Thread 96042967

Do thing, draw card edition
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>Previously
>>96038225

>TQ
Favorite card that draws a card?

Spot the "designed for commander" legendary

>>96042986
>Food
>Entirely in BG for most of its design history

>The Food legend is WR
These designers literally just don't give a flaming fuck about their game, do they?

>>96042990
because it's not natural food, it's artifact food. look the jello has a gear in it. and boros is (sadly) the artifacts matter color (even though we all know it should actually be blue/black because artifacts are the antithesis of green nature)

Up the beanstalk is the most broken draw engine ever printed in the history of the game.

>>96042986
Is this card even good in coomander? Life totals are basically irrelevant in that format.

Up the beanstalk is the most broken draw engine ever printed in the history of the game, on the same level of Necropotence

>>96042986
All of legendaries are designed for commander, anon.

>>96043001
>Up the beanstalk is the most broken draw engine ever printed in the history of the game
Wrong.

>TQ
My wives.

>>96043005
Paradoxical outcome is not the broken half of any interaction involving it.

>>96043021
Actually, it is. What Outcome does is the textbook definition of Broken: Shit in all circumstances outside the one where it is the best card in the game.

Only playable in red/white.

JP art.

>>96043051
These are so horrible it's unreal.

>>96043063
Fucking hell the only way this could be worse is if they made it a crossover with vocaloid or hololive or whatever

>>96043034
>the textbook definition of Broken: Shit in all circumstances outside the one where it is the best card in the game
NAYRT but that's not what broken is anymore, it's shifted to mean generically powerful in all situations like Frog, Tamiyo, Ragavan etc.

>>96043072
>NAYRT but that's not what broken is anymore, it's shifted to mean generically powerful in all situations like Frog, Tamiyo, Ragavan etc.
Frog, Tamiyo and Ragavan are BUSTED, not Broken.
These are different terms.

>>96042986
Designed for reddit updoots

>>96043078
Please post a single documented instance of anyone making this distinction.

>>96043123
>"I'm too retarded to parse semantic spaces and now will proceed to demand LE SOURCE!!!!!! because of it."
Thinking humans parse information themselves, unlike you.

Have they shown off any repeatable artifact sacrifice outlets in this set? We've already seen over 50% of the set, with a few cards that give you benefits for being able to sacrifice artifacts and a few cards that make artifacts you can sacrifice, but nothing that lets you mass-sacrifice artifacts.

>>96043128
trying a bit too hard to fit in there buddy

>>96043137
I don't care.

White station land got spoiled and it’s probably the worst nonbasic land printed in god knows how many years. Like it’s arguably the worst land in the game that still can be tapped for mana.

Spoiled because it’s so bad it’ll hurt your eyes to read.
ETBT
Tap: add W
Station
12+ counters: 5W, T: make a copy of target artifact or enchantment you control, except the copy is legendary.

>>96043144
>Eusocial
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>96043166
Remember they are not a hivemind. This was repeated 3 times for some esoteric reasons.

>>96043144
>Eusocial
It's Eugenics, but ethical!

>>96043063
damn alien girl

Terrible. What other characters will have multiple cards?

>>96043188
Hey, there's that line Mark teased.
And look, it's unplayable. Nice.

They have larger breast than Chandra.

>>96043201
thank god it's a terrible card.

>>96043201
Not for long!

>>96043051
do any colours have 4 power 3-drops at common?
would be a pretty good curve

>>96043219
No, but we have a shiny new 4/1 Menace with Ward - Discard a Cards for 1B.

>>96043182
>(of an animal species, especially an insect) showing an advanced level of social organization, in which a single female or caste produces the offspring and non-reproductive individuals cooperate in caring for the young.

>>96043188
>>96043201
Boros commander that effectively turns all your equipment into mana rocks, and it's still shit

>>96043149
>5W, T:
haha dear god

>>96042986
you are telling me a shrimp fried this rice?

>>96043149
The red one is shit too, but yeah...

>Sacrifices a creature (of their choice)
>"We made this change because it confused new players!"

>This X...
>"We made this change because it confused new players!"

>(You may warp this card from your graveyard.)
>"We made this change because it confused new players!"

At what point do you realize you should stop courting retards, instead of dumbing down your game?

>>96043247
It's not even just that. You have to tap 12+ power worth of creatures to even be allowed to spend effectively 7 mana for that effect. And I hope you have a good non-legendary artifact or enchantment to copy with it. Once, because the copy is also legendary.

>>96043239
I like these ones.

>>96043281
It's marginally better since you can still copy artifact and enchantment creatures at instant speed, but at 5ww i'm not sure it would ever be worth it. Especially once you factor in the cost (and time) of stationing.

>>96043001
Necro is god tier because its necro
Beans is only so good because wotc keeps printing design mistakes

>>96043149
I simply do not believe you.

>>96043272
When did we get the red one?

>>96043273
When they want to stop making money

I like these arts.

>>96043358
>a bunch of unplayable utility lands
>WOTC is too scary to special print Wasteland because of Timeless in Arena

Cowards, fucking cowards

>>96043368
Wait a fucking minute.
Hedrons were a Zendikar thing, specifically the lithomancy Nahiri taught to Ugin. They weren't natively an Eldrazi thing at all.

>>96043390
So bad it's concerning. What made them print this?

>>96043390
>12+
>ability is still the sort of thing you'd only realistically use in low-to-the-ground, balls-to-the-wall aggro
It's Hammer of Purphoros but you have to convoke it to an absurd degree. Who thought that made any sense? I eagerly look forward to Standard being exactly so retarded that it ends up being meta some fucking how.

>>96043301
Yuna decks could have it stationed in time to curve into the ability + have a good target for it in play.
Putting a tapped mono colour land in your three-colour deck just sucks so much I'm not sure anything wants these.

>>96043401
>>96043403
The best part is that the white / red land effects are supposed to be "on par" with !cradle, !academy and !tower.

Not that I'm implying that any of the station lands are anywhere near playable but the Shivan Gorge meme is still alive and well in 2025.

>>96043390
>Wasting 12 power for joy of being able to SACRIFICE THE LAND and make a ... a........
>2/2

>>>>>>Mythic Rare
AHahahahhahahHAHAHAHAHAH

>>96043390
UH
BROS.....
BROS OUR MYTHIC RARE IS TROUNCED BY A REGULAR MANLAND

BROS HELP. WOTC, HELP. YOU- YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO PRINT THAT IN THE MYTHIC SLOT RIGHT?!

WOTC PLEASE. PLEASE. A REGULAR MANLAND IS BETTER THAN- WOTC PLEASE!!!!

>>96043416
They could have made red add mana equal to the number of instant/sorcery cards in your graveyard and it'd still be weaker than the cradle equivalent.

>do thing draw card
>everything is legendary
>average flavor text is: "We found the Goobagaba Fuggawugga Array. We'll just turn it on. What's the worst that can happen?" -last recorded log.....
MtG is saved!

>>96043419
>SACRIFICE THE LAND
A land. Any land. It's still shit, but let's at least be honest about the level of shit that we're looking at.

Some serious Archangel's Light ahh energy going on with these mythic lands.

F I V E mythic slots on this garbage. Holy fuck.

>>96043416
The black one is possibly playable, it's got the best tools to enable it and the best payoff for Standard.

Imagine paying a bunch of mana and sacrificing a land for minimal effect lol wouldn't that be a terrible card lol

>>96043449
KYS you fucking shill bitch

>>96043416
The white effect is at least somewhat unique, I guess. Not a lot of white copying, and I suppose I can see that being a fun toy for the Format That Shall Not Be Named. This red one, though? Nobody wants it.

>>96043449
>Ramunap Ruins but when it ETBs your opponent gains 12 life
Ah yes, now THAT is power.

>>96043449
run Shivan George instead

Magic is best when the cards are bad.
All Mythics should be unplayable garbage.
Keep the meltdowns coming, shitters

>12+
Seriously though,
What were they thinking?

Serious question Magic experts:
Who and i mean even the most sweaty brewers, Who in the ACTUAL FUCK will play even a copy of station lands? Why the hell would they put such impossible taxes like +12 power counters at SORCERY speed on utility lands?

Designers play this fucking game?

>>96043466
I was about to say: it's not that hard to get that many counters as you can just tap your creatures during your opponents end phase and ramp it up very quickly
>activate only as a sorcery
Never mind. lmao.

Given this thread's track record, I'm starting to think the station lands might actually be good.

>>96043466
I guess i'm not the only one amazed by the absolute shit this cards look like.

Station is probably one of the worst mechanics of all time and not in the broken sense.

>>96043463
>Magic is best when the cards are bad.
>All Mythics should be unplayable garbage
this is true though, but then shilling for a unplayable mythic card is still retarded anon-kun

>>96043466
>>96043470
Well there's also proli--
>ONE rotates out as EOE comes in
Ah. Never mind.

>>96043468
it's a land with upside. it's not hard to find space for 1-2 of those in your deck if it wants the effect, depending on the format.
they're clearly not build-arounds.
not every land cycle has to be broken you retards.

>>96043466
They are thinking you are going to use the 9/9 with Warp 3 for this. However, instead I am going to use that thing to Burn Together, Self Destruct, and use that new 3 mana red aura that does the Chandra's Ignition impression.

>>96043487
>ONE rotates out as EOE comes in
It's like they intended to make the mechanic as bad as possible.

What's the lore behind station cards? Vehicles I get, creature crews the vehicle (although even if you kill the creature in response the vehicle just uh engages autopilot I guess). Simple enough.
What is happening with station? My bigger creature spends a turn to what exactly? Turn the station on?

>>96043496
>What's the lore behind station cards?
Something something market research suggests space set will sell something something make a space ship mechanic or you're fired, you stupid fucking ungrateful designers etc. etc. who cares, fuck you.

This set really fucking sucks and all my hype for it is dead because it sucks.

>>96043489
We are not talking here about broken. We are talking about "playable" faggot. This shit is garbage.

i'm so tired of crew, saddle, station and all sort of similar stuff... it just doesn't work, vehicles and equal permanents just are not good, stop trying to push something will never work in constructed, stop designing cards for tabletop games like cummander. just stop and give us fun interesting cards.

>>96043514
My hype for it died when they first started talking about blasters and spaceships, so join the club. New Capenna, Karlov Manor, Thunder Junction, Duskmourn, and Edge of Eternity have all been disappointing. Hopefully Lorwyn is closer to Bloomburrow and Tarkir.

>>96043504
>>96043514
They just mailed the space set in, really really hard. Spaceships! Space stations! Planets! Warping! Uh...bugs! And...umm...throw some Eldrazi in there, they live in space, right!

Credit where credit is due, the actual story (as in the stories on the MtG website) were decent this time around and naturally none of it is reflected on the cards at all. Same deal with Duskmorne - just complete tonal dissonance between the worldbuilding team and the design team.

Watching the intro video today was painful. "My only goal was to get a space whale in there! You gotta have a space whale!" Bravo.

>>96043526
>Bloomburrow and Tarkir
the two worst formats they've made in years lmao you people...

>>96043526
>Bloomburrow
Mouse package destroyed every relevant format.

>Tarkir
Cutter destroyed every relevant format.

Stop making excuses for this crap. Those sets were garbage just like the others, they're just trash for balance reasons instead of every other reason. Both reasons are inexcusable.

>>96043526
>blasters
Why do they allow (space) guns but not guns?

>>96043548
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS
JUST CONSUME PRODUCT THEN GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT

>waaaaah waaaaaaaah
>the set's land cycle is shit
>if you're not melting down over this you're a shill for Big Shit Card
meanwhile imagine the screeching panic here if [rare land cycle with retarded set mechanic] were actually good and every deck wanted to play 1 copy, much less 4.
you Magic kids are the biggest mongoloids on the internet, willing to wet yourself crying at anything and everything.

>>96043525
Quick! Define FUN and INSTERESTING cards!
You all can do it right?

>>96043565
????????? Man i'm not mad about this set, i like Magic in Space, my boi Tezzeret, i'm waiting for Eldrazis but if one mechanic is garbage, then it is what it is you know? You will play this in your deck?

>>96043573
>one mechanic
Vehicles, but worse.
Revolt, but gay.
Adventure, but broken-er.

That's a three for three shit record, anon.

>>96043573
There is only one actual Eldrazi card and we have seen it already. Same deal with the Sliver card. 100% a hat set, just like all the others.

>>96043595
>There is only one actual Eldrazi card and we have seen it already. Same deal with the Sliver card. 100% a hat set, just like all the others.
Even worse.
The handwaved lore of "ehhh, it's just like that steals shit from other planes!" means it's both a Hat set, AND a Memberberries set.

ABSOLUTE slop garbage. Double slop, even.

>>96043573
literally every set has garbage mechanics that I don't play in my constructed decks, which might see 1-2 cards printed a year for them at most.
doesn't mean I have to come crying on social media every 2 months about whatever crap I'm told I have to feel outraged about.
Station is a dogshit Limited mechanic between Battle and Vehicle (other shit mechanics). They've clearly tried to support it with warp creatures (which is more than the aforementioned shit mechanics got) so we'll see how that effects picking and deckbuilding. It may end up being something you ignore in most of your draft decks so you can curve out and attack the shitters who are tapping out to charge Stations. Which means free wins.
Crying about this shit is like crying about how a Centaur Courser with Start Your Engines isn't good though for your Standard deck.

>>96043541
I said I hoped it would be MORE like those sets, which were trash only for balance instead of being trash for balance and also for everything else. I would prefer a set that is trash on no axis at all, but those are the closest we’ve gotten lately.

>>96043670
>I said I hoped it would be MORE like those sets, which were trash only for balance instead of being trash for balance and also for everything else. I would prefer a set that is trash on no axis at all, but those are the closest we’ve gotten lately.
You know what?
Fair point, mate. A set with one or two busted ass cards, you can ban them and still have a not insufferable garbagefire. Tarkir-like problems are fixable problems. The problems of Goon For Eternity are, unfortunately, forever.

>>96043573
>tutors for ancient one
>ancient one immediately completes station
hmmm

My shitty space set > WotC's shitty space set.

>>96043579
Nothing is worse than Vehicles. God I hate Vehicles. It's closer to Battle (a stinker in the 'hey, anyone remember this mechanic?' category).
And Revolt is a design space that they can't/shouldn't bother revisiting. They aren't allowed to print any good cards with Revolt because fetchlands will turn something like Fatal Push into best-removal-spell-ever tier.
So we're left with this pushed(?) Warp mechanic that the other two set mechanics are designed to synergize with.
Which is reasonable set design, if pretty lazy. I expected EoE to be bad considering it was being made at the same time as most of the work was being done on FF and they'd obviously have everyone competent working on that instead.
Will have to wait to see how it feels to draft. If Warp is too powerful it might suck. It Warp is so weak that the synergies fall apart and you have to ignore all the set mechanics it might also suck.

>>96043693
HOLY SHIT! And for the low low price of 1WWUB, you get a .... 5/5 flier.... ZAMN!

>>96043703
You forgot the 8/8 body which can be used for other purposes. Also the cost being broken into two parts. Also the tutoring for any legendary creature, so you can find other stuff if you already have ancient one. It's not like it'll take over vintage, but you don't need to misrepresent it.

>>96043737
Anon, for 5 mana I can literally kill you in most metas.

>>96043743
Yeah that's why trash 3 mana do nothings and 5 mana fliers are unplayable

>>96043697
> was being done on FF and they'd obviously have everyone competent working on that instead.
Then why FF was a huge weak ass garbage too anon? Maybe they don’t have anyone competent to begin with? Because Fagtasy was a trash of a set too

>>96043769
>3 mana do nothings
Uh, yes. Drawing a card and hurling a Sacred Fire at your opponent's face every single turn.
Much nothing. Very brick.

>>96043769
Are you saying Annex, the culmination of FIRE design is a do nothing and trying to compare it with Station, Anon?

>>96043775
lol you people are no better than animals
>all that matters is a set's power level, me want strong card
you'll never understand a thing in your life. just endless tears.

>>96043769
>The single strongest midrange card ever printed is a do-nothing card
Now this is shitposting.

>>96043793
No, I'm saying anon is being disingenuous at best when trying to claim stuff at 5 mana is unplayable. Station is not going to be annex levels strong, I'm just pointing out the idiocy of the statement.

>>96043777
>needs demons to sacred fire
bro your mana? you only have 2 left before you die

>>96043817
Oh thank god FIN had a 2 mana demon, wouldn't want to die before I'm able to spend 5 mana

>>96043703
But you also get an engine that lets you mill your opponent!

>>96043801
Lmao stay mad loser

>>96043368
Oh good Eldrazi gets to be tier 0 in Historic for months now because nobody at WotC pays any attention to Historic

>>96043854
Spreading Seas is still banned btw

>>96043854
Maybe if they rehire the janitor that was looking after Historic it'd be a decent format

>>96042986
Not going to be surprised when this suddenly becomes a lynchpin deck designed to consistently bolt you for 3-6 every turn (with added 2 damage from munitions) the same way Vivi was supposed to be just a commander card ackshually

>>96043368
If they are printing already this level of cards, what,s stopping them to make Modern a reality in Arena? Just the lazyness?

>asymmetric sliver card
>a-at least they aren't humanoid!
cucks

>>96043898
>incredibly broken card
>nobody is talking about it
I'm not sold on the lobster, but munitions are going to be nasty.

>>96043854
Historic got boros energy nerfs before Modern got the bans.

>>96043939
>... leaves the battlefield...
I, for one, appreciate WotC providing absolutely zero counterplay immediately after announcing Artifacts are now included in the "Dies" wording.

>>96043949
yes and that took months to happen

>>96043900
>what,s stopping them to make Modern a reality in Arena?
there's no real demand for it to happen, we only got a half-assed version of pioneer because arena already had most of the important sets and they wanted to push the standard to pioneer pipeline

>>96043239
New token doubler for my selesnya deck.

>>96043900
Arena is largely F2P players who don't buy into any of the paid formats (Alchemy, Pioneer, Historic, etc).

>>96043953
Just play a 7 cost spell, bro

>>96044033
Rebuild exists (in Modern, at least).

>>96044048
That triggers all the munitions

>>96044057
And how!

>>96044062
I'm a consumer whore!

>>96044062
>>96044073
Did anon have a stroke or is it bots gone haywire?

>>96044079
ABSOLUTE NEWFAG DETECTED

My spoon is too big!

Is it a hats set?

>>96044144
No, it's a costume set.

>>96042967 (OP)
>TQ
Outcaster Trailblazer

>>96044144
From what we can tell, it's not nearly as bad as a hat set. Of course, it's still a novelty set, but that describes at least 90% of the sets since original Mirrodin.

>>96043239
>Choose odd or even. Destroy each creature with mana value of the chosen quality.
>Destroy each creature with mana value of the chosen quality.
>creature with mana value of the chosen quality
>mana value of the chosen quality
>chosen quality
Quality =/= Quantity

>>96044281
Please understand. WotC hires on passion, not competence. English is hard.

>>96043188
At least the art makes it not seem like a tranny

>>96044281
I don't think odd or even are quantities.

>>96044293
More like WotC chose quantity on passion and incompetence rather than quality on design and competence.

>The ENDstone
>"The future is set. The present remains uncertain."
>Art is of some figure who possessed the Endstone but is dissolving into viscera

>"your life total becomes half your STARTING life total, rounded up."

What's the point? Combat and interaction notwithstanding, as long as you have 1 life left, you always have 10 life at the end of turn. It's not the end, it's a Lich effect with NO DOWNSIDE.What a disappointment, somewhere in development they clearly seemed to have this thing be some dangerous "gain advantage but always be under threat of death" kind of thing, but it looks like "gain advantage AND gain insurance against dying"

I have no clue if it's playable at 7, but it sounds so boring. I'm sure commander players will eat it up

>>96043496
They work on the planet's research station.

>>96044323
The downside is that it costs 7. Drawing a card on each spell isn't actually that amazing. The flavor (I assume) is that it's trying to keep you stuck at a certain moment in time (or life total, in this case).

>>96044085
You're deflecting your incompetence. The line is supposed to be said after praising a product. It was also in the wrong order.

>>96044281
>>96044293
>odd or even is a quantity

https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Aeoe+type%3Aland+t%3Abasic&unique=prints&as=grid&order=color

Absolutely hideous basics

>>96044557
The non-fullart ones look above average.

>>96044557
>space lands
This is as retarded as the TBD space lands with the mana symbol in the stars

I’m done with Limited Magic for the year. This set is too silly even for in-verse and then the only other 2 are spidey and avatar. That’s literally the entire second half of the year with no good magic. It’s like staring so long into my phone and then looking up to realize there’s the real world around and me and it’s so….bleak…

As a thought experiment if you really wanted to make station work what creatures would you use?
There is The Mindskinner add The Ancient One what else?

>>96043393
Shut up nerd and buy more products

>>96044744
This nigga. Or that Warpdrazi, really any of these hueg warp creatures will do

>>96044557
Im so suck of ugly borderless lands but I also hate the standard frame because there is too much dead space in the text box

>>96044744
Nessian Hornbeetle since you can build both it and the charges up at the same time

>>96044782
why not just use meme statted creatures if you're gonna warp some garbage in

I will be 100% honest here:

I m starting to dig some of the concepts of this set. I wont say I like the humanoid Kavu, all the space shit, etc... But I think that some of the visuals are cool.
All in all, arts and some aspects of this setting are good and could have been used for a better set because the execution here is terrible.
Station fucking sucks.
Some warp cards are extremely bad and nonsensical (flavor wise).
The "Larger than a planet" threats being small creatures is fucking trash.
The obvious commander target audience makes most of the cards shit.

They could have just said that this "plane" was made by refugees of old phyrexia (after the invasion) and all space ships are copies of the weatherlight/predator skyships and the planets are not like actual planets but more like a bunch of moons or small planets orbiting a main world or something like that.
Also don't make the human empire a bunch of sword welding fags in white slim armor. At least give them "halo" guns (and don't make all of them black people...).
I hate that they don't try to hide that the designs are a bunch of reddit/twitter fags with no imagination and who mostly try to copy shit from others instead of trying to create their own things.

What's the quick rundown on the story on edge of eternities? You always give me a great summary broskis.

>>96041297
>>96041271
why not both?

Is there a recommended tutorial video or doc covering the absolute basics for retards of normal Magic and Commander?
Hate to ask to be spoonfed, but to make a long story short; I got a friend that's been down lately and he was telling me about him going to a local place to play casually with some fellas. He's a great guy so I thought I'd surprise him next week and maybe buy one of those constructed FF decks I think they have at the store and do a few rounds with him if it's not horrifying to figure out for a total novice.

>>96044888
https://media.wizards.com/2025/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020250606.pdf

>>96044904
Much obliged

These station cards are so fucking horrible that I have to wonder if the designers even play this game. Like seriously, the station values are like double the amount for them to be playable in any real format

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtVykGcgT98
Please brothers report this animal for playing premodern on jotc software.

>>96044939
they are "balanced" towards Commander more likely than not.

tho in this set you "cheat" with Biosynthic Burst
and Loading Zone

>>96044407
It is when you become fully troonified and loonified, become the perfect retard, a loony troony 4channy.

>this used to be a top tier creature
Take me back

>>96045001
Just play pauper, bro. Caw Gates is top tier.

>>96044026
Alchemy is noobs playing starter decks or FF block constructed.. plus a few people farming them for imaginary points on whatever comically broken Alchemy-only cycle of rares/mythics got released in the latest set, which will get nerfed when the next set comes out and rotates them.
Historic is noobs playing starter decks and crap like their old angel-tribal deck vs people farming them on the same half dozen meta decks that dump all over another dead Arena-only meme format where interaction isn't allowed.
Pioneer is dead, just a wasteland of people who want to play Phoenix vs RDW shitters farming dailies after their deck got banned in whatever format they used to play.

>>96044888
download Magic Arena and play with the starter decks
then find out what format he plays and watch beginner-friendly YouTube videos of it

>>96043693
this god is about to see some serious shit.

>>96042990
It's mainly because they are out of ideas so they just put mechanic in other colors to create new cards like how energy went from being UGR to UWR because they needed to create a new commander.

>>96042967 (OP)
>TQ
Heal https://scryfall.com/card/me3/14/heal
Braingeyser
Necropotence
Wheel of Fortune
Wall of Blossoms

How is EoE feeling as a new set?

>>96045271
It's total shit.
The story was a'ight though, gay shit notwithstanding. Shame the set doesn't reflect that.

>>96045273
Tis a shame then. I put down my Land-Planet. heh.

>>96045271
This (>>96045273), but ironically it's probably my favorite set of the year.

>>96045279
>but ironically it's probably my favorite set of the year.
Not a high bar to beat.

Huh? I can't post images?

>>96045073
Pauper isn't bad player friendly tho :(

>>96042967 (OP)
I thought it was a Oblivion Stone reprint
https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/373/oblivion-stone

>>96045312
It's ok bro, you can become a decent player

>>96045271
STATION is definitely a failed mechanic but I see card with potential outside the set itself

Tezzert
Moonlit Meditation
Starfield Vocalist
Sothera, the Supervoid
Weapons Manufacturing
Timeline Culler
Tragic Trajectory
Larval Scoutlander + Sami's Curiosity
Diplomatic Relations (will be a riot assuming not errata)
Loading Zone
The Endstone
Thrumming Hivepool

>>96042986
Seriously no one believe in the lobster? Could be amazing in the right deck

>>96045312
zone of proximal development brudda
you get betta fasta by playing with betta players

>>96045359
Pair him with Weapons Manufacturing and it does 5 a pop

Just realized how insanely broken this card is.

>>96045359
Sure, he could. But I just find these commander bait cards so boring

>>96044144
>>96044260
Good example.
Marchesa leaving the throne she killed to get so she can go play cowboys = hat set behavior
Perpetually down on his luck Tezzeret captaining a ship to get macguffin to give him more evil power, that's just typical Tezzeret shit.

>>96045312
Eh, I just play Red Tron, with it. I would have fun with it even if I don't win. But the lower power level of the format offers a lot of opportunity to make mistakes and still win.

>>96045312
surely you could just play burn or something similarly linear

>>96045447
he wants to play with squadron hawk bro

>>96045386
how is it broken? it's Control Magic but worse.

>>96045312
It's 2025, just play your broken cards and let them carry you, you don't need skill to play the game

>>96045386
>Kitnap
>Not a fox

>>96045468
The most broken card in pauper are the init retards and those lose you the game half the time.

>>96045402
>Make a mistake in pauper
>Get ran over because of snow balling
But you do play a tier z deck so lmao

>>96045515

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little scrub? I'll have you know I am the top player in the Weekly FNM, and I've been involved in numerous deck building preprs for Paupergeddon, and I have over 300 confirmed wins. I am trained in aggro warfare and I'm the top midrange in the entire European pauper league. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with plays the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shut to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my hacker network of spies across the USA and your MTGO account is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your positive winrate. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can maul you 2-0 in over seven LGS and MTGO leagues, and that's just with my Red Tron deck. Not only am I extensively trained in playing pauper, but I have access to all the top decks for Legacy and I will use them to their full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of MTG, you little shut. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shut fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

>>96045535
kek saved

>The endstone
>the aetherdrift
>loot
>the dragonstorm

Why these "legendary things that everyone is looking for " are mechanically unplayable, even in commander? At least the One ring see play.

apparently MTGA is getting not just Eldrazi Temple but also Strip Mine and Ancient Tomb.
its Timeless format might finally become something other than Duel Deck: SnT vs Energy

>>96045571
You mean like the Mirari, the Legacy Weapon, and That Which Was Taken?
It's nothing new, the strongest cards are almost always insigificant in the plot.

>>96045671
>It's nothing new, the strongest cards are almost always insigificant in the plot.
except some PW n that bitch Sheoldred

>>96043212
>I AM LOOT XD
I want to hurl this piece of shit straight into the bowels of the Blind Eternities and watch as the endless hordes of Eldrazi brutally molest him for all of eternity.

>>96045656
Until FoW and Daze get there 90% of the decks will be unplayable, tomb only makes show & tell and spy combo more fast and consistent.
It should lower the number of energy decks at least.

Second Planeswalker revealed

>>96045747
Finally a new Divine Intervention
I love forcing draws

What was the best iteration of the Vintage cube?

This is the only PW i will need the following months

>>96045511
Pretty sure kit is any young fox-like animal in size. Like rabbits.

>>96044841
>They could have just said that this "plane" was made by refugees of old phyrexia
I was expecting something like Integral Trees, where you have a vast area free of gravity (technically everything's in freefall) but full of breathable air. Or that other science fiction novel i can't remember the name of, where human colonists accidentally enter a universe where the gravitational force is a billion times stronger. Their ship collapses under its own weight but it's okay because that same gravity means the galaxy is thick with breathable air. Basically i was expecting fantastical elements that would allow the "spaceships" of this setting to be more like the Weatherlight too, with open decks

>>96045873
Found the other one, Raft by Stephen Baxter

>>96045873
>Their ship collapses under its own weight
And their bones don't?

>>96045811
I play a 90% brown artifact deck in standard with enigma jewel, hedron archive, boom box, esoteric duplicator, ugin, etc
I would not touch this crap ass card with a 10 ft pole
what the fuck are you going to accomplish by tutoring up a 1 drop for turn 4? and leaving a 1 loyalty walker who dies to a sneeze
its going to be hard enough to protect him at 4 loyalty he probably does nothing the turn he comes down, then dies to some hasty threat before you can untap with him
none of his modes are relevant, even his fucking ultimate sucks

for 3 mana I would rather cast Urza's Sylex and have some chance of not dying

>>96045903
>in standard
There's your problem

>>96045811
I like that you can hit him with United Battlefront in the Synthesizer deck.
but that's all I like about him. card does nothing in Standard. maybe you get to mainboard a Ghost Vacuum/Soul-Guide Lantern and randomly hate out the occasional graveyard deck (for 4 mana) but that's your best case scenario.
You probably run Vacuum/Dusk Rose Reliquary/Candy Trail as his targets. The new set would have to print a crazy 1 mana artifact to consider him doing anything (I guess Enigma Jewel is actually decent with him but it's only for meme decks)

>>96045901
What would the gravitational force of one billion humans be?

>>96045811
>not an artifact planeswalker
Boo.

>>96046078
It's a simple equation, anon.

>>96045811
you're untapping your simulacrum constructs with tezzeret to station ulthos on turn 4

"In my main phase I will tap Sephiroth to station my spacecraft and in the battle phase I will Waterbend your blocking Spiderman" is now a cohesive phrase you can legally say in Standard in 2025.

>>96046103
So why did you ask "why don't the humans' bones break under their own weight?"

>>96045903
I play gw cage with glasshulk and my deck already wants to tutor 1 drops and has a good artifact count.
This guy is like glasshulk 5-8 that you can llanowar on turn 2.
In fact, llanowar into tezz gives you 5 mana on turn 3.

>>96046052
>>96045903
I'm convinced
tezz will be a meta staple.

>standard cards in new set are either a weak clumsy gimmick or extremely overpowered and gamebreaking
When will this stop?

>>96046110
>Waterbend
If I don’t get a serialized, textured holo-foil Ty Lee, I’m gonna kill myself.

Do not kill yourself, it's a sin unto Lord.

>>96046107
Explain how you're getting 3 constructs out turn 4.

>>96046205
When all the jews and minorties are expelled from hasbro and wotc.

>>96046107
This should be the safest BET to STATION (land interaction is raree) and somehow they hve the worst fuckinng possible abilities

Honestly they should just print Urza Saga in Standard, it won't make any meta difference

>>96046205
can you name even one OP/Gamebreaking card from edge of eternities

>>96046231
t1 uthos t2 Emissary escort t3 warp bygone colosus thats 18 power

>>96046254
gee maybe the 4/1 menace ward - discard a card that only costs {1B}

>>96046231
t1 cecil
t2 ancient one
t3 tapped planet, any 2 power creature -> station 12

>>96046349
That's a neat commander, but care to answer the question?

>>96046349
>6 mana

>>96046254
Have you been paying attention to the spoilers?
>green 3/2 that prevents damage prevention, stops counterspell, and has haste
>warp eldrazi that lets you put free stuff into play

Free Magicestine

Simple, effective common.

>>96046356
>>96046362
if you can't figure out how to break all spells have affinity with cards like ugin and the endstone in standard you can't be helped

And a 1 mana 1/1 deathtoucher... Except artifact now.

>>96046393
why would you play this over spectral sailor?

>>96046401
why would they even design such a boring fucking "we added a type" card in the first place when we already have
>ankle biter, ashnod, flesh mechanist, bilious skulldweller, cecil, dark knight, dragon sniper, engine rat, gran pulse ochu, tinybones, the pickpocket
which are ALL standard legal

>>96046417
Please try playing limited sometime, it's still the best format

>>96046417
>why would you play this over spectral sailor?
2 mana is less than 4 mana to draw a card, and it dying isn't that important.

>>96046401
Give me mythic/rare good robots faggots not draft chaff

>>96046393
F
F

>>96046401
>can't be target by shoot the sheriff
>can't be target by go to the throat
>tutorable with Tezzerret

Why Robot and not Construct?

Wizards are doing everything in their power to make colorless have the strongest top end in the game I just don't get it

>>96046401
ooo, dt assassin will slot right into my etrata deck

>>96046471
Construct is a broader term, and robots are more technologically-based. A golem is magically-made, a robot is made by tech, a construct is sort of a broad category where everything else is.

>>96046466
4 Poison counters with Fynn and Virulent

>>96046417
This can block an attacker and draw a card for 2U at instant speed. While that is typically a limited line of play, it is decent sometimes in constructed formats too.

>>96046477
whats so powerful about colorless top end?
all I can do with my board of hedron archives, ugin, locus, boom box, duplicator is uh
exile every permanent you control that's one or more colors
destroy every land, creature and artifact you control
leave you with a board of no permanents at all
attack you with a 40/40 manland

this has to be one of the biggest design mistakes in recent history colorless board wipe that also destroys a land oh and its a 10/10 flying trample

>>96046471
Self-contained tribal like mice and otters, etc.

>>96046513
Where do you think this will see play?

>>96046513
>destroy a land in the eighth turn
Wow so broken woah

>>96046524
edh

This sure is a limited card.

>>96046513
Its 8 mana, it doesn't reliably sweep the board or kill lethal threats, and it takes a stupid station cost to become a creature itself
This is one of the least impactful 7+ mana cards you can cheat out
In fact in most game states its going to have less impact than a 4-5 mana card
Its going to be worse than just casting sunfall

For 8 mana you can get something that just straight up destroys all creatures and enchantments and draws you that many cards
You can get a 6/6 flying that gives your team of 4 creatures +5/+5 and flying until end of turn for insta lethal
You can get 12x 2/2 knights on a 3/3 indestructible who pumps his team to be 51 damage in a single swing

>>96046547
wow, This is garbage

>>96046547
I need something to keep the condensation on the outside of my drink can from getting the wooden table wet

>>96046513
To be fair dealing 4 is not exactly a board wipe.

>>96046575
current meta is go wide more than go big

why are we seeing commons and uncommons? I thought they first spoil all the juicy rares and mythics and leave this shit for the last days

>>96046601
they're working their way up to spoiling the biggest reveal of the set, a 3 mana murder in green, as a common

>>96046605
I swear if that card do turns out to be self bite

>>96046548
my point is that colorless are getting effects that they just shouldn't have access to at an alarming rate, artifacts are already such a pushed architype these days

>>96046547
Good art. Even though it screams storm at the sea and not space.

This was also officially revealed but everybody knew it already because this is the leakiest goddamn set.

>>96046513
Portal to Phyrexia is a card that did nothing in a format with multiple ways to get it on the board for 4 MV.

>>96046627
graveyard hate is too easy to sideboard

>>96046620
>because this is the leakiest goddamn set.
wrong Alll will be One someone streamed opening whole Box Set.

>>96046547
I wouldn't even put this in my limited deck.

>>96046633
You think you are going to pay 8 straight up for Extinguisher? Its time to stop posting.

>>96046642
You know the neil patrick harris godbook was leaked like a month in advance with every single card right

>>96046620
>do a thing
>do a thing or another thing
Wooooow. Peak magic right here.
>all this for 3 cc a 2/4 body and effect so widespread it could be a plains walker
I'm legitimately sorry your game is dead. I played in a time that this would cost 6cc and be weaker.

>>96046620
>leakiest goddamn set
How fucking new are you?

>>96046662
>20+
20+
>20+
20+
>20+
20+
>20+
TRAAAAASH

>>96046620
>Whole Set
we are at 118 Cards of 300, NOT EVEN HALF

>>96046696
I never said the whole set. I said it has more leaks than average, it feels.

Free instant sac outlet isn't nothing.

>DTT variant
>Deadly Dispute variant
>Bone Splinters variant
>token doubler
>counter doubler
>do thing, draw a card
>Panharmonicon variant (now a blue 3/4)
>Blood Artist

All the cards that seem even vaguely Constructed playable are just variants of the same old cards

The ones that seem to actually try new shit are also for some reason low powered or even just Limited chaff

>>96046663
No i think i'm going to cheat charge counters on my stations while I flicker cards I warped in

>>96046393
I will play this in faeries and I will be extremely happy

>>96046726
That's very good. Std (and pio) doesn't have a good sacrifice outlet.

>>96046726
better than bart in a lot of decks

>>96046726
That's quite alright.

>>96046739
Doesn't Bart work? Or does legendary + more restrictive cost make him less useful?

>>96046726
God damn, black aggro is getting a deep pool of playables in EOE.

This thing is pretty good. One more mana than Viscera Seer but Surveil is way better than Scry and being able to use artifacts as well is great. Gets a 3/2 statline, too.

>>96046684
The numbers on some of these I really don't get. Maybe some commander games are like that but in the magic I know it sounds like magical christmas land. Like that Gaea's Cradle, you play it tapped, play your creatures, tap your creatures and then you get to do the thing, but at that point what are we ramping into that we aren't getting a wrath or that attacking wouldn't have won?

>>96046748
bart is good and better than phantom train but umbra lets you dig and fill the grave, seer is 1 cheaper but is a staple in some combo decks

>>96046756
I think they're numbered with the intent that you'd gonna Loading Zone/abuse Warp to pump them up, but it's still VERY high.

You're an employee at Wizards of the Coast. Your job is to ruin formats. Your work is almost done. What will you do to premodern?

>>96046770
Seer is also not Pio/Standard legal.

>>96046726
FUCKING FINALLY

>>96046783
don't have to do anything, it's already shit

>>96046726
>3/2 for 1B that also is surveil visera seer
What the fuck

>>96046748
He's okay but being 2 color and legendary is a big ask. And generally surveil 1 is better than growing bigger.

>>96046726
actually busted in aristocrats
bart #5-8 in the decks that want it, and better than him in a lot of cases

>>96046783
Players who run culturally offensive cards in unsanctioned paper events will have their MTGA / MTGO accounts suspended without compensation and be permanently banned from WPN events

>>96046726
not the best rare but the synergy is there

>>96046726
must have for roots decks

>>96046833
I feel like thats going to get broken somehow
like the cauldron interaction by some means

how does the time stamp / layers work
if you put a +1/+1 counter on a creature you reanimated with this ability, does it have the abilities from cauldron, or no abilities?

>>96046783
>What will you do to premodern?
I make it an official format with a sanctioned banlist
I will also begin the development of premodern masters with exclusive new cards to make the format Fun, Inviting, Replayable and Exciting!

>>96046833
>actual skeleton in the art
Oh boy time to offend the chinks

>>96046726
>Rares and Mythics
Absolute shit
>Commons and Uncommons
Powerful nearly busted cards
Why is this?

>>96046854
I think it will have the abilities from cauldron because it doesn't say it loses all abilities just that it does not have them, I can already think of a few infinites but cauldron just feels like cheating it so easy to break

>>96046833
Is this the first reanimate creature on tap creature without any downsides?

>>96046854
It comes back as a base stats version of the creature with no abilities, then putting a counter on it gives it abilities. I think. It doesn't statically 'have no abilities', this version of the creature doesn't have any to begin with, such as it is.

>>96046899
feels like it but the reanimated creature does become a vanilla which is a downside

>>96046867
It's quite interesting that Nosewater single-handedly created all the banned cards.

>>96046833
I'm gonna have so much fun with this

>>96045285
https://hololive-mtg-proxies.neocities.org/talents/liz

>>96046908
I absolutely missed the no abilities clause.

>>96046898
>>96046900
I need a judge because I think it matters timestamp doesn't it?

The cauldron had to be on the battlefield first in most relevant cases
It has a static ability that gives abilities to creatures. That static ability is timestamped at the moment cauldron enters, not the creatures get a +1/+1 counter, right?
Xu-Ifit says "it has no abilities", and is timestamped when you use the ability

Both ability adding and ability removing are handled in layer 6

>Layer 6: Ability-adding effects, keyword counters, ability-removing effects, and effects that say an object can’t have an ability are applied.
and it says:
> Within layers 2–6, apply effects from characteristic-defining abilities first (see rule 604.3), then all other effects in timestamp order (see rule 613.7). Note that dependency may alter the order in which effects are applied within a layer. (See rule 613.8.)

and rule 613.7 says:
>613.7a A continuous effect generated by a static ability has the same timestamp as the object the static ability is on, or the timestamp of the effect that created the ability, whichever is later.

The timestamp of granting the ability is when soul cauldron entered. The timestamp of removing the abilities is when the ability of xu-shit was activated
therefore first it adds all abilities, then removes all abilities, leaving it with no abilities
right?

>standard showdown promo is monstrous rage

Oops

>>96046951
I think it's different because it's not 'removing abilities', it's making a version of the card that never had any.

>>96046951
that is of course depending on whether "it has no abilities" is qualified as
>ability-removing effect
or if its a
>text-changing effect
because then its at layer 3 which is much lower

afaik there are no cards in the history of the game with that templating so I don't know

Going to my first large premodern event. The ritual poster is right!

>>96046971
Yeah, closest we've got is, I think, cards that make token copies without abilities?

>>96046951
Has no abilities would just mean you treat it like a vanilla the moment that it is summoned, unlike a creature that is actively has an effect on it like being enchanted with loses all abilities

>>96046892
Commander slop

>>96046983
yeah and copying values is definitely handled in layer 1
text changing abilities are in layer 3, but it purposefully excludes ability-removing effects and really specifies that it only applies to effects that actually change words in cards, like cleave, splice or hacks, and Volrath's Shapeshifter or name-changing

so I'm pretty sure that the only thing that matters is whether you played soul cauldron before activating the ability. If soul cauldron was already on the battlefield, the creature should wind up with no abilities from it. But if you made a no-ability creature, played cauldron, and gave it an ability, THAT one creature would keep the ability, but any more creatures you reanimate without abilities, won't

>>96047057
whiteschizos we eating good this spoiler season, this card is total ass

>>96047066
All the Mythic Planets are ass. Meanwhile Zenith exists.

Interesting use of Warp, I guess?

And another dogshit Spacecraft.

>>96047057
My dune...

>>96047104
This one is basically an adventure that can die

>>96047114
Like this should be... 3 mana or so, right? 5 is absurdly high for what it is.

>>96046783
Premodern Masters with several juicy reprints that also tempt players with new reprints of cards new to Premodern.

A couple years later, Premodern Horizons.

>>96047119
The entire mechanic is basically an adventure variant

>>96047057
I'd run this in my binder of worthless piece of shit mythic cards
not even close to dethroning the WOAT but good effort

EDIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I TRIED TO UPLOAD A PICTURE OF ARCHANGELS LIGHT TO MOCK THIS CARD
AND SOMEONE ALREADY DUPLICATE FILE IN THIS THREAD
ARE YOU SHITTING ME>>96043438
>>96043438
>>96043438
>>96043438
>>96043438
what the fuck anon
why are we BOTH comparing these lands to archangels light independently
I didn't read your post until now

Also 5 bonus sheet cards were revealed on that same reveal, I'm too lazy to grab each, but it's Cascading Cataracts, Contested War Zone, Endless Sands, Inventors' Fair and Petrified Field.

>>96047152
Wait, it's 7, I just gave up counting, Power Depot and Scavenger Grounds too.

>>96047057
I don't understand these cards. They feel like they have the same problem of battles. The 12 power I use to station them is 12 damage that is not going to my opponent's face. Too much of a tempo loss that's only really worth doing during board stalls. Feels like they could be worth running as 1-off if they didn't enter tapped.

The Red Planet is also dogshit.

>>96047114
dear god this is the worst costed one so far
it even LOOKS like the card its making a mockery of

there has only been a single station card that's giving its effect at base rate value and its just a roiling regrowth at sorcery speed

>>96047166
They are all designed for commander. Does this change your evaluation of it?

>>96047166
Feels like they're playing Station WAY too safe and I don't know why?

>>96047171
All those requirements and you STILL have to sacrifice a land??

>Every EVERY single planet card is trash
What a fucking waste bros.

>all planets get spoiled
>pic related is still the best planet
lmao

>>96047189
There's a card that allows you to play lands from gy in this set.

>>96047173
Crusher should be 3 AT MOST, it's amazing how bad it is.

>>96047171
what a fucking waste of a cycle

>>96047205
Even if it cost 2 mana it would be worse than chainsaw in almost every deck
who the fuck is going to tap 8 power of creatures to give themselves a 1/5 flying firebreathing

even if you had that as a fucking EMBLEM given to you for free at the start of the game, repeatable, with no cost, you'd never activate it
chainsaw is a relevant equipment

>>96047198
are we confirmed only mythic 5 planets, no chance we get a single playable planet in standard?

>>96047262
I think there might be other Planets but I'm not sure.

Wait where are the good cards?

>station only as a sorcery

WHY??

>>96047114
I will never understand why WotC has a hateboner for firebreathing these days.

>OH AFTER 10 TURNS YOU FINALLY PUT 12 COUNTERS ON YOUR PLANET LAND
>CONGRATULATIONS BRO NOW GO GET A BASIC LAND

>>96047293
because if you could actually hold your creatures as blockers and then station at the end of your opponents turn, the mechanic wouldn't be complete dogshit and unplayable in every format even including limited apparently

>>96047293
cause its "Permanent"

You can use summoning sick creatures to station, so there is that as a lategame option for creature decks

ETB tapped probably still means they're DOA though

Don't expect much from this set, but so far we have been delivered at least one set of cosmically (enhanced) breasts.

>>96047325
what matchup would you ever be in where you feel safe tapping out your blockers to station some garbage planet/spacecraft

>haste creatures roll into you
>flash creatures on your end step, then attack
>ride's end eats your tapped creature
>split up becomes a one-sided sweeper
>opponent just bounces your station with an into the floodmaw as the trigger is on the stack to hit 12

>>96047240
3 mana for any target 3 damage with upside is at least 'a thing that could see limited play'. Chainsaw is good, obviously, but Debris Crusher is just nothing.

>>96046620
>literally rip off dune
Hacks. Frauds even.

>>96047351
Sorry anon, but I prefer my angels to be stacked. Even the ones made up of space stuff.

>>96047311
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>96047367
What?

>>96046620
Is this the only good card (for non-Commander formats) to have come out?

>>96047440
Zealot's fantastic. >>96046726

>>96047440
Loading Zone

>>96047176
COMMANDER IS A MULTIPLAYER FORMAT WHY WOULD YOU FUCKING DESIGN FOR IT, IF ONE PLAYER IS WINNING THE OTHERS JUST BEAT HIM UP

NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT Edition
>>96047514
>>96047514
>>96047514
>>96047514
>>96047514

>>96047440
This one is going to be huge in vintage decks with street wraith, gitaxian probe, grief, ephemerate, etc and the full set of mox

>>96047549
>he thinks 2 mana draw 1 is playable IN VINTAGE

>>96046892
The new play boosters require rares to be weaker as to not overtake the game and commons to be stronger to deal with rares.

>>96043133
Ohh yes we have

>>96046052
Grim bauble is okay too

>>96046756
I have a bracket 2 simic counters deck that often has a 20/20 with no profitable swings sitting around on turn 5

>>96047114
Kek

>>96053137

Oh, my heart's vaporizing as the temperature's rising and I can't feel my legs below my knees anymore.