Chuardin Edition

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>>96122045

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>Thread Question
How do you feel about Helsmiths? Happy? Disappointed?

>unironically commissioning that artwork

I'm glad to see the Helsmiths look pretty cool. Happy for Chorf fans

I realy like those. I don't know why we were going with ugly beared dude faces for bulltours all those years

>>96125932 (OP)
Other than the bull centaurs the whole thing is like that drawing: unappealing and mediocre.

>TQ
Im very happy with the Helsmiths of Hashut. I dont think i will use the same color scheme that GW used, but i will buy the army. Hashut Hashut Hashut!

I wonder how much the army set will cost.

>>96125929
The new Chorfs are bottom tier imo. The top tier is the Forgeworld range. The ancient chorfs may have been low res but they had a very animated cartoony quality. These new are simply very very boring and uninspired.

>>96125932 (OP)
I withhold my judgment until I see them in a better paint scheme like the classic red because the current just drags the models down immensely.

>>96125960
Considering the last couple where $230, expect to pay $250 for a hero, 10 guys, and an artillery piece.

I love when 50% of my bearded dudes army doesn't have beards and instead looks like fat lesbian orcs!

>>96125960
>I wonder how much the army set will cost.
Too much.
Although i wonder how elite will they be.

>>96125953
Easily the best thing in the entire range so far by a large margin. I can't stomach what they have delivered today.

Really ugly weapons, and general art style to their armor. The green color scheme the studio used is DISGUSTING and probably makes me more hostile to the army than they deserve, but generally pretty weak execution of the concept.

The hobgoblins are surprisingly good though given how bad they were in the kruelboys

>>96125970
They may be evil, but they aren't insane, gender equality is important in Helsmith culture.

>>96125932 (OP)
EMBRACE YOUR INNER BULL

I am glad I had zero interest in chorfs, I'd be so disappointed if I had been waiting for these

>>96125932 (OP)
They look ridiculous and that's basically what I wanted them to. But right now I'm feeling in a Nighthaunt mood.

>>96125965
That guy looks awful, tho?

>>96125979
>that artillery
Imagine what we could have had if the Helsmith designers weren't tasteless retards.

>>96125932 (OP)
>TQ
Devastated. They are inexcusably, mind-bogglingly bad.

>>96125989
Uh sure anon, >>96125953 look much better than that guy. Try not to overdose on copium.

>>96125970
>instead looks like fat lesbian orcs!
Nonesense, they used the most attractive blue-hair on the design team as a reference, chud.

>>96125990
>trackless train
What's the point?

>>96125989
Why lie? Just to own the chuds? Why?

>>96125990
we havent seen the hashut terrain piece yet, a train could still be coming. the KO drone factory shows they arent unwilling to do terrain that behaves like limited units

>>96125990
the rocket battery that looks straight out of 40k with giant rubber tires, and the boring achers with nerf guns are incredibly weak yes.

You're repeating yourself faggot

>>96125932 (OP)
I'm neutral on the Helsmiths. I've never liked any previous version of Chorfs to be fair, so these guys even reaching the level of "Maybe..." for me is technically an improvement. I'd like to see some alternate paint schemes on them, at the very least.

I do really like the new hobgrots though, and the bull centaurs, and I think all the infantry guys and spellcaster heroes look OK-ish. The Despot or whatever looks like a dweeb, though. The dreadnaught thing is too fat for it's own good, the artillery weirdly doesn't seem to fit the overall army aesthetic, and the giant bull mount is sort of confusing to look at. It looks halfway between a statue and a robot, when it would be better if it committed to one or the other. Really would like to see that model in particular with different paint jobs.

>>96125989
Eeeh, no. That guy looks awesome. I was expecting a bullcentaur hero. I think i will have to wait more.

>>96125965
The hard part about arguing that Forgeworld Chorfs were better than HoH is that all the promo pics have the models painted in that murky, unappealing Forgeworld house style.

And it's hard to find pictures of those models painted differently because nobody fucking played that army

>>96126005
I don't like him, I've never liked Shartor. I didn't like the Forgeworld chorfs in general, they mostly look like shit or get dragged down by that playdough older Forgeworld resin look.

>TQ
Mixed. The center piece is begging to be decorated, I’ll add some chains, maybe some corpses.
The shirtless bulls are cool, I’ll probably add something else though. Dunno what yet.
The actual dwarves are okay, although I want to see the options in depth. REALLY wish they had axes and not spears, although maybe that’s for the elite variation instead ( supposedly there’s a second wave soon after?)
The arty and the chaos brute are fine. You either love them or hate them.
Lack of body horror or incorporations of demons is puzzling though, and is my main complaint.
Will be buying the wizards, bvlls, and hobgrots or whatever. I’ll be waiting to see what the second wave brings, hopefully an upgrade sprue to make ard boyz into punished vassals.

Ok but seriously what the fuck were they thinking here?

>>96126033
I don't get the sperging over this, other than maybe the wheels looking too modern

>>96125932 (OP)
>TQ
the armor looks too clean
it should be darker, bleaker, more in line with the shadow Babylon of the old chorfs
less royal purples and polished silver and more ash chocked black with blood reds, and yes i know you can paint them that way but this is the official art

Sick cover on this one

>>96126033
I don’t see the issue. Although I do wish there was a khadron-esque face on the front of that ridge or whatever it’s called.

>>96126033
???? Is a warmachine in fact looks better than the rocket launcher from forgeworld

>>96126033
I've got no defense of the artillery. Everything else at least vaguely fits the pseudo-Assyrian style they've got going on and then you've got these sleak, too modern looking artillery pieces. Worst models in the range.

>>96126030
You are embarrassing yourself at this point anon.

>>96126033

>>96125953
I wonder if i can put those bull mask over the heads of the bearded ones. I want the beards and the masks.

>>96126055
>EVERYONE LOVED THE WAY MY OLDASS SUPER UNPOPULAR ARMY LOOKED
You're coping super hard here. Chorfs have literally never been popular, and their Forgeworld era was no exception.

>>96126038
it looks too clean
chorfs should be blocky and loose pipes, pure function over form

>>96126055
Nta but the model is kinda bad. I can barely read his right arm, and the proportions for the…horse(?), bull(?) body are fucked. Horse anon would have a field day with that.

>>96126042
this looks really bad. there is nothing even remotely discernable for a face behind that faceless scifi dome helmet. shit looks straight out of destiny

>>96126033
I think it looks okay but I wish it either had more missiles or the missiles were bigger

>>96126068
>>96126073
Embarrassing, do you guys work for GW or are you justifying your own decision to buy? You don't have to defend slop releases, that's how you get more slop releases in the future.

>>96126061
Those ghurish tribes lived for far too long in peace (on top of future realm stone mines) time for some demon-cratization

>>96125990
>big thick stocky dwarfen DREADQUAKE mortar loaded with a fuckhuge bomb by a slave ogre
>>96122848
>small thin flimsy duardin tormentino bombardilo loaded with fairy dust by a magic wand

the estrogen quota hits again

>>96126033
I liked the mortar version. What I hate is the daemon eggs. Maybe I could paint them as shiny obsidian or gems or an Eye of Sauron type thing but it annoys me that the challenge is there in the first place

>>96126068
It's not like these are going to sell more than tennish boxes. Most of AoS is dead on arrival and this will be particularly bad.

>>96125932 (OP)
>TQ
Summarizing my thought on all revealed units amd the army as a whole:
>basic melee infantry
They're alright. Bodies are good, weapons are not to my liking. Will be pretty easy to convert to something I really like though.
>basic melee character
Like the guy. Looks properly evil, his gem beard is cool
>blunderbusses
In a vacuum they're alright but I was most looking forward to them, so a bit dissapointed
>bull centaurs
Both variants look great. Good variety between them too. Probably the best part of the range (as expected)
>priest character
Like them, again nice to see a good bit of variety in between the two build options. Like the one guy's tablets, and the other guy turning to stone
>big dreadnought thing
Probably my least favourite part of the reveal but it's not the worst thing ever. Personally would've gone for a mixed melee/cannon build, two of each looks kind of weird. Would've preferred something more like the destroyer
>taurus
Yeah this is kind of a weird one too. The statue thing is kind of interesting but not sure if it pulls it off ? Going to have to think about it more. Characters look cool tho. Sculpted smoke effect looks like shit but that's always the case with gw.
>artillery
Actually quite like both. Not what I expected and I would still like to see a mortar type thing in the future but these ones look good too
>hobgrots
Pleasantly surprised, thought the kb ones looked ugly as sin so didn't expect anything, but they actually look good.
>underworlds
The HR Lady dwarf is actually kinda cool, she looks like a proper bitch. Rest of the kit is fine too.

Overall they're decent but not living up to the hype. Better colours will help.
Thank you for reading my blog post

>>96126055
You really think anyone wanted that overpriced piece of shit? There is a reason legion of Azgorh was never anything but a meme.

>>96126072
>chorfs should be blocky and loose pipes, pure function over form
That has nothing to do with the nu-chorf design, so I disagree. The real problem with the artillery is when you compare it to the giant robot, the gun/flamethrowers infantry, and the huge stone bull. It doesn't feel like it was built by the same culture as the rest of the range.

>>96126075
agree to disagree but this is more in line with what im talking about
heres another example, less clean lines to the armor and more plate, more brutal
idk something about the new models just seems too clean to be proper hashut followers

>>96126094
>Is the ToW faggot again
Yawn yeah, sure AoS dead, AoS bad, look at my cool square base dead shit... We got it faggot.

>>96126087
I'm not even planning to buy the new chorfs, I'm just telling you straight up the old ones look like shit. They always looked liked shit.

>>96126055
Shut the fuck up chud we own this board

>>96125932 (OP)
>Helsmiths of Reddit

>>96126092
>>96122848
That really is it eh. Maybe that's the issue. They intentionally removed masculine elements from Chorfs. Funny how a Bull God has been feminized for his inclusion in AoS.

>>96126061
Tony Stark doesn't get enough shit for being Tony Stark.

>TQ
Very whelmed. I wanted Chorfs and got Chorfs but I feel they could have been way better. I can see what people say when it looks like it comes straight out of WoW Burning Legion, they could have looked a lot more heavy metal.

>>96126137
>straight out of WoW Burning Legion
I remember the burning legion... I mean the legion of Azgorh.

>>96125988
It looks pretty - what can it do?

>>96126072
That has never been Chorf aesthetic

>>96126137
they probably wanted a colour scheme distinct from Khorne and Fyreslayers

>>96125988
such a silly fella, he is great

>>96126106
>the new models just seems too clean to be proper hashut followers

>>96126146
Yeah the colour scheme on the priest made me immediately think "That's just Gul'Dan in WoD/Legion". Someone posted a red/black scheme in the previous thread that was miles better.

>>96126042
Cant discuss it with aosfags, they love pauldroncore too much to have any taste.

>>96126166
The more classic Chorfs vs Forgeworld Chorfs get posted the more I have to agree that Classic was better and I'm glad AoS leaned more in that direction..

>>96125932 (OP)
They look like shit, imagine unironically paying hundreds of dollars for dyke dwarfs and scrapped world of warcraft raid bosses lol

>>96126173
Butthurted TOW fags should leave to paint some groincloths lmao.

Range ban Brazil

>>96125932 (OP)
>TQ
I have waited 15 ish years and apparently this is an uncommon opinion but I LOVE them.
Was so scared they'd go for an adjacent aesthetic and fuck it up, but I love the burning-crusade art deco rendition of the mesopotamian Dwarfs.
My condolences to those who waited as long as me and don't like them, but I don't care. No amount of complaining can change my mind on the fact that I like them.
My only complaint if any is that I don't like the armor on the standard centaurs that much, and I would have liked the Taurus to be flesh. Don't hate it as stone though.

>>96126180
Dont talk to me or my Dominator Engine son ever again >:( He is precious

>spends years shitposting about chorf return
>they're finally here
>6.5/10
Alright what now

It's over...

There is a second wave right

>>96126209
Werent the bulls supposed to be fire bulls? Why go with square-looking bulls?

>>96126196
this does look like an ugly mob from black temple so if that's your thing good on you

>>96126159
In doing so they ended up making them way too similar to Skaven. I might try an inversion of Fyreslayer paint scheme; mainly black/dark grey with deep red trim and orange highlight to give off a dirty coal fire smog idea?

>>96126220
Nope

same designer as ossiarchs
same dead release schedule

>>96126235
>same designer as ossiarchs
that would explain a lot

>>96126230
During the trailer they show that the guns aren't even circular, they've got gay oval barrels.
Irondrakes can make better "blunderbussies" than these.

>>96126230
First off, don't use the female heads.
And then paint it in a different color scheme?

>>96126209
Kino!

>>96126253
improves it but doesn't get it over the bar to be worth buying, painting, and fielding

>>96126094
Hahahaha

>all those women Chorfs without beards

Fucking called it. Fuck you GW holy shit.

Is there an AoS army that is more elite in not having huge mobs of chaff, has decent shooting and is not Stormcast? I feel like Ogres might work, but Skaven are tempting me with a shooting heavy list too.

>>96126253
>First off, don't use the female heads.
Bold of you to assume there are enough bearded heads.

>>96126287
So I don't get it, do you want women WITH beards or just no women.

>>96126130
Is that why there’s massive shirtless bullmen and not massive shirtless bull women

>>96126230
That looks like an orc with down syndrome.

>>96126297
That’s what chaos does I guess

>>96126288
You're just describing Mawtribes

>>96126295
Female dwarves MUST have beards (real or metal one), but GW are cowards.

Reposting this alternate colour scheme mockup from an anon in the previous thread (good work btw)

>>96126288
Elite and shooting is kind of rare in AoS. Maybe a seraphon dino list could work.

>Its another “please give me more naked men” episode
I hate reruns

>Helsmiths of Hashut
HoH or HSoH?

Why wasn't the Blood Bowl team forced to take female representation?

>>96126295
I want no women. Chorf lore is specific about how chorf women are pretty much property or belong to some sorcerer prophets harem.

>>96126288
Rats can do an army of renown of all rat ogres, with thanquol and some other moulder stuff.

>>96126312
... Or just don't have female dwarves

>>96126288
Cities is currently like that, kruleboys, KO.

>>96125989
Retard

>>96126319
HoH

I don't see a reason to make it longer than BoK, DoT, HoS and MoN

>>96126319
HoH

also hammers of hashut is now an illegal name because hammers are illegal in chuardinia unless you got a loicense for them

>>96126324
Well there's also the guard of old pissed off chorf women who can't give birth and are personal guard

>>96126312
This has been done, it looks stupid and awful.

>>96126290
Good thing we live in an enlightened century and have access to 3d printed bits.

>>96125960
Not only are old recasts better models, but they are also cheaper, only a fool would downgrade to these

>>96126324
Really? That’s was chorf lore? I know in Babylon they treated whores a bit like how Japanese used to, but with even more care because they were a lot more varied in their fields outside of just being a Hole, and for that they were crucial for the community.

>>96126347
Yeah that’s gross.

>>96126348
Why would someone buy or make 3d printed bits to try and fix such shameful downgrades instead of buying or making complete 3d printed proxies?

He sees you. He knows you. He doesn't like you.

>>96126347
I forgot about that regiment. It would have been cool as a one unit thing of all chorf women, instead of forcing diversity gender quotas on the rest of the army.

>>96126038
Cos it's worse than the previous minis? and it's crewed by lesbian orcs

>>96126146
>stealing my picture and my line.
Have the other one, too.
AoS continues to fail at beating the WoW allegations.

>>96126346
Amazing how they had those to choose from but instead went with the palette of brown, gold, purple with green OSL.

>>96126352
>crucial for the community
not really, no

>>96126363
Because the proxies dont look as good and are overall worse to work with.

>>96126312
What secondary babble are you spewing? Warhammer dwarf women never had beards.

>>96126110
You have poor taste

>>96126324
>Chorf lore is specific
*but not to AoS

>>96126207
Settra's return.

>>96126369
Ey fuck you, dark iron dwarfs are cool as fuck

>>96126371
You don’t know jack shit then.

>>96126365
I mean I think it's neat for the people who want it, and I imagine they'll just be bonus heads so you can just have as many generic beard guys in big hats as normal. They're all squat and wearing bulky armor anyways so it's not like you're gonna have to worry about seeing their tits or anything. I don't understand the issue but clearly it's more of a personal thing.

>>96126385
I like Dark Iron dwarves too, but they can stay in Warcraft, thank you very much.

>>96126306
Sadly that is what I thought. Love Ogres, don't get me wrong.
>>96126313
Dinosaurs are pretty cool, thanks for the suggestion, Anon.
>>96126325
Interesting, I will look into that, thank you.
>>96126327
Cities interest me, but the fact that they are all Sigmar focused has killed some interest. Kruelboys seem really cool and have some interesting monsters as well as ranged units. They are new since I stopped in 2e. Thanks.

>>96126372
Objectively wrong on both accounts, so wrong in fact that it's impossible for someone to be accidentally wrong by this much, which makes you a purposeful delusional bootlicker as the only other alternative.

Shame on you.

>>96126372
But the proxies mog these sculpts

>>96126390
I don't care if you know jack shit, I know actually real stuff, not revisionisms.

I know selling etsy shit is 15% of your shitholes GDP, but i'm not gonna buy your recast no metter how hard you flood the thread

>>96126404
Shit if resin wasnt such a terrible material Id to balls deep in that bullussy

>>96126404
ugliest model i've maybe ever seen

>>96126423
You're not going to buy this plastic bullcrap either, fake frog.

>>96126283
I disagree.
>>96126290
They did this with cities and the new KO, it's not bold to assume they are continuing the trend.

>>96126398
What kind of retarded mental gymnastics you have to go through to claim that working with cured resin is easier than plastic?
Also, post the proxies you are talking about. All the ones posted so far are trash.

>>96125979
>estrogen dwarf infantry
>world of warcraft robot
>gul'dan from warcraft
>roblox taurus
>monopose hobgoblins
I shit you not bros the only person interested in this army at my local store was the tranny

>>96126423
>lacking arguments, the liberal reveals his true colors

>Chorfs got DEI ratios

Fucking grim. Waited all these years for nothing

>>96126441
>3rd worlder posts about recasts and proxies 50 times
>surprised he gets called out on shilling

When was the last time /aosg/ was actually happy with a release? i mean without the obvious trolls

>>96126440
I'm not sure it could've gone any worse desu. And there I was yesterday, encouraging some little chorf bubelein that everything would be fine.

>>96126452
Recent soulblight gravelords were well received. Maybe some mild complaining about barrow guard not looking different enough from baseline skellies.

>>96126423
I can't believe I didn't think of this. The release is threatening all the third world ESL people's business, that's why they're sperging out.
They can cope all they want, but they know they won't beat the plastic crack. They can call everyone one a shill and a consooomer, but it changes nothing.

>>96126324
I wouldn't actually mind chorf women - provided they were in line with, and reflected, some aspect of the culture and the species. As an example, absolutely no baseline warrior females, but something like a priestess of Hashut that buffs would be fine.
That being said, I think a unit of widowed chorf women looking to prove themselves and keep their husbands' property could work. Have them be heavily armour and ranged focus, with low leadership and shit melee. Their goal is to survive, so they have no interest in getting into the thick of it. Similarly, a suicide squad of lower-class chorf crones past their breeding years could work as well, as Chorf society wouldn't consider them to have any value.

>>96126452
Skaven were almost perfect, so were vampire counts. Flesh eaters are imprccable.

>>96126452
There hasn't been a releas without obvious trolls this decade

>>96126452
This board will never be happy

>Chorf guns look like plastic toys with a fantasy WoW coat of paint instead of cool demonic guns

How'd they fuck up this hard holy christ. It should have been a home run.

>>96126466
>I wouldn't actually mind chorf women - provided they were in line with, and reflected, some aspect of the culture and the species.
>As an example, absolutely no baseline warrior females
Based. I agree. Hate the cultural war on femininity.
Also, it's so simple to just not use the female heads, lol. If they didn't include enough male heads I would be sperging out, but looking at all the recent unisex units -it's always a choice.

>>96126452
you are confused you think this faggots crying about chorfs are actual AoS players? go check the ToW general and you will see the truth.

>>96126452
vampire stuff was cool, gitmob was fine outside the doom diver, new nighthaunt guy is alright
chorfs just look like shit man, this isn't a case of "they complain about everything" this time

>>96126467
>he doesn't remember the endless spam about blood knight hands or some other pointless detail
Every releas has the same fags spaming several images they made. This thread already has reposts of last threads spam folder fuel

>>96126452
I was happy when DoK got Kraethusa.
I was also happy when the Scathborn were shown.
Can't really speak for anyone else.

>>96126452
>IDK
Good but the army has structural issues that spoil the releases.
>deathrattle
good
>skaven shit
good
>gitmob
Ehh
Most releases have been good lately. It's just that the last 2 were stinkers.

>>96126452
The ones who are angry are the TOW imbeciles (they hate Cathay and almost everything new) and the Doomsayers.

>>96126476
>It should have been a home run.
That's like half of the shit GW puts out for mainline games these days. How do they keep dropping the ball?

>>96126489
You're right, blood knights were shit. They had forced women.

>>96126439
No mental gymnastics needed, you are the one suggesting to use printed bits to fix the plastic shit as well.
You can't pretend resin is a good solution there and then flip around to say resin is suddenly not a good alternative the moment people didn't consoom GW.

Still not completely sold on them but after seeing some edits in red and gold the default colour choice is really tragic. What the fuck were they thinking.

>>96126446
Anything to avoid staring at the mirror huh.

>>96126489
>pointless
How's the fact the blood knights' arms are thinner than the skeletons' a pointless detail?

>>96126505
Can you desaturate the gold/bronze/brass?

>>96125970
just wait until you leave your mom's basement

>>96126452
Literally never. You learn to tune them out after a while, the schizos literally never represent actual valuable opinions that are worth listening to.

>>96126532
>actual valuable opinions that are worth listening to.
As opposed to "consoom this new thing, women are optional"

>>96126546
valuable opinions? On this website? On this board? In a war-hammer thread? You overvalue yourself

>>96126431
yeah lesbian orcs look way better

>>96126546
I'm not advocating for anyone to buy Chorfs, but they can if they want to. I'm just rightfully pointing that listening to your schizo rants is about as productive as striking up a conversation with a mentally agitated homeless man in an alleyway.

>>96126425
Resin is great for 3d prints, it's when it's done for fiddly parts it's not fun

>>96126479
For me, it's not just a cultural war on femininity, it's a war on creativity. If everyone is capable of doing everything, then it all just becomes the same bland slurry. In older Fantasy and 40k, where you saw the individual sexes, and the roles they assumed, told you a lot about each faction/species.

Human females are weaker than men, so in the Empire or Bertonnia, you'd never see them as state troopers or men-at-arms, but you could see them as mages from the colleges or damsels in service to the Lady. An exception to this rule would come in the form of chaos worshipers or vampires - both of whom benefit from supernatural enhancement to their physical capabilities. Conversely, female elves were quite common across roles. Why? Simple, super natural agility, an affinity for magic, and longevity which provided enough time to have kids and master any skills they wanted.

I just want some actual fucking thought put into this sort of thing. It adds so much to the world, but so many writers just can't be fucking bothered.

>>96126505
I wasn't sold before but honestly seeing them how they're supposed to look makes them so much better. Admittedly I can't paint for shit but this makes me want to try.

Also I wonder if they'll be semi-cross compatible with kruleboyz and kragnos considering Kragnos is big stompy and bullish.

>>96126464
Lol guarantee tho old chorfs will remain in every catalogue, these are no competition, even the perry chorfs are better sculpts and they are 30 years old

>>96126505
Like 100 times better. Change the beard gems to diamonds though. Need to see the basic melee infantry swapped.

I mean its Chorfs alright
I guess

>>96125953
I love these guys. I wish that the whole army used this aesthetic with the Hashutaar helmets.

>>96126505
Everytime, it's the paint job bro! Lol no, it's the mini, no amount of paint will make that retarded gemstone beard armour look good

>>96126050
For legit fodder that does look great

>>96126505
Not sure what it is but the weapons look all wrong to me

I kinda wanna loot that bombard for my ironjawz

>>96126568
>>96126576
Basic guys also improve a lot but still need a swap imo

...why would they release warcry rules for the hashutites if warcry is getting a new edition?

>>96126604
It's the stupid ass eggs
>>96126614
This makes me a lot more confident, we can just paint them as jewels or something

>>96126570
Fantasy is odd in general. Recasters are a whole lot more interested in preserving old models than necessarily what sells. Like it's still not even particularly hard to find the old pre big had dwarf renegades (some of which humorously also didn't have beards).

>>96126623
very obvious last minute thing to show they care, I guess. Im guessing its digital only too.

>>96126623
Disregarding the part where we don't have dates for any of this.
How would the sentence be different if they were getting rules for the new edition vs current?

>>96126599
They look great imo, don't understand the hate at all.

>>96126604
Aside from proportions and size the design of the weapon isn't practical or useful in any way.

>>96126201
it can dominate me any time it wants

>>96126614
Whats with all the gemstones? Are they effeminate or something?

Here's the big bull dreadnought thing, probably the most controversial of today's designs
Im just ripping all this shit from reddit by the way, if you tards want to check out all the models redone in a more classic paint scheme

>>96126693
Are you a retard?

>>96126452
Skaven

>>96126703
Are you effeminate or something?

Hashut not even trying to beat the "subset of Khorne" allogations i see

>>96126698
bleh, maybe the whole body done in brass.

>>96126721
Who do you think makes the armor anon?

>>96126698
Needs a totally different head I think

>>96126698
This is irredeemable

>>96126663
>How would the sentence be different if they were getting rules for the new edition vs current?
It would acknowledge such an update, for starters.

>>96126754
Mommy khorn forces it to painfully grow under the skin of her chidren until it bursts out

>>96126755
it could probably be headless too

>>96126755
I think the head is the best part. Not sold on the proportions of the body.

>>96126698
I can't envision this thing walking

>>96126675
There are a ton of different directions chorfs have gone in the past, and plenty of people wanted to run them wanted each. So regardless of what direction they went, a large portion weren't going to get what they wanted. The studio paint scheme was also genuinely atrocious. And, to a matter of taste, the minis are faaaarrr from GW's best work.

>>96126698
I don't think I can ever like this one, and I think the problem is the pose. That semi-squatting pose with the stumpy legs that kinda makes me think of a great unclean one.

I think I had a similar reaction to the Dreadknight's stilt-legs, despite not actually minding the baby carrier myself.

Should I sell my dreadquake mortar?

>>96126789
No one will buy it if im going to be honest anon.

>>96125953
There's nothing wrong with these but
>I don't know why
You should, I don't know, read the lore? They're Dwarf Mutants, that's why, they have beards because they're what beastmen look like if they're dwarfs.

>no real arguments against these sculpts that isn't made up shit about wow, cad or women
>reception outside /tg/ is good
>feral perrynigger and his cohort seething
its kino

>>96126698
I think it's supposed to intentional look like it would move quite slow and thud around real heavy.

>>96125953
Mmm hope we get some cow ladies imagine one stomping on your chest while riding your cock and calling you chorf slurs

>>96126772
I know but you can't replace a whole body, I'm thinking how to cope within the context of buying the existing models

Now that nu-chorfs are out and revealed as the unmitigated disaster we have dreaded, I will finally cave and purchase the chorf DLC from Total War: Warhammer III to enjoy the faction as intended.

>>96126795
>You should, I don't know, read
The site is filled with illiterates that use deepai to translate this board anon.

Amazing 10th anniversary celebration

*puts gun in mouth*

I'm not sure about the mech. But as someone who likes chaos dwarfs and is obligated to like all of them from the 1980s ones with the Juggernaut/"dwarfs with spikes" to now simply because chorfs never get a foot in the door, I think these are surprisingly decent for age of sigmar's style. You got the sorceror, you got the hats, you got the artillery. It doesn't try to reinvent the concept or the wheel, which is something I feel age of sigmar often tries to do and fails at. It's just chorfs (2020s) and that works for them.

>>96126813
You know it never occurred to me we have a bunch of retarded kids who have AI literally do the thinking/reading for them. Future is bleak.

Which is funny since my job is correcting mistakes made by AI, since AI/LLMs suck at actually learning. I OWN them.

>>96126783
Chorfs, Chaos Dwarfs, are the most "take whatever you get" fanbase in warhammer. There is almost nothing GW could shit out that Chorf players would not gladly accept, simply because each incarnation of the army is totally different from the last release due to 10+ years between each release.

>>96126778
>>96126786
I imagine it kind of slowly and painfully lifting its legs sideways and waddling about. Not unlike how they supposedly moved the moai heads.

>>96126797
NEWGOOD NEWGOOD NEWGOOD NEWGOOD
>but
NEWGOOD NEWGOOD NEWGOOD NEWGOOD
GET EXCITED AND CUMSOOM

>>96126698
The problem is that it has two legs. If it had four legs it would look better.

>>96126721
>vash'torr
>hashut
>sa'raa'um
Khorne didn't invent fire, weapons or killing you know.

>>96126614
>>96126505
There's actually nothing wrong with these sculps.

>>96126838
Rigt now it's a stending cow. With more limbs it becomes insectoid

Oof, these are some rough sculpts. I guess I could salvage some of it with some extensive reworking, shaving down surfaces, swapping weapons etc. Not sure it's worth the hassle.

>>96126817
I feel like its the one singular guy who is still obsessed with this.

Anyways, what did fantasy battle get for its tenth anniversary back in 4th edition?

>>96126845
>Khorne didn't invent fire, weapons or killing
No, but he represents them.
Like i don't think it's a stretch to say killing is in murder god's domain

>>96126847
>With more limbs it becomes insectoid
no, it doesn't, centaurs aren't insectoid at all

>>96126797
Looking on Reddit it seems more mixed than reveals tend to be over there. Like the HH and Votann reaction threads are nearly entirely positive, the chorf one is like 60/40 or 65/35.

Ok but why is hashut's animal a cow do chorfs love getting their little chorf nipples milked?

>>96126869
Dakka is also mostly teppid to negative

>>96126856
>Anyways, what did fantasy battle get for its tenth anniversary back in 4th edition?
A cohesive and cemented setting.

The chorfs are a huge fumble. 2012 Videogame ass shit

>>96126876
Chickens and pigs were taken

>>96126883
>A cohesive and cemented setting
>4th edition
>warhammer

How will lumineth cope with a new cow in town?

>>96126830
I am a chorf fag in TOW, but I can't say I really like them. The cannon and centaurs are solid and I do like the direction, it just feels like GW really did not put their A team on it.

Why didn't you save him, anon ?

>>96126890
I cannot possibly imagine the problems you have during reading with those extra chromosomes in your eyes.

>>96126881
I don't know how Dakka is typically but Reddit is a good gauge since they are generally very positive. Like even with how much bitching and moaning there was about 3e hh, a lot of the comments about the new jump pack dudes is shit like 'I guess I am gonna whale after all'.

>>96126883
Pfffttt, lies, coping and butthurtness.

>>96126847
It literally becomes a fucking cow or centaur.

okay, so between the green and purple paint scheme and the complete lack of anything resembling a berserker or axe, i think we can safely assume a few things

1: them not having any kind of berzerkers or axes and avoiding flame colors means they dont want to step on fyreslayers toes/aesthetic, which means fyreslayers are sticking around

2: them not doing the traditional red and gold chorf scheme means they want to differentiate them from the old chorfs or legion of azghor which to me indicates that the old ones in some form or another are going to the old world and they will get the resins and/or metals in the future.

it might be trying to read the tea leaves a bit, but i think those are some fairly sturdy inferences from why the new chorfs studio scheme looks so weird and why they dont seem to have a lot of the usual dwarven fire and axe flair.

>>96126904
says alot when you cant actually speak on the 4th edition setting of warhammer fantasy.

>>96126869
>>96126797
I think it's the spears. Spears aren't a very chorf weapon. Should have been guns with knives on them, like the infernal guard.

>>96126867
Sa'raa'um is the demon of the world of Sarum and represents weapons, hashut represents fire, vash'torr machines. Khorne isn't the boss of all these things, he's the god of bloodshed and war which isn't necessarily killing.
>murder god
KHORNE IS KHAINE CONFIRMED

>>96126913
Apart from that one fella who glazes every single AOS release, dakka is mostly normal people giving their honest opinions.

>>96126868
>>96126922
Centaurs have prolonged bottom torso, not symetrical dots. If you meant "add twice as much volume to the model" then it's more than just slaping extra 2 legs on a biped

>>96126895
They are chaos dwarfs, GW would not put their b team on it either. But the sorceror is solid.

I was really really looking forward to the dark and bleak aesthetic of chorfs coming to a modern game but I’m disappointed in how rectangular they made the hats and weapons. Skaven/Skryre have the artillery and chaos tech theme down better. Also they don’t have the weird desaturated purple color. Everything is just way too fucking angular and square.

The giant bull mech looks like it’s about to take two steps then fall over cause it can’t catch itself fall wit those double gun-hands. The Taurus also doesn’t look like a machine. It’s more of an animated statue or a Jade sculpture. If it’s not a daemon or magical creature, then where are the vents or pistons or rivets? Juggernauts look more chorf than the new Taurus.

I’ll probably buy or print a character and see how I like them afterward.

>army box is 10 dudes, 1 character, 1 artillery and the golem

YJK that shit is gonna be like $240

>>96126923
the first is true, the second... eeeh i dont see them reintroducing Chaos Dwarves into TOW.

>>96126923
They've got plenty of fire flair it's just stupid and green
As for your interferences... maybe ? Good observations but it's kind of grasping at straws a little bit like you said. The gw team is not exactly known for their stellar colour choices in general.

>>96126931
>infernal guard.
Those are elite. What we got are the basic bitch mooks so far aside from the bulls.

These are the moments where one appreciates what they did with lizards and ratmen. Dodged a giant bullet.

>>96126903
>bull shaped magic-stuff gets magically stuffed to power up a bull shaped robot
ghur : tamed

>>96126923
>them not doing the traditional red and gold chorf scheme means they want to differentiate them from the old chorfs or legion of azghor
Have you considered for a second that there is another red + gold Chaos faction currently actually in production?
Don't you think differenciating them from it is a higher priority than looking different from shit Forge World stoped selling years ago?

>>96126939
Their most recent incarnation for minis was a finecast mini line locked in a campaign supplement in a game that was floundering, and they flopped even by that standard.

>>96126924
Maybe you can't, faggot.
I bet you don't even know what the 4th edition looked like and think it was like 3ed.

>>96126976
Clan verminus?

>>96126990
keep proving my point anon.

>>96126976
Maybe GW could be less fucking dogshit.
Chorfs also have black and blue accents to stand out against the red and brass, you can't mistake them for Khorne.

>>96126937
Don't be a fucking sperg, sperg, nobody with a sane mind would suggest that or think anyone would be suggesting that.

>>96126989
nta, but I think he was trying to say that even GW's B team is too good for Chorfs. C team at best.

Now that the dust has settled, why did the Helsmiths of Hashut flop?

>>96126996
pretending to have a point is not having a point, go open up the fucking guide to the warhammer world instead of asking to be spoonfed as if it would prove your shit eating grin knows its shit.

I thought you guys would love Chorfs. What happened?

Still waiting on that tzeentch pity hero gw. Or maybe my beloved chaos warriors…I wonder what they would even be called, they’ll have to live up to the arcanist tag I guess.

>>96127055
They look like shit.

>>96127044
No, they dont. Go away.

>>96127055
I like them. I will buy an army set.

>>96127055
I guess I expected them to look like either of their previous incarnations and not like whatever the hell you would call the mess of a range we received.

>>96126948
Agreed. There's almost nothing in the release that differentiates them from fantasy chorfs. If there was any effort towards putting chorfs in fantasy they would have been reimagined in a significant way.

>>96127061
>I wonder what they would even be called, they’ll have to live up to the arcanist tag I guess.
Arcanist Bird Fuckers of Tzeentch

>>96127055
I’m pretty happy with them, I get the impression it’s mainly schizo ranting.

>>96127016
Yeah I'm putting axes on my chorfs these look great
>>96127061
Well we've seen the whole roadmap from lvo revealed by now, they'll probably put out a new one in a few weeks. Any predictions ?
If chorfs come out around october I'm guessing they'll want the rumoured nurgle or CoS sizeable releases around christmas. I could see stuff like seraphon and a destruction faction inbetween.

>>96127055
turns out they made them look like shit and not like chorfs

>>96127055
I’m pissed because after Cathay I was expecting more. The cathayan artillery and walker guy looks leagues better than what Chorfs got. Did we get a new sculptor to do Chorfs? Compare this guy to the cow walker. What the fuck is going on that we get the b teams work?

>>96127111
Maybe they’ll put out a roadmap at lvo? When’s that?

>>96127121
They literally both look like toys.

>>96127121
I am curious to see what proxy use this and Cathay see more broadly lol.

>>96127121
The specialist games guys actually have passion for what they do. It's why the new MESBG sculpts are so nice.

>>96127128
The Cathay model looks like a statue. The Helsmith model looks like a Warcraft boss. I’m actually gutted I was so hyped for Chorfs.

>>96127111
Nurgle and Seraphon, Or Seraphon and Nurgle are the rumors I've been seeing recently. Past that I doubt anyone really knows.

In general, the armies that haven't seen battletomes yet are Nurgle, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, Ogres, SoB, OBR, CoS, LRL, Sylvaneth, Seraphon, DoK and Fyreslayers. So like half the armies waiting for updates are order armies.

>>96126976
hasnt stopped them before, hell their current scheme of purple and brass is basically just kharadrons poster theme for brokks fleet

>>96127044
Where to start?
>effeminate ornamentation
>strangely proportioned weapons
>low-poly WoW-styled centerpieces
>women in combat roles
>black people in combat roles
>no slavery
>unfortunate paint scheme
>hideous art

>>96125988
I wonder if this is going to be a $40 hero or a $68 hero.

>>96127144
Cathay was literally a handmedown from total war. A boring handmedown, but one nonetheless

>>96127165
I wish we got hand me down Chorfs because the TW people clearly understand them better than the AoS designers.

>>96127169
Meh. Cathay’s visually boring. There’s a reason they needed three center pieces, of which they expect you to spam multiple of.

>>96127123
Early october I think
>>96127144
Eh they get plenty of stinkers too. Remember the foot knights ?
>>96127148
I'm pretty neutral about cathay but the sentinel is undeniably kino. Will maybe pick it up as a gargant proxy. Although I've heard that they're not very well put together.
>>96127151
There's seraphon rumours ? Any idea what to expect for my beloved dinos ?

>>96127165
The grapes aren't actually sour.

>>96127176
I guess if you’re a historical Luddite who can’t recognize the love and detail put into all their armour and weapons. Maybe Helsmith wow designs are more your speed.

>>96127179
>Remember the foot knights ?
I try to forget.

>>96126942
I agree with almost every point you made here

>>96127180
I really wish the ca team just copied off of three kingdoms. Cathay is so fucking boring man. The peasants at least, were done okay in the game. Drums too.

Chaos dwarves sounds cool, why go for that reddit name

>>96127180
these guys were the only dud in the range for me, especially the cavalry captain. giga boring, even compared to the normal cavalry squad for the army, nevermind comparing him to the shugengan lord or something like a cavalier marshal or harbinger of decay

>>96127193
Helsmiths rolls off the tongue better.

>>96127193
because old world gets all the old school names, and the old chaos dwarfs are going to old world

>>96127193
To own the name. Chaos dwarfs is probably too vague. Helsmiths probably isn’t owned by anyone because it sounds like the name of an off brand Etsy chaos dwarf range sold by a user called something like “ WARFORGE “

>>96127193
If there's one thing I'll grant towtards it's the sigmar naming scheme sucking. I can't believe the squig knights are called boingrot bounders man
>>96127198
For me it's the opposite, the gate master is one of the few I actively like instead of just being neutral on, while the shugengan looks the worst to me (alongside miao's dragon form)

>>96127185
It’s homogenized slop. I wouldn’t call it love either, not with a “sensitive team”.

>>96127228
Not at all homogenized. You have clear references to historical Chinese armours that vary from model to model, going as far as even using mythical/legendary armour found in Chinese myths and legend for the more fantastical units. The detail they put into the aesthetic of Cathay clearly shows they cared. The lore may be bad, but the aesthetic is GOATed.

>>96127193
Chaos Dwarves is too simple, vague and evoque nothing. Its like calling Skavens "Chaos humanoid rats"

>>96127193
From a strategy perpsective, no longer any dubiousness to copyrights. In game, according to the presenters they don't see themselves as aligned with chaos.

>>96127254
Helsmiths sounds like a cringe boomer heavy metal group name.

>>96127254
HAIL RAATMA

So who flopped harder Chorfs or 3.0 HH?

I wonder what our resident horse autist would have to say about these guys

>>96127288
HH 3.0 easy.

>>96127267
You unironically just fucking sold it one me for good
>>96127295
I want to rape the lady gem stomach.

>>96126799
We never get the ladies where it counts... No cow centaurs, no tzaangor hens...

>>96127295
would he? those are deers, not horses

>>96127288
HH is a storm in a teacup. People are too invested and will cave eventually. Chorfs will be yet another financial disaster for AoS, further devaluing GW's most unpopular IP.

>>96127193
They decided that their name is zharrdron
except kharadron included -dron because they were skyborne, while now they just decided it's a naming convention for dwarfs like -neth is for elves

>>96127318
We got a female kairic acolyte if that matters in underworlds

>>96127327
>GW's most unpopular IP.
You mean ToW right? You know the shit that already was killed once

>>96127295
I really love the Kurnothi but I think it's insane that they aren't ToW models when they have such similar armour and design influences as the 8th ed Wood Elf refresh kit
If you put them next to a Wild Rider they fit in but stick out like a sore thumb next to Belthanos

>>96127327
I don’t think so. The units are less of an issue for HH than 3.0 simply being a really bad edition in terms of core rules. The cover rules are mind bogglingly bad. I think Chorfs will be a financial failure but hopefully that alerts GW that people want fantasy kino aesthetics like with Skaven and not reimagined contemporary AoS designs.

>>96127343
Shhh, dont say that. The 30 persons who play TOW in the whole world get very mad about that. Let them believe their game sells more than AoS and 40K.

>>96127343
No, AoS has much lower demand and recognition. It's basically bootleg warhammer, good only for mobile game shovelware.

>>96127348
I don't think GW learns things considering they already have seen how KO and Fyreslayers have done.

>>96127333
Zharrdron helsmiths is a better faction name than helsmiths of hashut, but they wanted to keep that chaos factions naming theme going.

>>96127343
I mean LI is there limping along.

>>96127374
Helsmiths have more effort put into them than KO and especially slayers have had since their launch. If they flop it’s going to sting far more and more clearly than either of those two.

>>96127379
LI is truly baffling. I assume at this point they are just supporting it for another year or two so they don’t get accused of dropping it too fast post launch, but I have never seen anyone playing it or seen ads or stores hosting games.

>>96127346
Someday we'll actually get a Kurnothi army subfaction, like with Darkoath and Gitmob. It's just a matter of time.

Why are TOWheads shitposting here about chorfs? Didn’t they just get a new army?

>>96127409
I’ve been waiting for Chorfs for over a decade and I was unironically planning on getting into age of sigmar with them anon. I’m so disappointed.

>>96127409
Curiosity on AoS people's opinions. I have also played AoS before fwiw.

>>96127346
Tow doesn’t have furries

>>96127409
Don't worry I'm pissed about them too.

>>96127397
The problem with LI is that it is too limited in setting since it is relegated to 30k. A proper reboot of Epic/Space Marine would have had some potential but the GW production bottleneck and drip release would have fucked it I suppose.

I will say, I am interested in underworlds now.

>>96127425
The beastmen are there.f

>>96127409
They aren't, not all criticisms come from convenient boogeymen.

>>96127442
I haven't bought anything from underworlds for years, but I might actually spring for the Chorf/Kurnothi box.

>>96127409
They are spiteful creatures that hate everything. They hated Cathay (TOW) and laughted that AoS didnt get anything. Now they hate AoS gets Chaos Dwarves and hate they only get 2 new models for Tomb Kings.

TOW players are just miserable and pathetic. I hope GW realizes that they don't deserve to spend time and resources on TOW, because the players will hate absolute everything.

>>96127407
But the Kurnothi stuff fits in so badly with Belthanos, THE Kurnous guy in AoS. At least Orion in TOW is half elf

>>96127425
Anon not only does TOW have a furry, he is literally the mortal incarnation of Kurnous

>>96127464
But /wfg/ is positive about the tomb kings? even cathay models were well received, it was the fluff that was atrocious.

>>96127446
You just proved they are. I was curious from 40K and you’re making the same argument here word for word.

>>96127474
I don't disagree with you. I'm low key hoping we get either a Kurnous model or a more elfy champion to go with Kurnothi, but who can say at this point.

>>96127477
>Well received
Excuse me? I suggest you recover some of the post of Cathay release about muh women, chinks and overdesign, anon.

Some people there hate the big models, some hate the female heads, etc. But that's how this site is in general.

>>96127497
Okay but also people are bitching about black and female chorfs here.

>>96127477
>even cathay models were well received
Let's not rewritr history now, the thread was on fire. Not as bad as when the lore articles got releasdd (jesus) but they were controversial. Granted most people have acclimatized and it's mostly seething about the fluff now.

>>96127497
Cathay was pretty much positively received on the model front. You’re straight up incorrect. You had bitching from perrynigger but he will complain about anything to rag on fantasy or gw. The lore was panned and to be fair it’s shit, but the models were very well received.

>>96127477
cathay was more well received in the aosg than the wfg, also the only cathay models i've seen posted so far have been in this thread.

So what’s the cope going to be when Helsmiths flop? That’ll be how many in a row now? SBGL, Gitmob, IDK, Helsmiths?

>>96127477
Im sorry but "Not Warhammer enough", "Woke chinese", "women in my army?!?!" "so many center pieces" and "overdesigned".

Ha, i remember they said the same with Gitmob. They cry about games that they dont play. Can they be more retarded and resentful?

>>96127579
You’re really obsessed with this game. Maybe you should get a hobby, pick up a box of these flopped boxes maybe?

>>96127551
>Granted most people have acclimatized
Having been around for a while now, this is honestly the story of basically every new army.

New stuff generally gets heat because it's new, but after a while it's not new anymore and everyone except a few shizos get over it and move on. Fast forward a few years and most people have forgotten it was even controversial at one point. Time heals most wounds, basically.

>>96127517
Theres not a single black chorf tho

>>96127593
>Fast forward a few years and most people have forgotten it was even controversial at one point. Time heals most wounds, basically.
It happened with Fatcast, it can happen with anything.

>Underworlds army is unironically girlboss and black men as chaos Dwarfs

It's funny how I fucking KNEW this would happen. Fucking christ GW can't fucking help themselves

I really like the new musician. I really wish chorfs just shared units with kruelboyz, and ironjawz, but the little things like the said musician does add some sovl to it. I await to see the sprues.

That preview wiped out the vast majority of our rumor engine images didn't it?
How many do we have left?

>>96127419
Im yet to hear any negativity outside of this thread, some criticizm, but for example in the telegram groups i pirate my books and stls from, everyone seems to be happy

>>96127608
This is the first girlboss model I actually like

>>96127594
Retard
Literally has the black people hair for their beard and everything. Fucking DEI diversity quota trash

>>96127612
>I really wish chorfs just shared units with kruelboyz, and ironjawz, but the little things like the said musician does add some sovl to it. I await to see the sprues.
I feel there's a non-zero chance they might have some Regiment of Renown crossover. But smarter odds are that you'll be pinching units from other chaos rosters.

>>96127622
This is just funny to me

>>96127618
Yee I've seen some criticisn outside here but nothing like the sky is falling negativity going on in HH.
>>96127622
I don't feel particularly certain if that's supposed to be actual black or in the same gray skin most the models have.
>>96127594
Told you.

>>96127622
>the middle eastern amy has blacks
I sort of understand complaints when it's about !noteurope factions but middle easterners have been slavetrading for millennia, if there's one place they're allowed to show up it's there.

>>96126364
>Forge
goddamnit I am so tempted to do KO but I have to finish my Cities army

Sshould I just get the Regiment of Renown and say that counts towards the 2,000 points of Cities?

>>96127657
It also doesn't even make sense what race people are when most the historical allegory of fantasy isn't even in AoS anyways.

How you feel about female dwarfs in chords? You think they are ported better than KO?

>>96127055
if you go look at the thread while the reveal happened, you'll see a lot of people talking positively about the models.

The postivity just got drowned out by the miserable fucks who insist on making everyone else miserable

>>96127622
>they aren’t black they are dwarfs with different skin tones!
>nappy black hair
Kek. Anglo race fetishism is wild.

>>96127682
Chorfs already had lore about female warriors in fantasy. It might have been cool to see them as a specific unit but I don't really care much.

>>96127295
>crescent-shaped blades on the end of the tails
those are fucking Andalites

>>96127692
why are you people so fucking weird about this
you're like actual freaks who can't possibly function in society

>>96127692
I think you are reading too much into a few mushy sloppy strands of beard my friend.

>>96127682
Not really a fan of dwarfs without beards, so I'll just use the heads that come with beards.

>>96127696
it's not you people, it's literally one guy who is obsessed with "anglo race fetishism"

>>96127696
They either don't have any social life or know to turn it off.

>>96127706
He outs himself every time. I can't imagine being as miserable as he is.

>>96125932 (OP)
Overall, I like the chorfs a lot. People bitching that it isn't exactly what they wanted was inevitable. Only thing I'll criticize are the paintjobs and beardless chords. Normally idgaf about mixed gender units, but the beards are too iconic to not have in key units like the melee and ranged infantry. Hopefully they have enough head options that it won't be an issue

>>96127682
They look funny, not really dwarfish. More like a small ork. Oh well, you can just not use the heads.

>>96127672
i would say get the RoR and see how you like it, then if you're really feeling it, expand from there (those are all core units for a KO army so there is no wasted purchase)

KO are one of those armies that looks great on a shelf and table, but the reality of how complex the ships are to build and paint and the hassle of dealing with the flightstands is a very real, very serious problem that requires forethought (which i didnt have) or fixing (which is where i'm at lol)

fantastic models, but you're talking a lot of sub assemblies and hobby chops to get them on the table.

>>96127756
I've built a 40k Knight or two before, subassemblies don't scare me, I thrive in the subassembly.

But I hadn't thought of the flight stand issue before. Yeah not sure what to do with that

Today was a big letdown. I play 3 of their games and not a single release interests me. Lame all around. Can’t believe marines got 5 different boxes for their different colors.

I’m selling my chaos army in 40k for the chaos dwarves. I really, really want more of the buff dwarves. Same for the hobbos. I wonder if I can convert fyreslayers into chaos dwarves with the leftover bits.

>>96127697
How do you look at that beard and not realize that it's a black person's beard anon, it's not sloppy, that's hair their hair actually grows.

Also, is there a photo shop edit of the centerpiece bull as stone, or Marble?

>>96127756
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

>>96126319
HH

>>96126383
Lmao aos lore is 99% a reskin of TOW. Its like picking a batman toy, saying he is the reincarnation of batman but is now in the realm of gothits fighting against no-joker.

>>96127901
I kinda hate that it's made of stone. It's too angular and blocky. The whole army is too angular and blocky so it all looks like WoW shit...

>>96127944
What's WoW?

>>96127952
World of warcraft, local retards have very weird definitions of what Warcraft and MOBAs are

>>96127944
I don’t really see it.

>>96127963
The art style is undeniably Warcraftesque

>>96127968
Id understand if you compared it to trench crusade, not whatever this is.

>>96127579
Define flop? These days people fling that word around just if a box-set doesn't sell out

>>96127971
Congrats, you beat the schizoid racist for dumbest take!

>>96126698
Someone played darksouls 2 and though smelter demon was peak design.

>>96127944
That's fine, I like wow shit (sometimes)

>>96127971
Trench crusade is mudcore grimderp. Helsmiths are very cartooney but also self serious. Like Warcraft.

>>96127851
>Can’t believe marines got 5 different boxes for their different colors.
Marines are the bread winner, no shit they are going to get as many releases as possible.

>>96127988
>fantasy
>cartoonish
>Its literally WoW
I have some bad news for you about what Warhammer is

>>96127981
I think GW also is intentionally trying to produce enough to have boxes last past launch.

>>96127999
It's the generic self serious cartoony wow style. Not the whimsical cartooney animated earlier warhammer style. The entire range looks like it could have been made for a mobile game race.

>>96127982
It’s almost the same design. Hell, both are inspired from Babylon i think too.

I am sure a box with a hero, ugly minotaur dreadnought, 10 dudes and the worst artillery ever created for any Warhammer game will sell very very well.

>>96128012
Whats even peoples problem with the artyllery?

>>96128012
It almost feels like they either put the lowest effort into it possible, or intentionally wanted to sabotage it so they could say "LOOK SEE? PEOPLE DON'T WANT CHORFS!!"

Like, no, people don't want these abominations that look like shitty forced diversity chorfs with WoW aesthetics.

>>96128015
He’s just exaggerating. He hasn’t seen what 40K has to offer.

>>96127696
Woman argument
Disregarded

>>96128015
Are you trolling?

>>96127971
It's very superficially similar to the brazen bull but not as much as the brazen bull is to the stormfiend

>>96128018
Yeah dude GW make things that they don't want to sell

>>96128026
it's not an argument it's an admonishment
here's another: you are a retard

>>96128035
its a cart, with rockets on top of it, and a dozer-blade like design, what exactly is wrong?
I do agree that the cannon one loooks better tho

>>96128037
Anon it's well known that the design/rules team and the finance team often butt heads because of design/rules team being petty faggots.

Best example is that faggot Cruddance for 40k.

>>96128035
I want it.

(You can tell which anon is the same guy because he keeps typing in a certain way)

Really gets the noggin' Joggin'.

>>96128053
Yeah it’s sad

>>96128015
It's really simple and not interesting to look at. It doesn't have the diabolic appeal of the hellcannon or the gubbins and mechanisms of the forgeworld stuff.
>>96128048
>its a cart, with rockets on top of it, and a dozer-blade like design, what exactly is wrong?
That it's just a cart with rockets on top and not some kind of complex machine.

>>96128012
If anons on /tg/ were even half the market experts they think themselves as, AoS wouldn't have survived to its 1st anniversary, never mind the 10th.

>>96128005
>the dudes wearing capirotes covered in crosses are babylonian

>>96128048
It's not cool looking at all. It doesn't look industrial like Chorfs had in ToW, it looks too flowery like it's some sort of wierd Elf artillery. It should be big, bulky, and actually look engineered, like the iron daemon trains or dreadquake mortars in Legion of Azgorh. That was peak Chorf artillery design, and everyone said that if Chorfs get put into AoZ, they should use that as a base, and GW as usual ignored everyone's advice to give us multiculti shit and ugly artillery

>>96128035
I don’t see anything bad about that rocket launcher care to elaborate? Are you mad about the colours?

>>96127828
magnet baron makes sturdy strong magnetic flight rods specifically for the kharadron ships and balloon boy infantry, though they tack an extra $100 onto your armies price tag all said and done (like $15 per ship last i checked, and about that much per 3 balloon boys)

otherwise mounting some large trees or rocks to the base and anchoring the boat onto them with wire is another option. some people have also gone for more creative solutions

>>96128066
>That it's just a cart with rockets on top and not some kind of complex machine
they could put it on a train, i would prefer that,

>>96128076
So you’re saying you wish it was overdesigned?

>>96128083
Nta but the dudes bother me and the rockets are ugly.

>>96127901
i could do one up. marble might be a bit tricky but stone should be easy. gimme a minute

>>96128092
Not him but yeah actually exactly that

>>96128092
I wanted gubbins and bolts and heavy industry designed war machines yes. Those are cool as fuck and everyone agreed that they were cool as fuck, yet GW ignored that to give us this weird shit that looks ill fitting. It was all such a sure thing of how to do it and they bungled it hard.

>>96128076
Are you on drugs? The Legion of Azgor rocket launcher was like some sort of Chinese shit made without 0 industrial or technology elements, in fact was very similar like Imperial old rocket launcher, the new besides looking a lot better is much more elegant and show the appropriate combination between daemonic smith and technology, your brain is rotten by low quality designs

>>96128096
well then wait for the next wave. This was just the basic stuff. Even in total war the cannon/foot troops werent that elaborate. The only real "elite" part of the army were the bulltaurs. My real concern is how/if they plan on fleshing out the hobgoblinsa at this rate.

Frankly I'm mad that there's nothing daemonic and fleshy like the back of the hellcannon being machinery fashioned from organs

>>96128076
they could go the Forge world deathshrieker route, and make an abstract piece of resin that looks like nothing until you paint it, or the Totalwar/olschool deathshriker thats just a tube with a rocket on 2 wheels, its okay as the middle of the road solution

>>96128113
hellcannon is chaos warriors stuff, with chaos dwarfs just as an explanation, none of actual chorf stuff ever looked like that

>>96128129
>none of actual chorf stuff ever looked like that
To be honest I was less interested in seeing old chorf elements and more interested in seeing daemon engines since they're my favorite warhammer thing

>>96128129
Chorf stuff used to look heavy metal. Heavy, dirty, industrial. They feminized the Chorfs a lot and I don’t mean the women. They have these weird straight angles everywhere now and have so many jewels on them they look like the Warhammer Ed Hardy shirts.

>>96128147
Is this as big of a pain in the ass to assemble as it looks? Also they didnt adapt the train yet.

>>96128161
It looks pretty straightforward to assemble, but it is resin

>>96128095
>>96127901
what color you want the gemstones and rider?

also anyone else got any other color requests for this thing while i got the file open and masked out?

>>96128168
>It looks pretty straightforward to assemble
What part of that does? Is the platform itself just one piece?

>>96128184
>what color you want the gemstones and rider?
Thats actually a rough one. Try something diamond like, or maybe obsidian?

>>96127963
>World of Warcraft
oh shit, I've heard of that. My dad used to play it.

>>96128147
>Chorf stuff used to look heavy metal. Heavy, dirty, industrial.

>>96128220
>Chaos dwarves used to have beards!

>GW refreshes skaven line
>"We decided to look into the original art and models of the skaven army from WHFB 4th and modernize them in a tasteful and well-designed way"
>GW refreshes chorf line
>"fuck it throw everything there used to be out the window, remake them entirely from scratch and make sure they look exactly like every chaos dwarf STL on the market"
>"also make half of them black"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>96128270
>>96128147
These posts feel like falseflags to discredit any actual criticisms of the models

>>96128270
It's funny how rewatching this trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiHvsinEn58

and seeing CA show more respect to Chaos Dwarfs than GW does. CA showed a proper respect to both the original iterations of Chorfs, and then integrated their FW counterparts in a seamless way that was fucking awesome. Then you got GW who remove all references to slavery, make half of them black and women, and make the models weirdly angular and not heavy industrial looking at all, and it hardly looks like what the chorfs who came before at all. Also the new gunner units are a fucking travesty. Those blunderbusses look like total fucking garbage, they need to be proper BLUNDERBUSS GUNS with chaos gubbins, the shit we got is horrendous...

>>96128270
lol people were upset that they DON'T look like every Chaos Dwarf STL on the market.

Fuckin hell I know you guys just love being unpleasant for the sake of it, but at least get your bitching on point

>>96128293
>not heavy industrial looking at all, and it hardly looks like what the chorfs who came before at all.

>>96128293
>make them black
True. I tried painting a skeleton the other day but GW forced me to lather it with paint that resulted in a black man.

How do new chorfs rank in monkey's paw warhammer moments?

>>96128317
>Ignoring the part of my post where I said CA integrated both the old and new chorfs in their iteration in a way that worked well and showed respect to both.

Faggot, learn to read.

God why are we falling for it again please stop.

>>96128330
Nta but its kinda hard to take anything you said seriously.

>>96128326
Pretty dire, but I knew this was gonna happen. I am unironically a poster in the original AoS threads on this shit board, and constantly posted about how I wanted Chorfs and was excited for them because they kept referencing them. As the years went by, I stopped posting about them, because GW started doing the stupid dei and gender bullshit with their models and I realized that because they took to long to get to chorfs, that when they DID come out, they would also suffer because of this, and sure as shit, I was proven right.

>>96128337
No one posts like this.

is it wierd to say all the chaos dwarf models look like skaven models on first glance due to the drab colors and bright green fires? I don't know how they could mess it up that badly when the bright red and gold was pretty iconic of a scheme for them

>>96128335
Then don't bother replying you faggot

>>96128330
And GW took the classic models and designs and iterated on them and AoSed them up

What matters is GW took Chaos Dwarfs and made them look like silly WoW designs, something that has never accurately described Chaos Dwarfs before now, not ever

>>96128343
Honestly, it's so hard to appreciate any positives the models might have with how horrid the color scheme is. I know there are a couple models here that are fine if not actually good, but fuck me does it require imagination.

I get that people are obviously shitposting and doomposting in bad faith but going "let me disprove your opinions (???) by posting old models and art" is also bad faith because you're not going to make someone like a design by comparing it to older ones

>>96128344
wuzzat?

>>96128161
>>96128186
https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/chaos-dwarf-assembly-instructions/25050

The cannon assembly is annoying to get lined up but the rest is simple

>>96128343
No, it's a valid observation. It's almost the same purple as the robes on the new skaven warlocks.

>>96128197

>>96126452
I like the Chorfs.
I also bought Krethusa just because she's a sick model.

>>96128387
Just noticed his beard isn't coiled. What the fuck man.

>>96128270
Like people were positive on the skaven releases when they came around?

>>96128387
Alright, I can dig that. Honestly the bull itself is nice but the wings are awkward.

>>96126924
Based Cruising enjoyer

>>96128102
Literally nothing in the new range is heavy industry coded, so you're just gonna have to cry and get over it because they very clearly didn't go in that direction at all.

I honestly thought Chaos Dwarfs were going to be a big flop, because Chaos Dwarfs were a big flop the last two times they tried them.

But seeing the general positive reception to them everywhere and the unhinged batching here, I think GW might have finally made them work.

Third time's the charm, I guess

Now I'm getting mad that I can't like the chorfs like everyone else is

>>96128424
Yeah anon why do you think I'm upset? They look extremely generic and lame when we could have had cool heavy industry daemon engines. Maybe they thought they couldn't do that because they made Kharadron the super tech advanced faction, despite Chorfs being the most advanced in the old world.

>>96128435
Don't be upset anon, just because everyone seems to have shit taste these days doesn't mean you should to. I'm in the same boat, I really don't get why people are hyping them up, I have been waiting over a decade and I've been let down quite a bit by this reveal.

>>96128425
Uh yeah, reddit and dakka totally aren't heavily mixed. Chorfs totally aren't the most controversial range revealed going off comments on both.

Keep telling yourself Chorfs smashed it outside of here.

>>96128441
>chorfs
>most advanced
Anon even if we’re ignoring Cathay, high elves existed. He’ll dark elves and their ships are more advanced than anything came out of chaos dwarves.

Well Chorfs almost as hyped as Kill Team. Lmao.

>>96128467

>>96128441
Between Skaven and KO AoS already had two armies with similar technology/industry themes, and also there's no evidence that the forgeworld direction for Chorfs was popular or successful in the first place.

So they decided to try something new instead of just copying a failed product line, oh no. How shocking.

>>96128465
I forgot about Cathay and the magical perfect pixie dust asspull they got the past year. And I mean most Technologically advanced, yes. They were. The only ones that could compete with them on that front were arguably the Skaven and maybe Nuln.

>even bloodbowl received better chaos dwarfs

>>96128479
Unironically yes. These ARE better chorfs.

>>96128471
>23k
Oh no no no reminder Cathay had almost 100k views within 24 hours of the trailer dropping.

>>96128472
>there's no evidence that the forgeworld direction for Chorfs was popular or successful in the first place.
Yeah that's important to keep in mind. The Forgeworld Chorf line didn't exactly set the world on fire.

>>96128472
ntg but you're probably right
I was gonna say "skaven tech is just rickety shit that hardly counts as truly high tech" but then I remembered it's just because the WLC kit is kind of awful
I kind of wish it got updated

>>96128490
Nothing coming out of forgeworld was ever widely popular or adapted.

>>96128499
Krieg

Also Horus Heresy

>>96128499
Low visibility, availability and no meaningful support isn't exactly a winning strategy for any product.

>>96128479
Blood bowl is literally the best GW product there ever was, so its not surprising

>>96126876
Originally chorfs were based off ancient near eastern cultures, and a pretty universal thing over there is that cows and bulls were spiritually important.

>>96128505
New Krieg is very different, and Horus Heresy is literaly just more marines

>>96128479
No.

So why can't they hire the people doing the Old World cover art to do AoS cover art? Why are we stuck with the ugliest covers in any system?

>>96128545
It took them 10 years to get the setting in line for a reason. It’s a shame that they still kinda reuse a lot of art in the arcane journals.

>>96128475
I’d take you seriously if you only mentioned nuln.

We need a tier list of all BT covers.

>>96128557
What did you mean by this?

>>96128360
That looks like shit though

>It's MA'AM

>>96128562
see first sentence of the image in >>96125809

>>96128590
The champion model for the blunderbuss and the alternate model for the mount is honestly kinda cute.

>>96128604
Anon, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>96128635
The gunner models are so bad. Most of it was pretty meh but these are shit.

>>96128635
>champion models of units are always women now.

>>96128643
Stop noticing.

>>96128641
Why the fuck are they sleeveless?

>>96128635
>baggy eyes
>cute nose
What’s not to love.

>>96126596
There's something here that I like. I hope that future elite infantry follow suit.

>>96127464
They throw a fit over any release that "could've been theirs". It happens every time we get a new version of something they had. They also don't buy or paint models, at least 70% of the posters in /wfg/ are lorefag secondaries from total war who just exist to complain about things they werent going to buy. Closest thing outside the hobby i can think of is like the "car guys" with no drivers license who feel the need to tell you all about how you should've got the Shelby super snake instead of your mustang gt while putting their scarf on to wait at the bustop. Your average fantasy game looks like this. On the flip side, aos has almost no secondaries because there's no video games worth playing and the lore hasn't been around for 40 years to gather orbiters

>>96128646
Sun's out, gun's out, or you're a pussy. I don't make the rules

>>96128667
Damn bro I know Chorfs were a flop but you don't have to lash out at the days winners like that.

>>96128654
Why didn't they go with that maroon color from the HoH instead of purple
Would have been distinct from khorne while still being red

>>96128667
>critique certain new models in a new range
>VILE EVIL TOW FANTASY MAGGOT RAT
Meds now Mr. Consumer. No one is going to hurt company you can put the knife down.

>>96128541
>New Krieg is very different
It's not, they are extremely similar. the new Krieg models just have proportions more in line with other GW plastic humans

>>96128678
>>96128692

You guys keep saying chorfs were a flop but everywhere online that doesn't let you falseflag and samefag easily seems pretty stoked on them. Just take the L, nobody cares about your dead game, but we will absolutely take all your factions and put them in the hands of people who will actually build and paint models lmao. You can't even scrape together 50 people to play tow at the biggest miniatures convention in the world

>>96126033
How do they load this thing

>>96128541
>New Krieg is very different

>>96128693
>>96128746
Make that argument to a guard collector

>>96128756
If I wanted to talk to a nazi I'd post here

>>96128756
Are you trying to imply that a guard collector would not be on the spectrum.

>>96128735
DO NOT look at overall tournament data for AoS and Old World. DO NOT think about AoS tournament counts dropping like a rock globally this edition. DO NOT compare the two broadly for the sake of your own mental health. IGNORE that 4th is killing AoS in a quantifiable manner.

>>96128641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiHvsinEn58
/v/ - /tg/
1-0

>>96128735
That event was at capacity silly.

They basically made Chorfs into Skaven 2.0

>>96128779
Thats just factually not true.
I fucking despise the 4th, and most people i used to play with have moved to warcry because of it, but it is objectively more popular when it comes to tournaments (Or it was half a year ago, havent been up to date)

>>96128789
Why does tow only have room for 35 players but aos has room for 200?

>>96128789
I was there, and no it wasn't

>>96128800
Each tow player takes up the room of 5.71 aos players and they need to keep the aisles clear for fire safety

>>96127425
They have 2 furry races, and a scalie race.

>>96128800
Because if you read the event sheet you would know it was a casual tournament with beer and pretzels type scoring not an actual competitive event.

Now that the dust has settled, how can GW salvage this army?

>>96128905
You keep talking about the dust

>>96128884
Lol cope

>>96128884
So why was there no competitive event at adepticon for tow but there was for aos?

>>96128862
Lmfao

I’m just going to say what we are all thinking. What a disastrous new direction. This is going to be a flop of monumental proportions.

>>96128976
your bait is terrible and you should feel bad about it. Even baiting on /v/ wont help you.

hes got the wrong general

>>96128862
Chuckled.

>>96128965
You just don't get it. It's more popular despite less sales, despite less tournament attendance, despite any measurable metrics.
Just trust me

All the TOW grognards coping, crying and doomsaying hahaha

>>96128862
I haven't actually laughed out loud at a 4chan post in a while

If i get the extra cash I will probably get one of these boxes.

>>96129098
I kinda wanna get the Khorne regiment of renown box. Just wish they used the other priest.

>>96128905
Hobgrot hero and cav
Bulltuar heroes
Skullcracker and !stank train
K'dai enslaved demons

>>96128635
>>96128641
>it's another dwarf gun that works without ammunition or fuel because "magic"
So sick of this shit

My main problem is the regular ass ranch bull iconography. They should've given Hashut a design similar to a bull but not literally just some farm animal.
Bull robot.
Bull mask bulltaur champion.
It just looks stupid.

>>96128735
>>96128800
Why did you post a tournament from 2024 but post the AoS tournament from 2025?

>>96129172
>I venerate my god with a fucking nose ring used on domesticated farm animals
I know Warhammer is a gag game but this takes the piss

I feel sad we didn't get any roadmap, however shitty and unreliable that might be. On the other hand I'd probably get disappointed that my army wasn't on it.

>>96129189
When’s the next event? Lvo?

Its funny to see how TOW has absolutely mindbroken some of you retards, it's literally all you're capable of thinking about and posting kek

>>96129189
We know evetyhgin till the end of the year. End of summer you'll get undead, end of autumn you'll get Chorfs.
Roadmap will drop during new year preview

>>96129207
They have 4 weeks of releases for AoS, with 1-2 per month minimum it's not much and they could just drop both battletomes simultaneously given it's a pity release like KO/Khorne

>>96129225
>1-2 per month minimum
They are defineitly not releasing 2 books per month on average, we'd be done with the whole roster within a year

>>96129206
I like that Cathay lore and no chorfs broke every tow player so bad that they need to shitstir in the aos thread to feel better lmfao

>>96129225
Lmfao editions would last a year you retard.

>>96129262
>13th July
BoK/KO

>>96129278
>24 armies
>1-2 months per army
>a year
based retard

>>96129270
Literally no one was expecting Chorfs for TOW. It was the most obvious build up ever, retard-kun

Le magical daemon egg energy source is the most offensively juvenile concept I have seen in a while and feels like a cheap copy of warpstone
They've replaced fire and industry gunpowder weapons with magic crystals come on man

>>96129305
Shut up and buy the slop

>>96129305
Bro its AoS, anyone who didn't expect Chorfs to get AoSified on every level was a fool

>>96128654
I don't get why the horns of hashut can't exist in this range

>feels like a cheap copy of warpstone
chaos dwarfs and skaven are being written as literal cousins now, since both hashut and skavor are sons of gazul

>>96129339
Is Skavor even canon anymore?

>>96129365
an omission isn't a retcon, so yes, it remains a canonical ancestor god of the dwarfs of the old world, and the myth related to him and the creation of the skaven remains the canonical story of how the dwarfs of the old world think the skaven were born.
but it's unlikely that anyone in the mortal realms would have the same story, but hey they're mentioning gazul again, so maybe whoever researched about him to write the chuardin book will also have read about skavor and could hopefully integrate this element to either write the hashutees in the most direct competition with the skaven beyond "we both do tech", or even write them as occasionally weirdly fraternal allies, or just as a way for them to insult the normal dwarfs by bringing this forgotten lore about their race to them.

>>96129303

>>96129290
On average. We're 5 books in on month 7

>>96129303

I genuinely can't wait for Chorfs. They're going to be next army after Maggotkin.

>>96129187
It's because "bull" you retard.

>>96129502
>>96129526
literally noone with a brain

>>96129502
You could dig the archives and find at least one retard claiming anything.

>>96129502
>>96129526
>literal proof that the whole TOW community was holding their breath for Chorfs in TOW despite them being hinted at ad nauseam in AoS
2 60 IQ retard anons on 4chan arent really a good example, but sure go ahead, take this is as le epic AoS victory in your gay console war

>>96128692
Plenty of normal people unhappy with chorfs but let's not pretend there's not a mass of butthurt towtards and /v/ermin everytime anything for aos gets shown off.

>>96129782
>mass of butthurt towtards
that implies towtards have numbers, don't be more retarded than they/them

>>96129517
9, 10, 12 have been the mid year battletome count for past editions so I'd expect more than the revealed eight we're expected to get this year unless Warcry or campaign book surface.

>>96129782
Sorry sweetie but it's /v/ermins who calling the shots

>>96129546
Yeah, a domesticated bull. Wild bulls don't have nose rings retard

>>96126939
Lol no, it's awful

Has anyone got a pdf of the new IDK battletome?

I like the Chorfs.
Am thinking brass armour, purple for magic and red for cloth.

The only problem is it will be a similar colour scheme to my DoK

>>96127687
>only my opinion is right
Lol
They are bad sculpts, no amount of cope or paint will change that

>>96127851
Same, what a disappointment, the kill team is good, I'll be getting recasts of them, but the rest is bad, chorfs got destroyed

>>96129824
Hashut isn't a wild bull, the whole characterisation is about taming the wild via force now.

>>96125932 (OP)
Why do they look like nagash cultists?

And have they seriously avoided red flames to not step onto the feet of the fyreslayers?

>>96128425
Delusional

>>96128425
>because Chaos Dwarfs were a big flop the last two times they tried them
They weren't, by all accounts we have they were never left behind because they failed to sell.

>>96129863
>Why do they look like nagash cultists?
Because they're dark purple

>>96129692
>>96129559

>>96129559
>>96129564
>>96129692

>>96129692
>>96129559
>>96129564

>>96129187
it has a nose ring as a reference to art from sumer from a billion years ago brainlet.

>>96129902
>shitpost
>>96129907
>wishlist
>>96129913
>talking about the old models

Man, you're bad at this

>>96129926
Nta but why are you here just seething about a game you don't play, genuinely asking

Meh they look fine with a classic red or black scheme. Bunch of crying over nothing desu, there really isn't even that many kits here. Its like a half of range of just the basics. 9 is small for a full army launch at this stage of aos.

>>96129947
I'm not.

>>96129947
schizo

>>96129902
>>96129907
>>96129913
literally none of those posts are people saying they expect Chorfs in TOW lmao, did you even read the posts or just hit Ctrl+f and screen capped anything that said "chaos dw-", embarrassing that you actually waste your time going through the archives just to score an own goal

>>96129980
nta but literally all three of them say that. It's hilarious that this is enough to make you have a meltdown, though.

In the stream they said the dwarfs ancestor gods essentially inherited the realms and distributed them between themselves
>grugni -> chamon
>grimnir -> aqshy
>valaya -> ghyran?
>gazul -> shyish?
>hashut -> ghur
>?????? -> azyr
>?????? -> ulgu
>?????? -> hysh
it would make sense if they didn't have anyone in hysh or ulgu if they considered the elves as already managing those realms in a civilised manner, but they must have had someone in azyr, since sigmar only met the ancestor gods AFTER the great betrayal that likely involved hashut leaving that realm-assignment

any ideas?

>>96129947
>>96129999
Subtlety must be your second name.

>>96129980

>>96130012
Uh oh towfag melty lmaoooo

>>96129999
>post 1 - a shitpost not meant to be taken seriously
>post 2 - Chorfs WOULD be nice, hypothetically speaking
>post 3 - idle speculation on factions that might return to TOW one of which could be Chorfs
>not a single post authentically believing Chorfs are legitimately coming to TOW
Reading isn't your strong point is it Rashid?
>nta
sure thing bud

>>96130025
Who is rashid

>>96130021
You left some pixels in a different colour, retard.

>>96129920
provide one example of sumer art with a nose ring you presumptuous brainlet who's never stepped foot in a museum

>>96130033
standard of ur, first depiction of nose rings.

>>96130031
trying too hard

>>96130036
wrong

>>96130006
Azry could be associated with Thungni
Ulgu could be Skavor since none of the other Ancestor gods are at all associated with sneaking and shadows.
Hysh IDK Smednir?

>>96130042
prove it, cuck

>>96130045
You cited it, why don't you look at it? The only bull on it doesn't have one you

>>96130052

>>96130053

>>96130052
>he stopped at the first picture on google search
Look at the other side of the standard you smoothbrained fucking mongoloid.

>>96130055

>>96130056
donkeys are bulls now huh

>>96130052
That's a nose ring there, anon, compare to how the nose of the goat is depicted.

>>96130063
nose rings on domesticated animals are nose rings on domesticated animals

>>96130065

>>96130069
bulls were sacred, it's not a reference to sumerian bulls having nose rings because they never did
cope

>>96130078
Were they Bulls or Aurochs in Sumar?

>>96130071
You can see the circle, anon, unlike with the goat, that's a nose ring there.

>>96130088
aurochs weren't extinct then but distinct from the domesticated cattle so

>>96130094
That's a nose, have you ever seen a cow? They may have depicted nose rings on the chariots which aren't drawn like that

>>96130078
>it's not a reference
Oh god here we go again with you fucking retard, just because you hate AoS it doesn't mean stuff isn't a reference, the kruleboys reference the greenskins, the spiteriders reference grasshoppers and the helsmitsh of hashut reference the sumerians, deal with it and stop whining, /v/ermin.

>>96130105
>the helsmitsh of hashut reference the sumerians,
Isn't it more likely that this is referencing the Chaos Dwarfs, which themselves reference the Sumerians/Assyrians?

>>96130099
>That's a nose
no, it's a ring, if it was a nose it would be drawn identical to the nose of the horses and goats, but it isn't, it's the same as the rings on the horses, just squashed because there's no space since there are other figures closer up in front, that kind of deformation is common in old art forms, even on the standard you see figures changing sizes depending on position.
it's also pretty unilaterally considered a ring in the interpretations of archaeologists, you can disagree, but that doesn't make you right.

>You also get 32 Warscroll and Enhancement cards in the launch box.

>dominator engine
>tormentor bombard
>deathshrieker rocket battery
>infernal cohort
>infernal razers
>hobgrot vandalz
>bull centaurs
>anointed sentinels
>daemonsmith
>ashen elder
>war despot
>demonsmith on infernal taurus
>urak tarr
this is 13 scrolls, leaving 19, how many enhancements are there usually in a tome? can we infer whether they have to reveal models for spells and scenery from the number alone?

>>96126346
yeah no the paint scheme isn't the problem, they're just bad, and in virtually every possible way too, impressive

>>96130191
>the paint scheme isn't the problem
it exacerbates the problem, which is the flat and angular surfaces and the excessive and uncharacteristically bright trims and decorations
once you paint them in a way you can't see them, they can pass as chaos dwarfs when squinting

>>96130212
Maybe, and some simple knife work would help too, I think the helmets could be made much better with alterations or removals to the front panels. The weapons however are a lost cause

>>96130218
How are Nerdcrones against magic?

>>96130236
They're soulless and completely inept at wielding or understanding magic, but their founding conflict was against the old slann and the eldar, who waged war predominantly with magical means, so they ended up developing quite a few hardcounters by weaponising an antimagical mineral.

>>96126346
I like the new chorfs (enough to probably make them my second army), but I'll admit the boxart paint scheme isn't very exciting. I'm looking forward to seeing what the community does with them

>>96130230
>or removals to the front panels
I don't think that's really needed, the shape of the front panel is innocuous, it's the weird choice to color code them as gold that breaks the silhouette of the hat and makes it look like some dark elf headgear rather than a tall chimney-like hat.

What about this guy?

>>96130313
What ABOUT him?

>>96130313
It looked weird to me until I read he's a special character, which makes him tastefully extravagant instead of just out of place, still, not that stellar, it manages to crawl up to a 7/10

>>96130313
I dislike the hat and he should be generic but otherwise 10/10

>>96130313
I've been asking for a FEC falconer for years so i'm happy

>>96130313
He has the same problem I have with all the ghouls in that he looks like a chimpanzee. I can see why some people would think this is very cool. But I don't not think it is very cool myself. Strangely, I like all the other monkeys

>>96130426
Have you honestly. Cool if so, just seems a little out of nowhere imo

>>96130313
ghoul refresh when

>>96130443
Go check the archives. I just imagined he'd have a carion bird like a vulture to match the carion feeder army theam

>>96130443
Some guy called it exactly a thread or two ago I think

>>96130501
>>96130540
Thats cool. Always fun when you get the stuff you dreamed of

>Battle in the Mortal Realms is spreading across Ghyran as a new General’s Handbook situates action in the Realm of Life. No verdant copse or blossoming meadow is free from the clatter of blades, and even sacred groves are defiled. Nestled deep within the continent of Kurnotheal lies the Spitewood, a dense weald of trees and briars filled with the treasures of the long-dead god of the hunt.
Hopefully there will be a little bit of location fluff in the expansion, if only as much as previous settings like Harrowdeep and Deathgorge got. Kurnotheal is one of those places that has been around in the fluff since 1st edition but has never gotten a close look.

>>96130581
Ghur, Ghyran and especially Aqshy really are GW's special boys aren't they. I feel like all of the game's narrative stuff takes place in those three, with shyish sometimes popping up whenever nagash is up to something.
Hysh only gets mentioned in relation to loomies.
Ulgu is just straight up ignored. (Thematically appropriate I guess)
Azyr is in the no games allowed cuckshed.

>>96130651
Gitmob is from Hysh

>>96130651
Don't forget the continued neglect of Chamon, also. It's home to several major factions but almost never gets mentioned in the major fluff or campaign events.

>>96130685
It's because they have no idea on how to characterise the realm without making it sound lame or flanderised or as cringeworthy as the first maps
>mercury lake
>there be rains of swords
>my [40k conversion OC] is from here
aqshy is so full of stuff that the inhabitants matter more than the realm, ghyran is practically the normal realm, while ghur is like ghyran but savannah

>>96130685
>realm so irrelevant I forgot it
Another rough one. They get some attention early on with it being the "main realm" for tzeentch and kharadron but they haven't done much with it. Even the token free city of chamon sucks. Maybe we'll see it more with chorfs but apparently they're connected to ghur ?

>>96130685
Chamon was part of the 2e climax

>>96130748
They were part of the Realmgate Wars too, but still overall it's one of the least referenced realms.

>>96130674
Droggz is and his band but not the whole species

>>96130767
Every race exists in every realm, that doesn't change the fact that Gitmob are explicitly tied to Hysh.

>>96130775
One faction of Gitmob yes

>>96130780
THE MAIN FACTION, yes. And they all just happen to use Hysh weapons to gather sunlight, but they're totally not tied to Hysh, totally.

You realize it's exactly the same for every other army, right? The main faction is always located/from their home realm.

>>96130767
I'm pretty sure it's the whole subspecies, the sun stealing aspect they all have is from there.

Which way siggies

>>96130809
>shit model left
>good model right
Man, so hard to decide.

>Cheng Semenovitch continues to shill proxies

>>96130811
Define what makes it good, its boring, its safe, its shitly posed, its dull, its not intimidating

>>96130792
>>96130797
Hysh is the sun of ALL realms you lorelet, they can harness it with their shields everywhere

>>96127263
hold up, their bull deity isn't chaos alligned

>>96130767
Main faction is the most important one.
There are Ghur Ossiarchs, yet you're not gonna argue they aren't a Shyish army

>>96130835
The main faction is based in Aqshy, it's leader comes from Hysh. Gitmob are everywhere

>>96130824
GW has facilitated it.
Mantic dwarfs always have had orc slaves
now gw evil dwarfs have orc slaves, which look way more like mantics orcs than any orc in warhammer ever has, just making proxying easier and less of a stretch

Why Gitmob didn’t had their own book?

>>96130835
To be fair it's not always that easy
Skragrott's main lair is in chamon but it's not like gitz are really a chamon-themed army

>>96130854
Why Kruleboyz? They have twice the kits

>>96130849
Are you serious

>>96130827
>Hysh is the sun of ALL realms you lorelet, they can harness it with their shields everywhere
They specifically use artifacts forged in Hysh to absorb sunlight, you lorelet

why are the new Hobgrots hunchbacked? will the KB Hobgrots get squatted?

>>96130863
Because they were supposed to be Orrin sidekicks in the same way goblinos were but Gitmob and Gloomspite look like antithetical factions

>>96130827
>Hysh is the sun of ALL realms
yeah, but the learned to do that while in hysh, because that's a hysh lumineth thing, dumbo.

>>96130871
source: I made it up

>>96130849
Kruleboyz ending up with cooler lookig hobs is pretty funny given all the lore about how chorfs only give them faulty leftovers

>>96130849
>he thinks chorfs never had green slaves before
>he thinks hobgoblins are orcs
I can't even call you a /v/ermin because even they know about this shit from total war, you absolute 40kid faggot

>>96130892
Slittas make their own armour and get grenades from Chorfs. Vandals seem to be entirely equipped by Chorfs.
No clue why all the Chorfs Grots are half the size of slittas and hunchbacked though

>>96130892
because those hobs arent slaves. the new hobs are literal slave fodder, the krulehobz are more like a mercenary company

>>96130892
I really don't get the need to waste one kit to make a second unit of hobgrots.
they're definitely the least liked members of the warclans book and they could have perfectly been handed to the chorfs with a regiment of renown to keep them playable in destruction.
Or they could have made redesigned chorf black orcs instead, or a unit of enslaved beastmen since the theme of the new chorfs is to tame ghur and beastmen are the punching bag of everyone now.

It feels like a lot of missed opportunities all to chase an parallel with the old range that's in any case ruined by the design choices of armors and equipment for the new chorfs anyway.

>Hosts of preview: Chaos Duardin never use hammers, it's profane. This guy is an exception because he sacrifices Duardin priests, bathing the hammer in their blood as a cruel mockery of Grungni's symbolism
>Meanwhile hammers refurb throughout the rank and file infantry and even hobgrots
They really just let them say whatever shit they want

>>96130938
>helsmiths of hashut
>hammers are profane
Is gw retarded

>>96130926
Yeah, we could've gotten another Hobgrot hero or a distinct unit that expands the subfaction/s instead of Slittas version 2.
I'd have loved gun wielding Hobgrots in chorfs with a RoR for KB or something. Instead it's just a Slittas redesign with the same rules archetype presumably and if they get a RoR it'll be with Chorf shit too

>>96130938
Probably, but they're also most probably extrapolating things from bullet points handed to them and making stuff way more absolute than the fluff writers intended. The absence of hammers on the bull centaurs and the bull robot in favour of maces speaks of a deliberate choice, I'd say.

>>96130938
you really are just reaching for shit to try and cry about now aren't you.

>>96129827
I think it's not out yet

>>96130969
I just don't like the twats? They're such clowns

>>96130969
>NOOOOOO DON'T MAKE FUN OF GWS WORTHLESS SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGERS
go back

>>96130981
no one cares shithead.

>>96130981
They just read the talking points that were handed to them five minutes before the show, it's not like GW or anyone else expects them to know anything.

>>96130926
>or a unit of enslaved beastmen since the theme of the new chorfs is to tame ghur and beastmen are the punching bag of everyone now.
That would have been nasty for beastmen fans.

>>96130990
if you don't care don't engage then, you pavlovian bootlicker

Actually quite like the chorfs. The models evoke grim industry bereft of individuality. The temple warden bulls are cool, the footsloggers are good, the heros are good, and I love the mount because even though the color is not my style, it still rocks as an idol carved from stone to just stomp on faylerslayers. Stoic rank and file and hellfire magics is just what I expected.

Looking forward to the lore also.

>radukar is an ogor

>>96130955
Quite possibly, yes.

>>96130987
you aren't making fun of anyone, you don't even know what a hammer looks like retard.

>>96131008
Why does this read like the kind of fake empty praises that fake social media profiles leave as comments under botted advertising?

>>96131014

>>96131001
if you care then re-evaluate your priorities and stop posting. they're just doing their jobs and without them we'd only get trailers and images so you should be grateful. next you'll complain they gave wrong information in the informal casual Q&A sessions they did to benefit the fans
grow up man

>>96131031
the unit champion and the priest got a blood-signed loicense for their hammers

the grot is a filthy non-dwarf and the place of a hammer is in the hands of the slaves because they have to work and build stuff for their masters

>>96131040
Shut the fuck up, cuck.

I would dig the watermelons if smoke billowed from them ngl

>>96131061
>sculpted special effects on all models
no

>>96130938
I especially didn't like this because I was always rather fond of the LoA daemonsmith with the anvil-shaped hammer

They should've refreshed it
2025 and it remains unreleased and worse

>>96131163
Use a maulerfiend, same shit.

>>96131163
Wasn't half this guy recycled for a khorne demon or something

Only eight remaining rumor engines unsolved currently. Most of them look like AOS stuff. Why do you think they are?

>>96131197
>and worse

>>96131200
Why can't they just rename the spider incarnate and drop it as some other release

>>96131200
>spider incarnate (rip)
>no idea, 40k stuff ?
>40k stuff
>more vampires
>40k stuff
>seraphon ?
>...seraphon?
>khorne, maybe kharn

>>96131200
Literally all of those are part of the Demon Lord Khul

>>96131200
Isn't the bottom left part of the new Night Haunt model?

Kinda late to the party but the only thing I care about from this entire preview is these guys >>96127295 and I'll probably get them for my trees. I never liked any flavor of dwarfs in any setting really so I don't much care for the new Chorfs. They do feel like played too safe though, very boring even by dwarf standards. Get ready for assblasted towfags shitting up this general because aos got the chorfs and not tow though

>>96131253
No, he has a shelf

>>96131268
TOWfags wouldn't have wanted these chorfs, that's for sure.

>>96131200
Actually come to think of it, was there even a single chorf rumour engine ?

>>96131284
nope

>>96131163
Isn't that just a Maw Krusha?

Got a game in yesterday. I was teaching a new guy how to play, which is always fun. Felt good to put down my fully painted list into a grey tide. Give the new guy something to aspire towards.

>>96127295
Hopefully these and the other kurnothi warband get repackaged together as a new unit for sylvaneth.

>>96131311
Been the trend for a while now, GW hides the big releases by mostly releasing rumor engines for pity heroes and shit.

Drowned men expansion soon hopefully.

>>96131368
Nah, pestigors, hero and spell, that's it.