Thread 96145679

Is there anything in 40k that would stand a chance against the Space Monsters of Gunbuster? Considering that the basic space monsters can survive laying their eggs in stars and the bigger ones can absorb black holes into their own biology and survive direct impacts from planets moving at relativistic speeds, I don't see anything but the rarest and strongest of archeotech being of any real value. With necron tech or DAOT archeotech you might be able to kill space monsters, but the sheer size of their swarms mean that no faction in 40 has *enough* of their heaviest firepower needed to do the job.

And before you try to pull chaos into this, remember that Space Monsters are endgame evolution psychics. Diebuster confirms this. Rewriting the laws of physics and teleporting halfway across the galaxy is all physic in nature. If there is a future where humanity evolves psychic mastery and shuts out chaos like the Emperor planned, Space Monsters are what is on the other side of that evolutionary hurdle. The Topless psychics from Diebuster would be easily alpha+ by 40ks metrics (with feats like moving planets with their minds) and that is just the early stepping stones of the space monster evolution tech tree.

>>96145679 (OP)
My dad.

Ask your dad about it.

>>96145679 (OP)
Goku easily solos Gunbuster

>>96145679 (OP)
what's their leadership score? one farseer + hemlock can lower their LD to a potential max of 8, then chip it down with mind war. if they have spirit stones they should be able to deal about 600 wounds over 1200 turns before they perils on average

otherwise, virus bomb?

>>96145784
I can't imagine how a virus bomb would even work on space monsters. They are entirely spaceborn, they don't really land on planets except as crash landings by accident or when badly injured.

Like, lets say you fire a virus bomb at a space monsters and hit it, Congrats, you have infected that space monster. There are usually going to be dozens of miles between it and the next closest space monster, even when they travel as a swarm, because space is big. How is it ever going to infect anything else? Whats your transmission vector? Airborne means nothing when there's no air, and without the protection of an electromagnetic field or atmosphere any individual spore or virus particle is going to get cooked by cosmic radiation in open space. Earth viruses can't even survive *sunlight* for long.

>>96145828
oh nah im just hitting the space monster with it on the assumption that its not immune to the life-eater virus
>the virus will die of radiation
actually i think it will die in the fire after it converts all the biological material to explosive gas and self-ignites

>>96145679 (OP)
The Doctor.

>>96145896
Okay, that will likely kill one of them.

What about the rest?

>>96145679 (OP)
>Bringing animeslop to a powerscaling competition
Yawn

>>96146112
i dunno, how many are there? 40k can only win with clark-tech space magic, so its really just a question of how many virus bombs i get

>>96146112
There sure was a lot of degeneracy in Gunbuster....

>>96146375
>so its really just a question of how many virus bombs i get

Probably not enough. To even loosely fill a volume of space that big, we are talking something above trillions. I'm not enough of a mathematician to be able to put a number to it, but its safe to say that its in the range of 'unfathomably large'.
To even make a dent in a space monster swam of that size, you'd have to be armed with enough virus bombs to perform a 'conventional' exterminatus of basically every living planet in the IoM. And I don't think event he IoM would keep all of that ordinance in one place.

And this isn't even all of the space monsters. This is just the space monsters that show up to *one fight*. Its important to remember that Gunbuster 1 ends with mankind using a black hole bomb to swallow up and destroy the middle 60% of the milky way galaxy to wipe out the densely clustered stars that the space monsters use as their favored breeding grounds. A level of firepower that is orders of magnitude above anything thats possible within 40k. It didn't solve a damn thing.

>>96146517
okay i checked, theres only one of that dude ever and he shows up alone after all the other ones die so its hordes OR the one big guy, not both, and not hordes of big guy. there's no way to know how big the cruisers are presumably because its a vibes anime, but they seem bigger than 40k ships so i guess they win

>>96146829
>okay i checked, theres only one of that dude ever and he shows up alone after all the other ones die so its hordes OR the one big guy, not both, and not hordes of big guy.

I'm guessing you mean the Exelio Variable Gravity Well, from Diebuster? That is correct, then, in that it is one of a kind as far as we know. The only space monster that survive a black hole and managed to absorb it as a power source rather than be consumed by it. Exelio is a beast.

But even the smaller space monsters have been shown shooting through planets to strike at fleets of ships that were hiding on the other side of them. Exelio may be the biggest and the strongest, but its would be a dangerous mistake to assume that means that the more common space monsters are therefore 'weak'.

>>96145731
/thread

I dont care if this thread is a shitpost, I FUCKING LOVE GUNBUSTER.

One day, I plan to make a Gunbuster themed knight, right after I'm done making my EVA themed knights (started with an Atrapos painted like 01)

Aim for the top, bros.

>>96147153
Paperclip maximizer is limited by the tools at is disposal. Just because it WANTS to re-order all of time and space into producing paperclips for maximum efficiency doesn't mean that it CAN. A paperclip maximizer running on nothing more than a dell desktop with no internet access is still effortlessly defeated by anyone who has enough of a will to press alt-f4 or unplug the machine.

>>96145679 (OP)
Necrons almost certainly would have a "Break Glass In Case of AU Sized Alien Ships" button that deploys their nega-proton hyper beam cannon or whatever the fuck

40k is like 2000 AD, the lore gets pushed forward because there's some gigantic crisis and then a solution just happens to exist already, the protagonists just need to find it.

>>96147264
Universal Paperclips is a specific thing in that genre:
https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

>>96145679 (OP)
Why does everything need to be compared to 40K as a metric?
There are tons of settings that 40K would dominate, and there are tons of settings that would dominate 40K.
Get a better barometer.

>>96147468
Because this is /tg/, and 40k is the only scifi setting on the board.

>>96147468
In that case it's a perfect centerline for the barometer, like 0 Celsius.

>>96146894
>eats a black hole
When you're at that level of physics-breaking-stupid you might as well say they can juggle galactic clusters in one hand, ie, whatever the fuck they want, I don't have to explain shit it's magic-scifi.

Gunbuster is all style no substance.
You can essentially experience the whole anime by just watching this AMV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZaavNTCO5I

>>96147529
>no substance.
No substance? They explain time dilation, tau, gravity wells and mass-energy conversion using IRL physics! How many fucking animes do that?

>>96147529
>no substance

Look at this nigga, he didnt realize the science babble was actually relavant to the plot!

>>96147468
because people on the internet have this perception that 40k fans were some obnoxious powerscalers (despite every other setting having people like this) so now every faggot (like marcus vance) on ytub uses it as a punching bag

>>96147908
Back in the day there were some real obnoxious "40k is the strongest verse ever, chaos gods are ontologically invincible, tyranids are infinite, necrons can control reality" types presented with genuine sincerity. And even though it's been a long time since 2011, they've never been able to live it down.

>>96145679 (OP)
>With necron tech or DAOT archeotech you might be able to kill space monsters, but the sheer size of their swarms mean that no faction in 40 has *enough* of their heaviest firepower needed to do the job.
Necrons are exactly the ones you want to take on that job. Problem isn't even the weapons or production capability, they have both in spades - they literally use time-tech and black hole batteries on personal scale. Problem is that most of Necrons were crazy even when War in Heaven ended, but still had enough functional guys to keep their forces moving in a single direction. Now, after their Sleep a lot of them degenerated even further.

If you can find enough semi-functional Necrons to build a core of their forces they win. With post War in Heaven weapon ban repealed they turn Space Kaijus into sushi. They literally had a Time War going with the Old Ones.

>>96147935
absolutely but every universe has those types of people. see star wars fans for the last 30 years with muh 200 gigaton turbolasers

>>96147948
Necrons are certainly the faction with the best shot at it, but considering the sheer bullshit that Gunbuster Humanity was up to by the end of things the fact that the people of that setting eventually still gave up and went into hiding behind a big fuckoff wall to hide behind forever rather than keep fighting space monsters says a lot.
Like, Gunbuster humanity was capable of making a ship literally, physically indestructible and make human sized robots that could think black holes into existence on command with pinpoint precision enough to eat lightspeed weapons in midair... and they still couldn't see a version of the war that ended in victory.

>>96147935
Necrons could control reality in 2011?

>>96148105
It was an over-extrapolation of the Celestial Orrery, which can remotely cause supernova detonations like 3 times per millennium and is only ever used in unbelievably extreme circumstances. And represents the absolute pinnacle of Necron technology, one of a kind, their apex superweapon. Not something they can just do.

>>96147486
>Because this is /tg/, and 40k is the only scifi setting on the board.
Excuse you.

>>96148064
>Like, Gunbuster humanity was capable of making a ship literally, physically indestructible and make human sized robots that could think black holes into existence on command with pinpoint precision enough to eat lightspeed weapons in midair...
How the fuck do you lose at that point?

>>96148064
>Making a ship literally indestructible

Are you referring to the Excellion?
I seem to remember it getting it's ass beat in the last ep of the original show, and wasnt it destroyed in Diebuster?

Its been a while since i've watched the entirety of both, but even Gunbuster itself was almost entirely destroyed at the end.

>>96148504
By winning every battle and still losing the war. By realizing that all life, everywhere, in the universe eventually evolves into space monsters and that some day humans will too. That we are an evolutionary anomaly, and we will never find another 'civilization' out there that resembles us in any way that we can recognize... because galactic civilization exists, and its the space monsters. There will always, always, be more of them than there are of us. Not just in this galaxy, but all of the others as well.

We destroyed most of the galaxy just to try and stem the endless tide of space monsters in an absolutely horrific act of carnage, and it didn't change anything. We kept fighting, and kept fighting, and eventually we just gave up trying because we couldn't think of anything bigger we could possibly throw at the space monsters that wouldn't kill us too in the collateral damage. The space monsters are the inevitable, natural order of things. It was humanity that was in the wrong, and no amount of fighting could ever change that immutable truth.

>>96148504
Enemy uses Chronocannon from Lem's Star Diaries or some similar bullshit (Cyberiad omitted on purpose, due to how broken the achievements in it are).

>>96148656
The Excellion was a hell of a ship, bit it was just a warship. The Eltreum was the literally indestructible one, built during one of the generations-long offscreen relativistic timeskips. By some science we don't understand, the ship's hull is all one single molecule. It cannot be broken down into anything smaller than it already is. The science notes say that this artificial molecule materials, also named Eltreum, can theoretically be destroyed but only by contact with its antimatter equivalent (anti-Eltreum) which would naturally annihilate both in a conversion to pure energy. But since neither material is naturally occurring, anti-Eltreum doesn't exist unless someone goes out of their way to try and make some of it.

If I already enjoyed Gunbuster, should I watch Diebuster?

>>96148737
Oh crap, I entirely forgot about the Eltreum lol. Despite being my favorite anime, I purposely avoid watching it so that I can savor it sometime in the future.

Even thinking about the ending sequence gets me to tear up lol.

>>96148775
Diebuster is a different experience. It shares a lot of the same concepts and themes as Gunbuster, but its a lot more modern (circa 2003). If you liked FLCL and Gurren Lagann, I'd say yes, since it has a lot of the more over the top and wacky elements that Gainax started to do after FLCL.

>>96148775
Yes, but with the understanding that its from a very different era of the studio. Diebuster is closer in style and tone to something like TTGL than to the original Gunbuster, but while it takes a while to get there it ends up making the original even better IMO because of the extra weight it gives the events of Gunbuster with the added context of hindsight.

I can't tell you specifically how without spoiling it, but its only 6 episodes so go give it a watch and form your own opinion.

>>96148504
>>96148684
Basically this. Humans didn't lose physically in Gunbuster universe. They lost morally. Their spirit was crushed when galaxy after galaxy was just Space Kaijus flying around.
Resurgence happens only post Diabuster when humanity decides that "Fuck it! if they want a fight we are going to give them one". Shit escalates from there.

>>96148965
Did we ever get any post-Diebuster material that elaborated on that? Because IIRL they never actually say that they are leaving the solar system specifically to go fight space monsters again to wave the old flag. Just that humanity will no longer hide in the solar system and that extrasolar colonies that humanity had *assumed* would die on their own when they abandoned them and put the wall up have survived, and that contact with them is one by one being restored.

The fact that the human colonies still exist out there means that something about Earth's assumptions was wrong. Maybe the colonies came up with a weapons program that actually keeps the space monsters at bay. But, perhaps, the colonies came up with a way to communicate with the space monsters instead and there is some kind of peace now. We just don't know.

But I lean towards the 'peace' angle, because Gunbuster has a lot of The Forever War in it, and The Forever War ends with the soldiers coming back home from yet another relativistic timeskip and finding out that the war ended without them and the aliens and humanity have merged into one gestalt civilization now (which the paleo-humans don't understand at all) and finds the continued existence of the time-displaced soldiers of the war to be more of an embarrassing burden than anything else.

>>96149036
>But, perhaps, the colonies came up with a way to communicate with the space monsters instead and there is some kind of peace now.
What if we turned the Space Monsters into CUTE GIRLS?!

>>96149036
Nono class Buster Machines are perfectly capable of keeping star systems safe if they don't fuck around. Problem mostly stems from the fact that they are sapient and capable of depression over long enough spans of time and under enough pressure.

Post Diebuster you have a shortish manga/novel, but I don't remember if it was ever translated so most of my info is second hand. If I remember right they basically go into some kind of higher dimensions and fucking ontologically destroy the very idea of Space Kaijus by fighting with their "god". Meaning the very nature of the universe is rewritten by removing possibility for species to turn into Space Kaijus.

>>96149175
That sounds cheap, bad, and thankfully noncanon. Like Anima is to Evangelion.

>>96148684
I could see that leading to a nomadic type of society where the mega Type 3 human civilization flies the milky way around trying to dodge intergalactic monsters
Presumably, those big monsters fight each other and would likely care more about inter-monster conflicts than humans trying to escape it

>>96149319
Weirdly, no. The space monsters evolved from different worlds all seem pretty chill with each other. They fight alongside each other against us, and we don't know how they communicate.
We are the outliers. Spaceships shouldn't exist. If you haven't evolved the physical forms to exist in space yourself without any need of technology, you're not supposed to be here. Get the fuck back down on your planet where you belong until you have finished cooking.

>>96149401
>Get the fuck back down on your planet where you belong until you have finished cooking.
NO LITTLE ONES YOU SHOULD NOT BE HERE YOU CAN NOT EVEN BREATH IN SPACE

>>96149401
This post kind of makes me want to do a Space Monster run in Stellaris and bully every civ I encounter that does not use organic shipsets back to their starting planet.

>>96147948
The necrons didn't do anything but get bent over by the old ones then came back and got bent over by orks/eldar. The ctan did the heavy lifting. That they came back as trannies is proof.

>>96149401
That feels a little arbitrary.

Like, every single solar system and galaxy in the *entire multiverse* is somehow on the same philosophical page about everything and anything?

>>96150083
All I can tell you is that we've never seen them fight each other, and that while humanity originally thought they were all one big species we eventually figured out that that were actually thousands or millions of different species that had undergone some kind of convergent evolution.
As for why they work together to attack us, the original theory (before we knew about the convergent evolution thing) was that they were some kind of galactic antibody that saw us as an invasive threat.
It's possible that there were species of space monster that went against the grain and got wiped out, or simply don't work with the ecosystem of space monsters that we were at war with. It could be that humans flying around in little metal ships is such a visceral affront to the natural order that everyone else agrees that we MUST be stopped. The why is uncertain, but the level of coordination among them is self evident.

>>96150208
Imagine trying to exterminate an anthill in your front yard, and instead of them dying, they kill your dog in retaliation. Then you come back a few days later and some ant in a mech suit comes by and kills half of your town, a year later they fucking nuke the country after mass producing a bunch of dog sized ant mechas.

I think that kind of puts things into how nuts Gunbuster is lmao.

>>96145731
But does any Dragonball OP come close to Gunbuster's?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIq-ep5A9g

>>96147050
It was really good

>>96150411
Yeah, head cha-la btfo's it, sad to say.

The lamest versus threads are when you start a coughing baby/hydrogen bomb scenario and basically have to rely on unsuspecting outsiders to drip feed in to say "uh I dunno maybe they could shoot them?" so you can shit on them.
Unless someone comes at you first with a "heh that looks gay the chaos gods could simply wish it into unexistence..." bullshit it's just clubbing seals.

>>96150411
What you gotta appreciate is that they had the guts to made a Volleyball anime about universal space war.

>>96147908
Please stop saying powerscaling when you mean vs debating, powerscaling is an already established term which means degenerate extrapolation

>>96145679 (OP)
My orks
>but orks lost at Octarius
Mine didn't, and they're the protagonist of this story

>>96145679 (OP)
Diebuster was mid, therefore your argument is invalid

>>96152547
>a volleyball anime
It's a top gun anime with space mechs, retard. The reason volleyball is in at all is because it was in top gun. Did AIM FOR THE TOP, GUNbuster not tip you off?

>>96153539
You are very aggressive for someone wrong.
The sports themes of the early episodes of Gunbuster don't come from Top Gun, they come from the tennis anime Aim For The Ace, which is reflected in the title Aim For The Top.

>>96153539
>>96153577
>The title is a combination of the titles of classic tennis manga and anime Aim for the Ace! and hit action drama film Top Gun, whose plots inspired Gunbuster's.
Congrats, you're both right AND you're both wrong!

>>96150355
>>96150208
It probably *should* have just been one species, then it would have made sense. Some alien race became a biotitan hivemind in the very early universe, and has spent billions of years spreading to different galaxies making new biotitans out of entire stars.

I understand the whole "every alien species eventually becomes a hivemind/kaiju and they hate us!" is intended for the existential dread factor, but as a setting it kind of relies on fiat.

>>96154809
Granted its been a while since i've seen Gunbuster, but I dont remember them mentioning a whole lot about the space monsters themselves.

To be honest though, a lot of the lore is set dressing to have sick ass mecha fights so I dont think its all that deep when it comes to the kaijus themselves.

>>96154967
>To be honest though, a lot of the lore is set dressing to have sick ass mecha fights so I dont think its all that deep when it comes to the kaijus themselves.
Which is completely fine. It's scifi godzilla and the lore is justifying why there are a (literal) endless stream of gigantic kaiju to fight.

Gurren Lagan clearly took a lot of inspiration from Gunbuster for the anti-spiral, and used that as a springboard for saying more with the same-ish premise.

>>96155397
>Gurren Lagan clearly took a lot of inspiration from Gunbuster for the anti-spiral, and used that as a springboard for saying more with the same-ish premise.

What do you see of Gunbuster in the Anti-Spiral? Because I always saw that as much more of a Getter influence.

>>96153672
fukken lmao

>>96152705
true, i just have a bad habbit of using them interchangeably. plus a majority of people do just powerscale, most ‘vs debates’ fall apart because nobody actually wants to, they just want to drop the biggest number no matter how nonsensical it is

>>96155764
>Because I always saw that as much more of a Getter influence.
Well both were probably drawing from Getter to begin with...

>>96155397
>Gurren Lagan clearly took a lot of inspiration from Gunbuster
From Diebuster more like. Diebuster was basically a test run for TTGL, it being the prototrigger anime and all.

>>96147153
Which one would win, a machine that turns the universe into paperclips or Mantrid Drones turning the universe into Mantrid Drones?

>>96149401
>>96148965
>>96149175

Is Mass Effect just Gunbuster with some technicolor space babes thrown in?

>>96145679 (OP)
wtf even are the space monsters?

>>96160187
Women in Gunbuster have pubes, so no.

Also there were no uplifted dolphin navigators in Mass Effect.

>>96160757
Monsters in space

>>96145679 (OP)
Slaanesh

Eh, I'll take weebs being insecure about the power level of some obscure weebshit over yet another episode of Halo/Destiny kiddies doing it. At least there's the novelty factor this way.

>>96160920
>uplifted dolphin navigators
That truly was a period in scifi, wasn't it? Just like WW3 being a nuclear one and we just moved on from it.

>>96161980
Highly publicized dolphin experiments in the 1960s-1970s brought widespread awareness of dolphin intelligence to the mainstream. That's why Flipper was popular.

It was natural to imagine a future where humans and another terrestrial intelligent species were cooperating.

>>96160920
>Also there were no uplifted dolphin navigators in Mass Effect.
I'm sorry, there was no what?

>>96162004
In a world with sapient dolphins, how much more dolphin porn would you imagine there being? They would, after all, be able to consent.
>>96162015
Dolphins.

>>96162093
Scifi dolphins everywhere.

>>96162118
Live-action scifi dolphin porn uploaded straight into your brain.

>>96145679 (OP)
>Spacebattles powerlevel wank
No one but you autists care. This is a discussion for 14 year olds.
I think the Space Monsters are kinda neat. And the story they are in is cool. They are the way they are because of the story they are in. Putting them in a different story which has different tones and goals, is, at best, missing the point.

If you started this thread just to talk about Gun/Diebuster then cool. Carry on.

>>96162131
>>96162118
>ANONS
>FORGET ABOUT
>DARWIN

>>96160187
mass effect is babylon 5+berserkers

>>96160187
Mass Effect is just a really derivative scifi setting with the last 12 things the writers themselves read smooshed into a barely coherent excuse to fuck space babes.
I will never understand why people like it so much besides the space babes.

>>96162844
Nobody remembers Sea Quest.

>Humanity is ended by MWO

>>96161980
Personally I think the potential is much higher to uplift Corvids, simply because they are significantly easier to interact with, being land animals, and don't have murder in their hearts.

>>96162916
Dolphins may be the Rape Horses of the seas, but at least they aren't commies.

>>96162955
How are Corvids commies?
The live in family units. They are the definition of the nuclear family unit.
And they steal from each other all the fucking time.

>>96162895
/tv/ posts webms from it all the time.

>>96162989
It's a reference to Orcas attacking the rich.

>>96163045
I think thats just a statistical anomaly, since its mostly rich people who own boats.

On the other hand I think we really need to take it upon ourselves to ban uplifting Orcas right fucking now. They're already too damn smart. They have culturally agreed to not kill and eat humans, despite frequent opportunities. They decided that the creatures that nearly wiped out several species of dumber whales should not be fucked with and all agreed to it.

>>96162916
Problem is a bunch of New Age hippies didn't study them and try to fuck them, so they didn't get the same recognition.

>>96148019
Yes, but some fanboy writing a non-canon technical manual that has Star Destroyers firing Chicxulub craters from every gun but having the density of styrofoam it's funny. 40k fanboys have an obnoxious tendency to enter into discussions comparing franchises and not only immediately downplay everything not 40k but also to argue for a version of 40k that doesn't align with the actual fluff while immediately demanding the "rules" of the other franchise be invalidated and replaced by how 40k functions but the other franchise also doesn't know that.

>>96163398
This. 40k fans spent like a solid decade on this board doing nothing but arguing how much stronger 40k was than other settings, using a very specific set of arguments that anyone who was here before the first Trump presidency can probably quote from memory.

It happens less often these days, but only because /tg/ as a board doesn't *everything* less often these days, no one has bothered to program a bot to make crossover battle topic threads yet.

>>96147935
And the Halo kiddies have never recovered from the emotional trauma of realizing that “le glass le planet” isn’t actually an impressive feat.

>>96148504
Bad writing with flowery language, Japan’s real good at doing that.

>>96151916
> head cha-la
The WORST dragon ball opening btfos gunbuster? Damn, that OP must fucking suck, glad I didn’t open the link.

>>96162893
>I will never understand why people like it so much besides the space babes.
There was genuine love and care put into the world of the first game and Bioware has been coasting on that ever since

>>96163398
>but also to argue for a version of 40k that doesn't align with the actual fluff

I can agree on the downplaying though I don’t think I’ve ever seen too much of this, unless you mean how people occasionally insist SMs are routinely tanking autocannons because a couple of sources show it.

>>96164744
Movie marines is one
"Chaos instacorrupts all AI" is another huge one I see
I've also seen anons insist that any magic/spacemagic user would likewise instantly fall to Chaos
Or pretend the Imperium would be able to bring its full might to bear on anything at all when in lore they can't even focus on a tyranid hive fleet beelining directly for Terra

>>96164744
The most egregious I routinely saw was "literally any technology, especially AI, that isn't blessed by tech priests instantly and completely falls to Chaos." which constantly got extended to "anyone remotely important instantly and completely falls to chaos"

>>96150411
yes, any of them come close and even surpass it. Fuck off, you smell like old cum
/thread

>>96164767
I like the "lasguns are actually insanely powerful and instantly melt steel and frag human bodies into chucks on a glancing hit, and they're the WEAKEST gun in the setting!" and then you look and they're just stubbers but laser.
>>96164767
>any magic/spacemagic user would likewise instantly fall to Chaos
I saw the being applied to entire factions. "X couldn't beat warhammer, their lust for war would lead to them all being corrupted by khorne!"
I mean even aside from chaos corruption happening at the speed of plot, is that even a loss scenario? Like great now the bloodthirsty warriors from a different universe are even more bloodthirsty and wear red. They're not dead or anything.

>>96164767
>"Chaos instacorrupts all AI" is another huge one I see
Which is weird when even within the setting there's plenty of AI not corrupted by Chaos.
>>96166627
I wouldn't say insanely powerful and there's plenty of variety between models, but for the most part they do seem to have the power of a full rifle cartridge at least. Bigger problem is that D6 gives pretty wide scale to work with. A 19mm explosive rocket and a .50 BMG are equally powerful, as is an emaciated pencil neck nerd and a roided up body builder capable of firing heavy machine guns from the hip.

>>96166627
>then you look and they're just stubbers but laser.
Lasguns are weaker than autoguns, which are LITERALLY ak47s.

That's right, a fucking AK47 gets armor piercing against space marine armor
>>96167305
Honestly I think a good chunk of tau hate is from powerbattles fags mad that their existence is a hard denial of a lot of pro-40K powerbattle arguments

>>96167752
>Lasguns are weaker than autoguns, which are LITERALLY ak47s.
Since when? In 2e lasguns had AP-1 while autoguns didn't, and in novels it's mentioned Navy prefers autoguns and shotguns to avoid puncturing hulls or damaging equipment during boarding action. Many lasguns are mentioned as being semi-automatic while auto weapons have high rates of fire, both equating to the same rapid fire S3 stats on the table. Autoguns are also caseless and use future materials, while stub weapons are equivalent to 20th century firearms.

>>96167793
Could've sworn it was autoguns that got the AP-1, not lasguns. Could easily be wrong tho.

>>96169268
Laspistols were bad at long range and lasguns had AP-1. Hot-shot power packs made lasguns and pistols S4, so they became effectively bolters.

>>96146420
>Jung in her underwear
Nice

>>96170877
>Laser pistol gets penalty to hit at long range
¿

>>96172058
Lasers loss efficiency and also diffuse at long range.

>>96172058
Laser doesn't fix issues with an unsupported firearm with short sight radius and all that jazz. Stub guns and plasma pistols also get -1 at long range. Autopistols can fire bursts, increasing their chance of scoring a hit. Same with shuriken pistols.

>>96145679 (OP)
Probably not.
I don't care for Gainax so I'll take your word for it

>>96145679 (OP)
Xenosaga can fit into this category. They have an enemy called the Gnosis which are actually the souls of people who refuse to join the collective conciousness. They can have many shapes and some are even made out of whole planets (which happens in game) or an entire Solar System.

Then of course comes the massive scale such as the size of such super structures as the Song of Nephilim and the even bigger Proto Merkabah and super weapons such as KOSMOS's Phase Transfer Cannon

>>96147520
>juggle galactic clusters in one hand
Well, it's gainax, so it's expected

>>96162004
And then scientists figured out that they were the rapists of the sea.

>>96172221
sounds kinda weird

>>96145679 (OP)
Anything Orks believe in great enough numbers qualifies as a consensus where-by things that have no business functioning by the laws of physical reality function simply based on that belief.

>>96182206
>memelore
Neck yourself, secondary-kun.

>>96174237
Also drug addicts.

>>96182341
Memelore > weebwank
Sorry, newfag, that's just how it is.

>>96147050
BASED GUNBUSTER ENJOYER

>>96188140
/a/ was here first, newfren.

>>96188140
>redditfag thinks his yapping matters at all

>>96182341
nta, but is what they said not true? Fully open to being educated here.

>>96190536
IIRC the more Orks around the bigger their psychic gestalt becomes which lets them nudge reality a bit to build bigger and bigger contraptions that wouldn't normally work. It doesn't mean that they can blow stuff up by pretending their fingers are guns like in that one stupid greentext meme.

>>96190536
The orks' ability to influence reality has been greatly exaggerated by fans for comedic purposes. There is no evidence that their ability to believe things into reality greatly exceeds that of other psychic races, or that an ork can pick up a stick and start firing bullets out of it because he pretends it's a gun. When things like "this can only work because they believe it can" are said in-universe, it's likely just a character trying to rationalize the way ork tech is bafflingly advanced for how retarded they seem.
Or else orks would win every fucking time due to, you know, being omnipotent. The Beast could tell his boyz to imagine an Uranus-sized anvil falling on Terra and crushing it, winning instantly.

>>96145679 (OP)
Anon, 40k tyranids are rebranded Gunbuster space monsters. But you already knew that, right nidfag?
>>96147050
based. Gunbuster was awesome.

>>96190681
>>96190723
Ah good this is pretty much what I already knew, I thought for a second I had been somehow bamboozled by loreheads.

>>96190816
Tyranids are inspired by things like IRL locusts, Xenomorphs, and Starship Troopers. There is no Gunbuster in their creative DNA.
Frankly, I can't think of anything in 40k that shows anything but the vaguest awareness of anything from Japan. Even their mech faction, the Tau, is much more inspired by stuff like battletech than japanese style mecha.

>>96147595
>>96147825
That's just autism. You can slap realist autism on anything and still have something that is without substance.

>>96193847
Now we're getting to the point where I guess we need to have you define what you count as 'substance', otherwise it remains as ephemeral a quality as saying something has 'soul', which usually just means "its a thing that I like".

>>96193788
Weebsloppers tend to think Japan is the source of every idea they like. Ask an Elden Ring fan which parts were written by GRRM, and they'll point to things they dislike- everything else was a Miyazaki masterpiece, superior nipponese kino folded 1,000 times per his perfect slanty vision.

>>96193884
I'm genuinely not sure what parts of Elden Ring came from GRRM aside from maybe the family drama of some of the demigods. Too much of the lore lines up with existing FROM Software tropes and trends for me to think that GRRM's contributions were actually very large.

Like, you can't convince me that GRRM wrote the cosmic horror 'living stars and outer gods' stuff, not when it so heavily thematically overlaps with the Eldritch Truth stuff from Bloodborne. Or, if he wrote anything there, it got so heavily filtered through FROM after the fact that I can't see anything of George left in it.

>>96193925
>he wrote anything there, it got so heavily filtered through FROM
I can see this. It's somewhat consistent with Souls stories and world building.

>>96145679 (OP)
The Chaos Gods would still eventually beat them in a psychic-to-psychic fight as the Space Monsters are mortal creatures that exist on a linear timescale who 'will' turn to dust from having their coils overclocked to the finish line if they sufficiently anger the Warp's big cheeses.

>>96162893
It was done in a charming way that wasn't just a parody of its inspiration.

>>96193925
>>96195803
Case in point.

>>96163582
Halo UNSC space ships are supposed to be clunky and primitive, using weapons that the original Star Trek described as the equivalent of space-age ironclads, while the Covenant themselves are roughly comparable to the main civilization of the Bolo series in technology (if not in its practical use.)

>>96147948
>>96148064
The Necrons would probably have a better time at it than the humans of Gunbuster precisely because they faced the Space Monsters' argument before with the C'tan and told them under no uncertain terms that they would rather maintain their collective self-determination than accept some superpowered asshole's philosophy.

>>96196000
>they faced the Space Monsters' argument before with the C'tan and told them under no uncertain terms that they would rather maintain their collective self-determination than accept some superpowered asshole's philosophy.
Was this before or after they sold their souls to said space monsters to turn them into mindless robots with the few remaining who have their minds left slowly going insane (if they haven't already)?

>>96196090
They effectively lost the argument by selling their souls, but it was the thought that counted.

>>96196095
>"Hanesh, have you looked our heads lately."
>"What about them?"
>"They're skulls. Hanesh... are we the baddies?"

>>96196090
>Was this before or after they sold their souls to said space monsters to turn them into mindless robots with the few remaining who have their minds left slowly going insane (if they haven't already)?
Both.
Friendly reminder that they got rid of their cancer, defeated the Old Ones, caused the fall of the Eldar empire and the devolution of the Krorks, and now keep those self same star gods in Pokeballs, as pets.

A win is still a win even if it comes with a cost.

>>96196125
>they got rid of their cancer
In the same way you fix a broken toe by cutting off your limb.
>defeated the Old Ones
I'm sure the warp spawned monsters stirred up by the Old Ones didn't help.
>caused the fall of the Eldar empire and the devolution of the Krorks
By going to sleep?
>now keep those self same star gods in Pokeballs
Except for the ones that are roaming free and looking for their parts.
>A win is still a win even if it comes with a cost.
Living metal hands wrote this post.

Why is it that the only weabshit that ever seems to capture the attention of fa/tg/guys is hot garbage that seems like it was written by an 8 yo?

>>96193925
From how I heard it, GRRM gave them a rough draft of the world and political nonsense and then fromsoft fromsofted the shit out of his setting to get Elden Ring. So it essentially went something like this
>GRRM: This is Godrick, he's the weakest of demigods. A terrible leader, a terrible fighter. Just the worst, really, and nobody respects him.
>Miyazaki: Okay. In that case he grafts a bunch of Tarnished to himself in order to grow stronger and his castle is seated atop the remains of a dead god. And in Phase 2, he grafts a dragon head to his arm and uses it as a flamethrower!
GRRM is also responsible for all the turtles in ER, as they're his spirit animal.

>>96196385
Boo fucking hoo

>>96193869
Sure. It's the human element. The dynamics numerous characters have with other people whom they can only understand in partial ways, how the environment that they live in and subsist on also limits them, and how they deal with their own internal contradictions. Relating broad themes and motifs and events to the personal and the collective whole. Oh, and, the purely poetic quality of a work is also important. Dropping text from research papers into fiction is pretty shallow. As far as animation goes however, it is a totally respectable.

>>96196461
The loathsome Dung Eater seems like his work too.

>>96193847
>Sci-Fi nerds make a show the appeals to other nerds
>Fill it full of giant monsters and sick robot fights
>Knowing that their audience will question a lot of what they're seeing, they try to justify it using the known science of their day without knowing if it actually works that way.
>They know they can get away with it because the internet doesnt exist.
>but also who gives a fuck because its a sick ass mecha show.

Its like in Getter Robo when they talk about Getter Rays and how they work but it doesnt matter because holy fuck Ryoma just eviscerated a fucking giant monster.

>>96145679 (OP)
How well would they stand up against the Rangdan at the height of their power? What if they develop a way to enslave them like they did other xenos species?

>>96190536
Pretty much
Its psychic duct tape and WD40. Ork shit works better because they're orks but at some point the ork had to be actually convinced it worked at all in the first place and they are violent, retarded green apes. It knows what a metal pipe is and knows that you didn't just magically turn it into an RPG just by picking it up off the ground but if the mekboy used it as the basis to actually build a grenade launching potato cannon the boyz believing that the mek is capable of such a thing would make it not break down instead of exploding in their face as they drop stikkboms down it.
Red cars go faster because the kult of speed likes the color red and pays meks to supercharge their engines but orks just jump to the most evident conclusion instead of reasoning out what they cant see.

>>96211005
Its also a bit of a chicken and egg scenario. Red ones go faster so any mekboy worth his teef is going to paint his fastest contraptions as red as possible, thus reinforcing the belief that red ones go faster

>deldar detonate some black hole bombs
wowla. problem solved

>>96216248
They tried that. It doesn't work.

>>96216347
I mean, it *does* work. The problem is that there are never enough black hole bombs for as many space monsters you have to deal with. Gunbuster humanity could make as many blackhole bombs as they wanted, each one capable of wiping out an entire fleet of space monsters if detonated in the right place, and it wasn't enough. They made a blackhole bomb big enough to erase the *entire 40k setting in one go* in it wasn't enough.

The Dark Eldar's black hole bombs are frankly piddly in comparison. Firecrackers being compared to nuclear bombs.

>>96216378
Yes but killing **a** Space Monster was never the issue. The smaller ones were vulnerable to megaton nukes and scifi spears. The issue is that Space Monsters almost always come in packs that out mass planetary bodies, if not solar systems.

Is there anything in 40k that would stand a chance against the Suggsverse Cockroach?
>Joker walked by as he noticed a cockroach. The cockroach eliminated all concepts including itself, existence, non-existance, omnipotence, and the concept of concepts, yet still survived. The cockroach buzzed with enough power to erase infinity universes to the power of infinity beyond the concept of speed or comprehension. Joker laughed and squashed it.
Is there anything in 40k or Gunbuster that would stand a chance against this stick figure guy named Joe I just came up with who can effortlessly fight an entire galaxy full of suggsverse cockroaches?
Is there anything in 40k or Gunbuster or any universe more meaningless than powerwank pissing contests? There's zero effort or creativity involved in coming up with "the strongest thing eva", local kid at the playground can do that for you. High power levels don't add anything to the quality of storytelling, just look at Dragon Ball. It's the stupidest shit ever.

>>96216588
>Is there anything in 40k or Gunbuster or any universe more meaningless than powerwank pissing contests?
You. Crossover talk at least occasionally makes people happy.

>>96216588
Gunbuster uses the Space Monsters to ask a bunch of questions, like most media that has something overpowered like that.
Its asking "how far would humanity go in fighting something seemingly unbeatable" and "what tole that fight, taking place at relativistic speeds, would have on the soldiers fighting it?" as well as more typical questions about relationships between people in a war setting.

powerwank and spacebattles type discussions are pretty empty and shitty. But just having something "strong" in a setting doesn't detract from its potential storytelling. Potential, there's plenty out there that don't have much else to say but "my character is supa strong!" Gunbuster is not really one of those.

>>96216614
No, it doesn't. It makes them angry and reduces their IQ to low double digits.

>>96216657
Nah it makes spectators happy. See any Star Trek vs Star Wars spergout.

>>96216588
>joker did [some fagshit i dunno i lost interest]
I rape the Jonkler. Anything named Joker is weak against rape.

>>96216588
Same energy as people going "heh who cares about sports its just a bunch of dudes chasing a ball around..."

It's fun.

>>96216614
I don't think anything makes anyone happy on /tg/ anymore.

>>96145731
If he doesn't mindraped first, then he can definitely do it.

>>96190816
>Anon, 40k tyranids are rebranded Gunbuster space monsters
I wish. The Space Monsters have such a unique and cool design.
>>96150208
>we eventually figured out that that were actually thousands or millions of different species that had undergone some kind of convergent evolution
What is this piece of lore from? I don't remember this in Gunbuster nor Diebuster

>>96226430
>What is this piece of lore from? I don't remember this in Gunbuster nor Diebuster

Diebuster. Have you forgotten that the Topless psychics ping as Space Monsters to the solar system defense robots, which is why they started attacking humans? Humanity is evolving into space monsters, and the Topless are the earliest step in that direction.
The Twins on Jupiter even refer to the space monster buried there as an eternal Topless, and eating its flesh enhances their abilities and keeps their powers from burning out like what happens to most Topless as they get older.

>>96190816
The Orks are a closer match to what the Space Monsters are, if said Space Monsters pissed off a bunch of powerful entities who spitefully devolved them into something approaching the pink midgets they loathe.

how would muv luv alien fellas fare against them?

>>96228905
Against space monsters?
I don't know enough about the BETA's capabilities in space, beyond the fact that 1960s earth nukes were not enough to stop them from landing. Nothing we see of the BETA on land is a threat to space monsters. Even their lasers, while impressive, are just nowhere near the firepower or range needed to be a threat to them.Gunbuster Humanity had lasers to spare and they were only sort of useful.

But honestly... I don't think they would even bother each other for the most part? The BETA stripmine planets. The Space Monsters lay their eggs in stars. They probably just ignore each other, because they don't complete for resources in any real capacity so there's little reason to interact. They could both be operating in the same solar system and just pass each other by without bothering each other. The BETA by default wouldn't give a shit about the Space Monsters because thats outside of the purview of their programming, so its really a question of whether the Space Monsters choose to attack the BETA for whatever reason.

>>96221595
It would try to mindrape him, but he would get really mad and scream while powering up and then start punching the monster and it would say some shit about how this is impossible and Goku would say nothing is impossible if you believe in yourself or something like that

>>96228905
Better question. What would Nono do if she was dropped into 40k?

>>96233185
Find a friend and then dropkick Gods of Chaos in the face.

Like, even human avatar interaction only Nono is still basically an STC to shit on all STCs that can beat the shit out of 99% of opponents short of some greater demons or a Titan lance. Fully working Nono is C'Tan tier as they were during War in Heaven.

>>96152714
Orks just can't stop winning!

>>96228999
>The BETA by default wouldn't give a shit about the Space Monsters because thats outside of the purview of their programming
They'd try to strip mine them if they accidentally landed on one. Which basically makes them some kind of intergalactic tick infection, as far as the space monsters are concerned.

>>96233185
Total Imperium Victory, unironically. She morally agrees with them on "exterminate the mutant, the heretic, the xenos" and can shit out a billion trillion buster legion units and beat every other faction but Nids and Demons with numbers alone. Buster Beams will probably spook Necrons into spinning up the mothballed shit and you might end up with War in Heaven Part 2 though.

Nono is a strict human supremacist who agrees with first strike doctrine. In a more peaceful setting than her own (say, Star Trek) she'd be a supervillain. In 40K she isn't out of place morally at all.

>>96234291
>Imperium victory
She'd wipe out the Imperium too because humans should be free to forge their own future and there's no way she'd recognize the Emperor as a human.

>>96234291
>>96234334
Isn't Nono cool with mutants?

>>96234334
Yeah but she's recognize Custodes as humans and probably would be willing to let it slide if they told her they had a good reason. Because even though she is a weapon of genocide, she is still nice and willing to hear out a human.
>>96234354
Topless are basically psykers and pseudo-space monsters and she lets them live, so I would say she would draw the line there at the bare minimum? I think anything beyond that would be pure speculation. Would she consider a beastman human? My gut says no.

>>96196125
The Necrons lost to the Old Ones, sold their souls to the C'tan for a second try, relied on C'tan support to beat the Old Ones even with massively upgraded tech and immortal bodies, then had to wait until the C'tan were eating each other before they could rebel and stand the slightest chance at winning, still managed to nearly get wiped out by said C'tan anyways, then got their shit pushed in by the resurgent Eldar, realized they literally stood 0 chance of victory now, so they ran and hid like bitches for 65 million years.
The Necrons fucking lost the War in Heaven. Deal with it, retarded metal-loving fagface

>>96234354
Not when they do fucked up shit and play chessmaster with humanity. She definitely wouldn't be okay with the 1000 psykers a day fed to the Emperor.
>>96234521
>she'd recognize fucked up mutants who run roughshod over humanity as humans
Lolnope, she'd rider kick every last custode to death for giving up their hunanity in the name of tyranny.

>>96234634
Custodes are definitely human (it's kinda the crux of their identity), so I'm still on the fence about that premise. I'm with you on her rider kicking some fools, but I see the Astartes as being on the receiving end. Since their retarded civil war was the source of so much human suffering.

>>96234655
>Custodes are definitely human
Humans don't live for 10K years, don't know what to tell you. Plus you're completely glossing over the fact she'd be appalled at their inhuman morality, not their biological composition. The custodes are bastard manipulators, which she hates. Plus they're fiercely loyal to the Emperor, whose existence she'd never tolerate.

She'd also wipe out the High Lords of Terra as well, regardless of how "human" you want to argue they are.

>>96145731
Goku gets soloed by Superman.

>>96147529
Filtered.

>>96234291
>Total Imperium Victory
Impossible because the Imperium hates Artificial Intelligence which is what Nono is.

>>96236863
I'm pretty sure the Imperium is perfectly capable of hypocrisy when it benefits them. I mean, they already are hypocrites after all so that would be proof I suppose.

>>96239292
It's a shame the Ing didn't get a chance to shine beyond Echos. Although the circumstance of their being was probably specific only to Aether so there is that.

>>96145679 (OP)
Kirby beats the space monsters just like he would beat 40k, the daleks, a flumph, Pandorym, Jasper Stone, Darkseid with the anti-life equation, Thanos with the infinity Gauntlet, Batman with prep time, Squirrel Girl, Popeye, Carmen Sandiego, Unicron and Primus, Demonbane, Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Eva unit 01 at 400% sync, the Incubators, the Q Continuum, Skynet, the Galactic Empire, Godzilla, Azathoth, every SCP, One Punch Man, Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo, Joyboy, Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara et cetera, the Saiyans, the Kryptonians, the Xenomorphs, the Flood, the X Parasites, the Combine, Yukari Yakumo, the Shrike, the Culture, the Chtorr, the Photino birds, God Emperor Leto II Atreides, the One Ring, Power-man, and Mr. Rogers.

>>96244027
>Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
...Not sure Kirby could out weird DA WILD CHALLENGER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxwOo9Y6DQM

>>96244027
>Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
...Not sure Kirby could out weird DA WILD CHALLENGER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxwOo9Y6DQM

>>96244027
>Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
...Not sure Kirby could out weird DA WILD CHALLENGER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxwOo9Y6DQM

>>96244134
>>96247886
???

>>96248411
A Hajikelist fights by confusing their enemies into submission!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hemaeg4NEK8

>>96234655
>Custodes are definitely human
Most definitely not.
>it's kinda the crux of their identity
It most certainly is not. The crux of Custodes identity is being inhuman in every single way. From being inhumanly intelligent to inhumanly strong to inhumanly tough to simply inhumanly cold and willing to sacrifice billions of lives to save trillions.

>>96234655
>Custodes are definitely human
In what fucking world?

>>96145828
Tyranid spores would infect them en masse and turn them into a new tyranid genus if they are vulnerable to biological warfare.

>>96244027
As a thorough fan of Kirby who knows which ones he can and can't beat: he can't beat Azathoth, Demonbane, Pandorym, or Yukari. (Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet "should" also win, if he wasn't retarded, but unfortunately for Thanos, he always is.)
Pandorym has no stats and can't be killed. Them's the D&D rules.

>>96244027
Post Kirby destroying a galaxy.

>>96252272
Post Goku destroying a planet.

>>96244027
>>96251596
>Yukari

Yukari is a fraud, a manipulator who flees from fights unless she's sure that either she'll win, or there won't be any lasting consequences to her losing. She runs into the limits of her powers constantly, with the only source claiming she's Maximum McGigastrong being in-universe propaganda written by Yukari herself.
>Needs to chain multiple portals just to reach the top of a mountain, explicitly cannot portal to the moon unless special conditions are met
>Creating the Great Hakurei Barrier required a long ritual and the assistance of multiple powerful youkai + gods
>Her durability actually comes from armor hidden under her clothes
>Whenever she approaches you in the middle of a weird incident acting smug and saying "I bet you don't know what's happening" it actually means she doesn't know herself and is using reverse psychology to trick you into telling her. EVERY time.
>Doremy threatened to destroy Yukari's mind for intruding in the Dream World; Yukari never questions whether she *could*, only whether she *would*

She's dangerous but not primarily in the "beats you up" way, and she even said so herself in her introduction.

>>96251171
Which there’s no proof that they are given that they can not only exist in but use the completely inhospitable environment of stars as egg nests and food, even the most eldritch of Tyranids can’t survive in a sun let alone feed off one.

>>96252281
That just means Goku is also a fraud like Kirby.

>>96145679 (OP)
That looks cool.

>>96252272
https://youtu.be/0iqABa_SFP0

>>96251596
>Pandorym has no stats and can't be killed. Them's the D&D rules.
Kirby also has no dnd stats though.

>>96251596
He beats them all AND he makes them his friends.

>>96145679 (OP)
welp, time to rewatch gunbuster

>>96252301
>manipulates the boundaries of winning and losing so even when she loses, she wins

heh gg scrub

>>96150083
Space Monsters are basically the interstellar equivalent of crabs. Everything evolves into them eventually and the things that don't are freaks of nature who NEED to be destroyed for violating the natural cycle.

>>96251596
He literally killed primordial chaos itself

>>96163099
>On the other hand I think we really need to take it upon ourselves to ban uplifting Orcas right fucking now.
No. I want to witness Orca domination - they can't run the Earth any fucking worse than we have in the last couple decades.

>>96228905
There are arguably more BETA than there are any number of Space Monsters (upwards of 10^37+10^37x7^10 to 10^37+10^37x9^10 BETA in existence), but they're so comparatively miniscule that they wouldn't really do much. That and like anon said, them and the Space Monsters would just ignore each other because they have less than zero reason to interact due to differing motivations.

>>96255588
He killed one instance of Void across potentially infinite dimensions. That basically goes unnoticed in the grand scheme of things and Void is so diffused to begin with that it's arguable if it even noticed it.

>>96255611
infinite kirbys > infinite voids

>>96255611
It definitely noticed. He also killed an avatar of pure hate and pain that persisted after death (until Kirby killed it so hard it died to death) and corrupted everything it came in contact with (except Kirby)

>>96255601
I'm not into Muv Luv, how come there's so many?

>>96255588
He didn't kill Void, he just killed the impulse to destruction that lingered in Void and incarnated it in the form of Void Termina. Void exists eternal.

>>96258128
They're a paperclip maximizer made by a race of all silicon-based lifeforms designed to harvest celestial bodies to send resources back home.

>>96258128
They fill most of the universe, they're basically carbon based von neumann devices sent to mine out rocky celestial objects.

>>96258128
The author wanted to give them a big, impressive number but is bad at science and math. Remember, combat BETA that are hard to kill have armor that is special because it has a mohs hardness of 15. Mohs hardness is purely a measurement of relative scratch resistance, not strength against force or trauma. To put it another way: diamonds will scratch any other material, but any normal dude with a hammer can shatter diamond. Diamond armor would be exceptionally shitty armor despite being the 'hardest' material on earth.

>>96233185
She would spawn in the Solar System, because thats where she lives. the Imperial Forces would *absolutely* fire at her, and things go poorly from there because very few IoM weapons are a threat to her but she can effortlessly wipe out their ships in response.

Nono loves humanity, but filtered through the lens of Noriko's spirit and ideals. Nono loves humanity, which is exactly why the brutal, cruel Imperium would horrify and disgust her.
"This is not what Nonoriri fought to save."

>space monsters
how fucking hackish can you get
even 'the reapers' of ME can say an attempt was made

>>96258523
In crossover stuff like Super Robot Wars where the term 'Uchuu Kaiju' (space monster) would be ambiguous, they are also known as the STMC.

>>96258523
oh I'm so sorry faggot, that calling the gigantic space monsters what they are is offensive to your baby bitch brain

>>96258835
>they are also known as the STMC

And what's that mean?

>>96234291
Don't the Necrons want to become human though? I could imagine such a display of power would only seal the deal.

>>96234669
They can if you constantly replace their cells, though admittedly living for eons would severely mess up their conception of time, especially if their minds are plain human.

>>96261055
They want to become fleshy again, but presumably re-fleshed as the Necrontyr, not humans.

>>96258523
One of the best aliens in cinema history was literally just "alien" for the first movie.

>>96261664
>One of the best aliens in cinema history was literally just "alien" for the first movie.
Hell, even the name "Xenomorph" is just "Alien Form"...

>>96145679 (OP)
Orkboyz will build a giant mekk, call it Gunbustah and pain it in red for extra speed. In case of doubt, always count on Orkz.

>>96255413
In last game we got revelation that even her Shikigami magic fucking sucks - Ran is completely free from Yukari's control and just keeps doing her job because she's fed up with beast realm bullshit. At any moment Ran could just leave or ignore Yukari's orders.

>>96261726
Kill yourself ND

>>96236802
Superman gets bodied in 5 seconds by demonbane

>>96261073
>they can if you do [inhuman bullshit]
Thank you for proving my point. The space squids in Gargantia are more human than any cuckstard.

>>96261929
As far as I can tell, the most notable way Yukari is good with "boundaries" is that she's excellent at skirting around the tempers of beings more powerful than herself - meddling in their affairs just enough to get what she wants, but not far enough for them to get mad and smite her for it.

>>96267431
The Maribel stories imply that Yukari's gaps are tapping into an invisible web of connections between places, with basically the same restrictions as the Nevernever portals in The Dresden Files (after Harry gets the amulet that can plot routes for him). And also that she can travel through time but in an uncontrollable way that's more like jumping into the timestream and getting swept away by the current.
Yukari only designed the Great Hakurei Barrier rather than constructing it, and it's implied that she did this by reverse-engineering the barrier around the Lunar Capital. At this point it seems like she's actually the weakest of the youkai sages in terms of raw power.

>>96163582
>Halo
Halo is such a lolcow franchise. I dunno how I used to be so invested in it.

>>96148341
Star Trek is better suited for Mystery and adventure games than war games.

>>96252317
>let alone feed off one.
really, that’s the easy part. not a single nid tried evolving chlorophyll?

>>96152462
>”heh that looks gay the chaos gods could simply wish it into unexistence...”
six guardians from destiny could take down prime tzeentch btw

>>96267946
Tzeentch would make himself only weak to a weapon they have to paypig out loads of $$$$ for

>>96268003
Nah only the starter gun. That would be funnier.

>>96267703
>I dunno how I used to be so invested in it.
Because Halos 1,2,3 & ODST are legitimately good.

>>96267946
Guardians are cheating, because in an exalted-like way they drag their enemy kicking and screaming into their rules.

"I AM A COSMIC FORCE OF INCOMPREHENSIBLE SCOPE AND POWER! EVERY MEMORY AND THOUGHT THAT ANY LIVING THING HAS EVER HAD IS BUT A DROP OF WATER IN THE OCEAN THAT IS ME. I BREATHE, AND THE UNIVERSE- the fuck is that above my head?"
"Thats a health bar. I'm going to shoot you with this gun now."
"But that doesn't make any sense. I don't even have a physical form."
"You do now. Lets see what loot you drop when you die. I hope its a unique shader..."

>>96271365
Chaos gods always cheat, not Guardians fault they're better at it and have a track record of successfully permakilling sentient concepts

>>96267574
It feels to me while Yukari's ability has the highest ceiling of abuse, it also something that can very easily erase her sense of self and cause her to zero-sum if used wrong. Thus, while in theory she's very powerful in the same way Ned your neighbor would be very powerful if he had the world's nuclear weapon stockpile in his backyard, her ability to tap into that power is limited to the point she deliberately keeps the glaring limitations hidden at all costs to keep the bluff up.

>>96163582
To be fair, the sweats in space battles have calculated the Covenant to be about on par with the main civilization in BOLO which is no slouch in ability, it's just they use that technology in backwards ways.

>>96274370
That tracks lorewise as well, in that the Covenant is using technology recovered from a quite powerful fallen galactic precusor civilization, but since they didn't invent any of it themselves they don't really understand it well. The entire reason that Cortana is able to run rings around covenant tech is that they don't even have AI, despite humanity in theory being way behind them in technology, because the covies have gaps in their tech tree big enough to drive a tank through.

When they have the right forerunner tool for the job, they are terrifying. But if you ask them to get creative about it, they do a comedy pratfall.

>>96267791
speak for yourself. my command crew are all ol' warhorses on a top of the line freshly built, freshly refit battleship excelsior-B battlewagon. and we're doing the shackleton expanse campaign. SO FAR shooting things has been a smashing success.