Thread 96119414

Since we have a movie in the pipeline and Warlord is about to lose the license to the IP, what are your hopes for the future of Judge Dredd games?

>>96119414 (OP)
Controversial opinion but the Stallone movie is a better adaptation of the 2000 A.D strips than Dredd.

>>96119464
Eh, I agree, but the Karl Urban one is a better movie.

>>96119414 (OP)
Powered by GURPS adaptation.

>>96119480
It’s definitely the better action movie judged (heh) on its own merits but people like to act that it’s the most accurate adaptation because Dredd never takes off his helmet or whatever.

>>96119464
If Stallone had kept the helmet on it would be literally just fine with me. Even as it is I'm willing to tolerate it and it's a fun and good flick.

Anderson from the Urban one though activates all my neurons.

>>96119414 (OP)
I just want to see an RPG again, I’m pretty system agnostic as long as you get to be Judges and not just perps afraid of judges. 3.X Judge Dredd is dope already though.

The osprey board game is seriously good

>>96119414 (OP)
Board games are still hot, they will most likely do one with minis as those are $100 plus and would sell like munce cakes.

>>96119464
Do you know what the true 90s 2000AD film is? Demolition Man.

>>96119526
Even with the helmet you'd stll have Rob Schneider. Even Armand Assante having the time of his life can't make up for that and, again, he's better in Demolition man.

>>96119499
It managed to sell how much of an absolute hellhole every aspect of life is in the setting. And it made it abundantly clear how deep the corruption goes. The only real criticism I have against it is that it makes Dredd into "a good guy."

>>96119819
Demolition Man also has Rob Schneider unfortunately, but it's a pretty great movie otherwise. I for one look forward to the Fast Food Wars.

>>96119970
They’re both Dredd movies, just in one he’s Fargo’s dad.

>>96119464
My dad's opinion is that the Stallone movie LOOKS right, but the Urban one FEELS right. He grew up with 2000 AD.

Me, I like both movies, but I think that Dredd is better.

>>96119414 (OP)
Rebellion does reprints of the Old GW made Board game and the Hex and Chit War Game Block War, along with the expansion Mega-Mania, and they do have a Jenga-based RPG called Dread: Dredd, you can get a PDF of as well.
They seem to have ended their license with Warlord game so I guess Rebellion is planning more stuff on their own rather than relying on licensees

>>96120706
I just want another colourful movie. Judge Dredd isn’t all grey and brown, Mega-City 1 should be vibrant as hell.

>>96120779
I always wanted to grab that game. Only problem is my friends aren’t nearly into Judge Dredd as I am, except the literal british one.

>>96121290
It's £20 on their webstore.
If you own it, I'm sure your friends would give it a try

>>96121341
I hope so. I do intend to own it before it disappears again along with the expansion and the price is right as I think I can get a first purchase discount too. They should at least be hyped for this new movie.

>>96120779
fun but extremely unbalanced

>>96121542
Is Dredd the best?

>>96119819
The rat burger scene happens in Judge Dredd around prog 400-500, I can’t remember exactly but he eats a rat burger and it isn’t bad.

>>96119819
>Even with the helmet you'd stll have Rob Schneider
He's not that bad and all he does is get owned.

>>96125334
He saves the day with the ABC Warrior.

>>96124778
Also in a daily Dredd strip

>>96125847
>tfw Julia Child will never cook you some baked rat au jus
Why even live?

>>96125901
This. Not to blog post, but my mom was actually friends with her.

>>96119464
Yeah, I've always thought that. Personally, as much as I enjoyed the Karl Urban movie, I can't imagine doing a sequel to it would be a very good idea. It's absolutely perfect for what it is, as a snapshot of what Judge Dredd would be like in a semi-realistic near future, but 2000AD comics aren't supposed to be realistic, they're supposed to be completely bugfuck insane. The more ground they try to cover with Realistic!Dredd, the further it's going to drift away from the source material until it might as well be an original IP.

>>96125846
Eh, he can have an ABC Warrior as a treat.

>>96119414 (OP)
I want a new RPG to come out already. The D20 one is almost 25.

>>96129740
A new one did come out.

Firstly, Mongoose made a Traveller-based Judge Dredd RPG after they did the d20 version. I played a game of it once, it was alright.

Next, in 2018 EN Publishing made Judge Dredd & The Worlds of 2000AD, some kind of d6 dice pool system. I've got a copy of it but never played it.

>>96119970
Rob Scheinder is a plus to both Demolition Man and Judge Dredd.

>>96119414 (OP)
Is this why the stater set is significantly reduced in price on Warlord’s website?

>>96130903
because they lost the license and are trying to get rid of the stock of a discontinued game

>>96130903
>>96130927
Yes, it will be illegal for them to sell it soon.

>>96132026
can really blame them, but Warlord have been basically keeping the IP on life support for years now, so I can see why Rebellion terminated the license. but I'm not sure who rebellion will take over, all their Tabletop games have lack major plastic pieces so I'm not sure they could produce an in-house Wargame even if they wanted to

>>96119819
>>96119970
Rob works for both movies, and fits the tone well. Stop being a bitch.

>>96120706
He's right.

>>96120706
Stallone got the satirical cheese and the look right, Urban got the ultraviolence and treating itself in-universe with dead seriousness right but didn't have the satire, the cheese, or the look.

>>96119414 (OP)
taika wanktarded lefty commie lunatic faggot is making it. you dumbshit. it's going to be an even worse fucktardation anal rape of the source materiel than starship troopers.

>>96124778
>>96125847

>>96136864
That was a fun episode.

>>96126007
>I can't imagine doing a sequel to it would be a very good idea.
It was a fine movie and it ended well, and making a second one that isn't the same exact premise as the first one would be quite difficult, but if there was a second Dredd 2012 movie just as good as the first I would be happier than not.

>>96119414 (OP)
Board games and expansions would be the best. Minis for them would be fun to paint.

>>96136753
he's so gonna ruin this pro-Thatcher comic

>>96138774
it will be the most surface level, retarded shit. hell, dread won't go to the space station. or contact any of the aliens etc up there. the fat retard 'gang' won't be doing shit.

and they will completely miss that dredd is the fucking clone of the worst dictator tyrant psychopath megacity one ever saw.

fuck, they'll probably paint his helmet bright orange and put him in a blue suit. make him a bumbling fool, who constantly gets saved by a woman. and they'll probably have him captured by the bad guys and graphically anally raped on screen.

>>96138774
and dredd was never pro or anti anything. it was always a pulp about a completely fucked world, with humans just trying to get by in the ruins of the planet they fucked. gone to the utter extremes.

>>96126007
That's why 2000AD gave Urban Dredd a conclusion.
Dead World wins

>>96138842
oh, you're retarded, I get it. Good luck with special ed.

>>96138867
no. authorial intent of leftists making hamfisted, utterly retarded and nonsensical comparisons that do not even remotely fit do not MAKE it pro or anti anything.

>>96138876
I'm not gonna spend my sunday explaining context cues to a retard. Go out and enjoy the sun, don't forget your head protection.

>>96138903
cry more, faggot.

>>96138842
Even ignoring some of the spin-off strips like Insurrection, Dreadnought and Chopper, the mainline Judge Dredd strip found in the progs is pretty upfront about how shitty the Judge system is.

>>96139123
No but see, the comic is being entirely politically neutral when Dredd gaslights the reader about how voting works. There is no political overtone to a compulsive scrawler calling him a fucking fascist before hucking a brick through a window.

>>96119414 (OP)
>what are your hopes for the future of Judge Dredd
One of worst war criminals in history of Earth gets sent into a black hole and his agony lasts for eternity.

>>96139167
you talking about America?
A storyline where Garth Ennis made fun of the left-wing parties in British politics at the time?

>>96139300
For what it's worth, I always got the impression Ennis hated them for not going far enough.

>>96139123
Dredd is tough but fair. The real problem with the Judges is that most people simply can't live up to the same standards.

>>96139372
He does dislikes his original Dredd run, that much is certain.

>>96139300
America and its sequels are by John Wagner. You might be thinking of The Devil You Know / Twilight's Last Gleaming, which were by Garth Ennis and about a referendum on democracy. If I recall correctly Wagner was a bit annoyed by Ennis and that thought the story didn't go far enough because he would have had the Judges lose and then have to deal with the repercussions. Its supposedly one of the reasons why Wagner came back to write for Dredd after taking a hiatus for years, to sort-of course correct. Ennis himself deeply regrets a lot of his 2000AD work, because he thinks he fanboyed too hard and without enough skill.

>>96139391
Dredd is usually tough but fair, but even he frequently struggles with the system as a whole despite being created from scratch to be the system's ultimate enforcer.

>>96139300
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>96139123
>>96139167
>>96139300
>>96139372
>>96140226
>>96138842
>>96138876

Anyone who ever says "dah judges are the best and only option" never read Origins where Fargo literally says he fucked up rawstyle to Dredd himself and it fractures Dredd's faith in the Justice Dept so deeply that he is STILL dealing with the fallout 20 years on. After Origins, Dredd no longer works WITH the Justice Department and is always merely manipulating them to try and achieve a nebulous common good that even he isn't sure he is the right man to achieve.

He doesn't even believe Fargo, either- he tries to deny it and bury it but "It was never meant to be forever, Joe" haunts him to this very day and he's still not sure if he's even doing the right thing, but he self-acknowledgly does not know how to even begin to change himself, let alone the system. So he just tries to do the best he can.

If you really want whiplash go read America, then go read Cadet (it's in the first America TPB) and see how different Dredd's opinion on the JD has become. He no longer views the existing organization and its people as the end-all be-all. Almost his entire villain roster from the last 20 or so years has been rival, corrupt Judges. And they are not shown to be 'just bad apples'.

>>96142953
Case in point, Dredd pretty much agrees with Beeny here, he just doesn't say as much. And hell, unlike 80s Dredd who probably would've had her shot for saying this, he doesn't at all object.

>>96142953
>>96142997
because leftoids are retarded and can't actually write characters sensibly.

>>96139025
>>96138876
This has to be a troll.

"Quiet down class, we're talking about unemployment, YOUR FUTURE", Better The Devil You Know, Bad Bob Booth, "Moonlighting", and the entirely of the America comic are not political?

Dredd is satire. Really great satire (most of the time). It's the sort of great satire that modern leftie faggots think they are writing.

God, I love Judge Dredd. Thanks for reminding me you faggots.

>>96144454
/co/ is unfortunately too fast for most Dredd/2000AD threads to last.

>>96142953
sorry but the Democracy arc basically spelled out the Judges are the best option. love them or hate them because the alternative is complete death

>>96144664
There's been a couple of great Dredd Thredds in the last couple of weeks, actually. They usually appear around the weekends and tend to do better during bonglander hours.

I really need to get back to storytiming. I even wasted money on a pass to make it less of a pain in the neck, it'll be completely pointless if I don't do anything with it

>>96142997
>>96144820
Dredd knows the system is flawed because Fargo told him personally. Dredd also got soft in the 80s and has only gotten softer. Dredd is just terrified of change I think as he only knows how to be a judge and not a person.

>>96144829
The problem with /co/ is that its most active hours are American time(11 pm - 2 am GMT), so anything that does not interest them gets archived very quickly.

>>96119414 (OP)
Board game with minis please, like Helter Skelter but all Judge Dredd characters, nobody cares about Nikolai Dante.

>>96144840
wrong. Dredd is the copy of the most ruthless, tyrannical lunatic despot they have ever had, instead carefully trained to the Law as absolute. Dredd knows the law is perfect and just and the judges are the only thing saving humanity from total annihilation.

Not!Dredd as written by fucking moral relativists, godless pagans, satanists and communists is a pathetic loser weakling. and a retard.

they are NOT the same character.

>>96119414 (OP)
Dear Games Workshop,

Buy the licenses again and make a Dredd minis game.

>>96144664
One lasted this one time to 500 posts.

I know the people who make video games at Rebellion would love to make a Dredd game, but the owners of the company don't seem interested.

>>96148221
We need a professional-made mega-city one mod for cyberpunk or GTA.

>>96144820
>the alternative is complete death
As opposed to steady decay? IIRC in the beginning MC1 had 800 million citizens. Last time I checked it was 180 million. (Out or morbid curiousity how many of them were killed by Clone Joseph?)

>>96148221
It’s too expensive.

>>96119414 (OP)
Just give us D20 Judge Dredd again. It's perfect.

>>96144911
Hey retard it's the same writer that wrote dredd into existence that wrote him into the softening version we're talking about.

>>96149251
I was genuinely shocked when he didn't shoot Chopper.

>>96148616
I suspect this, but there's still more value in bringing awareness to other 2000AD franchises like Slain or Rogue Trooper than peddling another Sniper Elite.

>>96148221
which is weird since we also know people at Rebellion and they have lent the use of the IP out so a much smaller development team to make sub game like they asked Abertay Uni to make a Chopper game for them several years back

>>96149373
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a Rogie Trooper DLC for Sniper.

>>96149733
to meny new assets

>>96119414 (OP)
Had anyone played Helter Skelter, is it good?

>>96149571
They aren’t that anymore I feel.

>>96149251
yes? because a leftist has never ever become an even more extreme, deranged leftist over time.

>>96133222
Agreed.
Generally can't stand Schneider generally but he was alright in both those roles and most importantly used sparingly.

Anyway I'd repost some of the hi-res 1995 movie concept art and test pictures but most of them are over the file size limit. Go look for them they are pretty cool.

>>96133222
Agreed.
Generally can't stand Schneider but he was alright in both those roles and most importantly used sparingly.

Anyway I'd repost some of the hi-res 1995 movie concept art and test pictures but most of them are over the file size limit. Go look for them they are pretty cool.

>>96119464
>>96126007
I love the 2012 one for being, probably, the best take on a grounded version of Dredd. I don't think the Stallone one really works as a movie or as a comic-book true version of early wacky 2000AD. You'd need a cartoon for that, featuring fatties on unicycles and monkey mobsters and alien mercenaries and all that other shit.

I'd love a Carl Urban sequel focused on more mutant stuff and the blasted wastelands. Have the plot mainly focused on having to venture out into the cursed earth to rescue a vip or some shit. Might feel a bit like Mad Max, but it'd be sufficiently different from the first one.

Also, bit of an aside, but Holy Shit Thirlby looks stunning for 38 years old. She could totally still play Anderson

>>96119414 (OP)
I wish I was into Dredd as much as I am now when I was 13.

>>96153186
Anderson should be around 20-25 years younger than Dredd at any given time. Any new thing will have a hound Anderson middle aged Dredd just like the 2012 one did. I’m guessing they won’t have her in the new movie though and avoid psychic stuff for a while.

>>96153371
if they want to use to film to spin into Dredd-verse project i kinda would expect her since she has the most easily explainable spin-off idea to normies
at least compared to the Simping Detective or Devlin Waugh

>>96153611
A Devlin Waugh tvshow would be such a treat.

>>96149571
And I know that stung for people on the dev team there. Some recent game got Strontium Dog skins, but it wasn't Rebellion's.

>>96149571
I bet as far as characters people know about he’s cheap to license. I bet it’s less than $30k to make a toy.

>>96148535
>>96148535

Yeah, at this point there's no reason for a mega city at all. You divide up into an actual nation again, of separate cities with manageable populations.

>>96156579
Everything else is uninhabitable.

>>96159928
earth is pretty inhospitiable but at this point mega city one has multiple colonies in space

>>96160376
I just got to the Case File with this map. It’s a little outdated now, how much of canada is Uranium City if they speak french first?

>>96142953
Hot take but I don't consider origins canon because it ruined Both's character.

>>96149373
They're making a Rogue Trooper movie

>>96152602
Pat Mills has inserting neopaganism into his comics since at least the 80s.

>>96160970
I hope it does well and they throw more money at the Dredd movie. It would need a pretty high budget to be right.

Just send a FOIA request for every crime in Chicago and Detroit in the past week. Then put yourselves in cops' shoes. The inner city wildlife is wilder than gayass Angloid fiction.

>>96161399
SHHHHH! bigot! stop Noticing! observable reality and the consequences of "their" actions is WAYCIS

>>96148221
Give it time.

>>96140226
Love that picture.

>>96160376
I never understood why the rad zones and wastelands are located in what are now the least-populated places on the planet, while the megacities are located in the exact places that would get massively-saturated with nukes and should have become the actual rad zones and wastelands! Why? Is this explained in the fiction somewhere?

Why is Topeka, KS a rad zone but NYC is a bustling hive of humans? Did military planners on all sides invert their missile targeting maps?

>>96171203
It's explained at bit in origins if I remember correctly, but the areas with higher population had shielding or nuclear defences, so the Radlands are caused by all the nukes going off before they could damage major population areas to a significant extent.

>>96171213
Ah, thank you.

>>96160970
It looks ok. Need to see it in motion though.

>>96174883
I'm guessing we will get a trailer in the next couple of days since 2000AD is doing a SDCC panel with Duncan Jones

>>96175103
I hope we get a real announcement about this Dredd project too.

>>96175103
Soon.

>>96175103
Nothing yet sadly.