This is a thread about the Eldar, the best race in all of 40k. Discussion about Craftworlders, Corsairs, Dark Eldar, Harlequins and even Exodites, are all welcome, as is artwork of them.

With the CWE model range being finally more or less up to date (barring Karandras), what should be next for the Craftworld Eldar? Some of their models are still very old but, outside of maybe Vypers, even the old plastic models are still quite good looking. The falcon kit for exmaple is basically timeless.
Still, I'd like to see Dire Avengers to be updated as they kinda show their age next to the updated aspect warriors.
I'd also like to see a new Wraithlord kit that just makes them more posable and ads more weapon options.

I don’t care about the Eldar.

>>96095412
You should tho.

>>96095404 (OP)
Falcons are easily the sexiest tanks in the entire game.

>>96095404 (OP)
>a new Wraithlord kit that just makes them more posable and ads more weapon options
Then don't request an updated model, it would almost certainly do the opposite of that.
A plastic upgrade sprue that lets you build wraithseers and potentially something else would be good though.

>>96095404 (OP)
I like Eldar but I don't like this Aeldari nonsense. Or what they did to wraithbone and soulstones, heavily implying they are AI

>>96095548
It would just be neat that if a new wraithlord kit came out that had at least similar posability as the Wraithknights have. I am aware that it is a pipedream though, as modern gw seems to hate model posability.

What are those? Lasers?

>>96095589
Warp spiders have grown on me

>>96095589
Basically harlequin's kisses. As in, stingers that release spools of monofilament vire inside whatever they stab.

>>96095599
Warp Spiders were always the coolest aspect warriors.

>>96095622
Those?

>>96095646
Yes.

I really like Rangers. Outcasts in general are my favorite eldar

>>96095625
Aspect Warriors In coolness order.

Warp Spiders
Dark Reapers
Shadow Specters
Striking Scorpions
Howling Banshees
Crimson Hunter
Swooping Hawks
Fire Dragons (Fuegan doing the heavy lifting)
Dire Avengers

>>96095727
Fire Dragons are cool, fuck you.

>>96095678
It is unfortunate that in practice the outcasts are just sniper aspect warriors. The jetbike outcasts we got semi recently at least gave some alternative takes on them but honestly, I think that the outcast eldar would deserve some level of further expansion. Where are my unabomber survivalist outcast eldar saboteurs and shit?

>>96095727
Crimson hunters are the bottom of barrel of aspect warriors. They miss the whole theme of being elf power rangers by their "warsuit" being a fucking plane. It is lame.

Just because you've been bullied out of /40kg/ doesn't mean board needs another 40k thread

>>96095781
Go whine about it to jannies, dipshit.

>>96095819
>Go whine
Your whole thread is whinning and damage control

>>96095562
>Or what they did to wraithbone and soulstones, heavily implying they are AI
What the fuck have these faggot dumb cancerous cunts done this time, is this actually real?
>>96095589
>Faggy effects modelled onto the model
Strongly dislike that shit, because you need to put in a lot of effort to make it look good and nothing that is coming of the plastic injection mold will look even halfway decent.
>>96095625
>Sneaky chainsword mandible blaster boys not in first or second place
Dumb list, I really enjoyed getting these guys into close combat and rolling a metric fuckton of attacks with exarch doing the heavy lifting versus marines.

>>96095828
Have you read even a single post itt?

>>96095856
I am actually did

>>96095404 (OP)
>This is a thread about the Eldar, the best race in all of 40k.
Damage control
>>96095513
>Falcons are easily the sexiest tanks in the entire game.
Damage control
>>96095727
>Aspect Warriors In coolness order.
Damage control
>>96095562
>I like Eldar
Lie
>>96095855
>What the fuck have these faggot dumb cancerous cunts done this time
Whine.

>>96095875
Oh, you are just a shitposting retard

>>96095855
The change to the wraithbone lore was something along the lines of specifying that wraithbone when it forms becomes some sort of complex composite material containing metals/minerals etc. The lore change added unnecessary detail to the composition of wraithbone, but to my knowledge at least, it is still produced by summoning it from the warp, it just becomes an actual material once it materializes.

Lmao fuck off

>>96095970
It is fucking hysterical that GW banned fan animations etc but released this absolutely shit tier trash as official GW approved content lmao. I've seen fucking comics that portray movement and action in a smoother fashion that this slideshow.

>>96095855
>>96095961
>It as much grown as it is FORGED

>>96095773
I politely disagree. The idea of the individual being subsumed and a part of the machine is cool and was something that I think even the Exodites could have run with.

>>96096032
>formed from various compounds, ores and minerals

>>96096032
That still includes bonesingers manipulating wraithbone. Unless GW specifically states that Craftworlders have to mine minerals and shit and have forges within which they produce wraithbone, I see no real retconning of the older lore that indicated that wraithbone is warp energy that takes a physical form. Forging in that paragraph does not necessarily have to mean literal forges.

What are your thoughts on Yrliet Lanaevyss

>>96096092
An overall mistake.

>>96096092
She's kind of meh, she is suitably haughty and arrogant for an eldar but also kind of one note. I had her in my party for a while but eventually phased her out because Marazhai was more fun as a companion. I romanced the fish so I dunno what Yrliet romance was like (I as a principle don't think that human x eldar romances should even be a thing in 40k) but based on the discourse around her it seems that it left the coomers that wanted to fuck Yrliet very disappointed.

>>96096092
She is a perfect example of how general audience sees Eldar and why none buys them.

>>96096131
>out because Marazhai was more fun as a companion.
And he is still less popular companion.

>>96096142
>*waifufags see Eldar

>>96096149
Probably because most people just kill him in Commoragh. His dialogue is so much more entertaining than Yrliet it isn't even a contest. Plus he is great as a sort of parry focused close combatant. If you kit him out right, he is basically untouchable in melee, and every time he parries a strike he performs counterstrikes etc. He held of like half a dozen if not more genestealers by himself on my bridge in the broodlord boss fight.

>>96096189
Waifufags see Eldar just as hot anime babes with pointy ears that want to fuck human men. 90 percent of the waifufag asshurt over Yrliet was because she didn't comform to the preconceived secondary ideas about what female eldar are like.

>>96096075
Warp energy is not "various compounds, ores and minerals." What are struggling to see? It's a retcon.

>>96095781
>bullied out of /40kg/
Last general I was in some retard said Deathwatch was more popular than Eldar and got blown the fuck out until they stopped posting

>>96096301
Warp energy taking a physical form could plausibly become some sort of composite of materials. Wraithlords etc are physical entities despite their bodies being made out of wraithbone, the previous lore never specified what wraithbone itself was, materials wise, besdies using the vague term "psychoplastic" and that it was summoed out of warp. If you choose to interpret the lore in a way where the connection to summoning wraithbone out of warp is completely gone (which imo the new lore does not state at all), as opposed expanding on what the wraithbone is in terms of materials once it has been summoned, that is your choice.

>>96096250

Silly monkeys, human women don't want to fuch human men. No one does.

>>96096353
It explicitly says "formed from various compunds, ores and minerals." Those are the raw components BEFORE it is made into the composite material known as wraithbone.
>previous lore never specified what wraithbone itself was
it was warp energy made into a physical material

>>96095743
How about a melee specialist outcast with very weeb design, reminiscent of wandering ronin?

>>96096401
And what was that physical material composed of? I am not defending the new lore, I am just saying that it can be interpreted in a way that is consistent with the older lore.

>>96096457
that would be kino

>>96096457
Honestly, some sort of "fallen aspect warrior" type of take on outcasts could be really neat. Essentially, an eldar outcast who, for reason or another has grown tired of the structure of the aspect paths but still retains some of the elements of that lifestyle & gear associated with their former aspect.

>>96096464
What is warp lighting composed of when a psyker shoots it at his enemies? It doesn't matter. It's magic, it defies human understanding. The new codex takes something that was a special, mysterious element of Eldar world building and made it more mundane. You can bend over backwards trying to reconcile established lore with the new codex all you like, but GW most likely just couldn't be bothered with checking what previous codices said.

>>96096743
I agree that the added detailing was fucking retarded and GW should have not touched the lore of wraithbone, I am just saying that it isn't as drastic, lore destroying retcon as people are acting it is, because it can still fit with the whole "wraithbone is summoned out of warp" deal which is far more important.

If GW starts introducing wraithbone factories where Eldar forge together wraithbone in fucking mills and forges as if it was some sort of space elf concrete, then I'll be up in arms as well. To me the core aspect of Wraithbone lore is that the Eldar literally sing it into existence from the warp, I'm fine with the idea that, if that material once it manifests is ground apart and analyzed it reads as some sort of composite material of minerals/metals and what have you.

>>96096313
>and got blown the fuck out
Both sides presented questionable evediences to their position.
Eldarfag refered to GT meta, while marine player used survey made on one website

>>96095738
Fuegan's purpose is to remind people that Fire Dragons are about the the subtle art of run up on a nigga and annihilate them from existence and not just dumb expendable anti-tank dorks.

Eldar butts.

>>96096888
Hell yeah

>what should be next for the Craftworld Eldar
Nothing but losses, unfortunately. Maybe that faggot brooks wiil add another queerfetish shit

>>96097603

>>96097623

>>96096888
That's shortstack cosplayer, post normal eldar butts

>>96097672
Damn bro needs to get some moisturizer.

>>96097693
Isha's tongue could help fix that, but she jailed in nurgulag now

Post cool eldar kitbashes

>>96097888

>>96095562
itll always be eldar

>>96097888
Techncially a human, but made out of eldar parts

https://youtu.be/bM8YGsAmeqE?si=53fg-8w1mksimgQg&t=879

>>96097888

>>96098195
Fantastic paintjob but also very garish.

>>96096213
He's a far more entertaining character, yes. But he's also far more hateable. I fucking MURDER Yrliet every single time I see her now, because of how stupid and shitty her betrayal is. And the irony is that Marazhai doesn't betray you. It's more like you enslave him.
Which is really the only reason you wouldn't murder him as soon as you can - because chaining him like a dog is more fun.
But if you're not gonna be a psychotic, sadistic heretic just as nasty and awful as the Drukhari, then you should absolutely hate him for what he does to you. And for who he is. Not just that he's Drukhari (as if that wasn't MORE than enough reason), but because he's a completely asshole while also being a sniveling, wretched, conceited little shit (even more than most Drukhari are).
So I kill them both unless I'm playing a monster heretic. In which case I only kill Yrliet.

There literally is no compelling reason to not kill Yrliet as soon as you can. Heinrix is absolutely right: only fools and the naive trust the Aeldar. Ever.

>>96097888

>>96096092
She was pretty boring and a bit dumb and naive in the game. Fitting since she is supposed to be the analog of dumb teen traveling to find self. I let he live mostly because she funny xenos pet to keep around and I like how she and Marazhai annoy other characters.
I have pretty high hopes for Corsair Guy in Dark Heresy game though.

>>96098731
People bitch that Yrliet "betrays" you when it is more like Yrliet is a fucking dumbshit that falls into the trap the Deldar set up. She was not in on the trap at all, she was strung along by Marazhai and thought that there would be some clues regarding her people in the location where she takes you, she had no idea that there was a trap laying in wait.

>>96098808
He will be good, better than yrlikek, atleast because he is male and probably №1 interest for femacolyt

>That time a bunch of Kroot outsneaked Rangers

If I wanted to start a eldar army, which miniatures should I get, I keep eyeing them from time to time pondering if I should get them or the guard, but space elves sound cooler

but I guess more importantly what color scheme?, should I pick one of the cannon craftworlds or just make my own one?

>>96100306
Go ask Reddit, you sound like one of them.

>>96100306
>which miniatures should I get
The ones you think are cool. Right now stuff like fire dragons and dark reapers are strong. But rules change all the time.
>Should I pick one of the canon craftworlds or just make my own one?
Imo dreaming up your own color schemes is fun. Canon armies have guides online though, so it's easier if you don't like painting.

>>96097777
Built for BHC

More like Smelldar

>>96100651
>Eldar
>not taller
Porn has ruined your perception of this fictional race.

>>96100651
>BHC
Breedable human cunt? Yeye, we just know than human women canonically lose to eldar cocks and eager to worship each part of their bodies

>>96096521
That can happen anyway, though. Yes, the Path of the Outcast is often an early one due to not even Space Elves escaping the curse of teen angst, but you've really just described someone who clearly feels that their days on the Warrior Path are done with, and they feel the stars calling to them - perhaps to deal with loss of comrades? Did they feel themselves becoming too close to being trapped and exarched, and so need time in a less formal environment to meditate on why Khaine tried to claim them? Or just simple "I saw so many worlds through a war mask; I would gaze upon them with my own eyes".

>>96095404 (OP)
Guardians and Dire Avengers need to be updated to get rid of the stupid fucking faceless helmets. Ugly as shit design choice that has bungled the army. "Can't have grills because that's too close to muhrines". Bullshit, Eldar had them first.

>>96102637
Fuck you, their helmets are fine

>>96102281
>>96102428

>>96102637
dark reapers too, i hate that drawn on skull design seeing as they had 3d skulls in some early artwork

>>96103181
Fuck off, retard.

>>96103218
Okay, don't forget your hormone pills brave aspect warrior
Also, eldar cocks are smaller than humans simply because Eldar culture does not have masculine aspect, so all eldar must have problem with testosterone-like hormones

>>96103249
Fuck off, retard.

>>96103251
Cry more

>MUH HUMAN DICK
Literal monkeigh-behavior.

>>96103267
>>MUH HUMAN DICK
>Literal monkeigh-behavior.

>>96103267
They do it every time Eldar are even mentioned in passing. Fucking retarded porn brained secondaries.

>>96103272
>secondaries
Either you are seoncdary as well, or you are proud of voting with your wallet for current state of the Eldar in 40k.

>>96103283
And what supposedly is wrong about the state of the Eldar, dipshit? The updated aspect warriors look fine.

>>96103270

>>96103306
>And what supposedly is wrong about the state of the Eldar, dipshit?
I think nothing, But...
It's not me who cries over this picture. >>96103181
However, my bigges issue with Eldar lore is that they are completely useless Imperium's auxilary, equal to the imperial beastman, they have nothing which Imperium doesn't have already and so they are borring.

>>96103337
Nobody asked you to spot the retarded secondary coomer memes itt. That shit has nothing to do with the state of the eldar and it is just the subhuman part of the fanbase projecting their sexual fantasies onto the Eldar.

It is blatantly clear that you are not even a fan of eldar nor do you know anything about their lore so why the fuck would you even post itt? Just to try to start shit?

>>96103306
theyre incredibly basic looking though this can apply to a lot of the range. theyre probably tied with the ad mech for biggest artwork-model disconnect

>>96103369
What? The Eldar model range is extremely close to their artwork and concept art.

>>96103337
Eldar have a completely different narrative purpose, different themes, provide a different perspective and add a different tone to the lore.
They also play very different on the table.
And yes, eldar-fans don't like how their lore has been written. So GW should write better lore.
If you find eldar boring, then that's entirely subjective. I think spehs men in big boxy block armor being angry and shooting at other blocky box-muhreens are boring.

>>96103374
scorps definitely have more detail than other aw sculpts, i by no means want greeble-marine levels of detail but i think they just look boring. though i see why people would prefer this

>>96103378
>Eldar have a completely different narrative purpose,
As much as PDF.
>And yes, eldar-fans don't like how their lore has been written. So GW should write better lore.
Why should they? Either you don't buy models, so GW aren't interested in pandering to your taste over all people who buys Marines, AdMech, SoBs, Custodes, IG, Knights, or you support current eldar lore by buying eldar minis.

>>96103405
Hopefully we'll get more corsair models.

>>96103422
why shouldnt they write better lore & novels?

>>96103422
>quality of lore
>in any way tied to the amount of models people buy

You are genuinely fucking retarded

>>96103430
>why shouldnt they write better lore & novels?
Why should they?

>>96103432
But let's not be disingenuous here.
You wouldn't give a fuck about lore quality if eldar were wanked as much as marines.

>>96103422
I get already, you don't like thing but there is a thread about the thing, so you barge into the thread contributing nothing, and tell everyone to stop liking the thing that you don't like.
But this is so weird.
>over all people who buys Marines, AdMech, SoBs, Custodes, IG, Knights
Is this the game you want? Who are these guys fighting? They are all part of the same overarching faction. It's just humans shooting at each other for the dumbest reasons, as they should be working together.

>>96103438
Nice projection, faggot.

>>96103433
why shouldn’t you go kill yourself?

>>96103442
He's a marine/imperiumfag. They can't help themselves, for some reason people liking other factions of 40k more than the imperium pisses them off.

>>96103442
>so you barge into the thread contributing nothing,
This thread itself contributes nothing but serves as shelter for the fans of Imperium's battered wives who were bullied out of 40k general thread
>Is this the game you want? Who are these guys fighting?
Incels with small dicks and low testosterone:
>>96103270
Chaos
Orks
Necrons
Tyranids

>>96103422
If i care about shit tier books by retards, i would play spesh muhrines

>>96103448
theres a strange amount of imperifags who are actually enraged by non-imp players wanting anything or having any complaints, especially on other platforms

>>96103445
I enjoy live too much

>>96103453
Retard, the creation of this thread had nothing to do with 40kgeneral, I don't even browse those threads because generals are fucking cancer. I made this thread because I wanted to talk about the Eldar and that's it.

>>96103448
I'm aware, still eagerly awaiting his answer at what targets all these human subfactions are supposed to point their guns at.
And there it is. And of course, it was a non-answer.

>>96103459
It is difficult to understand what motivates such people. Some could just be retards that self insert into 40k too much and think that the imperium are "le good guys" and are thus upset if people like xenos factions over the imperium or something.

>>96103463
>Retard, the creation of this thread had nothing to do with 40kgeneral
Sure. Then why you even made this thread in the first place? You already have thread to discuss eldar, it's 40k general thread
>I don't even browse those threads because generals are fucking cancer.
>and so we must make eldar general thread

>>96103466
Probably just muh chaos. A lot of Imperiumfaggots want all of 40k just to be horus heresy mirror matches for some asinine reason.

>>96103482
>Then why you even made this thread in the first place? You already have thread to discuss eldar, it's 40k general thread

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit I take it. I already answered this, it is because GENERALS ARE FUCKING CANCER.
I don't post in ANY generals on this board because they are fucking shite and antithetical to the nature of this fucking site.

>>96103482
You don't seem to understand what general threads are.
Protip, they aren't just threads about specific topics, they are repeating threads that are recreated time and time again the moment the earlier thread dies. This thread is not a general thread.

>>96103485
No we want NPCs to remember their place (picrel).
40k is about marines, deal with it

>>96103494
>I already answered this, it is because GENERALS ARE FUCKING CANCER.
And this is why you decided to make another general?

>>96103507
Kill yourself.

>>96103510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08

>>96103475
twitter is full of retards like this who unironically think youre a misanthrope over any minor disagreement regarding the iom. they have no real lives outside of fiction, so they mend the two to the point they view a harmless joke about le iom burning babies as a personal attack

>>96098195
the free hand is 10/10, but they just did so much that I can't even appreciate the shape of the model anymore. If they just brushed over half of the freehand designs , it would drastically improve the look.

>>96097888

>>96103527

>>96103531

>>96103520
People losing the plot and starting to actually think that the IoM was somehow justified, and not the shittiest, most monstrous and incompetent regime imaginable in all of human history, was a fucking mistake.

>>96103544

>>96103527
>>96103531
Built for BKC

>>96103551
>most monstrous and incompetent regime imaginable in all of human history,
And Eldar jobbed against it.

>>96103562
I've got something more fit for an Imperial Knight.

>>96103567
Eldar destroyed their own empire themselves, IOM had nothing to do with fall of the eldar, retard.

>>96103551
i honestly dont even care if someone thinks that, its cringe but whatever. though most of the based iom fans i find will legitimately chimp the fuck out if you dare to (very obviously) joke about something anti-imperium, and it makes any community interaction on sites like twitter utterly insufferable because they inevitably get involved and start attacking people

>>96103584
I don't use twitter but I can believe that. Just look at the imperiumfag chimping out itt.

>>96103574
Humanity was beating Eldar Empire since DAoT, that's how future knight houses were created.

>>96103527
>>96103531
>>96103544
>>96103552
Stupid sexy wraithkins

>>96103592
Pure hfy copium, typical from an imperiumfaggot. The lore of both the Eldar, and Imperium has been very much clear for decades now, that the Eldar were the undisputed masters of the galaxy until their fall, and what little lore of Dark Age of Technology humanity we have, never once states that they could challenge the pre-fall eldar in any meaningful way.

Anyways, it is blatantly clear that you are only here to try to start shit because for some reason, people liking Eldar and wanting to talk about them upsets you. Enjoy your last (you), dipshit.

>>96103600
The one on the middle looks more like a Slaanesh deamon to me

>>96103590
atleast here they cant bump the thread to their hoverers and raid the threads, but yeah. theyre everywhere
>>96103592
they attacked some exodite worlds iirc but thats about it. they never skirmished with the actual empire

>>96103592
There is only one time when war between prefall eldar and humans is mentioned,it was been in Beast Arises series, and humans got buttfucked hardly

>>96096792
>lore destroying retcon as people are acting it is
Honestly it isn't, Eldar being specifically capable of using warp energy to create waithbone while also taking material from the physical plane is not really a retcon. I think it's more headcannon that it's directly summoned from the warp vs it being a composite that was grown and shaped by the singers and augmented by the energies of the warp.

>>96103613
>The lore of both the Eldar, and Imperium
Knights lore says otherwise :3
>that the Eldar were the undisputed masters of the galaxy
Which we can see by how far humanity spreaded across the Milky Way durring DAoT

>>96103655
depends, i dont think any codices officially gave word, but theres loads of other sources (depends if you view them as secondary to codices) that has it that way.

frankly, if the crons can summon blades and shit out of no where through their mastery of the physical plane, the eldar should be able to do the same with the warp.

>>96103669
>, the eldar should be able to do the same with the warp.
Why?

>>96103678
because we know warp energy can take on physical forms indistinguishable to those of the material universe, theres no reason the eldar shouldnt be able to do the same to a limited extent given their psychic prowess

>>96103666
>Which we can see by how far humanity spreaded across the Milky Way durring DAoT
That was always a weird part of the lore and mostly the result of writers not communicating with each other.
The simple answer was always that Eldar had their webways everywhere, but their population was concentrated around the now Eye of Terror. Humans were simply regarded as something like local fauna that wasn't a threat to them at all. And they weren't.

>>96103685
>>96103684
>given their psychic prowess
Eldar are less psychic race than humans. Eldar Farseer (aka strongest eldar psyker) is on par with standart imperial sanctioned psyker and vastly underpowered comparing with Librarians, Grey Knights, Weird Boyz and Alpha or Beta psykers.

>That was always a weird part of the lore and mostly the result of writers not communicating with each other.
It's still part of the lore.

>>96103696
>eldar are less psychic race than humans

>>96103685
Humanity spreading out across the galaxy under the shadow of the Eldar empire makes sense once you actually realize how fucking big the galaxy is. Humanity could have just been colonizing worlds the Eldar didn't bother with, and due to the nature of the webway the realm of the Eldar would probably not have had distinct borders, beyond their core worlds, but been more like a scattered network of planets, all connected to one another via the webway. Thus, the Eldar domain could have both spanned the galaxy in a very loose, net like fashion, while humanity and other races like the orks etc spread trough the gaps, and any attempts of these lesser races to assault eldar worlds would have been swiftly dealt with by the superior eldar forces.

>>96103703
Humans can built their own tunnels in Webway, eldar cannot.
One Librarian can combat Infinity Circuit and Farseers Council of one of the largest Craftworlds.

>>96103714
>Eldar never dared to challenge Humanity durring DAoT
>he-he-he but they were much stronger dude trust me

>>96103730
Point to lore that states that DAOT humanity could threaten eldar in any way, shitposter kun.

>>96103730
the eldar didnt give a shit about the men of iron violently raping humanity to the point most worlds devolved to the current ioms level of tech. yeah, they literally just didnt care. we have explicit statements on this

>>96103737
>Point to lore that states that DAOT humanity could threaten eldar in any way
1) Knights codex
2) Humanity spread across all corners of the Milky Way including Cadia DURRING the time of Eldar Empire.

>>96103749
knights codex was fighting exodites. thats like saying you could beat the us military because you stabbed a sleeping homeless guy

>>96103747
>current ioms level of tech.
Which was enought to defeat all Eldar daring to challenge IoM

>>96103714
Yeah, absolutely.
And good that you mention orks, because they apparently were never such a threat and nuisance in the galaxy while the eldar claimed rulership over it. Which I find to be an interesting little lore aspect that the Imperiumfag probably has trouble dealing with.

>>96103758
The pre-fall eldar probably had means of just regularly culling Ork populations before they could become a threat to their domain.

>>96103753
>thats like saying you could beat the us military because you stabbed a sleeping homeless guy
Isn't that pretty much how US lost in Vietnam?

>>96103758
whos the artist? lovely scorp

>>96103749
Point to a direct passage from the knight codex that claims that Daot humanity fought and won against pre-fall eldar, shitposter.
And no, humanity spreading to even cadia no way contradicts the dominion of the Eldar over the galaxy. The Eldar would not have needed to populate every habitable world in the galaxy to be the undisputed masters of it.

>>96103789
>And no, humanity spreading to even cadia no way contradicts the dominion of the Eldar over the galaxy.
Now it's pure denial

>>96103774
RazydaArt.

>>96103797
Did I miss some lore about Cadia being a crone world that the DAoT humans took from them by force? No? I guess you're full of shit then.

Hfy fag seething about eldars who were cooler than his golden age state, even if blatant imperial propaganda agreed with eldar supremacy
>Our worlds were silvered jewels that glittered among the firmament, and we held in our hands the means to sunder realiry itself or to remake it to the mould of our thoughts. Only the haughry Yldari and, long before them, the cold-blooded Slanni stood higher in the ranks of creation, and like the domains of those once-mighry ancients, Mankind's utopian stellar realm would not last. Some archaeodata suggests that the fall was precipitated by the spontaneous manifestation of species-wide psionic abilities; some records relate a massive invasion of human space by myriad alien strains. Other archives record a galaxywide warp storm which sundered the worlds of Mankind. Others still relate that the machine intelligences created by our flawed genius, and upon which we had come to rely in all matters, rose up and laid us low on every world across the entire empire in a single moment of horror.

>>96103824
It is honestly bizarre why hfy faggots/imperiumfags get so fucking upset when people state the basic fact about 40k lore regarding how the Eldar reigned supreme over the galaxy before their fall.
It is same sort of reaction to when people point out that the eldar are genuinely superhuman beings when compared to baseline humanity, both in terms of their physical and mental capabilities.

For me it is the Dark Eldar. Other Eldar are cool as well tho.

>>96095970
fucking ultramarine wank omg lmao

>>96103873
Same Anon. Dark Eldar are my favourite. But I wish we got more on Chaos Eldar.

>>96103861
Inferiority complex. They cried that Eldar were taller than firstborn marines. It got to the point that in most fanarts firstborn marines were taller than everyone else by a head or two. 2,5 metres tall primaris is sop to the mainstream audience

>>96103940
Eldar towering like a head and half at least over baseline humans is something a lot of fanwank art omits lel. Just showcases that the actual motives of a lot of the people who make such garbage are.

>>96103810
>Did I miss some lore about Cadia being a crone world that the DAoT humans took from them by force?
It's literally stands right next to Eye of Terror

>>96103960
And? The eldar core worlds were the worlds within the Eye of Terror, that became the crone worlds. And Cadia is not one of them. There is no reason to think that Cadia ever was a world Eldar paid any attention to or that there was any attempt of the Eldar to stop humans from colonizing it. Hell, the presence of Necron pylons on Cadia could be the reason why Eldar didn't bother with the world, preferring to leave necron relics as they are rather than to fuck with them, which seems to have been the eldar attitude towards necrons at large before their fall.

>>96103954
It's very difficult to find art that actually shows them being much taller.

>>96104000
In older editions there was very very little art of eldar not wearing helmets, to the point that people often thought they actually were coneheads. Art for eldar has kinda always been a mess.

>>96103861
I wonder why. That's the whole point of the Eldar. GW goes on about how the basic bitch Dire Avengers are on par with a space marine. The Eldar are really good but also a puny dying race

>>96103997
>Eldar empire was so mighty it didn't dared to show up to the humans who settled right next to eldar core worlds

>>96104035
>GW goes on about how the basic bitch Dire Avengers are on par with a space marine.
Nice headcanon.

More ynnari and corsairs is next

I want to fuse ynnead and khaine avatars into asuryan like a starcraft dark Templar, dunk on nurgle and save Isha

Lil nibbas never got to soulburst with a fucking scorpian

>>96104064
What the fuck are you talking about you stupid shit

>>96104072
You can't save Isha though. Isha IS nurgle in the same way Khaine is Khorne and Cegorach is Tzeentch. The way you save Isha is by reversing the decline of the eldar race. If you did that, Isha could just walk out of the Garden. Isha's only in the garden in the first place because she's trapped by her own despair. Hope is the key.

>>96104054
Do you go out of your way to blast a family of squirrels if they start living in an old tree next to your house?

>>96104054
why would they, retard? do you kill your nextdoor neighbor? the eldar werent violent like daot humanity was with its might-makes-right mindset.

>>96104108
Dire Avengers are nowhere close to Space Marine.
Even Phoenix Lord can barely hold against tactical marine and weaker than sergeant.

>>96104035
The HFY faggots find it offensive if non humans are better or even par with humanity in any way. It is pretty bizarre how that minset latched onto 40k which is quite explictly about how fucking shit humanity is. 40k is not a celebration of humanity in any way.

>>96104239
>why would they, retard? do you kill your nextdoor neighbor?
Well if it's pack of pests then yes
>the eldar werent violent like daot humanity was with its might-makes-right mindset.
So you have no proofs they were strong enough

>>96104246
>latched onto 40k
40k was made with this mindset. At least where it comes to human vs eldar

I am deathly afraid of Dark Eldar losing all their resin models with no replacement this edition. Almost every other army has had all their resin squatted and I doubt we are getting spared. How will the army even function at that point with no Court, Beastmasters, Urien, or Grotesques?

>>96104261
No it wasn't retard.

>>96104268
Aren't there rumors about Dark Eldar refresh coming up soonish? As in within the next year or so?

>>96104282
Maybe so, but they still have to get through the rest of this edition and a codex release before that. And a refresh in 11th edition could be as much as 4 years away still.

What does HFY stand for? I see it in the youtube side bar and it's always on ai faggot slop videos that I tell youtube to not recommend me.

>>96104282
>No it wasn't retard.
Yes it was. Eldar always were meant to be inferior to humans

>>96104361
Humanity fuck yeah. Basically just autistic power fantasy wank about how powerful and speshul humans are. Gained popularity here after the first avatar movie where humans were the villains vs the peaceful na'vi of pandora. For some reason a lot of the people who liked that wankery latched on to 40k of all thigns where humanity is blatantly villanous.

>>96103873
I love those edgy space elves. I wish they got more time in the spotlight.

>>96104375
You are simply wrong, and coping. Basically all of eldar units have consistently either been equal or surpassed their human equivalents, even muhreens in terms of most of their stats, barring toughness and strenght and wounds, depending on the unit. Dire avengers have the same ballistic and weapon skill as marines for example. In some editions even fucking guardians had same ballistic and weapon skill to marines.

>>96104383
Hopefully we'll get the range refresh in the next edition.

>>96104375
The average eldar is at the very least 40 thousand times older than the average human. That alone grants them intellectual and martial superiority by itself. A dozen average Aeldari warriors could go through half an average PDF without finding much issue whatsoever

>>96104398
do not engage with it, obvious troll. even the most delusional of imperifags are not this bad

>>96104375
>Yes it was. Eldar always were meant to be inferior to humans
And humans were always meant to be inferior to Tau. The cycle continues.

>>96104398
>You are simply wrong,
Nope. That's literally the point of the eldar in the setting written by eldar creator Gav Thorpe

Could a genestealer infestation fuck a craftworld up? Are there genestealers in the sewers of the dark city?
>>96104432
The tau are equal to humanity because they are us, like right now cue in the NATO interview thing, just under blue skin. The average hive worlder or guardsman is actually subhuman and very few citizens are superdupermegahuman

>>96104411
I heard rumors that the DE are supposed to be the "big bad" of the next edition. I hope that's true.

>>96104125
I like the end of your post about hope but I disagree that khaine is khorne. When I table.against khorne the dice bless me and shit on khorne and this is evidence that God loves war and hates demons, beacuse God talks through the dice

>>96104468
In one of the shitty bl novels there is a genestealer infestation on a craftworld but it was more like the minor craftworld willingly gave themselves to the genstealers in order to protect themselves from slaanesh in some convoluted logic. There is an avatar of khaine/broodlord hybrid in it. The book is fucking retarded.

As for commoragh, there is no doubt genestealer infestations in there somewhere. There are orks, humans, kroots and whatever living in commoragh, it is fucking gigantic, unfathomably massive place. Even the greatest of human hiveworlds are like ant hills in comparison to commoragh

>>96104469
Everyone seems convinced that Eldar can't be in the starter box because they "aren't marketable enough" (even though they have been before). Orks seems to be the general public consensus of "not as deserving but makes more sense".

>>96104448
gav thorpe should be raped by a rusted tire iron, nobody values his retarded take on the cweldar

>>96104539
>nobody values his retarded take on the cweldar
Except the fact he made eldar for Rogue Trader

>>96104552
yeah and ward was responsible for a lot of sm lore lmao

>>96104448
If anyone is the creator of Eldar it is Jes Goodwin. He came up with their iconic aesthetics, which hardcarry the entire race.

>>96104520
We'll see. Sometimes I worry about them being squatted entirely.

>>96104577
Neither Craftworld Eldar or Dark Eldar are in any danger of being squatted m8.

>>96104519
The Dark city proper, not including all the other dimensions chained to Commorraghs, is like the size of a solar system right? Like a whole solar system of deeply high density housing and towers and lower levels 'beneath' them. Like a city the size of a solar system doesn't seem that big but its huge. Unless Commorragh is even bigger than that?

>>96104539
Hey, i rather Gav than Brooks, atleast Gav include straight sex content, mother/son incest and horny phoenix lord. Gav is too bad in battle scenes and some of his characters are childish infantile, regardless of race, even Grimnar was bad as a character

>>96104616
i dont mind brooks, i disliked his “banshees are trans” thing though

>>96104608
It is illuminated by 3 captive stars, it is unfathomably huge, though the dimensional fuckery going on with it probably means that it's exact size is impossible to estimate accurately.

>>96104649
unfortunately codex authors are retarded and the population is lower than that of the craftworlds, somehow

>>96104649
>It is illuminated by 3 captive stars
Two captive stars anon. The Path of the Eldar and older codexes quite explictly say its two. Unless a new codex has changed it to three

>>96104670
Oh, I just miss remembered.

>>96104659
That's the most retarded shit. Dark eldar would, realistically be the most numerous eldar due to both their birthing vat bs and the way they don't require soulstones

>>96104636
I dislike all current things and buzzwords what geedubs adds for xenos, i have no clue why they should be California'd. And poor lelith, she got ugly model and that shitty nulore

>>96104698
my hope is that it refers to trueborn but given gw authors abysmal sense of scale its probably cope
>>96104705
i just dont see why he needed to make it so male banshees transition to women. like what? like all power to you and your funky mohawk but why was this necessary?

>>96104729
>i just dont see why he needed to make it so male banshees transition to women. like what? like all power to you and your funky mohawk but why was this necessary?
Because it makes sense?

>>96095404 (OP)
Give Papa Vect his Pimpmobile Back!
I'd also like the plastic return of some other models as well, but that is number one.

>>96104738
oh its you, dont worry, fsms are coming imperifag

>>96104558
Anyone who contributed to WD127, arguably. Barring some tinkering round the edges there's not a lot that's changed since; the Dark Eldar and Ynnari are about it, and even then it's only really the latter that touched the Craftworlds.

>>96095404 (OP)
>chef's kiss

>>96104729
>my hope is that it refers to trueborn but given gw authors abysmal sense of scale its probably cope
Craftworlds being massive moon/planet/continent sized cities having massive populations is smart on GW part. Having them be more numerious than dark eldar is pretty dumb. Honestly the whole 'eldar are dying out' doesn't really work since exodites popualtions are stable, Commorragh has no shortage of people. Really its just craftworlders losing soul stones and people that are dying. But really the 'dying' should bjust be symbolic more than anything.

>>96104756
>oh its you, dont worry, fsms are coming imperifag
Uhm... okay?

>>96104743
GW doesn't even know what he looks like. His sole artwork was from before the dark eldar had a massive design change

>>96104729
Its his fetish to representation, he add queershit in each of his blslop. Even Gav include males banshees as males, even male banshee exarch is male, what he wanted to do since 1990-s

>>96104878
adding 20th century earth social norms to the lore to own the chuds

>>96104268
I think there is a chance for a Beastmasters/Grotesque revival as new models.
I am worried for the Court though. They are pretty cool, but likely to go the way of the void dodo.

moving aside from rants and imperifag cope, what would you guys like to see from future Eldar novels? can be de, cwe, clowns, anything.

>>96104864
I still think it's funny (and a little insulting) that they grabbed generic Archon art from a more recent edition for their stupid marketing rather than the one old portrait he has.

>>96104972
I prefer nothing bc during the culture wars better have nothing like that been in 2020-2024. But some corsair novel by J C Stearns or Metal Gear Solid 5 virus plot but Alaitoc warhost vs necrons in Pariah nexus would be good. Even Visarch/Yvraine romance would be good, bc idk why GW write about their "close bounds" more intimical in current edition

>>96105144
>I prefer nothing bc during the culture wars better have nothing like that been in 2020-2024.
>Even Visarch/Yvraine romance would be good
LOL
LMAO

Are Drukhari the only race in 40k without any sort of long term victory plan and just kind of exist to fuck with people? I guess Orks would qualify but they don't really have a "civilization."

>>96105144
jc stearns is a very good eldar author, he mentioned he wants to do lugganath vs necrons a while back.

>>96104972
I hope the recently announced Corsair novel is good and it ends up a series.

>>96104972
I am huffing copium that with Lady Malys coming out there might be more for Harlequins

>>96105171
I'd like to know this too. At least the Craftworlders seem to have some sort of mysterious ways with them constantly psychicing the future, and doing their mysterious shit, but the Drukhari are actively suppressing this shit. Doing the same stuff they did before the Fall just with more torture for self-preservation.

>>96105173
>jc stearns is a very good eldar author, h
>Eldar dies in masses because they are too afraid of Imperial reprisal against xenos which will follow orc attack
>AoS writter

>>96105168
Atleast, canonization of this ship will make memefags and secondaries melt down like they did at femstodes drama

>>96105144
If GW released a novel where Vizarch and Yvraine bone the coomer section of the "fan"base that has been wanking that retarded yvraine x guilliman shit would throw a colossal fucking bitchfit.

>>96105249
listen man they atleast win on their own volition without having to practically suck the orks cocks like gav did, ill take jt

>>96105171
Each deldar believes that they can live forever and climb atop of the social hierarchy of Commoragh. Their long term victory plans are individualistic, they don't care about changing the status quo, they just want to secure their place on top of it.

>>96105287
they are already couple with Bobby ramming them both in his free time

>>96105300
They still dying in masses for the Imperium.
Just like Gav intended them to be.

>>96105307
bobby g this, yvraine that. its just low effort porn. nobody remembers the good days

>>96105337
Also trash.

>>96105348
miserable faggot award

>>96105300
>ill take jt
And we confirm that Eldarfag don';t give a shit about lore "quality" all what they crave is wank

>>96105368
why yes, i want my faction to not get raped in its own book. not like imperifags would understand as theyre constantly raped in every edition

>>96105357
Yeah yeah, we all know that the only thing you care for regarding the Eldar is the shit tier fanwank smut that caters to your sexual self insert power fantasies.

>>96105387
have you considered not schizoposting like a retard?

>>96105396
Have you considered not spamming every discussion regarding the Eldar with the same fanwank & coomer shit?

>>96103873
>>96103929
>>96104383
>pic rel

>>96105403
>fanwank
you coming into an eldar thread being perpetually miserable whenever someone wants the odd W for them
>coomer shit
nigga if you think thats coomer shit you’re actually a retard

>>96105403
Friendly reminder that Eldar breeding with humans is canon. Human women are BVILT for space elf cock.

>>96105433
Love can bloom was and still is fanwank and coomershit, disphit. Do you take me for some newfag who doesn't know what that garbage is?

You are no different from this subhuman>>96105443

>>96105449
>admits to getting mad at canon
Why should anyone take your whinging seriously lmao

>>96105407
The best part about the lore of the Eldar in 40k is how the Dark Eldar and CWE are basically just estranged relatives that hate each other, but still work together against the lesser races whom they hate even more. None of the gay "eternal enemy bloodfeud civil war shit" that the asur and druchii of Warhammer fantasy have.

>>96105291
Thats why i speak about this
>>96105307
Booby dont have dick lmao, when Visarch is canonically the reason of Yvraine's daddy issues

>>96105459
None of the fanwank you have posted is canonical.

>>96105443
rope
>>96105449
i think its cute minus the smut, calm down if you think this means wanting anything of the sort near actual lore

>>96105468
>newfag doesn't know Illiyan Nastase
lol what edition did you roll in with kid

>>96105493
actual canon crossbreeding was and still is retarded

>>96105493
I fully know who he was, and I also know that he was from fucking rogue trader, and that he was fucking retconned well over 30 years ago. There have been zero half eldar in 40k since him, and GW has made it quite fucking clear that they don't want half eldar to be a thing in 40k. Hell, if his soft retconning wasn't clear enough, in one of the more recent books he was "reintroduced" as a full blooded Eldar embassador from Uhtwe to Guilliman. As in, the exact same name of the guy, just made more compatible with the lore. GW removed him ages ago because they din't want half eldar to be a thing, and now when they brought a character with his exact name back, he was brought back as a full Eldar.
If that isn't a clear indication of GW's negative stance towards half eldar then I don't know what the fuck is.

>>96095981
Genuinely baffles me too, you'd think they'd put more work into the animation stuff

>>96105492
That shit is the fucking precursor to the infestation of the waifufags and coomers that just want to spam their fanwank about "Muh human men fuck eldar chicks" shit whenever eldar are talked about. LCB forstered that cancerous mindset among the fanbase and you can thank that shit for the yvraine x guilliman posting. It was cancer back then and it is cancer now.

>>96105492
Cope

>>96105567
>>96105508
>Newfag supports retcons
>for things that were never even explicitly retconned
LMFAO
I can tell from the fact that you switched from pithy little putdowns to a massive seething textwall (complete with rage-induced typos) you know just how insecure your position is, GG kid keep seething about canon halfelves!

>>96105601
Point to any canonical half eldar, dipshit. Do it. Oh wait, you can't, because even your precious half eldar ultramarine astropath (a fucking retarded concept that goes against both eldar and space marine lore, that niggers like you only cling to because you think it can be used to justify your fetishes) was explicitly retconned to be a full blooded eldar.

>>96105619
Correction, he was the chief librarian of the ultrasmurfs in 1st edition, which again, is even more retarded than him being just an astropath. Regardless Gate of Bones novel explicitly retconned him to being a farseer from Uhtwe.

>>96105591
...wait, what?

>>96105595
90% of the community doesnt even know tg exists let alone a dow fanfic thats older than the average sm2 newfag.

“human x eldar” is an inevitably of any franchise with both elves and humans, the impact lcb had on it would be negligible desu.

>>96105591
The fuck? What the hell is the point of the arrow quiver if those things shoot lighting?

>>96105676
Doesn't make it any less cancerous and non canonical, no matter how much retarded coomers want to have their half elf tropes and human x elf romance in 40k. I took great delight in the colossal asshurt rogue trader caused when the only eldar x human sex the coomers could get was from the degenerate perv deldar dude, while Yrliet was appropriately repulsed by just the thought of touching a human and the only "romance" the player could have with her was non sexual meditation bs.

>>96105744
>I took great delight
this is because you're mentally ill and get mad when people say fictional people fuck

>>96105770
I just hate coomers and fanwank spamming retards. I've hated your ilk for over a decade now. It is impossible to talk about the Eldar here without you fucking worms trying to push your fetishes into the threads.

>>96105744
>non canonical
id rather the entire eldar range get squatted than have any semblance of eldar x human romance in actual canon, and i agree yrliet being a purely spiritual, non romantic bond was a great decision.

at the same time, i dont mind lcb. yeah its corny as shit and spawned a bunch of low quality smut, but the fic on its own is no where near as cancerous as what you get now

>>96105815
Sure, lcb isn't nowhere near as obnoxious and cancerous as the shit we get from the smut spamming retards these days, but at it's core it is still the same self insert sexual power fantasy crap about humans conquering eldar women. It is retarded shit that just ignores everything about the Eldar in order to satiate the fetishes of the people who consume that crap. There is a reason most of the artwork those people spam just shows the eldar women as sexy anime babes with pointy ears, that almost never are even taller than humans despite even the shortest of eldar canonically being easily taller than baseline humans.

Reminder that humans are canonucally attracted to Aldar. Imperium is canonically tsundere for Aeldari

>>96105845
perfectly valid points desu, though again being inevitable i will gladly take the lesser offense (though id prefer any human / eldar stuff be purely non romance, ie RT)

as for the eldars physical portrayal most 40k official art is also guilty of this, and yeah it is annoying. owlcat did a decent job but their height still feels off in dh concept art.

>>96105873
>there is evidence that both sexes of Eldar exude the same alien attraction upon humans, male and female.

Eldar confirmed for hotties.

>>96105744
>I took great delight in the colossal asshurt rogue trader caused
It was magnificent

>>96105918
humans being attracted to eldar is a perfect example of shit that doesnt belong, they should at best be too uncanny for a human and at worst completely offputting

>>96105979
Lmao, waifufags are fucking deranged

>>96105984
>they should at best be too uncanny for a human
being uncanny and being beautiful are not mutually exclusive

>>96105984
I'm fine with eldar being otherworldly and alluring in a strange, alien way to humans. Ties nicely to the whole elf & fey mythos the Eldar are still ultimately rooted in.

>>96106075
i dont mind them being beautiful, but it should be to an extent that is offputting to humans even before you factor the xenophobia

having imps first thoughts be “waow preddy xeno” reeks of stuff that should be strictly fanon

>>96105984
Pretty sure it's mentioned multiple times in codices that Eldar only really start to appear alien when they move.

>>96106220
Tbh, they're sometimes depicted as a bit visually uncanny too (and hot)

I am telling you, dark eldar romance novels are an untapped goldmine of a market towards the women who buy the most books.

>>96106333
Ahem, The Oubliette. Stearns said than many womens write him in direct after this novel. Second is Marazhai from RT, Olga Kelner hit the spot with that bastard and his VA

>>96095404 (OP)
More non-foot aspects. I wanna see bikes, hover chariots, cavalry, small and large vehicles.

A white lion aspect would be neat.

>>96095743
>geez, the power rangers never pilot vehicles!
Can't hear you because I'm going faster than sound.

>>96096888
Hips don't lie.

>>96100306
I always found tweeking an established paint scheme fun. Also for eldar, they always have differing schemes cosex to codex for the same craftworld.

>>96100306
The risk of making your own color scheme is growing fed up with it/incapable of finalizing it.
That happened to me, chiefly with the color of the weapons for my Eldar. I am not happy at all with how these fucks look.

>>96103592
DaoT humans where wittle babehs compared to sexy eldar thighs.

Best Eldar ship? And why its the Vaul class.

>>96107811
Extremely kino ship. In terms of looks the ships of the Eldar go roughly
Corsair > Dark Eldar >Craftworld eldar.

>>96107833
What do the Dark Eldar ships even look like? I thought they just used Kitbashed reavers or something as placeholders for rules with no official model.

>ops was rerolling 1's
what ability does this? I thought that was old rules

>>96105383
>why yes, i want my faction to not get raped in its own book
That's was my point.
You don't care about writting's quality as long as you get your slice of wank, just like marines players

>>96108932
Is a story about the protagonists winning with dignity "wank" now? I don't think any Eldar fan has a problem with them struggling or losing now and again. The problem is that the few CWE stories we get seem to always end in some "we won, but we're still doomed!" pyrrhic victory trope. Often a fairly humiliating one at that.

>>96106840
I think you just need some contrasting decoration; the WK doesn't look as dark because of the relatively large green areas and the mirrored sword. The colour scheme itself looks fine to me, I'm getting a 'twilight/space nebula photo' feel from it; to that end, if you were confident and ambitious, maybe some starfield effects? Could help to break up the wider areas on the Falcon, especially.
It's certainly more entertaining than my 'inspiration' of white aircraft fuselages. That ended up being quick to do, but Ididn't really get that clean effect I'd been hoping for, and ironically looks a bit flat on the grav tanks and fliers.

>>96108064
They have very cool ships in battlefleet gothic 2.

>>96109354
>Is a story about the protagonists winning with dignity "wank" now?
Yep because you are prioritizing wank over writting quality.
>. The problem is that the few CWE stories we get seem to always end in some "we won, but we're still doomed!" pyrrhic victory trope. Often a fairly humiliating one at that.
Well you buy NPC faction without any good qualities, what are you expecting?

>>96105461
>Booby dont have dick lmao,
Yet Yvraine openly craves for it more than for Visarch's pecker.
Although it makes sense why eunuch is more masculine than race with no concept of masculinity in general

>>96105567
Everything is cannon, lorelet. GW has also put out a couple of allusions to half-eldars in certain BL stories.

>>96105659
>explicitly retconned him
Based on what? Two characters having the same name? Lol, dig deeper in your ass, maybe you'll find an actually argument thats more than sad cope.

>>96112626
>Everything is cannon
Girlyman is gay and so was the Emprah.

>>96112640
>>96112626
The only reason you cling to that retconned lore is because it justifies your retarded race mixing fetishes. You don't give a fuck about the obviously retarded idea of him being the chief librarian of the ultramines, and how that by itself just completely retcons his existence already, given that the chief librarian of the ultramarines has been Varro Tigurius for fucking deaces.

GW has retconned half eldar out of the setting, cope and fucking seethe about it.

>>96112702
Illiyan Nastase is his boy wife for pederasty.

>>96112865
Not that other anon, I give enough of a fuck to laugh at your malding tho. Stay mad at elves in your muhrine ranks.

>>96113041
Nigger, Im not a Marine fag, I collect eldar

Fuck the imperiumfags and lore revisionists. Do post more space elves.

>>96113107
>malding that Games-let fucking steal every trope-Workshop has half breeds in its space fantasy.
Lol, lmao even

>>96113155
>Fuck the imperiumfags and lore revisionists.
Look who is talking

>>96113210
Nigger, I am not the one in denial about the fact that GW retconned half eldar out of the setting. Again, the only reason people like you cling to that retconned lore is because you use it to justify your fetishes.

>>96113252
Space David Bowie elves is a kino look for the Eldar.

Which half of the Eldar got retconned out of the setting?

>>96113588
The whole idea of humans and eldar being capable of interbreeding and thus resulting hybrids were retconned. As in, there are no half elves/eldar in 40k.

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>>96105659
Kaarja Salombar, from the book The Chapter's Due that was released in 2010.
"Kaarja Salombar sketched him a roguish salute, her wild blue hair swirling around her thin features. Honsou supposed that she was beautiful, with pale skin and warm, almond-shaped eyes of striking violet. There were some who said there was eldar blood in her veins, and Honsou would be hard pressed to disagree**. Her tall, slender frame and inhuman grace certainly suggested an affinity with that ancient race.**

“Don’t count on it,” said Sicarius.

“And she is what? Human, xenos?” The man hesitated.

“Human,” he said at last.

“Don’t you know?” said Sicarius, pressing his gun to the man’s temple. The barrel fizzed as the weapon recharged.

“No one knows for sure! Some say she’s part eldar. She’s quick like them, but strong.”

Sicarius stood up straight.

“Tell me more of this Corsair Queen. How many warriors does she have? What are her strengths and weaknesses?”

“She’s clever,” laughed the Bloodborn soldier, resigned to the fact of his death."
Her being half-eldar is never questioned in the book and multiple characters accept it or find it very likely.

>>96113318
>t-they retconned it. Reeeeeee
meanwhile at gw >everything is cannon
Maybe it's because you marinefags are angry everyone else isn't a trannie incel?

>>96113787
Some in universe speculation about a chaos aligned pirate, in a shitty bl novel hardly confirms the existence of half-eldar. It is telling that dipshits like you cling to this vague bs because you have nothing else to validate your delusional fetishes being part of 40k.

>>96113792
Nigger, again, I am not a marinefag. I collect Eldar and that is precisely why I fucking despise the half eldar shit, because it is always imperiumfags that want that garbage into the setting even after GW retconned it.

>>96113792
But they explicitly did retcon it. Nothing about the old lore regarding the single half eldar character that has ever existed in 40k, is compatible with the lore past even the second edition. Half eldar were early edition odness of 40k that were removed as the setting was established further. I do not understand why it is so hard for some people to accept this.

>>96113866
I want to see them trying to explain how a space marine chapter would accept a half-eldar among their ranks.
The way eldar and humans interacted back then was very different.

>>96113909
By it being the lesser of two evils and ordered so? Marines are fairly level headed, religious chapters not withstanding. Folks have to get their fluff from sources outside youtube...

>>96113936
>By it being the lesser of two evils
What evil?
Over using an actual human? I'm not even talking about the religious aspects. Spehs muhreens are supposed to be the epitome of humanity, being based on the genetic material of their primarchs.
It's like accepting an ogryn space marine.

>>96113866
Except, there were other Half-Eldar characters in 40k. While Nastase was, indeed, rectoneed, by virtue of another Chief Librarian being mention, Human-Eldar hybrids never stopped existing. Kaarja Salombar is prime example of such character.
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>>96113828
LoL. It does, even assuming Salombar isn't a Eldar-Human hybrid, which she is, the fact that people don't contradict this and find the idea to be resonable points to Human-Eldar hybrids are common enough in the Galaxy. The only thing to argue is whether such hybrids can be somehow naturally conceived or require gene-manipulation on larger or lesser level during the conciving process. Either way, they common enough in the Galaxy for people to think "Damn, this twink is super sexy, I wander if he has Eldar grandfather".

>>96114017
>Except, there were other Half-Eldar characters in 40k
Name even 1.
And no, Kaarja was never confirmed to be half-eldar. Your fetish is not canonical to 40k no matter how much you insist.

>>96113792
>>96113828
>>96113866
>>96114017
What about all those human-eldar hybrids Macador was futzing around with? Sure its horus heresy fluff, but stil...

>>96114032
There's actually several instances of lab-created Eldar humans, but it's unclear if this is at a genetic level or merely superficial traits. Some of the Haemonculi Covens can surgically turn other Dark Eldar into pseudo-humans as punishment and to serve as insurgents into human ranks.

>>96114032
They were explicitly genetically engineered hybrids, not naturally conceived. And they, if my osmosis of the lore from those trash novels is accurate, were also just basically dunkan idaho ripoffs (which is hardly surprising giving the "quality" of BL writing).

Haemonculi have also probably made human eldar hybrids within commoragh for shits and giggles.
These genetically engineered hybrids are however irrelevant to the discussion, especially regarding the haemonculi stuff because if they wanted they could probably make eldar/ork hybrids etc type of shit.

The shit the faggots that insist that half eldar are totally a thing in 40k, is obviously naturally conceived half eldar, because they just want to inster their whole "muh human men conquering eldar women and producing halfbreeds" fetish into the setting.
You can see that being their actual motive in the shit they write and the "art" they post. It is always human men x eldar women because it is sexual self insertion power fantasy shit.
Basically, the people who want half eldar to be a thing are the types of people that make rants like this>>96105979

They don't give a single fuck about the lore of the eldar, or their models, they just want 40k to be yet another setting in which they can fullfil their banal sexual fantasies. The surest way to spot a secondary disphit that has never even touched an eldar model is if they start spamming the fanwank bs that fetishes the eldar.

>>96114032
That's a human. It's a disguise.

>>96113970
>Only Marrysue can deusexmachina the mcguffin or else Insertbadguy will surely destroy the emporium! Emperor forgive us it is the only way
There are like a million evils in 40k. Needs must an all that. Is really that hard for you to imagine? Just think of any of the hundreds of examples here the imperium has to ally with xenos, then turn it up a notch.

>>96114027
>Your fetish is not canonical to 40k no matter how much you insist.
>Iron Warrior Warsmith doesn't find idea of Half-Eldar wierd, the opposite, just looking at Salombar he find the idea hard to argue against.
>Ultramarines don't question it either and accept the information.
>T-this doesn't confirm hybrids exists!
>Anyway, let's talk about how Homunculi can resurrect people, grow entire generations of Eldar in the vats and create disease that turn people into glass but allowing some random Eldar pirate with a fetish to impregnate a Human wench is too much for them!
Cope.

>>96114132
>here the imperium has to ally with xenos
Ally. Sometimes mercenary work.
They don't enlist them. The humanity fuck yeah faction that is all about prime human genetic material doesn't enlist half-breeds of any sort.

>>96114147
I see that you are no longer even trying to hide the fact the only reason you want half eldar to be a thing is because it is a fetish for you.

>>96114169
>you want half eldar to be a thing is because it is a fetish for you.
I don't had a reason for something that is already a thing. I doubt you could conceive a Human-Eldar Hybrid without genetic manipulation on some level, but undeniable Eldar-Human Hybrids exist and are numerous enough for no one to be particularly shocked about them. That you don't like the fact of interspecies hybrids existing in a setting where real-physics are nonexistent is not my problem.

>>96114346
>I don't need a reason for [head Canon garbage]

Concession accepted, coomer

What is your opinion on Harlequins?

>>96114953
They are very cool

I wonder if we'll ever get new Vect mini. Or a novel.

>>96115001
A Malys novel would make more sense since she's got an upcoming model.
Vect probably isn't getting a new model anytime soon.

>>96114167
>the emperium, million worlds, billions of habitable satellites, trillions of cultures, some lost, some separated by centuries of non-contact, can never have an exception to the norm...
How often does GW need to prove to you mouthbreathers that your dogmatic adherence to some meme understanding of 40k is asinine?

>>96115518
We are tralking about spehs muhreen chapters, though.
Ultramarines at that.
You can do whatever the fuck you want with your fanfiction or "your dudes", but that doesn't mean anyone else needs to accept that as any kind of canon.