Thread 96153257

Why doesn't Games Workshop just consolidate these lines into a new, original fantasy game?
Pros:
>easier and more efficient to manage
>no need to try and keep ranged separate
>keep the best parts from both settings
>get rid of annoying maniac fans who can't hear about 1 game without complaining

>>96153257 (OP)
They need to big time. They succeeded in taking one game that sold poorly and turning it into two games that sell poorly.

One game looks like some MOBA corporate shite. The other is filled with old fa/tg/uys that like to complain. Neither of these are that appealing.

80% of all new AOS releases go straight into the trash. It sells so much worse than even an angry grog would have you believe. Those new chorfs? They are going to be tossed into the trash, 4 weeks after release at your local GW.

Pic related. No one is going to buy this shit.

No the two game communities are fundamentally incompatible with each other

Age of Sigmar players tend to be younger, lower IQ and more impulsive. The "game" is just rolling dice and knocking models over, nobody even knows the rules (besides pretending to be on a horse or something, an event everyone at an LGS has observed at least once). They don't care about narrative or even wargaming, they just view it as a quirky board game, or just like playing with toy soldiers. I saw some just knocking each other's models down and arguing "nuh uh my guy shot your guy first!" It's a children's pastime that some mentally ill adults also partake in

Old World is an actual wargame with decades of history and centuries of lore. You can make truly compelling narratives around dynamic games fueled by a beautifully crafted set of rules that inspire real stories and real strategic depth. Models are often painted and played in private clubs and cigar houses rather than the brick and mortar obese glue traps of an LGS.

Combine both and the Old World fans would go back to historical wargaming and other productive uses of time. Sigmar players wouldn't even notice anything different, just more boxes to buy and post online

>>96153370
it would be pretty funny though

>>96153370
>Old World
>compelling narratives
>real strategic depth
>cigar houses
Gr8 b8 I r8 8/8

>>96153370
Isn't TOW just knocking models but with square bases?

>>96153257 (OP)
Cancelling AoS would lead to mass trans suicides across the world. GW can’t take away trannies favourite safe space setting.

>>96156962
this

>>96156993
Thats a 40k table so I dont see how thats relevant.

>>96153257 (OP)
different aesthetics. ones more high fantasy, ones more mid fantasy

>>96157004
thats what he said, AoS.

>>96157019
>iron hands shirt
Im really not following what you're putting down.

>>96153257 (OP)
>>keep the best parts from both settings
You can't when the best parts of both setting s are mutually exclusive anon. One's a planar high fantasy setting where the aesthetics are purely fantastical where as another is a more grounded physical world where the asthetics are a mix of fantasy and historical cultures. It's like trying to take middle earth and fuse it with plane scape.

>>96153370
>Old World is an actual wargame with decades of history and centuries of lore. You can make truly compelling narratives around dynamic games fueled by a beautifully crafted set of rules that inspire real stories and real strategic depth. Models are often painted and played in private clubs and cigar houses rather than the brick and mortar obese glue traps of an LGS.
Lol.
Lmao.
I've been to some wfb game nights. By "private clubs" you mean shitty basements and dying lgs (private does not mean unpopular) and by "cigar houses" you mean unwashed and smelly musk from fat spergs.

I dont know how AoS games look like, but a pig in a mud stained tuxedo stewing in filth is more sophisticated than the fanciest WFB gaming spot. And the game is unbelievably boring with blocks of copy paste minis timidly meeting each other in the middle of an empty green table until one side arbitrarily wins.

Behold! An epic battle with truly compelling narratives!
Disgusting grogs disgusts me.

>>96157259
Anon did you post the wrong pic or did you intend to post SOVL?

>>96157259
>AoS fan pretends not to be an AoS fan very badly.
this is like some terrible bait

>>96153257 (OP)
Because the fluff and rules are incompatible and they appeal to different people.

>>96157259
I see an empire army defending the manor of their lord from an invading chaos force coming from the woods, on a cool, fully painted and flocked table. Incredibly kino, a classic narrative and visually appealing table despite the minimalism.
What do Age of Sigmar tables look like again? Oh wait...

>>96153257 (OP)
>kill fantasy for AoS to exist
>cripple AoS to bring back fantasy
>kill both to make a mutant hybrid
That would be so ficking funny.

>>96153343
>>96157802
This entire mess can be traced back to whoever had the bright fucking idea of letting video game companies make games about WHF and reviving interest in it, instead of making FUCKING AOS GAMES TO PUSH YOUR NEW SETTING.

I can't put into words the level of self-sabotage this is. Expose a new generation of people to your dead setting and have them find out that it got nuked, then feel forced to revive it and get this whole mess started.

>>96158245
Fantasy always was and continues to be a more popular mainstream setting compare to AoS. A decade of corporate pushes has produces less than little mainstream interest in AoS, its lore and its characters. Game devs want to make Fantasy games because Fantasy games sell. Here's the biggest budget AoS game in history.

>>96153370
Nah, anyone who was serious moved on to real wargames like ADLG a long time ago.

Base removal cannot be part of a serious wargame either.

Accept your shitty containment game if you are unable to grow.

>>96153257 (OP)
Simple.

The Old World is a Rank-And-Flank Wargame loosely set in an early Renaissance fantasy world with extremely high power magitech and general magic stuff hiding in the wings of the singular world.

Age of Sigmar is a Tactical Wargame set in an extremely High Fantasy setting where gods walk on the world and both raise and forge armies by their own hands across an array of places that just outright planes of magic rather than a physical world.

Trying to combine them would give the same issues as trying to combine Lord of The Rings and D&D's Forgotten Realms. There might be some commonalities on the surface like Hobbits and Halflings, but when you go past the general "Fantasy Aesthetic", they are drastically different things.

>>96153343
Looks chinesse.

>>96153257 (OP)
It will never happen because TOW/WHF widows hates everything. They want to play the same 80 year old game without changes (in story or armies). They hate Cathay because "is not warhammer enough", they hate women and no-white characters, all the AoS miniatures are overdesigned, if there is more than 1 big centerpiece the game is ruined, if GW paint an army with a diferent color scheme its ruined, etc. The 30 crybabies who play TOW/WHF are just miserable creatures full of hate. Their lives are so sad, they must create the same thread about black female dwarves every weak and spam their hate comments in AoS threads and in theirs.

>>96153370
hahahaha, you got me for a second anon. Well played.

TOW/WHF compelling narratives, strategic depth, good miniatures, hahaha

>>96159678
Why are AoS fans so bitter and angry all the time?

>>96159678
You sound very insecure. It’s ok lil bro. AoS being GW’s fourth game isn’t a bad spot to be.

>>96156993
That is an interesting guy to represent an AoS fanbase with, given that he's wearing an Iron Warriors t-shirt, using 40k terrain and there isn't a single AoS miniature in sight

>>96159694
>>96159696
I dont know, you tell me. You still angry because your game died so everything AoS does is bad. But thats ok, now you have TOW so the 30 players in the whole world can play together and buy the 30 years old lead ugly miniatures 3 times the price. But i think thats not enough, you still bitter and spam about it all the time.

>>96159696
The delusion is strong in this one. TOW players still think they are something, pffftt. You will never appear in any graphic and your "tournaments" are just for 20 people because nobody play it.

>>96159755
Most surprising for me is seeing Warmachine there

>>96159755
This image only charts sales reported, voluntarily, by non-chain, single location stores in some locations in north America.

>>96153257 (OP)
Or they could just bin gays of shitmar and go with the better setting.

>>96159678
i know, god forbid people want a fantasy game and not “what if we took wood elves literally?”

>>96159868
They should kill TOW/WHF again because nobody plays it. People plays more Warhammer Underworlds than TOW

>>96153370
most of the lore from WHFB didnt happen in TOW yet so your point is moot.

Perhaps we should stop playing Age of Slopmar and The Old Slop, and instead play MESBG but with only the old models and the many proxies out there. It has many kino models and lore to satisfy the oldtards, it has round bases with individual model-on-model action to interest the zoomtards, and it is a white man's game that will calm down the /pol/tards and summer tourists.

>>96159755
>America
Opinion discarded, consider suicide for hailing from an inferior country.

>>96157773
thats old AoS though

>>96159923
pretty bad time to get into MESBG with entire ranges getting squatted or replaced with anime designs

>>96159940
>anime designs
thats based though

I really don't understand why WHFB fags are still seething. You got your game back. What's the problem?

>>96159961
its the legacy faction fags that are seething the most.

>>96159979
I can sorta sympathize as it will take a long time for AoS ranges to refresh so their models can go back to Old World

>>96158245
>instead of making FUCKING AOS GAMES TO PUSH YOUR NEW SETTING.
Unironically not an AoS hater but what new setting?
Factions sure, but the setting itself is last I checked an amorphous blob even by vague wargame standards.

>>96159940
>anime designs
Fuck, if only. I would have goddamn loved for the Hera model to look as good as she does in the anime. Maybe a very skilled painter can save it, but I doubt it. The other movie models are pretty good though, like the heroes from the war of the rohirrim set.

>>96159961
They never wanted their game "back" (because it never actually left). It's never been about actually playing WHFB or even getting new models. The grogs were seething long before the end times and aos actually happened. It's always been about nostalgia and being young again. If it'd actually been about WHFB, they could have just kept on trucking and playing whatever their favorite edition was. But that's not what the endless, constant grog seething over AoS is about. It's just grogs or fake grogs pining for when things made sense and they had free time and were young and could have fun.

>>96157773
I mean, that always depends on the games you play. Tournament shit will always look awful.

>>96153257 (OP)
I'd just keep the good parts from both:
Everything from Fantasy and nothing from smegmar

>>96158245
The game wasn't great but Realms of Ruin did more to interest me in Stormcast than literally anything else GW have put out there just because they made them have personalities and had good voice acting.

>>96159935
Oh my bad, here’s current AoS: >>96156993

>>96160906
I always recommend the Realms of Ruin singleplayer campaign to people. You can get it for like a buck on keyseller sites and the campaign is a legitimately good RTS campaign with some great characters and fun missions. Also, the Tzeentchians are super cool and properly twisted and weird in the game.

>>96159961
I really don’t understand why Age of Shitmar tards are still constantly trying to tell people how much better it is than WHFB. You’d think theyd be painting their much superior minis or playing but all they do is poast about how much better it is without actually indulging in it

>>96160906
>>96161042
Realms of Ruin was a mega flop that proved to vidya companies that no one should ever touch the AoS setting for their games as it is market poison.