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Dr. Seuss Edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>no tq
>mfw

TQ: Have you ever given/gotten a MtG christmas gift, anon?

>>96052241
I tried.

>>96052243
I gave my nephew a pack of Bloomburrow because he likes animals and I was giving his brother a couple Pokemon packs and didn't want him to feel left out

>TQ
The year after my house burned down and I lost my entire collection my mother bought me a booster box of onslaught for christmas.
That's about it, and that was over 20 years ago.

>>96052243
>TQ
Gave my buddy a Sliver Overlord a few years back

How do you feel about deck spiraling

>>96052243
No.
My pod did gift me a "sorry your family member died" present which was a deck they built for me but that wasn't Christmas.

>>96052243
My grandfather and his wife got me a shrinkwrapped pile of random cards from who knows where. It was all shit but still appreciated.

ayo where the slop at

>>96052243
TQ: As much as I gave that one shitposter trouble for an 'edh party' he claimed to attend; my playgroup did have a holiday party where the host randomly everyone gave everyone a random mythic or other cool card. One year I got a Sylvan Library and last year I got an Urza's Ruinous Blast.

I made cookies last year, I should make them again this year.

>>96052264
is that jon blow

>>96052243
A few years(?) ago a birthday gift bag of different stuff from my mom had a single dominaria jump start booster in it, she said the cashier said I would like it.

How do I build him? I got a lot of undying, some death-trigger mass-life-drain guys like Zulaport Cutthroat, Corpse Knight, Cruel Celebrant, etc.. I don't know if I should put some one-time token generators like Secure the Wastes, just in case I can't keep my commander out. I don't know if I should lean into mana dorks, to take advantage of looping from undying. My deck is complete, can't post the list but it's got shit like the enchantment from the new tarkir set, the Citadel Siege, loads of other shit. Even bought a Cathar's Crusade just to be extra obnoxious. Any advice?

>>96052289
There are exactly two ways to build ghave. Thallid/saproling-producer tribal, or "Oops I Didn't Realize This Went Infinite Together," there is no in-between.

>>96052227 (OP)
ive been play testing this all day and decided to just order my cards, im still gonna work on the actual list when i get everything irl but man, im already falling in love with this deck, just the testing has been fun
im really fucking excited to get everything and start playing her IRL
her playmat is on sale on the website and im considering picking it up

>>96052276
Around

>>96052358
but anon, we don't even know which part of her is elf, ooze, or wizard

>>96052243
>TQ: Have you ever given/gotten a MtG christmas gift, anon?
Not Christmas, but I have a friend super into horror films that I gifted 5 Duskmourn boosters for her birthday

>>96052359
>>96052276
Get out.

>>96052358
Interesting file name

>>96052363
im fine with all 3

Anyone else building?

>>96052384
>Lobster is my spirit animal
>Boros is my favorite color combo
>I love artifacts
I sure as fuck am now that I know he exists.

I feel like I am always a fairly large threat with this guy as my commander, but the deck is so miserable to play in paper.

>>96052372
No.

>>96052388
are you snippy

>>96052394
Please?

>>96052397
Sure am.

>>96052384
Yeah, my plan is to run liquimetal coating and a bunch of act of treason effects to eat my opponents' creatures

>>96052388
are you a tricky lobster person

>>96052388
How does one get a "spirit animal"

>>96052415
You don't "get" one, you just have one, you must look inward to find it.

>>96052415
So first of all you load up e621 and click “popular”

Anons, I come to you for guidance. Im obssesed with building wizard tribals, ideally with mechanical difference. Which commander or archetype could I build? I have blink, burn, prowess, x spells, self-mill

>>96052384
Can someone explain to me why the fuck he makes food explosive? Is it thematic of his diarrhea shits or something?

>>96052358
Crazy that they put an uncommon-tier effect on her

>>96052429
Hes a gastronaut anon

>>96052426
mono white wizards

>>96052434
Is that a yes?

>>96052401
No.

>>96052429
he's white red

>>96052437
interesting, do you have a commander suggestion? I just saw the new angel wizard

>>96052429
He can eat the food but it's toxic/bad for others

>>96052444
This image is slop

>>96052465
Your dick is slop

>>96052470
I wish her >>96052358 dick was slop

>>96052456
But the player who sacs the food eats the food. That’s why that player normally gains life. We can’t all be eating the food you sacked. Are we being force-fed? Why would I not simply refuse to eat it? How are you force-feeding me in the middle of our planeswalker battle?

>>96052358
I did not buy her playmat because I realized the elesh norn playmat was on sale and my dick made me buy it

>>96052465
It’s okay if you like crossoverslop or designslop but I don’t get when you take it so personally when other people call it out. It’s like the very essence of who you are experiences pain when someone says “you’re enjoying slop actually”

>>96052497
he's the chef, he's serving everyone food (treasure tokens). it's (junk tokens) served to everyone on the ship.
it's what's for breakfast, anon (it's a solemn simulacrum).

>>96052384
My queen now has her king! See you as the next pride, homos.

>>96052535
I'll see you at envy sooner

>slopanon is back
>still not showing a single example of nonslop

Forty (40) starting life is superior to any other number bandied about by people who don't play Magic.

>>96052549
there ARE multiple sloppa enjoyers you know

>>96052243
My cousins love mtg and Nintendo so I got them a Pokemon-themed precon and a Zelda-themed precon (proxies) and some sleeves for them.
Pokemon-loving cousin used his once.
Other cousin never even looked at the deck and just used the sleeves for draft.

>>96052570
He's referring to the guy who calls everything slop, and you and the other guy(s) are pathetic and shameless for posting AI crap

>>96052549
>only 1 person in the world can say the things I like our slop and my ego depends on a delusion in which I can manipulate this one fictional person into derailing his own point by engaging with my bait
We need a catchy name for what type of schizo you are. You’re probably my second least favorite schizo, just about the calls everyone schizo schizo. Of course if you’re the same guy you save us all a lot of time

>>96052289
Anon ghave has been around for 14 years, every single brew ends up being oops all infinite +1counters/death triggers/tokens. He's a solved commander.

>>96052581
I don’t care if you call things slop or hate things I like. Its just funny how you refuse to provide an example of a commander you like because you know it's even gayer than do thing draw.

>>96052581
>our slop
jajaja

I really like playing Arcades but it's annoying how since it's such an obviously huge part of the deck that every player will hold removal just for it even when there's a dozen better targets.

if I cycle a card, then copy the cycle ability, does that count as another cycle

>>96052625
I hate his Barney ass face

>want to play ninjas
>only commander worth using is yuriko
>want to play vampires
>only commander worth using is edgar
>want to play enchantments
>only commanders worth using are sythis or the 5c shrine

>>96052641
was with you until the last one

>>96052638
I hate his art in general but really like defenders. He deserves a new print damn it.

>>96052658
Need one with Larry the Lobster

>>96052641
satoru, yes any, even the broken one. satoru plus the goblin and you can run yuffie as well. unless for some reason you want to run the green ninjas.
unfortunately I do agree with you on this one.
play ghen with me.

>>96052641
Fake vampire fan play play orzhov vampires and use amalia or astarion

>>96052637
No.

>>96052641
>want to play enchantments
>only commanders worth using are sythis or the 5c shrine
now that's just not true

>worth using
Is it fun? It's worth it.

I want to take the thurrreeeeeeeee DAWG pill

>>96052581
Wow you are definitely NOT the slop anon in question

>>96052641
What, are you playing for money? If all you care about is whatever's strongest, why not just proxy a cedh deck?

If you're just playing for fun, run whatever commanders you think are fun.
Orzhov vampires are way more interesting than Mardu goodslop vampires. Rakdos vampires are cool too.
You can build Light-Paws enchantress for $30 and it would still be able to compete at high bracket 3, low bracket 4 tables. But if you want to play something less busted, there are still tons of options. What enchantments do you want to play? Auras? Pillow fort? Auras enchanting your opponents' stuff? Wanna run a partner pair + every background printed in those colours because backgrounds will apply to both of your commanders? Go for it. I enjoy running Tana/Prava with all of the naya backgrounds in the 99 because I think Inspiring Leader is funny when all of my saprolings are coming in with +5/+9.

>>96052641
Faggot
>>96052679
This except Vona or Elenda

>>96052716
I've built him, its very fun. You need some token generators to make a bunch of 1/1s to make the most of him, similar to a Zada deck. Make the most of the cheap common enchantments that let you draw a card on ETB

>>96052384
I'm ready

>>96052393
take out the miserable cards and replace them with fun ones

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96052384
So i guess you want to run artifacts that like to be sacrificed and eat them for value. Maybe some lifegain payoffs? I don't think artifact sacrifice has enough support in those colors to make it your main strategy

>>96052716
This is one of the strongest cards for three dog.
His ability also doesn't target, so it dodges shroud, but does not dodge protection.

>>96052641
The only one of these that is actually true is Yuriko. Ninjas are just bad in EDH, Yuriko makes them good but also just goes completely overboard and makes them overpowered instead, which is unfortunate. I really like ninjas.

>>96052243
Aunt and Uncle got me the Galadriel precon, two of my cousins got Sam+Frodo and Eowyn. Haven’t played it yet.

How in the fuck are you supposed to get this guy to proc since pretty much everything but land are technically spells, aren't they? Who is just passing on turn 5?

>>96052834
neato benito

>>96052793
the miserable part is that you need to count your deck size for massive self mill, and you need to constantly look at your graveyard to count more shit.

>>96052844
You don't . Werewolves were so inccredibly badly designed that most are entirely unused. For them to be usable either the frontside alone has to be good for the cost (Duskwatch Recruiter arguably) or the flip effect is good enough to warrant not playing any spells (Huntmaster in modern for some time iirc). But otherwise you're basically better off playing practically anything else.

>>96052834
>Copies aren't cast, nor do they target
>this is one of the best cards for him
imagine being this bad

>>96052844
By playing this guy as your commander

>>96052871
get one of these to keep track

>>96052844
You have to force it. You might think I mean "oh it's tricky but you'll get there if you run some staxx".

No, you HAVE TO FORCE IT. If you can't flip him on your own the deck won't work at all.

>>96052872
>>96052877
Well, fair enough. Just happened to be looking at some old cards and werewolves are cool but damn I never ever could see this guy getting value without that commander

>>96052844
>just pass every single turn to get a 6/6 fight or spend the entire game with a vanilla 4/4
Day night is one of the worst mechanics wizards ever shat out, so of course the tribe whos whole gimmick is flipping between the 2 is complete dogshit. That's why wizards made tovolar to fix the shitty tribal gimmick and make werewolves playable.

>>96052637
You can choose to copy the cycle or the flicker. But they are separate abilities.

>>96052834
Wow, a new auto include for Zada

>>96052947
>new

>>96053005
i dont know all cards lol

>>96053016
The symbol should be the give away.
But then again no one pays attention to jumpstart anyway

I just realized this could be really funny in a Captain America commander deck

>>96053049
I think a few others realized that as well

>>96053057
Goes to show there's no such thing as an original idea, especially at 3am. Goodnight anon I'm going to bed

Excalibur III when

>Think repurposing bay must be really good in my artifact deck
>Slot it in and get it in one of my test hands
>Realise I have 14 artifacts with cmc 4 but barely anything at cmc 5
This might need a bit more fine-tuning

How does bestow work with Three Dog?
>Expected scenario: Three Dog removes the bestow card, creates copies of it, they pop off to form creature tokens instead.
>Weird scenario: Three Dog removes the bestow card, creates aura tokens of it that fall off when the enchanted creatures die.
>Nightmare scenario: Three Dog removes the bestow card, it becomes an enchantment aura creature with an illegal target and fails to be created

>>96053073
After Excalibur Jr.

>>96053049
>>96053057
why hasn't its oracle text been updated to "affinity for..." like they did with every other "this card costs X less to cast for every..." card recently? isn't it affinity in this case too?

>>96053194
Because it isn't affinity. It isn't reducing for each historic you have. It is doing it based on the CMC of those types.

>>96053212
oh right I misread

>>96053073
After The Excalibur,

what the fuck happened last thread

>>96053284
People get real weird after the image limit.

>>96053317
This phenomenon must be studied more. Someone post more AI goonslop so we can study the thread after image limit.

>>96053381
Can i post rats instead?

>>96053446
Don't you fucking dare.

>>96053492
crypt rats>pestilence

speaking of brackets and not goblin goon watermelon rubberband images every thread.
I was listening rachel weeks from the rules committee talking about how they are going to expand the list of strategies not allowed in bracket 2, one being discard. I've been asking this for so long and am happy they are finally considering limiting this gameplay pattern which is just basically mld in another form anyway. she said the gc list is a bit too big to remember while the show host said it's too small so take that as you will.
they also touched the subject of ramp being a menace in low brackets and she said bracket 3 and lower are for casual play and you are not expected to have the removal say against magus of the moon so land denial is not the answer
chaining extra turns COULD become a thing for bracket 3 since combos are allowed

>>96052641
>want to play enchantments
>only commanders worth using are sythis or the 5c shrine

>Eriette of the Charmed Apple
>Yenna Redtooth Regent
>Wildsear Scouring Maw
>Marina Vendrell
>Master of Keys
>Zur Eternal Schemer

>>96053527
I've said it before and I'll say it again
If answering lands is bracket 4 only than heavily lands based decks must necessarily be out of range of bracket 2.

I'm looking for a chink manufacturer for MTG sleeves with custom printing. I'm well fucking aware that Dragon shield does custom sleeves, but if i'm buying 20 boxes of 100, i dont plan to pay 25 bucks per unit..
Anyone have experience with this?
I've already been asking around on Alibaba and everyone is asking for 100 boxes minimum for anything custom printed.

Post Commanders you think are the wrong color identity for their abilities

>>96053554
>"It's fine because every color can ramp now."

>>96053492

>>96053632
Cringe

>>96053632
this is why I don't trust anyone who says they've got a rat deck

>>96053639
Consume my jorts

>>96053581
Shouldn't be black, and originally wasn't in the design file, and then they decided they wanted a cycle of three-color legends.

>>96053581
Every MoM face commander

>>96053581
The only reason this as black because the designer wanted it for his zombie tribal deck.

>>96053719
>>96053704
>>96053714
Black being the "do anything at a price to yourself" color kind of makes it a bit diluted for color justifications

>>96053719
It certainly is wrong but it is still definitely my favorite stax commander. Vehicle stax is pretty great. Don't know if any of the EoE stations will make it in though.

>>96053704
There's nothing inherently not black about this that isn't helped by it being white. If anything, he shouldn't be red.

>>96053859
Red is the color they gave "Sacrifice an enchantment" to as a cost for activated abilities in THB. It's a Goblin Welder for enchantments, which is why he's white as well.

thots as a commander?

>>96053719
I still hate the story behind this

>>96053910
Worse Reality Chip.

>>96053923
QRD?

Why is this guy worth literally nothing?
I feel like he's a pretty cool commander who does two nice things for relatively cheap and in good colors.
Am I missing something?

>>96054029
>Card is white as hell
>"Why is he black and not white?"
>We thought it would be cool if he synergized with cards that make tapped zombie tokens :^)
>"What?"

>>96054030
His effects are good, but not big and splashy enough for Timmy dragon players.
That's my guess anyway.

Partner commanders have the color identity of both partners right? Even if one's in the 99?

>>96054055
Forgot to mention that this was very much in the "White sucks and everything is Sultai goodstuff era"
Not that we still aren't in that era :^)

>>96054030
It's not anywhere near as pushed as Ur Dragon or Miirym. It also isn't a Dragon itself which triggers tribalfags. Even so it's still a relatively popular Dragon commander. If you're talking monetarily, it's a commander bait rare from a standard set with multiple art treatments. It's chaff.

>>96054030
He's great, but probably most dragon players pick a commander with more colors
I think he's incredibly underrated desu

>>96052641
Clavileno is a lot more fun than Edgar

>>96054030
>actually having to pay for your dragons instead of just getting them for free with your commander
Dragon fags biggest turnoff is to actually pay for their creatures. Hence why that is not more popular.

>>96054130
Hot take, Edgar isint actually good
These days when commanders can provide so much card advantage, Edgar does almost nothing compared to a commander like clavileno

The biggest advantage that Edgar still has is that he's the only option for mardu vamps

>>96052641
Vampires have so many commander options wtf

>>96053005
Its like 7 months old you fucking nigger yes its a new card.

>>96053117
You sacrifice the bestow aura and create token copies of the aura attached to everyone.

>>96053527
>she said the gc list is a bit too big to remember while the show host said it's too small so take that as you will.
rachel is having a woman moment
you know how many cards aren't legal in modern right now? a whole lot more than a GC list will ever be and yet no one worries that a modern deck might have an attunement in it
>bracket 3 is for casual play
i've always held the belief that bracket 3 should be a gateway, neither purely casual nor purely cedh; they're just putting themselves in pretzels regarding MLD when they can just put the MLD they hate into game changers and be done with it

>>96052641
And this one, like her removal and ability to threaten lethal damage

>>96053714
How so?

>>96054354
nice corset dress btw
>nice midriff you have there too
thanks, drana
you're from 2010, huh? yeah those were the days...

>>96054425
They were simpler times. Liliana my beloved, when Chandra was hot

>>96053005
STOP BULLYING ME

>>96053049
wait till you see excalibur wielded by a green trex

>>96054358
Convoke red
Artifact green
Knight blue

>>96052429
He's throwing scaling hot lobster fried rice in your face. It's also full of metal

>>96054517
You seem like a man with a poor grasp on the color pie

>>96054480
reminder that this outraged lib puritans

>>96054540
does hot lobster scale exponentially or logarithmically?

>>96054571
linearly

>>96054569
I’m enraged it’s not Nissa

>>96054055
what is that even supposed to mean
what exactly is the advantage of tapped zombie tokens

>>96054352
while different people on the rc have different opinions yeah I wanted to point out the ones I feel they are adressing poorly. she did say the system has glaring flaws so at least they are allegedly doing something and listening however slow it might be

>>96054219
>a permanent, unremovable buff for your deck is not actually strong

>>96054569
We need more pinup playmats of the planeswalker playmates

>>96054557
Really now?

Kenessos chads and other big fish bros eating well

>>96054622
Yes anon really. You also seem to have difficulty grasping how multicolored cards work. But jeskai is 50% of all convoke cards

>>96054648
Explain how putting red in a Selesnya mechanic that has been in those colors for longer than most posters here have been alive and has had one (1) card including red prior to that deck isn't a color break.

>>96054622
A color that produces a large number of small creature tokens is an ideal support color for a deck based on convoke. Sometimes, a multicolor combination is a strong choice not because every color involved features a mechanic, but because the strengths of those colors might support the theme in other ways.

>>96054723
Again you seem to just have a wildly poor understanding of how multicolored cards work.

>>96054594
>she did say the system has glaring flaws
the vision is there, they just have to commit to it; aka have a spine
no more wishy washy "oh mld is this definition", "oh a few tutors only in bracket 2", just say "ok these mld cards are GCs", "only 3 nonland tutors in bracket 2", "ok these cards/commanders are too fast for bracket 2 so we should make them GCs", etc... stop blaming players for abusing rules (you know, what mtg gameplay is based on), no more of this "bad actor" nonsense
mtg rules are complex enough as it is and there are tens of thousands of cards, remembering what cards are in the GC list (assuming you somehow don't have mobile data in 2025) wouldn't be a problem.

>>96054739
That's not an answer. Why do you think it's fine for mono red cards to have convoke?
>>96054736
By that metric the turle is fine with black because black makes tapped tokens.

>>96054648
more like 25% if you cut out mono-white cards. And almost all of them are from MOM.

> Most new players are in the 2-3 range.
incorrect
the ability to drive a deck no matter how bad or good immediately makes it a higher bracket or not

>>96054768
>you're too good at piloting a ramp deck, go to the cedh table!
you can't stop smurfing btw

>>96054648
Those 9 are mono red.
The whole point is that the colors were wrong for the commanders and it should have been Bant instead of Jeskai.

>>96054029
>Design is bant
>People complain about color pie break
>Reason given us "we thought it would be fun to use with the black zombies that come in tapped :)

>>96054751
You’re looking at it backwards. Red offers something that supports Convoke, and so including it in a legendary that intends to support Convoke gives you an additional way to support the mechanic. Archelos has an effect that black doesn’t do anything to support, but that provides marginal benefits for something unrelated that black does.

In the former case, the inclusion of an additional color allows for the core theme to be explored in additional ways by leveraging that color’s strengths. In the second case, a color is included for no other reason that the effect on the card can obviate some of that color’s weaknesses. The tertiary color in that case doesn’t do anything to support the theme.

>>96054780
brackets are just higher and lower levels of difficulty for deck builders
they wrote it: try to win without these cards
so I don't understand what you mean by pubstomp? which rule did I break?

>>96054865
i'm not sure why you're punishing players for being too good at playing a children's card game or why that's even relevant to the fact that thoracle combo is just a little bit too good vs a precon

>>96054855
That's a bend then, which was the whole reason why we're having this discussion. Red being in there is undeniably wrong even if it can work with it.

>>96054889
im not running thoracle because it would violate the rules
I just removed cards that were less synergistic and added cards there were more synergistic
I have 1 combo and its 5 cards, interactable, blockable, and can't happen before turn 5

>$10 collector boxes on woot
>Amazon prime day sales still suck ass

If lands are cloaked or manifested and I flicker them or use other effects to flip them I can make multiple land drops right?

>>96054929
ah cool then
regarding goldfishes that cause combos to come out earlier than "intended" in the lower brackets wotc should either suck that up (and make cards that they feel make such goldfishes more likely as GCs) or admit that they're so anal about it that they should make rules that players can't go infinite/near infinite/i win combo before turn X

>>96054956
what

>>96055034
Woot had $10 Foundations collector boxes yesterday

>>96052358
Wtf does cloaking do?

>>96054517
Well for Gimbal, green has more of the not standard artifacts like Food (before WoE) and from creatures like Svella, so including Green makes a degree of sense from a design standpoint. For Sibari they’re blue for flavor reasons, Zhalfir has been represented through Teferi, who is blue or blue-white whenever he shows up, so it would make sense that his people are of the same color identity he is, and the black is because he reanimates Knights.

>>96055049

>>96054993
the cards you are thinking of are just ramp

>>96054569
Now the sane woke libtards cheer that on as queer representation and strong women taking control of their sexuality.

>>96055086
i'm thinking more in the lines of entomb and buried alive actually
we already know when a tutor to the hand is too good; when does a tutor to the grave become too good?

>>96054582
I was gonna say. I thought Nissa and Chandra were the ones clam slamming

>>96055138
That only came after Lilliana raped Chandra and turned her gay. When Nissa was first born she was a racist elf who hated all non-elfs

>>96054569
>Lib
>Puritain
>Implying they're moral
Kek

Funny how quickly their viewpoints change

>local game store is hosting a charity commander tournament with the entry money going to the local dog shelter, decks must be animal themed
>everyone that enters gets a custom commander card of the store's resident dog
that's all well and good, but
>the art is AI and badly cropped into the card frame
>the card's wording is not formatted correctly at all, reads like someone who doesn't play magic wrote it
>the abilties are off-color

>>96055126
im sure wotc thought of that after the inital, and then first game changers list
so you don't have to worry about those cards being too powerful, because if they were, they would be game changers

This is the art before wotc had him censor it...

>>96055189
How can they claim to be liberal and sex tolerant while also hating visual depictions of boobs?

>>96055172
oh and:
>grand prize is ONE (1) play booster

>playing yuna precon
>add bahamut
>guy plays etali
>casts bahamut off the top

why does this piss me off so much, I had to bite my tongue to not look like a sperg.

>>96055221
>Rog/si player got wheeled out of his win cons
>He ragavans a fucking thoracle off the top of someone's deck

>>96055209
how can they claim to be for gay people while also calling for importing millions of homophobic moors
unironically read 1984, it's called doublethink

>>96055261
They love showing male full frontal nudity and male rape in Hollywood and HBO now, while always covering tits and vag and hiring intimacy coordinators to make sure the women don't get wrongly exposed on cam or in final edits.

>>96055180
>so you don't have to worry about those cards being too powerful, because if they were, they would be game changers
i'm sure no one will ever argue that entomb + abdel + animate dead is a fair turn 4 kill for bracket 3 because it's technically a 3 card combo, right? hahaha....

>>96054751
>MOM precon commanders
>mono red
Yes you really do not understand how multicolored works

This should be Bant

>he doesn't put his coomer proxies in the pregnancy deckbox

>>96054583
Anon, read the card again and ask yourself what it does that makes "tapped" zombies useful.

>>96055221
the best I have done is flip the eldrazi extra turn spell off the top with etali and then killed everyone by flipping him over to poison them out one by one

>>96055221
Theft decks are literally the tools of antichrist

Have 35 lands and 10 signets, sol ring and arcane signet.

Now to cut..

Also my cat was on my desk, sorry for the hair

>they're only doing two in each land cycle in these precons, despite being able to do the Izzet missing ones as well
>there are more unfinished land cycles
>there's a nonzero chance they'll start completing a different land cycle in the next precons rather than finishing these ones
Driving me up the fucking wall

>>96055510
everything okay?

>>96055172
Tear it up in front of the dog's owner

>>96055510
Putting this on the table next to my goatse box

>>96055637
they'll finish the tango cycle in Avatar main set

I busted out my EDH decks for the first time since 2012. Teneb was my favorite. I stopped playing right after they banned Primeval Titan, so I replaced him with Scapeshift. Here is my deck. I sold most of the fetch lands and duals for $$$, so I am going to try and rebuild it.

>>96055696

>>96055700

>>96055621
>35 lands
These are the type of players you meet in random pods at your LGS, jfc.

>>96055719

>>96055725

>>96055724
also
>timetwister
hahahaha

>>96055221
yu yevon steals your aeons in the ending anyway so why not etali? lol

>>96055621
do you announce playing proxies before starting?

>>96055787
I'm not poor

>>96055787
timetwister is the only proxy there, and I likely won't use it, but it is funny

>>96055724
You don't understand. If he cuts door to nothingness for a lorien revealed he's going to flood out every game.
>>96055736
This is like a swordbro list.

>>96055827
>This is like a swordbro list.
It's not 400 cards though

>>96055734
After going through my a bunch of my cards these are the ones left I didn't sell that are now worth over $100. Definitely using some of these to get some lands back. I can't believe Mindbreak Trap is worth so much foil. I bought it for $1 thinking it would be worth something someday, but not this much.

>>96055823
I bought the signets and had my jesters cap signed, so I have a reason to make a 5 color deck

>>96055827
I will be running bridge of death and I will be asking players three questions


Also, stop kvetching so much. I likely will cut more than half of this, it’s just a huge pile of cards I grabbed from my collection to add to the deck.

What's the minimum lands YOU run in a deck

>>96055874
i have 32 in one deck but i almost never miss a land drop due to it being self mill and having land recursion
Usually it's 38

>>96055874
38 because I’m a sheep.

>>96055469
>This fat ugly granny should really appeal to the playerbase!

>>96055874
37 and some Ixalan flips

>>96055874
my bracket 3 ramp and bracket 2 control both have 41 lands (1 mdfc)
my bracket 2 sephara has 38 (1 mdfc)

>>96055858
I sold my 4 LEDs from my legacy ichorid deck when they were $200 each. I was so stupid.

>>96055724
Newfag here. I thought 35-38 was the ideal land amount unless you were running something not quite the norm.

Also just so I don't take up more than one post: if you use a card to make two creatures fight, does that trigger effects for when you send them to combat, or is it treated as something different?

Also also, why does the worst version of Gideon have to have the coolest fucking artwork of the guy? This shit goes hard even if champion of justice seems like total ass compared to the other versions of him

>>96055896
As a certified G/Milf Enjoyer™, she does appeal to me

>>96055874
36 always

>>96055874
My mono color decks run about 34 but I can either wheel every turn, or do mono black things
In my amalia deck I have 35 lands because I can explore multiple times a turn and most of my stuff is low cmc
Every other deck is 36-37 depending on the general costs and not including mdfcs

>>96055917
Fight happens immediately as the spell or ability resolves, it's unrelated to combat

>>96055917
>if you use a card to make two creatures fight, does that trigger effects for when you send them to combat

Fight spells/abilities are not considered combat, and will not trigger anything that requires attacking or combat damage.

They will trigger damage triggers.

>>96055862
>5 color base green deck
>11 signets
why
>>96055874
No hard minimum, but I start at 43(counting landcyclers/mdfcs)and sometimes cut down to 40-41 if I want to fit things in.

>>96055939
>>96055940
So that's how green decks deal with problem creatures, they just simply kill them outside of combat triggers instead of cards to exile them or the like like white. Cool

Is this a commander for niggers? Looks fun and being a 2c Ux deck I could probably get away with some prison cards like Back to Basics

>>96055621
Anon, cut until you can fit 37 lands at least.

This deck is all over the place and reads like a Yuna or Rydia deck pretending to be a Terra deck just to goodstuff. Throw out the Reanimate and the Revival Orb, you have a bunch of other enchantment based revival that you don't have to fish back out when Terra throws it in the dumpster.

Then you can clean your fucking keyboard.

>>96055917
A lot of people choke their decks out with too little land and not enough card draw. Public enemy #1 for new player decks not working.

I always start decks at 37 lands and only start cutting them when I'm sure the deck can afford to run fatter.

>>96055973
I have never been angrier about a deck than I am about hers.
as the pilot of the deck.

>>96054029
>>96054055

Another glimpse of what could have been

>>96055874
36 in all of my decks including MDFCs. Except for the ixalan lands deck which plays 37 rn which might still be a bit low.

>>96056022

>>96056022
Also i took this from an article deriding sexualised art in magic and thought it must be from a radfem and it is actually from a radfem tranny, however that works

>>96055917
I played 37-38 lands for ~8 years, but nowadays I'm at Lands + MDFC/Landcycler = 40. With >>96055621 I'd for sure recommend 38 lands at least.

>>96056022
Reminder WotC denied us elves in fishnets. The artist LITERALLY had the fishnet version done in preliminaries

>>96056126

>>96055621
>35 lands
>and 11 lands i have to pay for while I miss land drops

>Mtg art direction
Lol
Lmao even

>>96056077
Tranny's hate attractive women because it reminds them what they won't be

>>96055874
Around 38. Depends on the mana curve, amount of fetches, ramp and rocks. Standard starts with 40. For my Azusa I use 50.

stop posting ai slop as "real images wotc didnt publish"

>>96056016
#blacklivesmatter

>>96055938
Why do edhg users larp about their decks?

>>96055916
LEDs?

>>96056163
The gala one is actually half real, there was a fishnets version ready to go
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aGdNKR

35 five lands is the objective baseline. If you need more go up a few, same for fewer. The reason is that you should be running ramp. 38-40 as a baseline standard is objectively retarded.

>>96056131
those aren't fishnets

>>96056167
I know it's a shocker but people do actually play

>>96056142
kaya's wrath is fine if only kaya's mug didn't remind people of their highschool lunch lady

>>96056163
>Everything is AI

The other decklist is up
https://moxfield.com/decks/K_R2ARDl_0W6Bs-mVi-vCA

>>96056226
Actually unironically. We live in a post-reality world and nobody realizes it yet.

>>96056200
i think you're retarded for even proposing 35 lands
look at me, i'm 0 mana
anyone asking for mana to get out of the command zone is shit

>>96056226
if you dont recognise gala greeters as ai you are a lost cause.
the other lilli artwork was also designed after the artist submitted the og artwork. wotc didnt reject jack shit. its just anon bending the facts to bait replies.

>>96056200
37 is my baseline and I adjust as needed from there. But I also tend towards a lower cmc average.

>>96056200
36 is my baseline, if you don't like it you can suck my ass

>>96056264
If your cmc is lower why do you limit your cardcount with inflated landcount? Are you stupid?

>>96055874
29 in Marwyn.
37 on average

>>96056200
>35 lands
>should be running ramp
>and lands I have to pay for while missing land drops
>>96056206
>I can wheel every turn in my mono color decks with low land counts
Im sure you do play. You just also larp about your decks

>>96056271
Enjoy top decking lands and cutting good cards I guess.

>>96056263
>the other lilli artwork was also designed after the artist submitted the og artwork.
Do you have a single bit of proof to back that up

The 37+ posters don't run mana rocks and it shows

>>96056292
In years of playing commander, I have never once had to throw back a hand for having too many lands.

Run 37 first, adjust afterwards.

here guys, I put my current desklist for you guys to kvetch at

also;

yes I am doing a proxy of MTGO dual lands because fuck you

https://archidekt.com/decks/14419040/terrable

might change replenish to open the vaults or brilliant restoration

>>96056301
>have low land count
>play game
>dont hit land drops
>Ah but I top decked a mana rock!
>pay for what a land would give you for free
Reminder ramp is a trap largely.

>>96056263
According to the artist himself he made the more detailed version first before it moved to its final and current design because it was too detail heavy for a small card. Don't know why you made that up honestly.
https://www.steveargyle.com/liliana-of-the-veil

>>96056330
>have high land count
>play game
>opponent plays good card
>go to remove it
>my hand is all lands
>opponent wins

>>96056329
This deck is all over the place and not very good.

>>96056301
I've been cutting rocks in favor of just ramp.

>>96056348
This doesn't happen though. But what does happen is you miss land drops and pay for a rock to compensate it.

>>96056353
This is valid.
>>96056312
I would rather have a hand of playable cards than a hand of all lands. Flood feels worse than screw and nobody wants to admit it. If you are a good deck builder you can always get out of a screw.

>>96056360
>gaining tempo is bad actually
Is this what the kids call a "take"

>>96056283
Clives been working for me the few times I've played him so far, between rocks and loot spells the only time I missed a land drop was when I had fire crystal on board but I still had enough mana for Clive to wheel, faithless looting and wheel of misfortune are also good

>all this bitching about a 1% increase in odds of not playing turn 4 on curve
Missing a land drop is fine in Commander. In fact, I'd say it's a secret boon at a lot of tables because people leave you alone for a bit.

>>96056376
Nowhere in that post is tempo gained.
>t4
>should have 4 lands
>instead have 3 lands and a rock
>played 0 impactful spells
Vs!
>t4
>should have 4 lands
>play your fourth land
>spend your mana on impactful spells
You're bad at magic, AND you don't understand tempo.

>>96056391
This man plays

>>96056349
>this deck is all over the place

what the fuck are you talking about?

1. I'm not including shit like deflecting swat, tutors, or cyc rift staples that go in every deck. it's not designed to be uber competitive
2. It's clearly an enchantment deck built around terra who mills shit into the graveyard and revolves around recurring enchantments
3. everything in the deck revolves around sagas, even bridge of death which can be used on terra's last chapter as a meme

>>96056280
Because having cards in hand means nothing if you lack the mana to play them. And because a solid chunk of my lands are flip cards that can be played as creatures or spells if needed. It's not like I'm running 37 basics.

>Yeah sure my opponent won, but at least I hit all my land drops on time!

>>96056396
>it's not designed to be uber competitive
and yet you're competitive enough to ask anons on /tg/ to help you get more wins roru rumao

>>96056391
Anon you don't understand game knights told me to run more lands and they are the law

>>96056407
Simply draw more cards

>>96056417
Doesn't James run like 34 lands every time?

>that one guy who hasn't ramped and hit all his land drops
>everyone else can use his board to see if they missed land drops
Respect to the forgotten heros...

>>96056416
???? I never asked for help, I just posted a picture lamenting having to cut 50+ cards as I put together a new deck.

Just run more draw cards

>>96056421
I did and they're all lands

How can I weaponize card draw?
I know of psychosis crawler.
I just think this little dude is neat.

>>96056438
> I put my current desklist for you guys to kvetch at
>people kvetch
>what the fuck man stop being so mean to me

>>96056347
he doesnt say that either. why is everybody lying?

>>96056369
>If you are a good deck builder you can always get out of a screw.
No you can't, what this means is that you have a very nice and lenient table that takes pity on you.

>>96056440
How? I'd have to cut lands...

>>96056456
yeah, and I'm kvetching at you now fucker

>>96056457
>In the end, this version didn’t really work for her card. For one, all those details don’t reduce down to an itty-bitty card window all that well.
Anon?

>>96056348
Why is your ass so obliterated by this

>>96056142
>murder
I'm triggered! How could WotC be so cruel? My family was victimized by urban youth.

Anyways... what is the best app for getting prices for cards and storing them in your collection? Is it paying for Shiny? I did the free trial and like how it will tell you what edition the card is and you can select if it's shiny or not. I hear you also can quickly add multiples and export your collection as .CSV. That seems worth the high price, but is there anything better?

>>96056461
It's called card draw, Mr. Nogames

>>96056452
Windfall loops.

>>96056473
Inflated land counts are one of the biggest noob traps

>>96056392
I've gotten to the point where the only rock I play is sol ring and even skip that in some green decks because my table plays so much single target hate.
Land is really the safest mana base and I'd rather play cards to search it or play extra than rocks.
Granted, free mana rocks are different but then my table isnt at that level yet.

3 land hand with draw power will survive most games

>>96056301
If I am playing any green, I'm not relying on mana rocks because they are going to get blown up by me or others. I only go full in on mana rocks when playing WRB or WR since I'm either going full aggro or land destruction.

>>96056391
Wisest man I this thread. I have intentionally held lands in my hand that I could have played so I'd draw less aggro and see the grudges form at the table because someone was hit for 3.

>>96056396
>erm they're sagas so they're synergistic!
No?

>>96056404
Because having lands in play means nothing if you lack the spells to play with them. And because a solid chunk of my lands are flip cards that can be played as creatures or spells if needed, i can lower my land count. It's not like I'm running 0 ramp spells.

>>96056407
>i would have won if only i hadn't missed so many land drops!

>>96056495
This. All you need are 3.

>>96056512
What land drops? I hit 4 lands I can cast every spell in my deck.

>>96056494
I don't have a single one in my Azorius deck because white ramp has gotten so good. It makes wrathing the board much less painful as well.

>>96056501
intentionally missing a land drop to discard Anger to hand size has won me more than a few games

>>96056528
I kept a 1 land hand in esper when I opened soul ring and archaeomancers map

Imagine not running Liquimetal Torque in green decks...

>>96056504
Ramp spells in hand mean nothing without the lands to play them btw

>>96056535
Metal twerk is a hate piece first and rock second.

>>96056476
most of the deckbuilding sites already have support for this and are free

>>96056497
This is valid, but is actually an argument FOR lower land counts. Every ramp spell you run gives you more access to lands, which means you don't need to run as many. This is very simple logic.

>>96056545
You shouldn't keep 1 land hands, kiddo

This entire debate seems to miss the incalculable power of THE MULLIGAN

I just draw what I need

>>96056526
You need 39 lands to have a statistically high likelihood of getting enough lands to hit all your land drops for the first 4 turns. Just so you know.

>>96056578
Based Yugi

I simply mana weave

>he plays ramp spells that cost more than 2cmc

>>96056577
But if I mulligan the game might take an extra 15 seconds anon

>>96056583
>this is the power of ameican "education"
Whoa...

>>96056599
>ameican

>arguing about how to play magic correctly

What do you guys think about the Edging for Eternity precons? I am kind of tempted by them, thinking about buying both to keep the Jund one for myself and stash the Jeskai deck as a gift for someone in the future.

>>96056528
Richard...

>>96056610
Yes anon secure adults discuss the things they enjoy and engage with because they aren't afraid of sharing their opinions and being perceived (potentially) negatively!

>>96056550
How does a deck-building site on my PC know what cards I have with my phone camera? I've started to use archidekt, which I like. I know I can export a spreadsheet format to that easily, but I need a way to quickly add my collection to it with phone picture.

>>96056551
True. But you also need to reliably get enough mana to cast them in the first few turns. I run Sol Ring always, but after that maybe just a few more mana rocks if it's green. The rest I like to run as ramp creatures/spells.

>>96056565
>just mulligan until you get the perfect hand bro
Kitchen table edh with timmy must be so fun.

>>96056617
Jund looks strong but also I don't really like the aesthetic of the set so I'm skipping it.

>>96056599
>ameican

>>96056648
Use Manabox to scan your cards and then export the list to archidekt
It's free and also has the CSV export option

>>96056657
>the nigga keeping one lands thinks his "opinion" matters
Kek

>>96056657
Aggressive mulliganing is one of the skills that separates a good player from a casual player

>>96056676
>have low land count
>mulligan cause to low lands
>mulligan cause to low lands (6)
>mulligan cause to low lands (5)
And so on til you're left with 3/4 cards in hand and 2 of them are lands.

>>96056696
Most players are hesitant to go past 6 as it is

>>96056696
Yeah and now 50% of my hand is lands and that's a good draw

>>96056696
>to

Wait so their just printing brand new typed duels in precons now?

>>96056744
They have to sell them somehow

>>96056664
I really do start to feel alone in my appreciation for the sword and planet setting.

>>96056696
Godo can win with a single one land hand. But I would hope this thread isn't full cum guzzling cEDHfags.

>>96056744
They're finishing a cycle you SHITTER NEWFAG

Ok this is pretty funny

I run 33 lands in my deck.

>>96056767
I known that, schizo, but "Glittering Massif" is a brand new card

>>96056779
Hell yea

>>96056783
No you didnt cause if you did your reaction would be different. It's okay tourist

>>96056779
>200iq has entered the chat

>>96056718
I bet you only play dothingdraw commander slop

>>96056758
maybe it would be more accurate to say I don't like the aesthetic in Magic the Gathering

>>96056758
Imagine if the art was like this

>>96056793
You are the newfag, otherwise you would at least be mildly amused they are printing brand new good lands in precons.

>>96056826
I wouldn't call the cycle cycle good.

>>96056818
But the art isn't like that.

>>96056793
Why do you post
Go outside

>>96056839
>go outside
>in the middle of a work day
Get a job anon.

>>96056764
I play cedh with my friends but every loss means you take a shot

>>96056838
How would you feel if you skipped breakfast this morning

>>96056848
My job allows me to go outside

>>96056836
They're good budget lands.

>>96056852
...of cum

>>96056855
Why are you asking me stupid questions. I had a banana for breakfast this morning. What are you even talking about

>darksteel reactor in a precon
I thought B2 babies hated Win the Game cards.

>>96056866
they're fine but I wouldn't run them over untyped duals that can come in untapped in a budget landbase

>>96056864
Anon you were caught out no need to try and make it believable

>>96056779
>>96056791
I need the white, black and blue versions of these, thank you

>>96056894
I mean esper btw

>>96056369
Anon I don't think you understand:

I have only maybe needed to throw back one hand EVER for too many lands; and after a good shuffle the mull was either fine or light on lands.

If you're consistently getting unplayable handfuls of lands I don't know how. It's very statistically unlikely and I haven't seen it bear out. If the hand is unplayable for the lands you have that's a balance issue, both in mana color and in what cards you're running.

The only time I've ever gotten truly fucked on mana is limited on fucking arena. It statistically doesn't happen and if it did, you should have been running more card draw, filtering or tutors.

>>96056908
Holy redditspacing. Did not read.

Legendary crash out itt

I like playing commander

>>96056878
You fell for it anon. Why did you even bother to answer...
And if you're wonder, that question was asking to see if you're capable of envisioning alternative/potential situations that may occur. You have failed.

>>96056930
Prove it. How many lands do you run?

>>96056958
0

>>96056938
What kind of questions would you ask if you were intelligent?

>>96056016
>We didn't think people would use Oko +1 on their opponent permanent
>We kept "you win the game" on Thassa's oracle because it gave the set a "je ne sais quoi"
>The card we spend the most time balancing in Ikoria was Dirge Bat
Sometime I wonder why those people still have their job.

>>96056938
Embarrassing you couldn't tell the guy you're replying to is being ironic

>look into graduating from Arena to paper
>"oh nice this card i like is only 20 cents!"
>3.55€ with shipping
Uhm... yikes?

>>96056997
>order $50 deck
>pay $45 in shipping
It’s pretty bad

>>96056983
Three brackets.

Ummm I like this card

Has there been a non villain white guy yet?

>>96056958
95

Is this a good mono blue 1v1 EDH commander? Seems very bitchy, so I like it.

>>96056918
Your contribution to the thread is less than zero. Run as many lands as you like retard.

>>96057044
Do you count Greeks as white?

>>96057044

>>96057098
I said non-villain

>>96057098
>non villain

>>96057106
he's one of the protagonists of the story anon.

>>96057045
pussy

>>96057098
He said White

>>96056992
This is 4chan. I don't assume anyone is being ironic here.

>>96056971
This is also a trick question.

>>96057110
>nihilismfag is a "protagonist"
Child

>>96057109
guess what.

hes not a villain.

>>96057117
FF was full of W protagonists

>>96057132
...his philosophy doesnt change that hes a protagonist in the story anon.


yall look really fucking stupid right now. You clamor a lot about a game you know nothing about.

>>96057145
I have no foot in this discussion but a protagonist can be a villain. Protagonist just means a leading character, or doesn't mean good or bad.

>>96057145
Imagine being this much of a slave

>>96057111
>not playing 100 lands
Coward

>>96056200
Ah yes, the ramp I'll run in Rakdos. That ramp

>>96055874
lowest i have is 31 and the highest i have is 38

>she still refuses to run rocks
>"why is my deck so slow???"

>>96057156
true anon, but in this case he still wasnt the villain.

Closest thing in the story to a true villain would be Syr Vondam, or just the religious factions as a whole.

>>96057158
anon

I run 25 rocks in my Ovika deck.

>>96056894
i didnt expect anything from the precons and still I'm disappointed. the commander exclusive cards have been rather lacking lately.

>>96057218
>he said, posting a card that’s nifty as fuck

>>96057218
what's lately, EOE and FF? Because the Tarkir Commander cards had a lot of juice.
>still two more sets to go this year

>>96056791

>>96056894
>>96056906
Oh i only noticed the esper thing after
Give me an idea for it, i still have the files here

>>96057126
>thinks he's showing us how autistic a different anon is
>accidentally reveals his own power level
kek

Now this is some good shit

>>96057293
I didn't mean esper, it was some other retarded fag who said that
i want each individual ones
>>96057271
kek, nice

I think I'll build my initial deck with 38 lands that way if it's too much with my fuck ton of ramp I get to cut a card and put in my foil Ultima just because it's cool looking

>>96057251
There is nothing neat about that card. Your bar is abysmally low

>>96057354
Oh okay
Black was this, some guy specified it had to be all swamps and a sol ring.
I didnt get it

Well, I want esper and I will say thank you and not cuss like a mean guy

do you get it

do you understand my r e f e r e n c e s

>>96057429
>15

>>96057376
There are shockingly few repeatable proliferate triggers that aren’t tied to combat, and this one has more potential for silliness than most of the existing ones (cast a noncreature spell, landfall, et cetera).

>>96057403
>Black was this, some guy specified it had to be all swamps and a sol ring.
chat, what did he mean by this?

>>96057429
I actually don’t, no. I know The Glove of Darth Vader was a whole thing, but I don’t remember what it was supposed to be capable of.

>>96057429
No, I really dont.
>>96057438
I misremembered, it was just mana rock

>>96057429
capeshit

>>96056866
>>96056889
Ever since the verge lands and surveil lands the entire 3 color base mana system got a little skewed towards running fetchable lands. Especially in anything with black because the tainted lands work similarly to the verge lands and both come in untapped.
The fetchlands can now grab you a surveil that can not only fix your mana but also make the Verge, check, and tainted lands live for the rest of the game. So I would argue that the cycle lands are a cheap alternative to the surveil lands but I would still work on swapping them out for the surveils eventually.
Granted, cycling is still a neat mechanic with some commanders.

>>96057429
oh hey look, another toy I get to play with

Simple, elegant design

>>96057487
A budget landbase won't have fetches in the first place so the typing is mostly irrelevant

>>96057579
Budget fetches exist though

>>96057561
>Simple, elegant design
>requires you to count how many times it has triggered
No

>>96057603
>counting to 2 is considered not simple for your average edhg user
Why tell on yourself

>>96057591
does ANYONE run slow fetches

>>96057627
They came in my precon

>>96057616
EDH players can't keep track of whether they played ONE land for turn

>>96057616
"Simple" and "easy" are not synonymous. Something is simple if it works the same way every time. Something that works the same way MOST of the time, but is sometimes different, is less simple. And it's sure as fuck less elegant.

>>96057639
You might actually be retarded. It is indeed simple and elegant design
>ERMMM BUT I HAVE ARBITRARY HIGHER STANDARDS IT COULD BE MORE OF BOTH!!!!!!
Your retardation does not change anything.

>>96057639
It does work the same way every time. Land 1 = ping, land 2 = draw.

>>96057627
>Swampcycling, Plaincycling, etc
>Knight of White Orchid, Claimhopper, etc
There are a lot of ways to fix your manabase without fetchlands and work with the check/tainted/verge strategy stated originally. Granted, they don't all put the land on field like fetchlands, they still help fix your mana base in 3 colors.

What are your'e favourite and least favourite archetypes to play against anons?

>>96057721
>favorite
Smashy monsters
>least favorite
Stax

>>96057721
Fav: stompy
Least: discard

>>96057721
>favorite
NA
>least favorite
Theft

>>96057721
>Fav
Combat tricks
>Least
Control

>>96057591
I play a minimum amount of fetchable lands in any green deck even if they come in tapped. Solely to be able to fetch them with three visits, farseek etc. I ain't gonna play three visits to then not fetch on a dual land or triome if the situation allows it. It also makes upgrading the deck easier cause you can just add actual fetch lands whenever you want.

>>96057721
>favorite
archetypes i win against
>least favorite
archetypes i lose against

>card literally called Grave Kill
Very creative wotc

>>96057766
Green in general is either the same 5 ramp spells or fetchlands because you're not actually leaning into the green side of the deck as much. At that point I would say either add the fetches on top of the budget ones or replace like you're saying.

>>96057721
>favourite
i dont think i really have any preference but its nice when everyone at the table is playing something different
>least
superfriends just because planeswalkers are lame and it always takes forever
i hard target group hug players as well

>>96057721
>Favourite
Combat? I like to play against most things
>Least
Decks that heavily rely on a single card or that need to be bullied out early. Always feels bad to do so but if you don't, they'll inevitably win. Also superfriends.

>>96056077
>that pfp
Anyway it's weird to me how they're against sexualization in the art and then Sami in the most recent storyline is a disaster gay that constantly admit wanting to fuck the other characters

>>96057784
>no it's different because it's Gravkill meaning you're killed by gravity!
hehe

>>96056779
I run 28 lands in my best deck, but hey it works most of the time, I've won a few times with less than 5 lands.

>>96057681
>It does work the same way every time. Land 1 = ping, land 2 = draw.
Anon...there's no "instead". It's actually
>Land 1 = Ping
>Land 2 = Ping, Draw
>Land 3 = Ping
>Land 4 = Ping
>...
>Land N = Ping

>>96057650
It is definitionally clunky. Simple and elegant would be
>Whenever A, B.
Instead, we have
>Whenever A, B. If A is also C, then D.
Slapping extra effects and additional checks onto something inherently makes it less simple and less elegant. I don't think you know what either word means and wouldn't be surprised if you think "simple and elegant" just means "has room for flavor text".

>>96057829
Radfems don't really care about non women being sexualised.
Idk its all performative

>>96057561
>turn 4 tap Hermit Druid mill my whole deck 35+ lands
>Cast Splendid Reclamation
>PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING

>>96057721
>like
Big guys, alt win cons and swarms
>dislike
Blue, discard and sacrifice decks

>>96056880
They sold an 'I win' edh precon through secret lair anon. They hate when YOU do it

>>96056983
>We kept "you win the game" on Thassa's oracle because it gave the set a "je ne sais quoi"
This guy should have been fired

>>96056880
Not all precons are bracket 2, that's always been the case

>>96057873
Again, dipshit, less simple than your arbitrary standards for pure simplicity does not prevent something from being simple. It's simply not the most simple ever. Get checked for autism please.

>>96056880
I dont think a single i win card is not allowed in B2 anon

Boros is the most powerful guild on Ravnica.

>>96057944
Thoracle is a game changer

>>96056779
a better edit than the land one but still has too many cards in hand

>>96057913
>we looked at different deck-manipulation procedures, but the ones that were reasier to read were harder to perform
ironically demonic consulation and tainted pact are themselves wordy cards but they are the easiest ways to exile your entire library

too bad they killed it.
it was fun while it lasted.
>no. necroptence is not a game changer and perfectly fine in my upgraded precon

>>96056229
I might actually grab this, seems like a fun deck concept. Plus the decklist actually looks above average for precons

>>96058037
Theres 10 cards missing from that list btw.
Full ones here
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/edge-of-eternities-commander-decklists

These bitches fuckable enough, goblin connoisseurs?

>>96057721
>Favorite
Black aristocrats
>Least favourite
Blue "pass go" decks

>>96057887
>does this up to 1 turn earlier with Sabotender
wow you did it

>>96058050
If they were not AI, yes.

>>96058050
What are you using to make these, the tokens i mean

>>96058046
>bringing back fuckin sunburst out of nowhere

>>96058070
Photoshop. There are dozens of custom card makers online that use wizards templates.

Maro: There will be 6 less commander decks in 2025. 24-6=18
aetherdrift (2), tarkir (5), secret lair (1), ff (4), edges (2), spodermen (0), avatar (4).

Fire, Earth, Water, Wind
Are you ready for 4 mono colored commander precons?

>>96058092
The SL probably didnt count, i think it will be 5 avatar ones

>>96058050
>AI
Gross, though I do appreciate you doing both the wirey lanky goblin take and the thick shortstack goblin take.

>>96058073
>sunburst
>sun
>sun is in space
>perfect fit in the space set!

>>96058050
god, AI slop is so fucking soulless

>>96058133
Checked and true. I hate using the word soul since it's been used almost as much as slop lately but there's no real soul behind it, it and AI writing both are an affront to passionate design

>>96057784
Missed telefrag opportunity

>>96057721
>fav
Aristocrats
>Least fav
Discard

what are the best nonbasics that have a nonmana activated ability on the field to hit with tsabo's web?
cus I think it doesn't deny lands that have abilities you can only activate from hand like cycling or channel lands
all I can think of are maze of ith and the other one like it, fetches that come in tapped and academy ruin/hall of heliod
like, there are lots of them for sure but I'm trying to come up with the best ones

>>96056769
This is the most obvious design space for white and the crime mechanic, its baffling that there were no cards like this in thunder junction

>>96058114
>x
>x in on y
>y is in space
>x is a perfect fit for a space set!

>>96058243
There's so much crime going on it would be too powerful if everything white had it especially in TJ where it was a main mechanic.

>>96057098
>as designers, we came to realize that ward was actually a very powerful keyword
>so we made sure that we would only use it to force a two-for-one

>>96058050
The left one is good
What's the deal with the right's face?

>>96058133
>He says posting an AI image

>>96058240

>>96058050
They're ai, so they're ugly as fuck
Fuck off, slopper

>>96058255
yes that's why you have everything in this set - slivers, eldrazi, phyrexians, syr knights...

>>96058290
Hair is kinda fucked over her face, need to clean it up a bit more.

Commanders for this feel?

>>96058050
Based goblin enjoyer
Based pasties enjoyer
Based corset enjoyer
Based short stack enjoyer
Based slim goblin enjoyer
Based AI enjoyer

>>96056769
This card's hilarious and actually pretty solid.

>>96058324
What is this

>>96058327
the only good goblin is a human/goblin hybrid preggo goblin.

>>96058050
Are you going to actually post the goblins in question instead of green elves?

>>96058321
Sorry I mean more that I find her facial expression to be really bad

>>96058335
its a short story about a guy beating up a lot of people. the cultists then summon baphomet to beat up the guy. they guy ends up beating the shit out of baphomet. baphomet aka the devils soul leaves its body and enters the guy who becomes the new baphomet. its distilled brainrot.

>>96058351
These are goblins

>>96058354
Oh, she's just supposed to be blushing

>>96058365
Absolutely not, they're green elves.

>>96058335
an old Youtube video with a silly song that has recently become a Tiktok meme

>>96058324
shadowborn apostle

>>96058381
That's what goblins are anon

>>96058366
Sorry maybe I'm just autistic but her smile looked kind of off to me.

You should absolutely make some more though

>>96058425
I'll circle back and make some more goblins after I get other token types generated

>>96057721
>favorite
combat tricks
>least favorite
Simic goodstuff pile

>>96058452
If I could request... I need a good balloon token for jolly balloon Man

>>96058050
Anon please. If you're going to slop, at least use an artist mix instead of literally the sloppiest of models.

>>96058294
you fucking wish, you dirty pajeet nigger

Hating AI art is probably the biggest midwit indicator alive.
>muh soul
Yeah im sure Twitter artist #284828 and token maker #89591 are pouring their heart and souls into every hastily done commission or fan art. Could train a bot off an artist and they'd still go nuhuh like it aint the exact same.

>>96058489
>hating just AI art
midwit
>hating all generative AI
bigwit
>liking AI art
dimwit
>defending generative AI
Indian

>>96058489
fuck off you dirty fucking pajeet
even scribbles by a beginner artist mogs the fuck outta all AI slop

>>96058489
It's not about soul it's about ai slop simply looking BAD.

>>96058506
Based on what anon? What immutable qualities does a human hand add to the art?
>>96058501
>non generative okay
As i said, hating AI art is a massive midwit indicator.

>>96058472
Do you want a clown girl, a balloon girl, just a balloon?

>>96058518
good morning saar

>>96058529
A goblin blown up like a ballloon

>>96058529
All three so i can see?

>>96058489
My problem is quite simply that AI art is far too limited. Try to get anything that hasn't been done to death and it'll struggle to even follow the basics of your prompt. It is purely derivative, with no capacity for interpretation or imagination. Fuck, "a dragon with qualities of a star-nosed mole" should be pretty fucking simple to piece together, but Stable Diffusion didn't even give me the barest hint of an Eimer's organ.

>>96058489
AI fags always get so fucking mad and pull this out when they get told their shit stinks, like clockwork.

>>96058514
But that is simply not the case anon.
>>96058506
You're also at odds with your brethren

>>96058534
The implication here is you just got bootyblasted by a jeet so hard you couldnt even defend your position. Epic win!
>>96058559
This is simply not true.

>>96058568
I guarantee you I hate AI more than you ever could. I simply hate ALL AI and dont relegate my hate to simply "generative" AI for arbitrary (retarded) reasons, and im an adult so im not a screeching fag whenever I see something I dont like. Nice try though! Now, what immutable qualities does a human hand imbue the art with?

Shut the fuck up about AI ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>96058602
AI is being very good saar, do not to be insulting the AI art bloody bastard benchod

Picked up some of my upcoming commanders. Decided to kill two birds with one stone and make Mono-White knights so I have a mono deck and get to do Knight tribal

>>96058602
>This is simply not true
>despite the inclusion of an image demonstrating it to be so
Tell me, anon, have you ever attempted to use AI to generate anything beyond "titty, but green"? Because it starts stumbling as soon as you ask it for anything beyond the most generic, lowest common denominator slop. As in my "dragon with qualities of a star-nosed mole" example, it flails around if you get even slightly off the beaten path because it is literally designed to regress to the mean. Any attempt at creativity requires you to fight against what it is intended to do.

>>96055696
Loved your deck. This general needs more IRL deck pics, so please post more

>>96058602
Do you make this lie?

>>96058632
>a mono deck
>UBslopper
>dogfucker
it does not stop with this fag

What is the Ultramarines of Commander? The first deck that everyone builds, that every new player gravitates towards and that everyone recognizes as the intro Timmy deck archetype?

>I don't get it, why doesn't everyone love my "goblin, big breasts" prompt that I made using the model that was the first one to show up on civitai?
I know it's against the nature of sloppers to put in a modicum of effort, but God damn man. At least try using some artist tags instead of going for the most obvious fake shit ever. Fucking /trash/ does this shit better than this SEAcore garbage.

>>96058656
>mono-color bad
Everything else aside this is incredibly cringe

>>96058684
The Ur-Dragon deck. Every new player looks at that and says I want the biggest dragon and then makes a deck full of dragons. It's called elder DRAGON highlander for a reason. It probably tops all the EDH deck recommendations too.

>>96058636
Completely unrelated to magic but yes. This was made mixing various styles to make something unique. Didn't read anything else cause youre wrong and dumb

>>96058684
dragons

>>96058684
I would have said urdragon but that fucker is like 70 dollars.

>>96058684
Their favorite tribe for most players. Otherwise combo degeneracy

>>96058710
>This was made mixing various styles to make something unique.
So, what, you asked for "Dark Souls" and "Bloodborne" and got out something totally original?

>>96058710
>attempts to rebut the argument that AI only produces derivative and generic outputs
>by posting perhaps the world's most derivative and generic "dark fantasy archer" image

>>96058710
>CHIIOGR
>CMATTAN
>RESMO
>CHIINRAUN
>EECA
>CHAII
>STAKNTUNE
Why is AI so ass with spelling words that were obviously fed directly to it? This is the one thing I'd think would be no problem for it

>>96058736
Its okay to be wrong anon :)

>>96058750
You are welcome to post some examples of pieces similar to these ones anon but they are very unique in their style.

>>96058684
depending on how they got into the game, whatever draft archetype they have the most cards for or whatever precon looks neat at the time.

>>96058755
Presumably that's why you're flinging yourself headfirst into doing so.

>>96058755
>Uses the wing texture on the helmet
lmao

>>96058770
Where are your examples of pieces this is derivative of anon?

>>96058710
That is literally Strider.

>>96058762
no, this is just two styles laid on top of one another. There is no blending between the Metal Gear Solid-style "HUD" and the generic fantasy designs.

>>96058644
Thank you. I'll post some of my other old EHD decks I took pictures of too in the next thread.
>here they all are
I've only got 88 cards in the deck now. I've removed all the ones I've sold, obvioulsy, and added some ones I had that I think belong. Still not familiar with new cards so I will need to replace a bunch of those duals and fethces with something cheaper and better to start with.

>>96058755
>Tyrael
>but with more generic wings
>and a green robe I guess
Please tell me you aren't considering this the height of innovation

>>96058810
Oh are you the guy who has loads and loads of unlands?

Stop bullying the poor guy. It's clear he doesn't actually have an imagination of any kind, so early 2000s dark fantasy but with a video game HUD seems to him to be the height of creativity.

>>96058810
>Immediately spotted that primeval titan
I got bad news anon

>>96058791
Looks nothing alike
>>96058792
This is gunna blow your mind but new artstyles are usually just other art styles with a big enough twist to make it different.
>>96058811
Looks nothing like tyrel

I have yet to see a single piece or art that looks remotely similar to the AI ones. Try harder guys.
>>96058819
No one is claiming its the height of creativity ^.^ simply that it is something unique as the claim was AI cannot make unique things.

>>96058810
Seems like the first obvious plug in for updating this deck.

>>96058816
Unhinged lands? Oh yeah tons. I had one of each of the foil ones too. Sold them each for close to $100 12 years ago. I still have dozens of the regular ones. I got a bunch of the Unglued ones too.

>>96058826
I know! I quit playing EDH right after they banned it. I had three decks that relied on him. Teneb, Azusa and Saffi. I'm working on rebuilding Teneb because it relied on him the least, and it was my first EDH deck built back in 2010. Still my favorite color combo, and I believe back then him and Doran were the only commanders available in that combo.

>Try harder bloody benchods
AI subhumans are so funny

>>96058843
Maybe. I don't really rely on getting stuff into the graveyard other than putting them down first, then having them die, board wipe em or sac them for some effect. I also really hate land coming in tapped and slowing me down. It's why I think the first land I'll cut is Stirring Wildwood. I just don't see it doing much other than an early turn where a planeswalker is up and I have nothing to hit it with. I found out about the Indathia Triome so I am definitely picking one up if my LGS has one. If not I'm buying online.

>>96058721
so are ultramarines

>>96058762
this is a neat format

>>96058866
The surveil lands are just nice options for your fetches to fix your draws a bit if you don't immediately need the extra mana. Seeing as you've got quite a few of them I'd probably snag at least one.

>>96058866
think about surveil less as getting stuff into the graveyard and more about getting stuff you don't want to draw out of the way (on a fetchable land, unlike the scry lands)

>>96052316
>Oops I Didn't Realize This Went Infinite Together,
Pretty much exactly this. I like Ghave and it feels like every time I sit down with the deck I find something that goes infinite in a way I didn't expect before. It's fun for how free form it can feel but it's also one of the decks I don't like to bring out unless the table seems ready for it.

>>96058960
how do I build B2/3 jaheira imo having the same problem

Jenova vs Ravenous Ride?
>Jenova: Easier to draw, nothing to do with all those cards
>Ravenous Ride: Much harder to proc, but you get to shit mana onto the battlefield.

>>96058976
An easy way to downtune your deck is just take out about half the ramp, removal, and draw power and just slot in more "synergy" cards with your commander. Basically design your deck the same way a newer player would and leave your deck way more vulnerable and less consistent.

>>96058996
No, the problem I'm having is all the turn 2-3 infinites

oh yeah, it's time

>>96059023
At one time I had a copy or two of every sliver ever printed. I haven't kept up on that in years though. We're any of the weird bipedal person slivers and good or were they all just equivalents to existing ones without the symmetrical Lord ability?

>>96059023
Buddy what the fuck

>>96058810
>>96058826
primeval titan is fine as a GC, it's not 2010 anymore
anyone still afraid of primetime in edh while x4 titans are running around in modern need to chill lol

>>96059064
>defining card of one of the strongest decks in modern, because of how good it is
>that means it's fine in EDH
I would in fact argue that is proof of the opposite

>>96059040
off the top of my head, diffusion sliver is the only one that gives ward and sliver hivemind is the only one that gives indestructible

>>96059089
Why? Edh is an even higher powered format than modern

>>96059089
not only is primetime not even top tier in modern (boros energy is), island is everywhere in vintage therefore we should ban it in edh uh huh fr lol

>https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/edge-of-eternities-design-allusions-vs-tropes

It's not about making a believable world, it's about making sure all of our references aren't too blatant.

No, Tarmogoyf in space is not the pinnacle of world design these people think it is.

Imagine saying cards shouldn't be unbanned in commander because of how they work in modern. Most retarded post in this thread lmao

>>96059114
Amulet Titan only isn't top-tier because it's hard to play

>>96059120
hat set schizo, your response?

>>96057977
>too many cards in hand
Let me show you the secret krenko tech

>>96059129
Imagine saying a card should be unbanned in EDH because it's fine in Modern.

>>96059142
Krenko doesn't need card draw, he just resolves and wins on the spot

>>96059011
I bought the millenium calendar so my gogo deck has a wincon. the intended route was to use it to win with commander teferi, gogo, and some mana rocks, but I keep finding stuff
>wins on turn 3 (or t2 with sol ring) with basalt monolith
>wins on turn 3 with aphetto alchemist
>wins on turn 3 with omen hawker and pemmin's aura/freed from the real while also making infinite mana
>wins with any two 'untap-another's
I'm going to go back to darksteel reactor and proliferate/extra upkeeps at this rate.

>package of ~40 cards has arrived
Some of these are indeed for a deck but I just like buying neat cards. Nothing of note besides the funky Pegasus tokens and the cool egg cycle

>>96059132
if titan was so good it would make the whole deck easier to play is the point, like how boros energy used to just play itself with amped raptor

>>96059064
https://blog.cardkingdom.com/you-dont-want-primeval-titan-unbanned-in-commander/
Blogpost from one of the commander panel or whatever it is now about primetime

>>96055221
This lil nigga makes people in my group seethe so fucking hard.

I stole the lands and most of the spells included are fuckin penny cards

When my friends bust out the decks with fifty dollar cards being tutored by other fifty dollar cards, I just boomerang shit or swerve it. It's hilarious. I've got Rhystic Study, Smothering Tithe, everything you could want, and my rowdy gang of outlaws just stole it from you and you gave us the treasure to pay for it. Lol

>>96059198
>if you make primetime a GC it's so broken with glacial chasm... accelerated by sol ring!
holy hell roru rumao
what's the 3rd GC then? worldly tutor? field of the dead? and how is that any different from what you can do now with ulvenwald hydra?
>you have the chance to primetime again after a turn cycle!
>no the pod will not make you the archenemy i promise!
just like consecrated sphinx right? and that one's a GC no problem lmao

>>96052243
My friend gets me a few cards he thinks will go well in my decks every year.
I’m getting him something this year since he got me a good job at his workplace.

>>96059180
It is so good, Amulet Titan is literally a T1-T0 deck through a bunch of metas, without getting powercrept, and generally avoids bans precisely because it's difficult to pilot. And in a less competitive environment like EDH, Primetime is unquestionably a dominant force.

>>96059234
I don't think you quite grasp just how degenerate a single Primetime resolution can be.

>>96059212
at my old shop i nearly made an ur dragon player cry after milling 3 cards with the crab then stealing his cultivate

>>96059242
>Amulet Titan is literally a T1-T0 deck through a bunch of metas
i'm sure cards like urza's saga and spelunking had absolutely nothing to do it, yeah why not have the deck have x8 amulet of vigors and a tutor in a land, what could possibly go wrong there?
>And in a less competitive environment like EDH, Primetime is unquestionably a dominant force.
ramp is the strongest archetype in edh and will remain so regardless of whether primetime is unbanned or not, and i'll argue that by unbanning primetime wotc will get its head out of its ass and actually allow mld, at least in the form of picrel so that only ramp gets affected lol

>>96059277
>keep citing reasons why Prime Time has only gotten better since the ban for why it should be unbanned

>>96059258
anyone even implying that primetime is stronger than GC rhystic study needs a grasp on reality

>>96059258
The people who want prime time unbanned don't understand it

>>96059277
>green is already the best color
>let's make it EVEN STRONGER
>so they lift a soft-ban an archetype I want to play in lower brackets
actual retard logic

>>96059153
gogogo is complete and utter shit though
>teehee we printed ramp in monoblue

>>96059289
urza's saga is already a GC, remember you only have 3 GCs. so that's primetime, saga... and chasm? and how is that fundamentally any different from what you can do now in bracket 3 with hour of promise and titania's command?
>>96059311
how about you reread how gavin talked about regarding primetime and og emrakul in the recent b&r, compare that to how he talked about griselbrand, then ask yourself why planetary annihilation just so happens to deal 6 damage, then come back to me?
you guys can't take a hint of what's coming it's hilarious

>>96059234
>how is this card that does twice as much as this other card every turn cycle any different, your opponents always exile it forever immediately 100% of the time
>and i'm not going to factor in an opponent going down a removal spell as upside because I'm just not
>>96059295
Rhystic being banned would improve the format.
The argument for banning Prime Time(and Sylvan Prim at the time) and not rhystic though is that people know they're being obnoxious tryhard kikes if they play rhystic, but will innocently throw prime time into every green deck. That's changed a little bit though, you see rhystic way more these days than you ever did a decade ago.

>>96059333
>oh wow the green deck sure is ramping hard!
>anyways, i comboed out with vivi/teshar/insert combo commander here, GGs i guess
lol
>Rhystic being banned would improve the format.
but it's not, and as long as it's a GC no one has any standing as to why primetime is still banned while rhystic is free, simple as

>>96059260
Based. Considering running Tasha but stealing makes people see red.

>>96059353
>oh wow primetime just dropped the Marit Lage combo on turn 4
>oh hey, Cabal Coffers and Urborg, who could've seen that coming
>Glacial Chasm and Field of the Dead huh? Guess we're just gonna be here for the next three hours
>what fun we are having

unban primetime and sundering titan

>>96059301
Or they understand it just fine and are trying to gaslight people into thinking it's not a big deal

>>96059376
>as if marit lage, coffers+urborg, chasm, and field can stop a combo
kek i see too many people love their greed piles of do nothing winmore enchantments, and yep, primetime will beat that alright
maybe don't bring your pile to bracket 3 is the point lol

>>96059023
I love slivers.
>>96059064
>>96059089
I knew it was absolutely broken in EDH right away. I wish they would either retcon the card to be one land instead of two. Maybe then it wouldn't be so broken. Just print a new version of it like that.

>>96059393
>sundering titan
First time seeing this dude. This spell would be funny as hell if you're running zero basics

How do I go from win more to actually building cohesive decks?
I feel like I just run good stuff instead of synergistic things.

>>96059413
I build so many blink decks and this never makes the cut

>>96059328
OK thanks.

>>96059411
i never said primetime wasn't strong
what i'm saying that as long as consecrated sphinx and rhystic are GCs there's no logical reason for primetime to be banned and if you can read the lines in the latest b&r even gavin is easing you into accepting that reality lol

>>96059426
shit in the sense of "THIS IS BULLSHIT" not that he's bad

>>96059424
tbf it's really only good at like.. fucking turn 10+ unless you decide to generate infinite mana to pull off shenanigans

>>96059429
>consecrated sphinx
Oh shit. I have this card. I didn't know he was a GC. Same with Rhysitic study! I did have them in my bant control deck.

>>96059429
Could see it considering they just reprinted him.

>>96059441
>Oh shit. I have this card. I didn't know he was a GC. Same with Rhysitic study!
hehe, picrel
>>96059445
the signs are there :)

tbqh I think this one is coming off the list, not prime time.

>>96059440
I prefer blinking non-creatures anyway.

>>96059458
gavin talked about primetime, primordial, and og emrakul in the same tone, read the lines people

>>96059467
he also talked about sylvan primordial in the same way speedreader.

>>96059473
kek cry more

>>96059485
I almost bought sylvan primordial the other day and wondered why no one played it

>>96059153
Got a list?

>>96059485
Gavin also said the #1 most likely unban is Jew Lotus because he's a fucking moron living in a universe there are no good commanders above 3 mana.

>>96058976
>jaheira
You're going infinite that easily with her? That's surprising. Didn't think she'd enable that so easily.

>2025
>still no Bant Populate commander

as a thought experiment, how much mana would a "Search your library for up to two land cards and put them onto the battlefield" effect cost, in your mind?

>>96059507
>Gavin also said the #1 most likely unban is Jew Lotus
ofc jew lotus is the most likely unban (as GC)
gotta make future 6 mana do nothing commanders sellable in bracket 3 you know haha

if academy is banned, cradle should be as well. either free academy or ban cradle.

>I will be transparent and say that I believe if any of these are ever to return, the most likely one is Jeweled Lotus due to its one-shot nature, iconic feel, and ability to help support high-mana value commanders.

>>96058989
Gitrog seems more fun. Encourages charging in and saddling up for big next turns which sounds more enjoyable to pilot to to me. Whenever I'd get Gitrog on board in my other decks he'd usually make some impact.

>>96059519
>6 mana do nothing
More like 6 mana can't be countered ward - discard your hand at the beginning of each upkeep draw 7 cards.

>>96059523
it's a lot easier for Academy to go apeshit than Cradle, and Gaea is a lot more vulnerable to an incredibly common type of removal

>>96057561
The extra wincon my Flubs MLD deck was looking for. Might switch back to Windgrace since we got Iridescent Vinelasher there too.

unban him you cowards

Poor frost titan never stood a chance with consecrated printed alongside him. Wurmcoil engine all but forgotten

>>96059523
But anon, it's much easier to get artifacts in blue than it is creatures in green!
Green has never been known for going wide

>>96059530
>iconic feel
he really is just a little jew rat fuck

>>96059530
They'll just print a new chase-mythic.
For the thousandth time I will suggest printing JewLo with a limitation that it can only be used to cast commanders with mana value 5 or more

>>96059541
all the more reason to make jew lotus GC!
>>96059530

>>96059530
>I will be transparent and say that I believe if any of these are ever to return, the most likely one is Jeweled Lotus due to its ability to be monetized

>>96059494
I don't imagine primordial would see much play today.
It was printed right before the legend rule change(2 opposing legendaries killed each other), so every single blue deck had Metamorph, Phantasmal Image, and sometimes Rite of Replication. Deadeye Navigator was also a boogeyman at the time(despite looking completely unplayable to someone who started playing post-brawl).
Basically every casual game ended with a simic player blowing up everyone else's lands.

>>96059586
This is really cute, who's the artist on this one?

>>96059560
Please, just give me a version of Dockside that creates a treasure for each OPPONENT that controls an artifact or an enchantment. Definitionally won't go higher than 3, and that should be safe, right?

>>96059602
Nevermind, found it. Kanekuo