The Diverse Mortal Realms -Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96071647

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>Tools
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>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
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>Thread Question
What do you like least about 4th edition?

>TQ
Keep getting new grey tiders in my games. Granted their wip, but still. At least one dude is doing a cool undead gargant army, so that’s nice.

Although it may seem like a joke, this is canon. I'm referring to the greedy Kharadron.

>>96083799 (OP)
>What do you like least about 4th edition?
Lack of enhancement choices

>>96083845
and their fire-killing cousins are not spared either, I mean their greed

They're doing Regiments of Renown boxsets again! Yay!

>>96083910
they are? what was the wording?

>rage bait image and edition
>TQ encouraging doomposting
>Thread already flooded with those god awful cancelled comics
Are you gonna post 1st Ed maps again next?

>>96083910
price please

>>96083929
Way too damn much + not being brittish tax + import tax + tariff.

>>96083928
Some people are just extremely bored. They could really use a hobby.

>>96083928
First edition maps? What a great idea!

>>96083928
Warhammer is for everyone chud. If you don’t like it. Leave. You will not be missed as per GW.

>>96083966
>some executive really thought that would sell the game

>>96083799 (OP)
At least it's a black man this time instead of a black woman.

So a bunch of khorne characters got canned from GW's webstore.

I have some local stores with those in stock, should I buy them before they dissapear?
What are the chances for the Deathbringres and Skarr Bloodwrath to come back?

>>96083985
Im concerned by the lack of Indian duardin and Indians in general in AoS. Is GW racist against Indians?

>>96084001
The indians are regulated to tau in 40k and the empire in the old world

>>96084001
Game Workshop - British
India - British don't care

>>96084025
That doesn’t explain all the black people the Brit’s stuff in

>>96084042
The chocolate people are from Africa, not India.

Enough of the racist stuff, people came for the flying steampunk dwarves.

>>96083998
deatth bringers you should maybe get some of. Skarr? I have no fucking clue. I wouldnt get it because hes a mess, he looks like some forgeworld project straight out of HH.

>>96084090
No one cares about steampunk anything.

>>96084090
I do like their ships. Helmets are cool too. Dont really understand how the suits work though.

>>96084094
Just say you hate warhammer and the gothic asthetic too.

>>96084090
>mentioning race is racist
>even commenting on racial depiction in media is racist
Consume and stay silent

>>96083920
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jkwdtmzc/sunday-preview-gold-and-gore-flow-through-the-mortal-realms/
>Regiments of Renown: The Red Revelation
>Khorne’s champions are so keen to kill that they’re frequently seen fighting alongside other armies just for the chance to feel axe bite through flesh once more. The Regiment of Renown known as the Red Revelation is one of the more notorious of their mercenary kin, led by the half-crazed Slaughterpriest Zarxor Hell-Eye with his entourage of five Skullreapers and 10 Bloodreavers, who together will throw themselves into any amount of carnage at the behest of the canny Slaughterpriest.
>Regiments of Renown: Drekki’s Privateers
>The infamous name of Drekki Flynt is known and groaned across the Mortal Realms, as the rogue skyfarer’s tales grow taller with every telling. He’s not all flash and no powder, though, as his experienced team of privateers have escaped from too many dicey situations to count, and they’re always ready to throw their lot in behind their captain.

Drekki’s Privateers are a new Regiment of Renown usable in all Order armies, comprising a unit of 10 Arkanaut Company, Drekki Flynt himself, and an Arkanaut Frigate representing the legendary sky-vessel Aelsling – Flynt’s beloved flagship.

>>96083929
They have less stuff than the Spearheads, so I'm going to guess.... 110 bucks.

>>96083985
>At least it's a black man
It's a Duardin you idiot

>>96084091
I like the models and dont mind if they are playable or not.
What I dont know is if they are going to bring them back along with the new deathbringer.
Also, for some reason the old khorne spearhead is also missing. I though they were going to sell 2 spearheads per factions, but it seems that was a lie.

>>96084158
Duardin of Color*

>>96084161
>I though they were going to sell 2 spearheads per factions, but it seems that was a lie.
They never said they were going to sell both at the same time, they said both would be supported in the Spearhead game.

Of course they never said they were going to stop selling the old Spearheads, so you could call that a lie by omission. But if that's the worst thing GW has done to the AoS community this year then we're doing OK.

At least we're way better off than those poor bastards who play Horus Heresy

>>96084161
>Also, for some reason the old khorne spearhead is also missing. I though they were going to sell 2 spearheads per factions, but it seems that was a lie.
This is just copium, and tinfoil guessing, but my guess is that GW will sell the old spearheads that left the store via the next run of the storm-bringer magazine. Which should start like what, next year?

Okay, guys, serious question. Does anyone have the links to these books, or at least some of them?

>>96084221
someone posted s2d last thread. Last three still arent even out yet. I'd be interested in the soulblight pdf myself.

>>96084221
Warclans
https://files.catbox.moe/ifkipc.pdf
Skaven
https://files.catbox.moe/y4dy4e.pdf

>>96084221
4th Edition Golden Medieval Space Marines

files<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash hsl68i<dot>pdf

Seraphon...Seraphim?

>>96084221
>4chan filename
>erm just wondering if someone could send me 9 pdfs
Fuck off james

>>96084472
You discovered me, congratulations, you deserve a prize and it is that you give me the links to all these books

>>96084537
1e covers fucked

>>96084537
I got you anon
>https://files.catbox.moe/kl1lzr.pdf

>>96084472
At least give me Slaves of Darkness 4th Edition please.

>>96084567
Seraphon 1e was my favorite of the bunch. Really sold the "cosmic" side of the faction.

>>96084735
Latino lizardmen changed to Latino space lizardmen, that was quite a change.

>>96084757
Lizardmen are not Latino retard the latinos are the ones who conquered and replaced the people the lizardmen are based on.

Lizardmen should be capable of boxing if they were latino

>>96079707
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_Mortal_Realms
Noone linked this last thread, but there's tons of cool stuff that's been presented

>>96084694
Nigga at least check the last thread

>>96084838
That's not a latino stereotype

>>96084944
It very much is.

>>96084951
Where?

>prosecutors temporarily out of stock
please be bringing back the old sculpt

>>96084944
Some of the best fighters in the ufc have been Brazilian

What army do blerds play? Post skin as proof.

That new underworlds warband is so shit. It is like the 4th Khorne warband and by far the worst looking and unimaginative warband.
They could have reprinted Magore or Garrek warbands and people would be 1000% happier about it.
Where the fuck is the chaos dwarf warband? God I hare GWS selfsabotage.

>>96085024
Are flyers in the new ghb still good? Had a dude tell me they get instagibbed now to shooting but I havent really ran into it being an issue yet.
>>96085006
Race is a pretty important thing when it comes to blood sports, and Latins get touched upon quite a bit in that area. Shit, capoeira was made in brazil for a reason.

>>96085062
It's not race, it's money. Wealthy countries don't produce as many top level fighters. Look at the top boxers in the US, they generally have rough backgrounds.

>>96084537
I hate when they randomly reuse cover art between editions.

>>96085231
a reused cover is better than a downgrade, for example nobody would have whined about it if they kept the hedonite cover

>>96085256
I prefer they'd try and fail than not try at all

>>96085062
They don't get shot anymore than they have for 10 years. There isn't even particularly a lot of shooting in the game atm outside of a few select strong examples.

>>96085279
they can try and fail before publishing the shit, if they don't come with a better cover, the old cover should stay and the new uglier artwork can be in a page inside the book.

Don't defend slop.

>>96084938
thumbing through this thing and damn the darkoath marauder models look terrible, what a miss.

>>96083998
>should I buy them before they dissapear?
Yes. Sucks for Khorne, they aren't getting a pity hero. Beats me why they decided to do a resculpt of a model that was one of the best looking ones in the entire range.

>>96085374
Aren't they consolidating aspiering and exalted Deathbringers into just Deathbringers, hance dedicated model for just Deathbringer?

>>96085386
Yes.

>>96083998
I see why gw killed him, they thought he was a beastman

>>96083998
Who the fuck thought those weapons were a good idea?

>>96085434
you simply lack the necessary skill.

This is it. If the chorf rules are bad AoS is dead. 4.0 is a disaster that’s almost as bad as the new HH launch. Spearhead is the only thing keeping this system alive at this point.

>>96083998
Why the fuck was wfb Khorne aesthetic "red people in normal chaos warrior armor" instead of sensible "normal people in red armor" we have now?

>>96085456
2 weeks

>>96085456
hopefully para-bellum buys gw.

>>96083998
>So a bunch of khorne characters got canned from GW's webstore.

>>96085516

>>96085456
>4.0 is a disaster
I hate the player mentality where they always complain about 4e being way worse than 3e, but will refuse to just keep using the 3e when playing

>>96085457
It wasn't, the red skinned black armored ones existed exclusively to contrast the white skinned red armored ones from the same kit

I still don’t get why they used Khorne as the starter faction for 1e. Blightkings were right there.

>>96085516
>>96085519
Gorechosen of Drom are sold in Despoilers and Demons box

https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/warhammer-underworlds-despoilers-and-daemons-2024?queryID=45f8015d888509200237d529cd0b7dba

>>96085548
>i don't get why they made new models for the starter instead of reboxing existing stuff
Are you retarded?

>>96085516
The khorgorath isn't a character model.

>>96085516
Kind of odd that a big model like Skalok only remained available for a year and a half.

>>96085608
I could imagine it was a bitch to cast

Price listing in €

>>96085701
what went so wrong that small plastic heroes cost 30€

>>96085712
Brexit, Covid, Houthi attacks on Red Sea shipping, tariff wars, inflation, and just general greedflation on top of everything else.

>>96085608
Forge world gonna forge world

>>96085519
Not one mounted khorne hero?!

>>96085701
So 47.50 for the vongrim
35 for the null chemist
110 for the drekki RoR, 5 euros cheaper than spearheads go for.
51 for the porta potty (pretty steep no?)
30 for the deathbringer
70 for the khorne RoR
Seems in line with pricing for gw
>>96085712
Characters are an absolute ripoff, the markup is actually insane. The aggradon scar veteran is like 2 dollars cheaper than the aggradon lancers despite being the same fucking model with two bits of armor slapped on him. 40keks have it even worse, take a look at some of their primatis lieutenants or captains, literally just an intercessor but you get to pay 35 dollars for them.

>>96085712
Just five years ago Underworlds warbands used to cost like 18 euros or thereabouts, now they're twice that. Kinda bananas how much ahead of inflation these prices rise.

>>96085879
monopoly in an unregulated market. set the price to whatever you want because people will pay it since you're the only game in town and no authority has any jurisdiction or will to reign you in.

>>96086007
Well, most indies aren't much better. TTCombat's Carnivale RRP £30 a box for 5 figures a box, while Modiphus' Fallout: Wasteland Warfare is £40 RRP for a 5 figure box. ASOIF boxes generally retail for £38. Star Wars Legion is £50 for 6 figures.

I'll give Warlord credit - Bolt Action retails like £27 for a box of ten guys, the only problem is you then have to play Bolt Action. Oathmark and Bolt Action are significantly cheaper per model - but noticably poorer quality and generally less interesting sculpts though that all depends on the maker. I'd argue Witch Elves are boring as fuck if you make 2x5 units that all stand the exact same. You gotta wiggle the arms around a little, capiche?

So I'd argue that Warhammer and Games Workshop don't neccessarily HAVE a monopoly - there's a fuckton of games I haven't mentioned that have the same pricetags if not worse for more niche settings. Some of them are smaller and indie - which explain the cost - but Modiphus is a gigantic company and charges ridiculous prices. This isn't even looking at other companies like Dungeons and Lazers or the official D&D minis that are also robbery.

>>96086030
Indies don't have economies of scale on their side. GW could undercut most of them and keep the lights on if they wanted to (which they don't, because they don't need to be that agressive to outcompeat)

Warcry more like War-oh-my-god-it's-so-over

>>96086079
stop warcrying

>>96086079
Do people actually play underworlds?

>>96086030
>Indie
None of those are indie, but yeah the idea of system driven ranges lends itself to price gouging. When you couple a game with miniatures the valuation isn't as a broad so people can rationalize paying £40 for 3 ABS slop Warcrow miniatures because "that's like half a warband!" GW benefit from the same with overpriced infantry heroes and behemoths but they also lead the industry in quality and it's still wargames so there's plenty of 10-20 dudes for £30~ in their offerings.
Historical companies expanding into fantasy have the agnostic approach so you get WGA and Osprey boxes of 30+ minis for £25 because the valuation is the miniatures themselves not how there enable access to an exclusive game.
GW definitely do have a virtual monopoly though. Any LGS will be stocked with GW and they deliberately release games to push competitors off the shelves. They'll release a 40k space combat game as X-Wing takes off to stop people leaving their ecosystem. "Warhammer is your favourite hobby." They totally dominate and do everything in their power to expand, hence the ruthless release cycle that has crippled their production logistics but deviating from it could risk consumers becoming aware of anything else.

>>96086102
I play 1e, haven't felt like buying a new system

>>96086102
There's an autistic TCG metagamer scene but afaik GW have been antagonising them since 2nd edition so who knows how active they are.
I would bet UW is getting scrapped thanks to legends warscrolls. They probably got sales before from AoS players but everyone's too nerdy to play something other than tournament style games nowadays

>>96086030
problem with the indies is that they arent actually competition. not in the proper sense of the word, they cant use cheaper prices or better deals to take sales away from GW, they just arent big enough and GW has too much of the market share, so this ends up in a scenario where GW sets the market price and everyone else sets their prices accordingly. so yes, games workshop does have a monopoly. they control probably upwards of 90% of the marketshare, set the market rate for fantasy and scifi wargames, and bully other games off of the shelfs of local gaming stores with very little pushback, GW stockist reps lately have become increasingly brazen with arm twisting "stock X or we wont give you Y" ultimatums as well, forcing local stores to carry excess GW product they may not want because they wont get their fulfillment of the new hotness otherwise

the only place i know where this is not the case is the historicals market, which sells to a somewhat different audience and is detached from the GW market space. and because of that you see companies like perry and victrix selling boxes of 40-60 plastic sprue miniatures for like $40-50. the plastic miniatures they are producing are of no less technical quality than GW relatively speaking (some difference in aesthetic and scale but otherwise nearly identical in terms of milling and casting quality), but because they mostly dont interact with that GW ecosystem and are often direct to consumer, they can afford to set their prices far lower per model.

>>96086127
>they cant use cheaper prices or better deals
>£25

>>96086135
>£28

>>96086141
£68

>>96086135
>>96086141
the deals are only better if the quality is the same
the quality of the products here is not the same

>>96086149
copium

>>96086102
Yep. 1e was really good. 2e (Shitgard) is meh.
1e is a good hybrid of Miniature and cardgame.

Also to be fair 2e is not good just because they removed lots of good things from 1e (arts, magic dice, board placement, etc) and tried to make it more like other games instead of its own thing. If they did the same system for 40k it would be better than abandoning the old edition.

>>96086121
I highly doubt many people were playing UW bands as UW bands.
Other than maybe that one Beastmen wizard

>>96086106
>indie
yeah i misspoke but I agree with the idea that some of these manufacturers can sell models cheaper because there's no game attached - I saw at the UKGE that Rubicon is now releasing it's first system. At UKGE, I almost bought a fuckton of Warcrow too, before changing my mind and I'm glad I didn't buy 'em.

Warhammer is also everywhere - hobby shops and art shops here now sell Warhammer. My local newspaper shop has a Warhammer stand. They are everywhere.

>>96086127
I don't neccessarily disagree, I do think there is an element of other studios selling their stuff at what they think they can sell at based on GW. Modiphus prices make me gag everytime I see them, and what astounds me is that people buy them.

Oathmark Skeletons aren't anywhere near as nice as Warhammer ones, but you can get a box of Warhammer Skulls and they're CLOSE ENOUGH, especially for kitbash which is why I bought them.

I wanted people to think about it instead of the silly "the markets unregulated!!!! nobody will stop games workshop from making you pay a MILLION EUROS for a box!!!" because it sounds pathetic

Rules preview

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/r1y5d0m1/innovate-speculate-and-accumulate-with-the-new-battletome-kharadron-overlords/

>>96086186
GW sets the prices at the bleeding edge of what they can get away with without tanking their own sales. It's blatant customer gouging but obviously there's still a limit to it.

>>96086222
>18 attacks

>>96086222
So as predicted, the terrain piece is basically one actual terrain piece (heals ships) that can summon drones that are effectively small endless spells, and can be resummoned after being destroyed.

>>96086246
im worried the endrinmasters are going to lose their native healing abilities to try to force you into using this thing

>>96086222
>little propellers in the beard
Cute.

>>96086079
Chorf bros be prepared!

>>96086222
Is just me or new KO look very good?

>>96086287
GW isn't going to advertise the nerfs in their hype article. We'll have to wait for the full rules to be certain.

>>96086079
I'm surprised GW is still pushing Legion Imperialis

>>96086298
im not really sure how they could get worse. KO already nerfed them into the ground heading into 4th edition when they cut all the shooting units damage in half, and now the new season has copious terrain rules to straight up nullify shooting, while their melee is 40ppm for a dude with 2 damage 2 attacks. the ship trasnport capacities got nerfed, the bombs got nerfed, the endrinworks got mostly removed, the army lost most of its deepstrike and fly high tricks.

like...whats even left to nerf?

Kislev when (for CoS proxies)

>>96086490
Neo Kislev doesn't look nearly as good as this guy

>>96086490
end of the year

>>96086186
Warcrow is such a shame, if it was Warcry priced I'd buy a tonne but 3-5x that is taking the piss for the cheap plastic they use

is there a pdf or imgur album of the idoneth leak

>>96086550
I thought the book is out?

>>96086287
>no more redeploy teleports
nah theyre fucked m8

>>96085560
you didnt undestnad the question

>>96085523
nta but I tried this with my friends and they just opted to switch to another game instead.

it sucks but there's a variety of reasons people don't want to play an older version of the game. Mostly because they want to experience something new.

>>96086102
>>96086121
desu the game is more fun than aos 4e and has more depth and flavor somehow for a game with 3-9 models involved.

>>96086152
The rivals mode is a downgrade but everything else I like better. Some warbands didn't make the transition well. The game feels less dicey than the times I played 1e and I like that I'm not replacing my warband's core abilities with generic cards when doing deckbuilding.

>>96086717
Blightkings were already out, so why the fuck would they use them in the starter?

>>96086727
New editions always win, even if they suck, the logistics are unstoppable.

There's like a short window when a new edition is out where you can still kinda play the old one for a while, but it gets increasingly convoluted.
>what if your army is new to 4E
>or your units
>or you just want to use this one battletome that wasn't a straight downgrade like, I dunno 3E KB vs 4E where they at least have army rules
etc etc

Eventually you're either playing some complicated homebrew mess with like the one other person in the world who agrees with you or you give up and move to the new edition.

That said, I have purchased no battletomes for 4E and I don't plan to change that. Just gonna paint my backlog for a couple of years and hope the next one is better.

>>96085548
They were already using nurgle for the 40k starter.

who is your favorite AoS character? No legacy characters allowed.

>>96086298
>>96086287
They mention you can't lift units outside your turn, so no redeploy and picking up your units. As well as no picking up units in combat. They could have added more retreat and shoot however.

>>96086852
/mydudes/ otherwise ima have to go with motha fuggin uhhhhh…olynder (waifu), krethusa (i like her dynamic within the faction, also bandaged pants are a plus), cados cool too.

>>96086852
Kurdoss Valentian is pretty dope. But all the NH characters have good hooks.

>>96086852
Gordrakk

>Gordrakk
>Gobsprakk
What is with Orruk named characters being lazy rushed options in generic kits? Will we ever get real unique models for them?

>>96086943
limited budget, limited range
no

>>96086897
I like that the two ghosts that follow him are just Statler and Waldorf

>>96086943
gobsprakk is actually kind of a clever name, gob being slang for mouth or face, and sprakk being a bastardized pronounciation of speak or sprechen, which is apt given that his title is the mouth of mork

not exactly sure what the story is with gordrakk, you could maybe infer the drakk part to be a reference to his drake/wyvern and gor to be a name taken after gork, so he is gorks dragon.

>>96083799 (OP)
You know if you, ignoring your malformed mongoloid gorilla-like hands, mustered the effort you'd find the book was firmly alright. That said, the lack of customization. People no longer build lists, you operate them.

>>96087002
Gor comes from gore I guess which has origins in spear or filth, so spear-dragon. Mainly it's a riff on Grimgor which he is based on.

>>96086852
>>96086897
The whole kurdoss/olynder charade is funny as fuck, they're definitely up there for me. There's also that one fec guy being the only one of his entire race that can actually read, and temporarily realises what is actually going on, pretty fun too. Katakros is decently interesting at times. Come to think of it, the death faction characters are ironically the most lively.
I remember cado and price maesa being decently well done characters, at least by BL standards.
Finally he's barely a character, but ever since the gitz announcement trailer I've had a soft spot for skragrott
>da bad moon spoke to me once

>>96087121
His axe too

>>96087033
>malformed mongoloid gorilla-like hands
those are gloves, you racist retard.

>>96087136
They'll never acknowledge this.

>>96087136
hes too happy to be inspired from him

>>96087166
its probably best if they dont or old world would try and steal it and put it on a rectangle

>>96087190
People have already tried to put the krusha on a square base.

>>96087166
They did in the early White Dwarfs?

>>96087121
>gore I guess which has origins in spear or filth
I think you're digging a bit too deep

>>96087216
no

>>96087275

>>96086500
I'd settle for this with some cossack bits pilfered from historical ranges

>>96087323
I think the orc guy with a sword is more about the bleeding thing than spears

>>96086943
>>96086965
big shot named characters just having generic counterparts is cool though. I wish tahlia had a generic marshal on manticore option or something.

>>96087391
It's as simple as saying helmeted version is a differetn thing and maybe assoritng 1 of the dozen weapon option to it.
As Crypt Horror box shows us, GW can make infiniete units out of a kit

>>96086490
I'd only ever buy kislev if soulblight gets an army of renown that lets them take COS for a real ulfekarn army.

>>96087401
yeah seems like a pretty easy and cost-efficient way to increase the sales potential of a specific kit, so I don't really know why GW doesn't do it more. I guess they figure having special characters be really unique and stand out ends up generating more sales in the long run ? idk.

>>96087476
ulfenkarn is almost completely fucking destroyed, didn't have living militia and the vyrkos don't hang in there anymore

>>96087545
He means the vib of a vampire controled human city, not that one specific hellhole

Where are the Chorfs?

>>96087606
I really hope they don’t look like that

>>96087606
5 days in the future

>>96087606
Aqshy and Shyish mostly.

>>96087606
They're not going to look like this, the big hats are as much of a meme as the pointy helmets were for lumineth.

>>96087659
I wish they would do these
>HASGW

>>96087659
Can't they pay some intern extra $0,5 to continue Hammerhal Herald?

>>96087545
opposite, I want mercenary deathrattle for a Hallost army of the living fighting alongside their dead ancestors

>>96087659
If they don't look like pic related i can already see some backlash.

>>96087731
GW is driven by passionate individual leads so when one leaves it's like the material never existed in the first place. Internally next to no one knew of it let alone how to continue it.
Warcry is dead because the lead left and blanche retired with the scraps of Warcry pitches in his desk thrown out with the scrap.

>>96086852
Katakros

>>96087754
meant for >>96087709

>>96086852
Katakros for sure, annoying to have his story left on a cliff hanger for now. Siege of eightpoints is one of the coolest stories in AoS.

>>96086751
Same, gotta have people agree on which season (or not) and whether or not to drag erratas into the mix as well. Honestly would love to do a retrospective on some seasons with my armies after they've had their tomes released for 3e.

>>96086852
Kurdoss
I like characters who are fucking losers
>>96087126
Whispers of Da Bad Moon was such a good trailer

>>96086852
The one and only. He doesnt need a big horse or giant weapon to have style.

>>96086852
Chadakros

>>96087659
>>96087751
I seem to remember the usual rumourmongers hinting at a pretty classic look for chorfs but I can't find the relevant post

>>96087976
>AoS
>Getting a new faction
Your "game" is winding down, they're just trickling out all the in progress molds to make a bit of profit before pulling the plug. 3e was a total failure and 4e is even worse!

>>96087932
>or giant weapon
That stick is pretty big

>>96087932
he does need to stop losing his casting bonuses though. this mother fucker has been losing casting ability and shooting attacks for 2 battletomes straight and its really pissing me off

Baiters used to put in effort

>>96088098
Literally the best thing you can do is just completely ignore them and not even make posts like this.

>>96088098
So did AoS, compare the release schedule, fluff, game and community quality of 2e vs 4e.

>>96088130
what went so wrong? really that shitty tow release is affecting aos?

So the Alchemy freak is totally going to be a wizard, right?

Why is Azyr the only wind capable of purifying chaos

>>96088501
It's not.

>>96088531
Most other winds purge it in the instances I’ve seen the two biggest ones being hysh and Aqshy pretty much obliterating chaos and what was there. Azyr in the depictions I’ve seen so far (Stormcast prayer rain, Ghal maraz etc) seems to wash it away and clean it instead

Just ordered me this fine fella here to lead my troops

>>96088616
I like how he looks old, probably a rare trait in skaven society. I wonder what the average lifespan is.

>>96088646
>I wonder what the average lifespan is.
20ish years according to ratmen and all their vile kin IIRC, and that's just their metabolism. Killing likely drag that down to 5-10ish on average. Leaders tend to extend their lifespan via magic and copious amounts of warpstone.

>>96086030
>but then you have to play bolt action
Bolt action models are mid, the game/rules are way better than any AoS game barring MESBG.

>>96088646
It's actually part of his fluff that he's especially old for a skaven and that's why he needs to rely on the imprisoned daemon to fight well

>>96088301
yeah

>>96088501
historically the wind better suited for cleaning chaos corruption is hysh, then aqshy, and in aos they decided azyr does that too.
it could be reasoned that all winds have one way of purification or another, depending on the amount of raw power, skills of the wizard, and purity of the energy being used, it would be weird if ghyran didn't have it for example, and the manipulation of shyish could be used to properly manage the wind of death which when untreated easily turns to dhar, so in a sense its use can be purifying, if not sterilising, but for some winds it might be simply way easier and more common than for others.

>>96088727
I assumed it was implied to be the other way around; having access to a powerful daemon bullshit blade is one of the only ways to actually grow old in skaven society. Nice bit of storytelling in the model imo.
>>96088855
I wanna see some wizard use ghur to cleanse chaos
>listen to the monke inside you

Godrakk will Siege Azyr soon guys! 5e will be our time for sure destructionbros!

>>96088914
It's imbedded in skaven society as one of their main motivators. They all want to climb that ladder to get access to food, magic, technology and warpstone to stay alive longer. The lords of decay are all likely to be 100+ years old.

>>96088963
5e is for deathchads to bring kino back on the menu

Is no one else worried that 1e models coming out again means we are entering more of a maintenance phase? Are they lowering resources for AoS? I know people will say Chorfs but that’s a project that was started years ago.

>>96088914
>I wanna see some wizard use ghur to cleanse chaos
>>listen to the monke inside you
It would be one weird form of meditation but it is a form of meditation that brings you away from the spiralling thoughts that lead to chaos nonetheless

>>96089039
>1e models coming out again
are you mistaking reboxing for something else here?

>>96089047
I always understood chaos as something deeply "wrong" and unnatural, so in a sense ghur calling to that animalistic, primal part of a person could work pretty well as a means to cleanse the unnatural that is chaos.
That being said I don't actually know that much about the origin of chaos in aos itself. As far as I remember chaos just kind of appeared one day after the age of myth ? Something about them spending time conquering other universes before discovering the mortal realms' existence or some shit ?

>>96089031
Death editions are the only good ones
1e: Chaos Edition
>few pages of rules that nobody played
>sharty lore nobody knew, anyone who read it immediately started bleeding from the eyes
>maybe a few dozen people who own a GA book
>started the retarded microfaction trend
2e: Death Edition
>lore is suddenly dark gothic KINO
>rules are fun and actually defined
>largest explosion of releases, both rules and models in the game's history
>huge encouragement of creativity, super customizable army building
>/aosg/ was making sub-realm maps for /ourdudes/ to hang out and fight in
>game suddenly becomes top 5 best selling wargame
3rd: Destruction edition
>destruction's lore buildup in 2e is instantly resolved at the start of the edition, lore stagnates as nothing happens
>few armies get releases, most just get a pity foot hero in the monster mash edition
>rules remove lots of options and adds an annoying scoring system most people ignore anyone
>lots of the fun rules are stripped out, every army is streamlined
>can't even run a GA army anymore, rules to theme your army after a realm are gone too
>move into a video game style "seasonal" format
4e: Chaos edition
>lore even more stagnant than 3e due to le big skaven attack reversing everything that happened in 3e anyway
>more factions removed than added since 2e
>rules more streamlined, less variety and fun. everything reads like a magic the gathering game done with multi step sub-phases with specific timings to everything
>went all in on the gay scoring system that nobody enjoyed
>only active players just play the spearhead minigame

Basic summary
>Chaos editions are total duds where nobody plays
>Death editions are kino that propel the game into its highest highs
>Destruction editions are just kind of meh

>>96089234
It's hard to acknowledge 2e as best when I keep remembering how retarded skaven battleline mechanics were back then

>>96089281
Everyone had some retarded shit going on, that's why it was the best

>>96089234
>autist in charge
>best factions
>best characters
>best editions
Grand alliance death carrying the game once more
5th edition will be a new golden age for aos
Hear hear

>>96089234
Difference between 1e and 2e:
>Reroll saves instead of +1 for mystic shield
>All heroes can use command abilities not just your general
Wow, what a drastic change I can't believe anyone played 1st edition! Well, I know you didn't ;)

>>96089324
Yup, it helps to have the most cohesive faction identity in the game
>Order: Sigmar and his friends
>Chaos: Chaos and Skaven too now
>Death: NAGASH IS ALL. ALL IS NAGASH
>Destruction: Other

>>96089335
Yup, nobody played 1e. They released those GA books towards the end that nobody played too. 2e realized people like armies so it made battletomes. Each battletome had huge lists of artefacts, traits, sub factions, spells that you could stack with your realm rules. They were glorious, you can keep seething about it microfaction shitter

>>96089350
GA books launched six months in. Battletomes were day 1, but
>started the retarded microfaction trend
is wrong because soup was dominant and battletomes didn't even have allegiance abilities to justify microfactions until halfway through 1e (or a year in for GHB allegiances covering like Wanderers and Dispossessed).
Cope and seethe retard

>>96089442
Discord literally told me 1e had moustache rules and shit. I guarantee you no one was playing that.

>>96086287
What is there to be impressed with in that article, transport was nerfed, the new hero looks useless, the terrain piece is weak.
The only thing that is going to noticeably improve ko is if the new unit is incredibly cheap, spammable, and overpowered.

>>96089442
>1e wasn't microfactions
>you know, the edition that made the Pestilens and Bonesplitterz battletome
Kek, nice try bud. Seethe chaoshitter, NOBODY likes your editions other than bizarre bug people attracted to branding

>>96089350
artefact pruning was all 2nd edition. Malign Sorcery was 1st edition and 2nd outlawed that with
>3 per realm instead of 12
and then a year later
>1 per realm

>>96089508
2e is what made the good battletomes for every faction, it used to be just GA artefacts and the occasional microfaction garbage that nobody played.

>>96089455
>Discord literally told me 1e had mustache rules
You should be eligible for playing it then you tranny

>>96087659
lumineth do have stupid hats though, the caligrave, bladelords, stonemage, eltharion, bannerblade, all of them do.

>>96088052
If they pulled aos and salvaged the models by rebasing stormcast on squares for tow, I'd be surprised but I wouldn't kill myself over it or something.

>>96088616
stormvermin 100 points when.

>>96083799 (OP)
Drekki has the rare honor of having non-cringe Black Library rep
>pub crawl opening
>Interstellar / Treasure Planet setpieces
>Drekki's mortal nemesis is his father-in-law
>Drekki ties up a wizard-girl as bait
>SQUIG BLIMP
>Kharadron fracking
>doesn't read like an AI wrote it
>no Stormcast

>>96088963
>>96089031
>>96089234
You guys figure they'll keep the chaos/death/destruction cycle going ? Bit too early to judge with only round 1 of cycle 2 confirmed

>>96089631
He’s also a black dwarf so he has more swag than cringe whiteoid duardin.

>>96089647
No, they'll do what they think the state of the model ranges demands. All the room for refreshes is in chaos and mawtribes.

>>96089704
> they'll do what they think the state of the model ranges demands
>new kharadron unit is literally just another version of a unit they already have
>previous undead release was the 3rd resculpt of the skeleton warriors kit in 5 years

GW has no plan and doesnt give a fuck whats already in the range or what it needs. at this point they're taking a bus out to stonehenge, rolling the bones, sacrificing a chicken and consulting a druid to determine what to put out next for all we know. i mean hell did you see gitmob? yeah, thats what gloomspite needed, a 3rd cavalry subfaction.

>>96089767
come on dude a unit of reused assets for ko was quick and easy, gitmob is dual use with tow.

>>96089647
If they do three dogshit edition in a row then the game is finished, death kino is the only savior

>>96089799
if it was death then would have just waited on soulblight and added on new vargheist, CC, etc.

Are you saying stermcast aren't outselling everything else like marines do in 40k?

>>96089798
>gitmob was dual use
>make new wolves 3x the size of any cavalry in ToW
>hero wolf bigger than the warboss wyvern
>new doomdiver is 10x the size of the old one on GWs biggest oval
>new chariots at least twice the size of ToW chariots

the new gitmob is one of the biggest fuck you's to old world ever, its all so out of size with anything they can use, its like they got a gitmob refresh but its completely incompatible with their base sizes and rules.

>>96086514
I almost bought £120 of Warcrow Wood Elves because they were nice sculpts but I changed my mind at the end because there weren't very many of them

>>96089816
Someone ever, reallistically, expected that? I mean people don't like them and the fact they shoehorned edition after edition such faction didnt help their case.

>>96089872
>Warcrow
Crazy how CB have fallen since they peaked with Red Veil

>>96089892
>Someone ever, reallistically, expected that?

>>96089039
Legitimately what I'm predicting for 5e

>Game is reformatted to be closer to spearhead+.
>Premade compositions with some flex. Most have a unique hero as a leader. Maybe some flex space where you can choose your subcommander or between 1-2 options.
>Army shrinks just a little more and is rebranded away from "war game" to "fast paced action" game.
>Small cuts to remaining customization, spell lores gone, spells are just tied to the wizards themselves with them having access to the faction spell lore. Command Abilities dropped in favor of cards, too much resource tracking and slowing the game down.
>Double turn eliminated.
>Stronger underdog bonuses.


Everything since 2e has been about making the game shrink in size, complexity and penalizing the double turn. It's the natural next step.

>>96089816
>>96089892
They probably do, just not nearly to the extent marines do. For comparison the 40k version has marines at like 25%, chaos marines at around 22%, and then it drops off a cliff with the next best at around 5 or 6. Oh, and that's just people's primary factions, the 40k had another bar representing just general ownership with marines at 60% lol.

>>96089816
Not combined. Individually quite likely yes

>>96089914
Yeah I think the transition to a board game is the direction they want to take it in terms of gameplay. 4e has made that pretty clear. It’s not a bad thing either. A simpler, faster game will appeal to more people. GW is clearly tuning their main games to be simple mass appeal competitive affairs while having the specialist games be the crunchy grog proper wargames.

>>96089914
if it goes to a full on preconstructed format im legit out. that shit killed warmachine, i dont think i have it in me to stick around for that again

>>96090016
>>96089996
The big question is how they'll handle battletomes since I doubt they want to give up that as a money maker. Maybe they'll stop publishing spearhead profiles online.

It's not like they don't have precedents; they use to have every unit's profile on the store but took that away with 3e.

I think premades or a more guided experience is what they want to make the buy in more palatable. If you tell people, they only need to buy 2 spearheads to get the min size needed for spearhead+ then that's a much easier sell than right now.

If they do go down this road, I really do want a specialist game for AoS focused on larger army sizes.

>>96089551
>caligrave, bladelords, bannerblade
these weren't released with the first tome

>>96089647
every single time gw had a pattern going on they eventually broke it, so I don't count on it, but I also see zombies or an ossiarch wave as perfect starter set material

>>96090189
never forget Nightmare Quest

>>96089488
You're in an Age of Sigmar thread, dude. You're literally knee deep in a piss ditch with the other fella, tasting each others' logs and arguing over which rancid dump is most delicious.

>>96090199
>they killed Warcry before putting out a Hedonite warband

>>96090271
Warcry had some really good stuff if you were a Chaos fan. Is a shame they didnt made it better.

>>96090268
leave it to the discord troon to describe their fantasies

>>96090271
It's a mercy. Hedonite warband would've looked cool but it would've been a random base-sized assortment of 7-10 dudes with 1 semi-hero, 3-4 shitters, some random one-off dude, and 3 or so elites and a mandatory pet.

>>96090292
You *clap* play *clap* Age *clap* of *clap* Sigmar.

I know that WF said that Chuardin aren't going to have Horns of Hashut or Slittaz, but I really hope there's something I can proxy those as...

>Schizophrenic brigade always in full force specially when release incoming
Is so tiresome...

>>96090313
questor soulsworn aren't like that, and even if it was so what.

how does warcry get cancelled but shitty underworlds is still going strong.

He's a perfect cinnamon roll.

>>96089892
stormcast would have met their expectations had they launched as slimcast with bascinets and sallets instead of deathmask with silver paint schemes.

>>96090474
I wonder what he looked like as a Nurgle servant.

>>96090340
Did he say they wouldn't be part of the chorfs? I thought he just said they wouldn't be part of the 12 kits chorfs launch with

>>96090493
Rumour said chorfs get their own differet Hobgrot kit, but idk if it was from a trustworth source

>>96090493
Yes, pretty plainly.
He was asked if the Slittaz/Slittaboss and Horns would be part of the 12 chorf units, and he replied "No and they won't." and later followed up with "CD has their own hobgrots."

>>96090405
Cheaper production costs maybe? Underworlds they just need to shit out a handful of decks and teams a year. Warcry has terrain and a bunch more layers in gameplay that need balancing and development

>>96090405
The lead designer left. If they make a new edition, it'll be a reboot hence the lack of existing support - because the designer is on a different wavelength. That said it's probably dead golden Spearhead is shilled as an entry point and I know it's not Skirmish but I doubt GW care because there's no competition.
What there is competition for is low model count skirmish-esque unit based games. GW will push Spearhead until Warcrow is dead.

>>96090649
GW CANT compete with Trench crusade

>>96090763
Tbqh the most serious competition any GW game has to contend with is all the other GW games.

>>96086222
So are KO gas chambers canon now?

>>96086852
I quite liked Broddur the Battlesmith in Realmslayer; he was a fat little dorf with a big heart.
>"The Duardin are thick of skin and dense of bone, vermin. The metalcraft of rats will not shatter that which ur-gold has remade! That's right; come to me! Despoil the magmavault of a Fyreslayer, will you? I'll tell a tale of Unbaki vengeance in the blood of your clan, upon the cheapest gold known to the metalcraft of the Dispossessed!"

You don't like stormcast because they remind you too much of space marines. I don't like stormcast because they're no longer fat.

>>96090892
I still think that the original Knight Questor is the best SC design

>>96090890
No, but they deserved it

>>96090890
>So are KO gas chambers canon now?
Idk what you mean by gas chambers. But they've used aerosolic weapons since their launch in 1e. It's what the grundstok fumigator and the khemist's anatomizer are for.

>>96090931
All the heroes are fine, the issue is they shouldn't be anything but. They should be heroes any army in Order can take

>>96090892
This. To this date im still amazed at how many models they dare to kill from SCE

>>96091381
He may be a fatcast, but vandus was really cool

Is slaanesh still in the cuck cage or what

>>96091579
Dude you missed the whole god ark at the en of 3e. Khorne and kinda Tzeentch (he went mad and his domain shifted around) are the only of the OG 4 left, with 3 new guys showing up

>>96091579
Still in the cage but the chains are being broken

>>96091637
What would change if he got out?
It's not like his demons or followers stopped.

>>96091656
His demons are less numerous, weaker and dysorganized.

>>96091656
Things would escalate.

>>96091656
she would cum

>>96091430
Nah, the Dracoth car plating looks terrible

If ossiarch were to be the main villains next set, what do you thinking would the new units or in the boxset? I feel like archers and a chariot are simple additions. Maybe some cheap chaff bone-beasts.

>>96091656
>What would change if he got out?
nothing

>>96091656
nothing really, they'd probably coincide it with new models for them or something

Even though they're advancing the story compared to WHFB, they wouldn't ever change the status quo. The story would be more engaging if it was actually feasible that the power dynamics could change against and within chaos. Kinda funny for a primordial force called Chaos, the gods are always the same.

>>96091656
nothing
ever
happens

>>96091792
>obr starter
and people thought dominion sat on shelves lol.

>>96090892
stormcast look cool now, they no longer have anything in common with space marines pretty much at all.

>>96091924
Yeah that would be a bigger flop than Dominion or Skaventide

>>96092018
flop?

>>96091381
I don't get why people like these models. I think they look too bulky and overloaded and too much going on. Over processed sort of, and something else I just can't put my finger on to derscribe.

>>96091766
The dracoth looks like shit but I quite like vandus himself. Cool helmet, cool cape.
>>96091792
Mortek archers and a chariot, maybe some new ballista ish artillery are the obvious ones, but it's hard to come up with a basic infantry option that's not your standard mortek spears/shields. Could turn the mace guy from underworlds into a full unit but that feels kind of like a cop-out. Maybe a more elite samurai option based on the katakros diorama guy ? Naginata monks inspired dudes if we're going for the samurai theme ? Idk, not an easy one.
>>96091924
I feel like they've got more fans than kruleboyz, though I haven't seen a lot of either at my lgs. If they continue the launch cycle it's between them an fec, and I think they're a bit more broadly appealing than fec. That is, if they don't just introduce another army into the game like vampire coast

>>96092023
discord said.......

>>96091931
They look so damn cool now.

>>96091792
Honestly if they launched some upgrade sprues for some units in the army I'd be all for it. Just about everything in the army has posable arms.

>Cheap archers like 60-80 points to sit on points and do chip damage. Something like nh crossbow ghosts, come in 5's.
>Beast unit that are like the war dogs in the warcry box.
>5 man heavy infantry, priced 140-160. Mortek get shuffled down to 100-110 point chaff.
>3 man monstrous cav option for 200-220. Kavalos get capped at 170 points, they're light cav.

Past that they can do whatever. The army really needs to get it's shit sorted, it's been rewritten like 3 times and 2 of those times mortek didn't really have a reason to exist. Also get the fucking +1 save aura off Katakros already. I like Kat but not so much the entire army is pointed around taking him and he eats 1/4th your list from the get go.

>>osiarch
>>getting a chariot
Boner man wouldnt be very happy

>>96090268
You're also in an AoS thread.
Curious

>>96091931
>>96092039
i REALLY love the new direction of the reculsians. i was kinda bummed they did so few new units for the ruination chamber.so the version with the 2 handed maces fucks.

>>96090271
They mentioned Warcry in theSunsay preview.
Maybe it's not dead...

>>96092183
Absolutely. Reclusians fuck HARD. I've been tempted on more than one occasion to pick up a Skaventide half. I wish they'd do Ruination upgrade packs for base units so you could have Ruination Liberators or stuff like that.

>>96091656
Morathi would probably get compromised, so the civil so krethusa would probably get more political clout syhponed from the snek lady.
Lumineth would shit their pants, I dont really know anything about that.
Sylvaneth would be interesting to see how they react, maybe wanders would return back into the fold.
IDK, IDK.

>>96092171
Kat is exactly the type of person to blame it on the chariot being shit and make a better version of it, like he made the trebuchet better with the crawler's design.

>>96092183
They are pretty cool, was massively disappointed to learn there wasn't going to be two hand rules for them. Same thing with graveguard's new glaives. Not really sure how they justify something like Annihilators having two different rules but going 2hand or sword & board has no difference for some units

>>96092183
ruination has justicars in the battletome, they'll probably redo ruination judicators.

>>96092266
i feel two ways about that.

on the one hand, its a bummer that we dont have a harder hitting 2 handed mace profile that just caves in skulls all day long.

on the other hand, GW is notoriously bad at balancing 2 different but similar profiles, case in point the very similar annihilators and annihilators with grandhammers, the grandhammers were just far and away the best choice for a very long time, dealing something like 3 or 4 times as much damage as the shield version and only trading a point of save and a few extra points for that. they had to drop shield annihilators points like 8 times before they finally started to show up in lists, and even then the 2 hander version was still much more popular.

so like, i would love different profiles for things like maces vs axes, swords vs spears, etc, but at the same time i also dont know if i trust this team to write even remotely comparable warscrolls, usually one is just much MUCH worse completely arbitrarily.

>>96092183
>>96092197
Huh, didn't even know they had a mace option, looks pretty good. Only ever seen them with the shielder variant.
I gotta say thunderstrike as a whole was definitely the right choice for stormies. Fatcast have a certain art-deco charm to them but damn do they look like chumps compared to the new guys. They also look a whole lot less like marines nowadays which is nice.

>>96092266
>Not really sure how they justify something like Annihilators having two different rules but going 2hand or sword & board has no difference for some units
GW keeps flip flopping between:
>People should be able to model whatever they think is coolest
>People should have their taste in weapons reflect in the rules.
There also the issue >>96092292 mentioned, where people just go online and ask which weapons have been mathed to be the best.

weapon options mattered more in warcry than 3e.

man the aftermarket on AoS models ain't great. I got halfway through the Serapohn Spearhead and decided I don't want to continue on with it. I tried to sell it on Facebook for half MSRP and nobody's biting.

Painting progress. Post your models

>>96092565
Tried doing the same with my warriors of chaos army desu. Minis don’t really have much value.

>>96092575
Today is assembly day. Some MEAN seams on the fincarnate.

>>96092565
You're lucky, our eBay is fucked, it's cheaper buying brand new

>>96092588
40k stuff sells easy, just price it low and somebody'll snap it up.

AoS is a lot cheaper already, and not as big, so the market really isn't very strong

>>96092646
That looks like a miserable process to clear the mouldlines

>>96093349
It's been a task. Using my tamiya extra thin to just melt them off.

Still upset that GW didnt make a generic vampire multi-kit that can represent multiple bloodlines, or at least a generic vyrkos model.

>>96093357
they literally did exactly that

>>96093405
I will now dedicate myself to underworlds, I kneel.

Hey, is this leak of new Cities of Sigmar miniatures true or already debunked?

>>96093479
That is more models than armies that are in the edition launch box get. A big wave for an existing army is like, 7 kits. That "leak" shows like 15 new kits. It's totally bogus

>>96093479
yeah I'm totally sure they're getting 15 new units.

>>96093479
If they've got the book then they should post the pictures that have the new models.

>>96093479
also worth noting that Battletomes have all the heroes in front but that has heroes and units all mixed up

>>96093580
It looks to me to be sorted by Humans > Non-Humans > Book Characters > Mandated Terrain pieces
Which iirc is sort of how the last book did it.

Ooohh, i see. Thanks for the responses. It would be cool see some models of the list (Avatar of the Thunder God sounds so cool and goes with Underworld's Brethren of the Bolt)

>>96093479
>15 units
The beautiful thing is that they will all be black and led by women of color.

>>96093614
if you don't like nogs in this game then quit, its not changing.

>>96093614
If that’s your fantasy then I won’t judge

>>96093627
I think it’s beautiful I’m just pushing for more Indian and ethnic inclusion in general. Right now it’s just black and white and doesn’t represent a lot of minorities properly.

>>96093638
Indians have enough representation in fantasy battle and 40K already

these khorne models lookin kinda ass ngl.

>>96093745
What is the youngest sculpt there? 5 years?

>>96093757
It’s the priest, yeah. That’s like, back in 2016.

>>96093757
age is just a number ass and kino is forever.

>>96093745
Dedicated shelf clearing box. I'm sure the rules will be strong

>>96093832
Do they even do that, they made the grand daddy of all shelf clearers and it turned out everything in it was still legal after the refresh and it was a good buy.

>>96093888
Were skaven the only models in warhammer with flails.

>>96093888
Do what? I didn't say they're remaking the basic bitvh Khorne infantry and caster. Justbthat this box is a bundle of less liked stuff.
They kept throwing in etb Banshees to random NH boxes, but nobody believed they'll do anything to them

>>96093922
Nah tons of fantasy models had/have flails. It's a generic weapon type in fantasy.

>>96093761
That's 9 years ago.

>>96093922
>>96093948
The new names WoC character has a named magical flail too.

>>96093888
They only do it with shelf warmers not in starter boxes. You don't need to discount and encourage buying via rules to sell your best selling kits

>>96093948
>>96093953
Aos needs more flails.

>>96093614
If they look like this, I welcome our Nubian queens

>>96093922
Slaughterpriest has a flail. Skull grinder has a flail. Wrathmongers have flails

>>96093961
With all the black women characters you’ve seen so far in AoS why would you have any hope they won’t make them ugly as fuck?

faggellants also have flails

It's so brutal that the anniversary of AoS was just rolled into a preview show that was going to happen anyway, and is just previewing a line that was started for TOW

>>96093922
one of my twinsouls has a flail.

>>96093939
I actually got sorrowmourn choir box years ago with the 8 banshees, now a reinforced unit is arguably the best thing in the book. Weird how everything comes around eventually.

>>96093479
Wait, this predicted the new cities spearhead name? The current one is just that

>>96083799 (OP)
Soon

>>96093963
the skullgrinder has an anvil on a chain. i dont know if you can call it a flail.

>>96093988
Yeah it's kinda sad that there is no real mention or care about 10 years of AoS and the " celebration " is based around an old fantasy army being brought into the game.

>>96094019
Why, its a sequel. Its not its own thing and never has been.

>>96094025
The continuity was only really there to onboard old fantasy players and provide a reason for fantasy kits being used in AoS. If you look at new armies they don't take inspiration from the aesthetics or lore or places of fantasy. The only reason we still have any fantasy chars being mentioned outside nagash is because AoS originals simply aren't anywhere near as popular as old fantasy favorites.

>>96093983
I like to be hopeful

>>96094033
Nagash's personal army that looks like his model isn't taking inspiration from fantasy? The whole faction of Dwarf Engineers? The whole faction of obviously Slayers? How about the army of just ass high elves 2.0? The only even arguably somewhat original army whatsoever is IDK and they were literally created by Teclis. The reason we have fantasy chars mentioned is because they're still around, in the damn game leading factions of shit they personally made. The fucking game is named after a fantasy character.

>>96094064
Outside of Nagash those aren’t the same characters. Fantasy sigmar was a barbarian king of legend. AoS sigmar is a god. They aren’t the same character despite sharing the same name. Almost all AoS characters are their own new AoS thing and only share names with old characters for the brand recognition purposes.

>>96094069
No they literally are the same characters. They only aren't in your retard subjective argument.

>>96094081
They aren’t in any way but name but ok.

>>96094089
They have the same name because are the same characters idiot.

>>96094097
Yeah in the same way that all people who share the same name are the same characters. Names aren’t important, their traits/actual character is what defines someone. They are not the same characters.

>>96093479
long debunked

>>96094107
Yes, they literally are, they reference their old world selves too.

>>96093997
no, it's not

>>96094339
>Fusilade-platoon
Fusil-platoon

>>96094396
Fusilade-platoon =/= Fusil-platoon
and the fake leak says fusilblade platoon, not any of the above

>>96094427
>>96093479
Am I going blind or does it kinda look like Fusilblade platoon?

>>96094396
>>96094427
>>96094456
Definitely says fusilblade platoon
Kind of odd that they got it so close to the actual name. Could be a coincidence, it's not too wild of a name for a spearhead based around fusiliers, but maybe whoever made the fake leak had at least some knowledge. I learn towards the former, but you never know.

>>96094484
yeah, that's curious but it's probably a common military pairing or something

>>96094925
when was the last time the rumor engine was used to show something actually exciting?

>>96094925
Looks khorny, how old is the 40k kharn model ?
>>96094939
What, you don't like shots of smoke puffs and tactical rocks ?

>>96094925
Wild guess: Nighthaunt

>>96094484
I think it’s just an easy assumption, a lot of the things in the fake leak are clearly done by someone who knows their shit about the lore. The second spearhead was obviously going to have fusiliers in it, it’s not too hard to throw that name on it when they’re already called platoons sometimes in newer fluff

>>96093479
Non-Humans are leaving. This edition is a devoted refresh alongside a stank/warwagon.

>>96091262
I’m eternally impressed how /tg/ could turn any idea into the worst thing you’ve ever heard

BRO WE'RE DOING MURDER WITH FLOWCHARTS NOW

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0tefbjnw/revolutionise-carnage-and-slaughter-with-new-blades-of-khorne-battle-traits/

>>96094939
Rumor Engine hype died as soon as pity hero releases became commonplace. Used to be you could use them to predict new armies and major updates, now that we know it's a 90% chance to be three rumor engines from a random foot hero the hype is dead.

>>96095173
>no red pen
fake nice work anon

>>96095162
>MURDER WITH FLOWCHARTS
Very on brand for BoK

>>96095179
It's not mine, I just thought it was a nice drawing. And it reminded me of Grotus & Mulch.

>>96095162
Seems interesting enough, always nice to get some choices when it comes to army abilities

>>96095173
very nice if that's your work

>>96093922

>>96095162
The new Murderlust certainly isn't bad, but I can't help but miss the old one. Also hope we'll still have access to some form of auto-unbind. Divine Scorn is funny, especially because it also affects priests, but it's not the same as going "fucking nope, nerd" when someone tries to get clever with spellcasting.

>>96095137
They're elite demigods, the best of the best, and 20ppm

>>96095162

>bunch of passive abilities

I hate it, khorne is no longer a toolbox utility army, instead it's a ramp up playstyle.

>>96095349
>demigods
No, they're not. Stormcast are human+ in physical ability, and form a standing army. Their actual major advantage is that they can be recycled nearly infinitely, negating the advantage Chaos had over the old world where they eventually just overwhelmed everyone through their endlessly respawning numbers.

>>96094925
Order of Azyr zealots lol

>>96095162
At the absolute very least it's a departure from the index. Are we finally getting actual non ctrl c ctrl v battletomes ?

>>96095406
I feel like this is actually reasonably likely. It's very plain for Chaos standards, not that it's completely ruled out but it's not unfitting for flaggelants at all.

>>96095408
I think a lot of battle traits are being being overhauled this edition.
Your scrolls will either be unchanged or made worse with no point drops

>>96095443
>I think a lot of battle traits are being being overhauled this edition
Considering most of the battle traits as we know them date back to 2E it was about time. 3E was better than 4E overall, but the copy-pasted battletomes with copy-pasted art, copy-pasted covers and copy pasted battle traits were not a strong point for the edition.

Fiction

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/vvzwamdh/chronicles-of-ruin-last-chances/

>>96095515
I don't care after the Dawnbringers Bael-Grimnir tease that evidently won't happen until next edition

>>96095697
>>96095697
>>96095697