Jellyfish Advisor Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96059233

>TQ
Favorite card spoiled from EOE so far?

>TQ
I hate them all.

>>96068238 (OP)
>TQ

>>96068238 (OP)
>Favorite card spoiled from EOE so far?
Unironically the entire set sucks ass.
Every damn card.

this game is SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>96068238 (OP)
>TQ
Gravkill

>>96068276
but le heckin' shocklands?

>>96068280
this game is SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Woah dude you can't just enter a place and spit facts like that.

>>96068276
Ouroboroid {2}{G}{G}
Creature — Plant Wurm
At the beginning of combat on your turn, put X +1/+1 counters on each creature you control, where X is this creature’s power.
1/3

>>96068349
>Planet-sized creature
>1/3
Good job, Wizards.

>>96068382
>3 janitors from Capenna wiped out 6 planets while planning a heist

>>96068382
It doesn't start off planet-sized.

What's your favourite (and playable) Edge of Eternities card?

>>96068238 (OP)
The only new card I want to play is goyf.

>>96068382
It's obviously a plant that grows

>>96068388
>>3 janitors
>>wiped out 6 planets
>they did it for free

>galaxy size dragon with a blackhole for a face
>stat line of a baloth
>etb ability is only strong enough to shoot down a squirrel

I'm so fucking tired bros...... when can we go back......

>>96068464
Tezzeret, Baloth, White wrath and Culler are the only playable cards of this shit of a set. I'm so glad is Aetherdrift 2.0 because i will not need to spend shit on it.

>>96068488
this is just emrakul vs 15 squirrels with new cards
stat lines have never made sense when looked at closely, don't worry about it

>>96068540
Statlines have always meant something. Giants being around 4/4 meant something. Titans being 6/6 meant something.
It's when they start making hat sets and decided to move from a city to a house to a galaxy is where it felt apart.

>>96068238 (OP)
>TQ
I've been waiting for them to print this card for years now, it's too bad it looks like it's from a shitty sci-fi movie. Even still, this set was actually a lot better than I was expecting, ignoring my insect tribal obsession. It's kinda funny how UB sets have forced them to actually put in significant effort into designing these in-universe sets, since making funny Mario Kart references will feel redundant once they end up doing an actual kart-racing crossover.

>>96068560
A regular mouse is as strong as a lion. You just kinda have to accept it.

>>96068464
this dude is gonna be so annoying in standard lol

>>96068561
They even mentioned that they're likely to cut back on in-universe references to more popular media because of UB's prevalence. Niche references are likely of course.

There's a difference between "the smallest unit in the game is 1, which includes a variety of creatures" to "a galaxy is smaller than a city". Even if the numbers don't make sense going from 1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and so on, the relative sizes should be ordered.
If Timmy wants to play a big ass creature and his big ass creature is actually really tiny ackstually because the developers constantly mismatch the scale of the game, how does he feel?

>>96068560
Right, that's why two grizzly bears can kill an angel but can't kill a bodyguard.

>>96068601
>can kill woman
>can't kill man
what are problem?

>>96068576
should be b with a warp cost of b

>>96068600
>There's a difference between "the smallest unit in the game is 1, which includes a variety of creatures" to "a galaxy is smaller than a city". Even if the numbers don't make sense going from 1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and so on, the relative sizes should be ordered.
The responsible, good-design thing would be to simply put a reasonable cap on the scale of things within the game. The top of that cap is Emrakul.
If it's supposed to be bigger than Emrakul, it doesn't exist. Case closed.

But if you HAVE to be a flaming retard and make le EPIC space monsters!!! Then yes, you should at least have the good sense to scale them appropriately stat-wise. Mechanics ought to mirror lore, and that includes the size of bodies.

But WotC is utterly committed to executing the worst ideas possible, as poorly as possible. So, we get EoE.

They were smoking something strong back in the old days

>>96068238 (OP)
Mmmm.... enon

What did Mark mean by this?

>>96068691
Just confirming gender tokens as a gameplay mechanic

>>96068691
>if you want to
That's true and normal... so shouldn't he be crucified for this?
I thought the Orthodoxy demanded that ALL THINGS be Political at ALL TIMES. The suggestion that one could validly choose nonpolitical art is tantamount to trans genocide!

>>96068496
Any time you want to sign up for PREMODERN

>>96068744
I'm not brazilian though

>>96068744
TRVTH NVKE

>>96068600
CAST IN THE NAME OF GOD
YE NOT GUILTY

>>96068748
But you are brown

>>96068770
sorry i don't play pre modern either

>>96068748
it is easy to learn portuguese my friend! english speakers will know many words already but are not aware

>>96068783
We know, thirdiebrown.

>>96068731
There's art that's intended to be political, and then there's art that isn't intended as such, and the latter may be the vast majority but a creator's worldview will inevitably influence their art. Even the OG bing bing wahoo can be read as having the political beliefs that "it's okay to use violence to protect the ones you love" and "not all royalty are bad".

>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70894&f=PREM
130 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70154&f=PREM
98 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70075&f=PREM
128 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69859&f=PREM
177 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69584&f=PREM
78 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69543&f=PREM
123 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68297&f=PREM
279 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68163&f=PREM
92 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68886&f=PREM
84 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM
66 players

Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>96068748
What does being Brazilian have to do with it?

>>96068691
Where is the lie? He's 100% correct in that answer.

>>96068784
>>96068809
you need to know portuguese to get into pre modern

>>96068576
This card feels like a trap. Its too mana-intensive to keep reusing it. Maybe some aristocrats will want it as a repeatable sac outlet, but black aggro won't.

turn 1 cecil
turn 2 saboteur
turn 3 preacher
now that's a curve

>>96068814
No you don't.

>>96068802
Yes, I know. But "everything is political", in street-level political discourse is used as code for "everywhere is an appropriate place for blatant propaganda so shutup and stop resisting!".
You know this, though. You're just running defense.

>>96068835
but you should
Brazil numba juan!

>>96068849
How are you even alive with that massive beam rammed right through your eyes?

>>96068849
nta but unless you can define what "being political" means, it's a moot conversation
Is depicting villains winning in your story political? Most people would say no, but a lot of countries have or had censors for that, it's been a political topic.

>>96068832
it's for an aristocrats kind of deck, not necessarily monob aggro
as for whether that sort of deck would be viable or not, that's something else

>>96068855
How do you figure that if most of the on-going tournaments aren't even in Brazil?

>>96068866
I'm american. Any poor place with brown people that speaks spanish might as well be brazil for me

>>96068805
THIS IS A HOME INVASION

>>96068874
So Michigan, Oregon, New Jersey, etc. are all Brazil to you?

>>96068874
>Any poor place with brown people that speaks spanish might as well be brazil for me
California?

>>96068888
HOLY BASED TOG QUADS!

>>96068893
>large mixed race and negroid populations
Yup

>>96068901
What the fuck is going with American, man.

>>96068860
>nothing has ever happened and even if it had you only think that because you're BIASED
>uhm, actually, anytime you say "please stop" it's actually YOU trying to propagandize ME
>so anyway here's Chandra redrawn to look like a man, if you notice it then you're doing exactly what you accuse others of!

>>96068911
>>Chandra
Umm. ACKtually it's Chandler. Stop deadnaming him.

>>96068911
You're a special sort of idiot, aren't you? Yikes. I wouldn't want to live if I were as dumb as you.

>>96068691
Mark writes the questions on sockpuppet accounts.
Mark answers the questions on his main account.
Simple as.

>>96068933
It's not going to work, anon. Social shaming doesn't work on people who are confident in themselves.
You think it works because it works on you, but it doesn't.

>>96068888

>>96068940
>people who are confident in themselves
A trait all too common in the terminally stupid. I suppose I should have expected as much from a delusional chud.

>>96068256

this card is insane, but it has no protection so it's ass

>>96068256
>>96068996
>Evendo
>Even Do
As in "Even though it's so over rate, it's unplayable garbage because of reckless powercreep."
lumao

Playable Baloth
GGG
6/6
Your opponents can't (if they could, they no longer can, they can't even, they can't odd)

this could be modern legal in 2025

Spaceship won the "most unplayable mechanic of the year" award

>>96069033

>>96068950
man i remember this being one the first rares i ever got

>>96069033
>Land - Island
>Cycling (1)(U)(U)
>When you cycle Mistake Island, counter target spell.
Rumor has it the snapcaster guy originally wanted something like this. Maybe we're finally at the point WotC would print it.

>>96069033
>doesn't trigger prowess
worthless

This card is absolute bullshit and overpowered as fuck

>>96069123
Fuck it, we should just embrace Yugioh style phrasing at this point. Full retard, full powercreep.
>This card, and all its activated abilities are also treated as non-creature spells.

reusable flicker to keep warped creatures

>>96069142
>glowing eyes
>bald
>glowing head stripe
They're subconsciously conditioning us to accept Avatar before it drops.

>>96069125
So Omniscience is going to be in standard again?

>pioneer finally has an amulet titan equivalent
I will now play your format

>>96069163
forgot link :https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7229514#paper

>>96069033
I want this exist to utterly rape people in legacy lands decks
>OOOOOOOOOHHHH IM LOOOAAAAMMMIIINNNGGG
>discard 3 volcanos to face for 9
>repeat until dead

>>96069007
>it's unplayable garbage
Ah yes, just like how Sheoldred and Cori were unplayable

>>96068784
>brazilians
>speaking Portuguese
lol
laffs even

>>96069163
>>96069169
I told you guys Wandering Minstrel would see play eventually.

Goodbye Repair and Recharge
Goodbye Campus Restoration
Goodbye Invasion of Tolvada
Hello Portent
Hello Kona
Hello Reenact
Hello Yuna

>>96069225

>>96068464
...wider...

>>96069198
brazilians speak spanish

>>96069225
I will miss battles like you wouldn’t believe I can’t believe instead we are getting this absolute Station garbage.

Besides Space Opera was a great moment for Land Destruction and Battles but why do that when you can just make an unplayable Crew version or keep the obsessive token bloat with lander/ammunition? Praying Hasbro goes bankrupt

>>96069292
>Praying Hasbro goes bankrupt
Seeing as we live in the clown world timeline, I'm hoping for Rudy to somehow buy WotC before the end.

>>96069225
Good thing we still have lots and lots of creature reanimator.

you forgot to include the new secret lair called "Virgin Islands" this is the only one i've seen so far

>>96069125
>pay X
>4 lands a turn 2 mana creature
t-thanks

I'm still working through the EoE story. The cat plotline has me hooked and I need to see the payoff. I've got to say I'm a real sucker for these "humans as seen through alien eyes" moments like I'm posting here.

Also
>wotc writing so bad ablooboo

fuck off, it serves its purpose of making the cards in the card game more interesting. Sorry some of you are incapable of finding joy in anything anymore.

>>96069332
so you got an artifact land, enchantment land, land, land and creature?
so you cast the free creature and draw 3 lands

>>96069347
>Sorry some of you are incapable of finding joy in anything anymore.
When you taste good food it is hard to have to eat indian slop or factory made (full of chemicals) artificial food.

And it is not that old WotC writing was really good but instead it was not as bad as today.

>>96069498
>When you taste good food it is hard to
nope, fuck off. I've read good fiction and plenty of it, and I'm still able to enjoy the extra depth and flavor these stories give to the card game I enjoy. It's a you problem.

I got bad news to you, what you considered "good fiction" has been in fact slop

>>96069535
>I got bad news to you
ESL trying to talk about good reading.

>>96069347
>it serves its purpose of making the cards in the card game more interesting

Sadly, this is a case of the worldbuilding not being reflected at all in the cards / art. Solar Knights in the story: Full body 40K armor filled to the brim with lasers, mirrors, computers and automated systems that respond to any and all threats. Solar Knights in cards: People wearing thin armor and holding swords.

WHERE IS LOOT???

>>96068805
Go back to the arena general

>>96069673
>art...
:|

>Art, but with a black hole!!!!!!!!!!
:O

>>96069650
Fuck, he is going to show up in Lorwyn, isn't he?

>>96069650
>>96069673
Always bet on lands

>get matched in best-of-one against mono-white control with NO artifacts or off-color
>playing some shitty Dimir reanimator deck
>destroy the deck completely
Mono-White really is garbage. White Schizo really is right.

>>96069655
hahahahahaah of course the premodern favela schizo is an alchemy kid who has never played paper magic in its life

>>96069707
Mono-white has some polarizing matchups.
It's a boardwipe tribal deck that draws 3 cards a turn
but it plays entirely at sorcery speed so it's soft to combo.

>>96069347
God there's some ideas in this story I absolutely love.

Fighting an enemy with the power to alter the past but not the present, meaning the enemy can change past circumstances in any way that cause them to still lead up to the present state of things.

So what do you do? set up the most chaotically deterministic system possible centered on your own individual particulars so nothing about your current (or past) actions or qualities can ever be changed in even the slightest way without creating a different outcome.

I love this.

Also the twins (one eaten by the black hole, one escaped) are obvious symbolism for the (layman's understanding of) hawking radiation, where two virtual particles are created at the event horizon and only one escapes.

Also hole-in-the-hand that lets you do magical things, obvious jesus allegory. Both of these things won't be appreciated by 99% of readers though I suspect. Shame. There's stuff to enjoy here.

Were mh3 packs mappable? I bought some random packs for a whacky draft and the two mh3s I got had like seven cards in common.

check your inbox
wotc sent out the emails, you can already get your boxes shipped

>>96069758
Who cares.

>>96068691
>no question, just wondering if you had any thoughts on that.

boy final fantasy collector boosters are pretty expensive huh.

It's because of the serialized gold chocobos right? This is like a one-ring level of "chase the shiny thing and hope I get rich"?

>>96069737
>The Viy is an influential Russian horror novel. The eponymous creature -ostensibly folkloric but seemingly made up for the novel- has an iron face, limbs like roots, and eyelids so large they drag on the ground and cannot be opened without assistance. It is the chief of the spirits or 'gnomes' of the novel and can "see everything" when it's eyes are open.

>>96069655
I have never been on an arena general or even know what the hell arena is for that matter.

>>96069827
considering each one's been selling for roughly 50k a pop, yeah.

>>96069827
I think it's because the ff fans don't know what normal prices are. Eternal reminder of the Terra statuette.

>>96069849
it's a 1/1 creature

>>96069655
>premodern spammer is the arena schizo
it makes sense now, it's the same brazilian

Just so you know, online is very rigged.
I specifically put FOUR Wildfire Howls into my deck of 60 specifically for these situations where retards just spam weak minions to prevent me from getting to them.
In this situation where as many minions and turns as you can imagine had been played, I never saw one of those fucking cards once. Spent turn after turn saying fucking Wildfire Howl now, fucking Wildfire Howl now please. Did not see one. Four cards in 60. Easily over 40 turns. You tell me.
This shit happens all the time. I’ll have cards I need that magically dry up despite being saturated in the deck, like randomly not getting lands for ten turns at a time when I need them, then nothing but lands when I need real cards.
It’s beyond random or just unfortunate.
I ended up conceding the game in picrel after between 40-50 turns because I was just tired of the bullshit. Over thirty minutes later and I still had not seen the one card I needed. At that point he was even getting dangerous because he had an infinitude of 1/1 soldiers and was casting spells to cut down on my own cards. Just retarded.

>>96070335
Had neither of you done any damage at that point?

>>96070379
Probably what 90% of newbie games are like.

>>96070379
He’s just coincidentally back at 25. I hit him hard and fast early and took him down to 7. After that he started spamming weak minions to stave off defeat as I expected, so I played the Authority of the Counsels I had been saving. At that point all I needed was one of the fucking FOUR Wildfire Howls I had to finish him off. Turn after turn he kept blissfully spamming 1/1s and using cards that automatically spammed new 1/1s while I sat there gaining infinite life and waiting for a single Wildfire Howl. This absurdity extended easily over half an hour, maybe more like an hour. At some point he gained some life back ig.

>control is unplayable
>gonna be even worse after rotation

>>96070398
You gotta get more creative.

>>96070433
No, I don’t. I’m not the problem. I never get Wildfire Howl in these situations, yet I get other cards that I only have 1 or 2 of every game. Every game. I ALWAYS get Cut In, which you see in the pic right on cue, as an example. There is one of those. I originally had 2 Wildfire Howls and went out of my way to max it out and get it for fucking once. The app was so determined to still fuck me that you’ll even get the pic I posted before it indulges me. It will literally make it the last four cards of the entire game before it gives me one. That is not on me. I’m doing my part to craft my deck with cards for specific situations. When it’s rigged and refuses to give me those cards in those situations there’s nothing I can do.
In this game I had other angles than just Wildfire Howl. I had a Hallowed Priest that was over 30 power that I gave the ability to fly for instance, his next card was conveniently one that returned it to my hand. He did this multiple times and kept getting exactly the cards he needed. It got to the point that I just needed the Wildfire Howl. And it was never going to come.

>>96070460
>It will literally make it the last four cards of the entire game before it gives me one
Ok so just wait until then?

>>96070470
You can’t tell by my pic because the design of the app is shit but there is miles of his cards to either side. I had the upper hand for most of the game but his amount of cards had become overwhelming. I needed it like a twenty turns ago. The tide had turned.
It’s also just the principle of the thing, the fact that it was so resolutely refusing to give me the card that I was at risk of losing such a game is unacceptable. That’s a go fuck yourself moment not a gee whiz let’s see what happens, fun game! moment.

While I’m venting, I’m going to post the most broken cards in this piece of shit game that I’ve encountered so far.
Let’s start with this one. Somehow played by an opponent within the first couple turns. I don’t know how.
Conceded instantly.

>>96069142
>Spend 6 turns stationing a space ship. >Opponent plays this dude and flickers it for 2 mana, removing all of its counters and forcing it to start over
Lmao

Then there’s this retarded shit. I’m pretty sure I’ve been seeing one like this that’s also hexproof but I can’t find it. But anyway this card or one like will just plop down and never leave, preventing all damage.

Urza's Sage price just wen up 50% ~ holy.....

>>96068561
>carrying a glowing staff
>can raise people from the dead
>citizen

>>96070522
>>96070555
Look in to something called "removal", I think you'll find it quite useful.

RIP MTG 1993-2025

>>96070888
>Another league card game
If this is anything like Legends of Runeterra, Riot will abandon it within about a year

>>96070917
They'll give up on it whenever the card game bubble pops. I assume that's why they got into the card game market in the first place.

>>96070962
Why is there a TCG bubble in the first place? I would think the social acceptability, low price and increased ease of access of video games like Valorant would be impossible for TCGs to compete with given that they're much more of a commitment

>deck full of boardwipes/extra turns/etc.
>haste/triggered effect doublers/counterspells to protect her
would this annoy you personally? I play it against my friend since it amuses him (and he gets to play it) but I worry about playing it with other people

>>96070996
Money expenditure is typically a barrier of entry but it does not mean the cheaper hobby will always win. Gaming can be very expensive and popular at the same time (gacha games). Making people spend money is more about psychology than some form of utilitarian analysis.
Magic also kinda got early before gaming became a widely accepted hobby and people still like holding onto things (physical book vs ebook, going to concert vs listening to studio recorded digital releases).

>>96070996
>Why is there a TCG bubble in the first place?
>I would think the social acceptability, low price and increased ease of access of video games like Valorant would be impossible for TCGs to compete with
It's not about the collection itself, it's about the nostalgia. People collect things they always wanted to have as a kid. For Boomers and Gen X, those were usually expensive cars. For Millennials, it's usually gaming rooms will all the gaming components they could ever want. You had people collecting an entire library's worth in 8-bit and/or 16-bit games in the 2000s, now you have people collecting every card ever printed and putting them in dozens of binders like that one pic from a couple threads ago. They do it because it's as close as they'll ever get to feeling like they've achieved that they've always wanted in life.

>>96070996
Ever since people found out how much they could flip Pokémon cards in the pandemic there's been a bit of a second TCG bubble albeit more focused on collecting rather than playing. It's why Magic now has like 5 different alt art and foil treatments for every set and why this league game will now doubt have super mega ultra foil versions of popular champs

>>96070650
New Saga rulings?

>>96070888
i don't think this game will do very well. it looks interesting but if every deck needs a champion i can't imagine these packs being draftable and i doubt anyone would want to drop $100-$500 for a deck to play a brand new tcg considering fab and sorcery are starting to wane in popularity.

>>96068488
Why isn't this like 4 damage?
Were they too chicken to make another Glory Bringer

>>96068488
why is this a rare? given what it does it seems like it should be an uncommon

>doomsday kills ant storm
>spy kills doomsday
Crazy how much faster combo decks have to be these days.

>>96069169
>2 sorcery speed removal spells main deck
This guy just queued into Phoenix every round or what?

I think this set looks cool, lads. Hope it drafts well.

>>96068540
Three mana 4/5 haste flier that can be cast later for five mana feels like a rare to me

You guys would be bitching pretty hard about this card within a week of it releasing if it also dealt 4 damage to a creature

redditor shill is back

>>96069347
>>96069737
This is another Duskmourn where the world building team and the artists put in 200% of the effort into making absolute kino but the actual game designers (and the diversity consultants) make it so that it only shines in the actual cards half the time.

People bitch about diversity, and sure, there's some eye rolling stuff, but really, the main problem is how these sets need a big amount of mandatory meme cards. Meme MTG references, meme culture references, meme funnay shit. It's so overbearing.

>>96071451
>Station
I have bad news for you anon...

>>96071333
Cuz it would be completely broken?

I see very playable cards constructed bros… and lets not mention modern/pioneer/older formats

>>96071212
2020 showed Hasbro that bored people spend $$$

>>96069827
It's the surge foil waifus and husbandos.

>UB SET OF NEXT YEAR
>TRANSFORMERS
They fucking would

>>96071700
Anon, they already did Transformers. And using their own IP doesn't bring in as much, especially with something that has more comparative niche appeal like Transformers.

Will it flop?

>>96070522
Wait until you learn about phyrexian obliterator (and he’s balanced just like this card) hard color pips like this are very restrictive for building you essentially have to go mono colored

>>96071747
It'll probably do fine. I doubt it'll outsell FF, because even Spidey fans don't like Spidey much lately. That it has Miles, Gwen, Miguel and Venom involved does probably mean it'll have wider appeal, because Peter fans are kind of just suffering lately.

>>96071700
Wasnt Star Trek?
Also how much time will this 6 sets a year last? Really they think people can endure this?

>>96071747
I swear to god, who will be the faggots that consoom this shit for real...

>>96071771
Come to Arena white man...

>>96071771
I see 4 new commander decks for me and my pod

>>96071771
I like Venom.

>>96071762
>Also how much time will this 6 sets a year last?
Wasn't it the same the last few years?

>>96071771
>>96071882
Not all sets where standard legal

>>96071821
go back to your containment thread, faggot

>>96071771
Where's the Mary Jane card?

>>96071821
There's literally no commander decks for Spider-Man.

>>96071796
>In Arena you will not get Peter Parker, Spider-Man!!! Thank god, license problems!
>Instead you will get Parker Peter, Male Spider!!! All is fine!
Lol
Lmao even

>>96069033
tap, 1 life to make R
tap, R, sac to deal 3

>>96071840
Miles as Green feels so odd, just sort of a "nothing else fits" I guess. He's got green in him as any Spider-Person does due to the natural origins of the powers, but he feels more red as a core colour.

>>96072041
don’t worry you will get Mary Jane, Uncle Ben and Aunt May cards. Uncle Ben will be golgari because you know… graveyard.

>>96071771
>Spider man
>Not reach
One job......

>>96072091
Spider-Man's more likely to have flying while attacking or something. This isn't his 'main' card, and we might get multiples of Peter alone, so.

Fucking god, can’t we get DFT 2.0 before this Marvel shit? Seriously I will take ANYTHING before this trash

>>96072097
Every spider has reach bro........

>>96071771
ngl I will love to the see grasping tentacles as the ultimate kill support card. if uw will not give support to cool mechanics like prison, land destruction, artifacts or mill i will be fine with ub doing it

>EOE isn't even out yet
>spiderman spoiler season isn't even 2 months away

>>96072105
Most do, but most Spiders are actual full Spiders, not people who have Spider powers.

>>96072114
This rhythm is fucking ridiculous and I don’t know who they are fooling to waste hard earned money into cards every two months

>>96072105
https://scryfall.com/search?q=type%3Aspider+-o%3Areach

>>96072074
No, it's called Universes Within for a reason. It will be all Magic, it will be like the Core Set of old. How much you are willing to be we will get a new Venser?

>>96071796
rigged shuffler
no modern
one way cashgrab jew "economy"

>>96072122
The whole point of UB is to create a constantly revolving door of external fanbases to blow their load into the game one after another. Hasbro prefers the cock carousel to a consistent relationship with its fans, you see.

is modern even alive anymore?

>>96072184
it is on mtgo

>>96072164
that’s an upside
>>96072184
only by boomers and retarded paypiggies

>>96072184
I think it's the largest format on mtgo, although I think mtgo is just a husk now.

maybe, JUST maybe

>>96072243
>modify these mammaries and try again

>>96072243
Looks like they misspelled
>Chandler, Spark Hunter

>>96072270
>>96072249
You really just have one goddamn joke.

>>96072114
At this point every new set is just [existing card] + [set mechanic]. And set mechanics aren't novel either.

>>96072295
YWNBARW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm5-hbO9XA0
new aids just dropped

>>96072485
>Retard doesn't know that the space kang can be removed with only one card if you use Nowhere to Run.

>>96072559
yeah and he can also be removed by sweepers and edict effects

>>96068464
There is none
t. Pauperbvll

>>96072575
I'm pretty sure Pauper has End the Festivities

waiting for a single playable spacecraft or planet to be spoiled

>>96072401
I'll be boros if I want to.

>>96068691
>this set feels much more political
What? What is political about this set

>>96072633
The entire worldbuilding for this set is different factions warring over ideological principles

>>96070888
>Censored jinx
Already hard pass

>>96072243
Looks like she had boobs and they were edited out.

just bought 4 80 card deckboxes, 500 matte sleeves and a new 160 binder for $36

>>96068601
*four Grizzly Bears. There are traditionally two in the art and its name is Grizzly Bears.

I will make this chad work and you can't stop me

>>96072695
when do we find out wotc is directly run by satan

>>96072877
Weapons Manufacturing and Token Double

>>96072695

>turn 1 burst lightning to face
>turn 2 lightning strike to face
>turn 3 burst lightning + lightning strike to face
guess what turn 4 has lmao

>>96073147
Is it FOUR FUCKING BOLTWAVES?

>>96073119
But where are the hips?

>>96073181
>Exactly 10 life

>>96073209
I ping myself with my painland, your move

>>96072659
One of which is "let's all kill ourselves"

>>96073229
3 boltwaves

>>96073243
with what mana fizzleboy

>Burn
Non existent
>Control
Banned by the powercrept
Are WotC retarded? How bad they are at design?

>>96073209
The Endstone Counter

>>96073258
your UW control, anon?
also all red decks can go fuck themselves simple as

>>96073258
Control doesn't feel banned to me, I'm at 70% winrate with UW playing 18 interaction spells

>>96073235
They said this set wouldn't directly rip off any existing sci fi so it could be its own thing
and then they just make the necromonger empire

the immortal faller is just the holy half dead

>>96068996
"Dies to removal" means nothing when it costs as much as the removal to play and is likely to get a hit in regardless due to Haste.

>>96070888
Do people even give a fuck about League of Legends?

>>96068996
>>96073381
doesn't matter we already have a better card

Lets face it
RG is easier to cast than GG
can't be countered isn't relevant
damage prevention isn't relevant
trample really doesn't matter with 3/2 body

Wildfire wickerfolk gets +1 power with delirium and contributes +1 extra type to delirium and gets itself out of range of burst lightning / torch the tower

>>96073418
I think Lorcana is much more of a threat.

Remember when I said banning monstrous rage would literally do nothing because it's just a combat trick
LMAO

how do you see cards from the final fantasy commander precons?

>>96073436
>RG is easier to cast than GG
?????

>>96073436
>can't be countered isn't relevant
It's relevant in modern. JotC is printing cards entirely just for modern and cummander now.

>>96073544
if you have two copperline gorges, you can cast an RG, RR or GG spell
if you have a mountain and copperline gorge, you can cast an RG spell or RR spell but not GG spell
if you have a forest and copperline gorge, you can cast an RG spell or GG spell but not RR spell
if you have a forest and mountain you can cast an RG spell but not RR or GG
if you have a forest and forest you can cast a GG spell but not RG or RR
if you have a mountain and mountain you can cast an RR spell but not GG or RG

these six permutations stand in for all the ways to cast spells with some lands that make 2 colors and some that only make 1
of those 6 permutations, there are 4 ways to cast RG and only 3 ways to cast RR or GG, and when you're locked out of RG its because you kept an unlikely hand that only has access to one color of mana which locks you out of over half your deck so you probably needed to mulligan
yet its easier to get a hand which has both colors of mana, but can't cast one of either RR or GG spells

basic concept has always existed in MTG, its always easier to cast spells with 1XY instead of 1XX or 1YY, and a card with XXX like necropotence basically means you need every land in your deck to make X mana

>>96069033
>12 instant free damage in every opening hand for every deck

It's a kind of balance I guess... But you could just update starting life to be 8 instead.

>be my lgs
>only do pre-release and fnm drafts of current standard legal set
>no constructed formats
>no commander
>only sells boosters from a single play booster box to fulfil the minium requirements to get product
>sells no displays, collector, starter, precons or other shit from wotc
>never had cancel due to unfulfilled orders from his distributor
>"I dont make money with Magic."
>"I only do this because you guys keep signing up."
>in business for over 20 years
yep. it's based.

Absolute noob here, only experience with TCGs is a bit of Yugioh when I was a kid and some hearthstone.

I got FOMO'd into buying the Final Fantasy 6 commander deck.

What now? Where is best to learn how to play? I don't wanna just show up to a commander event knowing nothing.

>>96074128
>commander
ask here >>96067953

>>96074151

Thank you anon.

>>96074128
Commander thread is over here >>96067953
MTG Arena is a good free to play way of learning the basics of Magic if you are an absolute beginner.

>>96074128
>I don't wanna just show up to a commander event knowing nothing.
you would actually fit in quite well with the average commander player
that said you could try arena until you have a basic understanding of the game it has a little tutorial that will teach you the bare essentials and you can just spam quick matches until you understand the mechanics more thoroughly

>>96074128
Switch to a better designed game before you spend too much on this one.

The fact that they felt obligated to post this article is evidence that they have heard the hat set complaints loud and clear, and hopefully that they've learned something

Narrator: They haven't.

>>96074328

>>96074128
It’s a simple game to learn I sat down with a friend who had never touched a card and in the course of a faux commander game got him up to speed, he won pod games the next day against some seasoned players.

Just get someone to teach you like you’re five

>>96072295
The Non-binary has larger breast than Chandra. She clearly got a mastectomy.

>>96072633
Let's start
1.The Pinnacle is a communist utopia were the currency is clout.
2.Monoist are a terrorist organization that sends suicide bombers to defend their holy mission.
3.The Summist are an African Theocracy with white lower caste that they use as sacrifices against the terrorists. They also hide the origin of their religion.
4.The Kav and Eumidian is a South Africa allegory. The Kav believe they should control Evendo when it became a flourishing planet ,despite rejecting it when it was a frozen wasteland, because they are the sole native sapient species. The Eumidian turned the frozen wasteland into a paradise yet are descended from colonist aliens.
5.The rich and powerful Kavs destroyed their planet despite constant warning signs from the planet. An allegory for global warming.

>>96073235
They are basically the Evangelicals wanting to prepare the apocalypse and speed it up so they can get to heaven quicker.

DAILY REMINDER:
MAGIC CARDS SHOULD NOT COST MORE THAN $20
>MAGIC CARDS SHOULD NOT COST MORE THAN $20
MAGIC CARDS SHOULD NOT COST MORE THAN $20
>MAGIC CARDS SHOULD NOT COST MORE THAN $20

How were the Ravnica novels? The only MtG book I've read was the original (Arena), and it seems like an interesting setting.

>>96074281
It's not because of the complaints that feedback should begin to show up by next year or 2027. It's because of Universe Beyond they don't want to make off-brand Spider-man when the next set has actual Spiderman. In fact the article only forbids allusions but not tropes. Meaning we'll still get tropes like 'creepy twins' but not actual allusions the twins from the Shining.

>>96074626
That's a thing?

>>96074687
>That's a thing?
Google "millenairianism"

>>96074687
It's what they think will happen.

>>96074696
I mean, like, that's "believing in the apocalypse". I think that's different from "actively wanting it to happen quicker"
Most apocalyptic religions wanted to PREVENT the end of the world. I think it doesn't really make sense for Christianity to try and make it happen quicker, doesn't God want you to be generally good? Trying to force the end of the world (and presumably the deaths of millions) sounds like the sort of stuff that'd get you sent into Hell when it actually happens.

>>96074671
I mean if they're doing sets based on genres they kinda have to do the tropes to some extent. Mark also called out that what some people THINK are allusions are actually just tropes, but people lack familiarity with the genre outside of one big thing.

>>96074640
Haha!
Try Modern.

>>96074661
The first novel is totally great. Fun detective story with Ravnica as a backdrop, and the climax is personally really memorable to me. The quality goes down as you go along, replaced by the final book with body swaps an kaiju slop. But if you are a fan of Ravnica I highly recommend reading at least the first novel, Cory J Herndon does a great job fleshing out the plane. I fondly remember him visiting MTGSalvation chats to do Q&A's back in the day. Wish he'd had more work with Magic.

>>96074640
once a set rotates out of standard wotc should release bundles for each color with 4x of each card from that set
but wotc is jotc

>>96074687
They are the ones that keep wanting to send money to Israel because according to their prophecy Israel needs to be controlled by the Jews for the apocalypse commence and bring their salvation.
Here is core events that need to happen according to Evangelicalism.
1.All Jews must return to Israel.
2.The Antichrist will establish a 7-year "peace" covenant with Israel
3.The temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem
4.The Antichrist will violate his agreement with Israel 3.5 years in.
5.Israel will recognize Jesus as their Messiah
6.Israel will be regenerated, restored, and regathered
Obviously after that there will be a great war against hell.

>>96071401
Warp + haste is too complex for little kids, please understand.

>>96074671
Magic works three years out so any actionable feedback from the hat set era will begin to be felt by 2027 at the earliest. What I'm saying is that they noticed the criticism enough to feel the need to do preemptive PR about before upcoming sets are released. "This is not a hat set!" might as well be the title of the article.

The presence of UB making them want to be less on the nose with their in-universe references may be the one good influence on Magic I can credit to UB.

>>96074756
Warp is cool
But what about Station and Lander tokens?

>>96074750
>detective story
Hat story.

>>96074755
Damn UB are getting wild

>>96074820

>>96069827
It's because chocobo hype, surge foils, and generally great art. It's overpriced as fuck so if you get something good you might as well hold onto it because it will appreciate in price due to crazed final fantasy fans giving tributes to their waifus.

>>96068911
LILIANA
THEY TOOK MY TIIIIIIIIIITS!

>>96074687
America has a lot of religious crazies in it. Why do you think they keep giving Israel war money?

Armageddon isn't just a word that means cataclysmic end of the world, it's a specific hill in Israel where the final war of all time that ushers in the second coming of christ is prophesied to begin. I kind of wish somebody would just drive a civilian-made nuke there and glass to a giant radioactive uninhabitable crater, just blow the whole shit to kingdom come so they would realize there is not in fact one coming. It would even calm the jihadists down because they believe it too. Basically everybody but Zionist Jews, and they'd be neutered without hand-over-fist burgerbucks.

>>96071771
>>96071747
>get one of the most successful properties ever
>give it absolutely shitty artwork
This will only sell if they go even further with the super collectors edition than they did with final fantasy. They need to just make up some golden spider card and this will sell out

>>96074718
>believing in the apocalypse
ἀποκάλυψις means "revelation" or "disclosure." Many people go through ἀποκάλυψις of their own from time to time.
>it doesn't really make sense for Christianity to try and make it happen quicker, doesn't God want you to be generally good? Trying to force the end of the world (and presumably the deaths of millions) sounds like the sort of stuff that'd get you sent into Hell when it actually happens.
It's not relevant to millenarianism though being good to others and following the commandments are the teachings of Jesus and his disciples.
>>96074696
>millenairianism
Is correctly understood, when removed from the slander of people who disagree with it or even misuse, to simply be the belief in a literal millennial kingdom. As in ἀποκάλυψις 20:1-6 where after Jesus is said to have returned, where Jesus and his followers are supposed to rule over the world. It has nothing to do with forcing the return of Christ or the end of the αἰών (age; not world). A proper understanding of Christian dogma, the scriptures, and the language would imply that such a thing cannot be forced. That would be more of something you would find in Jewish messianism such as that of the Frankist movement or Sabbatai Zevi's cult. But then again the American Evangelical movement is religion for Shabbos goy.

Moreover, a proper understand of the bible would lead one to realize that no one goes to heaven at the end of the αἰών, rather everyone would inherit a perfected Earth after the millenium. Any idea that people can bring about the apocalypse sooner has nothing to do with Traditional Millennialism as would be found in the beliefs of the early church fathers.

>>96074798
I like lander as a a limited mechanic. Landfall, void (stuff leaving play) and artifacts matter are all things that are relevant in this set and Lander token achieve all of those at once

>>96074640
When garfield said that phrase he intended A MAGIC CARD SHOULD COST $20 AFTER SEVERAL YEARS AFTER RELEASE AS A COLLECTIBLE LIKE POST STAMPS THAT YOU BUY AND DON'T EXPECT THEM TO BE WORTH 20 DOLLARS RIGHT AWAY.

>>96074281
>WIZARDS
>EVER LEARNING
LMFAONTFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKOOOOK
>>96074542
#MAKECHANDRASTITSBIGAGAIN

>>96068691
>AN ENGLISH TEACHER WHO CANNOT LOCATE AMERICA ON THE MAP IS PREACHING XIS IGNORANT AND RETARDED OPINIONS INSTEAD OF TEACHING ENGLISH
>FANTASY IS "LESS POLITICAL" BECAUSE WE IGNORE IT ON PURPOSE SINCE ALL FANTASY IS 99% EUROPEAN AND THUS EVIL AND ALSO SCI-FI IS GUCCI SINCE ALL WE KNOW IS MARVEL MOVIES WH40K AND USING FREUDIAN PILPUL TO SEE MEANINGS WHERE THEY ARE NOT

Imagine if that fucking faggot of Hadrian did his fucking job.

>>96074281
>a solar system with five planets, one for each of Magic's colors
When he puts it like that, it sounds like he's just regurgitating Alara.

>>96075211
We would be fortunate to get some regurgitated Alara at this point.

>>96068691
based mark making the chuds seethe lol

>>96072595
End the festivities is not an edge of eternity card anon.
Also not played that much anymore since kuldotha got sent to the bin.

>>96073256
The 3 mana I got from exiling the mana monkeys I stole from the legacy players two tables down.

I've been out of the loop since the bannings, did they fix the game? Is UR dead? Is Dimir back?

Has aggro been solved?

>>96075450
> Is UR dead
No
> Is Dimir back?
Yes

>>96075450
>Is UR dead?
it's a vivi deck now
>Is Dimir back?
yes, but only until rotation

>cradle control

>>96074281
>and hopefully that they've learned something
AAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

They really need to get rid of the reserved list and then start printing everything again? Not just making a new reprint with the shitty nu-border and shitty art. But the old stuff with the old art for a really cheap price. Like $2.50 per booster pack. Booster packs should cost no more than $2.50.

>>96075578
this post is antisemitic

did they stop making these box/case bundles? i was looking to get one from the final fantasy set and then use the box to hold my decks in, like ive done for rise of the eldrazi and theros.

Why aren't other formats this balanced?

>>96075660
Because of FIRE (2019+) and proto-fire (Mirrodin to 2019)

>>96075660
To appease the new players who want the game to be as simple as pokemon, they decided to nerf all the interaction while buffing all the creatures.

>>96072208
>arenagoy calls anyone else a paypig
lmao

>>96075660
i wish people actually played premodern in my area online play just isnt the same

>>96075699
be the change you want to see
>get some bulk sleeves and deck boxes from china
>go to your local print shop
>print out some premodern decks in 300/350gsm stock paper
>invite people to play premodern games between fnm rounds or before/after the event
>get people interested in the format that way

>>96074281
The only thing they've 'learned' is how to blame the fans for wanting things that the designers/developers don't want to do.
JotC will always just tell the fans they are enjoying the product wrong and are wrong for wanting 'problematic' or 'unfun' things.

>>96074661
If you are a fan of Discworld, have read all of the [good] Discworld books and want more Discworld then you will very much enjoy the Ravnica books. They are not as good as actual Discworld but they are a very decent-enough follow up.

dumb premodern shills

>>96075680
>arenagoy
At least I'm not Jewish.

>>96075747
It's just educating the audience since they are in a completely different sphere from their audience in language. If the audience wants less allusions they should say that instead of saying they want less tropes.

why the fuck doesn't wotc print "Copy" tokens for each set that utilizes them? it honestly pisses me the fuck off they take the take to make tokens of every thing else for each set, but for whatever reason, they look at copy tokens and go "nah".

>>96075855
>I want less shit in my food!
>Ahem, monsieur, le next course will contain more solid shit and less liquid shit, per your request

>>96075884
They have limited token space and art budget and Copy tokens are not considered a necessity

>>96075660
You can say whatever you want about Premodern but is the ideal state every format should be. Maybe not exactly those numbers but you can see here each archetype and gameplay represented, there is no a clear domination and you can play many decks without embarass yourself. This is the contrary of all those "supported formats"

>>96074845
We already have the war at Tel Megiddo a world heritage site recognized by UNESCO.

>>96075888
Most people liked the tropes of Bloomburrow and didn't hate the allusions since they weren't familiar with what it was alluding to. Players want more tropes they like and less allusions.

>>96076020
But AEtherdrift was filled to the brim with general racing tropes and virtually no noticeable allusions to specific famous races, and players despised it. What makes a good trope?

Pushed

>>96076089
POWERFUL
WHITE
CARDS

>>96076089
>angel
>no flying
Come on

>>96076121

>>96076089
I'm liking the thigh vibes from this one.

>>96076089
fuck wizards for printing bullshit like this, just fuck them
its like they go out of their way to increase the play/draw disparity as much as fucking possible
print aggro cards that punish your opponent for going second
print aggro cards that snowball only if you go first

>>96076054
The 2 most hated cards were an allusion to Mario Kart. Tropes aren't inherently good or bad it's a matter of both expectations and execution. Dragonstorm tried to rid itself of many tropes and people disliked those changes.
1.The Sultai are no longer an evil empire
2.The Abzan have more colorful clothing and armour.
With Ætherborn the people weren't complaining about the tropes but rather the mechanics. People not like vehicles. Start your engine being a terrible name. And just disliking specific characters. Loot being on many cards.
A good trope is subjective as some people will like and others will hate.

>>96076089
retard here
someone explain how is this good? You just plot the least useful card in your hand

>>96076121
People want a mono green angel so this will help them get used to the idea of flightless angels.

>>96076161
Tax, not plot.

>>96076162
>People want a mono green angel
Who? Why?

>>96076089
WHITE SCHIZO FUCK YOU
Man seriously? Tax at one? This is ridiculous i fucking hate this company

Pauper playable? This gets 2 counters from artifact creatures right?
is 4 mana 12/12 or whatever the fuck good enough for this to see play?

>>96076171
>Who?
Some anon from this general.
>Why?
I don't know probably because other colors already got a monocolor angel.

>>96076153
I'm still not sure Daring Mechanic is a Mario reference. He's, like, VAGUELY Mario-coded in art, but nothing else about him is.

>>96076188
No, it's a single thing per artifact creature. If it were two separate abilities that gave +1 per creature and +1 per artifact, you'd be right.

>>96076188
Best case scenario (including at least one artifact land) is about a 6/6 on turn 4. That isn't awful, but unless you benefit greatly from the counters for other uses then this isn't anything special.

>>96076209
not sure how big of a difference is it, but in affinity it's probably about a 9/9 on 4. That's usually the turn where you have enough to play Myr Enforcers for free

>>96076188
no evasion, no protection
gonna get hit by sleep of the dead, deem inferior, journey, tithing blade, cast down, toxic anal'd creatures, etc
gets chumped by thrabs, novice, voldaren, prismatic strands, murmuring tokens, rumble / chrysalis eldrazi tokens, etc

>>96076089
This is mediocre, the tax doesn't actually matter until they actually need to play the card. They choose the card too, so unless you've got more synergies with it, you're just taxing someone on the weakest card in their hand.

>>96073346
These are a bit different from the necromonger. Necromonger faith don't want anything to do with the end of the universe or anything, they want to travel to their special holy land to reunite with their dead relatives. Also their marshals get wicked ghost powers while doing so.
The Monoist looks at the end as a form of unification and rebirth for into the new universe. They have more in common with say, cultists in Grim Dawn who believe that dying is a means to return themselves to their true god.
I actually kinda dig this faction. I don't think they are like wholly original but a lot of bits and pieces do stick. Having some sort of noble purpose (unification) makes an evil faction a bit more believable. Also, their idea of "heaven" has scientific theories behind it, so it is a very distorted take on real life faiths (the regular man just wants his 72 virgins). I also dig their costumes (the whole space jellyfish motif).
Can't give a shit about anything else in the set though.

>>96074687
Modern day accelerationism is belief and a movement being spread within and throughout all of the the current online right wing, ranging from your average twitter conservative boomers wanting "to let it all burn down", to the whateverpilled 4channers doomer-posting with the good-times-bad-times-bad-men pastas, to the right wing white-suremacists and other terror groups such as the O9A. The usual core tenets of it are that the society is heading towards an inevitable tolerant leftist hellscape with a total collapse as the unavoidable end result and as the only way out it... Making the hastening of the arrival of that total collapse via discord, strife, fear and violence a moral good.

The movement holds strong similarities with an earlier "accelerationists" movement, a group within fascists in Italy that wanted the world to "accelerate" through conflict, war, destruction and death, to hasten the cultural, economic and technological progress of mankind towards a golden age.

So it's a thing. Just with a religious twist. Religious accelerationism. Aka. A doomsday cult.

>>96076151
>print aggro cards that punish your opponent for going second
Thats literally every aggro card though.
>print aggro cards that snowball only if you go first
this is also literally every aggro card

>>96076276
>Thats literally every aggro card though.
>this is also literally every aggro card
No only cards that produce an advantage above the normal draw/go advantage

Look at a card like Liliana of the Veil
On the play the opponent usually only has 0-1 creatures to deal with her and she can -2 to protect herself, then next turn she can tick up and you can hold removal for anything they play, and now she can -2 again if they play a third threat, she locked up the game on her own
On the draw, the opponent might have 2-3 creatures when you play her, she kills one, takes an attack from the other. They have more mana to haste in something to kill her even if she cleared the board.

>>96076153
These are the only tropes I noticed.
1.Savages kidnap someone
2.Racer gets assistance mid race
3.A giant crash
4.Vehicle possessed by ghost
5.Racing host talks a lot
6.Slow and steady wins the race/Underdog victory
7.Cheaters take dangerous shortcut
8. Adrenaline Junkie
9. Animal interferes in race
10.A scoreboard keeps viewers informed
Only 7 of them are specifically racing tropes.

>>96076226
>The usual core tenets of it are that the society is heading towards an inevitable tolerant leftist hellscape with a total collapse as the unavoidable end result and as the only way out it... Making the hastening of the arrival of that total collapse via discord, strife, fear and violence a moral good.
The accelerationists are far right ideologues who cheer far left victories, because they believe it brings the culture closer to an inevitable right wing backlash. This may or may not involve a societal collapse. If they are incorrect about the "inevitable" right wing backlash, they ironically serve as allies to the far left. Prominent examples include Nick Fuentes and his Groyper movement, right wing ideologues who actively campaigned against Trump in the last election.

It's worth noting that there is a left equivalent, though more normalized and maybe less virulent, of people who cheer calamity because they believe any faults or tragedies that befall society at large are indictments of capitalism, and if enough of them accumulate then the communist/socialist utopia will begin to form. I don't see much difference between that and some crazy right wingers who believe their race utopia will form if only enough black people make planes fall out of the sky.

t. Independent

>Me and Opponent down to 3 life
>He has 2 fae tokens untapped and a tapped 3/3 Spyglass Siren with 2 untapped islands
>I attack with 2 Wildfire Wickerfolk and a Fomo on delirium
>He asks me which creature I target with extra combat and I said one of the wickerfolks
>He flashes in floodpits drowner to stun the one I targetted, chump blocking Fomo with the fae token, and mass blocking the unstunned Wildfire Wickerfolk with the drowner and the other fae token so the trample damage only does 2 damage bringing him to 1

Did I get scammed out of this interaction? FOMO extra combat only triggers during attack, so even if he stunned the attacking wickerfolk I chose for extra combat it wouldve still been attacking. So even if he stunned one of them before combat I would just choose another creature to do extra combat with

>>96076347
Yes, you got scammed
FOMOs ability only goes on the stack after attackers are declared
Tapping a creature to prevent it from attacking can only be done prior to declaring attackers
Tapping a wildfire after its attacking doesn't remove it from combat

>>96076383
Fuck, well I'll chalk that one up to experience.

hard r containment

>>96076465
>only targets creatures instead of nonland permanents like the ultimate bullshit LOL I WON THE GAME sheltered by ghosts
I'm okay with this

>>96076465
would modern affinity play this?

>>96076465
chained to the mailbox

>>96076507
>>96076465
you mean chained to the radiator
I mean jesus its right there

>>96076465
Unironically worth at least considering in some lists.
No flash probably kills it as more than a ~2-of though.

>>96076514
Works well in the Grapist deck

>>96076465
I can see Zeotic Glyph decks running 2 on top of Sheltered Ghosts

>>96076514

>>96076188
>Pauper playable?
I hope not. I hope none of the cards from this set are pauper playable. It's already bad enough that some from aetherdrift see play.

>>96076505
no modern deck would play this when static prison exists

>cast stock up, see 4 lands + stock up
>take land + stock up
>cast second stock up
>see 5 lands
>nothing but 6 lands in hand now
>opponent concedes before I can choose which to play before passing the turn while tapped out with no threat and at a dead end

>>96076615
It's funny how that happens. They must think you're pulling some OP combo. I've had people who had way better hands than mine leave on Arena because I countered a couple spells

>>96076666
>6666
I am NOT looking forward to the fact that if I want to play Kona omniscience on arena I'm going to have to use 4-8 mythic wildcards on worthless planets but in paper you can probably get each of them for 10 cents

>>96076666
I think about a third of my wins when playing control come from the opponent conceding when I've got no answers left and four lands in hand.

>>96076473
This is great!

>>96076873
sometimes it's just them getting one card countered and leaving because they're not going to get their five turn win

>>96076615
Imagine not having stockup and drawing 9 lands in a row

Standard rotation soon, what black midrange deck should I play?

>>96076473
Warp is busted. A good chunk of these warp creatures offer already existing powerful effects one time for like 1-2 mana. A couple of these will break standard for sure

>>96077012
Demon Wall.dec. That said, you better pray for a better black emoval card in EoE, you only have Disfigure and Bitter Truimph post rotation.

>>96077025
they are very good with flicker too

>>96077012
The one with the demons.

>>96077012
>midrange
you mean low curve cecil bob aggro right?

>>96077146
I just realized the only reason they call Dimir """""""Midrange""""""""" that is because of Kaito which is 3cc. Otherwise its a UB tempo deck with flyers

>>96077221
>Otherwise its a UB tempo deck with flyers
That's why it's called Dimir Aggro on top8.

>play a 1/1 hydra
>next turn attack for 40 or whatever
the meme landfall deck is satisfying but it folds to any interaction.
Tifa is like the worst card in it somehow.

>>96077221
>>96077238
take dimir "midrange" and swap it around
remove faerie mastermind
remove enduring curiosity
remove preacher
remove tidebinder
remove kaito

>cecil
>bob
>bat
>drowner
>siren
>saboteur
>bronco
>duress
>cut down
>intimidation tactics
>spell pierce
>phantom interference
>shoot the sheriff

figure out the right balance of each and that's the whole deck, cut out all the bloat at the top end

>>96077298
>take out your strongest plays so you can run 40 2-drops
anon that isn't how deckbuilding or mana curves work

>have 8 mana open
>have portent of calamity and get lost in hand
>opponent has a lethal creature on board while tapped out
>weigh my chances of winning game with portent x=7
>but if I don't get a free removal spell or combo off I will lose
>I should take the safer route and figure the hand refill will let me keep going next turn, and just remove his creature
>....
>cast portent x=5 to keep 2 mana open
>exiles omniscience, arcane proxy, stock up, invasion of arcavios and a land

i play swamp, tap it for carnophage and end my turn.

>>96075646
Yeh, they still make bundles with every set. The FF one might sold out though

>>96076089
>2/1 vigilance for W that reveals information
That stat line is awesome for 1 mana.
The tax isn't as big a deal as information reveal, but it will still matter. With flicker or additional taxes there could be something to this though

>>96076089
Good morning I hate WotC

I'm guessing ravager affinity wouldn't be competetive in the modern day?

>>96074820
The sad thing is: even if it was a detective story it was still fantasy and didn't tried to go to "sherlock homes" looks (that Ravnica ClueDo did) but certainly had its soul.
It was a fantasy police story with the main character using "ghost trapper" to interrogate the ghost of the victim of a crime for exemple.
It has some good "every day" scenes of Ravnica.
>>96075646
>rise of the eldrazi and theros.
I think you are thinking about the collection boxes, right. The ones they did for Return to Ravnica, Khans of Tarkir, Battle for Zendikar, Theros, and Kaladesh (poop city). If so, yeah, they stopped. If it is bundle like your image then they haven't.
>>96076089
>Pushed
no shit. 2/1 1 mana and vigilance would be enough but it also taxes a card.
Utterly FIRE bullshit.
>>96076188
cool art nonetheless
>>96076473
looks good.

>>96077221
You have no idea what a tempo deck is. To be a tempo deck it needs to have hybrid cards that are both answer and threat: Spellstutter Sprite, Vendillon Clique, etc.
UB Midrange is just "2-for-1 the enemy until the end of time" and that is literally what midrange means

Newbie here, jumped in because I like Final Fantasy.

I'm kind of turned off by the sheer capitalist nature of this game, it's treated as an investment instead of just a hobby
most of the youtube content I've seen when trying to look into the game is people opening packs and talking about their monetary value
Even at the shop when I bought my one magic box the clerk said "don't worry even if you end up not liking the game you can sell the box for 5 times it's current value in 10 years"

I'm a Warhammer player and there isn't this sense that I'm supposed to be making anything back on my "investment" in that hobby, it's just cool things that I paint and play with, I might sell some of it later but it won't ever be for a profit.

Apologies if it seems like I'm coming here just to attack your game, the game itself seems fun, I guess I just didn't expect to become part of an economic system when I wanted to play a fun card game with Cloud and Sephiroth.

>>96078763
Buying mtg is retarded. Print cards yourself (in the op) or give your money to chinamen for fakes of various qualities. Noone gives a shit if you own real cards or not unless you're playing in tournaments.

>>96076473
Robot bros? Finally a good one!

>>96078763
Don't worry. We attack our game in a daily basis. Because it's a corpse on life support.
There are always cheaper formats if you just want to fuck around and find out. Like Pauper, which uses only cards of common rarity. But even there, there are exceptions.
There's also Arena, a computer video game, which is a decent way to try. But even this can be expensive.
There are also card lending programs. Where you pay a subscription, say $5 up front, and you get to pick and trade back and forth to play around with the cards you want. That's on MTGO, the computer "simulator" (not a video game). The prices there are different too.
Yeah I despise these people too.

>>96074718
Look into Evangelicals, the apocalypse isn't the day everyone gets killed to them. It's the day Jesus takes all the good boys and ascends to chicken nuggie land, and they cannot wait to get to chicken nuggie land. Being a good Evangelical also doesn't mean being what anyone else would consider a good person.

not Magic the Gathering

>>96078818
honestly doesn't seem very good

for 1 mana it does literally nothing on its own
you need to stick the 3 mana side or chain other spells which means probably needing 3+ mana anyway
we already have Third Path Iconoclast in standard and its seeing ZERO play even with cori steel banned. Sure it will rotate too but its legal right now and zero play
And iconclast robots can actually block. This makes 1/1 tokens that can't block, you dump all your mana into this and get run over?

>>96078763
I haven't played mtg for 20 years but came for FF set. Opened 4 collectors for fun and had blast.

>>96076473
Warp is instant speed?

>>96078953
no, that would be broken

Find me one white male on a mono white card from EoE. I’ll wait.

Green is back
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7230619#paper

>>96079148
temporary lockdown says hello

>>96079148
HOLY KINO

>standard

>>96079235
Yes, standard.
It's a fun format.

>>96078377
yes, in fact, someone did try this month
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7215786#paper
it did not go well

>>96078377
In response to you sacrificing an artifact to ravager, I fatal push it

>>96077330
>that isn't how deckbuilding or mana curves work
The traditional burn deck is all 1-2 mana spells with make one 3-cost and a few that let you cast by sac'ing a couple mountains.

>>96079318
>>96077330
I cast a qarsi revenant
Opponent throws a goat at it, trades 1:1 and he's up 1 mana in tempo

I cast a cecil and drowner
Opponent can throw goat at drowner but the trigger already tapped down his creature, or go down 1 mana tempo on cecil
So why don't we just flood our decks with lots of 1-2 drops?
>you run out of cards, opponent plays bigger stuff
which is true except
>bob draws cards
>bronco draws cards
>siren draws a land

Preacher / gix / curiosity draw cards but just slapping mockingbird on bob or bronco is a lower curve and gix will rotate

Swing with Hydra.
If they dont kill it. Damage
If they Kill it, Treasure Tokens for Other Hydras or Biotech Specialist

>>96079349
This. One of the reasons why control is so weak now too is because they all keep putting all these expensive spells into the deck when they should've been trying to get the mana curve down to average cost 2 or less.

>>96079374
naw meng
more like this

4 hemosymbic mite
4 cactaur
4 slickshot showoff
4 callous sellsword // burn together

4 leyline of resonance

4 dreadmaw's ire
4 giant growth
4 turn inside out
4 wild ride
4 snakeskin veil

>>96079423
>4 callous sellsword // burn together
if you are doing Pump the Pipe Bomb. Might as well use Screaming Nemesis

>>96079427
Tap out on turn 3 to play a creature that dies to removal? In a leyline deck?
Why don't you just turn 1 millenium calendar and double its counters every turn, if your goal is to win by turn 10

Buckle up faggot the goal is to win games on turn 2
>t0 leyline
>t1 mite
>t2 mite, wild ride, gg go next

>>96079446
>dies to removal
no one is telling you to play on Curve, SPECIALLY if you have mite Pumping each other on the mean time.

>>96077298
You could still keep a couple masterminds until the format rotates. A 2 cost 2/1 with flying is still good. 2 in the main and 2 in the side. And a couple tidebinders to counter some of the soft removal is great.

>>96079489
>just wait until turn 4-5+ in a LEYLINE deck

>>96079579
>just play mite that dies to removal
nigga

>>96079423
huh
there is no chance Tifa decks want to play cards like Leyline of Resonance, right?

>>96079780
Tifa and Mightform Harmonizer benefiit from it

>>96068576
Bloodghast upgrade

>>96079900
>have to pay mana and life
>upgrade

>come across guy playing some shitty mono-black aggro on arena
>completely stop him from winning with my control deck
>he starts acting like a bitch and stalling
>afk's during sideboard
>comes back
>plays a few rounds
>leaves
Why do aggro-babies do this?

>>96080273
>Why do aggro-babies do this?
i have a better question, why are you playing (((arena)))?

Bake new bread

>>96080676
No.

>>96080676
gimme 10 minutes

finally, the last /mtg/

>>96080786
>>96080786
>>96080786

>>96080385
Because it's free and I don't always have the time to go to a card shop.

>>96068888
*nom*

>>96069157
depends whether topdeck manipulation becomes a thing in future sets

>>96075660
Because other formats have an incentive to actually be competitive ;)