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>>96082596 (OP)
Considering CGL's fear of being sued, how the fuck did they make a Disney TRO?

>>96082596 (OP)
How the fuck do you use this? Just soak the movement penalties and not shoot next turn?

>>96082596 (OP)
Are all proto pilots this fuckable, or is it just Snow Ravens? I feel the need to have a merc force where the force structure is based around every big cock alphachad mechpilot being accompanied by a point of sex toy protomech pilots.

>>96082841
That's battle armor you newfag nogames secondary gooner bitch.

I never really made sense to me why warships don't just add a bunch of limbs randomly sticking out of the ship. They don't even have to be functional, just serve as distractions for the pilots to shoot.

>>96082765
I use it by only firing 1 laser until the enemy is bogged down and getting dog piled. Then both lasers get shoved up their ass. 2 shots and a run on the first turn brings us to 7 heat, 2 shots and walk then brings us to 13, then we're either running behind cover as fast as we can waddle or backing off and firing only one gun until we can reach cover. It's not "ideal", but it can add a lot of weight of fire when it comes time to kill something.
Also when the Hermes II itself is about to die, then who cares about heat? Leave a glowing corpse.

>>96082765
>>96082872
What's wrong with 2-1-2 or 2-1-1-2 pattern?

>Turn 1
>Use MASC
>Immediately blow out both hips
How did your games go?

>>96082857
Can't be battle armor. Battle armor pilots are roided up muscle mommies. I don't think any of them in any MW5 cutscene is under 7' tall. She's too cute and sexy and small to be a battle armor pilot. So she has to be a proto pilot.

>>96082918
>muh vidya
GTFO

>>96082902
Nothing really, I just like being able to bring the 2-2 on command the moment there's blood in the water and the enemy probably isn't getting good TMMs anymore.

>>96082918

>>96082904
The happened to me once when running a Trial of Position. Executioner B turned into a turret with an ERPPC on turn 1. It was hilarious.

Got to play that match against my brother today, doing Instant Action’s Hot Potato scenario. Close match, it was pretty even the whole game but I eked out a narrow victory. I think the only major tactical error he made was ignoring the stormbirds, those had the Hatamoto basically stunlocked from turn 1 and then knocked the poor bastard unconscious from 2 head hits and an ammo explosion. Honestly super impressed with the stormbirds in general, they also shut down the Wolverine later so my war crow could pass the bomb back to an easy target on turn 5 before it exploded at the end of turn 6. My biggest mistake was going for the black knight right after picking up the bomb; I should have built a little more distance instead of walking right up to him and only building 1 TMM. If I had been patient enough to line up a longer run/jump for the next turn I probably wouldn’t have had my heaviest mech cored out in a single turn.

>>96082904
MASC should honestly be free use on the first turn, but then we wouldn’t get fun stories like this lmao

>>96082904
Didn't get to play.

>>96083063
Any thoughts on the scenario? It's by far the silliest one in IA but I like it anyway.

>>96083063
good looking mechs! glad to see them in action!
I am still working on my Periphery project

>>96082956
Also, there are bits of lore that the upper percentiles and outliers of size and strength in the ASF phenotype sometimes get tapped to pilot flying BA like the Sylph.

>>96083187
IIRC youre thinking about an Elemental/Pilot cross someone was working on, mentioned in a DA TRO.

>>96083203
Possibly. There are a lot of books and I can't recall where to start looking.

>>96082904
This was me on Saturday in my campaign game with my Jinggau. Spent the whole game on my back, but still got the command console bonus.

>>96082967
I have a Trial of Position coming up soon, and I use Nova Cats for Clan stuff. Looking at their MUL, I think my best be is probably a Turkina B or E.

>>96083271
Do what you feel is right. We have fluff for a couple Clans. Wolves toss their kids in Dire Wolves and IIRC Falcons in heavies.

Cats can do whatever!

>>96083291
I'm tempted to do a Supernova just for the memes, but I ran a Supernova 2 last time we did some clanner stuff, and wanted to try something different since we're almost always Inner Sphere.

>>96083309

Honestly, a Supernova would make perfect sense for Nova Cats. They're supposed to like lasers a lot, so Supernova is just right!

It's also a nice choice because you're almost certain to get one kill but getting more than that will require some skill.

>>96083291
I'm tempted to do a Supernova again, just for the memes, both the 4 and the 5 are tempting to run. Last time we did Clan stuff, I ran a Supernova 2, so I wanted to do something else, since usually we do Inner Sphere, so I don't have much practice with Clan Mechs.

>>96083330
>>96083309
>Get high, forget you hit the "post" button, so make the same post over again.

>>96082956
Man, this is some millennial character writing.
Feels like something I'd see in borderlands.

>>96082859
>I never really made sense to me why warships don't just add a bunch of limbs randomly sticking out of the ship. They don't even have to be functional, just serve as distractions for the pilots to shoot.
No, PUNCHING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqeXE2h4kuc

>>96083377
I was going to say it's someone's Tumblrina OC bio.

>>96083377
Well it is a goof XTRO about a t̶h̶i̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶v̶e̶i̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶D̶i̶s̶n̶e̶y̶ fantasy themed arena tournament.

>>96083436
I still say the Buccaneer Pan should become a real variant. It's not super heavily armed, but it's so fast that it doesn't matter.

I assume B is more reasonable? It strikes me as odd that you've got the introtech atlas, orion and centurion looking like different sized versions of each other(in terms of weapon loadout) in each weight category but no light.
Somewhat related, I think it would have made more sense with the design objective of being scary if one of the atlas' medium lasers was a head mounted eye laser.

>>96083139
We both thought it was a lot of fun, especially once we started getting chances to hand the bomb back and forth.

>>96083143
Thanks! I’ve got a few more paint jobs planned out for the near future, I’m thinking a house Davion lance and a Jade Falcon star next.

... Would it be wrong to paint my Atlas as if its pilot worshipped Khorne?

>>96082765
>Just soak the movement penalties and not shoot next turn?
That's one way. 6/9 -> 5/8 isn't terrible, and you can still run and fire one LL while sinking a point of heat every round. Like >>96082872 says, you generally only use one LL until you have an opportune moment. Having two large lasers on tap on a 6/9 mech is pretty solid for introtech, regardless of the heat curve.

>>96083909
Moderately. Most of us dislike warhammer

>>96084137
Aw. I just like their colors and accoutrements, like the spikes and skulls.

>>96084153
>>96083909
Indistinguishable from a pirate theme.

>>96084153
What >>96084159 said, Mad Max junk mechs are cool

>>96084169
>>96084159
Who's got that book cover with the banshee wielding the ax? You know the one.

>>96084180
You can hear the guitar riff

>>96084237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kibgXqJuKCM

First coat on the camouflage pattern, need to go over the green again before panel lining.

>>96084288
I'm not a huge fan of the green on tan for a desert camo, but that's the authentic German army right now, so it is what it is.

>>96083521
What are you going to do for Davion?>>96083909
I have been thinking about this and I wonder if part of the desire for more colorful paint schemes represents different IRL eras of interest in BT. For example, the earliest stuff is so IRL militaristic but then with Clan Invasion, things get more colorful. And now again with a lot of the renewed interest in BT coming from people brought up in the miniatures hobby with 40k, there is also a lot of interest in more colorful faction schemes.
>>96084288
These look great!

>>96084368
Honestly I just looked at my Atlas and thought "Wow, that guy would look great all bloody and full of skulls." It was either gonna be a Khorne-worshipping Atlas or a Marian Hegemony. Same thing but blue.

>>96084405
To be honest, it sounds more interesting as a Marian mech than a port from 40k

>>96082904
I forgot quads can kick even if youre not in front of them and my Javelin lost a leg to a Goliath on turn 1. Turn 2 I propped my little dude up on his arms like a seal and my SRMs detonated his MG ammo.

>>96084449
>MG ammo

Ah, the great equalizer...

>>96084440
He'll be blue with skulls then.

>>96083309
>>96083328
>>96083330
We do a free for all with honor points that deliberately make everyone play like a retard to tone down the WAAC Fagging, like you get points equal to the highest heat level you reached at the end of a turn without shutting down.

>>96083456
Congrats its a worse shadow hawk.

>Light mechs going 4/6 and below without even the excuse of a big gun and armor like the Urbie or Panther
what the fuck are you doing

>>96083909
Like everyone else said its fitting for pirates just leave the actual khorne symbol off

>>96083456
I think putting small lasers on this thing is wildly optimistic in either configuration.

>>96084368
>What are you going to do for Davion?
Haven’t settled on one yet, but 8th Crucis Lancers seems like a good option if nothing more interesting comes along. I’m open to suggestions though.

>"Blood for Caesar!"
>"Cockpits for his eternal hanger!"

>>96084288
A thin glaze of brown has transformed the green into a nice militant olive.

>>96084500
Its name is "hyas", what do you think I'm doing?

>>96084646
Also got a couple more variants to do a 3rd lance with.
First is another hatchet wielder that swaps the off-hand large laser for 3 streak SRM 2's with a hundred shots of ammo, next is another artillery that goes for LRMs instead of arrow for with 36 shots of ammo and artemis iv.

I DONT CARE HOW BAD IT IS I LIkE THE EXECUTIONER ANYWAY

>>96084405

>>96084770
That's more orky

>>96084712
> swaps the off-hand large laser for 3 streak SRM 2's with a hundred shots of ammo

>>96084748
-P model best model

>>96084712
Home brew models?

>>96084805
They're pretty obviously just stitched together from MWO parts

>>96084798
>>96084798
because streak-6 wasn't an option for the target era and I wanted a variant that was devoted to short-range, all 4 of these have 4 medium lasers each in the torso.

I’m dealing with some real analysis paralysis on coming up with a paint scheme for these guys

>>96084826

>>96084826

>>96084826

first one ready for cockpit and nose art

>>96084826

>>96084797
Now it goes 9/17!

>>96084569
Crucis is just SLDF colors right?
I am going to do a SLDF lance versus Amaris Dragoons lance in the near future, where I may take some slight liberties with the SLDF scheme by adding some light gray highlights (similar to 5th Crucis) and I’m also thinking how I can make the green more interesting
I like some of the clix-era and later Davion scheme, Swordsworn and the uhh white and yellow ones can’t recall their name

>>96084959

One done

>>96084288
>>96084646
>>96085117
So what's the story with these guys?

>>96085224
The nose art is truescale images of each pilots elemental gf.

>>96085224
>german iconography
>pinup nose art

These are clearly members of the 6th Lyran Guard.

Printed and painted this 28mm house. got a bunch more to do to follow up.

>>96085553
Wait, shit, wrong thread.

Okay, now it's on topic.

>>96085553
Wait, shit, wrong thread. Okay, now it's on topic.

>>96082596 (OP)
Peter Pan is a public domain property with the right to royalties held by Great Ormond Street Hospital.

>>96085117
That has to be the worst iron cross you've done thus far

>>96085224
It's just the continuation of Nazianons "totally not Nazis in space" mydudes

>>96082596 (OP)
She's gonna get a real bad wedgie

>>96086046
And you're going to give it to her?

>>96086046
Is that a bug or a feature?

so, this is probably a weird request, but I was looking for a falcon and a brigand proxy model and remember seeing an artist on cults who had both, unfortunately I didn't download it at the time, and I can't remember the artist's username. all I remember is the thumbnail style for their models. after a few days of exhausting synonyms for pirate and birb, i've decided to ask.
they were highly saturated, with bright colors and backgrounds that gave off slight dragonball vibes. The backgrounds I remember were either a grassland (pictured) or a desert with the same bright blue sky, there might have been more of them.
The models themselves were fairly simple, not super greebled or complex, but not low poly shitpost models, I never looked at them too hard, but they seemed to be unique models rather than kitbashes of MWO designs. they also had a decent number of support vehicles and convee's
>picrel is my best recreation of what I remember the one thumbnail to look like

>>96085068
>Crucis is just SLDF colors right?
Yes, the 8th uses red and silver for detailing though, which I think looks nice together. But like I said, I’m not totally decided yet.

>>96082596 (OP)
Honestly having factions produce warships again was a mistake, the setting has pretty airtight logic up until things move away from mechs into space combat and then the setting's logic really doesn't hold up anymore.

>>96086133
Either smight or JuodasVarnas. Neither is still active on Cults, smight is still on thingiverse.

>>96086301
>modern warfare is just nukes
Same logic.

>>96086369
No this would be more equivalent to if the British Empire chose to focus primarily on having a strong army and felt that having a strong navy was not important.

>>96086337
Smight was the one, thanks anon, i feel silly not trying thingverse.

>playing a lance on lance game over the weekend
>player brings in his OC assault design
>headcap it at 18 hexes with my Hollander II
mfw

>>96086706
What was the assault like, was it a cheese design or somewhat reasonable?

>>96086706
I did that once with a Victor 9K. He called it his "Death's Head Atlas" and brought a 2/5 pilot for it and I headcapped it like turn 3. Funny thing was, it was the one and only time we played with weather effects and we rolled "storm", so my almost entirely missile based force was useless and that one gauss headcap was the only notable thing that I accomplished, and the other two players were able to bully me around quite effectively for the rest of the match.

>>96086948
2/5 big fat assault mech seems like a huge waste of BV unless you’re a gauss-bot parked in the woods for the whole game. If it was a typical atlas loadout I’d expect the thing to just eat 20+ damage every turn over and over as it struggles to get in range and eventually fails one of those PSRs. I think I’d rather go with a 3/4 pilot almost every time.

>>96086381
It's a SPACE SETTING. Not having WarShips would be the equivalent of mechs not having weapons.

>>96086301
Honestly, I think the major powers should be centered around warships because it would bring the focus of the actual Mech combat gameplay back to small mercenary unit skirmishes they way it was supposed to be at the beginning. Even if the logistics of an interstellar civilization and the social structure of weird pseudo-feudal kingdoms and techno-barbarian hordes are different from the modern world It's still a bit absurd to have huge superpowers shooting at each other on actual battlefields all the damn time.

How deep does a minefield have to be to reliably stop a mech's advance?

>>96087021
It's a MECH SETTING. The mechs CAN fight in space, but that's not most battles the players will have.

What are you working on painting, /btg/

>>96087490
Yeah, but that's a desperation move.

>>96087419
A single mine. Mechwarriors REALLY hate mines, because blowing a foot off and then falling on more mines and losing your mech would get you made fun of forever.

>>96086773
Cheese Clantech design. I hate to sound like an ass but he was bragging about how of his clan had this they’d rock the Sphere and then I popped it in the face and we all had a sensible chuckle.

>>96086948
Yeah we got lost the game too but it was worth it for that dice roll.

>>96085739
Those are Bundswehr you ignorant pleb. Specifically the reference shot shown is from the 2010's. Evict that giggling Hitler from your head, he's not paying rent.

Which clan mechs would be likely to make their way into the private hands first during late Clan Invasion and later on? FedCom, DCMS and Comstar got to wallow in salvage, but what could I add to mydudes merc force?

>>96087761
I’m guessing it was some sort of IJJ pulseboat or a 3+ ERPPC heat neutral tarcomp sniper. For clan assaults I figure those are about the two most offensive designs you can come up with.

>GET OUTTA MY WAY I GOTTA SHIT

>>96087880
So the entire faction isn't "not!thirdreich in space" anymore?

>>96088061
He made it clear in the multi-thread troll with the green ones that this is a different set of mechs.

>>96088157
Oh yeah, yeah, like the Flying Circus ones were a different set of mechs. Gotcha

>>96087566
I don't think falling in a hex triggers more mines, does it?

>>96083063
Hatamoto Hotpotato

>>96085732
Yeah if you look at the WIP pics clisely you'll see I tried making part of tge sculpt with these 4, didn't work as I'd hoped though, nothing a morning-after touchup can't fix though.
>>96088188
As anon just said, these are there own thing as the bases being different shows nicely.
The SS are the special forces of the Flying Circus set though, the theme there being "German historical flags" for paint schemes (like the templare, swiss and HRE lances). In fact the SS were me having fun AFTER the Empire flag mechs got called "nazi" so it's butthurt ITT that inspired them.
>>96087880
Any suggestions on a scheme when I do lance 3 for these? the only other pattern I show when searching "modern german tank camo" is that dark grey with big pixel-block splashes of black and lime green.

>>96088338
Do this camo.

>>96087058
And even then those major powers are almost certainly doing skullduggery and other such fuckery on the small scale.

>>96088379
I am looking for something ideally in a grey or navy blue overall, my first thought was just do them pure grey like they came off a production line, but if there is a suitable urban or arctic german armor scheme I might go with it.
Got to be an actual IRL armor paint scheme though, no airforce for this set.

>>96087988
You, you do know that most IS mechs do have onboard chemical toilets, or at least a piss-tube?

>>96088338
>Any suggestions on a scheme when I do lance 3
1980's-90's 2 tone green and black European camo. It looks sweet af. I'll try to find pics later when I'm on my PC.

>>96087536
It's rare because battles in space are rare.

>>96088061
The guy did one (1) SS unit only after two namefags and at least one hysterical wokeist went on a tantrum over his ww1 Deutsches Heer themed unit based on a famous aerial squadron, and started calling him a 'nazi' for having units painted in the scheme of a unit that predates the nazis by over a decade. The SS unit was a joke, perhaps if you had the reading comprehension of a 12 year old you would have realised it when you read the "new swabbian" fluff.
The guys good, the wokeist and bottom tantrum because they are both retarded, stupid, and jealous.

>>96087508
My 3d printed terrain. Now if only the damn humidity would break so I could have another day that's actually painting conditions, I could finish the damn shit. I got Foothills 3 & 4, and Open Terrain 2 before my printer decided it needed some TLC and shit itself.

>>96088639
II look at this and wonder if you couldn't have gotten a hexagonal dowel and cut it into chunks for cheaper than all that PLA.
Don't get me wrong, I love 3D printing, but it seems like once people get a printer /everything/ has to be printed, to hell with traditional crafting methods and damn the prices.

>>96088626
Dude was posting his nazi mechs, his nazi MW5 paint jobs, admitted that the whole reason he did it was because he was a nazi IRL and capped it all off by ranting about how he couldn't wait to hunt down and murder people he didn't like. It was FAR more than just a little bit of harmless trolling.

>>96088665
>nazi MW5
What? I don't recall painting any videogame themes.

>>96088665
No he wasn't. Stop being delusional and falling fir false flags

>>96088626
>The guys good
He's an ok painter, not exactly spectacular.

>>96088657
>II look at this and wonder if you couldn't have gotten a hexagonal dowe
...You can get hexagonal dowes?

>>96088665
>It was FAR more than just a little bit of harmless trolling.
Yeah, he's at least doing this for reactions.

>>96088657
I make my terrain out of cardstock. It works wonders, you just need to put internal supports in (which is pretty easy). It saves time too since you don't even have to paint it to make it look good since you can just print the terrain right on it.

>>96088626
I've already posted the archive link before where nobody says the word nazi at all in the thread his Red Baron stuff was posted. Hell the only reason people joked about "mah nazis" in the HRE lance was because nazianon had his SS mechs in the background. You're both just gaslighting people into thinking everyone was against him from the beginning when, in reality, nobody really cared until he posted the SS mechs.

>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/91752056/#91752622

>>96088657
I mean, I got the exact hill shapes for 3 full maps and 2 more maps worth of miscellaneous terrain pieces for ~30-35$ worth of PLA. No need to fuck around with wood glue or whatever to stick the dowels together, and the biggest hassle was the print time and the printer wear. I'm happy with the 3d printer. It's certainly more reasonable than the headache of trying to print the mechs where I'm constantly trying to pull them out of the support trees without snapping an arm joint or whatever.
I'm not completely sold on the viability of it, but it's been an interesting experiment to say the least, and definitely the best use I've gotten out of the printer so far. Battletech terrain is definitely far more relevant to my interests and use cases than random nicknacks.

>>96088694
*dowel
and yes, probably not at home depot in the bin, but absolutely you can order them from places.

>>96088725
>the thread
Because there was just one and it hadn't been a thing for months.

>>96088832
Yeah, trying to pretend it was just one thread is disingenuous as hell. Nazianon has been shitting up threads for YEARS.

>>96088725
Can you post a picture of your corkboard with printed off posts and red strings?

>>96088845
>YEARS
Plural by the thinnest margin, I think it's only almost been 2 years right now.

>>96088888
Sorry, all those 8's have cowed me into submission and I have torn down the corkboard. You've made me see the light that everybody was always against Nazianon from the start and he's always been fighting an uphill battle for acceptance in btg

>>96088845
Unless he's posting a picture with inflammatory political symbols, which isn't really that common, his posts aren't noticeably out of place or deteriorate the quality of the thread. They're usually just normal posts.
Unlike the manic, banshee or bottom, who regularly post poison.

>>96088910
I don't even think it's plural since he only really started sharing paint jobs in January last year

>>96088925
You joke but oppression of the national socialist minority is a real thing.

>>96088943
I've never seen the nazis bare ass, that's for sure.

>>96088953

>>96088910
We can quibble over the exact duration if you want, but does it really matter that much? Point being I'm sick of his racist ass. Most of the time he just hides it behind a thin veneer and "teehee, my SS mechs are just barely visible in the background of this photo blurred enough so the mods won't notice the swastikas, but everyone who regularly visits these threads knows who it is" and his "oh, I'm just HISTORICAL German posting, nudge nudge wink wink", but every now and then the mask comes off and he goes on a racist rant and gets banned, but he's learned not to do that so much and gets to hide behind the pretense of civility and pretend that he's the one being oppressed when people point out that he supports a literal genocidal ideology.

>>96088977
>dat ass
How can you be sick of seeing something that has never been seen?

>>96088977
I'll have you know that no racism from me has ever resulted in a ban, a couple of my pictures got removed way back, but not even that happens anymore regardless of how much hooked cross is in them.

>>96088967
It's definitely a point in his favor.
I'm not really fond of real life political symbols with no precedent in BT as part of paint jobs, but he's one of the less obnoxious identifiable regulars.

>>96088953
Paradox of tolerance. Fascists will regularly use the rights and freedoms of a civilized and tolerant society to propagate their intolerant views and ultimate take control of and destroy the free and tolerant society.

>>96089021
If this is the truth, this implies the "ideology of tolerance" will always be destroyed by the "ideology of intolerance" if both are allowed to exist in the open and people have the freedom to choose.
What does that say?

>>96089021
Yes as can be readily demonstrated by the fascist mob currently in charge of the western world.
Intolerance itself is not a problem, it's when the subjects of tolerance and intolerance are askew that is a problem, like how sexualization of children, demonization of family values and celebration of all that is immoral are the current norms, that is a problem.

>>96089016
He's less now but he was extremely obnoxious when he first started posting them. I'm fairly sure he was also the asshole guy who was claiming the record sheets hit locations are reversed so his Hunchback stl with the wrong torsos was "correct"

>>96089046
That there are people out there that want to burn the world down around them because it’s easier than going to therapy.

>>96089059
subjective perception of right/left on a record sheet has no impact on the gameplay, and has been said before, various thunderbolt record sheets and models demonstrate that it is unimportant, so long as you aren't switching your perspective mid-game.

>>96089046
It's more that the intolerant side will continue to try and destroy the tolerant side and the tolerant side won't fight back. Eventually they'll figure out how to make it stick.

>>96089081
except there is no such thing as a "tolerant" side here.

>>96089080
If I hit you in the left torso its the left torso on the sheet not the right torso because you confuse the MW5 with the record sheet one

>>96089118
Thunderbolt

>>96089143
>>96089118

Tell me about /your/ guys.

>>96089046
>this implies the "ideology of tolerance" will always be destroyed by the "ideology of intolerance" if both are allowed to exist
Not exactly.
More like ideology of intolerance will always try to usurp society of tolerance, which will either to failure or to the mutual destruction of both ideology of intolerance and current iteration of society of tolerance.
The later will rebuild itself eventually, but only after massive damage to society caused by ideology of intolerance

>>96089287
And how are the wokes in any way tolerant? The moment they have no "intolerant" oponent, they turn on each other, africans, mexicans, asians all infighting, feminists against troons, gays against lesbians, lesbians against each other, etc... the "tolerance" of the woke mob is a myth, whereas the "intolerant" do not devolve to infighting when the subjects of their hate are gone.

>>96089267
My mercs in a current campaign are the Masters of the League. The only people they hate more than everyone else are the FWL and those so-called captains general on the throne. They are probably also a Blakist cell. Their commander was Kira "Palindrome" Marik until she got killed in the second game we played.

>>96086133
Juodas is still active in the /BTG/ discord server, you can ask him for the STL.

>>96089267
The Blazing Avengers. A Lance sized force that has grown to 6 mechs, we're hoping to capture, steal, rent, or otherwise acquire a Union or other larger dropship to carry our new mech surplus. I'm playing Tiffany Blaze, granddaughter of Billy Blaze, the original founder of the force and my favorite pilot from the previous campaign. We founded the unit in the aftermath of the previous campaign to hunt down the Steiner pilot who killed a number of our comrades. We're playing IllClan using the Hinterlands book and the materials that came with the Mercenaries box. I don't think that the SP system is perfect, but I FAR prefer it to the old accountant-tech bullshit where I needed to track every single piece of ammo and slab of armor.

>Tiffany Blaze, CO 4/5, Tactics 1
>Nominally pilots a custom FireJavelin, the family mech, but currently in the command console seat of a Jingau for the initiative bonus. My PC.

>Victor 3/5
>Normally pilots his custom HAG40 Victor, currently driving the Jingau both for BV reasons to keep our scale factor low, but also cuz he's got our best standard gunnary.

>Rain 4/5, Weapon Specialist: LRM 15.
>Former Knight of the Republic, now pilots a Viking that regularly contributes half or more of our total damage output as well as being a third of our BV in any given battle.

>Tomika 4/4
>Another granddaughter of a former campaign pilot, uses the family PHawk with 2 imp heavy LL.

>Justin Li 4/4
>The final descendant of the former campaign pilots, his grandfather was one of the pilots slain by the hated enemy Steiner pilot. Drives an Wolverine that jumps 7.

>Faceless dude whose name I forget. 4/5
>Our first hiring that wasn't a dedicated PC starting or joining the unit, he was nominally hired to pilot the Jingau but is currently kicking his heels on the dropship with the Javelin since I wanted that juicy initiative bonus.

>>96089046
That's why Battletech is a monarchist setting. Monarchism is the only ideology able to resist the allure of fascism and nationalism, by appealing to a liberal strongman who will protect peoples rights.

>>96089459
The tolerant people told me monarchism and fascism are the same thing.

>>96089482
They can be, but a good monarch doesn't do that.
Good Monarchs from history.
>Wilhelm I
>George V
>Alexander III
Bad monarchs from history.
>Wilhelm II
>Elizabeth II
>Nicholas II.

>>96089512
>They can be
No, they can't.
They can be one or the other.

>>96089534
I don't know man, Nicholas II got pretty fascisticy near the end.

>>96089370
Speaking as a "woke leftist" when we're doing the infighting with each other, it's almost always disagreements of the exact verbiage to use in a situation where we all agree that everyone deserves human rights, even the people we dislike and disagree with. When I'm arguing with right wing nutjobs, it's always them starting from a premise that I don't deserve to exist and they're trying to deny me access to lifesaving medication, equal protections under the law, or that I and/or other minorities should be jailed or killed just for existing in a way other than their exact flavor of cis straight white christian males.

beautiful tank family

>>96089541
Nicholas II had a rough life in fairness and was dealing with commie bullshit fueled by post-war devastation.

>>96089571
Yeah and his father was murdered in a grenade attack before he could be properly taught how to rule, we know.

>>96089580
Let's not forget the most important thing, that his coronation had hundreds of people die in a riot caused by a lack of sufficient beer. Motherfucker was THE meme Tsar

>>96089558
> I don't deserve to exist and they're trying to deny me access to lifesaving medication, equal protections under the law
Quit invention strawmen and / or arguing with obvious trolls.
Fucks sake the biggest issue with the whole "equal protection" argument is more about how many minority groups get privileges over the majority making it inherently unequal.

>>96089541
You mean an absolute monarch? Absolutism is something entirely different.

>>96089592
Honestly for all the shit he went through he wasnt that bad a guy.
Not a great ruler, but a decent man still

>>96089597
Absolutism was more a french thing than Russian too. Sure the Tsar help supreme power but due to its size russian regions were left largely autonomous.

>>96089592
This just proves that Russians are genetically disposed to be alcoholics. What a shame.
>>96089613
He was a good person, a good father, but he was unforgivably dumb. Honestly, just like Wilhelm.
I said this ages ago on /his/ but theres a weird parallel between these two. Both their fathers died in a way that made them bitter toward specific groups(Alexander was killed by reformers and anarchists, Frederich was killed when an English doctor convinced him to ignore surgery on his throat cancer). Both weren't taught when they were suppose to have been taught, and thus weren't trained to rule. Both thought they could rule on their own merits, and for a time in the beginning it seemed fine, but they began to lose the plot so to speak.
Its tragically funny.

>>96086301
Star Adders hands wrote that post

>>96089596
https://youtu.be/S80ivPamBoM
Suprememe court literally just killed equal protection for trans people.
It's not special privileges when cis kids can get the exact same drugs, but trans kids are excluded.

>>96089569
The "there's a variant for that" design philosophy.

>>96088775
>*dowel
I'm certainly not one to correct spelling.

>and yes, probably not at home depot in the bin, but absolutely you can order them from places.
Might be easier than getting my Brother-in-Law to print me anything...
What are the dimensions of a Battletech Hex and how high should a single Level be?

>>96088943
>his posts aren't noticeably out of place or deteriorate the quality of the thread
And I'm fine with that, EXCEPT...

>>96088953
>>96089021
>>96089054
It is inviting "Le poor oppressed Aryan" to bitch and prove why he isn't the Ubermensch he wants to be!

>>96089370
>whereas the "intolerant" do not devolve to infighting when the subjects of their hate are gone.
HA, that's a good one Anon!

>>96089686
A mental illness should be treated, not reinforced with mutilation and irreversible, damaging drug use.

I like the Scorpion. They're neat.

>>96089746
HRT IS the treatment. Its clinically proven to help with dysphoria and suicidiality, and the regret rate for transgender surgeries is less than a single percent. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8099405/ The regret rate for surgeries in general is 14%. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28243695/
Speaking from personal experiance, I LOVE what estrogen has done for my body. It's been amazing, and every single day I wake up loving myself instead of hating my existence and wanting to die.
And here's the real kicker: underage kids aren't getting surgery. If you're below 18, normal gender-affirming care procedure is just puberty blockers and social transitioning. If the kid concludes that they're cisgender after all, they can go off the puberty blockers and no harm done. If they affirm that they're trans once they're in their majority, then they can keep transitioning, starting with HRT. The Tennessee law and those like it don't help kids. They force trans kids to go through painful and unnecessary puberty of the wrong gender. The suffering is the only point of it.

>>96089842
>wrong on all counts
Lol, lamo. There are going to be a LOT of used walls and lampposts soon.

I'm staying out of this trans debate. I want to talk about giant stompy robots and vast armies, not transexuals.
Look at this Stingray, ain't it sick?

disregard modern politics, embrace world building.

What makes a good name for a dropship? If i wanted memes I'd call it Unsinkable IV, or Unsinkbar IV, 不沈4, for specific factions.

>>96089842
>And here's the real kicker: underage kids aren't getting surgery
lol

>>96089878
You say you wish to talk about stompy robots, yet post something that is neither stompy nor a robot.
Curious.

>>96089569
Look at all that cannon fodder

>>96089893
They can FIGHT the Stompy Robot - and lose! Especially when the Longpult is in play, which gains a -2 against air targets.

>>96089021
>intolerance
Odd how this shows the National Socialists who were democratically elected and supported vs the Bolshivisks who slaughtered and terrorized their way into power.

>>96089370
The horseshoe theory insists that being called raycist online is equivalent to being abducted and deported to a concentration camp controlled by a foreign potentate, I understand?

>>96089883
>"What happened to Unsinkables 1-3?"
>"Burnt down for the insurance money."

>>96089922
>deported
Yeah, that's the penalty for being a criminal alien...

>>96089883
Iconic and funny preferably with a number, so people will either assume its part of a line or that its the latest version of it. Unsinkable IV? That could mean theres four other Unsinkables, for this is the fourth time they've done it.
If I can get my hands on a dropship, I'm going to call it "Fist to Ass", "Party Dropper", or "Ballcruncher".

>>96089928
Play that old pig prank, name the ships "Unsinkable 1", "2" and "5" and watch the your enemies flip out over a missing ship

>>96089943
My Mule is called Haulin' Ass. I also painted a Union to look like the General Lee.

conservatives should be ignored since they support a literal pedo.

>>96089883
I gave this a bit of thought and my mind went to Sisyphus because drop ship is like a big fuckin’ rock, but then I got to thinking that all the famous prisoners of Tartarus would probably be sick.
>Ixion
>Tantalus
>Sisyphus

And of course, even though he’s not famous for being punished in the underworld
>Icarus

It is right to be intolerant
Intolerant of those who deny the dragon's infinite majesty and clear legitimacy as inheritor of the star league and right to rule over all mankind.

>>96089267
Which one? I have 6 different /your dudes/ factions that I’ve painted up. And there’s likely going to be a 7th and 8th appearing in the near future.

So which did you want to know more about?
> The Solar expats/FedSuns house guard
> The Inner Sphere’s cheapest mercenary company on record
> Blakist puritans
> Clan Unicorn
> Deep Periphery Banana Republic ruled by an eccentric tin pot dictator with delusions of grandeur
> Private army of a Draconis Combine Zaibatsu head who’s gone full Don Quixote.

Because cooking up lore for full factions is more fun than a merc company

>>96089746
Then stop fapping and getting high.

>>96089964
Haulin' Ass, I fucking love that. Its so simple.
My metaphorical K-2 is called the Jackson Pollock, because all it'll leave is a Pollock stain whereever it lands.

>>96089998
Did you break your dick jerking off?

>>96089986
I love that Griffin man, can we get a close up? Also, whats that one on the far right?
Tell me of your Blakist Puritans too. Love Blakists.

>>96089986
very nice canopies.
Requesting Draconis Don Quixote when you have the time

>Was playing Space Engineers last night on some random open server.
>Making my way around, looking at their cities, their towns, bases, etc. Just casually observing.
>Come across a battle in orbit taking place.
>Its a miniature Invader Jumpship vs two UNSC Frigates.
>It takes two MAC rounds to the body and can no longer jump. I don't have text and since I'm in spectator mode, I can zoom into the ship and see the crew frantically try and fight off the frigates with their meager armament.
>An alarm goes off and I see the crew head toward a dropship that was still attached to a docking collar as the whole ship slowly spins and aims toward the planet.
>Once the majority of the crew is on the dropship, it disconnects and begins to fall/blast away as fast as it can.
>One of the frigates dispatches miniature longswords to chase after the Dropship.
>They knock out one of its engines but the rear guns are shredding the fighters to pieces.
>Zoom back up to the Invader because the game suddenly lags, which means a big explosion happened.
>The Frigates had struck the hydrogen tanks that were within armored compartments with their MACs, splitting the ship in two.
>Its flaming wreck begins to fall toward the planet, and the Frigates zoom away to a small space station in the distance.
Space Engineers can be fun, but it can be so cinematic sometimes. I know its /v/ talk but its rare to see anything Battletech related in an open server.

>>96090023
Did you respond to the wrong post?

>>96088694
Fuck off manic

>>96089021
Turn this 180. Make the one crying for acceptance a dangerhair, and then show them rioting and smashing "symbols of oppression" and beating up random White and Asian people and grooming children.
See how well the whole "tolerance is a slippery slope" message is accepted then.

Anyone got a hirez of the fan-made fighter scale pick?

>>96090270
Cool fanfic, virgin

>>96089932
Would've been more impressive if they had not already grabbed citizens and if they weren't specifically picking off people who are in the process of gaining citizenship.

>>96090280
Why are you being so intolerant?

Sometimes its good to be intolerant.

>>96090270
>and beating up random White and Asian people and grooming children
but these are rightwing pasttimes?

>>96090147
Get any screening? Spengies my beloved

>>96088665
>he was a nazi IRL and capped it all off by ranting about how he couldn't wait to hunt down and murder people he didn't like.
I already like him, you don't have to keep selling it. National Socialism is the only viable form of government, and it needs to catch on a lot quicker here in the US.

>>96090419
And now the gaslighting

>>96090430
Screenies* fucking phone posting

>>96089808
They are like little retarded children you give handguns to and then encourage them to run in the direction of your enemy with promises of candy if they return.

>>96089021
I don't see how this is a problem. Life is competition, and intolerance is simply a form of recognition of that competition. The only reason that someone could be against intolerance is if they are guilty of committing the sin of empathy. And I have no tolerance for sinners.

>>96090430
>>96090443
Sadly no, my computer is old enough that I have to turn everything on low if I want SE to run, and taking a screenshot in the middle of a battle like that causes it to pause and hold on that for about two minutes.
From what I was able to gather, that faction was a faction that had been encroaching on their territory on the planet by way of two Jumpships. Each one held four dropships that were to pick a place to land and begin transforming it into a base. The Jumpships have fighters but they're weak and pretty slow. There is an actual Invader class Dropship on the workshop that they seemingly used for a base, because this thing is so large it takes up all the resources in a game world. Theirs was maybe a 1/10th of the size.

>>96090438
your rightoid president is a literal pedo.

>>96089558
>premise that I don't deserve to exist
Depending on which group you're in, you don't. Are you from a race incapable of building and maintaining a modern civilization? Are you from a group that represents a series of genetic mistakes which aren't capable or willing to partake in heterosexual human reproduction? Are you from a group that is mentally ill? Are you from a group that has chosen to believe in a false god, or even no God at all? As long as you aren't you one of those groups, of course you deserve to exist. But I suspect you're in one or more of them. So yes you should be jailed or killed; the people to whom you refer are correct. The problem is not them, the problem is you.

>>96089878
>I want to talk about giant stompy robots and vast armies, not transexuals
Your in the wrong thread. You can fuck off back to the OF if that's what you're after.

>>96090494
I believe I do have screenshots of another battle a couple years ago. It was a small town being defended by three Urbanmechs, outfitted with modded energy weapons. They were being attacked by a warship in low orbit sending down aircraft. The aircraft managed to knock one of the Urbies down but the other two forced the wings attacking them to retreat.
Thats when the warship came in and shot them with its railguns, killing one and missing the other, and since it was so low to the ground it was technically within range of its lasers and missile launchers, and proceeded to get a few of its gunturrets destroyed before it pulled back and lobbed guided missiles at it.

>>96090359
>no they're citizens
No. Stop lying.

>>96090359
>already grabbed citizens
No one who has been arrested or grabbed by ICE is a citizen. If they were taken by ICE, they aren't a citizen by definition.

>>96090527
I'm not American and don't really care pay attention to that continent, bit please do go on.
Actually, do you want me to honestly tell you why I dislike you and yours?

new clg plastic corsair when?

>>96090532
>Are you from a group that represents a series of genetic mistakes which aren't capable or willing to partake in heterosexual human reproduction? Are you from a group that is mentally ill?
So we are perfectly within our rights to jail and/or kill you?

>>96090630
why do you fuck kids, rightoid?

>its another thread derailed by gay american political bullshit

>>96090147
>UNSC ships in Battletech
Those ships would be pure nightmare fuel. Even Frigate MAC's hit with double digit kilotons, and Archer missiles would break the back of a McKenna with a single hit. Longswords are 130 ton fighters whose crusing speed is anywhere between 20-50g's and whose sprint is above 200. It's the Mech equivalent of a Omega being able to chase down aerospace fighters. UNSC VTOL's are also really fucking good.
>Hornet
x2 AC2's and 2 SSRM2 and can piggyback power armor
>Sparrowhawk
2 AC2's and a large pulse laser.
>Vulture
4 AC2's, 2 LRM 10 Artemis and SIX FUCKING ARROW IV'S.
>Condor
BEHOLD I AM DEATH.
10, and I repeat, TEN small pulse lasers. For those not in the know, pulse lasers on aerospace and VTOL's are utterly busted. And to top this monster off it has a MAC cannon. Yes, the MAC cannons that are used on UNSC warships as backups to their spinal mounted ones. This thing can probably throw out anywhere between 50-100 standard damage and that's probably a low ball.

>>96090703
That's every thread on every board. Either cope or leave

>>96090527
>literal pedophile
Odd how Joe had that list for three fucking YEARS and didn't release it to destroy Trump, almost as if he's not on it...

>>96087508
WIP Sunder C I've been working on between other projects.

>>96090765
They're both on it.

>>96090030
> Also, whats that one on the far right?
That would be a Caesar

> Tell me of your Blakist Puritans

Ah the “Bake’s Avenging Angels” regiment. They are the militant branch of a very fanatical Blakist sect with some… puritanical beliefs. So, to summarize:
- they hate all non-Blakist religions
- they hate any Blakist sect that tolerates other religions
- they hate traditional art
- they hate digital art
- they hate AI art
- they hate sculpture
- they hate dancing
- they hate music
- they hate bright colors
- they hate soft fabrics
- they hate any literature that’s not Blakist scripture
- they hate theater
- they hate film
- they hate television
- they hate sports
- they hate games
- they hate memes
- they hate humor
- they hate alcohol
- they hate sex (or at least the enjoyment of sex)
- they hate any food that doesn’t taste like styrofoam
- they hate parties
- and they hate swimming

And like any typical cult, they have an extremely controlling culture, so it’s not only against their beliefs to engage in any of these activities, but it goes against their beliefs to allow YOU to engage in these activities either. It should go without saying, but their leaders are a bunch of preening hypocrites.

Now, this sect has been around for a very long time, maybe even shortly after the founding of the cult of Blake, but in the past, ComStar was able to… kinda-sorta control the Avenging Angels, mostly. But since the Jihad, I don’t think anyone’s holding their leash anymore.

Their mechs can be identified by the gold & silver plating on their mechs (to give them a more angelic appearance).

>>96090765
They're both on it, we're talking about Joe "kids stroke my leg hairs" Biden

What... What just happened? Did I have a stroke?

>>96090877
You did not have a stroke. I think jannies just temporarily locked the thread and hid most of the recent replies because of the level of cleanup required.

>>96090877
Nothing to see here, move along.

>>96090767
God I hate IWM. Metal minis should be banned.

>>96090746
Space Engineers is a bit different. They don't have MAC guns per sey, just rail guns. Rail guns that require so much power and take so long to charge that they often times turn a ship off if power isnt' sufficiently supplied. More over, these Frigates were barely able to fire their MACs without momentarily suffering a half second shut down, from what I observed. None of the amazing cannons or high speed longswords here, they had a max speed of 135kph, just like warships, only difference is they hit that speed much faster. Its an inherent flaw in the game's code.
Now they did have some modded weapons from the workshop there so they were able to enjoy punching holes in the Invader's thin hull, but no Archer pods, they had to use player-guided missiles.
It was fun to watch. The UNSC In Amber Clad would mop the floor with a McKenna.

>>96090888
DESU it needed it

>>96090915
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>96090888
Man I wish we had these Jannies on /co/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIU4oGUwAW8
This is how most battles in Space Engineers go. Would love to see this but with Battletech Warships.

>>96090952
To be fair, they are not usually this attentive. Its nice to see.

>>96088626
>>>96088943
>bottom hates on Nazi-anon
Stop pushing obviously false narratives.

>>96089059
Correct.

>>96089808
Same. I've never managed to get their BV worth out of em, but I still love em regardless.

>>96088639
Just prime it with black paint. Could mix modge podge in if you're really worried.

>>96085224
They're Nazis.

>>96091110
>They're Nazis.
1. fuck off and stop trying to start shit again, the Jannies just cleaned up your mess
2. They are clearly Bundswehr as anyone with the slightest inkling of the German army could tell you

any thoughts on a response force from other factions to this group?

>>96091204
>They are clearly Bundswehr as anyone with the slightest inkling of the German army could tell you
Wrong.

And the only way these threads will stop being derailed about this topic, is when you stop posting your minis forever.

>>96090056
> Requesting Draconis Don Quixote when you have the time

The Newest inclusion to the roster: their leader is the head of a powerful Industrial Zaibatsu that… was an avid reader of old Japanese literature and history (especially pertaining to samurai and Shogun) and in his later years, may have become a bit eccentric. Arming is corporate security with various mechs and CV (all manufactured in-house, of course) and proclaimed himself a Warlord while piloting a Hatamoto-chi of his own (at least 2 corporations he owns has defense contracts to produce them for the DCMS) and running around the Combine, battling its enemies and basically acting like an actual DCMS warlord. Of course existing outside of the DCMS command structure (because let’s not forget this man is a civilian with too much money and free time), is a problem and does result in occasional dust-ups with the actual DCMS, though it’s much rarer than one might think. Despite being functionally a mercenary group in the eyes of some, he insists that his loyalty to the Coordinator is absolute and will follow the commands of Kurita to his death. Though the idea that anyone from House Kurita is in contact with this eccentric trillionaire is laughable, or possibly disgusting as it might imply some sicko is impersonating the Coordinator to take advantage of the man’s delicate mental state for their own ends. Still, it’s rather unusual that the DCMS isn’t trying harder to reign the man in, or how frequently he does actually show up when reinforcements are needed… well a broken clock is right at least twice a day, right?

>>96091311
I know how to recreate all these colors except the blue, is it a camera effect or what did you use and how

>>96091389
Looks like he just did a normal blue jewel with a blue ink wash and a gloss coat over the top.

>>96091417
>gloss coat
That gotta be it, i never fucked with that stuff

>>96091311
The ambiguity in the relationship between the CEO and House Kurita is a nice touch.

Imagine a DCMS butter bar sneering about a rich madman until he learns his own CO got saved by a well-timed arrival.

>>96091284
No, it'll be when you grow the fuck up and stop bitching about how anon paints his toys.

>>96091284
1. right
2. im not him. Stop letting that giggling hitler live rent free in your head

>>96091478
Right, because no one ever bitches when people paint their minis in the trans flag or whatever.

>>96091493
Correct.

>>96091493
How about this, the reason I hate you.
You and yours couldnt let something good be. We where happy, noone gave a shit. Then your rainbow dyed freaks came thundering in and demanded attention and took it upon yourself to drive out "le nazis" - IE anyone whom didnt want everything changed. I hate you not because of what you are but because of what you do to me and the things I enjoy. If you would just leave well enough alone I genuinely would not care about you at all. If you want acceptance here all you have to do is to stop being a culture war pushing, subversive, freak. Blend in, have a laugh, ignore the posts you dont like, be a normal person, but most of all;
>Leave you goddamn politics and morale crusade at the fucking door

>>96091493
>no one ever bitches when people paint their minis in the trans flag or whatever.
Correct. That simply doesn't happen. Trans people aren't victims here. We are.

I like the miku paint scheme

>>96091607
Dont, now I want to do a mikumiku mech

>>96091211
I feel like I may be misunderstanding the question, so I'll answer it both ways: Regarding using these mechs as cavalry for another faction:

The Gunsmith and Legionnaire are very strongly Davion coded with the Hellspawn and Enforcer being a little more broadly distributed. The specific mix in anything other than a House command or closely affiliated Mercs would be a bit silly.

Regarding mechs that might be sent to deal with this group:

The Enforcer 5D is really the limiting factor in speed; so we're looking at any lineup that can chase or intercept a 5/8/5. Personally my merc forces are most similar to Lyrans, so I can only say what they might field around Jihad. A Nightsky and an Uziel would be a solid backbone both taking advantage of XLs being able to keep up. Speaking of keeping up, Steiner love of heavy armor suggests that getting a fatty in there might be worth pursuing, so specifically a Thunderbolt 17S may be ideal. Nominally it wouldn't be able to chase, but TSM means that if it intentionally keeps the seat warm it should be able to keep pace. I'm not sure what else to round out this group, but some more fast-food beef might make some sense.

>>96091211
Kurita response force is 4x Grand Dragons.

>>96090915
Why

>>96086706
Don't post Taurians, please, I can't stand them.

>>96091389
Pretty much a dark blue base, then paint one corner in blue, then add a light blue highlight to the same corner, add an ever-so-slightly-off-white dot in the opposite corner, then once dry add a high-gloss varnish to the surface to make it look even more shiny and glass-like.

>>96091417
No ink wash was used. I actually tend not to use washes if I can help it (their messy and slow everything down because they need more time to dry)

>>96091629
Pick a size

>>96091847
Good blending, then. I've gotten too lazy to do more than 3 shades. The wash gives you so much more gradient.

Urban battle starting up.

>>96091907
Being actively bombarded by a Long Tom on the other board.

>>96091907
From the thumbnail I thought the trees were mechs and I was going to comment on what a clusterfuck it was to have that many mechs on that small a map.

>>96091907
The player with a mercury is a faggot cuck.

>>96089267
Brimstone Outcaste's.
Leader is a washed out Ghost Bear Elemental who had a fanatical snap and completely abandoned clan ways. Fled the invasion corridor on the first dropship available which turned out to be a trap. Got captured by pirates on their hidden asteroid base called 'Brimstone' and forced to fight in their bloodsport arena (because he's an elemental obv) and after about eight months of fighting managed to organize a revolution that crumped the pirates and freed the slaves. This turned the slaves into free people who were quite good engineers (from living on the asteroid and.. y'know, not dying.) and created a cult of personality that he's kinda embarrassed about. Sons are typically recruited into the company as Mechwarriors, Vic pilots and infantry, Daughters are tech staff. Pirates had four mechs and thus the start of the merc company.
Used as follow on forces for security and pirate bashing in the wake of Operation Bulldog, the Outcaste's are defined by being combat engineering regiment that refuses to use any clan mechs and has a preference for Lasers, Autocannons and Flamers.

I've currently got a Company painted up, and one of these days I'll get around to sorting out the rest of the engineering company (vehicles) and whenever my fucking infantry is finally sent to me here in Aus.

>>96090863
So what the fuck do they expect everyone to do all day?

World's bravest Hussar just dodged two AC20 shells at close range

>>96091607
>not a zaku
Total and complete failure on a baffling level =/

>>96089267
Bubba's Extermination and Hazop LLC
>Merc band originally started off as a mega fauna Extermination company
>Found that they can pad out their jobs by doing mercenary work
>Rove the stars, killing all sorts of things.
>Drive local clanners fucking apeshit because of their focus on reliable ass technology over finicky bullshit

>>96092073
Meanwhile the Artillery Ambush has turned into a scrum already

>>96091916
That's pretty impressive, artillery from the other side of the planet correctly calculating the orbit there shots will have to take.

>>96092092
Might be a very small planetoid

>>96092099
At a certain point that increases the difficulty, less gravity means less curvature for the shot, small enough and you might need a moon to shoot around to make it work.

>>96091666
unholy digits.
I'm still new to battletech and picked up the cavalry box because I liked the legionnaire from clicky-tech. Having got the box, I wanted to build a rival foece to play against and was wondering what each faction's lineup for a cavalry (or counter-cavalry) lance would look like.

>>96091680
most honorable selection

>>96092109
Or just use fewer bags of powder.

>>96091863
Just like in life, I'm taking the L.

A Kuritan Atlas kicked a Centurion so hard it exploded. Jammed its leg up into its torso and hit the ammo.

>>96091629
>>96091863
Is "LL" Extra Large or what?

>>96092073
>World's bravest Hussar just dodged two AC20 shells at close range
He is a leaf on the wind!

>>96092109
>At a certain point that increases the difficulty, less gravity means less curvature for the shot, small enough and you might need a moon to shoot around to make it work.
But that transit would take WEEKS!

>>96092073
It's not like having more armor would have helped him against an AC/20 anyway.

>>96089667
Why Star Adder? They had a decent navy run by Snow Raven abtakha.

Guy who usually ignores tactics is in the yellow and white lance and he's actually playing well and keeping his lance concentrated. With a Thunderbolt from his teammate for support

>>96092282
Meanwhile on the artillery board, the Davions have lost their Crusader to an ammo explosion as well as their Centurion, leaving them with only a Titan and a Hermes II. Kuritans have probably won the sideshow.

>>96092303
(I hate phoneposting)

>>96092166
At a low enough gravity your shots will have a basically flat trajectory, less powder would mean less speed, not less curvature, on a small enough planetoid you couldn't fire over the horizon, your shots would just go off into space.

>>96092341
Nope. You can always adjust the initial kick down low enough for a parabolic trajectory, even on bodies with gravity we'd consider insignificant

>>96089267
Merc company merged with a nobleman and some of his house mechwarriors. Mercs company was failing, noblebrats eccentric and wealthy uncle wanted a legacy and bought up their debt with the stipulation that his nephew and co join. Company was renamed much to the chargin of the owner.
Nobleman is a little hotshot running running in the family's highlander.
Og owner has an axman.
They dont hate eachother but for his families blood sweat and tears building the company he now has to babysit some lordling who treats this like a game and not war. Worst part is, the kids not half bad in the mech. At least he gets invited to fancy parties.

>>96092341
If the gravity is low enough that ballistics aren’t a factor anymore then the “planet” you’re fighting over is likely too small to even maintain an atmosphere of any significance. Also, if we are bordering on microgravity, such as is being described, then it might be best to avoid kinetic weapons (like ACs, Gauss, MGs, etc…) altogether. Without enough gravity to create friction and resistances, the Newtonian physics at play are going to become much more problematic. Might be best to just fall back on using missile and energy weapons.

>>96092371
The fact that on a planetary scale a projectile will eventually return to its body of origin after all of its velocity is consumed by gravitational pull over possibly thousands of years is not useful on the scale of warfare.

Any explosively fired projectile not hilariously overspecialized to a specific gravitational environment will have a minimum gravity under which the muzzle velocity will exceed escape velocity and there will be no functional parabolic arc on a human timescale. At that point you might as well throw the shell, or drop it on them, or just use a guided missile.

Atmosphere would be a factor, but gravities too low for functional ballistic artillery are also strongly likely to have atmospheres too sparse to meaningfully slow a projectile except in a hilariously tight orbit over a great many revolutions.

Kuritan Marauder just fell over and blacked out on snake eyes in the last round

>>96092221
>Jammed its leg up into its torso and hit the ammo.
"Imma gonna put my foot so far up your arse!"

>>96092407
>Also, if we are bordering on microgravity, such as is being described, then it might be best to avoid kinetic weapons (like ACs, Gauss, MGs, etc…) altogether. Without enough gravity to create friction and resistances, the Newtonian physics at play are going to become much more problematic.
>Not using your Recoil to perform maneuvers
What kind of Spessman are you?!

>>96092073
He shimmied around and made sure to dance around the cannon shells.

>>96091863
M or L

>>96092389
Hey, thats pretty cool anon. I dig it.

>>96092389
I like this story anon. Do you ever plan on writing more down? I sense a tragic irony in the making.

>>96091311
I just realized, if his regiment is manned entirely by corporate security from his various holdings, then could you imagine what it would be like for them?

They just went, possibly overnight, from security, glorified mall-cops really, to mech pilots and frontline soldiers, because their boss’s, boss’s, boss’s, boss wants to play “Hero of the Combine”. If nothing else, the mental whiplash has to be a bitch.

>>96092547
I originally had two /myguys/ but decided why not just merge them into a single company? The story fell together nicely. I have to thank the thread here for helping me when I was creating a backstory and asking questions so things make sense in universe. Sure you can do anything for a story, but its nice when it all fits together. I'm glad someone liked it.

The noble brat eventually learns his lesson and maybe gets a bit more serious. In a megamek game he took a direct hit to the cockpit cold clocking him and was only saved via the armored cowl soaking damage.

He also beat 3 Stalkers in a fight by chain crushing their cockpits when they closed in. Wasn't much mech left after that but he won. It was vs Princess but still was really cool.

>>96092430
> What kind of Spessman are you?!
The kind that prioritizes practicality over panache, obviously.

>>96091863
I'd prefer to be L as long as it makes me a fully functional female, but I'd settle for being S, otherwise. Peak male femme aesthetic.

>>96092579
Nothing written down but I should, I have the rest of the mech warriors to flesh out but I have some ideas.
One of the mech warrior knights with him is an absolute ice queen and has her hands full keeping him out of trouble, she trains relentlessly and pilots a flashman (perks of being a knight of a rich Lyran family). She's not nobility but perhaps there some chemistry with her charge. They keep a lid on it as it wouldn't be "proper".

There's a bit of a problem for the OG owner of the company. See, when the brats uncle is essentially holding a gilded noose around your neck it would be very unwise to give the kid a mission where he might be killed. So it often falls to his lance to do the heavy lifting while the lordlings lance does "easier" contracts. This has done nothing to temper the idea that he is the tightest shit in the brats mind.

Considering the company dropship being a triumph configured to carry mechs, vehicles, and a platoon of infantry and maybe some BA. That or I'll go with one if the larger spheroid.
Mechs is fun.

>>96092712
Nothing would say "Look ma, I'm a real mercenary!" quite like a spoiled Lyran noble using his parents vast funds to purchase a Triumph, to be a "proper" mercenary outfit.
you think on one of those easier missions, the kid might actually find some trouble that leaves him scared?

>>96092622
>The kind that prioritizes practicality over panache, obviously.
Unrobust graytider with no Fire Extinguish right here.

>>96092430
>What kind of Spessman are you?!
The vengeful botanist with a PAL and a few robotic limbs.
>>96092903
Want some lemons?

>>96092938
I'll politely pass...

>>96092978
>Ligger.
Sorry man, no beast races in my hydroponics. I'll happily grind them into mulch though. Those scales are a fine source of calcium.

>>96092815
>scared
Anon, he is the favored nephew of a rich uncle with vast wealth, is the product of the finest schools, finishing, breeding, upbringing, and had the finest instructors money could buy to tech him how to pilot his mech. He's hopelessly charming to boot despite his demeanor, much to the irritation of those who want to hate him.

Scared? Of what? He commands the mighty family highlander and welcomes the *challenge of his enemies. He wades, FEARLESSLY, into packs of foes, whom he cuts down
LIKE
SO
MUCH
WHEAT
His only saving grace is that he ascribes to "noblesse oblige" (mostly). He's not "bad". Just innocently ignorant and full of the piss and vinegar that youth, noble upbringing, and a 90 ton assault mech can give you.
Eventually Intel is going to be wrong and he's going to run into a pilot with similar tonnage, vast skill, nothing left to lose, or the hopeless combination of all three and find his mettle well and truly tested.

*ill equipped pirates and other low danger contracts

>>96092998
I was thinking more of "Mysterious horrors unlike anything hes ever seen before" i.e. Blakists running locals strapped filled with plague infused bombs that if they get near him will give him Shitting-Vomitting Super Diarrhea the likes of which has never and must never be seen because they will get into his cockpit and they will infect on contact.
Y'know.
The sort of thing he'd never expect.
Either that or a pirate crashes his Dropship into his lance.

>>96092993
>I'll happily grind them into mulch though.
See, this is why you don't trust botanist...

>>96092998
>Eventually Intel is going to be wrong and he's going to run into a pilot with similar tonnage, vast skill, nothing left to lose, or the hopeless combination of all three and find his mettle well and truly tested.
You said he ran through three Stalkers, I don't know if anything short of Clanners is going to phase him.

>>96089986
My lance got ambushed and effectively destroyed so Im running the militia allies helping out until this contract is done and we can figure out what to do about actual replacements. Been doing pretty well with what little I got.

>>96093027
Oh rite. Yeah all that too. The intructors didnt mention the demon shitting plague bombs.

>>96093046
>The latest in Blakist technology!
>"The Taco Bell".
>A 5 ton bomb that has a radius of 10 hexes in all directions, leaving a cloud in the air that will last until blown away or burnted away.
>Mechs without proper enviromental sealing must making a piloting check. If the check fails, the pilot becomes incapacitated for the rest of the round and take a hit.
>Unless evacuated, the pilot will take one hit every other round after being infected.
>Because of the size of the bomb, mechs carrying it make a piloting check when advancing more than three hexes. On failure, the mech falls over.
>The bomb is on the outside of the mech: If struck, roll for critical check. if critical, the bomb detonates early and releases its payload.
>If struck, but not critical, the payload is destroyed but does not go off, sparing the mech.

>>96092998
Thinking out loud, it's kind of funny how much of battletechs real world balance is based around exactly how much money you put into your company. Like damn rich kids with assault mechs and dedicated training have hands. It's probably one of the worst settings for fighting uphill in, if you don't have exorbitant funds you're straight up not going to have access to the same powerlevel or even the same kinds of transportation or battlefield awareness. It's entirely possible to be priced out of resistance.
The closest you can get to randomly evening the odds is finding a cache of lostech trying to be the equivalent of finding a magical sword in a cave.

>>96093253
>It's entirely possible to be priced out of resistance.
If my father's alcoholism taught me anything, it's that country folk make do.
In rehab all the city kids were in for Cocaine, while the farm kids cooked Meth.
If all I have is a shovel, I WILL dig your multi-million C-bill Warmachine's grave with it!

>>96093314
>, it's that country folk make do.

Confirmation bias.

Country folk make do...or they do without. All the hicks in rehab are there for meth, but there's also probably some number of kids who never got to meth, instead sticking to huffing diesel or whatever.

>>96093363
>but there's also probably some number of kids who never got to meth, instead sticking to huffing diesel or whatever.
I mean that's usually Beer or Tobacco, possibly Weed if they know what they're doing.

>>96092221
bat reps make me happy, thanks for posting.

Also nothing makes me giggle more than kicking so hard you pop a bin. Part of this game is the imaging things and the idea of a robot foot to the balls so hard you just blowup is golden.

>>96093446
Welcome

The other game ended in a narrow Kuritan victory. The two sides were tied on mechs destroyed, but the Kuritans killed more pilots. This means the Davions will be unable to use pilots with any skills better than 4 in the finale. But they won 2/3 battles so far, so the Davions will have the numbers advantage in the finale and a DropShip for fire support.

>>96093039
was meant for
>>96089267

>>96089267
A used aircar salesman in the Outworlds Alliance turned Merc/Pirate, he goes door to door selling security services that area really just "protection" from his own guys. His unit was a bunch of pirates that had hijacked a dropship he was on and he gave them a hell of a sales pitch to earn more steady cash.

What's the best way to transport IS BA without access to omnis? I know you can transport magnetics, but what about for those without magnets?

>>96089267
A used aircar salesman in the Outworlds Alliance turned Merc/Pirate, he goes door to door selling security services that area really just "protection" from his own guys. His unit was a bunch of pirates that had hijacked a dropship he was on and he gave them a hell of a sales pitch to earn more steady cash.

Pic is his ride

>>96093595
Vehicles. The Maxim hovertank and the Karnov VTOL are reliable.

>>96093602
This is is the mini I frankenmech'd together. Aside from the big hatchet arm and AC10 he has an entire firestarter forearm stuck to his right arm.

Its an old pic because I went and added more details to it and fucked it up so now it sits out of sight until I strip it and start over.

>>96093604
Good point about Maxims, everyone's bound to have at least 2.

I got that Thang-Ta on me

>>96093613
It's awful, I mean that as I love it! Such a sin, something old heads like myself would just love.

>>96093604
Maxims are my go to for BA.

>>96093494
Well that will be spicy, Glory to the Dragon.

Sorry replying backwards, I'm tired and just got a new PC setting things up takes so much work AKA vodka. I'm just hyped I don't game but finally will be able to play mw5 clans.

>>96092998
It’s true, rich brat can’t really be scared straight if he doesn’t know when he’s in actual danger.

>>96093545
That DOES make more sense

Weird ass old question, few years ago I was playing a campaign, (intro tech era) and the Lyrans took a Dragon.

Put a LL on it and a hatchet. Someone made the record sheet and some other kind anon took that dragon kicking enforcer head in but had the arms modded and a pickle helm. It was hilarious.

Anyone have it?

>>96093724
It's on the booru

>>96093777
sick trips!! also thanks so much wow this was like 5 years ago.

>>96093641
>finally will be able to play mw5 clans
You know, despite buying it because of my own new PC, I've yet to actual play it.

>>96094205
I played 20 hours of it, but fell off. Video games just don't hold me anymore.

>>96094218
Depends on the game play loop for me, and even that seems to vary seasonally.

In robot news, I've picked up some knock off Diaclone and am now addicted.

>>96091916
More like a longtime in fucking Australia

>>96094359
Yeah, I don't know why my photos got flipped. That's a new one.

BattleTech is a refuge. If it goes the way of (for example) D&D, I fear all that will be left is Rifts.

>>96094490
>needing a refuge
Sounds like a you problem. Battletech is a game I play because I enjoy it, not because I'm scared.

>>96094366
Your phone was .2 degrees inverse from vertical and flipped itself, but thanks to how the screen controls are mapped its not actually obvious. It still flips the image to show you it the right way up, but without metadata to say that it's at 180 degrees to vertical.

>>96094490
Tell me about it man. I just want to play cool mech games and have a laugh with the lads. I'm honestly sick of the rainbow warriors trying to annex every little thing that becomes popular, and dragging their culture war crap into it. Just let well enough be.

>>96094576
It's too late. The rising tide of darkness will smother all that is good. You should do what needs to be done and take bold action to ensure you do not live to see the horror that is to come.

Or you could get over losing the culture war thirty years ago now. One or the other.

>96094576
>96094590
>samefagging this much at 3:30 AM because you're scared
come on man

>>96094490
Did your X card get taken away or something?

>>96094576
>I just want to play cool mech games and have a laugh with the lads
Too late. It's already political. Your only choices left are whether to leave the fandom, have a giant internet tantrum, or kill yourself over it. Or all of the above, I suppose. So sorry.

>>96094647
And he already chose giant internet tantrum, so that settles that.

>>96094576
as an example, I have noticed that Hasbro brand managers are building a sense of faux nostalgia around the D&D cartoon from the 80s being some kind of touchstone of authenticity despite in fact being a failure entirely forgotten by the mid 90s
they have deployed references to it in their lifestyle brand merchandise, the covers of the latest edition books, even the MCU-esque movie
this would be like telling people that the BattleTech cartoon is emblematic of the game and why people like it
not that I haven’t seen people take it upon themselves to conjure exactly that same faux nostalgia — but at least it’s not Topps or CGL doing that for now
I’m struggling to come up with hypothetical “revisions” and “rebrandings” to BT that would compare to what’s happened with stuff like D&D: I guess one example could be erasing the term “Clans” from BT because people of Reddit get worked up about the white supremacy/KKK

96094535
96094594
96094630
96094647
96094660
that’s enough 4chan for one day, bottom

>>96094688
Bottom went to bed five hours ago.

>>96094647
>It’s already political.
True, BT is fundamentally political — in that it is dystopic. It’s core conceit is the notion that humanity will always choose war over peace. At the heart of BattleTech is the principle that no amount of technological (including ideological) “progress” or idealism can overcome what the setting supposes is the inherent human desire for violent mayhem.

>>96094733
Also because they put women in power from day one. Battletech was always leftist nonsense.

>>96094733
I like how this is expressed in the ideal war book. You need a war every other generation or the populus gets restless

>>96094737

>>96094594
He aint me, I posted >>96094576 at 10:30 am my time.

>>96094647
No its not. Its a fun space opera/real robot setting. Theres a horde of terminally online internet screamer bad actors trying to make it political and cram their dogmatic ideology into it thats trying to make it political, and theres a counter response rising thats rapidly becoming more and more extreme because they've seen what the rainbow cult does to other things it infests and dont want that.
The game is not political, its the culture war tards trying to drag modern politics in that are making it so.

>>96094660
>Saying you dont want me and my masses of bad actors and political shills swarming into the thing you love and irrecoverably changing it, effectively destroying it, is an internet tantrum
Alternate take: The world is getting sick of you and your kind, and your terrified that its manifesting more and more.

>>96094803
It's literally both sides trying to irrecoverably change it though

>>96094837
But my side is the right one, so that justifies everything we are doing.

>>96094856
If making shitty AUs and circlejerking in a small group is how you prove you're right then at least you retards are self-containing yourselves

>>96094837
nta but I’m not sure what “both sides” refers to
on one hand we have a group of people who thinks orcs in D&D are a product and extension of racism against black people in real life
we do not have, on the other hand, anyone who seriously wants orcs to literally be an allegory for white supremacist ideology
there is no “other side”
unless you’re referring to people who understand that orcs are imaginary??
with BattleTech, there really isn’t anything similar yet, thank goodness

>>96094865
One side wants the sociopolitical setting to be progressive and have contemporary representation; the other wants the sociopolitical setting and representation to remain entrenched in a 1980s mindset

>>96094884
>the other wants the sociopolitical setting and representation to remain entrenched in a 1980s mindset
so to remain … BattleTech?
sounds like this “other side” consists of BattleTech fans

don’t get me wrong guys I love battletech I just think everything about it needs to be changed

>>96094898
It would remain Battletech in either case. Nobody is going to call the Fluff Police on you if you ignore lore past a certain point. Case in point are the 3025 grogs and the Forever '67 players.

>>96094884
I just woke up, but it sounds like you're saying one group wants battletech to be as it always has been, and the other group doesn't like how it is and wants it to be different?

>>96094884
>One side wants the sociopolitical setting to be progressive and have contemporary representation
What the fuck does this mean

>>96094923

Post games.

>>96094923
The earliest lore swears up and down that the vast majority of humanity has shed its more primitive prejudices in favor of largely rational grudges against national enemies.

The early writers are largely too hack to properly stick to this, and so it comes as a great shock to the dumbest, least literate fans when more modern writers casually depict exotic LGBT spectrum stuff.

>>96094956
The difference is that stuff was once foreign and exotic, and scifi writers would ask "hmmm, what if there was some crazy, fucked up culture that had people that were neither man... nor woman?!?". Now we actually have to put up with that shit and it's suddenly lost its mystery and whimsy. Turns out they're mostly really annoying.

What size magnets do you guys use for magnetizing mechs?

>>96094956
I don’t really care about whether there are gay or trans characters, that’s fine. What I object to (not that it is happening yet) is depicting Current Year social media trends with a thin BattleTech veneer. like you say, those prejudices don’t exist in the setting so there’s no struggle to be gay or trans, right? In other words, it’s a non issue. I have no problem with fan fiction writers doing whatever they please considering it’s just fan fiction.

>>96095006
>like you say, those prejudices don’t exist in the setting so there’s no struggle to be gay or trans, right?
Except in the Magistracy

>>96095003
I didn’t; even know anyone did this.

>>96095012
It seems like a lot of effort for something so tiny.

>>96095009
I think in the Magistracy, the struggle is to be a man

>>96095006
It's a big universe and it's not star trek. The Kuritans can still be sexist even if everyone else thinks they are freaks for it, and whats her face the black merchant can still face prejudice over her skin tone in Malvina Hazen's Falcons, because those people are complete degenerates even by clan standards.

Can't we argue over something else for once? Like whether C3 is worth the tax, and what the optimal portion of your force being tied into the network is. What c3 mechs have you used before?

>>96095012
>>96095017
I want to make them torso twist and arm flip.

>>96095027
So which is it? There are primitive prejudices or there aren’t?
I’d also object to the characterization of “grudges against national enemies” as “rational”?
This is not even true from an in-setting perspective, where there is this constant tension between unification and tribalism in human nature.
In BattleTech, we always have these idealists dreaming of some utopian society where everyone coexists in harmony (under that idealist’s rule by the way) and it always falls apart because, again, the core conceit of the setting is people will never stop fighting each other.
The tribalism is just a means to fight each other.
Kerensky found this out both on the way out of the Inner Sphere and again in the Pentagon Worlds, for example. And as for the Clans, this new society was barely even founded before the same thing happened.

>>96094909
>>96094909
100% agree. That's why Alpha Strike exists. Battletech can finally be good if you just change everything about it.

>>96095047
The Naginata is the best C3 master mech available in the 3050s.

>>96095047
>Can't we argue over something else for once?
No. People I don't like still infest this game, and I want them gone. We can bitch about mechanics once the fan base has been purged of undesirables.

>>96095115
You should purge them yourself instead of bitching at us to do it. None of us actually care and we're not gonna start.

>>96095105
Alpha Strike is fun and doesn’t change anything about the BattleTech setting and also doesn’t replace CBT

>>96095120
>also doesn’t replace CBT
Wrong. We're the future of this franchise and Alpha Strike is 100% going to replace CBT eventually. Just look at the con events that get run at places like Gencon. 5 years ago there were barely any AS events. This year there's more AS than CBT. We're winning, and we'll keep winning as grogs and boomers die off.

>>96095139
You’re barking up the wrong tree pal I like CBT and AS

>>96095115
Are the people in the room with you right now?

>>96095158
There's leftists in this thread yes. That's close enough.

>>96095175
And how are they affecting your game, anon?

>>96095203
He can't play if he's too busy seething about leftists that fox news told him to be angry about, clearly.

>>96095211
What a shame

>>96095158
I'm tradcath rightoid wifepilled

>>96095257
Can confirm.

shoo shoo politicals.

>>96094884
So, in other words:
>One side wants the game and setting to stay as it is, to be enjoyed for what it is, and be itself
>The other side wants to forcibly insert modern real life politics and social movements that have no bearing on the setting as a whole, and fundamentally change and politicise it to make it match THEIR world view, and drive out anyone who disagrees
Gee, I wonder why people have such a dim view on the rainbow cult?

>>96094923
TL;DR, make one side wants to insert woke ideology into Battletech and make it the forefront of the setting, regardless of whether it tracks with the setting or not.

Anyway, have horny art. Wish I had a game to share, but thanks to lazy cunt cuting her hours my work day now finishes roughly around the same time club nights start, so me getting in in time for a game is rare. Is it justified if you kill someone for robbing you of your hobby time?

>>96095478
You'd have to be retarded not to see that both sides want the game to only match their own world view and dive out anyone who disagrees

>>96095509
Not really, im on the side that wants it to remain unchanged. No modern politics, none of the culture war crap. Just leave well enough alone. Why does this offend the leftivists so much?

>>96095524
Battletech has women in positions of power and frontline military service and did since day 1. That's modern leftoid nonsense and it needs to be eliminated.

>>96095524
Which means you're on neither side then

Zeus, Thug or Battlemaster for a company command mech (mercenary)?

>>96095577
Battlemaster for the command, unless the merc is ex-Lyran service in which case Zeus. Thug for his intimidating subordinate.

i've been thinking about getting into battletech after messing around with mechwarrior at a friends but im not really sure where to start i see theres boxes for AGOAC and Alpha Strike but know whats the best to pic or whats easier to get into

>>96095600
A Game Of Armored Combat is the starter set. Get that first, then get other stuff once you've mastered that. It has eight minis (enough for two full size forces), maps, and a rule pamphlet that will carry you through your first dozen games or so.

>>96095577
The Beamer is a classic. Thugs are rare, though the Zeus could also do.

>>96095612
thanks i'll look into it, which rule set is easier to get into? i think i heard someone say classic takes longer but it a lot more in depth while alpha strike tends to be a lot faster i dont know if it's simpler or not but i think i heard it was

>>96095598
I was thinking FWL-based mercenary company with lots of Lyran salvage, or vice versa. But I can't decide whether I want light lance to be mostly locusts or commandos.
Although, actually, one javelin, 2 commandos and Phoenix Hawk all match speed profiles, so maybe Lyran is the way to go.

is there a record sheet for the Wolverine 6Kh?

>>96095805
That's one of the force manual ones yeah? The CGL Battletech downloads webpage has a "coming soon" stamp for sheets for both books

>>96095805
model has it, but site thinks the link is spam no matter how I format it.

>>96095630
Classic is the best. Its simulationist level, and is where you get all the classic "Battletech moments" such as a random AC2 round blowing a Thuds Right Arm off on Turn 1, or a stray round clipping your Mechs cockpit and prompting the pilot to spend the rest of the game snoozing. It takes a bit of learning but once you have the it down it plays fast, and is easy and fun.
Alpha Strike is, well, it extrapolates everything on the mech to 3 damage values at 3 range bands, and 2 sets of pips, one representing armour, the other internal structure. Heat isnt a thing, crits technically exist but might as well not as as soon as armour is popped a unit is basically 2 peer shots from dead anyway, and its honestly a bit of a mess.

>>96095836
erm. missed an H. model can derate sheet how you need it as a pdf.

>>96095845
thanks ill see about picking up a classic box when i can

>>96095825
Cool ty, guess that means it will include the others from berserker lance's as well

>>96095858
this will work as well, cheers

>>96095862
If your after models, get the alpha strike box at a later date as it is a good deal for the minis you get. Or, just own a 3d printer or have a friend willing to prooooont for you.

>>96095873
yeah i plan on getting the as box down the line since it has a mad cat and i think they look cool as fuck

>>96095845
The way to think about AS is that each mech is equivalent to a single component of a mech in CBT. It's specifically made for larger scale games and if you're not playing with a company++ you're doing it wrong.

(I still don't like AS)

What's the best combo for C3 weapons? LRMs because they'll almost always be in range? Or extending the range of short ranged weapons on slow platforms?

>>96096186
MRM's. And pretty much any longer ranged weapon, you can hang back at your opponents Medium or Long range brackets and be hitting with your Short range bracket.

>>96096186
I would say longer ranged weapons get better benefits but depends what you are facing.
Since ECM can disrupt C3 you don't tend to get really good returns on short ranged weapons but if the enemy doesn't have ECM then a C3 bum rush can be quite hilarious. AC/20 for example firing like its short range at 9 hexes out can be a nasty surprise.

>>96096281
>>96096320
Does c3 have a maximum range? Like could you tie in a mech with an artillery piece?

>>96096361
I like what you are thinking. C3 has a range to basically the same playing area so same map essentially. C3 Master does act as a TAG so you could use it to call offmap artillery.

>>96096384
Should add that in regards to range, technically C3 has infinite range but only works for units playing on the same map if that makes sense?

>>96095577
>>96095641
I think I've mostly figured the layout of the company out, for ~3050 era Lyran mercs:
>Heavy Lance:
-Zeus 6A / Battlemaster 1G
-Warhammer 6R
-Thunderbolt 6S
-Rifleman 3N
>Medium lance:
-Griffin 1N
-Hatchetman 3F
- Dunno. Marik salvage like Hermes 2? Whitworth? Dervish?
>Light Lance:
-Commando 3A
-Commando 3A
-Javelin 10A or 10N
-Phoenix Hawk
Thoughts? Will probably add 2 more clantech/is omnimechs later on for lulz.

>>96096400
Yes. Though technically you could coordinate it with a satellite system, just saying.

>>96095107
What about the cyclops? 3/5 seems a bit slow.

>>96095555
No, only racist nazi bigots want the game to be mired in toxic 80's culture.

Egg Team assemble!

>>96096856
C3 masters don't really need speed, ideally you hang back and take advantage of the network.
The problem with the C3M cyclops, is it's pretty much just a gauss rifle. For about the same bv, you can take something like the Avatar C, which has more overall fire power and isn't reliant on a single weapon system.

>>96097148
Where my fellow ostmen at

>>96097148
Where is the Ostwar

>>96097195
I have them, I just don't post pictures of unpainted plastic because I'm not an attention seeking faggot.

>>96097195
was warned the lance would be weighted down by ostwar's lack of armor. someone suggested a Neanderthal.

>>96097352
'scuse you, queer.
literally recieved today and wanted to share, specifically at the tail end of a dying thread for minimal mean mugging and attention seeking

>>96097148
Paint them yellow & white for egg goodness
>>96097582
You shouldnt reply to such bad bait

>>96097697
Base coat of white, yellow along the mantle (shoulder to shoulder across chest), forearms, and shins?

>>96097148
Put Orion in there for Marikmaxxing.

>>96097892
But the Orion isn’t an Ostmann Industries product. That’s the entire theme here.

>>96097200
still waiting for clg update

>>96097352
>attention seeking faggot.
This is your full legal name.

>>96095107
For the combination of c3master and long range fire support mech definitely yes.
Though recently I find myself using the panther CM a lot from FM kurita. It is dirt cheap, and surprisingly survivable if you find some woods to jump between and plink with the PPC. The jumping even lets it delay faster headhunters long enough for your body guards to come back in and save the master. And again it is dirt cheap. Bring three CA panthers for maximum fun at only 3703 BV in total including the c3

>>96097697
They're eggs. The proper paintjob is
#55CDFC
#F7A8B8
#FFFFFF
#F7A8B8
#55CDFC

>>96097148 >>96097697
you know what you have to do anon.

>>96095107
Honestly, I don't bother with C3 master mechs and just bring a Schiltron. Basically ALL of them are good at the job. The only problem is that it's not available till '59.

>>96098508
>Honestly, I don't bother with C3

>>96091204
Anything German is nazi by default.

>>96097148
>no flashman

>>96097148
None of the CGL redesigns look eggy.
He didn't even try with the ostroc. Honestly none of them look anything like the mechs they were based on.

>>96099519
The Schiltron has a C3 master and AIV. Full nuclear payload can take out 36 Turkina Zs.

>>96099653
>Anything German is nazi by default.

So is anyone going to bother with a new thread or can we just call /btg/ too /pol/-ridden to continue with and end them permanently?

>>96100749
People who care about battletech will come back when there's a thread. People who are just shitposting will find something else to do.

I have attached a picture of battle armor for no reason. Do with it what you will.

may i please have some more of them Mech magazines?

>>96100749
Is there something wrong with you doing it?

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>>96100901
>>96100901
>>96100901
new

>>96100909
That must've been hard for you

>>96100890
I hate posting new threads on a phone.

>>96100954
nta just helping out