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>Previous Thread:
>>96126500

>Thread Question:
Which faction would make the best action movie?

>>96129579 (OP)
>TQ
Assassins, obviously.

>>96129579 (OP)
I am glad gee dubya remembered Iron hands but jesus our combat patrol is fucking awful

>>96129579 (OP)
>You think the codex your ally?

>>96129593
Samurai styled armor for ironhands might go hard, especially since techmarines already do the overlapping plates

>>96129579 (OP)
It’s obviously a war movie style nids v imp guard

>>96129601
>Scottish clans
>Japanese style
It be an interesting mix but I could see someone trying to make it work then plain primaris slop

>>96129566
For me it's good old fashioned Ambull.

Still no Exodite release. It hurts, anons.

>>96129619
I'd love some exodites but fuck man I think the Drew Carey needs some love first

>>96129611
I think plain primaris tell a story a lot better than the old tacticals did, even in white dwarf they would talk about how even your average tactical is a hero, this storied space marine whos done such and such.

But primaris are new both inuniverse and in real life, they don't have a gorillion veterans, or dozens of old suits of old marks to canibalize.

Primaris look like an army new players should build, and itll age with them

> Tech marine in the new combat patrol for IH is wrong colours

TECHMARINES ARE RED WITH THEIR CHAPTER ON THE SHOULDER, ONLY IRON FATHERS ARE BLACK.

>>96129612
You know I do find it funny corpse starch became the meme food when I believe just normal corn starch is farm more common in the imperium and logically would be far easier to produce.

>>96129633
Don't be a toxic fan.

>>96129633
Pretty sure even index astartes had alternative color schemes for them, I know they did for librarians

>>96129633
So it's an iron father then, the techmarines are on the gun platforms

>>96129633
But that's an Iron Father, don'tcha know?

Is there a chapter where the ranking officers are primarily apothecaries in the same way the iron hands are so techmarine centric

>>96129652
Probably not but there's no reason it couldn't be the case, just as you mentioned with the Iron Hands or the Blood Ravens traditionally having Librarians as chapter masters.

>>96129652
Raven Guard potentially since their geneseed is so fucked?

>>96129652
Closest I can think of right now are red scorpions, you could take apothecaries instead of sgts

>still resin whole ever other marine character is plastic

they realised they cannot improve upon perfection they're totally gonna kill him off

>>96129639
>>96129640
>>96129641
>>96129645
is this combat patrol worth getting if i just want the heavy intercessors and techmarine? I hear the turrets are extremely mid because of their movement.

>>96129672
rumour is that his new model is already done but they arent releasing it until 11th edition.

>>96129673
>is this box worth getting
If you wanted before hand to get every single model in a box, yes, because it's a discount.
Otherwise no it's a scam

>>96129673
save the turrets for a conversion or something I guess

>>96129593
why does his sword have a faucet

>>96129679
neither one of those marines are using a sword

V cool dude

>>96129674
I doubt it'd be any better than his current model, they'll fuck it up somehow

and I cant wait for everyone to suddenly be a crimson fists fan if he has good rules

>>96129703
>I doubt it'd be any better than his current model, they'll fuck it up somehow
anon, you're posing on /tg/ any and every new model is infinitely worse than the old one. Old is always better, disagree and the jannies ban you

Everything I paint lately just looks like fucking shit. It's so frustrating, I'm in such a rut.

My headtakers are done for the collage, I'm happy with the result, they are really enjoyable models to paint

>>96129633
Iron Chad here; what utter gaylord paints their Iron Hands red?
>Apothecaries? Black
>Librarians? Black
>Techmarines? Black'd
Lore is even though the mechanicus and IH are close, they(IH) are still independent from Mars as per recent lore

>>96129593
Fixed

>>96129721
lore is that only the iron father is completely black, techmarines are still red, stop the cope.

Its acceptable if you arent running Feiros as your iron father.

>>96129716
is it shit or do you just think it looks like shit, good is better than perfect anon

>>96129723
I kneel
>>96129731
>"C-COPE"
>All techmarines are red
t. Iron Father Kristos
Piss off you poof, tell that to all the official artwork

>>96129672
it's because he's for a second founding chapter

when they bring back dorn and unify all the imperial fists' descendants into one codex supplement, then he can receive a model

>>96129731
>lore is
fluff is you can paint them however you want and uniforms are guidelines, not rules

go cry in your irrelevant faggot corner together with the nonwhite scars

Imperial agents expansion is coming...
I can feel it...
>TQ
If it's gonna be a marine movie, pick the crimson fists. Personally a guard movie with maybe a commissar or commander as the protag sounds more interesting but what do I know, if I was to make a 40k movii/show id make it about the inquisition as a thriller showing insights into inquisitorial investigations and say to day life in the imperium.

Why did GW have to put the heavy weapons for the Deathwatch Kill Team refresh in Gravis? There was no reason for those to not be in regular marines.

>>96129758
Because retards don't understand what power armor is or what something weighs

So big gun needs big dude to carry

>>96129758
Because everyone knows the big guy gets the big gun, if you think otherwise it's because you're an uncultured stain of mold on the side of a beeping fire detector.

>>96129741
Techmarines are red until I paint mine black, this doesnt matter and you can paint them how you want

>Tactical Squad to be phased out in the next edition since Scouring is guaranteed to get HH-style Mk VII and MkVIII kits
When Primaris were introduced I was quite unhappy with the almost certain squatting of the Firstborn but them being moved to the never-ending comfort-zone of Scourging and Badab War is the best possible outcome.

>>96129731
Heres what WD291 actually says about their color, it is tradition to paint it red but that doesn't mean its always the case

>>96129633
>TECHMARINES ARE RED WITH THEIR CHAPTER ON THE SHOULDER
You can do whatever the fuck you want with the models.

>>96129758
Because big guys with big guns is awesome

>>96129758
Fake variety, simple as.

>>96129758
The guy with the big gun gets heavier armor because then he'll be better armored.
He's gonna be slower anyway due to the weapon he carries, so might as well give him extra protection to even the odds.

>>96129698
tactical rock AND a loin cloth
Lol
Lmao

>>96129611
Tartan bushido sounds rad af

so I just watched the preview and I'm fucking livid. FOUR FUCKING marine releases + space marine killteam box (like every other fucking one) and a lackluster addition to the worst faction of recent years. no AdMech, no orks, no nothing that's even remotely interesting, not even fucking chaos. Titus's helmet must be the most egregious consoomer slop ever, it makes me fucking mad

at this point I am hoping for female marines. at least it's honest shit and not disingenuous like this crap

>>96129758
There was no reason to give it to a normal guy either, it just looks better on the more armored guy and the deathwatch kill team looks better with a mixture of armour configurations.

>>96129633
Sorry to break it to you anon.

>>96129794
You're the dumb one for setting up unreasonable expectations instead of listening to people telling you what was going to be announced.

>>96129633
It's almost only secondaries who deal in absolutes.

>>96129698
I'm really glad this guy exists, he looks like a worthy adversary for my EC guys. The Iron Hands have it so rough both in lore and on tabletop that they're not very good rival material, feels like beating up a toddler. I just feel bad for them more than anything. Hope they get more cool stuff in the future.

>>96129794
What did you expect to happen? not every reveal is tailored for you

>>96129758
Cawl mandated it.

Got to play a game for the first time in forever today
It was pretty easy going while we all remember how to play as its been years but was good to get back into it
My battlewagon got obliterated on the first turn of its maiden voyage in game one as is tradition for my bigger vehicles, but got to do some work for the ork/necron xenos alliance vs the imperials in the second game. I want to give my Dark Eldar or CSMs a run next time we play I think

>>96129758
>Why did GW have to put the heavy weapons for the Deathwatch Kill Team refresh in Gravis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHgZh4GV9G0

>>96129741
> arguing against something i didnt say
reading comprehension faggot

>>96129747
kys

>>96129698
I'll grab this guy, sand the shoulder pad and voila cool ass terminator captain.

>>96129731
Its pretty bad and I'm having no progress.

>>96129777
But Gravis armor looks lame
Also, isn't it dumb to waste marine in unprotected stationary turret like that: >>96129633 considering the smurfs autism with 1k per chapter

>>96129819
who was it tailored for tho? votan players need some models, fine. but the entire rest being SM only is is just pathetic. I never met an intelligent space marine player

>>96129847
>gets proven wrong
>spergs out
typical

>>96129847
Post models

>>96129874
Most podels

>>96129716
Watch more youtube tutorials
Get better tools

>>96129869
Yeah votann players and SM players, like half of 40k players are sm players of course theyre going to get a good amount of releases

>>96129867
>unprotected
Nigger, the chatbot you're asking for image descriptions is even more blind than your sorry ass.

>>96129716
Did you shake your paints?

>>96129847
Shut the fuck up /v/ermin or post your models.

>>96129847
You have no miniatures

>>96129887
Well I have a miniature penis

Wait, STILL no new assault termies?

>>96129891
you're in the right place then

>>96129838
how'd you lose the battlewagon? it doesn't have smoke or some other defensive stratagem?
and what are those models at the top right between the orks and single necron? skaven?

>>96129878
>like half of 40k players are sm players
I will never understand this. at the lgs we have maybe three SM guys and they are just plain stupid. if asked why they like marines they always answer something like "they're the good guys" and it fucking infuriates me

>>96129896
First you have to buy the normal terminators, otherwise the normal terminators would never sell.
Same reason they didn't release jump assault marines until a whole edition of assault marines on foot.
And then you'll never find assault terminators in bundle boxsets, only normal terminators.

>>96129891
to go along with your miniature brain!

>>96129908
>if asked
Way too naive of you to ask for thoughts out of npcs, there's no thinking going on back there, it's only the minimal amount of confabulations to pass the turing test.

>Argument happens
>random anons mass reply the dude
This is like the spineless faggots orbiting around a bully who come in to deliver a few shit kicks when the victim is already knocked on the floor to get a cheap thrill as if they weren't weak pathetic losers.

Why are so many anons here like that?

>>96129771
mk8 wont get a mass release

>>96129908
>random dude likes collecting models anon doesnt like
>anon has a melty
Lmao

>>96129716
post pics. i'll give honest feedback.

>>96129918
You do protest too much, post models and whether you think techmarines HAVE to be red by lore.

>>96129874

>>96129720
have you ever considered doing a squad of Wolfspear marines? you should do one.

>>96129908
>doesn't follow the fluff
>just likes the models and game
dunno they sound based to me

>>96129929
>protest too much
Protest what? Faggots being faggots?

I think techmarines look good in bronze and silver

>>96129908
They play Space Marines because that is the faction the game advertises and the cheapest most readily available option. For some people it's not any more complicated than that.

>>96129908
>and it fucking infuriates me
this fucking sperg is doing the meme
>nooo 40k is making fun of you!
Get fucked!

Buri is cool and the Mad Core / Emberg-Aegnir Bloc fluff is also cool. Other new Votann are also p. cool and better than the 1st wave
t. nid autist

>>96129908
These guys sound based

>>96129938
>>doesn't follow the fluff
>>just likes the models and game
that's not what they said, they follow the wrong fluff and it's what influences their choice of models
it's so completely on its head that if they were to be based the only point of contact would be a tactical rock touching their helmet

>>96129899
>how'd you lose the battlewagon? it doesn't have smoke or some other defensive stratagem?
opponent rolled hot and I rolled bad, it happens. The battlewagon ate a hunter killer missile and lascannon that both rolled 6 for damage then just got finished by autocannon fire
>and what are those models at the top right between the orks and single necron? skaven?
yeah the lad playing necrons is just putting his dudes together so he was proxying with some of his blood bowl dudes to fill the squad out

>>96129879
>Nigger, the chatbot you're asking for image descriptions
???

>>96129944
>Protest what? Faggots being faggots?
Faggots getting bullied for being faggots, faggot.

Now scurry back where you crawled from.

this is substantially better than all the other SM combat patrols. only thing even more kino would have been sternguard instead of intercessors.

Everybody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

>>96129954
>they follow the wrong fluff
Gay retard alert. The right fluff is the fluff you like for /yourdudes/, the only wrong fluff is stuff you don't like for /yourdudes/

>>96129963
Im glad a lot of the unique models arent in the combat patrols, because some of these patrols are absolute dogshit.

>>96129944
>he has no models
Grim but expected

I wrote a summary of the Silent King novel's important lore bits and scenes. You guys interested in reading it? Just finishing up editing it a bit.

>>96129965
Threads always kinda ass for a few days after a reveal. /aosg/ is usually bad for 2 weeks it moves so slow

>>96129970
nobody posts models here anymore, anytime somebody does anons relentless shit on them.

>>96129971
Not particularly, I'll probably just post mucho texto

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96129975
An anon posted his first guys just the other day and everyone was really nice. Only time you get ripped on is of you're a greytider, a nomodels, or have been acting like a bitch

>>96129973
I think it is bad for 2 weeks because of other reasons

>>96129971
Unless it has gay enemies-to-lovers interspecies romance I'm not interested

>>96129867
Gravis armor is great.

>>96129978
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>96129908
Space marines are the good guys and that is a fact.

>>96129971
someone already did that a week agohttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96071432/#96074462

>its another "40k player plays every game with a named character" episode

>>96129994
Mine is more detailed, though, but alright.

>>96129990
I feel like Gravis is as divisive as Primaris itself. But part of that is probably due to aggressors being the main thing everyone thinks of when you say Gravis.

>>96130007
Autistically avoiding named characters looks worse than using named characters

>>96129994
so basically its a nothing burger novel? I guess that makes sense given it takes place even before the plague wars.

>>96130007
How will you know I am playing Iron Hands of I don't bring a named character?

>>96130009
I'm sure no one cares about the grease gang or the dumb fleet party

>>96130011
You know that it is possible to use named characters SOMETIMES, for larger engagements or where it's appropriate? You don't need to bring the chapter master to every skirmish.

>>96130014
Dark Imperium 1 v2 kinda spoiled the book, its the problem with writing stories with one logical conclusion (Guilliman uses faith to overcome necrons) before such a thing can happen (godblight).

I think GW was hoping folks would love the century of unknown information, with how much people clammer for mysteries, but what no one saw coming is that mysteries need to be solvable to be talked about.

Who shot Mr. Burns works because you can argue about it, if the episode just had him randomly get shot it wouldn't be compelling

>>96130024
No my dudes are the veteran company that deploys with Dante.

>>96130028
black library's 40k stuff has been exremely mid lately, i have high hopes for the scouring stuff tho.

>>96129633
Marinetard autismo maximus

>>96130034
>i have high hopes for the scouring stuff tho
I hope you understand this is just an excuse to rewrite the Canon on the death of every Primarch so that they set up all of their eventual returns

>>96130034
I think the book is good quality-wise, although no one here would ever say such a thing; however, it didn't live up to the expected plot points. It'd be like if echoes didn't have sanguinius fighting Angron

>>96130010
Gravis are great because they continue big dude in big armor aesthetic of marines. Unlike Phobos which just looks dumb.

>>96130039
Which primarch is confirmed to be dead, Dorn? We also have to stop pretending if a codex talked about dorn being around the same way it talked about his death we would cope and call it inuniverse propganda

>>96130007
>friend complains I run fabius bile every game
>he takes guilliman and calgar every game

>>96130010
Gravis solves the issue the heresy has had for years, people want heavier armored marines who aren't terminators

The old Changeling is a chunky lad

>>96130050
He's such a cool model

>>96130014
>>96130028
The Dawn of Fire series was meant to be a filler series mean to fleshout the 12 years between the Fall of Cadia and the Plague Wars (Dark Imperium series).

Due to the setting timeline revamp, COVID, and other stuff, it was delayed by a lot.

>>96130060
>Due to the setting timeline revamp,
like I pointed out , in an ideal world everyone should've loved a century we knew nothing about. All you "the heresy should've stayed a myth" people should also be protesting the timeline revamp

>>96130064
Nobody likes or cares about the timeline revamp.

>>96130066
Most of the fags here should

>>96130064
No. The timeline revamp happened because it meant that anything written in the century prior to the retcon had a foregone conclusion.

Prior to the retcon, the old version of the Dark Imperium books said that Roboute managed to secure Imperium Sanctus. This meant that the Imperium won all wars set in that century or at the very least rendered their enemies existentially non-threatening.

This meant zero hype.

>>96129967
No, the wrong fluff is the fluff that's wrong, you relativist pushover.

>>96130072
You can apply all those things to the pre-8th edition lore as well.

>>96130072
how did they fuck up like this in the first place, it's beyond a oops I slipped on a banana kind of mistake
its like Disney's lets make a trilogy of star wars movies with nothing concrete planned type of mistake

>>96129971
No, fuck off, we already got a better one.

>>96129954
>it's so completely on its head that if they were to be based the only point of contact would be a tactical rock touching their helmet
kek. I fear your verbosity is wasted on the frequenting autists

>>96130076
It's how anons here thought 40k worked back before 8th

>>96130079
Where?

>>96129908
If some retarded fuckwit randomly trundled up to me and started grilling me about my tastes in little plastic spaceman fightdudes, I'd probably give them a cheeky non-answer too.

>>96130076
Zero communication between the GW firms and the old management wanted to create a stable and concrete sandbox setting that leans toward noblebright.

Notice the artwork and direction in 8th ED and how GW did a 180 change in 9th ED. 8th ED did great damage to the image and reception of the setting. Because of it people think that the mperium is filled with hope and that its winning the war against everyone.

Artel W nightbringer.

>>96130060
>due to covid
We'll keep hearing this being blamed for the next 100 year's wont me for the most basic nuanced shit

>>96130106
Artel W Deceiver

>>96130107
>wont me for the most basic nuanced shit
U wot

>>96130106
>>96130110
Buy an ad

>>96130110
why does nobody run the deciever
why do people think his model is bad

>>96129758
Nobody will stop you from gluing the arms with that gun onto one of the other bodies. Its just your autism who makes this seem to be a problem

>>96130106
>>96130110
Aren't they open nazis?

Here we go

>>96129960
Faggots bullying other faggots doesn't mean they're not faggot in the first place, but you knew that, faggot
>>96129970
>post models!
>No I don't have models to post myself, why?
Every time

>>96130116
I want to say ESL but its actually 16 standard drinks over 5 hours
>We'll keep hearing covid being blamed for the next 100 year's for the most basic nuanced shit

>>96130106
nightbringer more like BRIGHTbringer amirite ehuehuehue

>>96130136
>no u
Classic

>>96130136
You keep protesting too much to not be that anon.

Keep crying at being proven wrong, cuck.

>>96130149
>Lamentersfag
>Be massive faggot
>stir shit every fucking thread
>lose argument? Post models

There's a reason people like Purple anon and not you

>>96130138
Oh I mean probably. They're still blaming shit on the housing crisis in the early 2000s

>>96129978
Range. Refreshed.

>>96130150
>circular logic
I forgot faggots are retarded

>>96130156
How did I lose an argument. You can paint your techmarine whatever colour you want. There's no correct colour for /yourdudes/.

>>96129971
No, not interested at all. Might have been in abstract, but for the fact you felt the need to make an attention whoring post begging for people to ask you for the thing you've already made rather than just posting it.

>>96130046
>Which primarch is confirmed to be dead
>Dorn?
Not him at least.

Only ones who are 100% confirmed dead are Sanguinius, Ferrus, Horus and Curze.

>>96130163
How is anon posting attention whoring? Are you well, sar?

>>96130164
Then why did the Emperor say he will meet Horus again?

>>96130131
I already thought the models were good you don't have to sell me on them harder.

>>96130131
Necrons are aliens, I don't think they ever were part of german's nationalist socialist party.

>>96130162
>lamenterstranny
>knowing what /yourdudes/ even is
lel

>>96130169
Horus still died.
GW is still of course going to bring him back anyway.

>>96130007
>named character is shite
>don't even like them as a character
>auto include anyway because model is sick

>>96130156
>grr he told me to post my models so I told him to post his models
>grrrrrrr he posted his models
So where did those models go little bro

>>96130169
That seems like a weird thing to say considering the Emperor blasted his soul into complete nothingness after their duel.

>>96130162
I'm not that fucking anon, retard, this >>96129918 is me.
Immediately after I mention the faggot behavior I get hit by "post models".

How about you stop being a shit stirring faggot for one fucking thread?
Or you can keep pretending I'm the originaly retard you were arguing with because you can't imagine that someone else could be tired of your bullshit? Whatever tickles your fancy you stupid whore.

>>96130182
Going by the text, there is no proof he did that.

>>96130182
>Emperor blasted his soul into complete nothingness after their duel.
He didn't. They completely retconned that.

>>96130175
I don't think lamenters are playing card themed or have orange death company normally. But hey maybe there's some secret group that follows my scheme and they're actually canon. That'd be neat

>>96130180
Who the fuck are you? Post your models if you like, I don't care what you have or not, you're a faggot, with or without models that doesn't change much, does it?

>>96130164
>Sanguinius
Just chilling in the warp. When the time is right (i.e. when GW stonks are low) he shall possess his soul fragment Sanguinor and become Sanguinus Reborn!
>Ferrus
Cawl built a spare Ferrus brain out of spare parts in a cave and grafted it onto the primarch's preserved body
>Horus
"I forgive and await you, my son."
Just as bringing primarchs back at all was GW's "break in case of emergency" strat, Horus is the primarch they break out once the emergency has an emergency.
>Curze
He's in a soulstone. He'll be brought back as a daemon primarch who hates every second of his life, just you watch

>>96130166
>rather than just posting it

His eyes are moe.

>>96130183
You seem upset. Maybe you should look into buying your first models. Maybe a techmarine. You can paint it red like that anon you're defending states is the only way to paint it if you'd like

>>96130178
>take named character with a sick model
>swap his dumb face for a helmet (helmets are cooler anyways)
>"named character? No, this is /mydude/, I just play him with [Named Character] stats"

>>96130204
based

>>96130203
See there you go again deflecting, why are you like this?

>>96130199
Gotta ask just in case another summary was posted or the pdf file was uploaded, which in case it was.
It saves time.

>>96130200
I like his big, dumb gun. Dunno if I want to get him though; I feel like I won't have too much use for a lone op gun guy in my army.

>>96130200
He looks like the league of legends gnome. Hemorrhoids-Dingleberry or whatever his name is

>>96130221
Omg pew pew big fight woah crossover skellingtons yay so cool

>>96130221
>m.jpg
That aside, I do wish there was some dumb rules for casual crossover play though.

>omg pew pew big fight woah crossover skellingtons yay so cool

There are some things mentioned in the Silent King book that don't sit right with me:
1-Roboute said that the powerful alien races the Imperium fought in the Great Crusade are nothing compared to the Necrons in terms of technology and might.
2-It's said a number of times that DAoT humanity wasn't as advanced as the Necrons and wouldn't be able to understand or replicate their technology.

>>96130209
It's not deflecting when the person you're defending is telling everyone else to stop having fun with their toys the way they want. You're defending literal trash. If it's not you, then you're just as bad for trying to defend somebody whose just trying to stomp out everyone's fun so he can act like the smartest nerd in the room. Shit sucks dude. Fuck that guy.

>>96130228
That'd be cool, which is why we have to make it ourselves

>>96130228
AOS uses a static to hit and to wound roll so itd be a bit tough

>>96130200
Man, the Votann design team is so out of ideas for their Space Minirines they're already giving them tyrannic war vets.

>>96130221
>m.jpg
I've been seeing this a lot and it's making me wonder how society has failed kids to make them so bad at something as simple as browsing 4chan on their phone. You'd think it's easy as pie but a lot of people clearly aren't up to it.

>>96130221
What is that giant fist holding

>>96130238
>>96130239
Yeah, that's kinda the problem. I doubt there's enough people who play both to make something in-between. There's also the added issue of whether you're porting AOS to 40K or 40K to AOS, you'll have to essentially plot out one entire franchise worth of new armies, and if you go for a hybrid ruleset, that's two franchises worth of armies to work around.

>>96130248
A space marine.

>>96130237
>stop being a faggot
>u mad? Buy models. Not deflecting
Shut the fuck up

>defending
That's the problem, retard, I ain't defending this faggot, I am attacking your faggot ass bullshit, it's not MY fault that you have a "me vs them" mentality.

If you weren't constantly shitposting maybe you could realize people aren't tribal fucks like you and can take offense to what you do while ALSO not liking what OTHER PEOPLE do.

Holy fucking shit get a grip woman

>>96130242
Wild considering the necromunda squats were well done.

>>96130252
Okay second question.
Why

>>96129698
I fucking love when they capture that cold, detached brutality the Iron Hands have going for them.

>Look at us. We're the Primaris Space Marines now.

>>96130251
Theres this old video I can never track down of three people playing Yugioh vs magic vs pokemon and one of the players has to take a prize card from the pokemon player.

Anyways, you could try to scale using the older edition AOS rules and units that are in both games like daemons

>>96130242
I think votanns look better with those neat runes, wish they're do more of that. Makes them more space dwarves and less squat-marines.

Guys. It's *the* Darnath Lysander.

>>96130183
>How about you stop being a shit stirring faggot for one fucking thread?
You first, faggot.

>>96130259
I SWEAR i've seen that exact same pose on the right model before

like identical but I dont know where

>>96130242
>implying wearing dead monster parts as a coat doesn't look rad as hell

>>96130278
Generic sergeant pose.

>>96130269
he looks lame

>>96130280
post it

>>96130251
>>96130263
I think the first question to ask if you were to do this is: do I want it the different systems to be equal?
If you do then you're gonna have inconsistency, like a human in 40k having pretty different stats compared to a human in AoS or TOW.
If you don't then you can simply work with the point values after bringing every profile and rule at the same level.

I think for the amount of stuff you're trying to bring together you'd want to streamline things as much as you can: a human is the same in all systems, a bow is the same in all systems, etc.

>>96130259
>we have enhanced the Squat bioform
>how, you ask? By giving them regular human proportions again
lol, squats really are the most worthless contribution. I was gonna say at least they released an Ironkin character that makes the ironkin look less like slaves and more like equals amongst kin, but then I read that his special ability is just enslaving other ironkin to his will.

So basically, he's a House Clanker. And Uncbot Tom.exe

>>96130228
>>96130239
A GW I used to go to would have 'Death Team' games for their anniversary, where you could bring any one 40k or AoS box bought during the anniversary month to play a 'deathmatch' game on a Necromunda board. It worked by just assigning appropriate Strength and Toughness to the AoS models.
Then one year a tranny brought the Age Of Darkness box and rules lawyered that he should be allowed to use it, which just made everyone miserable.

>>96129978
Lmao

>>96130279
Imagine the smell, though. It's either rank bug-stink or it smells so strongly of the bleach and acetone used to clean it that it's just not worth it for the style points.

>>96130279
He's probably the coolest votann they've released, that I won't deny.

He's still just a tyrannic war vet with a necron glaive weapon, tho.

WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH HIS HAIR?

>>96130288
>bioform
>ironkikn
Does not compute.

>>96130300
in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only the norwood reaper

>>96130305
First improvement was making them metal. Second improvement was patching out the manletism.

>>96130253
>wahhhh stop dog piling the poor faggot telling everyone how to play with their toys
>I'm not defending him though
Eat my ass bro, you can't possibly be making this claim rn. So what? We just let people be shitty without acknowledgement? Why. If you feel that way why is it okay for you to acknowledge me being shitty, but anyone else isn't allowed?

>>96130131
people here already buy recasts from commies, whats's it matter if it's another flavour of authoritarian?

>>96130278
Perhaps?

>>96130300
>daddy issues faction has a daddy issues haircut
What's the issue here exactly?

>>96130187
Have you painted a single 40k(or AoS for that matter) model since you came here like a year ago or are you perpetually too busy shitposting to do so?

>>96130278
You mean "guy standing there holding a sword"?

>>96130300
No morning shower. He's a night person.

>>96130278
It's a pretty basic space marine pose

>>96130259
I kinda like these desu. Jacked up murder bots.

>>96130310
> you can't possibly be making this claim rn
Of course not, but that's all you have, making shit up
>eat my ass
Are you flirting with me? Whore

>>96130300
He's so edgey and lame it loops back to being kino

>>96130288
>we have enhanced the Squat bioform
the squat body is optimised for deep space and far frontiers colonisation
the steeljacks are for war
if the leagues of votann were consistent with this idea and with their daot lore, then they would also ogryn cloneskeins

>>96130319
If I wasn't a helmet fanatic I'd say RG look better with buzzcuts and other kinds of short white hair

>checking GSC lists in the latest tourney
>it's 100+ Neophytes and 3 Benefictus at least in each

>>96130343
>buzzcuts
You're still utilizing daddy issues dykehair, which is perfect for space marines.

>>96130351
What faction do you collect?

>>96130328
>that hood and hair
Is this cypher?

>>96130353
Leagues of Votann

>>96130365
Based

>>96130328
So what happens with Shrike now? Both the model and the character.

>>96129631
Primaris were new in the lore until GW quickly decided to fast-forward the timeline 200 years to give primaris centuries of experience, recruits from the modern day, and veteran squads so they can better replace oldmarines

>>96130377
nta but I forgot about that holy shit

>>96130325
no, the sword being held at that exact angle

>>96130375
He's a captain again, apparently that's what he wanted
I don't care about "lore" so I'm just repeating what I've seen

>>96130375
Back to being a captain.

>>96130375
The warcom article says that Shrike just stepped down as the chapter master and let Aethon take over. He is still alive.
Shrike's model is kept around, no reason to delete it.

>>96130375
Shrike stepped down from his role as chapter master. His Shadowsun PTSD is too crippling for him to lead.

>>96130377
Didn't they rewind it back to only 12 years or so?

>>96130375
Presumably he steps down to lead the 3rd company again. And the current 3rd captain steps up to fill the vacancy Aethon left in the 1st company's captaincy.

>>96130288
The pose
The tentacle rape dildo arms with cpus inside
The big menacing cape
The fucking cock dataslate
Yup, this is the best votann character model we have

>>96130038
Marinetism funds every other army

>>96130269
Literally who? Can you give us a quick rundown?
>>96130259
How can you manage to make big chunky robots and still make them look/feel skinny

>>96130397
It really is, it makes me wish that Votann were a solely Ironkin army. GW should've just said nids ate all the biosquats and ironkin were the only ones left or something.

>>96130320
Ye, I did some boners, bunch of stuff for warcry, bunch of random backlog bits and bobs. Also been working slowly on another leviathan since Christmas, but outside him and some agents dudes nothing else in the new year

>>96130038
Well, no one touched up on their height yet so we are fine...

>>96130259
Don't these guys look suspiciously similar to the Iron Man from the Blackstone Fortress game?

>>96129908
>Autistic sperg comes up interrupting my game with my buds stammering out a question about my tastes
>He's out of breath and red in the face already
>Want him to be so I give him some non answer about my marines being good guys and go back to playing
>See him having conniptions and skittering off to some corner of the store

>>96130377
they backtracked that real quick and then broke the timeline for everything they'd written as a result and the entire dawn of fire series was their attempt at "fixing" the mess they made

>>96130417
Not really, limbs are way too articulated and the warjacks are basically just normal dudes but robots instead of retro scifi clankbots. But also keep in mind the BSF man of iron was explicitly in disguise as a "sanctioned Imperium warbot" or something, so maybe he downgraded his frame to go incognito within the Imperium.

>>96130417
I see what you mean but I think it's mostly their similar color scheme that creates the impression.

>>96130410
damn fucked him up anon good shit

>>96130259
These would look a lot better if the legs were bulkier and they had more of a dread style foot

>>96130377
Opposite.
Originally when they moved the story forward and added primaris, during that time IRL, the timeline was around like M42 year 112 or something, and the Indomitus Crusade had concluded.
That was the ORIGINAL idea that GW used IRL.

But then LATER, GW decided that it'd be better and cooler if all this shit we are seeing now (pariah nexus, octarius concluding, 4th tyrannic war, etc.) is instead taking place DURING the Indomitus Crusade that G-man kicked off.
So GW "winded" the timeline back by about a century. So it is still M42 but it's like M42, year 12. However GW DIDN'T retcon any of the events, all the events still happen, but all of it happens much earlier in the timeline than you think.

And currently the Indomitus crusade is still ongoing, that's the modern IRL version of lore currently.

>>96130258
>get sent to retake planet
>kill the invaders
>kill survivors who didn't fight back
>turn survivors who did into servitors as a reward for their bravery
BASED Hands making the galaxy a worse place for our entertainment

>>96130440
for me it's the iron hands being unwitting pawns of the mechanicus because the admech quietly rewrote all their history and brainwashed them

>>96129877
>>96129880
>>96129928
I'm not at the totally newbie stage where the paint is thick, it's just that everything looks shitty, everything new I try I fuck up badly, I can't glaze shit and basically anything more complex than basecoat wash highlight I fuck up.
This mini I'm painting right now might genuinely be my worst one yet. If it wasn't so expensive I'd honestly throw it away just so I don't have to look at it. Fuck this hobby and fuck my useless ass.

>>96130430
Ironkin mimic ordinary kin. They are not actually people.

>>96130410
carnac you should talk and have weird gotcha fights with yourself less

>>96130448
>They are not actually people
Neither are manlets.

>>96130452
Away with you /v/ermin larper

I wonder if the Steel jacks will fit space marine heads on them.

Wat happens in Ghazghkull, Prophet of the Waaagh?

>>96130375
I feel like this reshuffling confirm that Corax is returning next

wait you're supposed to put nuln oil on before you highlight?

>>96130458
The kin are more human than the Imperium.
Imperium and mechanicus are just a retarded cargocult made of illiterate retards.

Squats are unironically the true descendants and heirs of the DAoT empire.

>>96130436
>However GW DIDN'T retcon any of the events, all the events still happen, but all of it happens much earlier in the timeline than you think.
They retconned them to be ongoing rather than being settled.

Also, in the 8th ED, they broke up the 13th Black Crusade and said it was over. 9th ED retccnned that and said that it was still ongoing and gaining momemtum as it drives toward Terra.

>>96130466
Lmao delusional, the yiff codex already spoiled that lemon is next

>>96130440
You gotta live life to the fullest, man.

>>96130465
Nothing. It's just Mekki telling an Inquisitor the backstory of Ghaz through a Bloodaxe translator.

>>96130464
Potentially yes. But I doubt it'd look that good.
But I bet you can take the steeljack arms and put those on marines and use them as cybernetics.

>>96130278

>>96130469
>The kin are more human than the Imperium.
So are necrons and orks. Not an argument.

>>96130466
Scouring series confirms that Dorn and Perty are next and will release alongside the updated Iron Cage lore
Dorn's broken body will be transplated into a DAoT dread built by Cawl, and Perty will be retconned into being turned into a daemon after going through the Forge of Souls because he signed a contract with Vashtorr to save him from the soul degradation that Fulgrim inflicted on him

>>96130286
honestly could be its own thread

>>96130470
the 13th black crusade was retconned in 5th not eigth

>>96130481
I hate the new generations of upgrade kits

>>96130488
>Dread Dorn
Please let it be real

>>96130446
For me its https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Moirae_Schism
>Guys I've discovered a device that can accurately predict the future!
>I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU

>>96130496
>A bunch of pauldrons, one chest and 3 helmets
Is this supposed to be better lmao

>>96130487
Cope

>>96130470
>9th ED retccnned that and said that it was still ongoing and gaining momemtum as it drives toward Terra.
Oh yeah? Where is that front now after 12 years? That front that Abaddon abandoned to go on a side quest and Gulliman hasn't even looked at?

>>96130505
>f*ndom

>>96130506
I'd say, yeah

>>96130502
Curze mentions dorn being dead in his novella

>>96130417
If anything they look closer to admech kastelan bots but with a far more versatile and advanced looking frame. Maybe it's just the head piece of the one in the middle giving this impression but still. My personal taste is usually targeted towards more bulky robots like the blackstone fortress one but that's just personal preference. The votann combat bots look kinda skinny

>>96130509

>>96130515
he looks like a soijak
>>96130517
GW has never retconned Dorn's fate before so this must mean it's true

>>96130509
>>96130520
if I hadn't watched the livestream I would have assumed this was an edit from a shitty 90s kids show on public access television

>>96130502
Gurren Lagaan but it's dorn piloting the Phalanx

>>96130523
if we get pedantic yeah I don't think GW retcons that much in general, people just arbitrarily assign some statements to be axiomatic.

The same type of statements in codex saying dorn is alive or dead would be called inuniverse propaganda if it said something about the admech devolping nonwarp teleportation

>>96129922
Mk VIII will get a command squad release, mark my words.

>>96130531
Fuck you that'd be cool
>new battlefleet gothic edition
>dorn phallanx mech

>>96130538
nta but I'm convinced HH will give us mk8 now that the scouring is confirmed. Badab war 3.0 sooner than later

>>96130468
you can do whatever you want in life

>>96130538
Let's hope not. Mk X might be the most controversial by a mile and a half, but it at least looks better than Mk VIII.

wouldn't it be cool if BL gave us some interesting stories about what's happening nihilus instead of putting all their writers on primarch wank HH 2.0?
I think it would be pretty cool.

>>96130515
>Hip adornments and unique arms
Nah, this clears the old one

>>96130550
Trying too hard

>Look at me. I'm the Tyrannic War Veteran now.

>>96130547
There are many stories set in Imperium Nihilus.
Darkness in the Blood
The Spears of the Emperor
Lords of Silence
Shadowsun
And many more.

>>96130509
He looks like a soijak lol

>>96130553
I'm still confused as to why GW made a 4th tyrannic war and didn't give UM nid war vets

>>96130468
You can use nuln before or after. Applying after will soften your highlight but may add some coffee staining, although the new formula is pretty good at avoiding that. Using it before you'd usually basecoat, shade, layer, then highlight.

>>96130560
no one reads the novels, until we get a campaign book thats explicitly over there with exclusive minis and army rules no one will know anything about the dark imperium

>>96130560
4 books vs 8000 of "my daddy is a bad guy :'(" part 2: the baddest guys are running away and the goodest guy is dead

>>96130565
every model in the Indomitus box has the indomitus crusade honor, maybe there is a tyrannic war honor on the decal sheet

mk4 dreads are the best

>>96130576
Amen, can't wait for HH to bring 'em back

>>96130517
Dorn was originally the most dead of the Primarchs and has been slowly getting less dead each and every edition

>>96130565
As I recall it any unit can become TWVs under the Leviathan crusade rules. It's not unique to smurfs.

>>96130434
carnac you should take your medication

>>96130582
Not to nitpick but i'm pretty sure horus and sanguinus are tied for "most dead."

>>96130565
They did, they just also gave them to everyone else at the same time

>>96130569
?
There are a number of campaign books set there.
Arks of Omen: The Lion happens in Nihilus.
Everything related to the T'au outside Farsight happens in Nihilus.
The Kill Team current season is set in Nihilus.
etc.

>There are few Iron Hands that exemplify their Chapter’s creed more than Caanok Var, the Iron Captain of Clan Avernii – the most heavily augmented veterans of their brotherhood. He is a merciless and efficient warlord who has been at the forefront of the Iron Hands’ wars for longer than any can remember, sustained by ancient masterwork augmetics that encompass almost his entire body. In fact, some say that his left eye is the last original part of Caanok Var, with the rest given over to the blessed machine.
>Like all members of Clan Avernii, Var feels little more than burning hatred for his Chapter’s enemies, but he maintains an outward appearance of cold and stoic logic typical of the Iron Hands. His extensive suite of bionics and data-tethers feeds real-time battlefield data right into his mind so he can formulate efficient solutions on the fly, and if that isn’t enough to secure victory, his enormous power tetsubo will simply crush whatever stands before him.

>real-time battlefield data right into his mind so he can formulate efficient solutions on the fly,

PLEASE BE AN ARMY BUFFING CHARACTER AND NOT A TERMINATOR STAT STICKPLEASE PLEASE PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE

>>96130596
Didn't the last Siege of Terra book retcon Horus' Total Soul Death(tm) to now be more ambiguous?

>>96130596
I don't count those two because Horusclone and Sanguinor bullshit are both distinct paths for them """coming back"""

>>96130596
Ferrus is probably the Most Dead because Iron Hands aren't popular enough for them to consider bringing him back like the others.

>>96130552
>Seething about differing opinions
Real /v/ermin post

>>96130242
>only space marines fight nids

>>96130611
Legion of the Damned
>"Shapes raged in the flames – shadows and suggestions doing battle with the daemons, their fiery forms indistinct and ever-changing. The fire-born avatars of fallen Ten Thousand, knee-deep in psychic fire and thrusting with lances of flame. The silhouettes of Space Marines, the betrayed dead of Isstvan bearing axes and blades and claws; half-seen sigils of slaughtered Legions obscured by the ash of their blackened armour. A giant among giants, its great hands bared and ready as it seared forwards at the crest of the tidal fire. The tenth son of a dying empire, so briefly reborn in his father’s immolating wrath."
>Tenth son of a dying empire

>>96130605
Dante will mantle the Sanguinor next time he's near death and will become a demi-primarch / living saint hybrid

>>96130602
Re-rolls of 1 for shooting and melee + tip

>>96130575
>>96130594
>>96130597
I meant models :(

>>96130528
its this kind of cheesy they should have tapped into for their warhammer tv shows, instead of having presenters who look like they work at starbucks sitting in sets that look like starbucks

>>96130621
>dante forced to keep fighting for even longer
lfmao

>>96130602
Generate CP whenever you Techmarine buff a vehicle, and said vehicles get a 5++

>>96130604
I haven't read that shit but somebody further up the thread mentioned something to that effect. So I wouldn't be surprised. Those two were the only ones that seemed Truly Most Sincerely Dead anyway. Even folks like Dorn or Curze had some ambiguous wiggle room. But retcons be retcons.

>>96130565
Because in WARhammer, being a WAR veteran is nothing special.
How about Armageddon war veteran? Which one? How about Damocles veteran? How about Pariah Nexus veteran? And Devastation of Baal BA veterans?
Them making a specific rule for a warzone is weird. Everyone's a veteran, its nothing special.

>>96130646
Ok

>>96130601
you're proving my point, until we get ham fisted "dark imperium chapter/regiment/craftwrold" rules no one will care

>>96130604
as a Black Legion player, not sure I want him to come back, especially if its just so GW can sell another $100 model

>>96130646
Yea, let's delete Grey Knights too, they're really just fancy Daemon War vets, nothing actually special about them.

Imagine playing a chapter where the first captain doesn't wear tactical dreadnought armor. Imagine living with that embarrassment.

>>96130471
>Lmao delusional, the yiff codex already spoiled that lemon is next
Wasn't Russ supposed to return at the very end for Ragnarok?

Starting a Sisters army, I can't decide between Our Martyred Lady, Bloody Rose, or my OC Order (probably just black armor and white cloth to nun-max the aesthetic)

I do like that Sisters lore lets you goo full /yourgals/ in a canon Order

>>96130675
nta but the lion was also supposed to return in the worst moment and it's just the big warp cunt across the stars

>>96130654
My point still stands. I was talking about GW making models and rules for a specific war veteran years ago.
>>96130661
They're not daemon war veterans. They were made for fighting daemons. They are not ordinary marines who are veterans of a war.
Same with Deathwatch. They are made to fight xenos, but they are not veterans of a *specific* war. That's just weird.

>>96130232
That sounds correct though.

>>96130602
This is a total pipe dream but I think one very funny thing an Iron Hands character could do is remove the 'Infantry' keyword from all Infantry and give them the 'Vehicle' + 'Walker' Keywords. Synergy with a few strats, cucks a couple weapon profiles ect

>>96130618
>punished war veteran in blue power armor wearing tyranid war trophies bearing cybernetic limb replacements to showcase how desperately they've fought
Am I describing tyrannic war veterans or the new votann character?

>>96130672
Do they still sell the BA guy?

>>96130178
opposite of this is Lord Solar for IG

>>96130692
>one set you can find on shelves (soon), the other you can't
you tell me which is which :^)

>>96130576
Mk4 has my fave everything aside from the sarcophagus and the lanky arms

Hi frens ! Been wondering if flash gitz is worth it, I have been making this dude in less than an hour, maybe I should put it in my 2000pts stompa list...

>>96130655
Blood Angels.
The entirety of the T'au Cadres
Dark Angels.
Done.

>>96129673
turrets can maybe be re-used for sponsons or hull-mounted guns + destroyed scatter terrain

>>96129652
blood angel apothecary duties are done by the sanguinary priests. so not all/most ranking officers, but they're certainly held in very high regard

>>96130689
Did you forget about the Rangdans?

>>96130646
If Farsight ever gets special troops GW should make them ork and nid vets

>>96129851
very white scars, i like it

>>96130749
The species that got wiped out?
They're lower tier than Tau.

>>96130757
If the imperium had as many resources on damocles as they had during the langranglang genocides the tau wouldn't last, hell they know they almost got wiped at damocles

>>96130768
>they almost got wiped at damocles
New cope?

>>96130756
Stealing another chapter's relics is more of a Blood Ravens thing, tho

>>96130768
>hell they know they almost got wiped at damocles
You know that this isn't true, and GW retconned much of the lore of the Damocles Crusade to reflect how it wasn't a threat to the T'au.

>>96130712
You didn't amswer the question, anon. Don't tell me you're conceding this easily.

new iron hands character reminds me i still have half a leviathan box waiting to /my duded/ into an iron successor for my forgeworld

>>96130777
>t'au
trying too hard /u/shaskais

>>96129954
>they follow the wrong fluff and it's what influences their choice of models
the only thing that should influence which models you bring is their likelihood to lead to a win x coolness factor

>>96130786
Tau is a human mispronunciation of the word T'au, lorelet.

>>96130789
t'au is a 2012 corposlop invention to be copyrightable, /v/ermin

>>96130506
You want to see hilarious, look at the blood angels one. You get ONE HALF of a storm bolter, not even the full thing.

>>96130602
>In fact, some say that his left eye is the last original part of Caanok Var, with the rest given over to the blessed machine.
So that means he's the only loyalist mormal firstborn marine model GW has released for mainline 40k since the reveal of the primaris.

>>96130686
your point is retarded, that's what it is
Nid war vets ARE special because they were specialist at killing nids with a unique rule

There used to be models, they could bring them back, that's the whole fucking argument, GW never doing models for veterans of other warzones is another issue entirely.

>>96130787
>the only thing that should influence which models you bring is their likelihood to lead to a win
You should have been dropped on your head way harder than you got, when you were a baby.

>>96130813
nu DA upgrade also does this.
Not even a full one with a custom magazine or anything. I guess at least the DA one gets some feathers

>>96130829
Then we need to make Armageddon Ork hunters rules.
How about BA anti tyranids rules?
How about Ghazzy's anti imperial tanks orks?
The Crimson Fists are good at fighting orks. Where are their models and rules? Same with the Black Templars.
Space Wolves are good at fighting daemons from the 1st war of Armageddon.
How about my yourdudes Eldars who are veterans at fighting my friend's necrons? Why dont they have special rules?
See why this is retarded?

>>96130817
He's in Primaris armor. Nobody cares about what's inside the armor.

>>96130847
Veteran units as a whole should return, even if it's just as an optional crusade units.

>>96130796
carnac you’re a zoomer and weren’t even around a warhammer in 2012, it’s a weird fight to be having with yourself

>>96130847
>We can't have all this cool stuff, that'd be retarded
Uuuuuuuuh...

>>96130847
NTA but while I agree that giving specialist rule of that kind is something appropriate for Crusade, upgrade kits made to customise models as specialists against a specific enemy would be very cool.

>>96130847
Marines used to have rule to give preferred enemy/hatred towards a specific faction.
Also when did any of these had models or a codex entry?

I think you just dislike tyrannic vets and are trying to impose your shit onto people.

>>96130852
>>96130859
I agree it could be nice to have an upgrade for battleline or even all generic units that make them veterans, like more attacks, OC, movement, or other skills etc.
>>96130858
The retarded part is GW did this for just one space marine chapter for one war, not as an option for every or most units in the game.

>>96130856
>carnac you’re a zoomer and weren’t even around a warhammer in 2012

Unless we have a dread pirate Roberts situation, Carnac did indeed start shit posting her at least in 2012 if not before

>>96130565
GW wants to avoid making a dozen chapter specific units and is making them very sparingly and selectively now.
Ultramarines in particular are THE normal marine chapter, so they don't want it to have abnormal units other than special characters.

I'd also argue that nid war veterans are so fucking cool and the wars with the nids have been so widespread now, that almost all chapters have at least one great historical beef against tyranids at some point of their existence and could argue a unit of nid war vets would make sense for them too
>original formation of the deathwing's bone color scheme for dark angels
>1st and 2nd tyrannic war for ultramarines
>devastation of baal for blood angels (that time in the space hulk doesn't count as there weren't that many survivors kek)
>assault of the fang (warhammer world diorama) for the space wolves and trials against fenris's kraken
>solblades in defense against the new 4th tyrannic war

the only problem is that then people would end up wanting ork war veterans and necrons war veterans and mode besides, so perhaps more than a unit, it would make more sense to make a new series of generic lieutenants all themed around a specific war, and we already have the nid veteran of oghram too, we just need one for damocles, one for the pariah nexus and one for the orks

>>96130870
don't reply to the larper

>>96130869
That doesn't change that GW didn't make models for them or rules for the occasion.

>>96130777
The damocles novels are quite old so yeah im gonna accept that retcon, but only because I play tau. I just think them giving the imperium a run for their money while also almost losing at dalyth is more compelling than "the ethereals planned it all along"
But im the aun'va fan from these threads who keeps saying farsight sucks dick and the ethereals are based and tau should be evil and neoimperialist. So I take both

>>96129633
So what are the chances the rumors of a codex supplement for each chapter were false and these kill teams for each chapter was what they had intended? That picture of a salamander in gravis armor they teased months ago is probably just these kill teams

>>96130897
combat patrols, but yes the supplements aren't a thing

>>96130478
Until what point? His current incarnation with the gigantic body?

>>96130897
the sally pic was just teasing the characters I'd say, judging how the order was Sally - BT - Votann and we saw the codex for both BT and Votann

>>96130910
BUT VALRAK PROMISED ME A CODEX MARINE 2.0

>>96129672
ai slop
you can tell because it couldn't spell "Kantor" right

>>96130916
I'm not sure if you noticed but he's full of shit and nothing he predicted came true except the blindingly obvious

>>96130911
Unless Krongar, when he gets his stitched back on a bigger body.

>>96130891
Read Blade of Truth

>>96130930
wasn't wrong on anything this edition until this

>>96129731
red techmarines look fucking dumb
red armor looks stupid

>>96130930
I know. I was mocking his simps

>>96130917
You're bad at identifying slop

>>96130942
you're entitled to your wrong opinion

>>96130936
I don't like Phil Kelly, I only listened to the first Farsight book

>>96130950
He isn't, look at the back banner it's very clearly cleaned up ai slop

>>96130953
Then how are you going to read the plot twist about the Damocles Crusade being a just as planned by Aun'Va?

>>96130970
>all according to gaykaku
Is there a worse "plot twist"?

>>96130975
>Is there a worse "plot twist"?
Suddenly Chaos

>>96130958
No, you ARE bad at identifying slop, you can find 7 years old sites with this picture on it.

It's not ai slop, it's asian slop.

>>96130970
An anon made a summary here when he read the book as soon as it came out and I read through all of it, he even put up direct quotes as to what happened. Im pretty sure that's the most interesting thing in the whole novel aside from tyranid fighting. Might pick a pdf up just to read that specific part. Phil Kelly's prose isnt good enough to warrant me buying the book and wasting like 3 or so hours to read it.

>>96130910
>>96130916
everyone was expecting a new plastic vulkan hestan model

all we got were shitty combat patrols

sad

>>96130979

>>96130980
Then why does it say "Kanior" on his banner? kill yourself faggot

>>96130979
Chaos is the spice that makes the Warhams great.
You can never have enough of it.

>>96130942
ur gay

>>96131010
nta but, maybe the artist made a mistake?

>>96131013
You absolutely can put too much spice on a dish and make it completely disgusting. Even your retarded food analogy failed.

>>96131013
>The LD50 of capsaicin, the compound that makes peppers spicy, is around 47.2 mg/kg in mice. This means that a dose of 47.2 mg of capsaicin per kilogram of body weight would be lethal to 50% of a population of mice

>>96131010
because the artist is a fucking chong and used as reference a stock image of the model and mistook the T on the banner for an I because it's white on white.

Look at the first stock image of the model and squint your eyes to see like a chink would.

>>96130975
It really doesn't make a lot of sense for it to even be such a thing since it was the first major engagement they'd had with the Imperium so there was no way to actually plan ahead. Since the extent of their capabilities at that point was still largely unknown.

>>96130975
>you know this character? he was actually a sockpuppet of this other character all along I just decided

>>96131027
The novel outright says that Aun'Va used legions of Gue'vesa spies to study the lords of Terra and their reactions. Then he intisgated the Damocles Crusade by subverting the Timbra sub-sector. He let the outer colonies fall without much of a fight to bait the Imperium into attacking into the heart of the T'au Empire where they could witness the strength of the T'au Empire in full and realise that waging war against the Tau Empire is a very costly proposition.

>>96131019
It says "kantor" correctly on the leg, though
it's AI slop

>>96131050
because the T on the stock model is more visible there

>>96131050
To be fair, the original banner has the T in a weird position that could be mistaken for an I too

>>96131010
Why are you getting pissy for getting corrected? Don't tell me you genuinely want to argue it's AI slop that traveled back in time to a period when this shit wasn't used.

>>96131038
Oh..wait I forgot something. Aun'Va also had an ally Inquisitor who helped him out.

>>96131050
>it's AI slop
So we have a skynet situation?

>>96130779
Neither did you. Conceding comes easy to you types.

>>96131038
So what you're saying is that anything is possible with the power of author fiat, logic be damned. Cause that is objectively worse than the original lore of it simply being a hard-fought campaign on both sides, and it doesn't address the fact that the Imperial Navy would just glass the planets with impunity since Tau don't have real FTL travel and can't really do anything to stop them.

>>96131038
I liked it more when the tau laughed at the idea of humans having a galatic empire and just shrugged it off when they first met them as deranged folk tales from an inferior and more primal species
>>96131013
Some people out here saying the ethereals are chaos spawns all along you can absolutely have too much chaos sloppa.

>>96131013
The Imperium are actually all 40k Flesh Eater Courts that are so delusional they don't realize they are in service to the 5th chaos god and that still see themselves as noble knights while actually being degenerate warped wretches.

>>96131094
>and it doesn't address the fact that the Imperial Navy would just glass the planets with impunity since Tau don't have real FTL travel and can't really do anything to stop them.
The Imperial was ambushed by the Dal'yth sept and suffered significant damage.
Also, the T'ay live in a hyper-dense cluster if stars. Distances between systems are small.

>>96131094
I thought Tau got some kinda near FTL drive from the votrann

>>96131094
>power of author fiat, logic be damned.
Look who is talking

Only eight rumor engines remain unsolved now. How many of these do you think might be 40K related?

>>96131125
You can't defend everything at once unless you vastly outnumber your opponent. Since an entire fleet could drop out of the warp orbiting any particular planet, you are forced to defend everything. Even if you aren't virus-bombing them it doesn't take all that long to fuck a planet up from orbit. By the time reinforcements arrive you just warp to another planet and repeat the process. The short-range tau jump technology can't compete. Realistically there's no real way to actually defend the tau home systems as is without, you know, the power of author fiat.

>>96131148
Spear and ambull I'd be confident to say 40k (can be necromunda/HH)
The top right maybe, middle bottom could be HH World Eaters, or just chaos warriors

Not many

>>96131150
>Realistically
Realistically such dysfunctional shithole as Imperium should've collapsed almost instantly

>>96131175
Oh for sure. But even Orks could pull this same trick. The paradox of defense is not easily solvable when everyone else in the universe is faster than you. Though I guess Tyranids don't actually have FTL either.

>>96131038
I find that a little silly in that the tau tend to avoid the pitfalls that the imperium and friends suffer, i.e.: with technology and shit. It runs in parallel with the votaan in that regard.

>>96131148
top left is an unreleased aos incarnate and will remain on the rumor engines list forever
top right is pestigors for aos
for middle right I'm putting money on seraphon spells for aos
top middle and middle left must be some kind of vampire character, so still aos
potions and flails say nothing about 40k

center is for an alpha legion kill team

>>96131203
>Though I guess Tyranids don't actually have FTL either.
What

Thoughts on using the Saturnine as the TSon robots if I pretty them up with some appropriate bits and transfers?
I use my 30k TSons in 40k

>>96131150
They weren't attacking everywhere. They were pinned in one system. Moreover, Warp travel depends on Warp routes and entry and exit points in stellar space.
The Eastern Fringes are known for being hard to navigate because the light of terra barely reaches it.

>>96131148
center is omegon

>>96131203
>The paradox of defense is not easily solvable when everyone else in the universe is faster than you.
It does when your opponent is clinical retard and Warp-travel are far from being reliable

>>96131225
dunno, ask /hhg/

>>96131050
>a word was mispelled on an image several years old
>AI! AI!
I see you lack any critical thinking skills.

>>96131225
they're not even close in size

>>96131203
>Tyranids don't actually have FTL
Oh no, it's retarded

>>96129672
obvious slop

>>96131225
I see no one gives a fuck about the bird bots lore.

>>96131225
You'd need to make the trim more spiky. But sure, it could look good.

>>96131251
>obvious slop
Anon, AI pictures didn't exist when this fanart was made.

If necromancy can just delete planetary bodies at the press of a button.
Why haven't they just automatically won yet?

>>96131256
It's dumb lore

>>96131256
Why would anyone? it's shitty and incoherent.

>>96131262
>comic
But the moon isn't a planet either! This makes no sense!

>>96131262
because it's not that easy, it's not without consequences, and because they're retarded.

>>96131261
even more embarrassing then

>>96131256
people would care if the bird bots looked good

>>96131300
I like them

>>96131300
They're just
>Robots that serve the Thousand Sons
It's just not that interesting.

>>96131308
It doesn't matter if you like shit, it only matter that shit is good, and it isn't.

I keep posting in the old threads before realizing there's a new one and it's really grinding my gears

>>96131273
It is in Sailor Moon lore

>>96131319
Very true, all models are actually OURdudes if you didn't have the thread pick your army and paints get the FUCK off our general.

>>96131273
That's just like your opinion man.

so
um
anything cool happen in the new novels this year? there was a tau novel and ork novel and i don't remember what else.

>>96129758
>why are heavies beeg?
Because they are full of sandvich

>>96131361
carnac stop talking to yourself and stop pretending you own a thread, you are just a schizophrenic

>>96129758

>>96131412
lot of that going around

>>96131319
Well good for me I don't care about opinions of some random faggot that probably doesn't even own models

>>96130672
>a chapter where the first captain doesn't wear tactical dreadnought armor
Anon those are chapter masters not 1st company captains

>>96131454
there is only one chapter master in that image

>>96131454
Logan is the only chapter master there, but he's also the 1st company captain.

>>96131454
not dangel or the bangel guy or the smurf or the iron hand or the imp fist

>>96131256
Why would they? The lor eis boring, and the sculpt itself is, at best, nothing to write home about. And at worst, it's horrendeus dogshit.

>>96131444
>Well good for me I don't care
Of course you don't, you don't actually like warhammer and your taste in everything is shit, expecting you to be able to care is absurd.

>>96131484
*rips ass all over youre post*
oops haha

>>96131484
Based hater, anon.

>>96131460
>>96131462
>>96131466
I saw Logan and ignored all the others. I am a fool my apologies

>>96131484
Uh oh /v/ermin melty

>>96130672
Imagine playing a chapter LMAO

Is it an unpopular opinion that 'Eavy Metal paintjobs are super bland and often make passable models look way shittier than they actually are?
Honestly, looking at most new models, I think "well this looks pretty shitty" until I see pretty much any other paintjob and realize it was just 'eavy metals fucking bland ass flat paint job.

>>96131503
Apologize again!

>>96131526
no that's a pretty common occurrence

>>96131526
Those models are shit no matter the choice of paintjob to hide the terrible details as much as possible.

>>96131526
That horned dog looks like shit and just like the new chaos dwarves, terrible sculptor

>>96130672
How hard would it be to convert Ageman into Calgar?
Or use the new terminator captain to make termie Calgar.

>>96131526
It's true in some cases, but here the models genuinely look fucking awful.

>>96130679
>oc order
I recall not all sisters orders are military sects. Some are clerical staff and hospital orderlies. You could go from there possibly a nurse unit that has been called up to fight in combat. They are greenhorns who’ve never seen much combat other than some battlefield surgery. Leader could be a reluctant Cannoness who has to whip med staff girls into fighting shape.

>>96131552
you can glue whatever arms you want to the starter set captain

>>96129672
>>96130917
No, it's just sloppy fanart. It predates ai image generators

>>96131552
i wish ageman would get its own character sheet with rules...
not just be a no named character. I love the ultra 1st company. the blue and white has grown on me.

>>96131484
rather sad projection there bud

>>96131619
keep samefagging about your own insecurities, faggot, see what happens

>>96131597
carnac it sure did take a lot of samefagging to get here but it’s over now

>>96131627
Uh oh/v/ermin melty x2

>>96129698
Why is the skull peeing?

>>96131526
Eavy metal looks to accentuate every possible detail of the sculpt first and foremost . So if the sculpt is, well, bad, an eavy metal paintjob can make it even more apparent. Trying to emulate this style is annoying as fuck anyway, doing a thousand edge highlights is tedious and often times not particularly fun

Chaos is sooo fucking boring nobody is excited seeing Tzeentch or Nurgle demons show up for the hundredth time

>>96131650
This but buzz lightyear

>>96131644
because your mouth is open ready to receive it

>>96131650
I'd be excited to see new demons models for sure.

Because nothing but the best would suffice for the Chapter Master of the Salamanders, Vulkan He'stan wears a bespoke suit of Mark X "Tacticus" battle-plate, decorated with gilded fire and draconic hide.

>>96131650
>um acktually what we need to show up is the Kabal of the Puckered Sphincter I think it would be so great to see Imperial citizens kidnapped and raped
naw kid

I noticed with shrike he always kept his 3rd company colors so I guess he was stepping down was always planned

>>96131661
Would've been cool if we got some new upgrades for Sallies, IF, IH and RG too.
The current ones are not great.

How's everyone's july entries going? We got about two weeks left, still plenty of time. Can't wait to see what everyone has cooked up. Also don't afraid to share your suggestions for next month's theme.

>>96131089
I asked first, anon. It's impolite to expect others to do what you yourself are unwilling to.

>>96131670
LEGENDS LMAO BYE BYE FAG

>>96131676
These bits are fine. It's more annoying that their decal sheet only has Raukaan stuff on it.

>>96131670
Huh I guess he never wanted the role to begin with

>>96130602
>In fact, some say that his left eye is the last original part of Caanok Var, with the rest given over to the blessed machine.
Is he really a space marine if he has none of the biological organ implants that make a space marine?

>>96131702
Salamander's upgrade is literally just 2 thunder hammers and 2 hand flamers. And then like 2 fucking helmets.
It's not a good upgrade sprue. Neither is that IH one.

What Black Templars and Dark Angels got as upgrade sprues should be the fucking minimum for all upgrade sprues.

>>96131728
>Is he really a space marine if he has none of the biological organ implants that make a space marine?
One of the reasons why I find Iron Hands really stupid and their gimmick retarded.

Tell me why tzeentch marines shouldn’t have bunny ears

>>96131670
>>96131710
The 8e codex supp that accompanied his model spelled that out in no uncertain terms and additionally stated that he was planning to immediately step down as soon as he had decided on who should replace him.

>>96131654
Weird projection but ok

>>96131744
Too iconic for Khorne Marines.

>>96131763
>weird projection pal, anyway whats with the pissing servoskull amirite
you are not the voice of reason or normality here, kiddo

>>96129771
Imagine if the Mk VII is basically interchangeable size-wise with Primaris. We'd finally arrive at the point GW should have done when they introduced Primaris in the first place.

>>96130536
Don't remember exactly who said it, but one of the writers said that when they decide to retcon something they usually just stop bringing it up and let it get overwritten by newer stuff instead of outright calling it a retcon.

>>96131684
It's going wel, I finished assembly, I going to prime them now and I will start painting tomorrow.
For next month maybe terrain or objective markers.

>>96131684
I will be priming my Blood Bulls and building my next Dominus Knight on Monday/Tuesday

>>96131684
They're done, I've already posted them (>>96129720) the picture is a bit dark tho, I'll probably retake them

>>96131845
you already know you're not allowed on the collage lmao

>>96131851
I have been given clearance

>>96129720
kino

>>96131853
No you haven't nigger

>>96131853
Nope!

>>96131861

>>96131684
Haven't started lmao.. worked on this guy. Would a trio of Inquisitors count as a "group of elites" for it?

>>96131863
Blood Bull Dominus Knight Elite Squad Incoming!!!

>>96131869
I love it Anon, he looks like a baby Cerastus Knight

>>96131661
>the Chapter Master of the Salamanders
I thought his title wasn't actually the one of chapter master

and honestly his mini is quite bad, the older one looked more details dense and striking

>new to 40k
>all the factions look sick as heck
>I want to make almost every army
How do you guys choose what your first army is gonna be?
I've narrowed it down to:
>Tyranids
>Imperial Guard
>Sisters of Battle
>Thousand Sons
>Emperors Children
>Chaos Undivided
>Adeptus Mechanicus
>Blood Angels

Like how do I pick

>>96131881
>old good new bad!!!
yawn

>>96131884
What about Space Wolves?

>>96131884
nids are cheap to buy, between the starter boxes (which get you some marines as well) and their new combat patrol you'll have a good mix of space bugs to start from.

guard can be good to start depending on what you want out of the army. if you want lots of tanks then its a great starter, if you want infantry swarm.. not so much.

100% not admech

>>96131884
Go with the guard.
We got
>most homebrew legroom
>most third party support
>most 3D printing STL support
>most autism

>>96131884
>Tyranids
decent starter, can still find people selling their leviathan half for a discount
>Imperial Guard
decent too, bit spendier to start collecting
>Sisters of Battle
more expensive and more annoying to paint as they have a high modelcount and more details than the average horde-ish army
>Thousand Sons
easy to collect but small roster and all the trim can be intimidating for first time painters
>Emperors Children
even smaller roster but less trim
>Chaos Undivided
widest model range of any chaos marines but the trim again can be an issue for beginners
>Adeptus Mechanicus
very expensive to collect and very detail-dense, not too great on the tabletop right now either
>Blood Angels
not a bad choice, simple to collect and paint, the newer models for them are pretty disappointing though

>>96131900
>most homebrew legroom
that's marines, it's always been marines

>>96131684
I just built and primed the palatine i am attaching to my sacresants, i don't want to paint more until monday when I get my basing stuff.

>>96131684
Another Canadian postal strike is probably going to delay the package I need to speedpaint the one ogryn I planned to paint for the July Entry.
But I must have misread the July entry as "elites" and not "elite squad" so I thought a singular miniature would be fine. My bad lads.

12 months until da boyz arrives. I hope their models will be good. I would love to start an ork army.

>>96131881
Adrax is 3rd captain
Vulcan He'stan is the appointed "quest guy" whos job it is to find all of the Primark's loot and facilitate his return

>>96129978
Khymeras are so fucking cool, I hope they come back in plastic.

>>96131945
They're bound to be very monopose.

>>96131684
Theme is elite squads, right? I can get three skorpekhs done but I dunno if I can get a full six with my schedule by the deadline.

>>96131886
>how dare you not fall over heel for inferior products

>>96132021
(you) tried

>>96132008
Monopose doesn't bother me really.

>>96132024
I bet you hear that often in life, uh?

>>96131869
Dunno how much we should stretch the theme, it's pretty loose already. 3 inquisitors is like 3 separate characters imo. Doubt collage anon will reject them though.

he'll make a decent techmarine

How can the imperium fight chaos on multiple planets for 18 years without anyone knowing about the existence of chaos? The whole "oh demons are a secret nobody knows about except for the ordo malleus xD" thing is total bullshit. Also marines clearly know about chaos.

>>96132083
A couple of people here have done terminator techmarine kitbashes recently, surprised they haven't had an official sculpt yet

>>96132083
Does he have a helmet variant to make him look less like an epic hero?

>>96131945
Have you considered a 2000pts elite Ork list ??

>>96132093
>Most enemies
traitors/heretics
>daemons
look at how the heretics consort with strange xenos

>>96132187
what about the eye of terror? the giant rift in space that sucks up planets?

>>96132093

>>96131684
I ran out of plastic cement but I'll grab a bottle of Airbrush Cleaner to refill my bottle on Monday. Gonna borrow an airbrush to prime my stuff tomorrow as well. I hope I can manage to paint 5 metamorphs & iconward by the end of the month.

>>96132093
Reminds me of a story I heard that went something like
>savlar chem-dogs (or another penal regiment) are fighting chaos space marines and daemons
>despite the odds stacked against them, the guardsmen show their courage and manage to overcome the enemy
>near the end of the story it talks about how brave the guardsmen are, how they overcame a greater enemy with strength and bravery and managed to secure victory for the imperium by the skin of their teeth
>AND THEN THE ENTIRE REGIMENT GETS EXECUTED BY THE INQUISITION BECAUSE THEY WERE EXPOSED TO CHAOS LOLOLOLOLOL FUCK YOU
its so retarded

>>96131526
its so utterly bizarre when the official photo looks like shit then you see it in person at the local with an amateur paint job and it looks fine

>>96132344
it doesn't, that set is dogshit regardless of paintjob

>>96132165
I love the Mad Max like vehicles but I want to wait until they show of the new models.

It could go wrong like the Beast Snagga models.

FRESH THREAD

>>96132378
>>96132378
>>96132378

>>96132367
You are a man of taste indeed, But consider buying a stompa for psychological advantage

>>96132385
Good point, thanks!

>>96132398
Anytime fren, it’s always Nice to help out another fellow Ork enjoyer

>>96131661
Vulkan He’stan is the forgefather and formerly a 1st company captain I believe. He’s like a specialist techmarine/artisan/chapter paragon looking for and preserving Primarch! Vulkan’s relics in the hope it’ll bring him back with those cigarettes.

Tu’shan is the Salamander chapter master, he’s never had a model but he was described in some of the Armageddon books I think. He’s known to wear terminator armour and famously beats the brakes off a Marine’s Malevolent captain over a friendly fire “incident”.

Adrax is the 3rd company captain and former side character from the Salamander books. His company are the designated Salamander puppy kickers who get sent in to burn cities alive because they liked the sound of a “Greater Good”.

>>96130813
I'm still mad that the original Primaris upgrade even fucking existed. What was even the point of the pistol and chainsword? They're both generic.
The Firstborn one still clears the new one by a mile even though it's smaller.

>>96132384
Can't you at least art dump the thread to image limit first like a normal productive schizo?

>>96132384
I think this guy is worst than the Elite Ork list anon

>>96132447
it sucks that BA got the worst of all primaris range refreshes. They deserve better.
You can tell nobody at GW have them as their favourite marines unlike BT or SW

>>96132516
I'm convinced someone in a position of power actively dislikes them. I refuse to believe that Mephiston is the only good updated model that they're capable of putting out without active sabotage from someone who hates the chapter and their aesthetic. He was the last model to have nipples, the last one to not be ruined by a stupid pose, and really the only character to be a complete a total upgrade from the old version in every way while still fundamentally losing nothing from the original design.

>>96132560
>all of the frustration and seething would be equal to zero if you choose the Ork faction, Gazhgkull Trakka, a few meganobz and a stompa and you will enjoy the hobby like you wouldnt believe

>>96132609
go back to spamming your shitty list and demanding feedback on it so I can filter your dogshit posts easier

>>96132609
I love and appreciate Orks and what they bring to the setting. I will not collect, paint, or play as them.

>>96132609
No thanks.

>>96132627
I do understand I started collecting SM and Custodes, but the frustration with the models became unbearable so I went to salvation of simplicity

>>96132621
>Seething this hard
Dude it’s fucking bits of plastics chill out, or try to build a family, it’s the greatest of all list building
>inb4 Rasheed with his 4 wives and 10 Kids
Yes indeed I do love my Littles gretchins runnin’ around

>>96132609
>running Ghazzy the FRAUD
Aw zog naw, not in MY WAAAAAGH

>>96132682
People told you to chill out the first day you started spamming and you decided to accelerate to try and surpass the decalnigger in terms of insufferability

>>96132695
Please explain how the gréât prophet(pbuh) is a fraud ???

>>96132696
>People told you to chill out the first day you started spamming

And I went to sub zero levels of chill indeed, in fact it has been remarked as of today that I haven’t posted a list in a long time

>>96132560
I passed on the BA lt. because it looked too plain back then. Now i wish I could find it at non-retarded prices. At least it looks like a BA mini and not a retarded AoS abomination like SG

>>96132733
You're spamming nonstop nigger, your posting is incredibly identifiable with your obsession with pajeets and sandniggers

>>96132715
He didn't level up properly, he just used mad dok transnob surgery to get bigga. He didn't grow. He didn't improve. He took a shortcut and gained nothing. He experienced a hollow victory.

He cheated not only the WAAAAGH, but himself.

>>96132747
The new captain is a good replacement.

>>96132761
That’s fair, but he is indeed DA BIGGEST BOSS !!!

>>96132792
He's a FAKE
He's a FRAUD
He's NOT INVITED TO MY WAAAAAGH

>>96132769
Meh. The stupid double chin in the helmet and the american football player armour still makes it inferior to the old designs, even if it has better proportions.

Although the rot began earlier with a few hideous units for the HH in 2017. You can see in there the same visual trends than in the newer 40k minis. I think it's not that somebody hates BA at GW, it's just that the guy in charge doesn't get them.

>>96132749
It’s almost like a fungus infestation

>>96132819
Well, he is invited to MINE, but bear with me anon what if...
>2 Waaaaghs makes BIGGER WAAAGH

>>96132826
Now you're sounding like some sort of humie git. No wonder you get along with Ghazzy.

>>96132832
ME IS NO HUMIE!!! SOD OFF !!

>>96132820
What's not to get? You have literally everything you need with all the art and old models to draw from to see what they're about. Never attribute to malice what can be blamed on ignorance or stupidity, but I'd have a hard time believing that whoever is in charge of model design doesn't understand "gothic renaissance vampires"

>>96132847

>>96132855
Kek!
Anyway show us your models I'm tired of seeing Marines

>>96132869
you type like a redditor
fuck off faggot

>>96132847
Cheatin instead of grinding out levels with good ol fashioned fightan? Sounds like a humie to me!

>>96132852
You would think that also "space romans" is a concept not difficult to grasp. But GW decided to make the captain of the fucking 2nd UM company a ginger with a thick scottish accent in phobos armour

>>96132747
>a retarded AoS abomination like SG
Look at their majestic wings. They are nothing like the Sanguinary Guards whose wingless jump packs hardly even lift their feet off the ground.

>>96132902
I don't like AoS, but these are definitely better models than nuSG, yeah

>>96132852
>all the art and old models
>gothic renaissance vampires
Pick no more than one.

>>96131571
oh no, my girls are going to be very violent. Part of their lore is that when they save an Imperial planet they lead the survivors in mass self-flagellation to atone for their sins

>>96132852
>"gothic renaissance vampires"
in that case he is not understanding BA at all. If the "designer" I qote that because who ver that is is a idiot, did not bother to read throu all the BA lore. It is stated that they are all artisans, they "model" and adjust there gear in long hours in attempt to control the black rage. each and ever models should look uniqe and not like ever other MKX priamirs mini.

>>96132944
What exactly are you saying here?

>>96133310
he is saying you cant condense design to a few words and be done with it. This is not a website.

>hurr durr gothic vampire's

The BA lost all of its flavor and identitie with that crap approach to design. There is no streamlining to done. Each and every chapter/legion has its own flow and vibe that makes them stand out from the others. GW fuckt up so badly that now everything is the same. everything plays the same. armies have become pawns. a miniature wargame is no just some fucking monopoly. designed by idiots for idiots.

>>96133258
She's 100% got a penis.