What’s the weirdest most fucked up fauna or flora in your setting

>>96029345 (OP)
One of my first waifus.

>>96029345 (OP)
>MockingVine
>Also called "speaking snare"
Its a creepy ivy plant with red flowers on it that have the unique ability to vibrate at most frequencies that animals (and humans!) make noise in.
It "hears" by picking up vibrations from these flowers, then vibrating it back thus repeating noises that it has "heard" in order to lure in unsuspecting prey.

Its carnivorous, covered in hooked thorns, and can move well enough to grab anyone who steps on it, usually killing the person or animal by bleeding them to death as they struggle more and more the serrated thorns bleed them out.

Some variants have paralytic venoms in their thorns or paralytic fruits that smell delicious.

So basically, if you are in the woods and you hear someone speaking, make sure its actually a person and watch your fucking step.

>>96029345 (OP)
A land based cephalopod that uses skeletons and freshly killed bodies like a hermit crab uses old shells.
adventurers call them 'puppeteers'
They are mostly harmless unless threatened in which case they will puppet the body to lash out at you, and if you damage the body too much they will either scuttle away or try to attack you by strangulation.

>>96029384
Wouldn't this just mean that it would only repeat things like "red rover" and "we're attempting to contact you about your car's extended warranty" though?

>>96029353
Call me basic, but these two were always my picks.

>settings settings settings

>>96029407
I mean, the vine repeats the noises that get it the most food.
So most of the time they eat animals by mimicking mating calls and such.
If they detect human speech they will repeat human speech they have heard.
So if you are just out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and you hear someone shouting "Help!" or "Hello there!" over and over its probably not human.

If you want to get clever with it sure, you could "train" the vines to say things by shouting something at them then throwing meat at the vines until they do nothing but say that particular phrase.

Also, we got crocodiles, big ones.

>>96029432
fuck you people like to talk about their setting ideas and bounce things off of each other
Don't be a discouraging dickhead.
There is enough negativity floating around in the world without you squirting more into the immaterium.

>>96029563
None of you faggots ever talk to each other, all you do is throw out stupid trivia like 'the crocodiles in my setting eat gold and fart mercury' or 'the giants in my setting sit in clouds and use lightning bolts as toothpicks' for three hundred posts over the course of two months. All of these disconnected facts aren't interesting, especially since none of you even attempt to discuss how the ideas could be used in any game.

>>96029345 (OP)
>the last Christmas armor is Santa Claus themed Custodes
I kneel.

>>96029563
>people like to talk about their setting ideas and bounce things off of each other
So where are the setting ideas in >>96029345 (OP)?

>>96029345 (OP)
>>96029563
We have a wirldbuilding general for nogames like you.

>>96030471
Honestly we need a traditional games general this board has too much shit that needs to be culled
Especially Warhammer

>>96029345 (OP)
Dust Strangler, a bizarre cephalopod analogue that can spend decades in suspended animation in the absence of water. They typically live in underground rivers and aquifers. Possessing no skeleton, they can squeeze to the surface through even tiny cracks to hunt. Their skin is capable of changing colour and texture to hide and its tough leathery nature holds onto moisture well. If cut off from hydration for too long they go dormant until prey is detected. Once disturbed they lash out with their tentacles and inject specialized probosci that line their two largest tentacles once the prey animal is subdued. They then drain the captured food animal of all water and nutrients. This surfeit is then use this to move as far as possible before going into dormancy and repeating the process or they find a body of water. Most of them are fairly small, not much bigger than a dog, but given time they can grow to considerable size. The largest ones are found near the Sea of O’mehs. These leviathans are capable of even bringing down a Magmapanther and are the apex predators of the poisoned sea.

>>96029384
You got that from The Ruins, didn't you?

>>96031228
Adding more generals is just going to make it worse

>>96029556
I would totally make some backwoods butcher shop that was covered in "tamed" vines that constantly shout advertisements at passerbys

>>96029353
>first waifus
>One of
Not how shit works, fagmunch.

>>96029345 (OP)
The player characters

>>96029345 (OP)
I miss Adventure Quest. I really liked Zards when I was a kid.

Well?

You approach a woman sitting on the floor. She has pale skin and appears pregnant, but gaunt, and partly rotted. It soon becomes clear from the stench that she is undead. When you alert her, she rushes toward you, scratching at you with her claws. Once she is dead, a smaller version of her tears her way out of her stomach in a wave of ichor. The horrifying sight forces you to make a saving throw or be shaken. This 4-foot-tall monster attacks until killed; it dies quicker, having half as many hit points. Once it is dead, yet another slightly-smaller monster unfolds from within the belly of this one, to attack further. This continues, the attackers growing smaller and smaller, the space seeming insufficient for how large they are, until a tiny hand reaches from the last one, too weak and pathetic to attack.

It's edgy but it really freaked out my group the first time I used it. Partly because they didn't know if the "nesting doll" effect was ever going to stop.

I had it be the result of when a zombie plague infected a pregnant woman. It had a weird effect. Unironically was going to use it in another campaign, it was even in the dungeon, then my friend who was in that game got his girlfriend pregnant so I removed it because I thought that'd be kinda fucked up.

>>96029345 (OP)
Did anyone read Deltora as a kid? Because it’s got some awesome monsters and plants, like the Gripper flowers, Blood Lilies with numbing pollen that live in symbiosis with beetles that eat flesh, giant lizards with hooves, giant claws, and no visible eyes, etc. the author is Australian, IIRC.

>>96039445
The Glus, retarded name aside, scared the shit out of baby me. Or those clawed creatures in the North, I thought those were badass. Fuck, I wonder if I still have the hardcovers in a drawer somewhere.

>>96029345 (OP)
Pokémon has a lot of weird creatures that might give you some ideas. Has anyone else ever stolen ideas from there?

>>96029345 (OP)
There is a forest by the sea-side region where the leaves rustle.
I met grand total of one (1) player who got it. It's a fixed thing in all settings I ever made or even simply run.

>>96031330
Yeah that’s why you separate them from the board it worked with quests very clearly

>>96029345 (OP)
A giant snake with two heads, one on each end. They always fight you see.

>>96043382
I had a summoner whose eidolon was a fledgling Giratina because I needed a natural attack monster.

We've got cloppers. They're horse-like creatures who have no necks or heads, just the body of a horse, giant hoozes, and gnashing teeth.

>>96029345 (OP)
>Setting is a green hell apocalypse
>All the flora and fauna are fucked up
The Surgeoness Crab is pretty fucked up. It's a roughly hand sized crab that has scaple pincers that secrete a numbing ooze, and it's spit is an antiseptic coagulant.
It hunts by snipping the tendons of large prey, immobilizing them and allowing the colony to systematically strip the creature while keeping it alive and fresh for as long as possible.

>>96029404
Pretty cool idea anon.

>>96029345 (OP)
Liminal Tigers

Created to be terror weapons. They are one eyed, monsterous tigers that have overgrown fangs jutting from their mouths on top of their regular pair of teeth. They are intelligent sadist who stalk and harass their victims until they are driven to paranoid panic before they strike and do this with their ability to "teleport" around corners where their body can fit and appearing around another corner.

If discovered, they will stand and fight to death and refuse to be captured or tamed opting to kill themselves if they cannot escape.

While often solitary, siblings will often live and hunt together until the need to breed pulls them apart to go find mates.

>people like to talk about their setting ideas and bounce things off of each other
So where are the setting ideas in >>96029345 (OP) (OP)?

>>96051321
Since you're so obviously fucking new here, let me explain it to you in the simplest terms, retard-kun; When you put your ideas in the original post, the thread becomes about your ideas not about everyone sharing theirs.

>>96029428
It's a shame that best girl had such a small role.

>>96051356
So then people don't actually like to talk about their setting ideas or bounce things off of each other, huh?

>>96051356
I really hope you're prepared to be fact-checked, because I'm going to enjoy this.

>>96051685
It doesn't really happen much anymore because joyless cunts like you shit up the thread with your attempts to moderate the board.

>>96051690
You can't prove me wrong.

>>96051685
This is a level of retardation you’d find on Twitter you have to do better here man

>>96039462
>Or those clawed creatures in the North, I thought those were badass
You mean the Vraal? Yeah, they're ferocious. Oh, BTW, look what I found when I Googled them.

>>96050801
>We've got clippers
that's horrifying
>They're horse-like creatures who have no necks or heads, just the body of a horse, giant hoozes, and gnashing teeth.
oh
also horrifying, but for entirely different reasons

>>96054522
>truesight 240 ft.
I love the clear signs of an amateur-level homebrew monster

>>96036704
>You approach a woman sitting on the floor.
I do not.
Especially if there's a zombie plague around.

>>96029345 (OP)
Stinging nettles
a relatively normal name but they would drop your IQ a little if you're stung by them, and some int points of it's a enough. They would crop up near societies and pose problems, so people would try to get rid of them after some kids got turned into retards
However, all the intelligence would go into the core of the stinging nettles and form into a shambler, which is just a big plant creature that would be vastly more intelligent than normal people due to amassing intelligence, and would know spells/secrets that a creature of it's expected power really shouldn't and cause major problems

>>96029345 (OP)
I introduced a faction leader who is a high level druid that can shapeshift into animals freely. He admitted he frequently has sex with animals, he always asks for their consent and they almost invariably say yes, and everyone yelled at me

>>96064194
It is funny the amount of hatred that generates, BG3's Halsin also got a lot of hate too for being like that
Was the faction leader supposed to be a good lad or an evil lad

>>96029353
>>96029428
Ok, what is this? I must know.

>>96065398
I don't actually recognise any of those women because I was in primary school when I played it but if it's related to the zard it's Adventure Quest. Or maybe Dragon Fable, normalfags always played that game instead of the OG

>>96029345 (OP)
>What’s the weirdest most fucked up fauna or flora in your setting
normal animals, Ironically, they are rarer to see in fantasy worlds and magical creatures.

>>96064254
Hes a great guy everyone just told me to stop talking about beastiality. In the same cartoon voice I used for him I began explaining it isn't beastiality if he also becomes a deer. Admittedly they apologized for asking about it, because I only vaguely alluded to the forest creatures being his friends, family, and lovers

>>96065398
As the other anon said it's Adventure Quest.

Adventure Quest was a flash game in the mid 2000s that was fairly popular famous for its one time payment model with a premium currency that could be bought with real money or earned in game.
It competed with Runescape in the earliest days thanks to cheaper buy-in than a paid monthly membership.

It was hosted on a website called Battleon and they would eventually go on to make other games in a sort of shared universe with overlapping characters and ideas. Dragon Fable was mentioned already but there was also Adventure Quest Worlds the mmo, Mech Quest the short lived sci-fi version, and I think another one whose name is escaping me.
There was even an Adventure Quest 3D released just a few years ago.
The company that made it is still around, not sure how they keep the lights on but they still exist.

As for Adventure Quest, it was very primitive and had a lot of early 2000s weeb energy and lol random humor.
Whether this is a positive or a negative is pretty divisive.

That's the longest short version I can give I guess. It's very much a "you had to be there" kind of thing.

>>96066528
It was cringe-plated kino.

>>96065662
Besides horses and farm animals, what are some of the more common IRL animals you see in fantasy settings then?

>>96060741
Why? Genuine question. Is it because 240ft of truesight is just preposterous or what?

>>96060741
Check the wiki, it actually has four eyes hidden in its wrinkles, though the primary set is better than the secondary set.

>>96029353
for a moment I thought you were calling the woman in your pic
>the weirdest most fucked up fauna or flora in your setting

>>96069382
truesight isn't just "good vision." it's "can bypass all illusion, stealth, and trickery, even seeing through divine-level spellcasting." typically reserved for high-level angels & demons & similar things. fancy vision is also almost always 60ft or 120ft.

>>96029345 (OP)
What are some more obscure eldritch creatures like picrel, and what must you consider when designing your own?

>>96075312
Oh wow, that IS a bit OP. What do you mean by “fancy vision”?

>>96075312
My bad, I got it jumbled up with Darksight, and even 240ft of that is a bit silly.

>>96039445
Deltora’s bestiary is truly top tier man.
>Giant eagles magically warped into vulture-like facsimiles of dragons
>Armies of magically generated clone soldiers that fizzle out into muck after seven years
>Albino locust men that attack in the dark, paralyse their prey with their giant-ass stingers, and bring them to their master, a massive carnivorous sauropod
>An ancient knight who’s haunting his own armor, maintaining his existence through sheer seethe
>a collection of 13 mutant abominations that eat flesh and can only loosely be called human
>A king transfigured into a colossal catfish-like beast and forced to guard the flooded ruins of his home
>A titanic three-headed psychic snake that commands millions of rats
>A sentient desert that commands the insects that live within it to shape and remould it as it so wishes
>Berserk reptilian killing machines with claws longer than most swords and clad in scales tough enough to shatter steel
>A giant mutant toad coated in a thick armor of adhered gold and silver that produces an extremely painful neurotoxin/acid
>Wispy shapeshifters that ignore all damage that’s not to their heart and will choke you to death with their grip of ice
>The Glus.
>An ancient gamemaster forced to play his game for all eternity, lest he be devoured by the tumorous “pets” that have been fused to his withered body
>Fields of man-eating grass that’ll tear you to shreds if it gets a proper hold on you
>A man so evil and unbelievably adept with magic that he’s completely transcended this physical existence, having become a truly immortal higher being of absolute malice.
And that’s just the first line of books.

>>96085118
>A titanic three-headed psychic snake that commands millions of rats
They were just a regular snake in the books, if a huge and intelligent one, the anime changed them into a hydra for some reason.

>>96043382
Most, if not all the ghost types are made from killing humans and turning them into more ghost types.

Then you have that one bug type that if you kept an open slot in your roster the shed skin would reanimate as a bug/ghost pokemon

>>96043382
The problem with borrowing from Pokemon is it’s so culturally omnipresent that you’re very likely to be clocked on it. Of course, it’s also so generally accepted there’s a good chance people won’t mind.

>>96066436
>>96064254
>>96064194
Kill yourself, yiffnigger tourist. Do your imaginary group a favor.

Either the Zobirah or the Lustrous Horror.

The Zobirah is a gorilla like plant who is extremely territorial (even against other of its kind) and hunts living creatures just to soak its body in blood, which it needs to sustain itself, as it doesn't have a mouth but just a single multi-faceted eye.
Cannot be controlled by mind effects and it hits like a truck, it can also use crude clubs the size of tree trunks and if he does his attacks have a chance equal to the damage inflicted on a percentile to break your spine, leaving your character helpless and for all intent and purpose dead.

The Lustrous Horror is an aquatic monster the size of a small shark with a sharp chitinous proboscis, which it uses to drain blood from creatures nearby.
Their backs are shelled and it is so sturdy it works as a plate mail, its underbelly is exposed but when hit there it automatically retaliates with a tail swipe, its tail adorned with a couple sharp blades that cut through metal like butter, it doesn't use its tail much otherwise.
They aren't aggressive when sated but can drink an elephant's weight in blood, so they usually end up a bit damaging to nearby ecosystems when one is found, they can also migrate when a pond/lake/river is void of prey and move on land to find another place to eat from.

Both are the equivalent of bulettes in terms of strength, maybe a bit more, they are however actual fauna and flora of the setting, rather than being magical monsters.

>>96066528
Aqw is still around and honestly it's more of a dress up game than anything else, same for aq3d

>>96069324
Wolves are pretty much the quintessential fantasy animal

>>96045596
If you think current /tg/ is working I have a list of child abusers to sell you

>>96092081
I’m quite partial to Rheeah’s three-headed design from the anime, sue me.
He’s the one monster design from the anime I genuinely prefer over the original, simply because it gives him a bit more of that otherworldly flare that the rest of the headliner monsters have.

>>96096061
Fair enough. What are some of the monsters you like from the latter two book lines?

>>96101141
Not him, but the guardian of the last Sister is particularly nasty.

>>96029345 (OP)
These things. Recently created by a rogue mage, they have no name yet.

>>96035980

Based meat merchant anon

>>96101141
I personally quite like The Fear from DQ2 and The Grey Tide from DQ3
The Fear is an incredibly basic concept, tentacle monster, but the execution just works, especially as a neat inversion of The Glus, The Fear being a sessile mollusk fused into the stone that hunts with touch, as opposed to a mobile mollusk that hunts with touch that fuses YOU into the stone. Makes me wonder if whatever species The Fear is happens to be the natural predator of The Glus, or potentially vice versa.
As for the Grey Tide, that’s moreso as a final plot twist to the greater Four Sisters plot and as a climax to Deltora Quest as a whole. It’s the closest thing we’ll ever get to Malverlain’s bitch-ass appearing in person (anime nonwithstanding), an all-consuming wave of stagnation and death, and the seven dragons assembling to take it out with our trio upon their backs, all while dueling with the seven Ak-Baba is an amazing setpiece to envision

One monster I made in a more magic hevay game. It is a type of mimic that imitates basic household cloth. Blankets, towels, place/table mats. Anything like that. They strike usually when people least expect it. A whole town was infested by them and the players stayed the night there.

>>96029345 (OP)
Commonly called mutomorphic growths, these organic fleshy blights grow in an uncontrolled and unintelligent way, absorbing organic matter around them.

>>96066528
>Adventure Quest.
>Maplestory
>Ragnarok
>IMVU
>Habbo Hotel
>Trickster Online
>Flyff
>Furcadia

>>96112809
That's an interesting possible connection between the Glus and the Fear, but how the latter would have ended up in the underground oceans is a question.

What about the other book series in the same universe, like Rowan of Rin or the Three Doors? The Ice Creepers from the former are particularly terrifying, as are the Skimmers from the latter.

>>96117951
The Ice Creepers freaked me the fuck out as a youngin. Beasts as large and fearsome as they have absolutely no reason to work in a hive, and yet they do. The mental image of these things swarming, carving through rock and ice as if it were water, yet so cold that even a glancing touch threatens frostbite still lives rent free in my head, and they remain the most iconic creature from RoR to me that’s not the Bukshah.
I don’t remember Three Doors all too well, mostly because I only ever owned The Golden Doors, but the Skimmers didn’t do too much for me. They’re certainly iconic, yes, but they just… didn’t hit for me, for whatever reason.

>>96118934
>Beasts as large and fearsome as they have absolutely no reason to work in a hive, and yet they do.
Why DO you think they work in a hive, maybe a defense against the warm temperatures they can't stand? And what do you think of the Mountain Trees?

>>96060741
Any advice for avoiding mistakes like that please?

>>96029345 (OP)
We've got eusocial squirrels that will strip a body like army ants if you upset them. I dunno how fucked up that is.

>>96128193
By being a player once in a while, and having a modicum of self awareness. Think about what you would find annoying to go up against and why it would annoy you. Then don't do it.
>>96128217
Your game is set in Appalachia?

>>96066528
You can still play them through their client. But it's just... Not the same. It still has that 90/00 feel to it. But it hits different now that I'm old as fuck.

>>96128223
Thanks for the advice.

This thing.

>gpt0g

>>96117951
Maybe during the collision of Deltora abd the land to the north?

>>96085118
Don't forget how Sand Beasts have external stomachs that double as egg pouches for their babies.

>>96095510
I'm a sucker for plant monsters like the zobirah. I like it. Consider that idea stolen.

>>96029345 (OP)
Loitering Orbs of Annihilation that patrol a desert like autonomous drones as the last remnant of an ancient sorcerer kingdom at war that destroyed itself.

>>96029345 (OP)
In my setting the sun the power reactor construct of a lost tier II civilization, it is a sapient machine and interacts with people through those it chooses as a voice, thus giving rise to an entire religion of nudist berserker zealots who have evolved photosynthesis abilities like plants, consume light and garb themselves in a blinding woad.

>>96029345 (OP)
In my setting the sun is a power reactor construct of a lost tier II civilization, it is a sapient machine and interacts with people through those it chooses as a voice, thus giving rise to an entire religion of nudist berserker zealots who have evolved photosynthesis abilities like plants, consume light and garb themselves in a blinding woad.

>>96029345 (OP)
Basically Ergot on steroids. If you eat it, the stuff has some very useful health benefits but at the same time it also makes you hallucinate like the worst trip ever. Imaginary dream eating monsters can visit you and start feasting on your thoughts and if you eat too much, those same creatures can begin to rip themselves out of your mind and manifest into reality using your hallucinations as a portal from their dimension. You die in agony of course and however many your dying mind fixated on then get to run amok in whatever form you hemorrhaged them out.

>>96029345 (OP)
A sleeping Ent was once upon a time used as a reliable hangman's tree. Overtime it soaked up all that rot and woke up insane and necromantic in nature. It then proceeded to raise dead wherever it went but these undead were trees and plants instead of animals and people. Eventually it was slain but the damage was done and now wherever a trace of it wandered, plants and trees will grow gnarled and bent seeping with poisons and death with some gaining a will of their own that is utterly evil.

>>96029345 (OP)
Deliciously sweet sentient honey that's essentially a giant amoeba that mimics actual honey because its life cycle involves being eaten so it can amorphize inside of you which propagates eggs that eventually hatch and use you as food from the inside out.

>>96029345 (OP)
Fractalworms are a family of nematodes that arrange themselves into expanding patterns based on ambient resonant frequencies. Unfortunately, they're decomposers, and the patterns they tend to arrange in with the humming of other insects is what the earliest necromancers based their reanimation glyphs on, because naturally the geometry they form attracts and circulates the Breath of Thanatos and creates the shittiest kind of zombie, the Wild Undead

Heat-seeking snowflakes. In arctic regions there exists a sort of vamperic Eumetazoa which cluster together as they float on cold drift winds by the billions. They look indistinguishable from falling snow at first, until they swarm on anything alive leaving only desiccated husks to be buried in the ice.

Needless to say my cold regions are lifeless deathtraps outside creatures that have adapted to not produce heat signatures at all.

>>96029345 (OP)
Night-Trees, they're giant shadow prowlers that only appear at dusk and look to resemble great spindly trees, but in the corner of your eye, they get up and move around like spiders do.

>>96152762
So uhh, how are these things still alive if there's no prey they can detect?

>>96153621
Eumetazoa are some of the smallest, most resilient creatures on the planet, I don't think they can starve. Besides, if they're in almost every snow drift, it would be impossible to avoid them, detection or not.

>>96029345 (OP)
The ocean in my setting is basically bottomless after you get far enough away from any sort of continental shelf. Everything is normal but the ocean itself acts as a portal to the elemental plane of water, so fucking about at the deep end is not advised.

>This thread
I love these fuckers. How do I make them scary without resorting to the crutch of just bumping up their size?

>>96157414
You can bump up the size a bit, but not to normal fantasy levels, since normal-size mantises are a bit unreasonably small to plan an encounter around. Fist-sized would be enough.
Since mantises are very aggressive, there could be a group of these mantises in an area, extremely agitated as they are in their mating season, and the party has to treat them more as an obstacle than an encounter. Maybe they are somewhere with rough, dangerous terrain? Or perhaps there is another enemy that the party would want to avoid, and dealing with the relatively weak mantises would alert that more dangerous enemy?

>>96157414
Make them venomous and give them chameleon blending.

Hairless apes

I have too many to talk about from my own lore but in a friends dungeon crawler home brew there was a rape vine which raped one of the players for like 3 turns straight until he got lucky enough to have it knock a torch over and burn.

>>96029345 (OP)
I have an infectious disease which slowly liquefies its victim ... from the outside. It starts harmless enough, with the victim's skin not being able to hold fur or hair any more, but soon enough it starts to fall off at the lightest touch, at which point unprotected contact with it means very likely getting infected as well. At the end, all that's left of the victim is bones and a large stinking puddle of highly contagious biomatter.
And yes, you should most definitively kill it with fire.

>>96159778
Lil' monkey fellas?

>>96159953
That could be pretty good if done right.

>>96165599
The Mandrill and Baboon megapowers united at last. But also hairless and roided with rage.

>>96165599
>"hairless apes"
>posts ape with hair

>>96165758
I've seen hairless baboons (and now you have too). I just feel sorry for them.

>>96165599
Eliminators from RE were always a cool idea. Monkies and apes can already rip your balls off, why not mutate them?

>>96128223
>Your game is set in Appalachia?
In part

>>96157414
Same size but vorpal claws. They just cleave fucking anything. You can squish em like a normal bug no problem but they're not often easy to spot and will take a swing at you if you startle them, effortlessly inflicting inch-deep cutting wounds.

>>96166747
Nice. For consideration, your same post, but this instead.

>>96166783
That is horrifying. What are some other insects that look a lot more terrifying when you zoom in?

>>96166709
Hot dang, tell me more

>>96152231
Pseudowater from Made in Abyss?

>>96029345 (OP)
Cauldron men probably but I've got a lot

>>96174248
Also gotten some good responses from snail shamans and the turtlenecks

>>96174248
>>96174268

Dude this is wicked you've got the goods.

>>96174385
Thank you. I like to come up with fun stuff.

>>96174248
>>96174268
>>96174392
Nice
>>96173150
Wasps