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On the brink of ̶d̶e̶s̶t̶r̶u̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ madness edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What your favorite removal spell/ability

ban sol ring

>>96040208 (OP)
Eldritch horrors beyond mortal comprehension dying to a banana peel will entertain me until the end of time

>>96040208 (OP)
>TQ: What your favorite removal spell/ability
I remove it from your side of the table.

>>96040176
You're literally retarded

>>96040254
Okay? You still have dogshit taste and made a terrible comparison.

>>96040238
i like how tragic slip could've just shown a guy falling down a cliff (grand canyon irl) but no let's dunk him straight into the grave lol

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96040264
My comparison is fantastic and I have much better taste than you do.
You're literally retarded and I'm sorry about that, maybe I'm the first person to tell you

When it says modified creatures, what does that pertain to? Like if my commander gives everybody haste are they modified? Does equipping a character count as modifying them? Or would it be more like aura enchantments?

suprisingly fun in lower brackets. still folds to board wipes.

>>96040272
I like either more than 20

>>96040284
Why don't you look at the same card that's not in the extended art because it has the reminder text

>>96040280
If it was fantastic I wouldn't habe been able to find it retarded anon. Put down the ego and stop being butthurt that your "favourite new mechanic" is just a rehashing of a bad old one

>>96040291
Well fuck me it does, guess i only saw the extended art one, thanks anyway anon

>>96040299
>Put down the ego
You should take your own advice. But you already knew that
>stop being butthurt that your "favourite new mechanic" is just a rehashing of a bad old one
So not only are you dumb and egotistical, you also can't even read
>If it was fantastic I wouldn't habe been able to find it retarded anon
Truly there is no accounting for taste , kek

I'm not going to waste any more time with you

>>96040346
I dont like a thing and I dont find your argument compelling. Neither of those are ego fueled lmao.
>if you disagree with me uhh.... you cant read!
Everything evoke does, warp does better, as its a powercrept evoke.

>>96040359
You literally can't read holy shit

>>96040208 (OP)
Technically doesn't remove anything but it almost always fucks up two opponents at once.

>>96040373
>not wasting time
>his ego compels him to waste time
No surprises here
>>96040319
>have 4 attackers
>everyone has 3 creatures
>you could swing all 4 but then you'd be open
>tap one to station it
>still have 3 blockers open for your opponents board
Again, youre just a dogshit player scenarios like above are incredibly common in magic.

I'm new to mtg, I wanted to play picrel as my commander to be silly and steal sol rings so I can cast huge sea monsters, but apparently people absolutely despite theft decks. Will people genuinely get pissed off if I play her?

>>96040381
Literally retarded

>>96040389
I love this deck but I dont play it not because I care aboit theft stuff but shuffling takes up so much time.

>>96040389
She got nerfed pretty hard by the ban of mana crypt. You'll no longer walk away $100 richer after shuffling one into your deck.

>>96040407
>the ego demands i respond despite me saying I wont waste anymore time!!!!
You are under no obligation to look like a little faggot who cant live up to his word anon ^.^

>>96040389
>Will people genuinely get pissed off if I play her?
Don't pay any attention to the hyper autists on here that scream and yell and piss themselves over these things. Play the decks you enjoy and have fun, that's all that matters

>>96040437
I'm not even the same guy you absolute retard

>>96040448
Ah yes just saying the same things and interjecting for no reason. The true hero of edhg lmao

>>96040208 (OP)
>TQ
Picrel just works. In at least 9/10 cases, it'll hit what you need to hit, get around indestructible & hexproof and will take more shit with it as colleteral damage.

>>96040485
>4 mana do nothing

>warp spells are overcosted for their regular casting cost!
Nope! Not a single revealed one is overcosted compared to its analogous cards.

My decks:
>Tasigur Pod
>Aesi Lands Matter
>Ovika Big Spells
>BruSi Spellbomb Control
>Niv Reborn Goodstuff
Would you let me sit at your table?

>>96040509
I dunno about that, anon

>>96040485
I can't begin to imagine using a spaceship as a commander, Station makes commander removal even more brutal than normal

>>96040546
>Station makes commander removal even more brutal than normal
I can never ever ever play them because my pod is so fucking removal heavy. The second I get enough counters it's gone and I'll have to start over. Sounds fucking soul crushing

>>96040532
i know pubstomping feels good but it's these kinds of decks that aren't cedh but are too strong for the kind of edh gaming that wotc wants for casuals that makes brackets necessary

>>96040532
>How many game changers?
I also expect for you to have a QR code that links to your Moxfield so I can verify.

>>96040568
aesi itself is undeniably a GC and i hate gavin for being too much of a pussy to admit it

>>96040564
>it's these kinds of decks that aren't cedh but are too strong for the kind of edh gaming that wotc wants for casuals that makes brackets necessary
There needs to be 3 GC, 5 GC, and unlimited GC brackets desu.
The difference between 3 GC and unlimited GC is too vast.

will you build the lobster chef?

>>96040467
Your ego must be fucking massive if you think that it's impossible for more than one person to think you're a fucking retard kek

>>96040595
Actually cool card and slightly out of the norm for Boros. I like this alot. So far im buying a box.

>>96040447
Thank you

>>96040509
Wrong

>>96040595
The coolest card in the set so far desu

>>96040595
Non equipment boros??? Sign me the motherfuck up

>>96040595
Pretty neat. What artifacts do you think people are going to mostly use?

>>96040603
Nothing in my post even remotely implies that. Simply that in this case, its been you the entire time. You clearly have an emotional attachment to the discussion or you wouldn't have tried this lmao ego gotcha. Please keep on wasting your energy you said you wouldn't.

>>96040595
Shoulda been a crab
Years from now mark my words they will be combining lobster and crab

>>96040587
Ofc there's a massive powerspike between 3 gc and unlimited gc (cedh), but they're not supposed to
I get your point but if for whatever reason you dont want to play cedh but still want to play strong cards and dont want to be limited by an arbitrary 3 GCs there's bracket 4, aka waifu gaming, picrel

>>96040640
boros is eating good this set.

>>96040641
Cheerios with a draw engine? Some effect that creates an artifact each turn?

>>96040655
Boros is the most powerful two color pair in the game

>>96040652
*they're not supposed to be fighting each other in the first place
60 card players dont pitch a saffron olive against the odds pioneer deck vs a legacy oath of druids deck, 100 card players should think likewise

>>96040641
Token treasures probably

someone call an ambulance for pauper commander.

>>96040711
>>96040655
>different versions of the same character in Universes Within in the same set

>>96040711
More like a hearse, because I don't know anyone who plays that

>>96040241
this. theft is just a 2 for 1 most of the time. especially these days now that those effects are not tied to auras ala agent of treachery

>>96040655
Boros is the most boring two color pair in the game

>>96040595
Ay you tellin me a shrimp fried this rice???

Is orzhov aristocrats fun

>>96040915
No

>>96040711
No THIS is the terror of pauper commander. Ramp + draw + board presence, it's a pure distillation of simic cancer

>>96040762
lmao you should try it anon

>>96040595
Ah, so you use the new Munitions card with this and use it to sac the Munitions tokens.

>>96040595
buy this dogshit card to use it with the lobster

>>96040968
Wait this was a real card? I thought it was someone's anime edit

>>96040595
He's making me wanna try my hand at Breya again. My white whale only gets cooler and cooler shit every set and I can't HANDLE IT.

>>96040915
For me it is. I enjoy removing every problem

>>96041065
>4CMC
DOA.

>>96041027
>Another 'swordfag tries to build breya' episode
change the fucking channel

goyfsisters? what’s our status?

>>96040915
She's a hooker

>>96041116
It validates Nethergoyf as an option. Will run it in my Disa deck.

>>96041116
>in space
>recommended action:RUN
ok

>>96040915
only one teysa worth playing

time to make my Arcum Dagsson deck I guess

>>96041185
lol
>>96041197
wish i was that chair
>>96041236
>7 mana
>to draw extra card
pass

>>96040999
Use this objectively better card.

>>96041116
>counter to the gravehate that ruins Goyfs

>>96041260
huh didn't see that while searching.

>>96041027
What about Shrimp Fried Rice makes you think Breya of all things?

>kavus and lhurgoyfs
>still no goblins
I want Dockside in space....

>>96041260
>>96040999
Any more like this

>>96041319
Scryfall.com

>>96041260
>>96040999
>>96041319
You can just give him lifelink since he does the damage

>>96040485
>Jund insect is just a worse version of Mazirek with Crucible of Worlds
>Jund spacecraft does barely anything until it becomes a creature, in which you sac all your lands and hope everyone dies
>Jeskai commanders are a million times better in every way
Why do they hate insects so much?

>>96041094
Listen, please
please listen
hey listen
I like da artifacts/token spam, and Red/White have lots of cool stuff like Mr. Shrimp's Wild Rice, token doubers, stuff like Alibou, etc
>>96041305
Artifacts, sacrifice, burning people, that sort of stuff

>>96040208 (OP)
>TQ
I've got a soft spot for Meteor Golem. Having a almost anything removal on a body that can be copied or reanimated has been fun.

>>96041337
Brilliant

I think this non-land generous gift variant is pushed enough to be playable. A lander token is almost as bad as a map. I think I will play this in my decks alongside gift.

>>96040546
Counter savers are going to probably be your only saving grace, and even then it's not going to be easy.

>>96041363
I'd rather not ramp my opponent

>>96041363
It technically ramps them, but if they're spending 2 mana to use the lander token, that's 2 fewer mana for whatever spells they cast this turn.

>TQ
rape

>>96041375
Just play both

>>96041392
I'd play stroke and gift rather than ramping someone

>>96040485
That this is an artifact is going to suck but I kind of like it anyway.

>>96041116
Reminds me of that Death and Taxes build that run main deck graveyard exile in order to always activate Eldrazi Processors while fucking over Goyfs and fringe gravyard decks

>>96041252
>artifact
>7 mana
Literally not an issue.

>>96041392
Ramping opponents bad. Don’t play Assassins Trophy or Path to Exile either. There was a time where someone getting a free land was fine, but now the format is too fast. Whoever hits 8 mana first is likely to win if they have a finisher in hand.
>>96041404
I’ll gift you a stroke.

>>96041438
STROKE THIS AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>96041438
>Ramping opponents bad.
Yeah no shit Sherlock

But ramping doesn't matter late game. Assassin's trophy is great on later turns, and on an early turns you can still prevent someone from getting an early dunk.

Late game you would rather have passed to exile then swords the plowshares
>>96041404
I'll play all 3

Hey so that one anon who said the life total mill card should be in black? Here’s this

>>96041475
Actually a really nice card for mill strategies, if they hit the color requirements

>>96040595
boros, home.

>>96041457
Unless you're about to win this turn, it always matters. How often have you heard "damn I was just 1 mana away from winning!" or "man, I don't have enough mana to do what I wanna do"
Mana is the most important thing in the game, it's why land destruction or tapping down lands is so devastating.

>>96041475
hello beautiful

>>96041484
holy kek

Reposting star snake for anon in case he missed it last thread. Don't know how else to get it to him other than just posting it a few times.

>>96041490
Sorry, but I disagree. I think it's a great card and it will probably cost as much as generous gift and stroke of midnight

Once again take a look at path to exile, the ramp doesn't prevent anyone from playing it

>>96041498
>not a snake

>>96041484
doesn't Nuka-Cola already make it go infinite

>>96041507
It'll probably be slightly less than Stroke

so like 15 cents

>>96041515
No

Panharmanicon in blue, also this alt art looks like a proxy

>>96041531
>Cute girl
>Not legendary
Pain

>>96041515
no since manufactor is a replacement effect it does not go infinite. but you would make three tokens every time you sacrifice an artifact

>>96041529
yes it does
>whenever you sacrifice a Food, create a Treasure
>all Treasures are Foods
>sacrificing a Treasure is also sacrificing a Food
>create a Treasure whenever you sacrifice a Treasure
>infinite mana on demand

>>96041363
>and nonland
>instant
>they have to pay to ramp
Damn we finally powercrept PTE. I know its not exile so its a weird side grade but this is a good card

>>96041531
almost all custom art are proxy tier anyway so wotc is just selling what people want

>>96041545
I meant with Lobster Man

>>96041515
no since you need an untapper and infinite mana but yes nuka cola will generate a new treasure food token on every sacrifice.

>>96041531
pahnarmonicon / virtue of knowledge on a stick

>>96041552
PTE is also one mana instead of three so this isn't a power creep at all. It's a downgrade/sidegrade of Stroke of Midnight

>>96041546
That's not how it works, manufactor is a replacement effect

>>96041564
see >>96041555, I should've been clearer

>>96041555
it's the same:
you make a token that is also a food? no, manufactor creates a food/food, a food/treasure and a food/clue. it does not see them enter again otherwise manufactor would combo with itself making three of those tokens every time

>>96041562
Nah has more in common with PTE than stroke.

>>96041546
how is it on demand when everything is tapped

>>96041126
I love whores

>>96041564
He's saying the vending machine makes the lobster go infinite by itself, no Manufactor needed.

>>96041583
>tapped
I can't read

>>96041575
You're a special kind of retarded. Remove Manufactor from the equation.

>>96041588
It's almost like they included that word to prevent bullshit like that

>>96041507
Path only costs 1 mana. The tradeoff for that efficiency is worth it.

>>96041586
He's still wrong. See >>96041575

>>96041531
>finally get your reward card as mtg champion
>another artwork in the very same set
lmao

>>96041595
>MTG design team not being complete retards for once

>>96041602
Good. Fuck those cards only ever having one art.

>>96041604
they finally learned to create tapped treasure tokens after all!

>>96041594
I mean I guess? goes infinite with this

>>96040595
I love me some Dominik Mayer but lobster chef got him beat this time.

>>96041611
they usually get reprints with new art after a while

Is basalt monolith/mesmeric orb considered degenerate

>>96041599
Jesus Christ, you're dense.
>Lobster makes all Treasure into Food
>sacrifice a Treasure for one mana of any color
>Vending machine sees a Food getting sacrificed and makes a Treasure
>that Treasure is also a Food because of Lobster
>rinse and fucking repeat

>>96041621
In what world is generating infinite mana and infinite life not going to be enough for you?

>>96040595
Honestly, maybe. I've been wanting to do something with all those artifacts that do something on enter and something on hitting the grave. Initially considering building Korvold but he felt like he'd be stepping on the toes of the Ziatora I already have. Lobster chef seems promising and in a different lane than either.

>>96041647
anon we already figured out it wouldn't work because Nuka-Cola's treasures come in tapped

>>96041647
how are you going to get infinite mana and life if the treasure enters tapped?

>>96041647
T
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P
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>>96041621
Ahem

>>96041668
yeah, but grinding station is a check as long as you have more artifacts to sacrifice

>>96041659
By untapping it.

>>96041675
>$50
>yet another card
>now it's a 4-5 card combo
>tiny thumb nail
you deserve to stub your toe

>>96041621
>>96041668
we did it guys, we broke cards from Mirrodin block

>>96041673
I've seen too many people pull some bullshit before they technically hit their next card draw to rely on mill in a deck that isn't wholly built around it.

>>96041675
>Goal post moving

>>96041682
praise mirrodin, truly the greatest block ever

>>96040655
Not sure how you play him and not win in the same turn.

>>96041643
>3 card combo
>the individual cards suck by themselves
nobody will bat an eye if you puled this off by turn 15
but get a goldfish draw and kill everyone by turn 5 and people lose their minds
while gavin trying to nerf 2 card combos and promoting 3 card combos to increase variance makes sense he also misses the fact that people want their opponents to win "in a timely manner"
either that fag needs to essentially make a house rule in the lower brackets "no infinites/near infinites/i win combos before turn X" or just shrug his shoulders and stop people for being "bad actors" for running combos that *might* win turn 5 in bracket 2

>>96041427
Eldrazi processors can be fun. The more cards use the exile as temporary zones like adventure, the more you can fuck with people.

>>96041576
PTE is W mana, this is 2W just like Stroke and also nonland permanent just like it

>>96041708
*stop accusing people of being bad actors*, god i really hate him doing that, it's so disingenious

>>96041702
Especially with that Endstone thing that makes each spell draw you a card, so you can just play a card, draw a card, repeat lmao

>>96041708
I put it in my Emet Selch deck since I'm doing heavy graveyard anyways, I was gonna put thoracle and some other bullshit when I make it a borderline cedh eventually but for right now I just thought that combo was funny and I want to make it my strongest deck eventually

when does moxfield update with the spoilers ususally

>>96041733
when they're officially spoiled since I think it just pulls from Scryfall

>>96041739
I already got tanuk tanuk tun on there though

>>96041647
Absolutely btfo

>>96041627
That's a pretty cool alternative art too. Both versions are solid.

>>96041510
He wrote the card text I just did the art from a photo he used

>>96041627
holy shit what fantastic art. but the original is also really good too

>>96041753
guess who's on Scryfall

>>96041531
Looks like a fucking Un set character

>>96040578
This could be interesting. Lowering or raising you to half life while gaining so much advantage is something.

I am quite enjoying this set the more thats revealed.

>>96041777
NO YOU'RE NOT BECAUSE WARP IS JUST EVOKE

>>96041766
yeah thats what im saying

>>96040578
>half your starting life totals rounded up
>rounded up
Is it not always 10/20? What formats have a weird life totals?

>>96041791
he's on Archidekt, dunno why Moxfield would have a lag

>>96041793
2 headed giant and edh

>>96040595
So without going infinite this guy isn't really going to be doing much damage is he? If you're going for doing damage using himself and his sacrifice effect and untap trigger primarily you'd need either to give him life link to make his damage trigger the untap him during end step or you'd need enough mana to sacrifice a food to gain life and trigger his untapping. It's expensive mana wise.

>>96041785
I guess it's a similar concept but overall I think it's pretty different. It's more like making those cards that return to your hand at end step an entire set mechanic

>>96041785
Funniest thing about this is am the warp"="evoke anon. It's by far my least favorite part of the set so far, especially since the cards that have it all seem pretty generic so far but wcyd. Landers are cool and honestly just needed in EDH and seeing as its a high cost set needed in draft. I think stations are a fun new card type. I like the colorless infect that was revealed. High chance ill be getting a play box

>>96041793
Brawl has 25

>>96040532
I let anyone sit at my table.
I just expect to eat shit every time is all

>>96041818
Yeah but it's fun

>>96041804
I figured it ou they only show up in the deckbuilder not anywhere else

>>96041793
Leviathan has 25 now, like Brawl, and there's also 2HG

>>96041824
Colorless infect?

>>96041836
Might put this in my build a chimera deck as an alt wincon

>>96040286
Was thinking of building him. Did you just go for a spam legends deck or what? A Dissidia deck with WoL Jodah might actually be super fun too

>>96041869
This card tempts me so much

>>96041830
True. I was just wondering what his solo ceiling may be. Seems like he'll be a fun build.

>>96041869
What can I do with this

>>96041930
probably something with another EOE card that lets you sacrifice Munitions tokens

>>96040286
Heartbroken we didn't get an alt art for Ardbert

Kilo’s ship

>>96041633
I got the miku version of this a while ago but have not had the chance to play it

>>96041968
hey look, a card that might actually make Station a playable mechanic

What are Master Chief's colors?

>>96041977
green

>>96041968
Oh this looks fun
I'm glad i preordered this already

Any recs for my Thomas the tank engine deck? Percy is doing wonders but wondering about the other trains

>>96041968
Might build something for this

>>96041864
You mean like Wurmcoil Engine?

>>96041968
Welp, I want this for Breya since a single Karnstruct can turn it on.

What number do you call blind with talion

>>96042052
I would pick 2. 1 feels a bit low for many cards, but 2 hits lots of ramp on top of many creatures.

What is Mono-Red's reactive answer to a player going wide with Craterhoof Behemoth or an Overrun effect? Any cards that come to mind?

>>96042074
Blasphemous act before a craterhoof can hit the go wide. Or just kill them before they can ramp too fast

I just goldfished a bunch and this cards feels incredibly good. My Darien deck is gonna have more tutors than card draw soon.

>>96042119
>a tutor you can double up on feels good
truly a revelation

>>96042074
>i want to play red like a blue player

>>96042074
Basilik's Collar on pic related.

>>96042119
Going directly into Giada holy shit

>>96042074
Delayed Blast Fireball

>>96042133
What onedrops are you getting in giada? Small angels?

>>96042119
>>96042125
>>96042133
It's utter garbage and you're all fucking retarded.
You are never paying 5 mana for a 3/2 flier
And for 2 mana it's a Knight of the White Orchid but worse because the land doesn't get put on the field.
Searching 1 drops is worthless.

>>96042038
Shit, didn’t even think of deathtouch either

>playing games with my friends after they said they finished the deck lists I sent them
>One misses land drops for 8 turns
>Ask to look at his deck after the game
>He's running 20 lands
>Ask him what he did with the other 16 lands I had in the list
>He cut them for more creatures since lands don't do anything
Teaching my friends has been both painful and fun

>>96042140
segovian angel

>>96042074
if you still got a turn: the nuclear option.
otherwise Nevinyrral's Disk or boompile on board

>>96042142
>searching one drops is worthless
yeah?

>>96042140
Lands and segovian.

>>96042158
Oh boy tokens!!!!
If Oceleot Pride is the lynch pin of your deck you may be retarded.
You know white can tutor for 1 drop artifacts for 1 mana right? Something that's actually game changing? Like I dunno, only net positive mana rock in the game?

>>96042195
yeah man, who would ever want to search up one-drop creatures in white

Think it'll come down anymore bros? I'm not getting any version that isn't the Nomura art

>>96042052
If I had to call it truly blind (hidden commanders and no graveyards) 2 Obviously.
If I know commanders, if there are 2 or more under 5 CMC still 2
Otherwise 4

>>96042222
it probably will over the next three years as more packs get shipped and opened

>no Secret Meme Lair with Nomura drawn Sora
What gives? They have Marvelslop which means they got Disney permission, and they have FFslop which means they have Square Enix permission. So what gives?
what colors would Sora be? What abilities would he have?

What are the best token generators or good sac fodder for golgari aristocrats

>>96040241
For me it is detention sphere + flicker of fate.
Stack shenanigans are fun.

>>96042252
You already know the answer

>>96042206
Look man, you're addicted to 15 cent cards, and that's okay. We just don't need you coming to these threads saying how great overpriced tutors are.

>>96042142
>You are never paying 5 mana for a 3/2 flier
Average angel pricing

>>96042305
Mommy is like $5 at the cheapest

>>96042305
Do you even fucking play the game? Mom's been like 5bux for a decade

>>96042206
>not the Terese art
Acquire taste

>>96042329
no appreciation for the classics these days
>b-but that's the List
shut up

I've never played simic but I'm deciding between this dude since axolotls are cool and the slime wizard since I just think she's cute, are either fun to play
I've played against too much Koma and Kinnan so I have a bad taste from simic but it's a color I've never touched

>>96042329
>brown people are le good if a dyke draws it

>>96042348
>brown people are good if they're attractive
yes, correct

>>96042348
Yes. Terese draws pretty people

>>96041484
>>96040595
>create treasure
>it's also food
>manufactor fires
What happen?

I haven't played since the last bans that caused eternal seething across the cosmos and made Wizards aquire the EDH format. Has the game changed at all for better or worse since?

>>96042396
In the grand scheme of things? Nothing big has changed, just more cards available

>>96042396
Nothing ever happens.

>stop by LGS to grab some sleeves
>oh hey they have two of the FF decks in stock
>they went full jew and are charging $140 each

What’s the turnaround on reprinting these? I’m not willing to pay scalperfag prices just to stock my game night shelf

>>96042396
Why would things ever get better?

>>96042396
not really. They're trying to balkanize the format but no one really pays attention.

>>96042457
Shut up and eat your slop paypiggy. If you want your cardboard funkopops you'll pay whatever you're told.
Of course you could walk on your hind legs, have a go at being human, and not buy UB at all, but that's a lot isn't it piggy? Much easier to stay on all 4s with your nose in the trough.

>>96042396
>Has the game changed at all for better or worse since?
Unbanned a couple things, said they're unlikely to reverse the last RC bans, made Legendary Vehicles legal commanders because they're probably going to print a Star Wars or Star Trek Universes Beyond.

>>96042396
They’re testing the waters on having a soft ban list so they can use it to put the expensive chase cards back in the format

>>96042499
>unlike to reverse the last RC bans
This is a good thing, and only pubstomping giga faggots would say otherwise. Piss on Dockside faggots, roundhouse kick Mana Cryptiggers

>>96042470
>pubstomp casuals to no end
>aaaaaiiiiieeeeee stop bullying me
>wotc: ok guys here's some guidelines (beta) for better matchmaking so you don't get bullied as much
>stop balkanizing the format!!!
rule zero can only get you so far with randoms
unless you never want to play with other people and just stay in your basement, which I suppose is fine too

I'm glad I play with my friends

>>96042499
>said they're unlikely to reverse the last RC bans
What they actually said was that there were some voices on the committee that were interested in discussing making them game changers, but that they wanted to see how the game changer concept was adopted and continued to evolve over the next year before doing so.

It should not have been banned

>>96042530
Wrong picture

>>96042530
I agree with that, even with high cost commanders the only time I saw jewled lotus used was in cedh, dockside and crypt at least make sense but this shit didn't need to be banned

>>96041094
>>96041305
Well, I went and I did it. I decided to make it mostly just an aggro deck for punching with robots, karnstructs, thopters, etc.
https://archidekt.com/decks/14373094/genuine_artifactfocused_mental_illness
Probably the first time I went from 0-100 with Breya instead of 400 with trying to cut down to 100. My only Maybeboard cards are Walking Ballista (as a payoff for infinite or just really big mana), Extinguisher Battleship as a boardwipe/removal piece that turns into a 10/10 for minimal investment, Fable of the Mirrorbreaker to copy artifact creatures for ETBs, Sami for everything has Affinity for Artifacts, and Endstone because drawing cards nonstop feels based.
>>96042514
They said that the only one they'd even consider undoin would be Jeweled Lotus, due to its specific function, so I doubt we're ever seeing Crypt/Dockside back. Thank goodness.
>Captcha; PDH JR

>>96042534
Old cards were formatted like fucking liquid shit

>>96042517
it's identical to the "it's about a 7" "system" that was in place before, except now people make excuses when they drop a Demonic Tutor about how it's totally still a 2, honest

>>96042551
>formatted like liquid shit
>check toilet
>Shahrazad
>I have to stop shitting and do a second, separate shit with the shit I have left before I can finish the first shit

>>96042457
Your store is just being scummy.

>>96042457
Late july is what I have been told
Or if you are in the US, look at costco, they are selling them cheaply along with boosters

>>96042564
If you can't understand this card on first read, you might actually be retarded.

>>96042584
Same, but with Shahrazad.

>>96042554
>some random claimed their deck is a 7
>i believed this random
>fuck he lied to me!
wow it's like wotc having the word of god (because it's their game after all) has by definition more weight than some random bastard complaining about diabolic tutor or saying that demonic is fine because they have a 6 card combo

>>96042347
That is a cool axolotl. Always thought he'd be a cool include but was never sure where to put him in. Which slime wizard were you considering?

>>96042554
>>96042517
The best way to judge power in a sentence or two has always been how many turns it takes if left alone for your deck to kill the table.
If it's 5+ you're a casual deck, if it's <5 you're probably too high power for most tables

>>96042252
As that other guy said, the squirrel is probably your best choice. I've been considering trying this thing too as another extra token guy.

>>96042495
he mad

>>96042495
I hope you ordered an EoE box anon :D

>>96042495
You should consider medication, a crossover (something that people have been doing in media for decades) should not upset you this much.

>>96042632
>>96042642
>>96042643
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-EEEEEEEEEEE

>>96042647
>doesn't buy the product
>expects it to cater to you

>>96042643
>something that people have been doing for decades should not upset you
That’s a horrible fucking metric. By that logic, anything that has been done with any regularity since 2004 should be considered completely acceptable regardless of what it is.

>>96042623
my deck is dimir with 48 islands, 48 swamps, demonic consultation, tainted pact, and thoracle
since i have a chance to win turn 3 i must be cedh

>>96042653
>don't buy product that doesn't interest me
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO BUY IT

Most Hegelian commander?

>>96042653
Not him, but I bought a fuckton of Magic right up until they started doing this UB shit. I was buying the product, and yet it actively made decisions that made me not want to do so any more.

>>96042657
>if I intentionally go out of my way to misconstrue your point then you're stupid!!
Lmao, Media has had crossovers for far longer than 20 years man. It isn't some inherent fault of the medium, it's just something stuff does, and often it's actually pretty cool. You should try not being chronically miserable/angry.
>>96042659
>no you have to buy it
Yeah if you want your opinion heard. buy UW sets in bulk and show WotC how much demand there is for their in-universe sets. It's called voting with your wallet.

>>96042669
I am voting with my wallet, I don't want hat sets that aren't Magic either

>>96040595
No because he is in the wrong colors. Food is an abzan thing primarily. It is very much not red.

WHERE ARE THE GOBLINS! I WAS PROMISED GOBLINS IN SPACE!

>>96042669
The trouble with voting with your wallet is that there are a large number of people who don’t feel strongly one way or the other, so much so that any strong opinions get lost in the noise. It’s not realistic to expect sales data to indicate whether there are more people who actively want it than who don’t, since both groups are outnumbered by the apathetic.

>>96042662
Probably some big gay retard so Sami

>>96040655
>6 mana
Unplayable

>>96042673
So you bitch on 4chan and dont buy anything? Yeah wowyoure really standing up to wotc

>>96042704
I bought Tarkir, because that's something I wanted. They can have my money again when they make something else I want.

>>96042680
>food (white) + burn (red)
>equals food that burns (boros)
i don't see the problem
infinitely better approach to that color then 1284756th boros equipment or token aggro commander

>>96042693
Nice excuse

>>96042708
Then more power to you, but why whine when they make things other people clearly want? Wait for your next set

>>96042715
because the more slop Wizards makes, the worse the game gets

>>96042680
>DEAL DIRECT DAMAGE (from sacricing an artifact no less)!
>genius anon: ermmmm this isnt red actually!

>>96042544
>genuine_artifactfocused_mental_illness
Hahahaha

>>96042717
The game has not suffered one iota from UB sets. I'll gladly agree mechanically unique SLs are cancer though

>>96042720
>food is TOTALLY a red thing
There are two entire red cards in the game that generate food.

>>96042738
How many white ones? He's also white.

>>96042709
The problem is there is no support in red for food so you're basically running mono white with red forced in to cast your commander. It is painfully clear no one here has ever even looked at food cards.

>>96042738
The best food based deck is actually a gruul deck btw

>>96042744
HE MAKES OTHER ARTIFACTS FOOD, YOU DIDNT EVEN READ HIM

>>96042710
So your contention is that the majority of Magic players actively desire more strong black women and trans characters? That's been the trend, after all, and sales are up since they started doing it.

>>96042734
emblems on creatures is objectively a detrimental precedent to set

>>96042760
Yes

>>96042762
Disagree, sounds subjective to me

>>96042738
Lots of food in white and then sacrificing artifacts for damage is a red thing mhm there's more text on the card

After looking into how she actually works I'm fucking sold. She's cute and sounds really fun to play

>>96042769
no

>>96042744
Goblin Welder, Daretti, Slobad.
You do realize that food are artifacts right?

What's the verdict on these adventure lands now that people have had some time to play them?

>>96042788
I built zimone instead.
She still looks fun

>>96042809
Ludicrously overcosted and niche and too much competition for utility lands now. The black one is the only reasonable one if you're not playing Bruvac or something.

What color(s) would he be?

>>96042809
My favorites are Red and Black, the others are just alright
>>96042849
Mardu

>>96042849
Mardu

>>96042809
Fine at bracket 2 I guess. I think they've gone overboard on printing unique single color rare land cycles every set. There's a lot of forgettable ones.

>>96042849
Mardu

>>96042381
you didn't make a food token, you made a treasure token. it's name is "Treasure" and it tap+sacs for 1 mana. the treasure token just happens to also be a food and have the food ability. he doesn't change the token you make, he gives it additional types and abilities.

>>96042809
They're really mid. Not terrible if you have a spare slot, but you're also not missing out not having one.

>>96042809
They’re ok. Kind of only good if you’re already on curve because you’re getting a tapped monocolor land, but I like the idea

What's the best way to break parity and out-burn everyone with this card?

>>96043052
Massive token spam like Krenko

>>96043052
Neriv maybe

>>96041531
>japan gives us kino again

>>96042530
should have been mana for 5cmc or more commanders, low cost commanders should have access to this

>>96042530
just make this a GC gavin, you know wotc needs as little of a banlist as possible to keep cards flowing

>>96043148
It should have said "exile this" instead of sac since it's too damn easy to bring artifacts back. That's the problem with the card, people sac, reanimate, repeat

>>96042530
there wasnt a single game i played where this made the game more fun or interesting

Think this would be good to run in a midrange red green white deck with a lot of equipment? Or is it too slow for its cool effect?

Warp is the best mechanic they have done in a long time

JewLo: sacrifice to add half your commanders MV (rounded up) in any one color of your choice.
I think this would have had no issues

>>96043287
>it's Dash
>but different!
Mobilize and Renew were better.

>>96043287
yeah its simple and doesn't add anything new to the game like dildo tokens or cocksucking counters or "the retard emblem"

>>96043290
Exile instead of sacrifice

>>96040655
Cheerios just got even more CRACKED

>>96043299
The fuck is renew

>>96043380
exhuming corpses and stapling them to your body

>>96042074
Hope you have some snow lands anon

>>96043413
Mono decks should always run snow lands and extraplanar lens for maximum efficiency
Mono red should have this too because it's based

>>96042074
Tibalt's Trickery. I really fucking wish it wasn't named "Tibalt's" Trickery.

who the fuck okayed this textbox

>>96042074
No answer
You gotta better faster

>>96041065
Good Mothman card.

>>96043499
What about it?

to the anon that suggested Moraug as a mono-red to build around, thank you, I enjoyed brewing this one.
https://moxfield.com/decks/0N9pZlfWLEaR-4zl6vPImQ
Am I missing any obvious includes for a pingers strategy?

>>96043794
Not pingers but just for commander synergy I feel like Walking Atlas and Zell Dincht for triggering him

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

I guess I'm building that stupid lobster when it comes out and throwing in all my untap creature effects with lifelink effects

>>96043906
I want to as well not sure what ill do. I have like 3/4 of a phlage cycling deck on my desk along with the bones of my yoshi kediss. An enjoyable boros deck eludes me.

>>96043944
Suicide Anya has been super fun for me, but a Haktos pile based on keeping the board clean with damage based effects not value 2, 3, or 4 has been fun on arena too

>>96043285
Is it human focused? If so then yeah, I could see it working. She's preformed well for me before.

>>96043944
I'm thinking give it lifelink throw in a ton of cheap artifact creatures and academy manufacturer nuka cola vending machine and aetherflux res for when you get over 50 life and gratuitous violence to gain 18 life for each food you sac that's kinda the main idea you can pretty much make the rest of the deck budget boros if you want but the tutors in white can streamline the deck if you want it to be more bracket 3-4

>>96043944
oh and artifact steal cards like treasure nabber and hellkite tyrant to eat other peoples sol rings/wincon

>>96043905
What tool is this?

Post commanders that everyone is sleeping on

>>96044245
>durrr dis game belongs to the piggies now so you should leave!
As ever, drink bleach.

>>96044242
>no you see *my* counter doubler commander is different

>>96044295
This but unironically

>print pic related
>breathe air, draw card
>"designslop" isn't real though!!!!!!!

>>96044332
Designslop schizo strikes again

>>96044332
This card is cool

>>96044242
Cool, it's even more self-sufficient vorel of Hull Clade a 12 year old card. Truly this is the power of Black Girl Magic

>>96044332
I might just throw this in my mono red deck so I can actually draw some cards without having to discard constantly

>>96040595
They should have made a Chef keyword instead of Qu. Food tokens seem to be a staying gimmick and they keep making more and more cooks.

>>96044242
One of the bigger autists at my FLGS played her and none of us would let it hit the board to begin with or if it resolved someone would nuke it. Fuck doublerniggers and even more so in Simic. Guy was a frothing at the mouth madman by the time we finally knocked him out of the game.

>>96044386
You sound gay

>>96044382
Food was never a gimmick and food and chef characters are popular

>>96044388
>t. doublernigger

Sorry to call you out

>>96042680
Retard found

>>96044404
U mad faggot because I called you gay

>>96044406
There are literally no red food cards lmfao

>>96044417
But food is also a white thing and he is indeed white

>>96044332
This is different than landfall, no? You need to play the land to get the draw as opposed to fetching or putting the land in from an effect like the landers in this set?

>>96044398
Mechanic may have been a better word to use but yes I agree. The characters are popular every time and yet they refuse to make the Chef keyword and even acknowledged that they didn't want to make the keyword when they made Qu. It makes no sense to me.

>>96044427
Yeah you have to play it but it would go well with any number of cards that let you play extra lands and/or play lands from your graveyard

>>96044332
>7 mana
>resets you to 20 each time. Not halving, but straight to 20.

It's well balanced. Strong upside, high cmc with a real downside.

>>96044242
>arguably better than Ezuri and Vorel and several other popular simic counters commanders
>but Zimone is also the most fucking forced character in modern MTG
I'm not sleeping on her, I know she's good. I'm just sticking with my reliable old pal Ezuri.

>>96044463
It can heal you doe

>>96044242
Jumpstart got lost in a wave of releases but this ugly bastard. Best blink commander in the format by a country mile and it isn't close. Abdel Adrian and Brago buckle and kneel before the NTR starfish king.

>>96044463
I’m the latter half of the game gaining as much as 19 life at upkeep is nothing but upside.

>>96044463
>real downside
Constantly having your life total reset to 20 if unanswered? That’s not much of a downside. Late game you very well would want to get your life functionally healed for free. If anything id say it would put a target on your head because someone either removes the artifact or everyone gangs up on you to deal 20 damage before you can get through another turn

>>96040208 (OP)
>TQ

>>96044443
>Chef keyword
you seem to be confusing a lot of terminology. you mean a Chef creature type? 'keyword' is stuff like haste, lifelink, equip, ward, etc.

>>96044415
rather be gay than a nigger, nigger.

>>96044623
Rather be Indian than a fag, fag

>>96044332
>more artifact slop

When they do the autopsy on this game it won't be UB that is identified as what killed it, it's the designfags obsession with artifacts.

>>96044651
>wash Artifacts bad
Suicide. Now.
>UB bad!!!!
Suicide. Twice. Now.
>the rest of that shitty take
The post mortem of MTG is going to entirely be the apathy and chronic rage of the depressed, aging demographic with nostalgia-obsessed takes where anything new is bad and are allergic to cool designs. End your life.

>>96044663
Put your trip back on faggot

>>96044651
>>96044679
>I hate creatures, the design team's obsession with creatures is killing the game
>I hate enchantments, the design team's obsession with enchantments is killing the game
>I hate sorceries, the design team's obsession with sorceries is killing the game
these are all equivalently bizarre statements to what you said.

>>96044679
?????????????????????????????????????

>>96044638
NTA but i dont think that's the win you think it is lol

>>96044651
the idea of colorless was a design mistake from day 1

>>96044651
Every set has artifacts have the fuck are you talking about schizo

>>96044620
Yes I am. Mixing terms from different games. But still my message stands I need a Chef tribal.

>>96044679
>he thinks swordfag is based enough to tell you to kill yourself

>>96044663
beyond based

What are some good ways in Izzet to make a lot of Treasure or Clue tokens that don't rely on cast triggers? They don't need to be as efficient as Storm-Kiln Artist, stuff like picrel is about what I'm aiming for.
I've gotten complaints about my Galazeth Prismari storm deck so I'm trying to tone it down a bit with the ceiling on how long its turns can be.

>think Captain America has a cool effect
>"Oh this is secret lair stuff, I think that's usually just reskins, right? Let's see what card it's based off of"
>mfw I find out it's not a reskin
>mfw it's 40 Goddamn dollars
I like Captain America even and I'm not paying that much, fuck that noise

NEW
>>96044853
>>96044853

>>96040286
why isn't he human? I want him in my legendary human deck

>>96040734
It's a they/them so maybe it's a hivemind/swarm.

>>96044623
What you described is literally nigger behavior

>>96044213
https://www.salubrioussnail.com/manabase-tool

>>96042146
>he gave a new player a deck with only 36 lands

>>96042347
I don't like axolotls because they and star-nosed moles entered the collective unconscious of NPCs at some point in the early 2020s and every single game or series with monsters had some form of "check out this giant star-nosed mole, isn't it unique" or "check out this axolotl, isn't it so cute and unique?"
Like no, motherfucker. Everyone's doing it. And it sucked a lot of the creativity and immersion it of those things because they were always so blatant. I want to see cool monsters from another world, not just a regular ugly animal from my world scaled up and called a dragon.

>>96044463
that's entirely an upside

>>96042530
this, it should have never been printed instead

>>96042246
simic

>>96046794
it was mono black