Chosen of the Dark Gods Edition

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>Warhammer Chronicles:
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>Time of Legends:
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>Alternative Models:
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>FAQ/Errata
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>Previous Thread:
>>96118375

>Thread Question:
What are you currently working on?

>TQ
Still trying to sell my chaos warrior army. I’ll probably use that money to either start dogs of war, whenever that actually becomes a thing. The fake leak mad them seem interesting. Maybe I’ll get the chaos dwarves instead if that box actually flops too.

>>96127820 (OP)
Nothing yet. I was waiting to see AoS chorfs before I kept working on converting mine. But with the announcement of a combined Empire Cathay army I might try getting a head start on that instead.

>TQ
I've been staring at my hobby table for like two months now dreading the mold line scraping cancer I have to do for my remaining models.

>>96127820 (OP)
>TQ
Still working on 120 zombies to start my VC army. I love the 90s plastic zombies like you wouldn't believe, though

>>96127902
Based fellow infantry chad. My finished Bret Exiles will have 150-something models on foot.

>Tomb Scorpions out of stock again
That's it. I missed the window. It's over.

>>96127820 (OP)
TQ
Working on glade riders, and continuing to craft 1k lists. I think this is my current 1k wood elf army.
212 - Glade Captain, Cavalry Spear, Wild Rider Kindred, A Befuddlement of Mischiefs, General, Great Stag, Mantle of Rebirth
85 - Shadowdancers, Spear of Loec
120 - Spellsinger, Wizard Level 1, Illusion, Oaken Stave
104 - 8 Glade Guard, Hagbane Tips
104 - 8 Glade Guard, Hagbane Tips
105 - 5 Glade Riders, Hagbane Tips, Reserve Move
91 - 5 Wardancers
• 1x Wardancer, Additional Hand Weapon, Bladesinger
• 4x Wardancer, Additional Hand Weapon
179 - 5 Wild Riders, Shield, Wild Hunter, Standard Bearer, War Banner
I have the glade guard, mage, and wardancers painted I'd like to have this all painted by end of summer.

BASTARDS, HOW DARE YOU SPIT POISON AT THE MAGNIFICENT CHAOS DWARVES OF AoS, I WANT TO SEE WHEN THEIR PATHETIC VERSIONS OF FANTASY COME OUT AND SEE THAT ALL OF THEM EXCEPT ONE OR SO HERO ARE THE MODELS THAT THEY RELEASED THE FIRST TIME BACK IN THE LEGANO YEAR OF THE 70s

>>96128020
How do you like the wood elves? I can’t decide between starting them and high elves.

>>96128042
Are you ok buddy? Do you need an ambulance?

>>96127820 (OP)
>TQ
The AoS chorf reveal is making me dust off all the old FW Legion of Azgorh stuff I picked up ages ago. Got two units of Fireglaives and two Infernal Guard that need to be shown some love alongside a few Bull-Centaurs and Daemonsmiths

>>96128075
Yes, I'm fine now, it's just that I was reading the comments of the new chorfs and what I saw completely "sauced" me, but I've already let off steam and I'm fine.

>>96127820 (OP)
Now that we are getting a slayer army of infamy how will they make them viable? Ward save? make them faster? How limited will their roster be?

>>96128063
I'm struggling to be honest but it's due to me used to playing beastnen for several editions so the lack of a mainstray anvil to spring my trap around has really hurt. That said
>wardancers are super fun blenders
>staglord/hero has produced every game for me
>glade guard do really well even after poison nerf I find hagbane does solid. I fight a lot of no armor/high toughness meta tho
>Eternal guard shit the bed for me every time. I see online they tend to have a few builds that are viable but I've come to accept wood elves don't have real anvil
>wild riders, sisters are really fun
I'd say if you like moving and playing trades while accepting things like magic missiles, flying monsters, super tough T4 infantry blobs are shit to play into but it's fun to run around and being annoying. Also I haven't played tree stuff which I hear fixes alot of the issues I mentioned (treekin are in like every batrep I see on youtube) so if you build smart I think you will have a lot of fun. And honestly I have a good amount of fun but there are things I don't enjoy so in short
>if you like running around, trying to set traps and going all in on 1 charge you'll have fun. I enjoy shooting, moving, and setting up charges or baiting enemy charges, and our Heros are super dope
>if you enjoy the grinding part or fall for bad units like eternal guard, warhawks, orion, you'll have a bad time. Also accept any unit over 1 round of combat =ded.
I'm a bit all over the place cause I've had some highs and lows. Definitely a high skill ceiling I haven't hit fully.

>>96128346
It'll be a flavorless slop list like what 75% of the arcane journals provided.

>plenty more arcane journals over the next few months
What did they mean by this.

>>96128361
Post models

The cover art for the two new arcane journals is WAY better than the cover art for the AJ's that have already come out.

>>96128569
Is this a dogwhistle?

>>96128513
Probably more more lore driven AJs including new AoIs for every supported faction.

>>96128610
The High Elf one isn't bad. I like High Elves and Bretonnia. The rest were very meh. Not bad, but these two new ones are on another level.

Almost done with my Great Weapon Standard Bearer in my Minotaur unit.

Standard will be flowing behind him hung from the handle of the converted poleax

>>96128657
Forgot picture like a silly billy

>>96128664
That's fucking sick, what color scheme are you going with?

>>96128610
We never did get a rerelease of the High elf griffon, did we

>>96128683
Honestly not sure. My Gors and Shaman are black/brown skin with reddish fur will probably repeat that but open to ideas.

Really want the Minotaurs to stand out might make them more fleshy

>>96127897
Love scrapping off moldlines like a dimwitted autist, me.

>>96127820 (OP)
>TQ
If the new rules for smaller games are good I might start a TOW army

>>96128623
I hope we see new unit kits alongside them and not just more characters. They gotta replace the skeleton horses at some point, right?

>>96127897
>>96128702
A part of me is thinking of starting Cathay as my next project just because the mould lines will be almost/a non issue.

>>96128727
Just don’t get the statue

>>96128714
>I hope we see new unit kits alongside them and not just more characters. They gotta replace the skeleton horses at some point, right?
lmao
they didn't do it in 8th, they didn't do it with ToW, what makes you think they're finally going to update their decades old skeletons?
they're going to get squatted again and all the GW simps will go "see, nobody was interested in them" while refusing to consider why

I doubt we've seen all the models coming out alongside the new AJ. It has an army of Infamy for Slayers, and all the Slayers kits are ancient metal.
A new plastic Slayers kit would sell super well, people love Slayers. Especially coming out alongside rules for a mostly Slayers army

>>96128753
>people love slayers
Anon, people don’t even love dwarfs.

>tomb kings occupy border princes
>standard of living actually goes up

>>96128736
I have heard it's a pain in the dick to assemble but I really really really love the sentinel. I will probably miss the balloon because it's just a bit much for me, but I love the statues.

>>96128753
I should probably get some slayers and whatever else 4th/5th edition dwarfs GW is selling currently. I like the 6th-current dwarfs. I love the oldhammer dwarfs.

>>96127820 (OP)
>TQ
Rebasing and magnetizing all of my fantasy armies for TOW. I hope my suffering is understandable.

>>96128346
Multi-racial slayers.

Dwarfs, Humans, Elves, Undead, Orcs, Goblins, Ogres.

All red headed and unbreakable

>>96128775

>>96128853
Lmao

Reposting just in case
>Siege Livestream Recap
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2514916135
>Steve - 6.3 toward the end of August (14:42)
>Steve - 6.3 TK and Lizardmen rework will not be the same scale as previous Kislev rework (they are doing: Tech-Tree rebalancing; buildings, Heroes recruitment and rank from buildings; TK are getting a new minor feature; Lizardmen are geting new Blessed units; bugs fix and tweaks (19:20)
>Steve - No Geomantic-web rework (21:02)
>Josh - around 20 new Unusual Location coming with 6.3 (25:45)
>Milcho - Gate bug is very hard to fix (52:40)
>Milcho - They are actively looking to allow spiders & Skaven units to climb Walls, and ghosts to pass through Walls in later siege Reworks (57:45)
>Milcho - They have thought about artillery on walls and wish to do it but are not working on it for now (01:00:22)
>Milcho - Reduced the cost of building Siege Equipments (01:02:57)
>>Milcho - Can toggle on/off the ass ladders for those wanting them (01:06:00)
>Milcho - New buildable ladders as Siege Equipment (01:07:49)
>Milcho - Working to make Gates harder to destroy but not just by giving them more health (01:10:27)
>Milcho - Walls towers are deadlier but have a shorter range (01:12:32)
>Milcho - Some characters had the Siege Attacker removed from them (01:18:58)
>Milcho - They may add a way to get some initial Siege Equipments (01:19:13)(01:34:05)
>Milcho - Next big part of Siege rework will be Garrison units, then they will focus on Barricade and Tower (01:36:02)
>Milcho - Want to work on Auto Resolve in general (01:37:50)

Wrong thread sorry :3

>>96128569
Ushabti on the cover, does this mean plastic ushabti incoMing?

so no dogs of war or vampire counts then
well fuck

>>96128951
It means everything on the cover will be moving to resin

God I hope this means Brettonians are getting plastic Damsels and Grail Knights. Maybe they'll decide to force the "female knight" issue by adding Unicorn Knights.

>>96128753
Making new plastic slayers makes sense given they've pretty much given up on Fyreslayers in Age of Sigmar. Have they ever gotten more than a pity character after their initial wave?

>>96128999
Warcry Warband

>>96128995
I don't think they want full female regiments either, if that's what you're getting at.

Correct me if i'm wrong but we can already have an army full of Slayers if Ungrim leads a Royal Clan and the Bretonnian Exiles are from the Border Princes right ?

>>96128951
Shadows of Brimstone Lost Tombs ships next year. There's three different enemy packs for that with equivalents for Ushabti with great weapons.

>>96129035
>full slayer
Yes. Hopefully we get slayer pirates or something additional.
>bretonnian exile as border princes
They kinda work, but not quite the same spirit.

>>96129035
Kinda yeah, but they suck even with the 1.5's infantry changes. Too expensive without any armor or threat projection. I'm assuming they will get some sort of ward save.

>>96129086
Ungrim is also a stinker compared to dwarf king. Really expensive, sure he has monster slayer but monsters can just avoid him.

>>96129096
Isn't every special character in TOW absurdly expensive?

>>96129104
Most of them are. Burlok is pretty good value though.

>>96129104
>>96129112

Burlock, the Green Knight, General Hans von Lowenhacke, Settra, and Miao Ying are all excellent.

None of the others are especially bad, apart from Araloth, who's fucking shit; though some of them (Ungrim Thorgrim, Orion) may be a little overpointed for what they do.

>>96129188
>Orion
>a little overpriced
He's like 100, 150pts at least overpriced.

>>96129188
Lowenhacke might have a better argument now that infantry is better but I still don't really like him. Also I think Kralmaw is solid. Level 4, gives beastmen access to dark magic, 4+ ward, and lets you counterdeploy an uninteractable power level 3 devolve anywhere on the battlefield.

>>96129242

Silly anon. Lowenhacke is there for the extra +1 first turn roll on a low drop artillery army.

>>96128042
Looks as expected? Scale mail, sharp pauldrons, big hats. tusks. GW were too conservative imo but they're not bad.

>>96129255
I tried out the full Nuln artillery train complete with most my core points spent on outriders once.
Felt pretty dirty afterwards so I won't be doing it again.
Didn't have Lowenhacke though.

>mogged by some literal who in Finland

>>96128042
Upon ruminating I have to say, I like them, yeah they aren't one for one when compared to either iteration of Chorfs if Fantasy but that's AoS for ya, they wouldn't look too out of place, albeit they are very angular
I think main problem with their looks for me is the odd choice of colors here, especially use of green for fire and real overuse of smoke in the larger units and artillery pieces

>>96129313
Gonna be real these guys don't really strike me as industrialists

>>96129313
Anon, we are talking about an age of sigmar range here. That is perhaps the shittiest point of comparison you could have picked.

>>96128042
>champion carries a hammer
hey, that's illegal

>>96129368
It's okay, it's only a mallet, completely different to a hammer.

>>96128569
>>96128624
Same boring straight-models-to-art pipeline as in previous AJ covers. Remarkably soulless. Oh wait! Westerland cover has a part of a Cathay boat in it, truly amazing...

>>96129381
the fact he's a manlet changes nothing, he needs a license for that hammer.

>>96128042
Are the watermelons embedded in their weapons in case they get hungry during battle?

>>96129414
Incredibly wise

>>96128513
They meant they've realised there's profit in the 48-page journal format and so they've got a contract with chang book pubrishing company for 20 more of them. Now just to figure out what to fill the pages with.

>>96129436
arn't most of the AJ printed in the UK, the Dwarf one was

Anons, I have a question that I will try to word in the best of faith. How has Cathay gotten away with being an ethnically homogenous army while the new chaos dwarfs have gotten a smattering of Africans?
I was actually pleasantly surprised when Cathay was shown to be all Chinese, but in light of the chorf release I don't know how they've managed it: These are two non-white races, each with extreme ingroup preferences and a disdain for outsiders, each representing a great opportunity to bring in non-western themes into their settings. But only one has models with dark skin and broad noses and afro hair (braids and beards).

I wonder if the reason for this is more about the game system or the target market. Is the Chinese market really so powerful as to negate the touch of diversity, and in any other new TOW faction Africans would have been fair game? Like when they released that star wars movie poster and only the Chinese version was missing the black guy? Or is AoS (and recently also 40k, so maybe their "mainline" games) literally the DEI containment game where they shove all this stuff to meet quotas and it's nothing to do with TOW at all?

>>96129587
being around chaos and volcanos all the time would probably make anyone look like a nigger

how long should it take to paint a 2000 point army?

More cathay when? I hope we see at least two more waves before they make another new faction.

>>96129587
Is that a fucking WHIP on that fem dwarf's belt? Looks like a certain sculptor didn't get the memo that slavery is bad...

>>96129587
It's because AoS is a diverse game. Black elves and dwarfs are fine there but not in Fantasy

>>96129587
GW's desire to put random geometric shapes and weird fuckin angles on their models is the greater offence desu, coz a headswap is easier than fixing that stuff

>>96129670
CAD has a lot to answer for

>>96129261
Its the simplication of their design language into a bunch of straight lines that spoils it for me - there are weird straight lines everywhere the mind wants curves - the armour looks like its made of pressed sheet metal for roofing rather than like an exaggeration of real armour

Went from esoteric evil mesopotamian dwarfs to art deco wank

>>96129680
As opposed to the doughy doughness of hand sculpts?

>>96129355
It's clear that these are inspired by the first Chaos Dwarfs which were literally just midget Warriors of Chaos rather than the aesthetic that is more known today.

>>96129700
yes, incredibly anon natural textiles, organisms and historical armours are usually rounded and not weirdly angular like they are made of fucking bismuth.

>>96129709
>like they are made of fucking bismuth
that would be a cool colour scheme for the chuardins though

>>96129587
If chaos dwarves still took strong influence from a non white culture, you probably wouldn't see them fiddling around with race in such a way. Cathay are very blatanly the Chinese faction, so they won't have such a thing. If Kislev comes to TOW expect to see black people in the studio paint schemes at least. If there is not a particularly clear racial allegory for humans / dwarves / elves, or if the allegory is for some type of European, there will be African features and or black paint schemes. If there is a racial allegory for non white people, GW won't add in other races.

>>96129700
>cherrypicking warlord sculpts
cope lol

>>96129717
eastern europeans aren't real europeans

>>96129670
Gotta maximize edge highlights.

>>96129727
t. eastern european

So yesterday I played two 500 point battles vs tomb kings. Managed a win and loss.

Just curious if the tomb prince had a combined wounds of 5 or 6? Cause I did 3 wounds but apparently the chariot combines wounds like a monster?

>>96129727
I think GW will count them as such. Actually, fuck it. We need as many human factions as possible from every minor area in TOW so we can determine who GW considers white enough to be black.

>>96129733
6, they do indeed combined wounds.

>>96129745
Oh ok, fair enough. Thank you for clarifying.

>>96129727
Poland is central europe btw. Only belarus, moscow and ukraine is eastern europe. Just FYI

>>96129739
>so we can determine who GW considers white enough to be black.
they already make tileans and estalians black, but they are obviously meds, not white, so gw's opinion is bullshit

>>96129752
They are very good for that reason, as well as being unable to be killed by killing blow or monster slayer, and for mages still giving 360 degree view.

>>96129756
i thought finland was the easternmost eu country

>>96129756
>Poland is central europe btw
It only is in 90% of alt history fanfictions.

>>96129047
>literally called brimstone
Absolute vantablack caca.

So olive oil regions aren't white, but what's the defining characteristic / dividing line to the east.

>>96129761
Yeah I was not prepared to get run over by the chariots so horrifically game 1. D3+ 1 impact hits each??? Mental. Though I am learning not to let my opponents set up the scenery too. Also showed me some interesting wheeling monouvers with hounds to essentially trap / bait enemy units into counter charges.

Lots to still learn.

>>96129781
Nothing, just report these /int-pol/tards

>>96129781
hatred for srus goes up the closer you get to the border

>>96129756
Log off Zbzsdrzygnew, there's still chikins left to rape.

I think the models could perhaps be improves substantially with these changes:
Spear - > axe
Round shield instead of tower shield
Change pauldrons to be smooth and flared not angular and bent
Change hat to a proper chorf hat

>>96129821
Genuinely nice photoshop. They look cool that way.

>>96129821
If you have to change the model that much then it's far better to grab completely different models from the get go.
Chuardins aren't chorfs, the salvageable models are the heroes on foot, the centaurs and bull robot.

>>96129821
And the beard needs to be at least twice the length and volume. They look like dwarf teens with these sorry whiskers. And the nose must be a proper schnoz.

>>96129821
>Spear - > axe
Considering all spears have that weird spherical gimmicky energy source, that could also be used as contact point to add an axe blade onto the spear for a halberd.

>>96129781
It depends on how much of your ancestry is composed of hunnic and turkic blood (and the blood of other asiatic groups)

>>96129733
Yeah tomb princess are fucking thick Vaseline man, always shocking when a hero equilavent guy has 3w base.

>>96129974
>Tomb Princess
actually surprised they didn't make the herald kit with a female version, the journal talks about the female royalty fighting like the men and Khalida is popular.

so cathay will get their ranged troops from empire
what else could they include on top of walking wizards

>>96129724
Post a hand sculpted mini that looks good. I'll wait

Not sure if autistic or necessary but I didn't like the default way this shield/banner combo attached to the chaos knight's arm, by default the shield up sinks into the slot and the pole protrudes. So I fixed it. Will it gets seen? Probably not, but I'll know.

Can filthy imperials even keep up with cathayans?

>>96130029
A female version would have required an additional torso and made the head options not interchangeable, it's better for tomb queen to be a standalone resin model, but it would be hard for them to make one that's better than khalida or not redundant with her, so it's better if they just return her model.

>>96130087

>>96130087

>>96130093
The sword is way off

>>96130103
Those eyes lol. What is this, disney?

>>96130093
>>96130103
kino

>>96130109
fag

>>96130109
Absolute tastelet. /aosg/ will be more your style, shoo.

>>96128042
Oh hey cool Warcraft are doing a miniatures range.

>>96130087
is this /wfg/ equivalent of /wip/ craft paints
everyone loses their shit year after year even if they have seen the same circus dozens of times

>>96130123
Go back to /grog/, shout into the void of your dead general, nostalgycuck.

>>96130143
This is the Warhammer Fantasy General, /wfg/. You're the one who doesn't like Warhammer Fantasy models, ergo, you need to leave. This game isn't for you.

>>96128753
>asking GW for plastic replacements
You're insane.

>>96130167
Old handfag shit isn't WHFB models, or any models at all. It's all just turds that you for some reason won't give up on, probably because you're retarded and formed an autistic attachment to them.

>>96130202
The Foot Knights seem like the odd one out when it comes to TOW plastic kits, most of the rest have been pretty good and outside of the Foot Knights and Sentinel not a pain to assemble

>>96130202
They're not great but not terrible either

>>96130202
At this point I'm completely convinced they sculpted only the arms, weapons shields and heads and wanted to include them into the knights of the realm box as a way to update that old kit, but they were told "No" by the higher ups and aphazardly and passionlessly put together a bunch of bodies to sell that glorified upgrade sprue with.

must be hard do design a model that is easy to paint and nice like older models were but overly complicated, dynamic and cool at the same time

>>96129821
Looks infinitely better, but apparently they're not allowed to use axes because that would cannibalise the sales of fyreslayers™ kits sorry, I mean "because that's a symbol of grungni and grimnir". So gw basically gimped the potential of this range from the get go lol.

>>96130089
Very precise detail anon, great work

>>96130202
>"Let's face it, 20mm bases were just too small even by the end of 8th edition, so we are doing the sensible thing and moving everything to 25mm minimum"
>first new kit they release is noticeably larger than any other human models and significantly overhangs the new larger base size

>>96129680
it's not the method itself (cad has been in use at gw since 2006), it's just that it allows lesser skilled, lazy and clueless fucks to sculpt, it also allows middle managers to force to 'speed up, you can copypaste that armor or use a texture library' wich unvariably hurts quality
when you hand sculpt you can't get away with the things you can when it's digital

>>96129587
Different games, different settings.

In AoS the Age of Chaos caused massive upheaval and displacement as people tried to flee the Chaos hordes. The Realmgates also make travel between wildly different locales much easier. So for most factions, a degree of diversity is the fluffy choice.

>>96128042
ugly as nigger. terrible proportions, blocky hard angles, bulkly blocky armour, tony beards, tiny hats, boring, soulless, ai generated korean mmo diarrhea garbage slop.

a human with a soul recoils at this fucking cad trash

>>96130089
Seamless anon great work. Was gonna do something similar with a Blark Ark fleetmaster into BSB. What'd you use? miliput?

>>96130089
>Probably not, but I'll know.
this is hobbying

>>96130202
these look absolutely nothing like a knight has ever looked.

they look like some marvel shit or sigmarines with different helmets. their proportions are chunky dogshit.

their weapons are retarded and fake.

a tragic cad disaster sculpted by a subhuman who has never ever opened a book about historical knights or even bretonnia.

any real soul having human being knows this is utterly fucking disgusting and the sculptor is less than human for their soulless creation

>>96130202
Best bretonia models, by far

man you guys are weirdly obsessed with race

>>96129587
Imagine a Western corporation ever even thinking about offending their Chinese overlords

>>96130403
USA Website. USA culture

>>96127820 (OP)
>TQ I'm still lingering about some dwarf quarrelers.

It's weird, may was one of most productive months ever, with me completing an average of 3-4 models a day; but June and July have been shit, where I only managed 8 models last week and nothing else.

>>96130208
nta, can you post your favorite model? or the one you consider the best?

>>96130202
those guys look really nice, shame they're useless in the game

>man of the empire. listen, wise man of cathay once said "跳上尤。生拍點辛母你京象犬歌植要裝"
>which transrate into "man who go to bed with itchy bum wake up with stinky finger "

>>96130403
Identitarian politics are in vogue this season

>>96130424
"this season" means since occupy wall street, a span of time that's almost longer than the average age of this website

>>96129587
Cathay isn't ethnically homogeneous, there was even an article where they showed of a variety of skin tones to represent a wide range of eastern-southeastern ethnicities

>>96130420
They wont

>>96130421
how in the raped nigger chink do they look good? explain what you like about them, subhuman low iq wretched vermin spit.

what of their ahistoric chunky awkward plastic mmo design do you cherish you ugly short stupid dysgenic fat stinking pile of shit?

Uh oh Perryfag crashout again

>>96130089
And the unit is now done

Just need to check for errant mouldlines/flaws before priming.

Didn't alter these guys heaps re mark of khorne, just added new helmets and changed the unit Champ's lance to have a blood letter sword for the blade of the glaive/lance

>>96130380
Tamiya quicktype, my fav coz I love the fast drying time, good detail hold and ability to sand it if I need to

>>96130521
They might be alright for converting into 40k crusaders but alas they killed those rules becoz old models

>>96130535
8/8 would be absolutely terrified to see across the table m8

>>96130423
>He who raugh rast, no get joke.

>>96130423
>Man who run in front of steam tank get tired
>But man who run behind steam tank, he get exhausted

>>96130202
How did they manage to fuck up something so simple.
Chorfs at least have the excuse of there being like 3 different variations of them, none of which sold particularily well so they had to innovate a bit. Foot knights should've been an incredibly straightforward simple W.

oh boy am I sure excited for the new chorf models

>>96130521
I gotta be honest with you dude. If you talk like that you can't get upset when people don't want to to respond to you

>>96130521
Top looks so much worse than bottom, holy shit.

>>96130636
The best models I've found are from Tortuga Bay, just good honest recreations that faithfully capture the style and concept with crisp detail

>>96130636
Holy SOVL

>>96130660
Nice thanks anon, I didn't even know tortuga did anything other than hueg marines, I'll check them out

>>96130636
Fuck.... this AI slop actually fooled me for like 45 seconds. I wonder what it'll be like 5/10 years from now.

>>96130669
At the moment the bulk of their range is similar to the legion of azgorh style, but they're also doing bighats soon, with previews of the same on their insta

>>96130670
It's not AI slop brother, although it is a render that the creator arranged and colourised. I have all these STLs though and can confirm they're legit

>>96130670
There's something I find hilarious about people misidentifying things as AI. It's even better when they go off on one about it. There's just a beautiful irony in it.

Your AI sensors are probably just getting triggered by the weird flat pseudo-red period painting though.

>>96130535
can't you give the khornate rabbit ears to the blowhorn too? it would be cute

>>96130660
I still think lost kingdom miniatures are the best, as I'm less fond of the stricter adherences to the classic look and they've covered pretty much everything and then some.

>>96130755
my issue with lost kingdom was that their weapons and some of the spiky details like horns and shit tend to be too thin, so when printed they kinda just snap eventually. less of an issue with newer abs like flexible resins, but still not great. like, when i did some they were historical levels of thin undersized weapons.

>>96130636
Chorfs never looked good, huh?

>>96130769
The hellcannon is a model that all warhammer fans either love or respect.

>>96130769
Those are new models made by a fan

>>96130776
It's not a Hellcannon

>>96130806
Don't imply I was implying things I wasn't implying.

>>96130755
These guys ?
They're not the worst but they have that instantly noticeable third party quality to them yknow what I mean. Some parts are very detailed, some parts are a 10 second cad job. Do like the helmets on the guys, gw really shoul've gone for classic fully cilindrical helmets. Oh well.

>>96130985
The normal chorf warriors (not the elites you posted) and blunderbusses are good but their hobgoblins suck ass

>>96130453
>still silent
what a surprise

What is the best third party chorf range? Tortuga has nice troops but not much else.

>>96131117
Fabezel

>>96131117
Depends what kind of aesthetics you're after. I think for a fairly modern rendition that covers most of the range you have white angel minis?

All these 3d prints look like slop. Genuinely curious if there are any that aren’t overdesigned.

>>96131032
I didn't find blunderbusses from a quick glance, only fireglaives which looked like shit. You're right about the basic warriors though, they look pretty good.

Imo the best third party shit is by punga, they're the only ones I've found actually capable of replicating the gw artstyle. Unfortunately they've also managed to perfectly replicate the gw prices, if not worse in some cases.

>>96131139
That's the main problem I find with 3d creators. I think it's because they can zoom in to the tiniest millimetre of their model, see it empty, and think it needs filling with detail. They lose sight of what the model looks like irl.

The best low-detail chorfs I've seen are from forest dragon, who actually does 10mm sculpts (hence the low detail) but their chorfs scale up pretty well to a slightly chunky 28mm. I can't find any pictures of them printed at 28mm but I've seen it done before and it looks decent.

>>96131239
A lot of 3D creators seem to forget that people actually need to paint their models so they refuse to hold back unlike companies who actually make miniatures

>>96131139
I really like Ilhadiel sculpts

>>96131313
Some of the stuff on Etsy are just atrocities of more=better

tzaangors, slaangors, etc… are never getting rules are they

>>96131406
I still chuckle that they can't call them Nurgors because it can definitely be overheard as something else

>>96131406
They should be marked bestigors, maybe with special wargear options unlocked by the particular mark (bows for MoT, etc)

>>96129717
>>96129739
Non-chinese asians are honorary whites and thus subject to "diversification"

>>96131440
What does the bike lock on the front do?
Is it so he can keep it from being stolen if he's hanging out with Sallies?

>>96131496
It's a bumper.

>>96131508
>Asian driver on flying space bike needs a bumper
lol

>>96131313
>people actually need to paint their models so they refuse to hold back unlike companies who actually make miniatures
isnt the whole cad versus hand sculpted argument about that in the first place
sure some people like the detail and are more painting oriented but it matters little on tabletop when you are looking at them from half a meter away

Gimme the simplest units ever that I can get done with in less than a week. Range doesn't matter I just need something to break up the tedium of picrel.

>>96131431
really disagree, maybe it’s just bc bestigors are pretty mid in TOW but they’re more interesting to me as unique units
>>96131418
pestigors sounds cooler tbqh as a play on words with bestigor

>>96131546
Chaos Warriors are pretty easy.
Ogres too.

>>96131546
Skeletons or night goblins. You can get the WGA skeletons, spray them Wraithbone (or whatever it's called), use Agrax Earthshade on the bone then all you're left with is the weapons.

>>96131565
You're really gonna recommend painting more gold trim?

>>96131575
whats wrong with painting trim
ive seen anons painting backwards starting with metal basecoat and painting around the trim just to get away with it even if thats like 3 times the work

>>96131546
Troll horde?

Wait this isn't /40kg/ what the fuck.
Gonna do Chaos warriors though lol thanks anons

>>96131575
Chaos Warriors don't have a lot of trim.

>>96131609
They are awful to paint though. They’re awful models all around, really.

>>96131615
I think they're pretty easy to paint.
Would be open to a better kit.

I’m disappointed there aren’t more Estalian Blood Dragons, the Spanish aesthetic would look incredible for a Vampire - especially one that’s would love to turn a Diestro.

>>96128042
Honestly, barring the female chorfs and stale hats etc, just removing the annoying WoW orbs and gems would improve these sculpts a lot

>>96131724
estalia has even less lore than tilea, I think you're quite free to imagine blood dragons in tilea

>>96131724
You are villano borracho and you will like it.

>>96131724
Lasombra fucking shit detected.

I like the helsmiths of hashut and I'm going to use them for a chaos dwarf army.

>>96131919
Great, I hope as many people like them as possible, they're just not what I was hoping for tbqh

>>96131919
>I like garbage
Free country anon, you do you.

>>96131923
I don't mean this in a bad way, but what else could they have been? What were you expecting?

>>96131933
Funny chorf hats.
Instead they're just plain and way too blocky.

I can't decide between round or square bases for my TOW-compatible Skaven.

I have my old Skaven from 6th-8th. They're still on squares, I never rebased because AoS was a bad game. But round bases are FAR aesthetically superior to square ones. And I am also adding a bunch of the new Skaven. I would also want whatever I build and complete to work for Mordheim (where the aesthetics of round bases REALLY pay off, but where squares are also the default).

I know this shithole is a reactionary haven, and a lot of autobrains will just go "square" and then fart on with their lives, but I am looking for pros and cons of both.

>>96127820 (OP)
>What are you currently working on?
Finish another project. Then I'm going to finish up my trolls.
I came back after a year to find my trolls have gotten even dumber.

>>96131933
I mean I guess they fit in really well in AoS, but I was hoping to use them in TOW. Basically not much change since the old FW sculpts

>>96131947
Reject Rounds.
Reject squares.
Embrace Hexes.

>>96131947
>But round bases are FAR aesthetically superior to square ones
Go to AoS. Stay there.

>>96131949
i like your blu-tac bases
very retro feel overall

>>96131724
Vampire Conquistadors are a cool look.

>>96131976
>i like your blu-tac bases
They're magnetic actually
>very retro feel overall
That was definitely the goal with the green bases. I gotta finish a few and go back and do finishing touches like flock.

>>96131947
its very easy to slot round bases into a square tray without effecting the size or spacing. it is MUCH more difficult to convert square bases to properly sized and spaced rounds.

go for rounds. the round converter trays also allow you to add some basing material to the tray making it look nice, and allow you to rotate the figs so they rank up nice and easy regardless of pose

>>96131964
I've played more WHFB and for longer than you.

It makes sense you prefer squares, though, since a square is just multiple L's. Feels like home.

>>96131949
I like these guys. Would unleash my night gobbos on them.

>>96132023
>says the smegmar player

>>96132034
Can you read, Dolt?

I tried Sigtard the month it came out, when beards and yelling still gave your army bonuses, and it was ass trash. I haven't played it since. Round bases are not "an Age of Sigmar thing" you fucking broken monkey.

>>96132032
Night gobos is probably my next WHFB army.
I half finished a Mangler Squig/Squig-asaurus Rex before getting distracted.

>>96132020
Thank you for genuine advice.

Do you use the Miniwargaming trays? Are they one of the better manufacturers? It's FDM printed, right?

>>96132044
nta but you may consider giving aos another shot. it was only like that for a few months, now it plays just like any other game of round based warhammer more or less. its decent, nowhere near as bad as people on here make it out to be. it does lack customization and a fair bit of wargear and psychology granularity, but its also much faster to play as a tradeoff

>>96132034
Don't bother replying to the larp brother
>road wardens vs pistoleers
Is there literally any reason to choose pistoleers over road wardens? Better BS, no impetuous, fire and flee vs counter charge...

>>96132053
i dont use them but people at my shop do, they're good and cheap. they've got a whole floor of their building dedicated as a printing factory. i have my own printer so i havent needed to buy theirs, there are free movement tray files on thingiverse and cults3d if you can print, or you can just make your own super fast in blender with a rectangular cube and a cylinder with an array and boolean modifier in like 5 seconds, made to whatever size and model count you want.

im not sure what printer they use but i would assume its fdm, faster cheaper, more durable than SLA if you dont need SLA's detail

>>96132051
Nice! Funny, because I was thinking of doing a troll army after I'm happy with my goblins. Guess they're sort of in a similar area in terms of tone and aesthetics.

>>96132062
It might play like current 40K, but neither of them plays like classic WHFB or 40K. I oppose the streamlined slop era of both games.

>>96132075
A definite overlap as far as goofy random violence.
You should post your night goblins when you get a chance

Why do 3rd party slayer units include women? I don’t want to pay GW prices for their slayers and I don’t want lady dwarfs in my army.

>>96132062
> consider giving aos another shot. it was only like that for a few months, now it plays just like any other game
they should really consider making this a selling point because i too was under the impression that you still have to constantly shout and act out
t. eri

>>96132134
>why do people sell half or fully naked shortstack figures
No se compa, es un absoluto misterio.

>>96132120
Yeah, I'll probably post some when I get around to snapping better pictures.

>>96131947
this is all you need to know

>>96132181
What is this incelshit? Squares look better sure, but it doesn't need anything beyond that.

>>96132062
AoS was a fun game last edition with a lot of flavour. This current edition 40kified it by removing most of the flavour and simplifying it. The game is declining as a result in terms of events being held and tournament participation.

>>96132226
Get a life Perryfag

>>96131947
you can always make something bigger via movement trays etc trays but its impossible to make something smaller
if you consider how many editions of warhammer and homebrews there are around is it really worth it to rebase perfectly good army just because of old world

>>96131947
Keep them on oldhammer squares if there’s a community near you that plays it. You can always buy/print adapter trays for old world so you can use them in both.

>>96132240
A lot of people would say to that because despite there being many edition it’s very hard to find anyone playing anything but the latest thing unless you live in a metropolis.

>>96132134
check durgin paint forge. not the cheapest files, but very good quality and plenty of character.

>>96132234
>tfw used to be able to make fun conversions of an elf femdom dominated human society
>GW slaps down allies, makes CoS the ugliest looking pieces of shit, and forces more men into DoK
It's like a me repellent.

>>96132240
99% of these exist only online tho, before old world fantasy was scattered unto various factions of what was the "right" ed making each community extremely small. Unless you lived in a major city, and even then not always, chances were your "meta" was you and maybe 1 or 2 people you knew at best and usually nobody.

>>96132134
>>96132261
p.s. note that he does 2 styles of dwarf - some more whimsical fantasy RPG style stuff, and then rank and file stuff. don't be put off if you see the former first!

>>96132258
>>96132309
but aint it better to leave your options open
its not like you lose anything and you never know what might happen in the future

>>96132501
Eh. Like I said unless you live in a mega city you aren’t really keeping your options open because no one plays older editions of games.

>>96132501
for me, i keep my 20mm as is when they are based already, and have gotten some custom trays to move them. I highly doubt there will be another edition or game to use them with 20mm. ironically, for those now based on 25mm, if the very slim chancve something comes up based on 20mm i can use them for, i could just use custom trays again with a frontage for that game. Really, again unless they are already based on 20mms there is no reason to keep going that way.

>>96130403
There's always been the rogue schizo, but it wasn't until around 2016/2017 that pol blew the fuck up, and we have had shitty fucking lol tourists spilling out of containment ever since. Now-a-days it really depends on who's awake for how schizo this general gets.

In addition, with the popularity of total Warhammer creating new fans, and gw painstakingly making sure aos is as inclusive as possible, a specific breed of newfags have been showing up larping as old heads while screaming about all the black people in aos.

An easy way to shut people up is just to say "post minis"

>>96132240
Damn, I think your post sealed my fate. I forgot that old infantry bases were 20mm.

I only have ~40 spare 25mm squares, which would not be enough to equip the new Skaven I've bought.

Circles it is, boys.

>>96128042
KWAB

>>96132909
Didn't Warhammer Old World flop?

New lore about Hashut dropped.
He is not an actual Chaos God, the same as the four Chaos Gods. Long ago in WHFB, he was a dwarf who ascended to godhood. In AoS, he wants to complete his ascension and become a full Chaos God.

>>96128657
>>96128664
I don't think a traditional wavey-flag standard is necessary. If anything, just paint his loincloth as a captured Empire/Bret flag, that would be more organic and cool. Plus it gets the I HATE HUMIES message across and tells a story.

>>96132929
>retardation
Okay?

>>96128853
Mydoods on the bottom right

>>96132915
after armybuilder datafiles finally dropped it skyrocketed
god bless those few smelly nerds giving their all for 25 years so others could enjoy a nice game of tabletop

>>96132948
Explain your opinion.

>>96129035
>army full of Slayers if Ungrim leads a Royal Clan
No, you're hard-locked to 1 unit of slayers per 1k points which is fucking retarded. I want Slayer-only autism list.

>>96129587
AoStrannies will buy this slop gladly. Oh wait, no they won't.

hello bros can you recommend the army that is easiest and quickest to paint

im getting into this game to play with a group and im really bad and slow at painting and never get projects completed so i want a foolproof army

>>96132982
Didn't AoS land in the top 5 selling TT wargamers of 2024? I saw the picture

>>96132987
im calling high elves
prime white, add some odd colourful trim and bright metal and you are basically done

>>96132992
When you get outsold by battletech and Norzul's you know you're in a bad place.

>>96132987
Tombkings are both blessed with good boxset and peoxy options, and are exceptionally easy to paint for the most part. Literally prime beige>wash a bone color paint> paint details>base in sand. That's like 90% the army. The downside is the basic skele kit is ancient but there are plenty of good alternatives. Also they are very strong on the table with lots of fun options.

>>96132987
Tomb Kings on the whole are pretty easy.
Otherwise maybe Warriors of Chaos?

>>96132915
It's exceeded expectations according to GW which is all we have to go off atm

Am I wrong for thinking that the army building rules for Skaven are a bit too restrictive

Question: How do you not feel bad after getting shit stomped?

I like to think of myself as a casual: Don't mind losing so long as it's not having lost horribly.

I have lost before and it was fine but getting face rolled feels so disheartening and demoralising. How to better handle this?

>>96132992
No that list was compiled by a third party distributor who had an opt in chart for some FLGSs in the US. It had whatever the hell Bones is on the top 10 but no Bolt Action. Completely useless to use it for global sales.

>>96132987
Warriors of Chaos are a low-model army and easy to paint. Tomb Kings are easy to paint as well if you just put the Skeleton Horde contrast paint on them after priming white.

>>96133069
reflect on what you did and how you can do better Sometimes you just have to accept the rules are against you and hope it changes at some point. I lost about every game in the past year and now with the FAQ changes I've won 4 games in two weeks.

>>96130093
I can't get past the fucking helmet. I've always disliked it. A supernatural immortal demigod hero using an Italian pleb barbute is just a fucking weird design choice. I also don't like that he's wearing very advanced plate armor despite obviously being Gilles and thus being like 1000 years old, if anything he should be wearing a coat of plates or something.

>>96133069
As the local wood elf boot decoration, the easiest way is to accept you failed either at list building or table deployment or target picking etc, and either read up on tactics or rebuild your list. If it's cause you're facing a power gamer then that's different but you can also ask your freinds to maybe mix it up next time vs you as you learn.
It makes the next dub all the more earned.

>>96133069
What happened? It happens and it’s to be expected when you are just getting into it. Very few people are excellent at anything when getting into it. And the point of the game isn’t to win it’s to enjoy yourself. Maybe consider talking to your opponent about toning down his list for the next game? But if you post what happened we can try to help with list tweaking and tactics.

>>96133069
nobody likes a sore loser so you should always take it as it comes with a little humor and good attitude
also nobody likes a waacfag they can be ridiculed freely

>>96133099
>>96133106
Thanks friends. It's a tight place wallet wise and I never planned to exceed 500 points. So much for that! Ironically the 1000 point+ battles have felt more fun, win or lose but still.

Will try to reflect and git gud with what I have. Cheers.

>>96133126
Yeah generally the bigger the game the more fun within reason.

>>96133114
>what happened?

I got annihilated in a decisive turn, my general and unit was destroyed in an instant, essentially losing the game. I know what I did wrong but the guy is part of the countries TOW team and the fact I requested in advance to go a bit casual and it felt he didn't pull much punch felt pretty crappy.

>>96133118
I didn't bitch, whinge or moan I just felt gutted is all. Took it, externally, fine.

>>96133126
Are you the 500pt chaos batrep guy?

>>96133163
Maybe

>>96128995
I doubt we'll get anything for a while. We got the plastic KoTR on foot and royal pegasus characters, as well as 5 (6 if you count both BSBs) new resin character sculpts. We're likely near the bottom of the list.

>>96132915
it did well enough to greenlight an entirely new line, which considering how many games gw released without doing that is a decent sign

>dwarf slayer army confirmed
I love the models but how will they make slayers playable?

>>96133184
a plastic Sergeant-at-arms is more likely since those character options never got models

>>96133175
If so, You usually seem to have fun even tho you lose a lot, I'd say going to 1k may help as chaos tends to open up as points go up. Chin up, sometimes we get bootyblasted and if>>96133145 meant you faced a waacfag it's just an unpleasant part of the scene, you know to simply avoid going forward.

>>96133145
>I didn't bitch, whinge or moan I just felt gutted is all. Took it, externally, fine.
very nice
ive seen people losing their composure entirely and break out in tears after first turn, then pack up and leave
years ago some anon told a story from his lgs where dude got so worked up he started throwing his opponents models to the wall and got banned from the store

>>96133220
My appreciation for the encouragement anon. Yeah I had a stupid good time last standing vs the uber VC guy, was hysterical but this just felt bad. I'll keep trotting and being a sneaky git, I have essentially planned out how to beat my best friend's Cathay army from all this...once he eventually finishes making them.

>>96133225
I'd never do that. I felt ass pained and disheartened as hell yes but shook hands, said gg and did the rounds. That said, on a brighter note, seems like a good mixed scene: IT nerds, cool tattooed guy, two dads, the tourney crowd. Even my opponent was fine, though he knew i felt a bit gutted, but was pleasant throughout

>>96133069
I like to imagine ways I could kill my opponent.

>>96133069
You just play another match lol

Why is the map of Nuln just a lazy repeat of Altdorf? They couldn't figure out a way to have two cities at the confluence of two rivers that don't have the exact same shape?

>>96133006
Those two are second and third place respectively, what are you on about?
Honestly I am quite happy that Battletech made such a comeback

>>96132915
no

>>96132909
KWAB'd indeed. Reminds me of the sweltering summer of '92

>>96133296
if all isekai anime ever were made by tuomas pirinen even he would make few city maps that resemble each other

>>96133296
They're only superficially similar. If you look closer, the actual layout and infrastructure are very different. For example, Altdorf started out on the left bank, while Nuln's historical part is on the right.

>>96133319
To be fair, it's very hard to mess up dwarfs.
Nuchorfs show us it is possible though

>>96133145
>part of the countries tow team
Damn that sucks. He sounds like a fag for not going easy on you if you specifically brought it up. But at the same time, know it’s not a normal scenario. You did some sparring with your teams Olympic representative and got beat up. Not much you could have done unironically. Keep your chin up and remember that isn’t the norm.

Trying to envision what to put on my Orc BSB. My planned 2k is a merging of 2 orc tribes and I was pondering the best way to go about demonstrating their unity:
>2 tribal standards "stitched together" (isn't that more for captured enemy standards?)
>a single flag with a merging of the 2 main themes of each tribe
>single meme flag displaying orc unity (you son of a bitch predator meme except orc arms)
>forget that shit and go anti-humie/stuntie instead

>>96133352
>Nuln's old quarter is in the north
>all of its history has it start and expand out from the south
Again, lazy.

>>96133239
Keep posting here. I enjoy them, makes for a welcome change from all the misery shitposts here. And I think you learn each game or at least enjoy your hero usually tanking through.Godspeed anon.

>>96133432
>>2 tribal standards "stitched together" (isn't that more for captured enemy standards?)
That seems like a fun idea.

>>96133432
no need to stitch them together when you could simply have them stand together
you could also have a horizontally flowing banner rather than a vertically hanging banner with different designs on the two sides

Should I go with dark elves, vampire counts or cathay for my last army? I have bretonnia and welves

>>96133319
just to note that we did also get woman chaos lord who is becoming the protagonist of the upcoming arcane journal, so it's not all rosy.

>>96133562
You need some evil to balance it out and you already have elves so VC it is

>>96133562
might as well go Cathay if you don't like it you can soup with Empire when GW release the Jade Fleet AoI

>>96133574
Not a chaos lord, a norscan. Who have had female leaders before (valkya) and norscan female huscarls and jarls. Uncommon but not unheard of. Remember too the real life inspiration had women with far more rights than contemporary western European women (not equal , but more).

>>96133562
Get an evil army. Dark Elves would love to raid the Bretonnian coast

>>96133562
>brets
>wlves
to complete the sequence you need beastmen, broo

>>96133657
I havent read any of the nuLore because fuck modern GW writing, but Valkya was a female who was killed and then became a reincarnated daemon with deamon power and strength.

Any "woman warrior" would be raped and beaten by their 100lbs heavier male counterparts without super powers. Anything that states otherwise is marvel cape slop

>>96133657
>Remember too the real life inspiration had women with far more rights than contemporary western European women (not equal , but more).
LOL
LMAO
GUFFAW

Unless by "western European women" you mean a specific percentage living specifically in places like Paris and London that all happen to have a specific ancestry and kids named mohammed.

>>96133562
This anon >>96133723 has a point. The AJ looks like a lot of fun too.

>Making fun of Siggy Piggies
>Shitting on GW
>Shitting on dwarves
>Racism
>Shitting on Women
>Shitting on Zoomies
WE'RE BACK BOYS

>>96131239
>warmaster models
>scale them up to WHF size
>actual good looking models not cluttered up with stupid garbage
My god, it was so obvious.

>>96130220
>They're not great but not terrible either

>weird stupid bibs so they're distinct from historical models

>>96130610
See above. Bret knights *should* be super easy, but they have to make them uNiQuE.

>>96133006
>battletech and norzuls

why are you saying that like those are some small fry mum and pop shops? thats a 40 year established scifi franchise and all of dungeons and dragons miniatures, the top two IPs in their genre in the world.

i've never understood why people think aos coming in just behind these 2 is some kind of dunk. norzuls usually has a dedicated 20 foot wall of blisters in most FLGS's

>>96133781
Honestly I'd prefer if we had calmer threads, man.

>>96133733
>norscans can't have wimminz leaders despite the lore having references to such.
>Oh that one doesn't count only old lore
Like picrel? Past mcdeath? Oh are we gonna move the goal posts further to some specific book?
Now post models or shut up.

>>96133791
2 parts to this
>1 is some people are so pathetic they have to feel part of something so hinge their experience of a hobby to if it's "winning" since they don't have people to play with. Parasocial shit.
>that Pic though sucks ass, it has warmachine as a top game where even in the PNW mk4.has killed it. Even steamforge doesn't seem to be able to staunch the bleeding despite some really nice 3d options.

>>96133759
Schrodinger's white woman where she has full rights and is respected by society but also seeing her in any sort of military or leadership role is unrealistic

>>96133781
Yeah this definitely won’t make the board worse

>>96133834
Women being in the military has nothing to do with them having rights

>>96133835
Correct. Once the fifth column is removed we can return to being based 24/7.

>>96133781
I like how not once did you include posting models, batreps, lore, or your dudes
Unironically if this is all the hobby is to, you need to log off. Peak misery.

I hope the smaller points gamemode in the new journal is kino, I'd like a new way to introduce people to the game and get past the misconception the game needs 5000 miniatures a lot of people seem to have

>>96133781
Comeback when TOW can even make the list. Hell, not even Horus Heresy made this list and people have bitching about how people only buy Space Marines. No wonder GW wanted to make everyone's armies non-playable in HH 3.0 because nobody buys HH stuff.

>>96133944
Dont reply to him, chorfs going to AoS has broke him. He's gonna be like this for weeks

>thread succumbing to consolewarshit yet again
Sigh. I can't wait for the total war franchise to move on to 40k or another ip entirely.

>>96133944
>Comeback when TOW can even make the list. Hell, not even Horus Heresy made this list
isn't the general assumption that they get bundled together with their mainline "sequel settings"?

>>96133979
It will go back to normal on Monday at the latest

>>96133781
>>96133944
>>96133967
Can you please go back to /aosg/?

>>96133985
I suspect so, I really can't imagine AoS being bigger than HH.

>>96133985
GW wants to keep their the Main Design and Specialists Design studios separate. Horus Heresy takes place in 30k.

>>96133944
This list was debunked

>>96134005
Nta but I absolutely can. Even if everything resin were to magically turn plastic, the setting is so fucking closed that it appeals to no one. Hence why it’s only adopted by people that hate 40K and gw in general but are too masochistic to give up to another title.

>>96133944
The true redpill is that miniatures make fuck all for independent stockists and 90% of them would be closed down if it wasnt for card games

Literally arguing over nothing. Get help.

>>96133985
>>96134031
Post models

>>96134037
That's just not correct in my experience. HH gets much more engagement online.

>>96134031
I wasn't implying otherwise, but I don't think an independent resellers' own sales graph would care about how GW wants to account for its product lines.

>>96134037
>>96134042
>>96134048
I'll even accept a greytide, just proof of a (hobby)life is all I ask

>>96133791
I'm saying Norzul's look like shit and no one's even heard of Battletech that younger than 30.

>>96134042
I can’t tell if this is bait

>>96134079
You think HH videos getting higher views than AoS ones is just meaningless?
It's just more popular.

Lemme know when WHFB is being discussed in the WHFB thread again

>>96133944
>no bolt action
>bones
Useless list.

>>96134097
It'll be a while.

>>96134097
Where do you think you are? This board is allergic to non-bait/flamewar on-topic discussion.

>>96134137
Damn that looks like ass

>>96134077
>look like shit
not relevant to sales (just look at 40k)

>younger than 30.
no one younger than 30 is playing any of this. wargames, rpgs, skirmish games, none of it. the zoomers dont care about it, its a millenial and boomer hobby space all over, and most of them grew up with all the battle tech tie ins like the mech warrior video games which were quite successful for a time.

>>96134137
Imagine championing such ugly ass models lmao

>>96134085
Horus heresy is pretty unpopular when you look at the actual number of events hosted globally. It’s easily GW’s least popular big game going off actual confirmable player numbers.

Maybe I'll actually get these done before things simmer down.

>>96134137
What a waste
>>96134141
No it's just a few shitposters, likely you amongst them, hopping around. Generally this boards pretty chill other than the perryfag
>>96134161
I still see quite a few youngins, at least thanks to old world plenty of us grogs have kids to pass armies to or get started.
>>96134184
Who fucking cares post it to /hhg/

What’s with all the smegma posting today? Are they upset because of Chorfs being really ugly or what?

>>96134208
I don't know. Apparently AoS figures not being very appealing, something about as common as fish in the ocean, warrants constant attention and bitching instead of doing anything hobby related.

>>96133069
Figuring out what you're doing wrong helps, but you could ask your opponent to point out the retarded shit you're letting him take advantage of. My intro to wargaming was 6 months of getting tabled by my Bolt Action club leader during covid, and I really got better every single game. He always took the time to explain what I was doing wrong after our games. I've never gotten sweaty during list building, but I do try to play at my absolute best when I come to the table.

>>96133296
Because WHF has lazy world building

>>96134208
New models got shown, they predictably couldn't match the huge expectations

Arguments about tastes and opinions run rampant
The usual few loud shitposters looking to shitpost regardless of side have a field trip
Diehard AoSfans become defensively schizophrenic accusing everyone who's got a negative opinion of being a shitposter and/or an outsider
Except the same shitposters and diehard AoSfans aren't curtailed in /aosg/ alone

if you want to get some Woodland from GW, they are doing an MTO for them right now for £30.50, which seems rather steep for three plastic trees espehsally compared to the TOW sscenerey they have on offer all the time

>>96134245
He did, essentially use the warhounds to wheel unfavourable charge angles where they either gimp marching or force a charge. So will be practicing. You got a lot of patience to put up with tabling man, you got nerves.

>>96134286
@gork, how do I unsubscribe to this anon's advertisements

>>96134311
you kill him in his sleep

>>96133985
No. Because ToW actually showed up during its launch at like 8th place and then disappeared

>>96134005
>i can't imagine a game sold in every LGS be bigger than an online only game

Oof. Beastmen or Bretonnia battalion box?

Scale creeped unfortunately. Bull Centaurs seem perfect tho.

>>96134441
Bretonnia box is much better its got all stuff youll use as bretonnia and is a solid army right out the gate. beastmen box is kind of lacking albeit all the content is good it's just missing hero/wizard and stuff like minos, dragon ogres, chariots, and while cheaper will need more purchases to be a "good" army

>>96134456
They're not nearly as scale-creeped as much as I had feared.
They might actually fit on 25mm bases, with a bit of finagling.

>>96134441
that depends on which of the two you like more

>>96134288
I figured out from a very early age that I am a complete retard. It turns out, when you accept you're shit at games, it becomes easier to keep at it and keep going until you git gud. There's a few people at my clubs who adore warhammer lore and miniatures, but get extremely salty about losing and are not willing to put in the effort to get their asses beat and figure out what NOT to do. Maybe 2v2 games with one experienced player on each side really is the way to learn.

>>96134456
why would anyone use that dark dwarf model instead of third party proxy for actual chaos dwarfs?

>>96134517
Brand loyalty most likely. Material preference, too.

>>96134517
There is only one good looking third party chorf set and it's only 5 poses of weapon + shield and 3 poses of blunderbusses. The rest look like shit.
I want plastic because I like converting

>>96134456
they are about as 'dwarf' as votann, nugw hates stunties for some reason

Quite happy with how this turned out, the two kits went together seamlessly.

>>96134723
Nice

>>96134517
Because they don't know better.

>>96134723
Nice
I'm working on my glade rider, pushing past the ugly phase and now washing/highlighting
What's everyone else up to?

>>96134833
>What's everyone else up to?
Browsing for movement trays that are not shitty resin.

>>96134820
there are some good third parties but i dont like this brand

>>96134833
Finished this Chorfie not too long ago. Kinda proud with how he turned out although I've been thinking about repainting his beard to be a bit darker grey. Thoughts?

>>96134952
Looks good, anon. A wash would probably improve it further and darken the beard in the right places.

>>96134441
Bretonnia has a better box. But it depends on which one you enjoy more. Both armies are great. Bret’s have a bonus if it’s your first army in that it comes with templates and the full rulebook.

>>96134952
I don't think it needs to repaint just a wash.

>>96135120
The rulebook is out of date now though, isn't it?

>>96134892
Ah yeah for me it's finding a good tray with reasonable shipping
>>96134952
Looking nice, I agree with other anon a quick wash should do. Also, you the one posting the blue trim chorfs?
>>96135241
NTA but it's basically fine, we've had very small changes and you can download the errata. 95% of the rules are Intact, this isn't 40gay we don't get a new ruleset every 10seconds.

>>96134820
Why does everyone turn the beards into turds

>>96135394
>turds
You may wanna talk to a doctor.

>>96135241
Technically yes but the errata is only a couple pages long and is point by point referencing rulebook pages. Also there’s a lot of lore in there too. It’s a high quality book. That’s all irrelevant tho because all that matters is if you prefer Bretonnia or Beastmen.

is it TOW's turn for new shit tomorrow?
40k got space wolves
HH got Saturnine
AoS has gotten like 3 army refreshes
All since Cathay

>>96135498
Post painted models

>>96132987
actual answer: beastmen
their minis are easy to put together and canonically they are filthy and look like shit so if you can’t paint well it’s ok

>>96132987
look up slapchock on youtube and buy some speedpaints from army painter

>>96135512

>>96135498
Cathay came out last month?

>>96135628
Thin your paints dude.

>>96132987
I think both Tomb Kings and Beastmen are rather easy to paint to a decent standard.

>>96135498
Tomb Kings are getting two new boxes.

Painted up a Bretonnian peasant test model. I need to figure out how to freehand a straight line on the shield 50/50 as I have very shaky hands.

>>96133944
Imagine being emotionally invested in the financial success of one J. Workshop.
Could not be me.

>>96135716
is it slap chopped? Looks grainy

>>96134958
>>96135231
Yeah I think I'll just give it a nice nuln oiling and see how it turns out
>>96135393
No, I'm new (pls no hate) who just decided to stop in and show off what I got since I had a taste for WHF recently

>>96134441
Whichever faction you like more.

Bretonnia doesnt have a battalion box. You'll pay for outdated rules and shitty measuring sticks also.

>>96135716
Use masking tape you silly billy.

>>96135971
The bret box is a better battalion (it's got a lord and plenty of models) on ita own worth the price (well, GW prices) but the rules are not outdated except maybe 10 or so areas (wizard cast, press of battle, mounted lords) , plus lore, and widgets are nice bonus.

>>96134286
Why do the leaves look so fucking flat? They look like low poly RuneScape trees kek

>>96135940
No I fucked up and didn’t real know how to spray the primer correctly while doing that guy

>>96130740
I could put a little khorne symbol b/w them perhaps

>>96136047
Those are pretty horrible looking, that picture is probably taken from the most flattering angle. That would be $50 thank you.

I have no idea why somebody would buy GWs terrain

why do people hate the end times?

>Tz'arkan ate Malus's soul and he's dead forever now
nvm I see why

>>96136340
Because they are soys that don't like when their favourite cartoon character gets killed.
End times is the only interesting WHF lore.
Let's hope the TOW does a better job with its narrative supplements.

>>96136398
Do you have anything better to do than continue to lurk here posting obvious bait?

>>96136412
Yeah, posting about TOW. WHFB was mid and rightfully killed though.

>>96136482
Too obvious, low effort so low (you)s

>>96136362
>Malus's soul
Wut

>>96136340
lots and lots of problems

>>96136489
Yes, it was obvious for GW that WHFB was mid and needed to be killed.
Thankfully we now have a much better version with TOW 10 years later.

>>96136362
Least objectionable part of the End Times, frankly.
>Farewell, friend. I was a thousand times more evil than thou!

What's a good starting point to get into Da Lore? Especially for Beastmen. I've got some gors, 'taurs and a harmin' shaman and want to get inspired to write up some fluff

>>96136802

Runequest broo

>>96136802
can't beat the fluff section of rulebooks and armybooks, the two army books beastmen got are not bad, fluffwise
https://gofile.io/d/s3SZ0t

>>96134723
What's that on the base?
Spruce goo?

>>96134723
a bit front heavy, but still looks good, arguably better than the normal build

still not better than the 6th ed one though

>>96136802
It's not a good starting point, but if you want inspiration read Realm of Chaos: The Lost and the Damned. Everything subsequent is a pale imitation.

>>96134530
>Material preference
>>96134530
>I want plastic
absurd to say, but mantic has better plastic chaos dwarfs

Well, got my End Times read order ready. Time to finally wade into this and see what happens.

Sigmar's Blood (Novel)
The Bone Cage (Short Story)
The Rise of Nagash (Novel)
Ice and Sword (Short Story)
Marienburg's Stand (Short Story)
The Fall of Altdorf (Novel)
Deathblade (Novel)
The Siege of Naggarond (Short Story)
Bride of Khaine (Short Story)
The Curse of Khaine (Novel)
Rise of the the Horned Rat (Novel)
Lord of the End Times (Novel)

>>96136954
You're missing the white dwarf article with the kidnapping of aliathra and the campaign books (sigmars blood, ET:nagash, ET:glottkin, ET:khaine, ET:thanquol, ET:archaon), book 1 and 2 of the doom of gotrek, and the accompanying must read, Masochism - a jungian view by Lyn Cowan

>>96134952
Fellow Fabazel enjoyer
I’ve been working on the train

>>96137026
>traumas the demon engine

>>96136886
Magic sculpt putty. I had to raise that side a bit to level the barrel.

>>96136892
>still not better than the 6th ed one though
Agreed, that one was great, especially that partially exposed warpstone, but it doesn't fit into the current range anymore. The updated one was kinda shit from the get-go, with it being a shared build for the plague catapult, so I never comitted. Now with the skaventide gun, I could finally make something nice to represent it.

>>96136992
>white dwarf articale
Will add that.

>campaign books
Already going to read them before the novels.

>Gotrek
Don't like 'em so not reading those.

>>96136992
>white dwarf article with the kidnapping of aliathra
I think the story is in an army book, the Dwarfs of Vampire Counts one no ?

>>96136951
>absurd to say, but mantic has better plastic chaos dwarfs
what a time to be alive

>>96137157
It all started with the battle report that first showcased the terrogheist, white dwarf 379 or 380 or around that number
That one has got the actual kidnapping, everything else just mentions it

Altdorf's long rifles look cool.

>>96136802
If you need inspiration for coming up with /Yourbeastmen/ you can take a look through the lore i've written for my dudes and see if it can't isnpire you for your own denizens of the forest.

>https://files.catbox.moe/7wr72g.pdf

>>96136340
>Killed off the setting
>Poorly written.
>Retcons fluff from older editions (some of which has subsequently been unretconned in AoS, they were that unpopular/stupid).
>Forgot about a whole bunch of characters and stuff that had to be mentioned by the writers after the books had finished.
>A biblical amount of Chaoswank.
>An apocalyptical amount of Skavenwank.

I remember an anon a few threads back saying how he thought the Gnoblar Scraplauncher was a neat kit but didn't see anyone use them so thought I would share the one I slapped together recenty

>>96134577
you talking about fabelzel? because if so, there are a ton of community remixes that have expanded it to a bunch of poses and multiple command groups

>>96137592
Those do look pretty huge. Long, I mean. The rifles too.

>>96134820
There's plenty of good chorf proxies but these look like shit
>>96137682
The scraplauncher is nice and all but it competes with the ironblaster which is one of the coolest kits ever put out by gw.

>tfw no Tree-only WE army of infamy

How should I equip chaos warriors with mark of khorne? I was thinking maybe extra hand weapon or halberds? striking last doesn't feel very khornate so great weapons seem unthematic

>>96138089
which ruleset are you playing?

>>96138161
Old World

Why the hell do orcs speak reikspiel?

>>96138233
so the 'umies understand the insults they throw at them, they speak their own tongues otherwise

>>96135241
It is but also you still need it as the errata only changed specific paragraphs so you still need the rulebook even for the rules that were changed.

>>96138089
>>96138215
I'd probably go for hand weapon + shield to keep their cost in check and still gain the benefit of ensorcelled weapons and a 3+ armour save.

>>96133944
You know like half of TOW products are only sold directly by GW and therefore wouldn't show up on a 3rd party seller survey right?

>>96138011
Calm down Drycha. Or don't.

>>96138233
Most don't, only the commanders and some Shamans do so they can negotiate with the umies. And even then, some use Magic since they can't be bothered learning another language.

>>96135498
Today is marinepiggy time (black templars I think), after that the reliable release date rumours run out.

>>96138011
Yeah. Pretty fucking annoying that you have to take elves in every list.

>>96128042
Spears, swords - where, fuck, the axes?

finished a bony lord

>>96138602
I might be retarded, but I can never make chainmail look that good. So shiny, so nice.

last

>>96138602
cloak looks awesome, well done

>>96138602
he looks happy

>>96135498
I think they'll keep showing more necromunda or blood bowl.

We get to see kislev at the end of summer, otherwise it's going to be some slow months I imagine.

>>96138602
Sweet, just finished the train

>>96138852
Is there a point in keeping the base small if it's impossible for the miniature to be put in base contact?

>>96138643
Really need to get to it soon and grab some Infernal guard and their variants. They've been in my head for years as the de-facto "modern" look of what Chaos Dwarfs should look like. They're fucking beautiful.

>>96138885
You can ask the rulebook on that one it’s pretty retarded. I only play friendly so we just shift it back a bit

>>96138885
Imagine thinking GW cares about testing base sizes for a faction like Chaos Dwarves

>>96138991
>>96139070
No, I mean why not give it a larger base regardless of what the rulebook says, at that point.

>>96136868
>https://gofile.io/d/s3SZ0t

I added to this link the wh+ video about cathay, compressed for ease, even though it says fucking nothing, but anon wanted it some threads ago

>>96139118
Fair point, just didn’t

>>96139138
I was that anon who requested, so thanks for the link.
Yeah nothing new, makes me wonder why they even made this when it's just recapping what's in the War Comm and WD articles.
Maybe the small bit about not using Chinese language is new, but that's not worth watching the video for.

>>96135498
nope it's Black Templar and Grey Knights

>>96137026
Love Fabelzel's stuff, the classic looking Chorfs will always hold a place in my heart. Nice work on the train btw
>>96138643
>>96138935
They really are some good-looking models. I always liked the "evil-industrial" style of the Tamurkhan Chorfs, just wish the hats were a little bigger.

>>96139607
>>96139607
>>96139607
New

>>96138640
base metallic, black ink, metallic again on the surface, and then highlight carefully with a very bright silver, i use vallejo metal colors, steel, exhaust manifold and pale burnt metal for highlights