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>>96132786>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025
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https://www.tappedout.net
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https://mtg.design
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TQ: What commander are you building right now?
I proxied 4500 cards. Im probably 30 hours into cutting them out and I still have a third to go.
Should I put them into inner sleeves and sleeve up decks before I play or get 4500 of the same sleeves so I can just grab and go
>>96137875Having everything in the same sleeves is the best decision I ever made
>>96137758 (OP)>grapeshot is copied once thanks to storm>send both 1 damages to IndoDoes Indoโs enrage trigger twice?
Bello, Bard of Brambles as i'm enjoying the little fellow - it isn't your standard Gruul beatdown.
But struggling to find fun stax pieces to punch with, besides stuff like Stranglehold or Manabarbs.
Please send help.
>>96137758 (OP)I got lists for almost 12 decks that I need to put in orders for, need to sort out cards for Varina and Yshtola, then sleeve them along with Tifa.
I love these old hyper specific hatebears
>>96137758 (OP)Building Eggman. Basically just construct/robot tribal with a discard sub theme.
Iโve moved away from what was originally just Dino tribal to a deck that focuses more on Enraging Indo. But I also still love big dinos. Tetzimoc, Ghalta, and Etali stay in no matter what
>>96137758 (OP)>TQTearing apart Sephiroth and rebuilding Yawgmoth with some new cards. I've built this deck like six times and it always feels like I'm missing something to make him click. I keep ending up with a deck that's just objectively better with K'rrick in the command slot instead of the 99 but that's probably just mono-black in general.
>>96137875Least mentally ill proxier
>>96138375had yawg once but took him apart after one game because he combod too easy. what is your secret?
>>96137758 (OP)TQ
Trying to make it fun without the fallout mutants
>>96138415>what is your secret?I don't like infect and refuse to use it.
>>96138431how about all the undying creatures. won't people just hate him out just in the fear of those
>>96137944It would if it survived. If you don't have anything pumping it, Indo would die after the first grapeshot damage, before the second could trigger.
>>96137758 (OP)>tqI am terminally indecisive, so these are the decks I am currently brewing/building. Estinien and Squall are basically strict upgrades to decks I already have so they're not really new builds so to speak and the Jahiera deck is composed largely of cards I cut from other decks.
>>96138498rate my squall deck and what changes would you make
https://archidekt.com/decks/14596458/squaller
>>96138424This isnt a mutant tribal deck anon so that should be incredibly easy.
>>96137758 (OP)>TQJust finished Eggman, came out exactly how I wanted too.
>>96138510What do you mean why? Because that's what I find interesting and that's what I'm choosing to do
>>96137758 (OP)>TQDrafted zombies for my Innistrad draft I just did. Pulled G&G, and I didnโt have a Dimir deck so I decided to try and turn it into a commander deck. Then I just found out it was a precon, so I bought that to start me off
>>96137758 (OP)>TQI've had an aversion to damage multiplying effects but I have a newfound respect for them after trying to build this guy around pingers. I'm enamored by the idea of having 3 or 4 dudes who tap for 1 damage each suddenly dealing a total of 200 damage on one turn because they're getting multiplied by 6 and getting untapped 9 times by landfall
>>96138707Thats not an answer to the question why you effeminate faggot lmao
Got a timing/interaction question, since I'm working on a jank B2 list:
>Lotus Cobra
>Springheart Nantuko
>Any spell that puts 2+ lands in at once
Is it possible to stack the triggers for the mana generation and the Springheart Cloning to create mana from one land, create the copy, and have that cope see the second land? Or do I miss the timing between effects?
>>96138291>hatebearsThis game honestly has some fo the faggiest fucking jargon I've ever encountered. Just say something is a 2/2. You can say "tax effect" or something but "hatebear" sounds like some guys metal band that you and your band of dysgenic twinks go to watch and it sounds like absolute shit. MTG jargon is so retarded it's definitely done out of some bizarre elitism. No one else finds this useful. In fact it barely even means anything. You autists will split hairs between stax and tax shit. Then you'll call a whole bunch of creatures "hatebears" then argue if a 2/1 counts or not. Just say it's a 2 mana 2/2. Your slang is so fucking gay. I remember seeing an actual cute girl who wasn't fat for once playing MTG with one of her beta orbiters at the game shop, and hearing her actually talk in MTG jargon to a severe extent turned me off from her completely. She sounded like a brainwashed freak. So if it does that to a 6/10 girl imagine what it's doing to you ugly dysgenic fucks.
Stop .
>What commander are you building right now?
Brewing 3 decks atm.
Wandering Minstrel Gates/Landfall. Lower power, B2 (technically 3 since I have a Field of the Dead to spare for it)
Zellix+haunted One Mill. Deck I've been trying to brainstorm for a LONG time now, but I just never pull the trigger on it
Shorikai Stax. Hard control/combo list meant to win through one of like 8 infinites.
>>96138624It's coming along very well actually given how many sacrifice effects there are in those colors
>>96138853>Anon who doesn't understand how language works is triggered by jargonBack to your own autistic hole, anon.
I like doublers. I like doubling things. I like the table fearfully and quietly doing the math to themselves while I double things. I won't apologize.
>>96138826You order your triggers anon. And if its the same action (landfall) that triggers them they are all put onto the stack together for you to order. But any copies made will not see lands entered, as the lands had to have entered already for them to be made
>>96138853>closeted male cannot stop thinking about gay men so much that the word bear triggers his self hating homophobia
>>96138872Congrats you built what isnt mutant tribal without any mutants. Stunning work you low T fag
>>96138931That's all my deck wants to do.
Double-strike, Double-combat, Double-damage, Double-triggers...
I had WCloud with the Buster Sword, and two turns later he had the Embercleave, Lightning, Aurelia, Gisela...
Drawing 8 cards a turn, cheating as much as I wanted into play, no one was really prepared for how quickly that shit snowballed out of control.
Making an Epstein meme deck. Any recommendations?
>>96138075go full monke and add triple triad
>>96138492>Tap a land for white mana, in response to war's toll trigger I tap another land, in response I tap another land, in response I tap....
>>96139099Yes anon thats literally the purpose of the card and enshrined in its gatherer ruling. The purpose is to keep all their spending in a single phase of their turn.
>>96139087hey buddy you got the wrong door, reddit is down the block
>>96139148Dont make me put my ipa down
>>96138291most morph and related abilities suck
I stupidly bought this precon thinking it'd be fun but it's ass
https://moxfield.com/decks/pRHcBl3ISESO0OP5549CEw
no I didn't upgrade it and no you can't change my mind
>>96139055I thought you died
>>96139239This deck gave us printlifter ooze so its awesome
>sneak attack is not a game changer
what the hjuck?
How do you find good decklists? Don't tell me you all brew your own decks, no one believes you.
>>96139303On about turn 4-5 the game should be about over in bracket 2 anyway so cheating in an annihilator eldrazi is just fair game.
>>96139336>I'm bad at making decks>That means every other person that plays Magic is also bad at making decks
>>96139336Zoomers really were a mistake damn
>>96139336EDHrec is for pussies. I find cards I like, build around them, and use scryfall tagger exhaustively for synergies.
>>96139336put me in the screencap
>>96139336The closest I've done to stealing decks from the internet is going to the edhrec page if I have maybe 5 slots left in the deck and cant seem to find anything I like. The rest is just scryfall searches. Only takes a few hours too whats your problem anon
>>96139336I actually have Grok make my decks for me.
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>only 2 shitty cumulative upkeep commanders
>zero level up
>zero fading
>1 with vanishing
Man I just wanna build some niche, weird as fuck deck and there's no good options
>>96139480Sounds like you're asking the game to be creative for you. Use a relevant commander in the colors you want then make the deck you want. The commander is 1 out of 100 cards it does not make the deck
Behold! Level up commanders!
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3AProliferate+%28type%3Acreature+type%3Alegendary%29+%28game%3Apaper%29
>>96139336Something to consider is using scryfall, or AI.
for example.. this deck.
https://archidekt.com/decks/14596458/squaller
It revolves around getting permanents 3 or less on damage.
step 1# find reanimatation targets.
Generally the best value weenies.
search on scryfall for legal:commander id:orzhov mv<=3 is:permanent (is:etb OR fo=/sacrifice.*:/) -t:land
browse other decks for tech you haven't found yet
Step 3#hell yeah brother
Step 4#Power down deck due to whining
>>96137758 (OP)Is rendmaw any good? I know he's popular, but thats because he's a precon.
Winter, the 'face' commander of that deck seems a lot better. I like the idea of golgari group hug, but you have to run a lot of mediocre stuff just to summon birds. While everybody elses 5 mana commanders are drawing them a new hand + ramp + L + ratio.
>>96139522>(type:creature type:legendary)is:commander is right there.
>>96139580That is 4 taps vs typing all that out doe anon
>>96139595People don't type their searches out manually? I haven't used Advanced Search in years
>>96139336I brew all my own decks, I don't know what else to tell you. Sorry you're unable to think for yourself.
>TQTidus
>>96137502Listen..
shut up
>>96137541Okay so I'm genuinely interested in your opinion since you feel like you're pretty knowledgeable on the subject.
>Summons nonbo with himI can sorta get where you're coming from here, since him proliferating would just end them that much sooner and they'd significantly work better in Yuna for the counter-transfer thing. Ixion feels like the only decent one here since it adds the counters I care about, even if in a small way and makes for a decent target for Power Conduit and Scholar of New Horizons to remove lore counters for benefits
>cut every character except ShelindaI'm far too much of a fanboy of FFX to do this, but I am not opposed to cutting some of them that are worse than others, especially in the case of the summons
>Contagion ClaspI-is this bad? I've always figured a 2 drop that gives me a targeted -1/-1 counter and the option to proliferate was pretty reasonable (and I have a cool foil one from when it came out)
>More landsOKAY
I have the two other relevant Verges and can probably include one more of each basic if it's SO IMPORTANT that I actually draw lands so I can play the game!
Also I own an Aura Shards, should I put that in here?
>>96139480run both Gallowbraid and Morinfen and just swap which one is in the command zone and do some kind of lifegain/lifeloss deck since they give you cumulative life loss
>>96139568>you have to run a lot of mediocre stuff just to summon birdsArtifact Creatures aren't so bad, honestly. Same with the few relevant Artifact Lands, then there's Enchantment Creatures, and you can even run Whip of Erebos to give your birds lifelink and get another set of birds. You also get access to shit that hates your opponents creatures or rewards you when they die like Blood Seeker or Massacre Wurm/Culling Ritual, or (in a guy at my LGS' deck) you could run Pygmy Kavu and draw like 10 cards if there's some birds in play. Also iirc Tribal is a card type so Nameless Inversion.
>>96139677>run both Gallowbraid and Morinfen and just swap which one is in the command zone and do some kind of lifegain/lifeloss deck since they give you cumulative life lossI already have a Gollum lifelink deck with tons of lifegain/life loss effects. Wouldn't be anything new
>>96139697Fair enough, I figured if you were looking at them it'd be one of the only ways to take them. Time to build Skeleton Ship as a -1/-1 counter/Skeleton tribal deck with that new guy who revives creatures as Skeltals and proliferate memes
>>96139609You should use your brain anon i said taps not clicks. I am on a phone, for this particular search, that is quicker.
>>96139677Does the guy who plays rendmaw at your LGS ever do well? I imagine finishers are coat of arms or overrun effects like craterhoof. I guess the whole point of rendmaw is you look as nonthreatening as possible while your opponents kill each other. Then you sneak in for the win.
>>96139336i build from cards i already know of that i think are fun or synergize with the deck and then i usually just search scryfall to fill in the blanks from there
>>96139821I'd say he does okay, he doesn't pull it out too often but generally from my experience it can get pretty threatening pretty fast in terms of all the crows punching each other so life totals are consistently going down while his can stay reasonably high. I have seen him take out the whole table at once with Massacre Wurm though, that shit was based.
>>96139336I brew my own decks and I don't care if you believe me
>TQ
just "finished" a satoru deck that I'll probably only play for a few games before binning
this guy's probably next because my friend bought me a deck with his foil a long time ago and I kinda like him.
>>96138518I told you last time. Add a Skyclave Apparition and Robe of Stars.
>>96140011I don't know if you saw my response last time;
Skyclave is mana value 4 or less, grasp of fate hitting things like doubling season and titans are crucial. Also, I had someone remove grasp of fate while karmic justice was out, so that was fun.
Robe of stars, I bought 2 edge collector boxes, so I'm going to see if I pull one before buying it.
>>96139728Same difference, dipshit. And typing would still be faster. I use my phone to search scryfall often enough to know this
>>96140068>>96139728using oracle tags, meta tags, grouped conditionals and regex are superior.
legal:commander id:orzhov mv<=3 is:permanent (is:etb OR fo=/sacrifice.*:/) -t:land
>>96139336I use scryfall. When I was getting into EDH, I used edhrec, but after a while I figured out the obvious that the site is merely an ouroboros. It's still sometimes worth it to check because it's possible to miss the same effect with slightly different wording,
>>96140083Yeah honestly regex is black fucking magic to me. For that search I'd just do
>f:c commander:wb mv<=3 o:sacrifice is:permanent -t:landAnd just filter through everything
> 4-way Ux control mirror
> pic related resolves
> Everyone has acces to evasion, so they think they are in the best position to abuse it
> Match devolves in a crabs in a bucket style slugfest, because even a single 1/1 token is lethal
> No one allowed to gain even an inch
Love how these janky bulkrares can still manage to steal the sporlight of the game. You could say, it managed to "changed the game"
>>96140095run my search vs yours, look at the kind of cards you get for blanket searching oracle text with sacrifice. Mine is specifically looking for an activated ability, with sacrifice preceding the colons.
AI is actually fantastic at regex, so you can use that as well.
>>96140129> 4-way Ux control mirrorThis sounds like absolute aids
>>96139992cared enough to reply ^.^
>>96140216Yeah, the "may" is very bitchmade.
>>96140230Yeah I get it
Iโll remove it for the flavor of โThe titans gave you their power and now they will own you until youโre nothingโ
>>96139336https://archidekt.com/decks/11313992/boros_spirit_slinger
Look at this and tell me a good deck builder came up with it
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Is Phyrexian arena ever worth running? I ask because losing a life a turn adds up, and since black isnt known for life gain it could rapidly put you at a life disadvantage? Or am I missing something?
>>96140321>black isnt known for life gain
>>96140216>you MAY get rid of this broken fucking enchantment, if you wantWhy the fuck would you ever????
>>96140321>Is one of the longest lasting black draw staples any good?>Oh lordy, 1 life a turn
>>96140333>>black isnt known for life gainThen how did white become associated with lifegain?
>>96140321Pay life to draw cards is one of black's core identities. For like... 30+ years or something.
>losing a life a turn adds upI'm not trying to be mean, but this is proof you are either really bad at the game, or just started playing last week.
>>96140321Arena used to be a staple EDH card, now a days there are usually better versions of it. Unholy annex drains you more, but if you control a demon it drains your opponent instead. Plus even makes a demon when needed. Black market connections is also very strong, again draining you more but also ramps and makes tokens.
>>96140216unrelated but I must thank you for opening my eyes. your post made me think how there is no point in engaging with posts that I don't like because there is always someone who doesn't like something so everything would just get hated on eventually. this is the last time I'll be replying to a post I don't like, be it off-topic, stupid, bait or whatever. you can continue wallowing in filth, there is really no point trying to fix this place. I should just reply to posts I like. I know it sounds obvious now but I just loved this game and place too much to let go.
but hey, maybe my in universe posts about official cards or lore get just as much hate from someone else who just wants to talk about non-magic things like spiderman movies or custom cards in a general not for those things. they just have to deal with me too so it fair. we might look like we are shiting the thread from each other's perspective by talking about things the other doesn't like but at the end of the day, we both get our own discussion going. without hate and without getting ignored by the ones that actually care be it magic or not. cheers, anon
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Whats some fun stuff to stick in here? I was thinkin Sire of Insanity
>>96140346I mean, obviously. he doesn't even know black is the second most prominent color in lifegain
>>96137758 (OP)>teaching my buddy how to play with my tifa deck>get to a point late game where he has genji glove and awaken the woods>goes to pop off and makes tifa a 16000>goes to kill our buddy playing kaalia and he uses teferis protection >before he kills the me and the other guy i swords his tifa to make the kaalia player suffer2am drunk commander is really fun
>>96140321If your meta is slow enough, it might be worth running, but otherwise simple draw spells could be much better.
>>96140345Both can be associated with a mechanic. Like with exiling creatures.
>>96140345White is the best lifegain color, but black is second best due to all the drain effects. There is a reason aristocrat decks are B/W.
>>96140386>Life gain occurs most prominently, and in all card types, in white.[2] Green is number two in life gain. Green's life gain is mostly either through sorceries (with the occasional instant) and creatures. Life gain in black is restricted to Drain Life-types of spells.Sure.
>>96140392>to make the kaalia player sufferAye, you're a good lad.
>>96140370>posted a custom card asking for critique>ended up mindbreaking a seething brownoidGeg, nice
>>96140400there are under 10 lifelinking creatures in mono green while black has over a hundred so I'll keep my definition rather than parrot some outdated wiki written by whoever doesn't know shit, thanks
>>96140321Zoomers were a mistake
>>96140400Green has more "gain life" text on cards, but black will out pace it in a real game. While also killing you in the process.
>>96140400Pretty out of date. Green hasn't had lifegain as a major strategy for like a decade. Closest it comes now is mass producing Food.
>join cedh room on mtgo
>bring wort
>two of the other players immediately rage at me picking wort
>they rq the game before t1
>>96140429>Swagtusk put a stop to green lifegainHuh.
You may not like to hear this but white is primary in life gain, green is secondary and black is tertiary. With that said, there are still a large amount of life gain cards in black , however a life gain strategy has always been Selesnya or mono white. Orzhov is tertiary
>>96140407to be fair, its my kaalia deck
i built the deck to try and 1v3 but its a little hard to push through 16k life
but he didnt grab me booze when he got up to get drinks and he tried to master of cruelties me so i was doing spite plays
I don't care. anon is still stupid for thinking black isn't known for gaining life to mitigate a fucking phyrexian arena
>>96140489True he definitely is
>>96139336I find Commanders I like, then use scryfall and my memory and collection to build it, then at the end I check edhrec to see if there's any tech I missed.
Properly built decks only have about 20-35 free slots to build around after you put in the proper amount of interaction/ramp/lands and there's less than 2500 useable cards in this game. It's not that hard anon.
>>96140516>pay 80 dollars to counter arena's effect
>>96140524>moving goalposts
>>96140536There's are much cheaper ways than sheolred
>>96140538I was just about to post this
>>96140540>There's are much cheaperirrelevant
>>96140544No really, its very relevant if you are so new./bad you need to ask if arena is good,
>Oh hazel looks cool, and she even has a precon...
>It's $90 for the just the precon
So is this commander really that strong, or is something else going on here?
>>96140608How good is she? I try to avoid making commanders that just get you killed on sight.
>>96140593>No longer in print >Had skullclamp and saw in half of itI also saw it for 75 on amazon
>>96140593I think this is the precon that got a card that make Survival of the Fittest a one card combo with Devoted Druid.
>>96140321No. It's too slow and a terrible mid-late game top deck. Immediate draw cards are way better
>>96140593convenience tax. buying the singles is cheaper
>>96140634We did it boys, we broke devoted druid.
>>96140624if you are not comboing it's pretty meh since you have to tap the tokens for mana so you can't hoof them so I'll say she'd be pretty safe from my removal if I saw her
>>96140663The deck in singles is 84 dollars, with shipping you aren't saving anything
>>96140692postage? in my first world country?
>>96140593>good cards worth a bit>extremely popular meme tribe >nearly a year oldWonder why it's so much
>>96139336Go to my lgs. Buy interesting singles. Build around them
As shrimple as that
how does this look for a quick zidane list
https://moxfield.com/decks/JqpzyI7PwUSPc-DOBTlsdg
i just wanted to make something fun and be kind of annoying but weaker then my usual decks
Rekyle, Eldrazi Knight
2WB
2/4
Defender, lifelink, double strike
If an ability of a permanent you control would trigger due to entering the battlefield, it instead triggers when you gain life.
Attacking and dealing damage cannot cause abilities to trigger.
How long until WOTC acknowledges that 4-5+ mana cards that don't have immediate potentially game ending effects are effectively worthless?
>>96140930They're starting to slap "when this card enters or attacks" on everything these days. So I think they're aware of it.
>>96140930But they're not worthless
I wonder if anyone has tracked how many cards of each colour have been printed, because I swear there are straight up less black cards than any other colour
>>96138424there's only one or two fallout mutants worth playing
When this enters or attacks, draw a card.
Whenever you draw a card, each opponent discards a card.
Whenever an opponent discards a card, gain 2 life.
Pay 10 life: Draw a card.
>another episode of you attack someone early with a dinky 1/1 or 2/2 so youre now their personal arch enemy for the rest of the night
Getting tired of reruns
>>96141082Stop playing red
>>96141041>4,636 cards where the color identity is W>4,554 cards where the color identity is U>4,620 cards where the color identity is B>4,596 cards where the color identity is R>4,501 cards where the color identity is GIt's extremely easy to figure this out.
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>>96141041White and black are the two most common colors because despite WotC's claims they're not morality indicators, they are absolutely used that way.
>>96141068Which ones do you think?
>>96141041It's more so black cards are either really strong or really trash, with very little in between.
>>96141082>I attack you for 1 just to get a trigger and make a treasure token because I missed a land drop>Okay, on my turn I make you mill half your library for attacking me.Or my favorite
>I full swing at you every turn, I focus all of my removal at you for no reason other than you won the last game
>>96141186You can literally say this about any color
>>96141191Woah you get to win the previous game? I watch people at my LGS choose archenemy from commander color identity.
It's legitimately at the point I can play an intentionally toxic Abzan deck, have Burgeoning out on turn 1, be poised to make everyone discard 5 cards next turn, and I'll still watch someone full swing at River Song who has nothing on board and 2 cards in their hand, because it's an Izzet commander and they think the RS player is going to combo off next turn.
I honestly don't even know what the River Song deck does despite playing against it 4 times now because some idiot hard focuses it every game then loses because of that.
>>96141041>B got an entire set dedicated to it, something no other color can claim (Judgment was WG)>Bfags still feign persecution Sorry dog, you don't got what it takes to unseat whiteschizo
>>96141217Green and white have plenty of average tier cards. If somebody is casting a black creature its either doing nothing or needs to die. I don't feel the same with other colors unless its turn 7+.
>>96141158Broadly they're not; but co-correlation is a bitch.
Imagine that, the color about unity and order and social cohesion is more likely to be a harmonious and ethical society than the color about sacrifices, power at all costs, upending the natural order and selfish pursuits.
Beyond that, black is the color of devils, demons, the undead and the unholy; while white is the color of angels. It doesn't make all angels good guys, but if there is a list of good black outsiders it's a short list.
>>96141230I made a fair Jon Irenicus deck that just handed unblockable creatures to my opponents and they always made the dumbest choices, sometimes using removal on my creatures so they weren't forced to attack my opponents.
>>96141271Yes and this ties back into how WotC has defined their "personality" slices of the color pie in a way that is very frequently applied in a way they're used as morality indicators.
>Define color to be about being an asshole>All your villains are assholes>Insist that it's not a villain color because you made the praetorsContrast
>Define color to be about having friends>Good guys have friends>Insist it's not the good guy color because you made Jace and Urza asshole protagonists
White is the color of good. Revisionists can fuck off.
>build a commander that sounds fun or interesting
>it's either unplayable jank or sweaty try hard shit
>build a retarded meme commander that should have no chance of ever winning
>it's the most fun deck ever and it wins more games than your jank or tryhard shit
I only get what I want when I don't desire it
>>96141334The problem is not that white is the good color, but that what we broadly term as good fits in white. It's almost impossible to write black as heroic, so they generally have to be antiheroes or villain protagonist roles.
Inversely, it's not hard to write white into being evil, because the attributes that map to white can be dialed up to an oppressive and vile degree no problem.
Also, Jace is Blue and Urza has never been mono-white.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96141082I attacked a guys Darreti the other night for 2 (didn't even kill it btw) and his response was to basically blow all his removal on my stuff for the rest of the game even blowing up my signet when there was a basalt monolith on the field
>>96141358Meme commanders work because they look nonthreatening like jank, but actually have the potential to do something if left alone.
>>96141401That's literally my point. WotC labels it as not a villain color despite all its traits being very traditionally associated with villainy which is also how we get the meme of every villain being grixis even if they're UB (not the colors). Meanwhile contrast how white's traits only become evil in a very specific context because the default for unity is generally considered to be a good thing.
>Jace/Urza are blueThat's the point I was making. WotC points to them as the main example of white not being the hero color even though they were both stubborn assholes that refused to EVER use their words because if they did half the story's problems would have been instantly resolved.
>Oh yeah btw Karn is a superweapon powered by my laser eyes you can use that to kill Yawgmoth. I'm glad I told you this at the start!
>>96137758 (OP)Speaking on sonic cards, there is no reality where knuckles is good, right?
>>96137758 (OP)Just bought the rest of my eggman deck
>>96141579He's very good. Just probably not as a commander
Can I only warp as a sorcery?
>reddit and other places say an eco tank is the best printer for proxies and great quality
>The quality.
Man I fucked up. Using cheap card stock probably didn't help but this was a bust
>>96141579He's good in the reality where Ken Penders is still writing him
>>96141486But my point is that it's backwards: The point WOTC is making it that it is not NECESSARILY the color of bad guys.
Grixis is just cursed so far as color combinations go because it combines all the colors needed for a saturday morning cartoon villain even if not all Grixis things should be that. Black for ambition and dark dealings, blue for scheming and secrets, red for destruction and aggression: while underlings and monsters can healthily be rakdos, the principle antagonist is far too easy to complete by just adding blue.
>>96141623I would assume you can warp creatures with flash
>>96141631threedogpilled?
>>96140930Post your cliffs
>>96140930Post your cliffs
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If you've reached the point where you want grey and gray morality in every fantasy setting and you don't like the idea of objectively good or evil groups and philosophies it's time to grow up and seek out other media to placate that desire instead of forcing your maladjusted-adult beliefs into what was supposed to be a simple fantasy setting aimed predominantly at children and teenagers. Too many nerds need to consoom some therapy instead of more nerd media, and too many nerds have long overstayed their welcome in nerd spheres when they've clearly outgrown them or become too depressed to interact with it in a healthy way.
The color pie would be a lot better if everyone could have juster accepted that White is good, Black is evil, and any exceptions to the rule were supposed to be Orzhov colored, instead of all this faggy muh extremism shit that's been forced in.
>>96141648Do not speak his name
>>96141682Yes, I'm printing out proxies for copies
>>96141631I just used kinkos. They are .07 a sheet. Did I fuck up?
>go to collectible/mtg shop
>sifting through 10 cent bin
>4 copy of crystal vein (7th)
I notified him he shrugged and gave them to me for 40 cents. Nothing wild but he could've easily charged 30 CAD for the set and it would've been a good price
>>96141799based, my best pull so far is tortured existence
>>961417996th* I cant read Greek numbers apparently
Why is everyone building Zidane?
>>96141790There's no kinkos around here, there are print shops buy they aren't 7 cents a sheet
>>96141631Looks good were you expecting it to look like it was professionally done?
>>96141631What do you mean, the quality of that is fine for proxies.
It would appear you've forgotten to mark them as such, but they're fine to play.
>>96138853This man is homosexual (in the bad way)
>>96141806A handy tip, 7th specifically does not use roman numerals.
>>96141594pic related my commanders, here are a few examples
unplayable jank
>Gandalf the White>Theoden>Liberty Prime>Jeff Goldblum>Runo Stromkirksweaty try hard shit
>Hapatra>Wilhelt>ETB burn Purphorosretarded meme commanders that are fun
>Rocco Street Chef with just food-producing spells and no impulse draw interactions>Rilsa Rael copy+initiative>Kardur theft>Orah cleric tribal
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>>96141631Better than me today
>>96141631It is the best printer for printing proxies as you can print like 20 full commander decks worth of proxies before you're close to running out of ink.
If you wanted to make counterfeits or proxies to sell, you need a photo printer minimum, and an industrial printer max to do that.
>>96141880reminds me when I first started to print proxies and printed a deck at 25% size as a joke and brought it to my friend's game night
>my cards aren't small, they look that way to you because I'm so big
Why is heroic intervention $10? Do they just not reprint it enough?
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Gauntleoof of Might or Gauntler of Power
>>96141908 you gave me a coughing fit, that's great
I'll reprint them if the deck actually works at game night and/or start looking for the cheaper cards in bargain bins
>>96141933Pretty much, yeah.
>>96141945Continuous Arrifact, perfect for my Pirate tribal deck.
>>96141899It was kinda the hope, just to do a fun project for pocket change. I guess I didn't do enough research. I'll still enjoy using my own trash proxies either way.
>Realize that I just automatically shove this card into every green deck I build
It's not even that good I just unconsciously add it to everything, any cards like this for you guys?
>>96142160eat shit and die, got exactly what you deserve slopsucker
>>96142201prophetic prism in every deck
>>96142201titanic, because it's the ultimate meme card
curse of opulence
howling mine in all mono red decks
>>96142204>>96142235Yes, yes, they look bad, are made of bad.
>>96141933>staple card that's good for literally any green deck Idk
>>96142258Dark Paws 1W
Creature - Fox Warlock
2/2
Whenever you cast an enchantment, you may pay {W}, {R}, {U}, {B}, or {G}. If you do, search your library for a curse with mana value less than or equal to that enchantment's mana value and put it into play attached to any player.
>>96142279>Dark paws>It's white>5 color slopNo. I want light paws but edgier and mono black.
>>96141899>>96142160As an outsider jumping in here, is the take away to just pay chinks pennies to print proxies for you instead? I am not giving WOTC $200 for some alternate art of a card because they decided it should be artificially scarce.
>>96142160>It was kinda the hope, just to do a fun project for pocket changeyou must be retarded, there is no way someone with average intelligence buys a fucking consumer-grade inkjet printer and thinks he can emulate card stock pressed in an industrial printer
>reddit saidAHAHAHAHA
a fucking inkjet, unbelievable
>>96142307curses need every color to even think about being viable
>>96142436Industrial printer, no, better than the actual result, yes.
>>96141933>best green instant protection with no equivalentBe thankful it's only $10
Fuck You In Particular 1WW
Instant
Split Second
Will of the Council - Each player votes for a player. The player with the most votes exiles all non-land permanents he or she controls.
End the turn.
>>96142563>Didn't include the "or tied for most" clause>Doesn't know my Tivit clone deck will f him in the a>Doesn't know I'm behind him right now.
>>96140450Is she still considered that bad to warrant two immediate rage quits?
>>96142563Fuck Me Fuck You 0
Instant
This spell can interrupt Split Second spells but this spell cannot be interrupted by anything.
If an opponent's spell would cause you to exile all non-land permanents, they exile all their non-land permanents instead.
>>96142599Just Fuck Already RUB
Enchantment
Flash
Exile two target players to the other room until this permanent leaves play.
>>96142539Wrap in vigor is pretty close. Most boardwipes dont have regenerate clauses these days and exile wipes or -x/-x wipes would get both anyways
>>96141579Professional Facebreaker in the command zone and it's got double strike, haste, and trample? How is that not going to be good? The only issue is that the last line of his text really didn't need to be there. Because of it this card will probably be targeted down thrice as hard as it would have otherwise. A bit like Mechanized Production.
I have this as a proxy, and I'm adding it to my squall deck for memes and because I have LOTS of wheel players. If I understand this correctly.
>IF you wheel of fortune, windfall etc.
You have 0 cards in hand after discard, you can't draw. Mill instead.
>>96142646Excellent. It is done until I potentially pull a star robe from edge
>>96142160If you ever get decent printer the composition and art is about on par with the slop that sells on etsy
>>96142612We're Making You The Woman Tonight UG
Instant
If you and another player are forced to leave the room, you and that player choose a third player to join you.
>>96142706Gachimuchi crossover set when
>>96142614No hexproof, creatures only. Heroic Intervention is cheap enough you can dump it to protect an important piece from getting rekt or exiled.
>>96139336edhrec+looking at deck lists+searching scryfall tagger
>>96142720I'd be happy with a secret lair. Like Deflecting Blow.
>someone plays time sifter after I teferi's protection
>mfw permanent vacation
LET ME BACK IN!!!
>>96142782Tpro fags get the rope
>>96142817I've been running this in one of my decks for that mythical moment, 15 games now, still hasn't happened
>>96142817>>96142840You lack imaginative will.
You force your opponents to teferi's with hivemind. Now no one has fun.
>>96142817this but blink fags
>>96142782I don't understand the interaction here. Your library is still in play, yeah? So if you win the clash you get the extra turn, and then everything phases back in?
>>96142886I never won the clash. Simple as that. My deck is much lower to the ground and the time sifter user was big mana.
>>96142875I thought this would fuck my abdel deck like elesh norn does but I actually don't have many creatures.
>>96142897>>96142886that's what I was assuming, but he didn't make it clear
also what
>>96142803said
>>96142703Don't encourage xir
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My friend hit an opponent today with reigns of power + sakashima's will turning all of his creatures into copies of his commander for a weird but cool semi-boardwipe
>>96140450I gave up on cEDH on MTGO because people take too long to take their turns. I only play Duel Commander now.
>>96143001NTA but how is it for casual? I am tempted to actually get on MTGO because I hate putting pants on any given day.
>>96143040>5500 deckstotally unused commander
>>96143000Commanders for this feel?
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>>96143062any partner commander with falthis
Any mono white deck ideas for fun maybe some jank combos or stupid memes for the bit?
>>96140593>perfect precon for friend who loves bloomburrow aesthetics>mfw didn't get it during pre-order for affordable price as gift and checking current price
>>96143027>NTA but how is it for casual?hard for me to tell you, the last time I played casual on MTGO was like 3 or 4 years ago, I would enter budget rooms with meme commanders, it was actually a good time but like I said its been years at this point, the only thing I can say for sure is that you won't have trouble finding games, the casual lobby is very active
>>96140593I should've sold mine when stonks were high
>>96143095Now imagine if you had the Japanese version everyone wanted
Is scryfall being completely awful for anyone else lately? The front page works fine, but searching for cards or clicking on them in search results takes 30+ seconds, at minimum, to load
>>96143147uwo japanese anime squirrel!!
>>96143077You should always preorder precons before the list drops. If you must wait then get comfortable with paying 50-100% more.
>>96143077It's kinda fucked but honestly you need to preorder and only cancel if the list is unmitigated garbage.
I got fucked on that for the FF precons. I would have gone for the stupid collectors version if they didn't explode in price before they even announced any cards.
>>96143077Why are you friends with furries
>>96143227why are you friends with fat guys with beards?
Is upgrading the Cloud precon with Sonic cards too cringe?
>>96143230I'm not, they're all thin dudes with bears
>>96143235>with bearsso they're all gay?
>>96143232I met my chubby goth gf playing the sarcastic spongebob counterspell, just have fun
>>96140321> on upkeepwhich means it is automatically a "mid" card because it doesn't etb or do anything on its own the moment you cast it, think of it being a tax of 3 mana.
but is drawing cards good in a card game ? it is.
>>96143058But the contention was that it would be so broken it would need to be banned and 36 of those 5500 decks use Uba Mask
>>96143295>card because it doesn't etb or do anything on its own the moment you cast itI suppose rhystic study and Smothering are mid too
>>96143359>does thing once per turn>doesn't do anything when cast/played>requires you to wait an entire turn cycle for a single draw>vs some of the best cards in the game with none of these downsides
>>96143398>changing goal postsSo, something can good be good without not ETBing. Maybe no make such a retarded qualifier in the first place next time.
>>96143418Are you retarded? On ETB Rhystic and Smothering immediately put an immense amount of pressure on gameplay for your opponents. You're stupid.
Did we make the right evaluation here?
>opponent playing Miirym, opponent 2 and I are the only ones left
>Miirym has expected Miirym stuff out (2x Lathliss and some 5/5 tokens, 2x broodcaller scourge, etc., Miirym was removed the previous turn)
>Miirym player casts selvala's stampede, votes wild
>the Miirym player has three cards in hand and did not play a land this turn
>me and the other player both say we should vote wild and hope for a support creature that doesn't matter at this stage of the game
>stampede puts a stormscale dragon and two cost reducers onto the battlefield
>Miirym player reveals two mana rocks and a dragonlord's servant
The similar result nonwithstanding, did this seem like the right choice, or should we have been able to tell from something that picking free would have been better?
This seems like a minor instance but I want to get better at reading these things.
>play smothering tithe
>generate 10 treasures before your next turn
I mean just quite drawing cards
>>96143421There is on ETB effect on those cards, sorry.
You set the retarded standard that cards that do nothing on ETB are mid, not me.
Once again, don't make such retarded statements in the future.
>>96143232Who cares? Aesthetically this game stopped being cool when Furryodin and Kamigacha dropped. Just play what you want to play and if it triggers some purist just laugh and remind them Magic hasn't had style worth caring about for 20+ years now.
>>96143502>intentionally not understanding the gameWhen Rhystic Study enters the battlefield, it applies a very interesting effect to every spell cast by up to 3 other players that says "pay 1 extra or let me draw"
this, compared to "when we finally get back to my turn, I get to draw 1"
You do not understand magic.
>>96143415>why draw a card on each and every further turn when I can play them when I can tap out to draw 2 T2/3 or draw into something I can't cast because I blew 3 mana hitting everyone for 2?
>>96143522PLAY what you wanna PLAY
And let the cards fall out
PLAY what you wanna PLAY
I Wanna PLAY IT
>>96143522OG Mirrodin and kamigawa were peak aesthetic you absolute moron
>>96143527>Card does nothing on ETB>Name another card that does nothing one ETB>They're different, because, because they just are!Don't make retarded statements in the future. Once again, you made the claim, not me, and now your shifting goalposts because you can just admit your statement was retarded on the face of it.
>>96143569You can keep repeating the same nonsense and not understand the game if you want, but I refuse to believe you aren't just being a bad actor.
>>96143040>Ha ha! Now your hand size is zero!>Uba Mask is preventing anyone from drawing anyway
>>96143583No, no, I fully understand why Rhystic is better, but it does nothing on ETB, so it's mid.
Which was your claim.
Stop trying to walk it back and just admit that's a retarded thing to say. You won't. Because you are a retard.
>>96143295It's not even mid, it's a borderline trap card at this point. A 3 mana do nothing that takes 4 - FOUR - QUATTRO - turns give you better card advantage than Nights Whisper or Sign In Blood. Most 3-4 mana black instant /sorcery draw has far better returns when you account for time: for the exact same price you can fix your draws and put two cards in hand right then and now with Read the Bones. Arena's strictly better upgrade, Black market connections, barely reaches mid.
Unless it's in your opening hand or drawn in the first 2 turns you will always hate top decking PA. It never ever helps you when you need it.
>>96143562No they weren't you just have really really shitty taste. Don't (You) me again.
>>96143603>he's responding to himself to walk back what he said instead of just saying "i'm wrong" Classic. I have 31 reasons why this won't work.
I play arena on turn 4, heh the game ends before I get to see more card draw than sign in blood :^)
>>96143592Do you think that maybe the original statement of "it doesn't etb or do anything on its own the moment you cast it" might have been sarcastic?
>>96143624not that anon you're sperging out about, leave me out of whatever retarded argument you're having
>>96143592Did you consider that "on etb" doesn't mean it needs a trigger? Rhystic objectively changes the game the moment it "etb"s, anon. I know this is hard to grasp, but the instant that it resolves, it has an effect on the entire game. There are other effects than generic valueslop that says "when this enters" on it.
>>96143643rhystic does do something on etb, it makes every opponent's card cost 1 more or you draw a card
>>96143643Even if they immediately remove it, it will still draw a card. Only way it won't is if they have an activated ability out already. In which case, why the fuck did you play the rhystic into it?
>>96138330>Mayhem Devil>Goblin Sharpshooter >Last Laugh>PyrohemiaAll good for enraging, but good luck keeping Indo alive to actually use them. I have 12 protection spells, and it's not enough. I'm new at this, and I'm never building a deck that completely depends on the commander again.
>>96143661Also didn't mean to reply to that guy
>>96141623Warp is an alternative cost not an activated ability. You can warp any time you would be able to cast the card normally.
>>96143668>card that only sees play in cedh and only in greenso, like i said?
We are lean and mean over here
>>96143679Based (or cringe if cheerios)
>>96141623>People are still trying to hype this dogshit timmy trap commander
>>96143676I'm surprised there's not more effects like this.
>>96143522what if I trigger myself
can I hate myself, or will my opponent's tell me hating myself is not an acceptable strategy and that I should be more considerate of their time
>>96143685Why do we hate cheerios?
>>96143692I think you need more self love anon. You're a very handsome fella with very cool decks :)
>>96143695/edh/ is pro-artifact sloppa so there is no "we", only me. I just don't like over supported and pushed archetypes and artifacts are arguably the most pushed deck type of all, given how much support it seems to get every single set
>>96143679>AVG mana is 1.09>total value is 33 (36 with Commander)Go fast, brudda
>>96143709I don't see how you'd run Shao Jun without artifacts.
>>96143730You couldn't, my point is that you have so much options when it comes to artifacts because it's such a pushed card type.
>>96143709>artifact sloppathis is on the same level as saying "sorcery sloppa" or "enchantment sloppa" or even "creature sloppa"
you are retarded, every card type deserves support
Do you build him go wide or just voltron with incremental draw?
>>96143767He called it slop, so he's right by default
i still wanna build a spellslinger deck since i still have never played one
i want to build vivi because i really like vivi but i feel like id only get to play him once a year or some shit considering hes like apocalypse level kill on site and i dont think it would be possible to make a shit build with him
some of the narsets sounded fun but i wanna play hardcore spellslinger
I've been on/off casual Commander for a while with some old precons.
Bought a couple recently that I'm thinking of pulling apart the old ones to enhance... but wondering what I do with the leftovers.
Never really had the issue of wanting to swap cards between decks before but I'm kinda wondering how to seperate my bulk out from my actually valuable cards.
Anyone have any suggestions?
>>96143786Instantslop, sorceryslop
>>96143773He looks a lot like Syr Gywn and the best thing to do in that deck was just to ignore your other creatures and strap everything to the commander.
>>96143786Zethi Kuja Waltz are fun and fair. Vivi is cancerous, if your pod isn't dog piling you once he's out they don't know what they're doing and you'll win but you probably won't have had fun doing so.
Hating the word slop is, ironically, a slop way of thinking.
>>96143747>wotc supports a card type people generally like and has multiple ways to enjoyfuck dude..... its over
>>96143773I feel like wide is the right call. You crash out with him and a bunch of job selects and other equipment matters, then grab a handful ramp up to with your treasures each turn until the table is dead.
>>96143799Nah, Gwyn can go off like that from free equip costs, You're only going to get one thing stapled to Cloud before you have to start actually paying for them, in which case you're probably gonna just wanna swing out instead.
Deck would love some vigilance granters to keep blockers open though.
>>96143800yeah i know vivi is basically cast commander and win, which is why im reserved about him, maybe il build him later as a cedh deck
kuja and waltz kinda feel the same but im curious how the builds actually differ
zethi is someone i like on paper but azorius spellslinger just sounds weird since im not shooting fireballs at people
>>96143818Kuja is worse because he's slower, but he gives you tokens and supports wizards as a type. Waltz is a rakdos cedh commander where you just Breach and Lotus Petal Grinding Station and just win
Is there a way to make Vivi fun?
Got a friend who's only just barely getting into Magic and he pulled Vivi the other day after buying a couple packs to start off on.
He's pretty excited about it and wants to make a deck around him, but I'm apprehensive about what advice to give him.
It'd be cool if there's a low-level budget version of him that they could make that he could play without all guns aiming at his head.
>>96143998izzet nondeterministic storm, like veyran and whoever else in the power tiers below that.
>>96143786this monk FUCKS
>>96143998Maybe build it to ramp out big spells without the cantrips that enable storm turns. If he's casting one or two spells that tap him out it might be less threatening.
Only other option I can think of is making the entire 99 on a strict budget, something like $15.
Either way he's going to have to prove himself before people will trust that "it's not that kind of Vivi deck."
>>96143603>Arena is worse than read the bonesWow
I'm actually speechless
>>96144014This is a bad card
>>96144004>>96144021Thanks, I'll look into it.
I know the guy and he's definitely not looking to just powergame a deck. He enjoys interaction and back and forth from the few games he's played.
He's just kinda excited that he pulled the set's big Mythic and wants to play with it.
I might push him to make Tellah or something and have Vivi in the 99 to start with.
I was worried that my decks might be a little too mean for my friends since there still new to the game and yesterday one of them tried to do an infinite and I felt less bad
I'm glad my friends being evil in other card games is carrying over
>>96144014I wish lyse would fuck me
>>96144067she will if your opponent untaps
>>96144032>sexy>appropriately costed cost reduction>sexy>prowess is fun>sexy>good keyword for no real effort>sexyYoure wrong.
>>96144116no one cares if the card is sexy, coomer
>>96144014So like, do you run her as a commander or what?
Anyone else building this simple elegant design?
where do people get these superfake magic cards? someone showed me a fake thassa's oracle card that passed the light and green dot test but the holo sticker was off
Am I missing something, or is this really good with other gear? Why haven't I seen it in more decks?
>>96142201I accept he's really fucking bad but his art is so cool that I can't help myself
>>96144148Its just not particularly good. Three mana to cast and three more to equip is really expensive when you could just run whispersilk cloak or something and just make your dude straight up unblockable
>>96144183I guess I'm thinking of it more in an equipment deck with Odric Master Tactician to just fuck on supporting creatures as you're deleting a minion
The end stone should have just halved your life each turn rounded up so you just die after a couple of turns. Also should have been black.
>>96144148This card is fucking busted.
>>96144148Most decks that might want it can get evasion for less mana. It's good with voltron commanders that force blocks, which is pretty narrow.
>>96144123yes and then you cast cantrips/artifacts and win
>>96144183Put it on glissa and force blocks.
>>96144306The artifact does the damage, not the equipped creature so deathtouch or lifelink don't work
>>96144371Bam! And she can get it back
>>96144385brb using this on Sokrates
>>96144148There's not much of an incentive for your opponents to block the creature it's attached to unless they want all their shit to get bolted, and the artifact doing the damage rather than the creature limits the degeneracy you can do with it.
The real strength of it would be flashing it in with sigarda's aid after your opponent has already declared blocks, or creatures that have to be blocked like the others said.
>You need 38-40 lands
Ok
>and 10 pieces of removal
Ok
>and 10 rocks
Ok
>And at least 4 board wipes
Ok
Now I have no room for anything fitting my decks strategy
>>96144466Sounds like you have 30ish cards worth of room
>>96144466>Make deck without lands>wtf why is my deck not doing anything every card is part of the strategy!
>>9614448536 lands is acceptable unless you are big mana
>>96137758 (OP)I got my ass handed to me by Vincent Valentine in Draft, thinking of building him and just putting every Fleshbag Marauder in.
>>96137758 (OP)No one even notices the bolas porn in the OP
>>96141191>I'm attacking you and try to kill you first because I think it's funnyThis is my group and the guy being attacked is mostly me but it's with y group of friends for 15 years so it's all good. Taking this shit seriously is stupid.
>>96142201It's actually underrated.
>>96142201How many turns in eternity?
>>96143040iirc it was one person that thought it would get banned and a whole bunch of people telling him he was retarded
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/93809046/#q93815301
>>96144747>I'm one of the resident stax expert>The last card of comparable strength was Leovold
>>96144747>Nadu isn't a popular commanderWay more retarded to post that. What a thread.
>>96143147>gf insists i need a more casual deck>she buys me Bumbleflower precon>end up actually enjoying it>start upgrading deck>start pimping deck>raised foil is 600 dollars
>>96143040>lets me draw cards for a slight inconvenience>at the player upkeep so he gets to use the ressources first, unlike most other group hug garbagethis is a cool commander, would love to play against this. too bad my braindead pod would remove it no questions asked
>>96143077>recently got into 40k>kinda want the Tyranid Swarm now, as its the only one not present in our pod>mfw when price checking>its also only 3rd place on the scalp scale
>>96145058The thread has some absolute retards in it yeah, but more people calling them out
>>96144522>still one shots most modern value creatures that this design mistake has caused them to have bloated stats its also fucking cool and a classic move
I want to create a Voltron deck with Arjun the Shifting Flame. I know he's not optimal for it and there are much more viable commanders but I just like his effect.
The idea is I sift through the deck and find equipments/enchantments which are answers to threats on the board.
Any suggestions for cards I can include?
>>96145350>6 mana voltron commanderPrepare to lose before you do anything. A good voltron commander should be 4 or less mana.
>>96145350So, like the other anon said, it's unlikely you'll be able to effect the game much, due to how much your commander costs manawise but if you REALLY want to build him, I would recommend as much ramp and rituals you can stuff in there. You NEED to get your commander out ASAP in a voltron deck and having to pay 6 for first cast is an uphill battle. My second suggestion is to use auras, not equipment. While equipment has the twin upsides of being mostly colorless and sticking around after your creatures die, I would say in this case avoid all but the absolute best, because of the equip costs. Your commander is mana hungry and you don't want to waste time casting you commander, then your equipment, them finally to attach said equips to your commander. Auras will cost less mana to do the same equivalent job, even if they're more vulnerable than equipment. Finally, add cards that cause damage when you draw cards, because while your commander is on the field, you will be drawing a lot of cards, so you may as well turn that into an alternative source of damage.
>>96145218The head and mandibles on the germ look like a redheaded anime girl with pigtails.
>>96145377>>96145444>I know he's not optimal for it>y'all niggas still are like thisgod forbid someone tries some proper fucking jank
>>96145350play picrel so you can bank your good shit for later on and dont have to decide too much on what to keep in hand
>>96145517Don't post this card
>>96145542are you scared of the mulato?
here is your sauceless version
>>96145552it still irks me that they gave us chris pine michelle rodriguez jeff goldblum but couldn't give us viggo mortensen
>>96145587Glad they didn't.
>>96145596Any reason other than spite?
>>96145599Because I didn't want a fucking LOTR film set with Sean Bean and Elijah Wood.
so we bumpin' image limits in the guise of "content" now?
>>96145587so glad they made the DnD Lair In-Universe. i hate the Chris Pine artwork with a passion, it sucks so bad
>>96145601>Because I didn't want a fucking LOTR film set with Sean Bean and Elijah Wood.>and what i want is what everyone wantsyes yes i'm sure your market research says that mark
>>96145615>posting here is "content"chat is he for real?
>>96145619the chris pine card is an adonis compared to what the other chris got
>>96145635well, yes. you are all my personal clowns
>>96145641cough up some nice fresh bait then
>>96145662next thread. need maximum derailment
>>96145587Rights issues. Hasbro doesn't have to go to Hasbro to ask permission to use their movie likeness.
>>96145639just get actors faces out of here overall. that neil patrick harris card is hideous
>>96145715i didn't know jeff goldblum was owned by hasbro
>>96145587The current owners of the LotR franchise doesn't own the rights of the movie trilogy. Anything done specifically for those is in the hands of Warner and good luck getting them to play ball.
>>96145728the point is wotc has no problem using actor faces for franchises that will be remade in a decade or so but they balk at doing the same in the one film series that's so iconic it will never be remade
>>96145735Jeff agreed. Jackson and pals told them to fuck off.
>>96145738weird hill for warner bros to die on then given how they're dying as a company but i've heard more retarded decisions from companies so i can believe it
>>96145770>jackson said nolol
>>96145781>Jackson with the big ass screen
>>96145738They sell the license to hundreds of products a year. I have some shitty shot glasses in my cupboard with the fellowship on them.
Why would they refuse to play ball with a big company when they do so for smaller ones all the time?
>>96145812I don't know man, Lazlav gets off on shooting himself in the foot I guess. The man is not known for sound business decisions.
>>96145812Post shot glasses.
>>96137758 (OP)snooPINGAS usual
>>96145812Is the Gandalf glass larger than the Frodo one?
>>96145879they are neither bad, nor boys
>>96145781Is Jackson super small or were 90s computers the size of washing machines?
>>96145812What REALLY shocks me about this is that they could have done both, in the same set.
Regular art could have been blackwashed, while the showcase could have been accurate to the lore(aka white) or vice versa. They literally could have had their cake and eaten it too
And no matter how much good will this garnered from the woke community; let's be honest it was mostly content for YouTube "creators" to shill about (and ultimately helped trump get elected), but thia decision to wokeify lotr is aging terribly. I don't think this is going to be looked back in a positive light
>>96145939A good computer used for more than Word or DOS games? Absolutely.
>>96145879uuuhm
this goes infinite
>>96145954I'm gonna keep it a buck. I wanted to make a LOTR themed deck with Aragorn as my commander until I found out they made him black and I got unreasonably mad at the whole crossover because the series is the most white thing in existence but the faggots just couldn't help themselves
A while back I started making a 4 decks custom commander set. I already posted the progress here, again a while back. I wanted to update you guys and also, if possible get some feedbacks on the cards. I am using AI for the arts.
The first one is :
ARCANE: RGB Big Spirits and Arcane instants/Sorcery (and Splice unto)
>>96146248The second one is:
DIRECTOIRE: Lots of human tokes, equipments and anti spirits spells
The "lore" is basically French revolution fighting against the HRE/Catholic Church and its very real power
>>96139271Well, it's really hard for him to die, he's indestructible.
>>96145954I have a friend who is the biggest lotr fan I know and I only recently got him into magic after bugging him long enough and I've never seen him get so pissed off when he asked me if he could make an aragorn deck since that's like his favorite character in fiction, when I showed him the aragorn art he instantly lost interest and started ranting about how wrong it is and I had to listen to lotr book lore for an hour
He wanted to buy a bunch of boxes and drink while we opened them but now he doesn't want to touch lotr at all
Atleast we go shitfaced opening final fantasy
>>96137758 (OP)What is an appropriate giant mega weapon for our wonderful Eggman?
And most importantly, what is the most ancient YTP card for his deck?
>>96148368Knight Paladin (renamed Egg Paladin)
Reaver Titan (Egg Titan)
>bought onaholes instead of cards for new deck
probably worth it desu