>Previous thread:
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>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>TQ
If you were allowed to play with only one ruleset for the next year, which one would you choose?

>TQ

I think I'd just play OPR with the advanced rules. Not the best wargame, but I could use all of my models and even play larger games smoothly.

>TQ
Forbidden Psalm because I play the campaign with my kid and the rules are so simple you can play any skirmish scenario with it. Here‘s Vriprix, the mad wizard

>>96093982 (OP)
I already only play MESBG, but if given the chance to try something new then Oathmark.

What's the best game for playing with small squads of futuristic/near-future operators? No need for campaign rules or narrative scenarios, I need some good old one-stand pitched battle action.

>>96093982 (OP)
>TQ: Five Parsecs
Reason: I can play it on my own if needed, but it can, despite solo focus, also played with others. Random tables will keep it interesting enough and the setting is generic enough to allow all sorts of miniatures.

Reposting for ID please

Scoured the archive and can't find myself mentioning them

Anons, what would be the best base for a game about a Mage, his henchmen and summons? Not frostgrave.

>>96094585
Unironically browse the 28slop.
Deth Wizards, Verrotwood, Arkanum - there are tons of them but I don't think any of them is popular enough to get a decent recommendation.

>>96093982 (OP)
>TQ
Mutant Chronicles: Warzone, any edition, they're all good in their own ways and what they're trying to achieve.

>>96094432
I can only think of Zona Alfa.

>>96094668
Verrotwood was shit, cool art project, but as a game, wishy washy. Don't know abotu the other two, but 28...

>>96094083
I like him.

>>96094083
Cool wizard anon

>TQ

Maybe fistful of lead because I can use it with anything

>>96094585
Necropolis28

>>96095230
>>96095258
Thanks, here‘s the real Vriprix.

Hasslefree folded and got dissolved by the UK tax agency but the owners registered a new company not long ago, probably in an act of transferring assets over before the debtors take hold of masters and molds.

Website is gone, Owner is too busy streaming CoD and begging for money in his #sickstream 12 hours every day rather than packing KS boxes and sending it to the people who gave him their money. Make sure you check in on him on twitch and let him know if you are still waiting on your shit.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/420/795507.page

>>96094582
Bottom two might be forge of ice. Can’t see them in the catalogue but the style is right. Or maybe lucid eye

>>96095462
>Shounds like anything but Hasshlefree

>>96095462
Fucking Dameon, a textbook case of never hiring a chronically ill cripple to work your business.

>>96095363
Oh look. He's got a little friend he carries around.

>>96095462
Why were Kev White sculpts the only good thing about this company?

>>96095462
Interesting thread, much like Black Tree Design UK I would never place an order with Hasslefree. I have no idea why anyone would, they must need their little treats so badly.

I didn't realise Archon Studio was just a full reboot of Prodos Games as mentioned in that thread. I guess things worked out this time.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1908423/prodos-archon-companies-house

As someone here in 2017 points out, only to instantly be told to "let go of it" by a person replying. I really would put these people up against a wall.

>>96095812
>only to instantly be told to "let go of it" by a person replying.
Limp-wristed reddit culture that is spread by americans beeping an *&$%-ing swear words left and right, creating an advertising friendly culture of weak men with no gut for the least amount of conflict in their lives. Jokes on them, I'm fucking their daughters who are young enough to be my own, and they all scream 'daddy dady' when you my balls are slapping up against them doggy style.

Weak men mage hard times. I hope the alphabetsoup-ally HF faggot floats up like a goldfish soon, so that someone can claim their range on the cheap.

>>96095944
Well at least you're being completely normal about it mate.

>>96095363
SOVL mages.>>96094083
>>96095351
I will look at it, but is there a reason so many necromantic games?

>>96096658
>I will look at it, but is there a reason so many necromantic games?
Goth pussy.

>>96095944
Brother, I don't know what you're on about but I think you need professional help.

>we want the OOOH STEP ON ME MOMMY -audience

>>96098063
Rumbleslam is still around?

>>96094432
Asymmetric Warfare

>>96093982 (OP)
>TQ
Asymmetric Warfare

>>96098107
Never heard of it.

>>96098073
When your niche is sexy wrestling ladies and no one else does them you get to stay alive.

>>96094582
Northwest Miniatures, from their Sleeztak range

>>96098063
Oh shit, this real? I didn't care for gnoll and trash rat team, but this is nice. What team is she, castle?

>>96094093
Oathmark is a pretty big downgrade from MESBG, and I'm a notorious GW hater

>>96095944
Meds

>>96098114
Now you have

>>96093982 (OP)
>If you were allowed to play with only one ruleset for the next year, which one would you choose?
This is Not a Test, but it'd be close.

>>96094432
That's exactly what Mercs, Asymmetric Warfare/Spectre 2.0, Infinity, Reality's Edge, and several other games all do. It depends on how "realistic" versus "futuristic" you want to skew.
Infinity is very gamist and deep into cyberpunk land. It's exclusively PvP and very honed for a competitive tournament environment, not so much good for making your own scenarios.
Reality's Edge is still cyberpunk with options to ground it. It's more of a Shadowrun kind of thing than Ghost in the Shell, with both sides buying crews to accomplish objective-based missions and heavy use of non-combatants as both terrain and objectives. For my money it's the best raw battle game out of the bunch, especially with some of the funnier scenarios.
MERCs is less cyberpunk and you have semi-fixed teams (plus the game is sorta dead as shit). Rules are solid and simple.
Asymm/Spectre is a 10-minutes-in-the-future game with a much more loosey-goosey approach. As the name suggest it's designed to let imbalanced teams meet on even footing. It's still fun with small units of operators taking each other on - just be aware that it will be *extremely* lethal and adding vehicles to the mix escalates the violence much further. Most modern skirmish games aren't actively updating to take the stuff we've learned from the current Caucasus and MENA situations into account. Asymmetric/SPECTRE is.
If you want something more basic and you're willing to hack your own unit stats, then most pulp systems (7TV, fistful of lead, etc) can handle simple operator-on-operator combat while not being quite so deadly

>someone recc'd Zona Alfa
Zona Alfa is a Cold War game with severe mechanical problems. It's also explicitly narrative.

>>96098229
Asymmetric/Spectre is really only extremely lethal if you play like a tard. It's very much designed to play like real life gun fights, heavily benefitting from cover, laying down suppressive fire or throwing smoke before moving in the open. Enemies in buildings are VERY hard to dislodge via CQB unless you fill the building with frags and flash grenades before entering. If you treat it like real life, ie. if I run out in the open while being shot at I'm going to die, you will do a lot better

Terrible OP pic, I skip past it in the catalogue very easily

>>96096658
What other necromancer games are there?

>>96099063
>He doesn't ctrl+f '/awg/'
Skill issue.

Biblically accurate angels for Carnevale

>>96098229
nta, Reality's and Asymm sounds interesting

>>96098229
I don't have a lot of moderns, my other recommendation was gonna be Heroic! but that's literally just MESBG with d10s the guy forgot to add cavalry rules to.

>>96095462
Well that sucks. They had some interesting stuff.

>>96094582
Found it!!!

Carnage (1998) by Holistic Designs

These are Heptars

>>96094083
where'd u get that wizard? he's the quintessential "wizard"

>>96100820

>>96100575
Nah fuck em, I'm tired of wargame/miniature companies being ran by bumbling fools, I wish the owner went bankrupt or to prison

>>96100928
Don't care if they sold crack to kids, they still had some models I liked and would've liked to buy more of.

>>96101138
I JUST WANT TO CONSOOM!!!

>>96098356
I mean lethal more in the sense of
>once a weapon makes contact with you, you're likely fucked
rather than just
>everyone dies in two turns
A truck bomb going off clears half the table, and a Ma Deuce is a magic trouser-browning wand for anyone on the table.

>>96101199
God forbid an anon enjoys some sculpts.

>>96101199
0/10.

Khador is getting goats.

>>96101255
Oh yeah it's fairly true. I love the mechanics of the various degrees of wounding and bleeding out, and that you can spend several turns trying to stabilize a critically wounded guy just to have him die anyways, or some times he's able to get back to his knee and fire his weapon again

3d printer chaps...
>how are the smaller scales in resin? I mean stls designed for 15mm, 10mm, 6mm in mind?

>>96101486
idk, I don't own a printer

>>96101504
But the question wasn't aimed at you.

>>96098356
>>96098229
speaking of these (spectre 2.0, assymetrical, and zona alfa) does anyone have the pdf's? ive checked here hwg and the trove thread and was only able to find the older edition of spectre and nothing else

>>96101269
This is the Old Umbrey set I was most looking forward to, the other two being just character heavy felt really anemic. Wonder how much longer till it actually releases though.

Well gives me time to paint the vs box at least.

>>96101486
ive only dabbled a bit with resin printing (dont really have the space for it) but it mostly comes down to 3 things, the quality of the stl, the resin you use, and how good your printer is.
Primary bottle neck will be the printer, but even with the cheapest printer you can reasonably do some 15mm stuff, it just depends on the quality of the stl maker (something like forest dragon's minis are gonna be a super quick and easy process but other stl makers can have some pretty terrible supports or other things along those lines)
10mm might be fine on most printers, and 6mm you probably need a high end printer to not lose too much detail

Tried out brutality
its fun
Heres one of my warbands, The fight bitches.

>>96101654
In a co-op game, my elves and friends face down a behemoth
Pictured: Slippy Pete survived a charge from a rampaging Lamasu

>>96101661
Some terrain being painted

>>96101621
Then why did you ask me

>>96101627
I have the first two, I can upload tomorrow, I'm laying in bed so won't do it now

>>96101686
hey fair enough anon, much appreciated if/when you do.

>>96101627
Zona Alfa is in the Osprey trove. The current FAQ/errata are buried somewhere in their abomination of a Facebook page and I can't be arsed.
Asymmetrical Warfare is essentially Spectre2 with some minor extra rules. The original company let the rules writer go so they could do Spectre 3 as something closer to Warhammer 2k, and he retained copyright but not the trademarks. Most of the stuff printed for Spectre2 is compatible with minimal work.
There's a bunch of supplemental SPECTRE 2 material that may not be in the trove, like the rules for John Wick, zombies and the Predator. Also jungle fighting instead of the assumed desert/urban/cropland setup in the original game.

>>96101661
>>96101654
I do love Brutality, it's some good old-fashioned retarded fun

>>96101302
The bleeding mechanics do a really good job of organically keeping high-tier operator players invested in their casualties while milita are perfectly happy letting a dozen gutshot berks die in an alley. It's one of the little things I like about the system.

>>96101899
>I do love Brutality, it's some good old-fashioned retarded fun
Its such a silly setting, its the fun of being a kid and having your cowboys fighting spacemen

>>96101628
August 28th is the slotted release date.

The Strix is still my favorite beast sculpt out of the army, but yeah, the core set is more of what I've been wanting out of the army.

Gentlamen, this is it. We reached the peak.

>>96102199
They'll probably be better quality than WGA minutemen, but they're Spanish. . . .

>>96100845
Westfalia miniatures

>>96102199
A little sweet treat for both the Napoleonic and Turnip28 crowds, very nice.

>>96102199
Nice, seems to be a great deal for Sludge.

>>96102259
Literally just swap hats for tricorns.

>>96102259
Mix and match both sets for the best results I guess. It's nice to see both releases, and the WGA set seems to be leagues ahead of the ancient WGF set warlord sells.

>>96101666
these seem familiar
where are they from?

>>96102199
Perries? Might round out my peninsular forces

James of Midgard fame did a good job on those orcs

https://youtu.be/y7GgU5sznd0?feature=shared

>>96102324
Buy an add.

>>96102324
Yeah they're pretty good looking. Never tried to paint 10mm. I do have some 15mm soviets I intended to use for Zona Alpha, though, maybe I should try getting on with them.

>>96102339
I find 15mm easier to paint in general

What are some zombies? Only need 10-12.

>>96102430
WGA and Mantic have hard plastic ones. If you need only 12 just check Facebook trading groups for single sprues.

>>96098115

This. They're also doing vampire wrestler parodies of Spike and Midget David Boreanas as well.

>>96098073
>>96098063
You just can't say no to their minis even if you have no one to play with. It's a shame that the casting quality is so inconsistent tho.

>>96102682
>You just can't say no to their rainbow shit
Or what, are you gonna label me a homophobe? I'm fine with it.

>>96102957
Rainbow isn't even homosexual.

>>96102998
But posting a ranbowized logo during/just after the homomonth has a definite political marketing purpose in mind, and said purpose and its enablers will not get my money unless I have no other options.

>>96103009
I like homos

>>96103009
Meds

>>96101666
Nice!
The roof on the left feels a little Pizza Hut in red.

>>96102324

>>96103278
Cute lads

>>96103302
Don't give him the (You)'s he's so pathetically after.

>>96103305
I d c I like Moggsy
He is a good hobbyist and a goodlad and /ourhomo/
Midgard genuinely has some new ideas
He's a good painter and kitbasher
Unlike anon whose arse remains unloved

>>96103278
Like clockwork lmao

>>96103009
You see it's a joke where you have Ricardo Milos knights and their subhuman manlet servants. Granted I've not played the human and goblin side of the team, only the vampires and their simp servants (who one day will be the vampires and make their thralls go through humiliation rituals, just gotta 9/7 grind champ. Promise!)

Did Para Bellum announce a release date for Weaver Courts? I really like the bugmen

>>96103456
Was it not september, or was that the original expected announcement date?

>>96103434
Does anyone unironically spend money on this gay fag shit?

Is there anyone around who makes non-humanoid aliens in 28mm, ideally for cheap? (by that I mean well under 5$ per mini)
These came from the board game Endure the Stars. There's a buttload of minis in this game, sadly they suffer from the identical ballerina syndrome. Pic related are all of the unique poses in this game.
I'm considering using a heat gun to try to change the pose for a few more of them, so I have enough units for a Stargrave team, at least. I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not.

>>96103648
What are those grey guys in the back, out of focus?

>>96101486
They're fine. Most resin printers within the last 5 years can handle it. The issue comes down to model quality and print bed size. Models designed in those scales print fine, 28mm scaled down do not. I recommend scaling up 10mm to 15mm, the models are sturdier. Print bed size determines how much you can print at once, the bigger the bed the more yoi can print.
I've printed several warmaster and epic armies, and the only issue I ran into was using too brittle of a resin and removing supports. They have ABS-like resin now which fixes the first problem, and the second comes down to unnecessary support placement and experience.

>>96098229
How do Reality's Edge compare with This is Not a Test? I know it's the same designer and roughly the same system, but if I were to pick only one of the two, to be used with whatever miniatures I have, which one should it be?
Are there stuff that only one of these games represents and not the other?

>>96103635
Yeah, it's hilarious and fun to play.

>>96103635

Looking for a fantasy massive battle system in the epic scale. Is anything like that currently supported?

>>96104171
Fuck man new epic is like 8mm, fantasy minis generally dont go below 10 mm which has a ton of support due to Warmaster.
I know you can go that small with Hordes of the Things, its scale neutral.

>>96104171
>currently supported
None that I know of but other than netEA which still gets updated and all of it's spin offs I've heard of Horizon Wars. It's not currently supported but I've heard good things about it. The pdfs should be in the sharethread.

>>96104202
The scale of new epic actually is 8mm. I don't mind it too much, 6mm really is tiny for infantry but it'd be nice if it was a round 10-15mm or something. I guess it's fine.

>>96103682
Looks like Frostgrave cultists kitbashed with rifle arms. Many such cases.

>>96104171
>>96104230
Argatoria maybe?

How would you approach damage in a jousting type of game - ie less lethal warfare practice? I was thinking about doing something with steampunk mechs ala Dragonmech, but a lot of what makes mech and naval games interesting is the gradual loss of systems as battle damage is incurred.

>>96104314
GW arms hands and especially guns are so retarded and comically large. I get in the 1980s when they had sculpting limitations, but the fact they still do it is laughably. It's so peculiar how grown men are obsessed with this child's action figure Fischer Price toy art style

>>96104171
Depends what you mean by support.
>balanced/regularly fixes broken shit
Warmaster Revolution, complete ranges with super nice 3d files, gets yearly balance updates.
>I need a constant IV drip of new releases
then no.

>>96104409
Probably something like the combat in En Garde, or moonstone even, where you both play cards without the other knowing what your move will be. For jousting you can allocate a certain amount of points into attack or defense and also maybe there could be some ideas of a rock/paper/scissors system in regards to where you aimed your lance vs the opponent. Idk I'm just throwing out ideas

>>96104413
Its called Nostalgia Anon. If you had figures with those proportions as a child, you would still have fond memoires towards them. Besides, its silly space soldiers, why should they look realistic?
Here are some FG Cultists with Stargrave guns, probably the most common and easiest conversion on that matter.

>>96104413
Post models

>>96101899
WHERE can I find the zombie and jungle fighting supplement??? I've just scoured the Internet and cannot find them anywhere. I HATE when companies remove older stuff from their website. I need the zombie one so bad, I've been wanting to play zombie Spectre for so long

>>96104466
It's called grow up.

>>96104440
I'm thinking a first-to-3 hits, but there's a chance to inflict component damage

>>96104711
To me that just sounds like dice roll offs (boring)

>>96104801
I agree, that's the problem. That's why I wanted to ask, because I think it's hard to balance the sports wargame and mech wargame aspects.

>>96104833
I think this anon >>96104440
is a long the right tracts and you should look into those two games for inspiration. Notably their combat systems are interactive instead of random chance based like a dice roll off.

>>96104593
Wait, Spectre has zombie fighting rules? Sign me up!

>>96104413
>thinks people are 'obsessed' because of the proportions
People are nostalgic for the aesthetics, not for the proportions.

>>96103682
>>96104314
Yeah, they are kitbashed Frostgrave cultists
The guns come from a Warlord panzergrenader kit

>>96104973
Proportions are an important part of aesthetics.

>>96104171
There's Mayhem!, by that guy who did Rogue Planet.
I have it, although I did read it yet.

>>96105015
But silly aesthetics are charming and fun.

>>96105176
For children, yes. I can see why modern "men" like things meant for children when you consider pic related

>millenial can‘t into heroic scale

>>96105211
you are on the thread about playing with little dolls and pretend war on dice rolls

>>96105211
Makes zero sense if you think about it, because silly looking miniatures were well liked by adults in the 80s already.

>>96105274
Pretending he's a Serious Adult with Serious Business is the only pleasure he can get in life.

>>96105176
I can't argue that. But if they're there for the silly charming aesthetic they're there for the silly proportions and probably silly paint jobs.

>>96105233
>heroic scale
Heroes scale is a cope. Is you like goofy just admit you like goofy.
>>96105211
>That pic
Natties on suicidal watch

>>96105398
I think he's arguing that mature adults in the '80s would have chosen more realistic proportions if it were an option.
Which holds true now since most people are moving away from the goofy gorilla look, if they can.

>>96103720
It's a lot smaller in scope since it's a one book Osprey affair. Every gang has the same theme as high tech edgerunner types. The gang boss is a modifier added to a regular unit rather than a unique statline. Hacking is obviously a big deal and each team has a long range "shadow backer" who exists on the board as a cyber ghost. TnT has a lot of expansions that let it shift its post-apocalypse around with different thematic elements, but Reality's Edge is just cyberpunk. Which is fine of course, but it is a difference.

>>96105432
By upscaling everything to 35mm or larger, with the elegance of a human character being roughly a 1 inch cube by volume completely lost.

>>96105474
Oh, and it also has bystanders which is an interesting game feature since your dudes can try to blend into the crowds.

>>96102314
Some are corvis games, the middle building is a modular set

>>96101899
Do you prefer GWAR over Brutality? Or does it scratch different itches?

Holy shit, they absolutely BUTCHERED Konflict 47

>>96106120
>the sterilized inoffensive Japan flag instead of the Imperial Japanese army rising sun flag
Such cowards

>>96106120
This looks really really bad. Like the OPR not!Tau shit

>>96106120
>>96106161
>>96106176
Calm your horses, thats just old Johns personal minis, and not new Japanese for K47. its the old ones, painted badly by a fat bong boomer, nothing more.

>>96103720
>Is there stuff one game represents and not the other?
Yeah, a lot.
RE has a very limited unit roster, all cyberpunk tropes. Borgs, hackers, virtual idols, that sort of thing. Most of your units are temporary hires for individual jobs, and you have a rotating roster even with permahires. RE does have some interesting additional rules for manipulating civilians and crowds in urban environments. Different equipment lists, of course, and most of the RE scenarios are based around simultaneous physical and cyberspace combat with digital avatars rtrying to hack objectives

TNT is post-apocalyptic. The sci-fi weapons are prone to breaking down. All the warbands are based on post-apoc tropes. There's a much, much broader selection of character types, larger warbands, and all of your crew is persistent rather than the mix of leader, permanent, and temp workers in RE. Obviously, no special rules for manipulating bystanders or cyberspace. Wandering monsters are more frequent and usually actual monsters. 1e has supplements for critter design, kaiju, even a fan-made/officially-published supplement for player settlements and forts
Likewise there's more equipment, mutations (which you can do a lot of heavy lifting with for aliens) and psychics. It's balanced assuming that high-tech stuff will break down and has limited rarity. If you do use it for generic sci-fi it's best to bump the price of all the Artifact equipment by ~15%.

If you want something super sci-fi, there's another fa/tg/uy's game more like Blame!, called "Zone Raiders". You build a settlement and do missions to build it up, the warbands are hired based on a tech tree. Heavily designed around traversing dense, vertical terrain like Carnevale, and you have to physically extract downed warband members for extra tension. IME letting players always choose secondary objectives means they constantly specialize in one of them; other than that, pretty solid. Less variety than TNT, more than RE

I got miniatures from Heroes of Might and Magic board game All In. All aside from the ones usable on main game board (heroes, castles). I don't want them to just gather dust, so I was thinking, I could use them with some miniature agnostic wargame rules. Any ideas what I could use them with? I also got battlefield board, but without hero components, unit and spell cards, I can't exactly play that mode.

>>96103720
>>96107249 (cont.)
There's also Brutality Skirmish if you *really* want to just throw whatever the fuck you have at a table and go to town. Profiles are extremely abstract - there's functionally no difference between a werewolf and a cyborg or a Brick-type superhero - but that makes it fast to set up and adjucate. and it's still a better core system than OPR
>>96106002
Butality is a very simple smash-and-bash game with very few assumptions. You basically just throw stats at a random handful of models. WarEngine - and GWAR by extension - has a more involved build process. You have to be willing to feel stuff out as you go and test them out a few times.

>>96104947
>>96104593
Lemme make sure they're clean, I'll get them off my e-reader for newvola later.

>>96107408
Send me one of each then ask again.

>>96093982 (OP)
Where are the models in OP's pic related from?

>>96107467
Crooked Dice lad

>>96107439
>Lemme make sure they're clean, I'll get them off my e-reader for newvola later
This will make my week, pls deliver

>>96107439
>>96104947
>>96104593
Uploaded it all in a zip.
>FAQ/errata 2019
>Points Costs for unit building (the game was originally pointsless)
>Jungle Rules
>Baba Yaga (John Wick)
>The Visitor (a Grey on the loose and starting shit)
>Zombie rules and the Zombie Extraction scenario
>The Hunter (Predator, uses the Jungle fighting rules for obvious reasons)

>Malifaux models keep looking worse and worse
>except the overpriced limited seasonal ones which keep getting better
It feels like they have one good sculptor left but he got sick of the original aesthetic so he's only working on the seasonals and all the main stuff is made by interns

>>96107593
OK, but where IS the zip?

>>96107652
Newvola. If you don't know what that is, check the sharethread. Be aware that there's only one dude and he manually checks files before moving them into the main account, so it might be an hour, or it might be a day or two.

>>96107439
You know, you really are my favorite poster here. Would you recommend a hard copy of Warlord of Erehwon for 15€ or is there better fantasy skirmish toolbox alternatives?

>>96107751
>Newvola.
Thanks a bunch!

>>96107633
I love those abominations

also here's the video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhoO-Xy_PU&t=1s

>>96100820
Nice find, 96 figures per box... Not bad for a 60 on the eBay, now I have more unpainted plastic.

>>96107751
>new vola
He's a Russian data farmer taking all your information

>>96107593
Holy shit... Absolute lad

>>96106368
its like clockwork, all the faggots who say they actually care about old k47 are just retards jumping on a hate bandwaggon since its getting a new edition
Theres ABSOLUTELY things to dislike or complain about new k47, but this is just proving that most of you fucks in here dont modelor play games, much less even reading through rulebooks or even just fucking looking at models

>>96107593
Much appreciated anon. Your efforts don't go to waste, I will 100% be playing some of these

>>96108366
It doesn't seem all that bad. Probabaly a nobrainer if you're into 40k or Bolt Action. I'm more a WW1 (and I just mean WW1, not spooky WW1) guy.

The Bolt Action mechanics are simply good. It's a good pickup game. Did they say something about adopting Blackpowder for some WW1 goodness a while back? I'm unsure

Do you like my latest addition to the pile of shame?

>>96109331
I had these on my shelf for years before finally getting around to painting them

>>96109331
They should be easy to paint tho

>>96107781
For under $20? Sure, it's worth it. Check the errata up on Rick's site (thisgaminglife), he's added/tweaked a bunch of lists, given his rough points formulas, and fixed some rules issues. All the errata are in the second printing but not the other army lists.

>>96109331

>>96109350
With the way things are looking, the pile of shame is looking more and more like a backup plan.
Not financially, more like a "this is a you'll have when you go back home" and it's gonna be annoying to find the books translated to Spanish rather than what Europeans speak.

>>96109796
Nigga what the hell are you talking about

>>96109830
Hoarding just in case.

>>96109331
ultra comfy

>>96109350
Looking good

>>96109400
It’s about getting to it. I have a list of projects to paint.

>>96109838
In case of what

>>96110497
I have to go back to my home country, where at best there's gonna one store in the D.F. and no one plays tabletop.

Rolling up characters in Maid has made want to kitbash them. Anyone know a good source for maid bodies that could work as a base? Or am I stuck looking at 3d prints.

>>96110567
Have you tried dolls?

>>96108899
They're moving away from 'WW2 armies with 1-2 weird units' which is the entire point of K47, obviously people are annoyed. The models we've seen look less like a Wolfenstein at home aesthetic, Weird War 2 fans don't generally want a lame version of 40k.

>>96108366
There is no 'bandwagon'. People are just seeing the crap Warlord showed and responding negativity.

>>96110664
Your "entire point" was shit. It looked like a cheap way to shove some weird minis they got from clockwork goblin onto their BA players. It's lame and pretty unoriginal. Which is why the game never got any real interest or success.
Now they try to do it properly: with focus on weird units, in plastic.

>>96108366
It really is funny. I did never play K47 and yet recognised the old Japanese power armour and the tank immediately. But it's far more easy to scream about warlord being bad than to think for a second.
The Italian and Japanese power armour guys were among the best minis they had for K47, and while I'm not into K47 at all, I think I would be tempted to get a box of those if they would make them in plastic.

>>96110747
>doing it properly is abandoning WW2 for watered down 40k crap.

A weird war game should look like WW2 with a few weird things.

>>96110883
Dust did it right, K47 was just Bolt Action with a few extra metal units.

>>96103009
>But posting a ranbowized logo during/just after the homomonth has a definite political marketing purpose in mind
>While the logo is rainbow by design since forever
Most sane American btw.

>>96110618
A doll can't properly replicate a sexy rabbit demon girl pretending to be a miko armed with hand-grenades that's actually incompetent at her job.

>>96105634
>corvis games
right, thanks

>>96110883
>A weird war game should look like WW2 with a few weird things.
What's even the point? Just call it alt-history by that point. Weird war should get properly weird. Strains my versimilitude less than the war going on longer for no good reason.

>>96110883
Would you like to show us your K47 army? You must have loved the first version of that game.

But you are in the minority with your statement i believe, because otherwise the game would have been way more popular than it actually was. Well, the high prices of the licensed metal models Warlord sold for the game did not help of course.

>>96109331
Are there rules for the animals in any WLG games or are they just for looks?

>>96110567
>>96111048
My dude the only wargame-scale maid models are ancient 25mm sculpts from "gentleman's collectibles" lines of the 1990s and earlier, or 3DP. Good luck navigating some senile actual-ass boomer's website trying to parse out grainy-as-fuck censored digital photographs of polaroids he took of his photocopied Salute flyer from 1993. All so you can send him a certified check by snail mail.
>miko with hand grenades
I mean.. that's more doable. The rabbit demon part not so much.

>>96107439
>>96107249
>Zone Raiders
>Brutality
Wait... these both use the same engine as TNT?!

>>96111201
I don’t play WLG games so not sure. I’ll probably use them as moving objectives in OPR and space weirdos. At this point I rarely play games, I just enjoy the hobby side and decorate my office with minis.

>>96111159
The point is so historical players can buy a rulebook and a few models and play a different game. One of the Warlord shills on FB actually criticised people for wanting to be able to play two games with one army. That is the default outside of GW games.

>>96111311
No, they don't, they use different engines but do similar things that Anon might be more interested in.

>>96109331
Pile of Glory you mean, imagine how many glory points in any game will you have when you rustle that cattle.

>>96110532
Damn that's crazy, what do you do for work?

>>96110747
>do it properly
Is this bait?

>>96112036
Yes. Warlord is getting caught up in american culture war shit. Part their own doing, part the infectious nature of the participants. It brings in the worst combination of most opinionated, least involved in games, most free time to fuck about on the internet, least amount of self awareness. One side or the other gets a new flamebait every few months. The old baits never really go away but they lose interest after a bit and need something new to froth and regurgitate the same arguments onto.

>>96111353
It's just a lame cashgrab and not a proper game. It will always feel like an afterthought, which is why K47 sucked. Now they will finally give it some proper love, and a full range of units.

>>96112100
>American culture war
You mean Jewish culture war? You call it "American" culture war because only in America do some men have the spine to stand against it, meanwhile the rest of the western world has just bent over and accepted being replaced by foreigners and having their ruling elites married to literal tranny groomers

>>96112103
>shitty models that massively depart from the previous (very nice) aesthetic
>love

>>96112100
'Fucking up a Weird War game to appeal to the 40k crowd is dumb' shouldn't be a partisan issue.

>>96112169
>to appeal to the 40k crowd
Everyone tries to do this and it's so brain dead retarded. By and large, 40kucks flat out refuse to stop suckling GWs™ teet, they have no interest in playing any non-GW™ game and they never will. It's useless to try to pander to them,any other companies have tried and failed. Instead they should appeal to the people who will actually play their game, but alas..

>>96112248
Instead they have people implying you're a Nazi if you dislike the changes, i'm sure this will go well.

>>96107633
I'm still mad about Zip actively looking worse. Why resculpt him? Other than assembly being finnicky (Common to the whole range) the old one is fine. Gotta agree on the nightmare boxes though. I liked the alice in Wonderland set and cyber Alyce on a big looks great.

>>96112248
40kuck here, sorry your games are getting ruined to try appeal to us, genuinely

>>96112248
What companies tried and failed? OPR is stronger than ever.

>>96112169
It was a "very nice" aesthetic for you maybe. It looked like shit compared to stuff made by Dust Studio.
Most people did not like it, hence it was pretty dead, pretty quick.

>>96112169
Weird War games are gay, and have way less appeal to anyone than their creators think.

>>96112530
Let me hazard a theory: No one plays OPR with their minis, they use GW.

I mostly play Killteam and I want to branch out. What are some fun sci fi/ military skirmish games that only require squads? Thought about trying that Halo one or Wasteland Warfare.

>>96112248
You say that like this thread isn't basically full of people that played GW games and now play other ones.

>>96112960
This Is Not A Test is fun, it's in the same wheelhouse as Fallout. There's a new edition coming out soon that'll be easier to get into than the first one, since first edition has a fuckload of expansions. The core alone is still fun though.

>>96112960
Xenotactics is free and generic, with a dude builder and ready-made not-40k dudes.

>>96112960
Halo and Fallout are great, but i guess the appeal comes a lot from the IP itself too. If Halo means nothing to you, i dont think the game is very interesting.

>>96112960
Forbidden Psalm and Kill Sample Process, but they are rather light on rules coming from KT.

>>96112530
OPR doesn't target 40kucks, they target a very specific niche, which is former 40kucks

>>96112665
And? What other companies tried to capitalize on GW, and failed? I gave one example, and we agreed that they do it successfully. Now its your turn.

>>96112169
Show your K47 army.

>>96113384
What success? When people play OPR they do it with GW minis. OPR is a pimple on GW's gigantic ass.

>>96112990
Looks neat, but is there no more support? 2nd edition looks to have come out last year and most fo the models are sold out.

>>96113003
I couldn't seem to find the ready-made not-40k dudes. Or do you mean it's just bring any models you want?

>>96113191
That's a shame. I don't LOVE Halo I just like the asthetics of the suits and aliens. What makes it uninteresting?

>>96110883
Honestly I am kinda worried with inclusion of 40k refugee designers coming over to K47, but at same time I was already disappointed with K47 because you could tell all the interest went to designing Axis powers and there was little care for the allies side.
Coming off the high of something like Operation Darkness; a game where british paratroopers with werewolfs and a witch fight against nazi vampires with undead legion into having only half platter where best brits get are some pitbulls and tinmen... was disappointing. Doubly so when you see Ameirca and it's just basic dudes with maybe some power armor sprinkled in (that everyone already has in their arsenal) and soviets get some half-assed version of german units.

Well I'll keep my eyes on it still, as I do like what Warlord done with the Axis side and hope now that there's some movement with the game: maybe allies will get some love too.

>>96113471
I've not tried Halo (do owns it though), but I've heard nothing but praise for it's skirmish nature. Though current set-up is closer to board game than proper wargame, and the game is planned for massive overhaul in some near-distant future in order to allow things such as vehicles to be included.

>>96113471
The models are the old ones from 1st edition, 2nd is being handled by a company that's not... great about actually getting their stuff out there.
It's model agnostic anyway, the branded stuff is neat but it's not required. They even have a sidebar in the 1st edition core book for low tech "laser rifles" so wysiwyg autists can use IG models without having to equip them with the expensive and unreliable high tech laser weapons.

>>96113471
>I just like the asthetics of the suits and aliens.

Then it already is interesting to you.
But, and i dont mean that in a negative way, its "just" Deadzone (which is a great game in itself), with a Halo skin. (+ some tweaks of course).

For me it's Beyond the Gates of Antares

>>96113535
The rules are good from what i can remember from watching a battle report, but sadly the game never got any traction.

>>96113535
Antares is Warhammer 40k if it was good. Amazing game. I wish they had some generic armies instead of the proprietary stuff so I could play with what I have instead of their models

>>96113630
I haven't seen Antares, but what's stopping you from refluffing the rules or proxying, with maybe converting a few more specific models?

>>96113576
>>96113630
what makes those rules so good? just give me one or two points please, I am curious

>>96113471
>I couldn't seem to find the ready-made not-40k dudes
The section on dude building includes a load of pre-statted teams, most of which are transparently just 40k Marines, 'nids, etc. You can bring any models you want and stat them out yourself though.

>>96113926
Randomized turn sequence, similar to Bolt Action
Alternate weapon modes for your troops

>>96113865
Antares has a focus on small probes and drones that's not very common with generic scifi model lines. You can proxy these with markers and such ofc, but it doesn't look as nice.

>>96114517
>focus on small probes and drones
I'm sold.

>>96114517
>servo skulls
>tau plate drones
>flying tyranid rippers
>grots/snotlings on rickety quadrotors about to mulch the pilot the moment something goes wrong
>eldar... I guess an agrav version of those tiny wraithguard-looking bots from oldhammer?
There's definitely space for conversions or printing, depending on how autistically married you are to the Codex Ashartes.

Rate or hate my cart
I can't see a shard forcebook on here though

>>96114723
What am I looking at

>>96113003
Any idea how Xenotactics would compare to MERCS? I have some Moblots from Infinity I'd like to pair against street urchin looters and prison barge rioters. Simplicity is paramount, I don't care about parkour, but Line of Sight management through careful positionning and limited ressources is a plus.

So ironic that KINO shit like this dies immediately but K47 and their goofy ass libtard models get another shot at life

This stocky mfer looks like he walked right out of 1947, meanwhile K47 makes gay ass shit like this>>96106120

>>96115110
>>96115135
K47 hate is clearly a paid op

>>96115110
>>96115135
Go home, Parente.

>>96114979
Not familiar with MERCS. Xenotactics uses a reaction system like Infinity so LoS is vital. Also push-your-luck activation similar to Song of Blades and Heroes. It's a very simple D10 system.

>>96115273
They pay you guys? Holy shit I've been missing out. Who do I contact to get my cut?

For fuck sake

>>96116921
Fill me on some context, why are ze germans balling for the LA Lakers?

>>96116999
To promote ze spirit of ze games

>>96116921
>Triangle emblem
Gay boy squad?

>>96116921
Why do they wear purple and have the triangle badge that the Nazis made homosexuals wear in public? Is this some strange humiliation ritual?

Source for good modern zombies?

>>96117453
The Wargames Atlantic kit is pretty decent.

>>96116921
Those boys lookin zesty.

>>96117269
Stop making things up Anon, or, if you actually believe it, read some history books.
There was no yellow triangle for homosexuals in the 3rd Reich. And especially not in public. Jews had to wear a star in public.
In the camps, but not public, triangles were used to categorise prisoners:
Yellow: Jews
Pink: Gays

So you are pretty much wrong on all your points.

>>96116921
i know what the reason this is posted for is, but god fuckin damn the proportions on these stuck more than anything else
Which sucks because the fireflies are actually pretty good, and the metal exo suit germans are significantly better

>>96117809
anon most of these morons dont know anything theyre fucking talking about. If they actually knew anything about history why do you think theyd be posting what they do

>>96115110
>Immediately

Dust stayed alive for years, with several iterations. The miniatures hardly were the reason why it died over and over again. Paolo just isn't a good businessman. I am still mad he never released that promised E-100 kit in 1:48

>>96116921
Might be some ultraviolet light night camo. Vril energy is also connected to the colour purple.
But what it really is is just one of several semi-official paint schemes they posted to show the new plastics in a variety of colours, so people get an idea about how they look.
Similar to how gw sometimes posts those collages of new models in a variety of colours.

>>96116921
That looks like ass. If none of your designers cannot make ww2 supertech look good you probably shouldnt go into that niche.
>>96117578
Under which of their poorly labeled, miniscule lines can I find them?

>>96113471
>Looks neat, but is there no more support? 2nd edition looks to have come out last year and most fo the models are sold out.
It literally just shipped the first run of 2e books on Monday, they were holding on to the last of Worlds' End Games' stock in the mean time. Check the google doc in the OP for post-apoc minis, you can use pretty much anything. The game's not just model-agnostic but deliberately set up to accommodate several different universes in the army lists, or more generic trope lists.
Also Black Site is Canadian, 3D prints most of their stuff with the rest being Siocast, and ships slowly. I recommend a couple other sources.
>Copplestone's Future Wars range
Whole bunch of awesome stuff, they were most of the models in the original core book. It's available from about a dozen resellers. All-metal. Some of the best general Raider and Tribal minis on the market
>Crooked Dice
lots of 1980s military and some decent post-apoc, cops, robbers, plant mutants, robots, also the Colony 87 line of Rogue Trader inspired stuff
>Ramshackle
buncha weird muties and robots, the secondary sculptors' lines are usually more interesting than the main stuff
>Reaper
Sells animal parts for converting mutants. Lots of random but applicable shit, as usual, like the pack turtle, Super Mutants, or armadillo-man.
>Armorcast
Sells Fallout Brahmin and a whole bunch of robots, not so much with the regular humans
>Ral Partha Europe (UK)
Has some interesting minis hidden down in the bowels of the site
>EM4
Extremely cheap plastic gangers and troopers that you can kitbash with other guns
>Checkpoint Miniatures
Heads, including Fallout power armor. Animals. Some great robots and muties, as well as near-future SWAT
>Warlord
If you can find them the old Project Z survivors and SpecOps are incredible conversion fodder. Wargames Atlantic is busy cutting plastics for both but those are somewhere between a few months and a year out

>>96115110
>>96115135
>>96117829
If Paolo Parente wasn't such an utterly miserable cunt to work with, the game would have lived in its first incarnation instead of dying three or four deaths to date. And yeah, he's a terrible businessman as well.

>>96115110
The funniest part about Dust dying is Paolo Parente killed the shit out of Dust himself. Great art and miniatures doesn't mean much if you are competing with both your publisher(s) and yourself. Go skim the 15k+ comments on the Dust Operation Babylon KS if you want to watch the company crumble to... dust.
Just proof that artists need serious handlers to keep the business side stable.

>>96113471
>What makes it uninteresting?
That it's HALO. Game is essentially a skinned Deadzone, which is a fucking solid fast to play skirmish game. Can recommend.

>>96114723
>shard forcebook
Oh no, adYzyIoL#yjfyVO0Ev5lCzbuYHPdfrg

Never played with or against shard, but fortuitous timing to buy them before the price increase.

Here is FASA's 500pv demo list for comparison though:

- Prime with Impaler Spur, Energy Burst and Amplifying Lens
- 5 Concussors including 1 Fracture Cannon
- 5 Jagged including 1 Impaler Spur
- Strider
- 5 Fledglings

>>96117938
I think it's called Pulp but they only sell what, 30 different boxes? Not hard to find.

How's Conquest holding up?

Tell me about Urban War. Just ordered pic related for 10 eurobucks simply because minis look fun but is the game even worth trying?

>>96118851
Looks fun
Wanted the starter but it's siocast

>>96118840
If you put in the effort, everything holds up well enough.

Extreme amounts of onions in the miniature threads this week. I see you people think there will not be a second doxxing at one point in time. Keep it up, we will need to know who the enemy is when the time comes.

>>96118915
Meds

>>96118915
Why did you post a picture of an orgy on our blue board?

>>96119006
This reminds me, I have these two in a bag somewhere.
Did they survive the edition change?

>>96119267
He is from Zestron 9 and it's the flag of his people

>>96119272
I see, my bad for not being more accepting of his extraterrestrial culture.

>>96119288
Expect some probing questions

>>96119268
Do you need an excuse to paint evil sexy nurses?

>>96118851
Where the fuck did you find it at this pricetag? I was looking to import some from UK like two days ago and shipping price alone is this much.

>>96119450
Secondary market trading groups and apps. You would be surprised what kind of gems you can find on Facebook.

>>96119523
Yeah. Pricing for awg secondhand goods can be pretty much anything.

>>96119523
>>96119561
Indeed. Especially when someone just wants rid or doesn't really care about what they own. However when someone knows what they have, we've seen Oldhammer prices hit like £8 each per single metal Space Marine.

These days I find in-person is the king of getting stuff cheap. Not maybe exactly what you want, but stuff you won't say no to at the prices.

>>96118103
Its a shame, because now all we have left is K47, which artstyle and vehicle designs is nowhere near as good as Dusts.

>>96119600
>>96119561
If you're anywhere near Western Sydney I'm flogging a lot of 15mm and 10mm fantasy and sci fi... mostly demonworld, alternative armies, some kallistra...

>>96119665
I'm a bong but I'm actually in Sydney in a couple of weeks no joke, any 28mm sci-fi or other weird bits?

>>96119692
Nope, it's all 15mm and under I'm afraid.

>>96119692
That being said if you're around in a fortnight and change your mind, come round for a cup of tea and a slice of cake and you can have what I have listed for $300ish atm for a couple of hundred.

>>96119699
Fair lad. Anywhere /tg/ worth visiting in Sydney? Like selling second-hand and obscure stuff or just being a cool shop/club?

I think I've seen Combat Company pop up

>>96119735
Never been there but ordered stuff from there. I don't mind Good Games in Parramatta.

Personally I think if you're in Sydney you should:visit a nice old pub like the Nag's Head, the Hollywood Hotel or the Hero of Waterloo.

NSW Art Gallery and Barracks isn't bad, Bronte beach is nicer than Bondi, Botannical Gardens are lovely.

You probably have them where you are but Kinokuniya is a good book shop, check out but Red Eye Records and the Gakaxy Bookshop and Hobbyco nearby.

>>96119735
Also Better Read than Dead, Gould's Books in Newtown (make sure to stop on Enmore road for food) and Gleebooks. Never know what might pop up.

>>96119735
And if you don't have the Watermelon cake at Black Star pastry, you're fucked mate. Also have Pizza at Bar Italia in Leichardt but note it's strictly cash only. Try a stone and wood ale or a little creatures while here and go with God etc

>>96119784
>>96119797
>>96119815

Seriously lad, thank you so kindly mate this is some of the nicest advice I've had so far. Screenshotted it all, Gould's Books particularly looks like a right Aladdin's cave.

>>96119846
Yeah not bad for a westie / deranged hwg denizen
Mind how you go lad
Waverley Cemetary after Bronte
Australian War Memorial near Darlinghurst
Anything Turkish
Anything Thai
The Maltese pastizzi place on North King St
Shame you're not here when it's warmer

>>96119846
There is also a big goth alternative night next month if you like pale puss / Depeche Mode

https://events.humanitix.com/sanctuary-36-years-later

>>96120024
And if you prefer rave theree's the Abercrombie or upmarket (of goth) puss there's the Oxford Art Factory.

https://youtu.be/rD9z2ARREDU?feature=shared

>>96119971
Red Rattler is not bad if you prefer tattooed art puss (and pive music)

Don't buy any shitty souvenirs with "Australia" on them unless they are amusingly twee location based tea towels which is local tradition and will fit in your bag.

If you like bums just go to all the same places with a tighter shirt, Sydney is gay af lol

>>96119523
I score all my rulebooks on Vinted but FB is either specialist groups, so ranking from fair enough to high pricing ("yeah anon it's been out of production for few years now"), or FB market which means though luck where I live.

It's cheaper and faster for me to order some Infinity out of print minis from recasters in Ukraine than asking on a FB group sadly. Maybe I suck at this?

>>96120088
And if you get homesick, Harry's Cafe De Wheels for pie and mash with gravy and mushy peas, near the old powerhouse museum. Museum train station itself, my god. So much good deco architecture amidst the colonial sandstone. Anyway, goodnight. I love my town. The poem "William Street" sums it up.

>>96117985
>Also Black Site is Canadian
What's with all the Made in the USA stuff on their website, then?

>>96103456
Finally, they made a faction I actually dig. >>96118840
2nd new faction in a single year.

>>96117829
It died out in my area because there wasn't enough cleavage in the source material.

>>96119268
kinda yes, but not yet. They will presumably (or maybe it was even confirmed?) go into Dr Silas keyword, once that gets added. Right now they don't have rules yet and won't get them until a later unspecified date.

>>96120287
I'd love to see the design process behind the Weavers to see why it took them so long to get them out.

>>96122088
Simple: they lost the vote.

What to use to wash paint off resin miniatures?

>>96120231
Not sure what that guy is on about, they are in Waco texas. Have been to their shop personally since I up-detail some of their kits occasionally.

>>96125987
Strip paint? 3D printed UV Resin? Cast polyurethane resin?
Can't use Isopropyl on UV resins, could try something like Simple Green or Bio Strip 20 if you can get it. Bio strip 20 is pretty highly regarded but not cheap to ship across the globe. Acrylic resins are just not the greatest thing to get paint off of, for obvious reasons.

>>96118851
All I can tell you is I bought a bunch of them cus they're excellent proxies for old mutant chronicles warzone stuff. Also their mech line is cool looking.

Also does anyone know when/if warzone eternal will actually go to retail? I missed them Kickstarter forever ago

>>96126814

>>96126814
The last I heard, retailer fulfillment is after they finish the individual backers, which US is done and as of their July update, the rest is 70% done.

>>96126861
coo, thanks

>>96093982 (OP)
Any games where I can have an army + a mtg style custom deck of attacks I can use and effects I can activate?

>>96128292
Warzone: Resurrection and AVP: Unleashed. Both by Prodos games and make use of an advanced combat deck of cards for each player that can either gice some kind of equipment bonus for your own squads, apply a circumstance modifier or ability on a friendly or enemy model/squad, or apply some kind of battlefield affecting condition on the table. As well as units, weapons and characters having active abilities requiring the expenditure of resource cards(also used for the card deck). I'll post up my collected folder for you when I get home.

Anyone here played Of Armies and Hordes, or know some good batreps. Most people seem to play with heavily gridded terrain but seems to me the system would work with something a bit more naturalistically divided

>>96128446
That's perfect. Thank you anon

>>96126421
Cast resin from max mini
my much younger self dunked it into acetone and its condition is not the best. Might just throw it out.

>>96093982 (OP)
TQ Deadzone

>>96128648
91% Isopropyl Alcohol is fine then, + the same recs as above. Dettol is an option too. Don't toss it, give it some love.

>>96126814
This one looks great.
>>96126821
This one not so much.. for some reason i cant get into mechs that hold guns like a human trooper would.

>>96128606
Here we go, sorry this took so long, anon. First link is the AVP stuff, Wargame Rules and Scenarios folder is has the meat of what you want. The rest is just extras that probably have no meaning for you. DESU, this one is the best to go for if only for ease of access, there's a plethora of knock off Xenomorphs, Colonial Marines, and Predators out there in the stl sphere that you can find something to match the units on offer in the army lists.

https://mega.nz/folder/dHRmFDhT#nxotQIImpjLB48lPv3beIA

Second link here is the warzone folder, I'll link you the megapack I put together, has all the published editions and their accessories from over the years, but the one you want are the 1st and 2nd edition of Warzone: Resurrection, 2e streamlines things a little bit, more just tidying up the unit actions that can be taken, a bunch of the less popular or real edgecase actions were just dropped, alongside other adjustments and tweaks that make the gameplay a little smoother. the combat decks also change from faction specific to a more universal dual card system, 1 half of the card will have something faction specific and the other will have something that's universal. A little jarring on the transition but it ultimately made for a better mechanic, as in 1st edition all the new units introduced after initial release would add more cards and that would balloon into something quite unsustainable if things went on.

https://mega.nz/folder/QSgwTbgA#FOOzn2DMj78A-H4Lj2Vh9w

Warzone's a more difficult game to start up since going out of print, you can find models on ebay, but they're much rarer now than in years before when it was in retail and immediately after the end of license sale. There's STLs floating around on cults and telegram, but mostly the old 90s range. A lot more proxying will be in order if you wanna pick this one up. I can say that the WZR ranges will be getting scanned and disseminated soon, though ;^) I'll be back to share once that's done.

>>96128603
Ordered my copy two days ago. I'll let you know in a fortnight but in my mind it was more about "objective" zone than grid yeah. RAW it's a bit too much of them and might turn confusing or ground for arguing so I can see why people would switch to a grid. For myself I plan on using smaller units but bigger zone and see how it holds.

>>96128603
Ordered my copy two days ago. I'll let you know in a fortnight but in my mind it was more about "objective" zone than grid yeah. RAW it's a bit too much of them and might turn confusing or ground for arguing so I can see why people would switch to a grid. For myself I plan on using smaller units but bigger zone and see how it holds.

>>96126036
I was thinking of Death Ray Designs for some reason. It's because I've got too much random miniature store trivia rattling around in my skull. Speaking of which..

>>96126814
>they're excellent proxies for old mutant chronicles warzone stuff.
Well, there's a reason for that.. It's essentially the same company. They reformed after Warzone 3/Chronopia bankrupted them, most of the same sculptors and almost certainly some un-released sculpts for Warzone snuck into the Void line. Pic related still has Bauhaus Ducal Militia shoulderpads and gear, with mildly altered gun and backpack. Rhiannon is likely a Mourning Wolf hero, and there's a very blatant Valerie Duvall resculpt in the Syntha catalog. There are quite a few other little relics tucked away in the 1.0 catalog.

>>96128648
I normally use LA's Totally Awesome by default, its available at the dollar and grocery stores in the US. Works fast and simple, it's a moderately-powerful base and an unholy surfactant working in tandem. Doesn't get all enamels off but it does a hell of a job on varnish, oils, and acrylics.

>>96106120
Dude, those are the original old models. I don't even play K47 and I can tell that.

I'm looking forward to new K47. Gave my Hornet extra long MG barrels because it's meant to be an AA platform and the snub nose ones didn't make any sense for that.

>>96130946
Looks good.
You could always go all in and put a pom-pom on top, would be funny.

>>96126821
bro this looks fucking sick

How come some of the best Mantic stuff is from their very very early indie company days? It had a grimmer look more like old warhammer fantasy rulebook art then it became way more world of warcraft

>>96126814
I'm not feeling much of the rest of the line but I love that Scorpio mech.
I'm tempted to grab one too use as a peace keeper.

>>96131790
Is it any different now, or just the studio paint job?

I am going to make dioramas for different awg this is the concept for deadzone's one

warmachine so back

Antares has some amazing models, really distinct designs between factions, something for everyone. It's got the generic mass effect/ power armour faction, the floaty elfy one, the not!Dune eccentric ones, a bunch of GLUP SHITTO alien ones, some grimderp for good measure, some automatous robots too.

Can anything be done to make the game popular? It has good rules by all accounts, it's fully 'explored' in terms of every faction has everything you'd want for it already, and to top it off its way cheaper than warhammer or infinity etc.

>>96132923
Problem is its factions basically try to muscle in on niches already covered by many other options. And its hook is just too weak to entice people to check it out.

>>96132923
Its too expensive.

>>96133110
not per model, the 10 man boxes are £20, the command squads are £12, you can get a vehicle or big turret or flying bikes for £24
It's not expensive really, especially if you buy a box every few weeks and build up

>>96133165
>not per model
It is for me.
>the 10 man boxes are £20
And for that I could easilly get 30-40 minis elsewhere.

>>96133411
now you are being over the top. Sure, you CAN. But it's pricing is not any more expensive than wargames atlantic and other companies that people consider good value. I'd like to see what high quality non 3d printed sci fi models that hold up well for £20 for 40 models

>>96132923
It's just generic sci-fi..

>>96133480
>sci fi models
Oh yeah sorry then this is not my niche I dont get the feel of scifi.

>>96133665
yeah, you'd think it would have an audience because if you like star wars alien rebel stuff there are good models there or if you like star trek alien culture stuff its there or if you like...

>>96133924
Gates really gives too much of a Mass Effect vibe. It kinda fits ST if you take into extended material, where they delve into the military stuff, but it doesn't really fit the pulpy feel of the original shows.

That said, I'm not sure why it didn't take off. Could have been advertising failure.

>>96135403
Having been around when it was new: The market was saturated, with 40k doing well, Warmachine not having died yet, and X Wing being in full swing, so there wasn't much reason to buy into what looked like yet another 40k knockoff, and the models being some plastic and some resin & metal when GW was all plastic was a turn off.

Plus the lore wasn't presented well. I had no real reason to care about the minis.

>>96135421
Yeah, I remember there was a glut of 40k look-a-likes at that time, like that one DakkaDakka tried to make. It was also the peak of KS attempts at wargames, before most realized a board game was a better approach to KS.

>>96135470
Antares could theoretically have potential but I think Warlord is better off focusing on K47 since it can double dip with the WW2 crowd.

>>96132923
How many miniatures would I need to have two armies at a small-ish point level to try it out? One of them being the Algoryn, which I like, those look somewhat like Mass Effect Turians. The other can be something like generic humans, I guess

>>96107633
Now I want them to revisit Mei's nightmare crew and finish the rest of the keyword, too.

I'm split on this one, though, mainly because I LOVE the normal Amal models, especially the Aboms. But these are also great.

>>96135421
Coming back to this after a few hours: I think part of the problem was the title. Successful wargames all have short snappy titles with at least one war related word in them. Warhammer, Battletech, Warmachine, Star Wars Legion, etc. But "Beyond The Gates of Antares" is wordy enough to sound like a Star Trek TOS episode title and does not make it clear this is a wargame.

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