's Awakening, Monstrous Rage, Heartfire Hero, Up the Beanstalk, Hopeless Nightmare, and This Town are now banned in Standard
Cori-Steel Cutter is banned in Alchemy
Tibalt's Trickery is banned in bo1 Pioneer
Counterspell is unbanned in Historic
Arena Direct: Final Fantasy July 4-6; chance to win two Final Fantasy Play boxes
Pro Tour Final Fantasy won by Ken Yukuhiro (Mono-Red Aggro, Japan, he/him)
Legendary Vehicles and Spacecraft can be your commander in Brawl starting with Edge of Eternities
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-june-30-2025
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA

>TQ
Last card you crafted?

Remember when we had like 2 good OPs in a row on /vg/ and then this guy went super autist and made sure that he always made them first?

>>96020473
No? Bitch!

I found what I think is a spare starter deck code but I don't know if it's still any good. If someone wants to try it though be my guest:
99061-847BE-CB15F-A03B4-9D9A3

>>96020473
Wow that gave me hundreds of gems. Zendikar decks lol. Thanks daddy.

>Ban meta
>Go in with my mill deck into ranked for fun
>Win 3 games, 2 from concedes, lose well over 15
Im not sure what I was expecting. Like come on I dont want to just play my fuckin mono red deck forever. Worse yet its basically all the same shit. Im still fighting bats, im still fighting mono red, im still fuckin omniscience.

>>96020851
Play a big boy format

They call me: chico de la cuerda retrasado!

another one

>>96021023
Wow youre up like 100 gems from six hours ago good job retardo de la culo

Ban dimir

>>96021143
noo you don't get it, 5 hours for 100 gems is the most positive EV actually

>>96020689
What?

>>96020638
>>96020689
>>96021401
Oops i respondo to the wrong posto faggeto

>last time I played the game was like 2022
>check out the codes added in 2024
>"code already redeemed"
What the fuck does arena mean by this?

>>96021412
I stole your codes sorry dude you either sneed or lead

>TQ
Voice of Victory for my Tsagan deck

>>96021412
They changed the system, now you just get stuff sent directly to your inbox. So you already got those packs.

Just getting into arena, unlocked all the dual starter decks. Any cheap deck to build to rack some wins on spark ranked?
>>96021412
>>96021925
This. Everything is in your mail or in your booster area already, just claim it. Its clumsy AF to have to redeem each mail separately tho.

>>96022294
iirc I got through spark ranked with one of the starter decks

Most planeswalker ults end the game, sure
Lots of them are just "-11: you win the game" with roundabout ways of making it happen

but of those stupid ways
Ugin's is definitely the most satisfying

I feel like I finally understand the ff draft, but i have no more gems and dont want to wait 2 weeks for 10k gold. Do I dare buy the 50dollar bundle and risk losing it all?

>someone found my low sub low view count youtuber who opens old prerelease kits and puts the code in the video
Fuck. Dude opened a kit I didnt have the code for yet and it was already redeemed an hour after the video went up with 1 view.

>>96022294
wtf is spark ranked?
generally new players will get farmed in rank and should stick to starter deck duel (which is a better format than constructed ones here anyways, besides the BR deck curving out a bit too hard)

Why isn't Brawl fun?

>>96022756
edh is only fun because of the social aspect and youre playing a game where you cant even have a basic chat system because nillkiggers might call timmy playing on his moms tablet a faggot if he were allowed to

>>96022769
>muh social aspect
>OMG STOP THE BULLYING!
kys, seriously.

>>96022953
play literally any other format if you want a decent 1v1 experience the whole point of edh/commander was the social aspect since it was a stupid meme format meant to be played with your bros and not taken seriously at all and brawl (on arena at least) has none of that going for it which is why its shit

>>96022675
Draft is the best way to play the game and the only thing worth spending money on, if you are going to spend money on it.
At least it actually forces you to improve.
Generally it's best to be as f2p as possible.

ummmm

>>96022756
it is and it's the best foramt

>>96022756
I liked it until they added all the gay alchemy cards and Mana Drain

>>96022756
You built your deck wrong or you net decked like a scrub.

Your response?

How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>96023296
Thats funny but how do i reliably do this to hose mono color decks?
>>96023292
Bounce spell oops or 3 minutes of rope

>>96023358
>Reliably
I don't think that's possible, since you need to setup a lot of stuff (your yard with 6 mana value, enemy yard with basic land, your battlefield with 5 lands on turn 5 and deadly coverup in hand). Jace turn 3 helps a lot by milling his shit and drawing you cards. So run four copies of Jace, four of deadly coverup and a lot of cheap card draw.

What are the best packs to buy now in terms of power and longevity?

Whatever your highest collected set is for wildcards.

Foundations since it will be around forever

Duskmourn + Newer since they rotate during the rotation AFTER the 2027 rotation.

+1

how many orvars can you have?

>>96023292
Swords to Plowshares

>>96022540
Pain lands

>>96023959
My mom only lets me have one commander who come you get nine?

>>96023892
Wizards shill.

>>96024425
dis ting

>>96020447 (OP)
what is better to build up a set? Doing Quick Draft or Premier Drafts?

alchemy challenge

>>96025055
Trad > Premier > Quick in terms of EV if you're good, but it's the opposite if you're bad. If you have little to no draft experience, you should do quick drafts since that'll get you the most games at the lowest price. Treat it more like practice than actually getting cards, chances are good that once you get past the free wins at bronze you'll be struggling.

>>96025055
quick when starting out. Since you're starting out, look up which cards are good or bad on the appropriate sites. Untapped gives you a free trial of their premium where the overlay tells you the card score, really good when you know nothing about draft

i remember that we got some e-mail years or months ago where after every set you got the stats what's the most played format you had and such stuff, is this not being done anymore or what?

>>96025389
Did you opt out of emails? Those are part of that option.

>>96025433
not that i know off, not even sure where i can find that in this game

>>96025452
I think you need to go log in on their website and look under account settings or something like that, I remember some anons talking about this a while back.

>>96025091

>get stomped from 1-0 to 1-3 in plat level prem draft with what I thought was an average deck
>the one game I won was because opponent threw hard
>try out Bo3 instead
>first match vs someone with the shittiest deck I've seen yet, worse than anything I faced at bronze
>games are still kind of close because game 1 I keep a 5 lander and immediately draw 4 more lands, game 2 have to mull to 5 because I'm offered a 1 lander then a 6 lander
wild ride

>>96026013
You get at least 1 bye every bo3 draft from people playing 50 card decks, unplayable cards, or losing to on-board tricks.
Also less pressure to get an insane deck, since you'll play against a random deck instead of another mythic player getting passed 3 shantotos by plat floorers.

>>96026191
He was on blue white and was just playing the chaffy chaff I've ever seen. Crystal fragments, 3x+ dwarven castle guard, qiqiran merchant, cashed in a You're Not Alone for 2 damage on turn 3, drew Stolen Uniform and and Elixir both games.

Not a 2-3 but nothing I can do with two games being 2 lands on the draw till turn 5.

>>96026314

Well I finished my first bo3 2-1 with an overall game record of 5-2, with honestly a completely shit deck. Maybe I'll try again later.

>>96025561
over the last week i have gathered 20+ play-in point, which are worth 4k gemmies at least and which i shall use to earn a lot more than that and qualify to day 2 of the qualifier weekend

I need help trimming this down to size

>>96026851
Why is haste magic and rescue mission on y our deck. I swear I lose to these decks all the time.

>>96026851
I'm already pretty sure I'm cutting at least the Tia, both Haste magics, You're not alone, probably a warrior's sword

>>96026917
You dont cut a p1p1 pick on the exact shell it wants to be.

>>96026946
I have no idea which card you're referring to

>>96026952
Tia, haste is unplayable garbage. Warrior sword is alright

>>96026956
I've seen nothing to suggest Tia is as good as you say it is.

>>96026946
>>96026956
Tia is definitely not p1p1 material and does not fit well into RW.

Last cut Tia or coral sword? or maybe even something spicy like a thunder magic or white aurcite?

>>96026324
In order:
-2 haste magic
-1 Rescue mission
-3 Dwarven Castle Guard(+1 Item Shopkeep)
-1 Weapons Vendor
-1 Warrior Sword
-1 You're not Alone
-1 Tia or Suplex maybe

Wow good job algo you found out my weakness and only match me with it forever ruining my favorite format cool real cool and not gay at all. Funny how when you start winning in unranked they find a way to make you lose.

Odin might be the biggest trap card in draft. I've never seen it win a game, just a 6 mana murder.

>>96027139
6 mana murder that draws 2, shocks for 2 and must be blocked in a set with recursion.

>>96027153
6 mana murder that is answered the turbo after with anything or chumped. Its just not good.

>>96027196
Oh no, a 2 for 1 in draft that forces your opp to have an immediate answer. Retard.

>>96026997
okay I apologize to the shopkeep, it was much better than a dwarven castle guard both times I drew it.

>>96027209
Yes equipping for 1 at insta speed and drawing 1 is good, we know.

>>96027219
>smug posting while talking about the wrong card
oww

>>96027139
I've won with the ability once, but that was honestly luck combined with a risky bait

>>96027219
That's vendor, shopkeep is the menace for equipped attacker

>>96027202
They always do after bronze

>>96027209
Yeah she’s not great but your deck desperately needed some evasion which is why I recommended her.

>>96026230
Castle Guard isn’t terrible

>my rare didnt instantly win my draft
Reeetarrrrddddssss fucking niggers

>4 color non-green nonsense can hit all of his color sources by turn 5 playing jill, cornered by black mages, ultima
>can't find my 2 colors after a mulligan
lmao

>>96027454
Raredrafted instead of picking fixing again?

One of the only times I wish this game had a chat function.
Poor bastard didn't realize he still had control of his equipment after I stole his creatures. Did everything I could to ping the board and get his attention but no avail.

>>96025138
Trad EV sucks. The main benefit is that there is no matchmaking so you get paired against at least one total noob every run.
The guy who only played trad posted a 72% winrate or something and still lost like 5000 gems by the end of the month.

Running it back on red/white, anything to change here? This deck seems like it should be better than that last one.

>>96027234
if you kill their strongest guy with Odin and they untap and burn their removal spell on it that's a huge swing in your favour.
it's not all about instakilling people with his meme ability (which somehow does happen like once per Odin draft run)

>>96028171
there are a couple shit cards that made it in but
>2 lance
>2 katana
you're going to run people over and it won't matter. those are slam first pick cards that I never get to see wtf

>>96028171
-1 Red Mage's Rapier
+1 Plains

>>96028251
fair

>>96028237
game 1 I went first and played zack->adelbert->katana and the guy conceded having only played a dreams of laguna.

>>96028171
I’d probably run Inspiration and Gigas over Fist and Arms. Your deck’s very creature heavy and it’s begging for combat tricks.

>>96028251
lol I didn't even realize he cut a land
without the hand smoother this kind of deck is closer to wanting to be on 18 lands than 16

>>96028303
you want to add 2 unplayables and those are your cuts?
come on I taught you guys better than that...

>>96028392
I don't understand the land cutting thing, it was basically unheard of a decade or two ago when manasinks were hard to come by windmill slams and missing a land drop wasn't instant death. 41 special sometimes sure, but never 16 lands.
Now people want to cut lands from their decks with Joshua and half equipment creatures. I've introduced a couple people to the game, watch them draft, and without fail they always want to cut land and I don't even know where they're getting the idea from.

>>96028477
I'm a land cutting menace, I think once during AFR I cut a red/black deck down to 13 lands and played an Adult gold dragon with no white source in the deck relying entirely on that I had like 12 cards in the deck that made treasure tokens.

>>96028171
Why are you running red age rapier and the summon

>>96028627
too late now anon I'm done with the run already

>>96028477
I played a 14 land deck in the DND set, it was the most disgusting. It was disgusting deck I ever made, my biggest creature costed 2 mana.

I had like 5 of pic related and a bunch of 1 an 2 mana artifacts plus free treasures. It felt unfair for my opponents.

>>96028477
One part is that cheap creatures are stronger nowadays, I think it was the latest Innistrad sets or somewhere around there where we regularly started getting 1 drops that were actually great in draft. Sets like LCI too, where you could have something like four 1 drops and be happy about it. So there's more cases where you can get away with a lower curve and thus fewer lands. The other part is that newbies love to cut lands because they find it hard to cut nonlands. This has been true since basically forever, I remember I had the thought when I started out too. Also in some sets there's a lot of support for fixing lands, like zendikar with the MDFCs or ones with landcycling, if you have a bunch of those cards you definitely want to go lower.

>>96028477
cutting land in aggro decks with bo1 hand smoother was pretty standard.
I never went for it unless my deck was really bad though. I think people have generally learned to stop doing it.
The real pro shit is knowing when to go to 18 land (and 19). But bo1 makes those cases rare.

>>96028477
>I've introduced a couple people to the game, watch them draft, and without fail they always want to cut land and I don't even know where they're getting the idea from.
Lands are boring and you have lots.

>>96028131
yeah sometimes I wish there was a feedback function like "hey guy you had lethal there", but 1) I don't trust people in general to be useful instead of huge cunts 2) Arena doesn't even have a logging function

Can’t believe I beat Nugin with honest Vivi aggro

>>96030533
vivi gets so much better with free equipments in black thanks to dark knights greatsword + 1 mana flail
can pop 5 free mana the turn you cast vivi while holding up 1 mana for a protection spell on turn 4

But
Brown > Black

daily 7 wins

>>96030533
It doesn't seem that surprising, except playing mana rocks, Ugin player usually do jack shit until they can play him

>>96030613
I feel I'm going to regret asking, but what deck?

>>96030670
that one with 60 cards

daily 14 wins

shall i got for 21?

Someone who pays for untapped should post a screen of the current mythic standard meta, thanks

>>96030670
if you also want to farm starter deck noobs then just netdeck one of the banworthy decks with fake cards in the dead formats that WotC doesn't give a shit about.
you'll never get good at the game doing this shit though.

cope

>>96030858
Is alchemy event easier competition than standard event?

>>96030873
you shouldn't be taking "advice" from ms. "one day 2 qualifier in 3 years"

xyr'll just groom you

>>96030873
Lmao
Standard is like 100x harder than Alchemy/Historic. At least your opponents will be on actual lists.
These formats are dead as shit and largely unregulated.
You will run into opponents playing literal starter decks even in events.
It's where people go who have no idea how to play the game or which game mode to choose.
You can be top 250 ranked in these formats and regularly get paired vs silver players in most of your ranked games. The favela child here claims he just concedes whenever he sees an opponent on a real deck to get back to matching vs new players.
It's fake magic with fake cards that won't teach you anything.

one has 21 wins
other seethe copes and dilates

>>96030858
I don't want to netdeck, I'm happy with my landfall deck (which was completely non meta until FF, but it still won enough). I'm just curious.

>>96031254
Turdza isnt going to give you real answers hes just a no life dirty troll that talks about fucking dogs and gets banned.

>>96031013
holy esl

>>96031500
they seem less ESL and more Buffalo Bill

>>96031516
No, he's a legit brazilian and has said as much.

>>96031254
if you want free wins in Alchemy play the Mobilize deck if you want aggro or Orzhov Pixies (much stronger version of a Standard deck that just got banned lol).
for Historic if you're a drooling retard play RW Auras, otherwise play any version of the Sorin deck.
keep in mind that Alchemy particularly is going to ask you to craft 20 fake rare cards that are useless for people who play actually formats, and that it rotates much faster than anything else (which also means most people are playing fun decks they are 'happy with' and have the cards for, and are thus free wins for anyone playing meta).
up to you if grinding for 12 hours against starter decks to make 50 gems is worth it in your favela.

>>96031516
the kid has been schizoposting in broken english that consists entirely of gen z social media slang for years.
textbook example of what third world children with unrestricted ipad access have done to the internet.

success breeds jealousy

>>96031800
how'd you know I call your mom 'jelousy'?

What's a good way to get into EDH and build a decent base of cards? I haven't played since Zendikar and that was only for a year, and before that I played a lot from 5th edition through 8th. So I have no cards anymore.

Would grabbing a pre-con and a box of Commander Legends be an ok way to start? I don't expect anything amazing, just to have a batch of stuff to build on.

>>96032160
MTGA doesnt have EDH

do you guys pay attention to the usernames of people you play against?

>>96031531
Given the number of people who were playing Izzet cutter just before it was banned, I guaranty there's a lot of try-harders even in Alchemy

>>96032187
it does have brawl tho

>>96032642
Anon came to /mtga/ to ask which packs he should buy to get into edh

28
had a 6-3 run before

i think i am done for the day

1875 gemmies spent
2450 gemmies earned
plus 4 play-in points worth 800 gemmies
plus 14 packs worth 2800 gemmies

>>96032772
>plus 14 packs worth 2800 gemmies
How can you say packs are worth 200 gems when you would never ever spend 200 gems on a pack?

being good works that way, you set the example for those who can't emulate you

>tries to copy draftanon
>still worse at getting value
peak comedy

you keep this up and i'll go 35 just to humiliate you further

>>96032772
>>96032864
Imagine grinding out these events all day for less than a 12 year old gets mowing his neighbor's lawn.

>>96032343
I started to because I was getting instascooped against and wanted to know why

>>96032877
They don't have lawns down there

>>96032987
imagine grinding out these events all day for less than a 12 year old gets from mugging tourists

>>96032343
It's made me think online is full of bots, WAY too many AdjectiveNoun names

Not even wotc would have bots shitty enough to make the plays ive seen i dont believe it and you should buy the gems.

When will FF quickdraft be back?

I want to waste all my Mythic wildcards on the Vivi Cauldron deck because it looks fun but I don't even play Standard so it's such a stupid idea

>>96035523
Build the vivi brawl deck instead

lol favela child finds a format where even he can win games
humiliates himself momposting about it all day while the thread bullies him

>>96035363
Tomorrow, I think?

>>96028131
I remember in the /vg/ thread a while ago about a dude complaining that MTGA didn't have a chat function because he really wanted to compliment his opponent on his top deck skills. He was being totally sincere.

I regularly think about that and why I'm glad this game doesn't have chat.

post jank

>draft
>get hot doodoo garbage
>manage to run myself to 4 wins
>then its all flooding/screwing against perfect curve players who have what looks like constructed decks since they have 6+ rares/mythics in their colors
I truly hate that the shuffler never lets you win past 4

how do so many people on the standard ladder not know how vehicles work

>>96037013
Vehicles are cringe so it makes sense that a lot of people would block them out

>>96037317
dies to removal

>>96037382
Only instant speed and circumstantially.
They're immune to the vast majority of board wipes which is a huge bonus.

>>96037413
and in exchange you have to use a tiny pool of mostly dogshit cards
barring of course the 2 or 3 broken ones

>FF coomander decks coming
:)
>they removed 50% of cards and replaced with trash
Wow it's garbage

>>96037429
>DIES TO REMOVAL!!!
>Doesn't actually die to removal
HURRRR

>stall out in ranked draft at plat
>heard that you're kinda supposed to just force UR
>haven't played UR yet
>force UR
>...

holy shit
this is busted
green will be meta now

>>96035523
>>96035531
this
joins the brawl chads

HOW DO I SEARCH FOR CARDS COMMING TO ARENA TOMMOROW FROM THE FF COMMANDER DECKS??????

What's up with this?
Why is it banned in brawl but not on the list?

>>96037910
>3 mana

mfw xyr is literally browsing itt every minute to see if i posted something

i love my trans fan

daily 7 wins

>>96038015
Its not standard legal so you cant play it in standard brawl. You can play it in historic brawl.

>>96032343
sometimes. when i play at early morning theres good number of japanese players and i face many recurring players around the same time in diamond

>>96032343
only when the retards have their whole e-mail as their username
johnsoyares@outlook.com for example

>>96039134
Why do I see this so frequently on mtga?

>>96039252
magic players are retarded that's why

reminder that WotC is sending out emails for the FF Collectors Boxes tomorrow.
I'm not the only one who won any Collectors Boxes here, right?

I won seven we will see how many they ship

>>96039252
Its more common in third world countries like brazil to use your actual name on everything.

Gold saucer was a mistake
You shouldn't be able to ramp from lands alone this easily

daily 14 wins

>>96039456
i'd rather have the $250 per box payout

Any advice bros? Do I splash green?

>>96040174
Its collector boosters though i wanna price gouge a nigga

>>96040277
how much did you spend on gems to win 7 collector boxes?

hit mythic with janky homebrew. whats ure excuse

>>96040336
I'm bad at this game apparently

so much happened in just 1 round

>>96040287
$100

>>96040336
post deck faggot

>>96040571
very nice, wish I had entered a couple times with my saved gems but I literally redownloaded magic the day the event started and didn't have time to derust before dropping $40 worth of gems to go 0-2

>>96040592

>>96040665
>box that says "jank"
>look inside
>omniscience

Am I cookin with bant rares? Any changes? Should I run an 18th land?

>>96040665
>jank
>normal omniscience trannery
lmaooooooooooooooo

>>96040612
Im lying i didnt win any boxes. Sorry.

>>96040772
you don't have to be so humble anon, enjoy your boxes.

>>96040758
cut crash and run venat wtf

>>96040789
I'm definitely going to need another plains if I do that right?

>>96040698
Wtf doesnt that hurt the cat

>>96040784
If i did id probably open them like a retard chasing a chocobo anyway

>>96040665
cant say how satisfying running graveyard hate and high noon against omniggers is

>>96040797
Yeah cut an island for one. You should do that anyway, you've got white auracite.

lmao what a retard, he literally won and he milled himself to death with this shit

>>96040861
Yeah you're right, I was dead tired when I drafted that deck and didn't realize until now how few blue cards there are.

>>96040862
Not everyone can be as smart as a paypig addon user

The new update broke my game. I just get a black screen. Thanks, jeets.

>>96041230
Sorry sir we were trying to fix the white boxes again...

>>96041196
You clearly are not.

>>96041230
Wtf now i get this screen but what does it mean?

>>96041277
>most literate Arena player

>>96039947
>having a 50/50 chance to make a treasure by skipping turn 3 is "this easy"
lmao

>>96041298
Will it ever come back im scared and havent played magic in hours im dying

Made it to mythic with this baby after getting tired of facing mice in pioneer. definitely not optimal, but pretty fun to navigate.

>>96041856
cool homebrew, too bad you had to cut niche cards like cori steel cutter

>>96041881
not really a homebrew, it's just a variation of the rona otters combo that people were playing in pioneer, with some tweaks because swiftspear's teachings just takes it to another level. if you have the 3 mana otter that untaps when you cast a non-creature that can function as extra copies of rona.

The deck builder says that Demonic Tutor isn't legal in Brawl, but i just played against someone who used it.
Explain please??

>>96041881
also, this is gonna sound crazy but i'm pretty sure cutter is not even good in historic. my first version of the deck was running 3 copies of it, but a lot of the time they just end up doing nothing or aren't fast enough to compete with the rest of the format, so i just cut them for more interaction and draw.

Bow down to me you plebeians.

>>96041956
8453d

daily 21 wins

>>96040758
Sup Vaereian

>>96041918
It is good but the build is different

>>96042050
hope you weren't the guy I just threw against by not killing the sidequest when I knew I should have

>>96041196
addon? where is the addon you retard?

>>96042108
Nah that's darkestmage, had it on the second monitor and recognized the instant ramen after Dion.

>>96042138
oh I got fucked by some streamer then?

sisters, are xyrs also having a bug where decks are being shown as invalid even tho you have all of the cards crafted? also you are unable to save bo3 decks cause it says you have more than 15 cards on sideboard even tho you don't

>>96042143
Public Humiliation

>>96042227
indeed. wouldn't be the first time though. I've even been falsely accused of stream sniping before

>>96042090
i mean, i've tried it in wizards too. this build might be more dedicated but i feel like historic is a turn 3 format, and cutter without free spells is only good from turn 3 onwards. not saying it can't work, but seems very suboptimal.

Test

I wanna build a brawl deck with this guy but i can't afford many of the good rare/mythic dragons right now.
Do you guys have any recommendations for commons/uncommons that could work with him for now?

>>96040758
went 5-3, got publicly humiliated by misplaying against a streamer, got very flooded vs. a red/white deck, then got ran over by a double sahagin blue/red deck

>>96042314
Forgot pic

nevermind you just have to change them from bo1 to bo3 on the garbage ass deckbuilder

thanks for nothing as usual, sisters!

>>96042314
>>96042324
The OG

>>96042165
>>96042437
>47 minutes to switch from BO1 to BO3
corotinho...

>>96042314
>>96042324
Not like there's that many options, take your pick.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=f%3Abrawl+t%3Adragon+r%3Cr+id%3Arb&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

>>96042463
Fucked up that they rarity bumped Bladewing in Arena

>>96042488
Ah, yeah, forgot that happened. This would be a better search, bladewing's the only one cut from that.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=f%3Abrawl+t%3Adragon+r%3Cr+id%3Arb+game%3Aarena&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

>>96042459
>xyr really thinks i am playing this 24/7

>>96020689
What's this and how do I get it?

>>96042498
Thank you fren. That's really not a great selection. lol

>>96042553
Someone posted a code and i replied to the wrong guy about it.

>the "best" deck in "standard" has a 65% wr

clown "format"

New cards from the commander decks are in the game use set:fic to see them

>>96042635
already did and it's fucking nothing besides path and swords

why the fuck are quick drafts reccomended for noobs? This is one of the biggest scams I've ever seen
>need 6 wins to go even unlike premier
>everyone has an ULTRA RETARDED powerful deck due to the bots being ridiculously dumb
it's impossible to have a serious game in such a swingy environment. Drating with other retards you don't even get to play against is bad enough but bots who are activately griefing themselves? jesus

>>96042640
And those were already in the game dang. They didnt even put the real commander decks in the game they are missing cards.

>>96042668
it's not, it's swindled to fools who listen to trans drafters who want to groom you and farm 7 wins off your lack of skill and intelligence

now excuse me as i go 28 daily wins in the alchemy challenge

>>96042683
wow wotc released shit what a surprise, almost as surprising as my last uhpponent having 4 copies of the same card in the first 12

>>96042668
The EV is bad, but it's the best way to practice draft on Arena. Premier only gets you half as many runs, and you don't get to take your time with drafting so you can't look stuff up or anything like that. Nobody should be playing it for actual returns, it's just the training wheels to move onto better stuff.

>>96042668
QD doesn't completely hose you if you get 0-2 wins

imagine spending gems on what you know is a bad deal just to practice in the shitty game mode and still think you're better off and superior to alchemy chads going infinite in the alchemy challenge

>>96042735
I found a $20 on in my coat pocket the other day and I'm now more infinite than you urzatroon.

imagine being proud of being a paypiggy

>>96042761
I understand $5 is a good month's salary in your country, but here it's preferable to spending a week in the alchemy mines.

>>96042735
>just grind out events that are three times slower even when you trophy every run lol
nah I'm good, you can keep spamming games for a month just to complete a set if you'd like

>>96042780
it's actually already completed

>>96037625
>"Force"
>3x Ice Magic, 2x Samurai, Tellah
yeah ok bro

>>96042782
Show us

>>96042814
pay me

>>96042787
sure, maybe if I were less retarded I would have ended up there anyway without thinking "I'm going to force UR" ahead of time.

>>96042782
yeah yeah, just like last time, you've got multiple sets at 100% lol
no pictures of course, wouldn't want to get shown up again by the drafters

i will post if and when i feel it's most appropriate to make you seethe cope and dilate, as of now you are already malding so there's no point

>>96042668
no time limit on your picks
cheap so the noobs don't lose as much when they inevitably go 1-3 with their rare draft pile
and since it's bad EV no one who knows how to draft should be playing it, in theory (i assume shitters who are on a losing streak in premier might go there to dunk on noobs but that's pretty egregious behaviour. I wouldn't know, I never lose in draft)

>>96042891
It's cheaper if you want to abuse retiring drafts for high mythic rank.

>>96042915
if they cared they would change retiring to count as 3 losses

>>96042915
oh yeah I forgot to mention that but it's completely irrelevant for most people.
the best way to cheese rank in Limited is to play quick drafts for an old set that no one is playing.
the matchmaking pool is so small that you'll rarely see people on real decks.
it's kind of the limited equivalent of netdecking in Historic/Alchemy vs noobs, except since it's draft you still kind of have to know how to play Magic to be able to do it

can't play historic or alchemy

say "it's a format full of noobs"

Hey guys I don't want to make a new standard deck since rotation is 3 weeks away but I still need to get my daily wins. What's the strongest starter deck? Still red/green?

>>96042932
I farm the hell out of KTK whenever they bring it back. So many free wins from 16 land banner players.

>>96042947
not a bad idea if there is a set you were particularly good at or there is a lull waiting for a new set to come out.
but just playing whatever the current set is on release month can't be beaten on MTGA.

>>96042821
You offered to show your wildcards a thread or two ago and then never did. All you do is pretend.

I hate Authority of the Consuls so fucking much man

>>96043254
Monored faggots like you are subhuman

>>96043245
years of desperate cries for attention ring from the favela child. the mental illness never abates. the parent never answers.

>>96043254
Just don't play red, bro

>>96043267
This was a Temur midrange deck using Frostcliff Siege which was now halfway worthless and where I couldn't play creatures to block because of a 1 mana artifact. Retard.

>eldrazi temple is coming to arena
i'm gonna cum

>>96043530
nice. Timeless has been badly lacking a second Sol land for colourless.

First draft mulligan should be free. It's fucking retarded having to mull because I got "oops all 1 colored" and then opponent doesn't mull and has the most blessed perfect on curve hand with an answer to every card I have while I'm playing a card behind.

>>96043610
I never mulligan in bo1 draft.
Whatever land type I'm missing is going to be the most common draw in my deck. If the game wants me to lose then it will deny me it and I will curse the game and my luck.
The bo1 hand smoother is like the game has already looked at multiple hands and done a free mulligan in your favour.
(most of my losses come from keeping bad hands and losing to an opponent's 2-drop-3-drop-4-drop curve, so this is poor advice)

Do you suppose someone will publish Nummy's recorded suicide after these win a box events?

>>96043851
Is he doing badly? I thought he was a pretty good drafter.

>>96043861
I'm not even up to his latest video and he's won jack shit and lost some 40,000 gems, actually got teary-eyed where I'm at currently

>>96043610
Post deck

hey, uh, NIGGARDS of the CUNTS?
did the buck tooth, slant eyed, zipper headed, rice dicked, cat eating, midget GOOK NIP INSECTOIDS or the street shitting, shit skinned, shitbrained, gangrapist, shit bathing, shit worshipping, pajeet SUB-APE ABOMINATIONS you have slapping the keyboards at FAGGOT DIKE PEDOPHILE LOVER HQ know what """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""random""""""""""""""""""""""""" means?
it CERTAINLY doesn't mean drawing THIRTY COCK SUCKING NIGGER LOVING LANDS in a fucking TWENTY LAND deck in the first 15 DRAWS somehow.
When you're not busy spreading pussy monkey pox sores to children and dogs, can you maybe whip these revolting FREAKS you call """"""""""""""""""""""humans""""""""""""""""""""""" coding your chinkslop, raceswapping, gacha shit to not be a rigged piece of shit?
just a thought.

oh

and also , drawing half a land in a FORTY land deck within 70 FUCKING DRAWS is also not """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""random"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" anyway that nations plagued by kikes, niggers, chinks, mudslimes, and faggots DEMOSNGTRABLY have a lower quality of life (human life, aka non-kike, non-nigger, non-chink, non-mudslime, and non-faggot)

I'd tell you to eat my shit, but you tranny loving monsters love to gorge yourselves on AIDS infested diarrhea during your bugcatching piss orgies
so fix your game, or kill youselves because pretending your bugged monkey-shit game is "balanced" is like all the diseased brained incels pretending they have, can, are, or ever will be women
just a thought

>>96043884
Wouldn't it be easier for you to get good instead of writing shit like this every time you lose?

>>96043877
Meh, I'd be 50/50 on whether or not it's legit, streamers need views and a good player losing spectacularly gets them. If he was actually upset he probably wouldn't upload the videos.

>>96043884
best post on this thread rn

>>96043877
lol I hate that annoying fuck. these content creator shitters are better than average players but you guys should really learn to draft from Limited pros (which is why I occasionally post draft tips here to help).
meanwhile I had a 100% winrate in the Collector Box event, waiting on my email from WotC today.

>>96043851
>>96043877
I hate nummy, gonna have to watch these. Was it the most recent non-collectors event or both?

>>96042940
Red black and green white are the best the blue white is pretty good red green is ass blue black and red blue are mega ass also play brawl

>>96043884
I aint readin all that but good job sport or im sorry that happened to you

Haha rekt

>opponent got Plargg and Nassari in Momir
Had a nice laugh there.

might grind mythic in historic this time

>tfw catching your wife sleeping with another man

>>96043610
>give a crutch to greedy shitters
No thanks. Learn to draft fixing.

>>96044158
You could have an entire deck of mana dorks, mana fixers, and even the perfect landsetup, it still doesn't fix the shuffler giving you 4 lands of 1 color and 3 spells of another and then continue to draw the same land while your opponent plays on curve.

I think im gonna play some pioneer

>>96044200
It does though

Its pretty good and its fun i guess but what am i missing?

Alright we cookin now. Another great day of magic.

>>96044234
>not in opening hand or your first draw, you are now two turns behind, by the time you draw it you've already lost or wont need it anymore
Amazing

>>96044448
Isn't this just simic flash from a few years back with like 3 new cards?

Imagine running annex with your dark confidant. Some players just like losing I guess

>queue up for momir
>roll the shittiest creatures ever printed every single turn while the opponent hits above-rate legends one after the other

Some people in draft really really dont want to give up. Dude had the game lost like 8 turns ago when he used all his removal on my garbage and then 5 turns ago when he realized he would have to kill both minwu and squall yet he just kept playing on, even stole my Minwu for a cheeky 13 lifegain.

mmm... godless

In what order do the effects apply here?
Would Vivi ping for 4 or 5 damage in this situation?

>>96045281
i mean 4 or 6

Shit, I was missing several textures (the base chocobo, a few of but not most of the hero tokens and the stickers in the store) now the new update fixed it and I kind of want to splurge for that Tonberry sticker
I shall not be spending money on Edge of Eternities, I will not support something that exists only to expand the aesthetic so crossover content stands out less

BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY
NEW GEMMIES
200 DOLLERINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>96042324
https://moxfield.com/decks/public?q=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

>>96045360
*drops 200 bucks on gems*
hehe now I'll win a bunch of FF boxes!

>>96045360
But that's not any better than the 20'000 gem one, this feels like it's meant to trick the unattentive who usually go for the best value per dollar into buying more than they need assuming this is a further gain

>>96045281
Guess it depends on how the stack goes. Can players determine stack order in paper? If so, why can't we do so on arena?

>>96045360
Kikes of the coast strike again

>>96045360
This is beyond shameless. Should have been 150 max or 50k gems

alchemy is so easy only noobs play it

agugugu me want binky urza bad pls no bully

>>96045372
I've never bought gems before but that FF box event made me realize how easy it would be to turn them into USD

remember how I said to play Orzhov Pixie if you want to farm free wins in Alchemy forever vs noobs?
proof that it's really easy enough for a child to do

wemeba wen i say agugugugu binkyyyyyy

shut up tranny

abu owminis is noob waaaa

goodbye attention whore

can we get a concentrated effort going to report all of urza's posts for trolling until he gets permabanned

>>96045487
+1 for the idea

daily 7 wins

momir SUCKS

>>96045481
the favela child posts without its tripcode too. good luck.

>>96045281
How much longer is Ojer in the standard rotation?
Is it worth crafting em?

>They had to interfere because they cant take me winning so much in one night.

>>96045281
Itll be 4 damage. Those are both replacement effects so your opponent gets to order them and takes 4, if they wanted to they could take 6 but they never will.

>>96040812
what do you think graveyard hate and high noon do against a deck packing get lost, temporary lockdown, marang and portent of calamity?
imagine tapping out to hardcast a leyline of the void on turn 4 thinking you've got a safety net only to have them pay 5 mana and win the game on the spot

>>96045579
Ixalan rotates out with EoE, don't waste cards.

>>96045422
>Can players determine stack order in paper? If so, why can't we do so on arena?
you can. just toggle it in your settings.
>>96045281
>616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).

>>96044516
Yeah its a pioneer deck and i like it im working on a sideboard it does well in bo1 so far. I dont think many people are prepared for it at all.

>>96045875
>elephant avatar
>meme emote

you just know it's a faggot before even seeing the gay deck in the noob format

it's on the same level as running adventurer avatar or troonstani, even pinkie pie is above it

ugh why momir, i hate this shit

>>96046247
same

MOMIR
IS GARBAGE

finally after like 20 games i got my 3 shitty wins in this garbage fnm event

JEWS strike again

>>96046578
Who is making these decisions this is a slightly worse deal than buying two 20k packs. Are people buying so many gems they need the new option to save time or what the fuck?

>>96046578
Oh my god theyre evolving

Edge of eternities is just going to be stupid cheat out big dinosaurs to station retarded vehicles isn't it?

I only have 20,000 gold and 3 Rare Wildcards. Go on without me spacebros...

>>96047053
Draft will probably be black aggro running over everything, from what we've seen so far. Station is way too slow.

You are so mad, I will keep going infinite as usual

Hey look tripfag, I can also win, but in an actual competitive format with people running serious decks

> 2 loses
Mediocre

Your mom goes infinite on my balls

>>96047572
>370 gemmies

You sure showed everyone

>>96047572
ok now do Timeless

>>96047572
based

You guys are all retarded niggers im going back to paper fuck everybody

Got my first Bo3 trophy

why does the shuffler in this game love to give you all lands of one colour and all cards of a different colour so often?

how 2 donload free gem?

>>96048647
Bronze is so cool anon

Has anyone managed to make Rakdos Wizards work? I really want it to but the support just isn't there. Might be better off going Grixis.

>>96048958
Unworkable in Standard. I think the only format where any of the black wizard cards are playable is pauper (not even in arena)

>>96048949
Bo3 isn't ranked

>>96048958
not really. the only decent cards are black mage's rod, dark confidant, electrostatic infantry, and circle of power. you get to run all the good cheap red black interaction but the topend just isn't there. if you untap with kuja sure you can win the game but that's tough

is there any reason to not open the "vault" as soon as you are able to?

>>96049337
Nah. They used to only show you progress if it was above 100 but they fixed it.

I've gone 2nd in all of my last 10 matches

What is a good dimir midrange deck that is rotation-proof?

>>96049337
to laugh at draftlets

>>96049643
would it open all 38 vaults at once if you were to click it

>>96049677
No, it does one at a time

>>96045500
>daily
sad af frfr no cap

How do i draft this set

>>96049351

>>96050119
you gotta be a little more specific than that, anon

>>96050128
i only ever get asked this when my opponent mulls twice and concedes or the match is a stomp

>>96050148
luckily it only ever asks both players

>>96050153
i wonder if the guy who played a turn 1 lanowar elf into a bolt and then instantly conceded had fun...

>>96050220
I hope so live by the one drop die by the one drop you always gotta bolt the bird.

>>96050140
I mean like uhh how do i draft the final fantasy set? What do i do? And how?

>>96050446
BREAD

>>96050548
Bombs remevol estrogen aids and death?

Fucking lmao get mirrored oh and thanks for the poison achievement

>>96050593
Butts, Rear-Ends, Asses and Donkadonks
Finna get that BREAD

>opponent starts BM'ing instead of just killing me
>draw raise the past after 3 turns and start chaining for the W
just hell queue things

>>96049600
>kill spell
>discard
>counterspell
>do thing draw card
>occulus

>>96050928
Bully all etali players

>>96050446
For general draft advice, there's way too much to cover in a single post. I'm not a huge fan of BREAD, quadrant theory is better imo: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/quadrant-theory-2014-08-20
That's a general card evaluation technique. But if you're just starting out you probably don't know shit, so you should use meta training wheels. Either install an overlay that can show you ratings directly in game, or refer to some stats based tier list like 17lands. You can look for guides on general draft deck composition, like 17ish creatures, a decent curve, etc. Don't forget you have to actually be able to play your deck well, but that can't really be taught.
For FF draft advice, UR is top tier but the format is relatively balanced so you're not going to be kneecapping yourself if you end up in different colors. Refer to aforementioned overlays or lists for individual card ratings. The format is pretty simple on mechanics, so it's more or less a test of your fundamentals. Though it's a bit on the slower side, aggro tends to rely on equipment or mage tokens or 4+ cost spells to accrue value, so you can afford to be slightly greedier.
For Arena draft advice, just play FF quick draft if it's up. Don't play premier and definitely don't play traditional. QD gets you the most runs for your gold and is the least punishing if you wipe out, you'll likely suck at the start so it's pretty much just for practice. Don't play old draft sets, you're far more likely to queue into a diehard drafter who grinds events 24/7 and knows every card in the format by hand.

>>96051367
I was gonna buy gems to do premier draft i heard you draft with other players snd the new gem deal seems like a great value! Thanks!

>>96049643
my draft brother
wotc will email us about our collector boxes soon

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