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>>96157668 (OP)

>>96157683

Could you post Royal Revival bros?

>>96157679
Is 10 the max in a stat?

>>96157779
Yes.
>10.25
A typo. It's supposed to be 9.25. The author never fixed the typo after all these years.

>>96157810
so much shit gives battle and intellect but not much gives other stats without some kind of horrible downside... if I can't go beyond 10 what the fuck is the point...

>>96157833
to cum faster

>>96157833
jobber~

>>96157769
https://imgchest.com/p/9ryd6wlzd7k

>>96157844
>>96157846
what the fuck is this trash invasion?

>>96157872
Discord faggots have been trying to undermine the /cyoag/ for months now. Best to ignore their off-topic ERP faggotry.

>>96157668 (OP)
Normal cyoas make you rack your brain to get enough points for options you want. This cyoa makes you rack your brain to NOT get too many points lest they are cast into the void, wasted.

>>96157882
Incredible that they never remove the thread wide offtopic physics arguments yet they remove any nsfw talk, lmao

>>96157990
You did read that you need 16 points to go from 1 to 10 in a stat ?

>>96158080
>the only thing that gets deleted is boobs and making fun of aro
Really makes one ponder

>>96157668 (OP)
>Form:
Beast

>Role:
Mage

>Stats:
Defense: 6
Strength: 4
Battle: 5
Tolerance: 2
Speed: 7
Intellect: 10
Stamina: 10
Magic: 10

>Legends:
Alter Form, Priest, Sacker of Cities, Smithing, Summoning, Dulled Pleasure

Finally, I have made a build with 10 in Stamina and Magic, allowing me to spam grand magic endlessly and boost my stats forever.

Battle, Intelligence, and Magic are everywhere while Stamina is sparce. It was very difficult to avoid getting any Battle, not overflow in Intelligence, and get Stamina to 10.

What do the attributes do, exactly? What is 4 strength? 5 intelligence? 7 skill?

>>96158355

>>96158355
4 strength is stronger than 3 strength.

>>96158364

https://imgchest.com/p/m9yx8pbpk7q

>>96158386
Curses seems underrated to me. In a setting where being outed for using Dark magic would get you killed or worse, the most subtle Dark magic would let you actually USE your magic most often.

>>96158386
Question: Is pact magic not dark magic and thus safe to use around luminaries?

>>96158431
Question: Are you retarded?

>>96158355
I made an intrigue build for this that was basically an innocent shouta focused on healing while pretending to be a newfag LFP. However, he has a dragonform that serves as alternate identity with the opposite personality as him, which he uses to hunt when solo. I don't know what it would be useful for though, lol.

>>96158443
shota*

>>96158443
How did he deal with the piss bomber?

>>96158474
I didn't know it was multiplayer? I guess it would depend on how arcane barriers work.

>>96158497
>He doesn't know
Poor shota-kun.

Not everyone posts on jumpchain, anon.

>>96158386
Someone asked for a build list a few threads ago. I've probably missed a few, but here's what I found:

Blah: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96146057/#q96147604
Golden Knight: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220/#q96141833
Floating Guns: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220/#q96141194
Kirei: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#q96131242
Bubble Man: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#q96129336
Physical Guardian: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#q96128709
Actual Musician: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#96127767
Corporate Insider: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96109691/#q96115281
Teleporting Assassin: >>96097239
Ordinary Salesman: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96101533#96101887
Vampire Monstergirl: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96146057#96147850
Ambush Predator: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96146057#96150404
Napoleonic Sniper: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220#96140324
Magical Boy Horrible Sea Urchin Monstrosity: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220#96141521
Magical Guy: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626#96134947
Dark Sovereign: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96109691#96114770
Keep Practicing: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96116898#96118455
Tok: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96109691#96113586
Be Me, Wagie: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96092845#96100066
Cute Wizard: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96101533#96101914
Defense Penetration: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96092845#96096723

>>96158557
The link for the teleporting assassin: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96092845#96097239

>>96158557
>homosexual watch list
Thank you for your service

>>96158557
>the amount of builds using bio-shifting
why are guys like this

>>96158578
They think they can bio-shift themselves a bigger dick.

is that you? matterheroine?????

>>96158355
>Class:
Sorcerer

>Stats:
Strength: 2
Defense: 5
Agility: 4
Intelligence: 15
Skill: 3

>Blessing:
Stats

>Skills:
Magical: Finesse, Spellsurge, Arcane, Detect Magic, Combine, Mana Sphere, Barrier, Warp
Ethereal: Indomitable, Recall, Pocketing, Unleash, Premonition, Healing

>Terrains:
Twilight Ruins, Twilight Desert

To maximize magical loot. I'm more of a treasure hunter than a monster hunter.

>Persona:
Age, Beauty, Exempt

>Resources:
Forge, Library, Alchemy, Market, Healing, Training, Fortune, Map, Diner, Bounty, Underground

5 leftover tribute points for gold.

Before my first hunting trip, I'll take training lessons to learn Catalysts, Blink, and Marksmanship (for spells only).

>>96158578
Lots of them were likely circumcised at birth. Please understand their plight, anon.

>>96158578
>Pick Male
>Add bioshifting
>Nobody will know

>>96158386
>Remember the perfect pic for my implement
>Can no longer find it

>>96158578
Honestly a waste since we get an ideal body from the get go.

>>96158355
Ye I never played this because the stats bothered me

>>96158501
*Vietnam flashbacks* it was truly one of the first and worst PVP spergouts here and the author repeatedly pissed gasoline on the flames.

>>96158443
Anime?

Discordtroons, tell me how reverse isekai light whatever is coming along. Is it good? when will it come out?

>>96158587
You are honestly insane.

>>96158887
I haven't told them anything, but like I said last thread it's not going as well as I would like. As an estimate, the races are 95% done, the follower types ~30%. At this rate I should be able to finish page 2 this month, but I don't think I will complete the third one by that time.

>>96158923
1 more month, then?

>>96158927
Probably in August, yeah.

>>96158578
>amount of builds using bio-shifting
>why are guys like this
It's one of the few schools that will let (you) build an army, and has a lot of personal combat potential as well. Probably a good bit of healing, too.

Alternate thesis - we've got a lot of VtM players who really like the Tzimisce clan of vampires.

>>96158942
That's me. Them and Gangrels. But I didn't pick it in this CYOA because I went ranged.

>>96158576
Shitposter-sama...

>>96158557
You randomly name the picture you downloaded something quickly and easily and now your build name will forever be called Blah.

Ah, how that cookies crumbles lol.

Alright boys and girls, I think it's time we ask ourselves an important question.

Do we want Rake to:

A. do an update to Luminary.

or

B. Make a sequel.

Tell me your answers. Cuz we want more but *how* do we want more?

Hey! Become a Villain!

>>96159127

>>96159134

>>96159138

>>96159143

>>96159145

>>96158386
What is appealing about this?

>>96159148
Magical girls.

>>96158386
Forgive me rake... I still cannot think of a good ultimate so I cannot update my luminary build for now... and I'm leaving for a week to go camping...

>CYOA where people suddenly gain divine powers to fight aliens.
>You are meant to be the most powerful one but the moment you got your powers you got I to an accident that sent you to the future.
>Now the world is in the brink of destruction and even the gods that gave you powers fell silent a while ago as the war stretched on for millenia.
>No one knows you were meant to be the Gigachad godking of the gods and have to deal with everything being seen as a weirdly powerful newbie.
How does this sound?

>>96159127
High-Tier
Human
No Powers
The Boss
Company -4

Practical Skills -1
Secret Identity -1
Doctorate -2
Sexy -1

Super Powered Henchmen x3
Mercenaries x3
Perfect Aim and Peak-Form -6

Three dark-haired sexy ninja/assassin/Hitman ladies that are on-par with most supers. Plus, they're loyal—time to do Legal Crime and get away with it.

>>96159335
Wouldn't their view of you change the moment you show off your power?

>>96159366
Yeah you are seen as werdly powerful for a newbie.
As all of you can grow in power with training.
Originally you would have been clearly much more powerful than anyone else but because so much time has passed there are many more powerful than you that have spent hundreds of years becoming stronger even if they started out much weaker than you.
And this strangeness also shapes how the characters will see you some with hope others as a threat to the current power structure that has to be crushed before you bring down the system that keeps people alive.

>>96157668 (OP)
I.C. Wiener

>>96157855
aieeee the map should be posted before everything goes to shit

>>96159503
Makes sense. Changed.

>>96159503
Absolutely ancient reminder that since Eclan has no coastline, they are ultimately doomed to poverty and irrelevancy like all land-locked countries.

>>96158355
>What do the attributes do, exactly?
more strength makes u better warrior
more defense makes u better tank
more agility makes u better rogue
more intelligence makes u better mage
more skill makes you better all around
5 is max on class stat bar so me thinks it's for peak humans

>>96159542
Try again in a setting without magic.

>>96159556
How does magic eliminate the need for trade? Eclan cannot engage with trade except with its direct neighbors, without said trade ultimately being under the direct control of said neighbor. If you, say, needed a resource from Flanere, then Murkin at the least will be able to heavily tax and even restrict or stop the import of this resource by Eclan. This is how countries become impoverished and lose wars. It's not like flying helps either, as that's going through Murkin's airspace, where they can be shot down easily.

>>96159542
It has giant river so it can trade with everyone on the map via smaller coast bound ships.

>>96159653
The giant river has to pass through Lotun and Clipsea's territory to reach the sea (which is far more valuable than upriver,) which can thus easily stop all of Eclan's trade. Eclan is at their mercy. Upriver trade can be stopped by Salns, Verend (which is obviously already doing that,) Enela, and Orchea. We have no idea what's beyond them if anything, it might just be mountains. You can't evade or sneak past river defenses like you can ocean patrols, it's too narrow for that.

>>96159542
>>96159572
Honestly probably true, water access is important. It does depend somewhat on what the greater world looks like however. If the world is not mostly water like our own, sea access becomes less important (though still important, if the meditterranean was blocked off at gibraltar it would still be massively helpful for trade).

Checking the map it looks like fantasy Switzerland, very defensive and surrounded by mountains, rivers and other nations. It does have two rivers that connect to the sea, one looking very large, so if navigable by boats that could be okay.

It also has three different nations (Welelah, Murkin and Paladia) between it and water so trade is not wholly under the control of one enemy nation either.

Still, the nation needs more living space and sea access must be secured for the future of our nation! Paladia is strong and rich and so can't be messed with. Welelah (whom the first river goes through) is a weaker mercantile country so they're probably the main trade partner and probably would not want to cut off trade to their wealthy powerful neighbor. The last option is Murkin, which is described as barren swamp no one cares about. Swamps do not tend to be infertile - the opposite actually - so getting our Netherlands on and developing polders and reclamation techniques would need considering.

Future actions would likely depend on the opinion of powerful Paladia and how happy they are with us expanding the realm into Welelah, vs what our surveys of Murkia indicate about the difficulty of taming the landscape. Honestly if Welelah *did* try to cut off trade that'd be a powerful cassus belli to use with Paladia and our own citizens ('we're not war mongering jerks, we have to take this country to prevent ourselves from being cut off again').

>>96159673
If we look at the map the likely course for the continent is likely to be:
>Paladia will eventually absorb the economically wealthy but militarily inferior coastal nations of Nelsland, Welelah, and Clipsea
>Flanere will ally with Lotun to resist Paladia
>Vinia will absorb the rural farmland of Orchea
>What happens with Eclan and other interior states is pretty much up to you
The future continental powers are going to be Paladia and to a lesser extent Vinia, purely based on their positions and military opportunity. Eclan just isn't positioned to do much, unless you marry Victor in personal union and become part of Paladia. That's really the only opportunity for female players, while the best males can do is get an easier conquest of Verend,which is an interior country and thus has poor prospects long term as well. At least you'd still be Eclan, though. Your other marriage opportunities, male or female, are lesser princes/princesses not in line to inherit, except for Hadew's (which is an even weaker nation in an even worse interior position,) since if I remember right Flanere's has an older brother. So Eclan doesn't really have any opportunities to expand via marriage, only submit to Paladia or annex Verend, which has no sea.
>Murkin
Male character's can marry a vinefolk chieftess, who are effectively rulers of this region. So theoretically you could unify the country through her (though this'd take work since she's ONLY a chieftess.) They still don't have sea access, though. Female players unfortunately only get a stone golem who 'rules' a bunch of ruins that are already in Eclan though, so sadly they don't get that kind of opportunity at all, he's pretty useless.

imagine if physicsfag met geographyfag

Any CYOAs in the vain of "A New Job," "Urban Unease," Boon of Mutations," "Home Intruder," "Nightmare Waifu," "Mental Illness Quest," "Supernatural Investigator," "A Night Run." or "A Night Ride"? Something esoteric/cosmic/melancholy/slight horror etc. At most 3 pages, if not it has to be REALL good like "The Hospital" or "Mansion of Many." Something I can play some lofi/dreamcore and it matches.

>>96159542
My love for Teresa will win anyway.

>>96159805
This is more about the trajectory of the country itself long after you two are dead.

https://imgchest.com/p/6eyrmere64p

>>96159817
>dying
That's on you

>>96159822
>Haven't made a build for this in over 2 years
Maybe it's that time again...

>>96158386
I feel like all the Dark schools are rather bad for ranged builds except Aero which I don't personally like. These are all about minions or melee.

>>96159779
https://imgchest.com/p/9p4nlxpm7nq

>>96159845
>These are all about minions or melee.
edgelords in a nutshell

>>96159779
I miss these urban fantasy/horror CYOAs. There's something comfy about playing them. Probably because I like survival horror games.

>>96159862
high res

https://imgchest.com/p/a84658xlgyx

>>96159862
high res

https://imgchest.com/p/a84658xlgyx

>>96159779
Haunted Home Improvement
Wanderer of Broken Worlds
Eldritch Royalty
Clock Keeper
Heir to Wizardtown (maybe)

Or for something longer, A Quiet Cyoa, Beyond the Doors, or maybe something out of Henderson or Yog-sothoth's author folders.

(Fir something really long, try Love Azathoth or Lavender)

>>96159951

>>96159845
>laughs in Space.

>>96159572
Looking at the Crystal Conduits, Eclan's halfway to having stable warp gates. Once you've got the fantasy equivalent of teleporters, is sea access really that important? Particularly since we can't rule out the existence of an Underdark/Hollow Earth scenario?

>>96159845
>Somehow Celerity, Space, Time, Illusion cannot be used to assist ranged builds
>FIRE IS ALSO THERE

>>96159542
You again? It has been years but you didn't learned?

>>96159966
Space and time are always cheat schools.

>>96160050
>anon
>changing their stance on ANYTHING

>>96158355
How are noobs supposed to compete in the Culling without getting instaganked by older Hunters that have tons of PvP experience? The author who made this really didn't think it through.

>>96160133
You're not supposed to compete. You're supposed to hide by digging a hole or something for the whole thing. At least that's what I think makes the most sense for "survival".

Anyway, just pay the exemption tax to be safe.

>>96160133
There were literally years of arguments about it, and bliss was never willing to change it.

>>96160133
first pasille and now this istg we're invaded by newfags

>>96160152
How do you know I'm not just repeating the same old questions I asked a dozen times before? What if I've been stuck in the /cyoag/ time abyss for years and years?

>>96160133
lmao skill issue once again

>>96160133
Is there any incentive to killing people during the Culling? If there isn't then why would anyone attack each other, it just guarantees that that the friends of whoever you killed will try hunting you down in every future Culling. Only a handful of sociopaths would do it.

>>96158386
Male
Outfit: Subdued
Implement: Blunt
Specialties: Lightning, Space
Magic: Spirit Novice, Physicality Novice, Tech Novice, Aero Novice, Celerity Novice
Quirks: Expanded Soul Space, Nocturnal, Danger Sense
Ultimate Art: Domain (Space, as in literally empty space which disorients enemies and makes them float around helplessly)
Patrons: Gaia
Day Job: Official
Contacts: Junko, Yue, Iris
Missions: Abyss Spawn, Death-Squad Cleanup

"Nobody knows what he is doing. I guess not even he knows what he is doing. Aside from studying and training magic. For which his talents are in Spirit and Tech, judging from his choosing Junko and Iris as tutors. He also tries to learn from Yue but has no obvious talent for her Earth magic.
Whenever he does actually go fight the dark he works best as support, setting up some shields and then just firing a whole lot of guns he pulls from nowhere. And when the monsters get close he hits them with everything from knives and woodaxes also pulled from nowhere to uprooted streetlights. After all this time I don't even know what his actual implement is."

Misdirection is the name of my long game. Nothing to see here, just a rookie sleepless who uses Spirit and Tech magic. Picking my fights and never openly showing my Space magic while using Physicality, Aero and Celerity only subtly. Lightning trained from Sera is my big gun for when I absolutely have to use it, otherwise it is stealth with mostly mundane weapons either store-bought or created by Tech (Novice Tech can create swords and guns right?). My power will grow very slowly and I will be hiding most of it as best as I can, but I have more than enough time and no needs to fulfill. I probably do not even need a day job or official papers since I do not require a residence to sleep in or much anything else.

>>96158557
>Build list for btg trash but not for Isekai Dark Overlord
How the fuck did MiCha lose to this aieeee I'm going fucking insane

>>96160328
I was not affected by the update aside from choosing a specialisation and having more variety in pretty much everything.But the whining shitposters really killed the discussion for me and made me not want to post my updated build. No sense in doing that if the only thing you hear is "waaah you immediately die because you don't have hundreds of behemoths at start and the whole world converges in a tri-goddess coalition to kill specifically you".

>>96160328
Micha is a no fun faggot that hates his players. Isekai dark overlord update has easily been the hardest flop of the year.

>>96159966
In space no one can hear you laugh....

>>96158386
I might make a build later, but looking at it doesn't every specialization make the rest redundant? They all mention how you can literally kill people with a thought and blow away cities with your spells, at the end of the day they all do the same thing outside a few choices and it mentions a lot of time how you are practically impervious to damage even St your regular outfit.

>>96160371
>shitposters really killed the discussion for me and made me not want to post my updated build
One one hand that's understandable, but on the other hand if screaming retards form majority of the feedback, it lowers the chance of there being any more OC.

>>96160328
The funniest thing is he had it mostly fine, fucked it up last second through last second nerfs, then refused to spend the 10 minutes it would have taken to fix 90% of the issues with the cyoa.

>>96160371
I just came back here and saw it, what did the update actually do that made people mad?
Is it another people complaining that the obviously not intended broken choice got nerfed or was it something else?

>>96160411
>everyone takes elitist because of how strong enemies are
>15 points being 20% of the total units at a baseline was already tauted by lots of people as not enough
>self-admittedly fix point issue while adding new content
>last second choose to double most elite costs on top of increasing cost to core medium units
>anons either got no new points or actively lost points on builds
>fix almost nothing anyone disliked
>don't fix power scaling which was why everyone took elitist in the first place
If he hadn't nerfed points last second I think many anons could have overlooked stuff like the power scaling. But fixing NOTHING and just making the experience worse for basically everyone was fucked up.

>>96158386
Sex: Male
Outfit: Witch-like (Spirit)
Implement: Staff
Speciality: Radiant
School: Spirit (Master) - might permit going without sleep or air?
School: Tech (Master)
Dark Speciality: Space
Quirk: Large Reserves
Quirk: Soulmate - not the most efficient choice, but life isn't about combat. Really has to be another Luminary, though, as otherwise our lives would be too separate to make a relationship work.
Quirk: Gifted

>>96160431
You don't understand! He added a paragraph explaining magic! Like anyone other than one magicwhiner anon cares about a hard explanation for magic.

>>96160448
Ultimate Art: Continuous - "Destined Victory": a combination of spatial manipulation and my other schools to create a large zone of effects that help my allies and hinder my enemies, such as homing attacks for allies and anti-homing for enemies (Space), healing friends and possibly harming foes (Spirit), empowering friendly objects and sabotaging enemy ones (Tech), and using shielded hardlight to protect friends and block foes (Spirit + Radiant), as well as flashbangs, blinding auras, and possibly incinerating mundane targets (Radiant). None of this has to be massive - a hardlight pebble in the right place is worth a lot, as is a lack of fatigue, and an attack doesn't have to turn 90 degrees for homing to be effective. What makes this an Art as opposed to simply something I do with my magic is that it is largely automated, based on a semi-conscious thread of thought using constant Space-based scrying to scan for things of importance, and responding with appropriate minor uses of magic, meaning that I have some degree of awareness of everything it sees and does. Its origins as a form of spatial manipulation make it appear as a blob of magic encompassing everything and everyone within its zone without distinction, making it nigh-impossible to track its origin by traditional means. This zone is strongly non-uniform to avoid revealing its source, and I would only feed it magic when transformed, meaning it would run off of energy stored in its structure otherwise.
Patron: Gaia
Patron: Remial
Patron: Urist
Occupation: Law - Corporate would seem attractive here for making Destined Victory more effective, but that limits me to one target at a time and risks revealing me. My Patrons make me talented at law, and Spirit can ensure any friendly witnesses are at their best, so I can do more good there.
Contact: Marael
Contact: Junko
Contact: Yue
Missions: All

>>96160451
I am highly effective in direct combat due to high evasion (Space), high durability (Tech for armor, Radiant for hardlight, and Spirit for barriers) and extreme offense (Space + Radiant allowing for distance manipulation and absurd homing of high-damage beams, plus enhanced penetration to destroy a target from the inside). However, I presume this consumes energy fast, making Destined Victory and Tech-created drones a requirement for any sort of sustained conflict. I can hide my Dark speciality by only using it in combination with Light effects, making it look like a form of range extension and/or part of my Ultimate Art, which do break the rules a bit on their own. Teleportation can be disguised as Radiant-based by using flashes of light, and otherwise I just use Space in ways that make me look strong and skilled, but are fundamentally ordinary for Luminaries.

Despite that, the core of my build is Destined Victory, which can cause significant or even critical damage to the Corporations simply by targeting their facilities for a while. Serious equipment is both expensive and fragile, and I could do billions of dollars in damage in minutes, depending on the particulars of a location. This isn't a war to be won in pitched battle, but in undermining the enemy's ability to wage war.

My goal is to put down the creatures of Dark and the traitors who serve them, while also unshackling Luminaries and ensuring humanity won't become slaves to the Light, either, though a peaceful relationship with Light-aligned beings would be preferable.

>>96160451
>ultimate
>continuous utility aura of "do anything I want"
>no picture shopping list build
This is a reddicord build isn't it

>>96160451
This is just Curse with extra steps?

>>96160411
>>96160431
From what I gather it was mostly the elite stuff.
As I mentioned, my build was not affected by that. I picked two different races, had two of my units renamed and added two additional units. My overall strategy is still the same and the only problem I can foresee is the addendum at the very end: that the cataclysm's damage will recover given enough time, allowing the goddesses to use their full might in the world again.

>>96158386
Why the fuck is technology not dark magic? Isn't the coorpos using techmagic?

>>96160463
Yes, but I don't like Curse. For some reason, probability manipulation bugs me, even though I want similar results.

It's fair to say that I effectively discarded an Ultimate Art for an additional Master school. It's weaker than curse in a few ways, but stronger in others, plus it gives more selectivity.

The build would be better if I dropped Tech for Curse and changed its Ultimate Art, but as I said, I don't like it. Also, Curse can't have positive effects until it reaches Master rank, which would take a while.

>>96160521
The magic selections don't make sense.

>>96160165
>You're here forever
>Short-term amnesia ensures it
Grim.

>>96160450
>hard explanation for magic.
Can't SOLVE the cyoa if some things are left up to interpretation.

>>96160657
Just take elitist like everyone else.

Did Luminary ever get the update?

>>96160673
>do the build I want
>styled on by the One True Build

>do the One True Build
>people say it's not my adventure

You can't win.

>>96160693
...I'll assume you're talking about Husanon's - no.

>>96160694
>One True Build
What's that? Can't you write any build as 'winning' a cyoa and accomplishing its goal?

>>96160694
>styled on by the One True Build
It's not a PvP anon, do whatever the fuck you want with your build. People who read your build and start presenting hypothetical cases where your build wouldn't work (and thus, is inferior to theirs in their mind) should really get better things to do.

>>96160694
don't make shitty builds simple as

>>96160758
>S-Sorry Anon, I try but-
>THE FUCK IS THAT POINT BALANCE?!
>Sometimes I get those urges...
>MY BUILD COULD BEAT UP YOUR BUILD IN A FIGHT
>And they're harder to curb without fresh content...
>RAKE TROONED OUT SHITALICS NEVER EVER HUSANON RAN AWAY AROMAGE PLEASE SAVE ME DRAGONFALL WAS GOOD WAIFUCHADS RULE THE THREAD
>The power of light keep my autism at bay though.
>WOMEN ARE MORE MAGICAL THAN MEN AND DARKNESS DOESN'T EXIST YOU MOUTHBREATHERS

In my head, this is the mental state of our shitposters.

>>96160841
would

>>96160431
The fact even dedicated hypefags like softie completely abandoned it tells you how shit it was

>>96160922
They'll come back for the update...

>>96160952
That was the update :)

>>96160958
I have seen no one post it here so it doesn't count.

>>96158386
There are some trap options in the CYOA and the author isn't even trying to hide them.

>Quickened Spells
You cast spells faster, but winning fights is about magical strength and having tons of magical energy so go and pick something that gives you more mana dummy.

>Hungry Magic
This lets you draw upon ambient magical energy to boost your magical reserves. But unfortunately this is just an inferior option to large reserves, choose again idiot.

>Shrouded Magic
Magic leaves traces normally, but your magic doesn't. However, determined trackers can still track you so you are stupid for choosing this option.

>>96160975
>actual coping
Grim

>>96160958
It wasn't real.

>>96158386
>Gender
Male
>Outfit
Witch-Like
>Implement
Staff

>Aptitude
Flora (Specialized)
Spirit (Master)
Psychic (Master)
Pact (Specialized) (Familiar is a monstrous black with dark violet markings violet-like serpent)
>Traits
Large Reserves
Gifted
Nocturnal
>Ultimate Art
Continuous - Verdant Dominion
Nature itself tries to aid the user, responding to their will. The user's Flora magic seems to have a will of it's own, being autonomous and efficient, responding to their will and unspoken commands. Mushrooms sprout, flowers bloom, brambles reach and any plethora of other effects that the user would want are possible with a thought, and sometimes without, the magic attempting to be as helpful as possible. A curious side effect to this power is that animals and spirits associated with nature tend to respect and become more amiable to the user.

>Patrons
Gaia
>Day Job
Official
>Contacts
Klaus
Junko
Iris
>Missions
(All)

I struggled a lot to come up with an ultimate, and settled on this one. I don't really think i'm satisfied with it, but I wanted to at least get an updated build out for the new version. Same plan as before, i'm not necessarily on the side of light but I am absolutely against the corps and the evil in society. I serve as potent support, being capable of a staggering variety of effects through flora, pacts and supporting with spirit.

I chose my companions because I felt I could get along with them, Klaus could be a good friend, Junko needs a guide, and Iris feels a lot like me, all of them could be good allies to have. I'd probably bounce between teams and mentoring or helping people out, and I imagine the missions are in someehat chronological order, maybe with minor missions and training and stuff inbetween. I'm going to try to help people as best as possible, removing the devices instead of killing them, forcing the mental spirit out, etc.

I'll do my best. The world will become better, even if I must use force to make it so.

>>96160922
Softie will come back. Our shitposters are persistent. Believe it.

>>96161118
*Familiar is a monstrous black with dark violet markings serpent

>>96160976
>Quickened Spells
not a trap: speed is just as important as magical strength or mana pool.
Having the first move and being able to attack before the enemy has a chance to defend themselves is very useful depending on the build
>INB4 "just take celerity"
the description of quickened spell already states that casting speed is a metaphysical speed, just because you move or think faster doesn't make you cast spell faster

>Hungry Magic
kind of a trap: it is mostly useless but in the rare places with leylines you might as well have near infinite mana, its the kind of quirk that is amazing to have in very specific places/situations but then again most of the time its just doing very little to help

>Shrouded Magic
trap option: very situational and very weak since you can still be tracked

I will also add as traps:
>Utility Spells
'oh yes I always wanted to clean the dishes instead of having an actually useful option' said noone ever

>tok option
the real monsters are not going to care about how good you are in bed when they are breaking your ribs

>Split Soul
you are just adding a second weak point, it is harder to take are of 2 gems than just 1, and if something broke one of them at 100% of your power then you won't be in a better situation with just 50% of it

>>96159543
>>96158355
3 str
2 def
6 agility
4 intelligence
11 skill
These are my final stats. Are they alright? Could I survive the Culling?
>>96160133
It specifically says more than anything Culling is about survival. Time to go hide in the ruins or desert.

>>96161157
>>96160976
Shrouded magic is meant to be used to hide your dark actions. As long as you are careful enough, no one will think twice about your actions being magic and a dedicated tracker won't even be called. Yes you should be found if there's suddenly a huge crater in the middle of the city, but a casual murder or theft can easily be written off as the city being the city if the first scan shows no magic trace.

>>96158196
Her old husband is an aggressive stalker and schizo that couldn't relax when they were their honeymoon, she nwver cheated on him, and he also ended up murdeeing three innocent people before divorcing her.

Pasille idolized the Hero for being a Gigachad Hero, but she wasn't a whore. Besides everyone knows that Arios is extremely toxic and abusive which is why the other ruling gods think about issuing a restraining order against him because he is still aggressively stalking and harassing Pasille.

>>96161157
>the description of quickened spell already states that casting speed is a metaphysical speed
This doesn't make any sense to me. Let's say someone attacks you and their attacks are really fast. Then you need reaction speed to be able to detect the attacks so that you can summon magical barriers to protect you.

>>96160045
None of those are ranged attacks except Fire which becomes about minions later on.

>>96161216
In that example, you start casting the spell earlier. The time between when you react and when the barriers go up is no faster, and the number of spells you can cast in any given period of time will be the same.

>>96161160
I was unga bunga posting, 5 being peak human is way off based of the Tempered skill granting you enhanced and peak condition

>>96161247
O geeze..

>>96161234
This doesn't make any kind of sense

Favorite magic systems from CYOAs? For me it's Magi Case.

>>96158355
>Nickname
STG Bro (Solar Titan Guardian)
>Class
Warrior
>Blessing
+3 Stat Points
>Physical Skills
Tier 1: Tempered, Toughness, Martial Arts
Tier 2: Willpower, Athletics
Tier 3: Enhanced, Sixth Sense, Shockwaves
>Spiritual Skills
Tier 1: Bloodlust
>Weaponry Skills
Tier 1: Blunt Arms
Tier 2: Enchantment
Tier 3: Stamina
>Elemental Skills
Tier 1: Primal Power, Adaption
Tier 2: Affinity (Fire), Infusion
Tier 3: Propulsion
>Ethereal Skills
Tier 1: Indomitable
Tier 2: Blessed (Light)
Tier 3: Healing
>Stats
Strength: 10
Defense: 9
Agility: 4
Intelligence: 2
Skill: 4
>Terrain
Underground Ruins
Desert
>Persona
Beauty (6'11" Mountain of Meat and Muscle)
Exempt
>Resources
Forge, Market, Training, Teleport, Hot Springs, Club, Bounty, Inn, Five Tribute Points Leftover

Team Player Build that focuses on tanking threats. Has good heart. Has many frens despite not talking much. Will help out overconfident noob noobs that are in way over their heads. Loves battle, sells his services for cheap on the bounty board. Believes in true love and mating for life, waiting for the right girl to be with forever and evers.

>>96158386
>Sex
Male

>Outfit
Witchlike with a plus to Physicality

>Implement
Gauntlets

>Aptitude
Sacrifice (Specialized)
Physicality (Master)
Bioshifting (Specialized)
Celerity(Master)

Sacrifice seems insanely good but requires a build-around, so I think this focused melee build should do pretty well. Celerity should be easy to use without raising suspicion, but for bioshifting I'll have to get creative.

>Traits
Large Reserves
Talented
Soulmate: Apollyon (You can choose, right?)

>Ultimate Art:
Domain - Assimilation
Everything within range is considered part of my body, including inanimate matter and ambient energy. This means those things can be modified with bioshifting or used as fuel for sacrifice. Living creatures can resist, for a while, but they'd better either kill me or get out quick.

>Patrons
Gaia, Steve, Old Bone-Mother. The latter two are basically free for a combat-focused character...

>Day Job
Official

>Contacts
Apollyon, Sylka, Iris. The former is obvious, the latter two are good support and utility, which I am lacking

>Missions
All of them. IDK if there's a reason not to take just take all of them?

>>96161375
Entropist. It filters retards.

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>>96161493
you know, this was posted in response to best magic systems. but none of these magic is interesting to me

>Isekai Dark Overlord filters redditors for over a week straight
I'm in awe of what MiCha has accomplished.

>>96161569
Funny, that's how I feel about Magi Case.

>>96161596
Agreed! Magi Case is a bizarre answer because it is barely related to magic at all. It has the groundworks for a potentially cool system but we know almost nothing about it and certainly don't care to make choices related to it.

>>96161577
Don't worry, I posted it.

>>96161621
Upovoted :)

>>96161577
so the redditors who usually steal oc were mind broken by it lmao

>>96161375
Magi Case had one of the worst and most disappointing, and most artificially enforced for the sake of gay ass balance, magic systems EVER, fuck youuuuu.

>>96161375
But I like Sealing and Defense.

Danmachi has an AMAZING magic system tbqh

>>96161761
Nahhhh
>oh boy i hope my spells will be good
>oh crap they're shit
>i hope i can get more though!
>oh wait i can't, ffff-

>>96161761
>Squeak squeak squeek
What did the rat mean with this?

>>96161577
>dark overlord became the biggest flop of the year
Truly awe inspiring.

>>96161621
My mistake, you are 100% a redditor.

>>96161672
It looks like it. The need to make sacrifices and struggle against overwhelming odds is foreign to these people. They just want power without any pushback. Just look at how 90% of PCA's Power Creator series' builds went straight for maximally powerful Aberrants.

>>96160397
They're just your main areas of power and something you have to work up to over years. Not to mention that even when you get there, other people will have specialties and sure, your defense is great, but it has limits. There's a decent amount of things in the city that can destroy city blocks. You ain't surviving that any time soon.

>>96161621
>>96161837
I wonder just how many redditors could be amogus

>>96160976
Are you stupid? Geniunely? It's like you've heard the concept of 'use case'. Quickened spells is good for an Assassin but not a bruiser, hungry magic is good if you're setting up a long term base of operations on a leyline but not in day to day battle, and shrouded magic helps you not be attacked on the regular and helps you hide from casual detection, which again, would help for an Assassin build.

I swear you people get dumber every day.

>>96158772
Clevatess

Who is your favorite reddit author?
For me, it's Foxpeng1

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>>96161983

>>96161375
I actually rather like Luminary. On one hand it's limited strictly to combat, more or less, with some use cases if you're creative.

On the other hand, it kind of ignores or side steps the problem of "you can do anything" while still allowing us to grow stronger in our magic.

And best of all, it alludes to the fact that humans as a whole can get to that 'do mostly anything stage' via ritualistic magic, runes, and symbols. Basically witch type, written magic, spoken spells, and Enchanting.

It's just in a nice neat package without saying something stupid like "well alright, you can make Illusions" with no limits.

>>96158386
Hey so on the topic of luminary, I have close up attack, ranged attack, and a little bit of utility. But I have two points left and I'm not sure what to take it in. What are the must takes?

>>96162012
Do you have any magic that helps you defend yourself by either blocking or evading attacks?

>>96161996
>it kind of ignores or side steps the problem of "you can do anything"
Unless you pick Tech, then you can do anything.

>>96161837
Darkseid is cool though.

>>96162032

>>96162041

>>96162027
Yeah I have supersonic speed and hard light shields

>>96162039
>redditseid
Nah.

>>96162045

>>96162039
I have no words for how pathetic the dialogue in that jpg sounds, so not really.

Also he looks lame as shit.

>>96162064
> I have no words for how pathetic the dialogue in that jpg sounds,
Because it doesn't, of course.

I'm probably happy with most of my luminary build except my ultimate. I also debated between specialist flora or specialist spirit, but flora lets you splice plants and stuff which massively expands the stuff you can do...

>>96161976
The spaceship one kinda sucked, rather than comfy it felt more like making a cruiser ship.
>>96162032
Wanted to post this one but it was too big I think? And I don't know how to compress images. This one is very good.

>>96161675
>artifically enforced
>balanced
Magi Case magic is in general busted. Or are you the Timefag still crying that MeirinGODS can break timestop with a punch?

Either output more mana and risk losing later or get slumped, faggot.

>>96162111
>Wanted to post this one but it was too big I think? And I don't know how to compress images.
I just saved as jpeg in MS Paint and the file size went down a few MBs

>never dissatisfied with my builds since I always make the best possible build (that's also always thematically consistent with what I like)

>>96158386
>>96162012
Okay let me go through every level 2 magic to see what the best supplement is. Existing powers Are Radiant Specialty, Shadow Specialty, Force Master, Celerity Master. If I do not list one, assume that it is already covered by my existing powers and thus I deem it useless.

Spirit adds better healing and shields presumably stronger than my hard light ones can make.

I'm already fast but Physicality grants me super strength and ability to tank explosions which means I could start fighting the US military.

Tech is good but at Adept level it seems not worth it + I don't like the aesthetic

Bioshifting myself has a lot of potentially interesting applications, but I'm not sure how useful it is. I can already fly and can already destroy things, I don't need natural weapons. If I wanted to be invisible or disguise myself I could just go for illusion right?

Illusion at adept level seems incredibly powerful. And like it has utility.

Yeah idk. It is between Physicality II, Bioshifting II, or Illusion II

>all anons forget it takes months at minimum of near constant combat and tribulations to reach Master/Specialized in a school
>everyone makes their builds assuming they start at their highs
Oh no no no no

>>96161375
Spirit Conscript

>>96162223
I think you forget, Anon, that we are going to a boarding school. Maybe some here will sit on their asses all day and enjoy the Corporation trademarked harry potter cocaine jerkoff machine, but I will be at dueling club daily honing my powers, and honing my dark powers on the hush hush. Plus I have a shadow guardian to duel with in the off time and to offer sage wisdom.

>>96162188
You are a casterfag though.
You give girls looking at your builds the "ick"

>>96162223
Sera and their mentors will pull their ass out of the fire when they're first starting out anyway, so let them get humbled.

How would you fix them and to stop being an author's pet?

>>96162223
I took all the missions anon, i'm going to be out there fighting.

>>96161976
Mythiclegendary

>>96161976
Rake

>>96162223
Where do you see people assuming this? It's stated that you start at a low level. People describe their builds at a high level because that's when they're at their most varied and interesting - there's no use saying "yeah here's my build, it's gonna suck for twenty years"

>>96162230
Spirit Conscrupt is dogshit and literally steals powers from franchises 1:1

>cyoa doesnt mention when the missions happen
they all happen on your first day and you die like a bitch btw

>>96162362
How could it be dogshit when the average lady has badonkers larger than my skull?

>>96162346
Did you know he's a pog irl?
True story.

>>96162365
>they all happen on the same day and I go through the sickest training arc imaginable
Kino

>>96162404
Thanks for adding reasons why its dogshit. Instead of using respectable martial arts and character art it uses /d/ tier Tok loving bimboism.

>>96162404
Spirit conscript was good but the companions were definitely its weakest aspect.

>>96162486
Better than Shitalics.

>>96162522
I didn't ask.

>>96162522
>Italics out of nowhere

>>96161976
OutrageousBears

>>96161375
whats the tierlist from, magicase? also why is runecraft so low in the tierlist and alchemy so high, id figure based on what i know about either in most settings they be about equal

>>96162404
Not enough flatties.

>>96162539
I think he quit, or at least stopped making good stuff like Witch Awakening.

>>96162558
It was the first tier list about the magic by someone that didn't read the CYOA or builds.

Sealing Magic and Defensive Magic can even target concepts like death and aging. Which is why Aozdou is immortal and has her own pocket world using Sealing Magic.

>Runecraft
It's basically word magic but using runes. It's limited to what words you use to make things happen, so not as powerful.

Alchemy in Magi Case can make magical artifacts, potions, homunculi creation, impact chemicals, make enchantments, change properties, etc. It is busted at its peak and btfo Technofags.

Pic related. It's the snowbunny that made Alchemy into a magic.

>>96162527
>>96162531
Italicsdefenders love to come out the wood work when he's called out.

>>96162558
It's not a good tierlist. Alchemy is mid but italics has a thing for young white women, especially blondes so he makes his mary sues more powerful.

>>96162652
>schizoposts about italics
>gets called retarded twice
>ITALICSDEFENDERS STRIKE AGAIN
tok tier intellectual capacity

>>96162632
Something about focusing on their marriage and making babies.
Another loss to the outside world.

>>96162654
>young white women, especially blondes
He made the strongest character in Magi Case universe a loser with white hair though. Pic related.

>>96162677
My other wife

>>96162699
Whose your first wife?

>>96162654
>Alchemy is mid
Fordfags keep crying about losing to lolihag and PEAK Alchemy.

>>96162725
You know

>>96162738
But, Telos is already married to Ford.

>>96161375
Blood Magic, I guess. Something about gaining power by irritating the Void is deeply amusing.

>>96162795

>>96162223
It is years, not months and I explicitly mentioned I would be training all the time, even without the deadly combat speeding things up.

>>96162805

>>96162223
Everyone knows this.

>>96162818

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>>96162783
>telos
Ew

>>96162866

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>>96162871
Anon look at hoe cute Telos is as a mascot tho.

>>96162917
Me with evoco

>>96162915

>>96162917
>hoe
Fordbots have been dispatched to your location.

>>96162938

>>96158386
Anyone else feel like Dark Patron boons aren't really worth the trouble?

>Get oc
>Complain about it
Anons deserve NOTHING

>>96162931
1. Evoco is not a woman.
2. Evoco is evil as shit. Straight uo murder, cannibalism, and rape.

>>96161157
Hungry Magic is amazing for a technomancer that captures the generator is the "Leyline Sabotage" mission

Magi Case major complaints:
1. Not enough Roleplay Choices.
2. Magic System needs spells to use.
3. Separation of Equipment Section and more items.
4. Not enough quests to choose from, remove implied hidden quests from profiles.

>>96163031
maybe taking 3 of them is overkill, but taking 1 maybe 2 of them could be a big help depending on your build and which patron you have.

It's not like you are selling your soul or being forever tied to this deity, they can't take away the boon they gave you and if you don't complete your tasks you would only get on their follower's shit list at worst

>>96163031
Depends how powerful the bone mommy charms are.

>>96163075
I just mean not worth the effort of satisfying their requirements, not in a "they're going to soul rape you in hell 5ever" way. Like Yharum is only viable with Bio-Shifting, Ste've is going to have the same "makes you a tactical retard" issue ever berserker thing has, She is mostly just inferior stealth and inferior emotion reading to your magics, and Bone-Mother is some small boost to combat accuracy and object creation with very vague capabilities.

>>96161216
>>96161367
its a good way to balance the powers, as celerity is already a top tier power without it.

Also it doesn't make sense, celerity doesn't speed up EVERYTHING about you, it doesn't make you age faster, it doesn't accelerate your metabolism to the point you starve yourself and it doesn't speed up whatever soul bullshiterry makes magic happen

>>96163061
that's why I put in in "kind of trap" category, it is definitely a strong quirk, but:
A- you need to find and take over one of the few valuable leylines for yourself. Even if you aim for the leyline from the mission, the dark side already know exactly where it is and could target you at any time
B- the moment you step out of it, you lose this massive advantage. It might even be hard countered by domain ultimate arts depending on how exactly domains work

>>96162522
>>96162531
What is Italics even working on these days? Feels like I haven't seen him post a new CYOA in ages.

>>96163145
Did you read the mission anon? The artificial Leyline is powered by a magical generator. I am suggesting capturing the generator not the Leyline. Once you have the generator you could use it in multiple ways.

>>96162795
>Finally read the updated Magocratic Convention
>It actually does go all in into the Dido hate and calling the Eclipse plan in Blood Magic a disaster
I guess this board can make some things happen after all.

>>96163114
Chosing to use the Berseker Rage or not is a tactical decision, it is very valuable for certain encounters.

>>96159542
>not conquering your way to the coast

>>96163188
Magiocratic Convention Remake was such a failure. It didn't live up to the original release hype and build count, its reception was like a good 7.5 and this was after the Outer Reincarnation domination which reception was a perfect 9.5.

Like, what in the fuck happened?

>>96159703
>Murkin
>They still don't have sea access
I mean it's a shitty fucking swamp with nothing of value but it does have sea access

>>96163040
1. Evoco is a woman
2. I love evil women

>>96163188
>>96163233
Personally I didn't like the whitewashing of the Convention and making all your educated choices in the previous edition and Blood Mage retroactively wrong. So I didn't like it and I didn't play it. Like sure, Dido and the Eclipse being unambiguously correct isn't good, but making it unambiguously INcorrect is the exact same problem, only worse because of the retconning fucking over your players.

>>96163227
That's evil and greedy anon. Shame on you.

>>96163227
>>96163300
Eclan is terrible for conquest anyway. A small, elite force is just fine for defense, but for offense you need boots to occupy conquered territory and hold a defense line. Eclan cannot do that.

>>96163167
He was cucked by Luminary and Luminary

>>96163195
>I feel like being a retard today, surely this will work out for me

>>96163290
I don't think Terminus' questline invalidate the previous logic threads. It explains the borderline kleptomaniac tendencies of the Convention, but the moralist stance some of them uses still works.

>>96161157
None of these are supposed to provide you with that much of an advantage, compared to a Luminary with none of these you'd only be a little ahead. These are just quirks to flesh out a build, being a Luminary at all gives you all the firepower you could ever need.

>>96163324
>I don't think Terminus' questline invalidate the previous logic threads
Anon, it makes it so any of your plans to fix it just make shit worse and you're retarded for even trying. So yes, it does invalidate the logic threads, because every choice you can make is wrong except to keep the Convention reality rape going.

>>96163300
yeah but I'm a cute princess so it's okay! and besides history will remember me as the great princess that secured the future of Eclan!
>>96163312
that can be fixed by just investing in more ordinary troops alongside your elites

>>96163335
>that can be fixed by just investing in more ordinary troops alongside your elites
With what bodies? You need population to do that.

>>96163335
>and besides history will remember me as the great princess that secured the future of Eclan!
You can do this through diplomacy too

>>96163339
fuck it we recruiting the natives roman style

>>96163345
>You can do this through diplomacy too
Historically that doesn't happen outside of personal unions, but if you look at the marriage candidates there's nobody you can really marry that'll give you a personal union with your neighbors. None of them are the heir of their kingdoms.

>>96163312
Can't they? It's been a while since I've read the CYOA, but IIRC a few squads of magic knights equipped with the crystal dagger and backed with the warp crystal and pocket dimension crystal should be able to conquer most territories.

>>96163323
Go ahead and pretend Berserkers are useless anon.

>>96163356
It's not about defeating an army. Conquest requires occupation. Otherwise you get flanked, you get insurgency, you have rebellions. Your elites are too few to occupy territory. They'll win the battles but lose the war.

>>96163352
>None of them are the heir of their kingdoms.
I guess we could kill the current spouse and children of whoever is the heir and then marry them

just... uh... don't let them find out...

>>96163332
Why do you think that? The mana tax is fine and all, but it's pretty obviously a bandaid solution born of desperation. Not even a secure one, since people can steal the ressources itself.
Surely you can conjure up a better plan/story to beat Entropy Personified than "Bro, let's put all the mana in the omniverse in the same place, making it easier to destroy it in one go."

>>96163389
Because the last time someone came up with a plan to fix the problem, the CYOA got rewritten to make it bad evil wrong and a trap and the Convention got whitewashed to be in the right all along and fuck you anyone who made a build for the CYOA before.

>>96159127
Someone should come up with some proper synergous archetypes for cape teams.
Can't use the healer/tank/dps rollout because healing is not an iconic superpower.
But the iconic types don't have any obvious gameplan. People have used the justice league as a template, but it's not clear what the role of a 'speedster' or a 'flying brick' is in a team.

How do team battles usually play out in cape media? Don't they usually split up and fight the villain most similar to themselves in one-on-one fights?

>insane warmongering yandere princess murders your wife and forces you to marry her
what would you do in this situation?

>>96163402

>>96163409
Did I like my wife?

>>96163410

>>96163413
yes she was your soulmate

>>96163402
There's a lot of aspect pages, I'll post a few of them.

>>96163431
should've posted this one first

>>96163430
No such thing

>>96163435

>>96163399
What was your game plan? The only build I vaguely remember is about a lich.

>>96163442

>>96163274
1. Evoco is literally confirmed in the CYOA to have a penis to rape women with during their murder-cannibalism-rape festival.

2. You have other actual evil women in the CYOA like Elspeth or Galileo

>>96163450
>to have
Have had. Gave herself a pussy recently.

>>96163449

>>96163441
Because souls aren't scientifically proven.
>>96163409
Slay the Princess.
She killed your wife. There is no other option.

>>96163399
No, the issue was that Diabolism was a free solution to all the problems presented, meaning that picking Purist or even moralist choices was objectively wrong and Adversary was right about everything and justified in all their actions. The cyoa basically presented choices only to make half of them seem irrelevant at the end.
In the new version, Diabolism still is theoretically a permanent solution, the issue is that a theoretical permanent solution now isn't viable in the short term, meaning that the other choices do matter now and killing planets is an actual choice you have to consider.

>>96163450
1. Evoco is a woman confirmed by the cyoa
2. Evoco is the hottest monstergirl

>>96163409
She proved she was stronger, to the victor go the spoils.

>>96163450
>Galileo
>Eldritch Mommy who wants snuggly cuddles
>evil
I have trouble seeing it.

>>96163033
To be fair no self respecting man would play girly OC

>>96163402
What you want out of team roles is for members to have special responsibilities that others can't do as well.
Has any superhero team ever said "we need a speedster, without a speedster on the team we can't do such-and-so"?

>>96163472
So people are mad Diabolism went from "easy win" to "might not be enough"?

>>96163489
Self-respecting man in /cyoag/?

>>96163448
Anon, what about this post >>96163290 did you not understand? The issue is the new version retconning the previous one and making it clear that Tankista wants the Convention to be in the right, screwing over players of Blood Mage and the previous version of Magocratic Convention. This proves that he could and would retcon anything anyone decides to do besides Convention orthodoxy, it's the author's will they be correct.
>>96163472
Diabolism is not a viable choice in the current version. It's been changed to be unambiguously a trap. So again, the issue isn't that it got given a downside, but that it's been made a choice only a retard would take. Now it's not that Purist is objectively wrong, but Diabolism is objectively wrong, which is the same exact problem.
>>96163494
More like not a valid choice at all.

>>96163472
Anon was very proud that he had 'won' the cyoa by choosing the rebel faction, and is now annoyed his meta build got nerfed.

>>96163506
>Nerfed
Anon, a nerf is an equalization, ideally. Being made a trap option is not a nerf.

>>96163503
The text mentions that it can still be used to create infinite mana, solving all shortage issues. The only problem is that you now have to deal with more a more pressing problem before you can put that into practice.
So taking Adversary adjacent choices is for after you get rid of the world ending threat.

>>96163480
She is literally eating the Galileo founder out alive from the inside. She also rebirths humans into monster horrors from the cosmos and has a cult following.

Lovecraftian gods are evil.

>>96163494
It's not that it was an easy win, they mention that it already was producing infinite mana, meaning that the entire rest of the cyoa is pointless, just pick it up and no need to get mana from anywhere as long as you don't start a civil war.

>>96163503
The part where you think the Convention is somehow whitewashed in v2?
They're still the same authoritarian assholes slurping up universes and making more problems than solution. We already knew it was for that End Times mission back in v1, and having more information doesn't justify shit.

>>96163456
>>96163476
You guys are literally sucking male snake penises.

i am still going to mass produce magical girls to solve my issues

>>96163542
Yea the galileo need to be destroyed and the monster things bound and seperated.>>96163542

>>96163500
Yeah I'd say any man who hasn't degenerated into some variant of /trash/ fetishist is self-respecting (except the one I'm into that-that one doesn't count)

If Galileo is Shub-Niggurath. Who is EyObs supposed to be in Magi Case?

>>96163503
Anon you fell for their propaganda

>>96163564
Lowest standards on Earth.

>>96163409
Anything done in the name of love can't be bad

>>96163480
It's funny to see how both interpretations came to be.
Then agan she's not even the most polarizing character of the cyoa.

>>96163546
>Doesn't justify
He made it so their actions are objectively correct or the entire multiverse will be destroyed. That's whitewashing. Now all that 'authoritarian asshole' behavior is the only alternative to death.
>>96163531
The text mentions that it completely ruined everything.
>Adversary adjacent choices
You don't get to make those

>>96163552
Whoa cool it with the gay projection anon. Not everybody is homo like you.

>>96163565
>>96163585
Who is this bitch supposed to be Lovecraft nerds.

Shitalics samefag hours

>>96163594
Observation and knowledge? Probably Yog.

>>96163588
>completely ruined everything
No, it says that Eclipse ruined the convention plans with all the Blood Magic drama, however we also know that a lot of the policies they take are stupid and wasteful, you still have to fix the convention before it can actually do things. And Adversary did sucked in their goal of creating a infinite mana source, after you deal with the ends of time no more planet will need to be destroyed anymore.
While not perfect now there's not an unambiguously correct path.

>>96163542
But their eternal struggle is what keeps the cosmopolitan scourge of the Planeswalker Academy at bay. Without them, even more unsuspecting dimensional vagrants would have soul-bombs forced onto them. In that respect, how could they possibly be evil?

>>96163613
Pill me on Yog and Why is Yog a little girl?

>>96163620
Yog Sothoth is everyone and everything. All of reality is part of his body. If Azathoth is the dreamer then Yog Sothoth is the dream.

>>96163632
But why is he a little girl?

>>96163638
Why not? If you're everything you can be a little girl as much as you can be a banana or a galactic cluster, it doesn't matter.

>>96163617
>it says that Eclipse ruined
Yes trying to finalize and spread Diabolism ruined everything, like I said. They were bad for trying to fix and change things. The Convention is good, everything they did was justified. Everything Eclipse did is wrong and incorrect.

>>96163594
>Fords got Sterilized Eyes for free
What was italics THINKING

>>96163659
you seem pointlessly reductive

>>96163680
I'm just repeating what the CYOA shows or even outright states.

why are people whining about diabolism being a mistake?
it works

>>96163588
>He made it so their actions are objectively correct or the entire multiverse will be destroyed. That's whitewashing. Now all that 'authoritarian asshole' behavior is the only alternative to death.
Their actions are ensuring a solid chunk of the omniverse are sacrificial lambs for a plan that might fail to fix a problem they most likely created, as the current host of Sargon is Terminus.
If anything everyone is presented in a bad light now.
And I'll repeat myself here, but nothing prevents you from writing a story where you don't need to sacrifice 75% of the omniverse. Use magical girl, steal magic back from negentropy, jailbreak Sabbath, assemble all omniarchs like the Avengers, do a Basilia-type ritual that help you fight across versions, reproduce the Entities from the defunct Worm world - really, the only limits are your imagination, and I cannot understand how you can be so adamant about being railroaded as the OMNIARCH.

>>96163686
Because the CYOA says it was a mistake.

>>96163659
>Create infinite energy machine
>No, they ruined everything!
Of course the Convention will paint them as being all wrong while they themselves say it was perfectly justified. They did a good thing that had negative consequences they didn't actually know of, just like the convention ruined their home planet by draining it of mana, something they are so I'm denial about that the choice to actually stop them from doing it tanks your reputation with all the factions.

>>96163402
>empowered x1 (force) : 14

>Invulnerability : 6
>>Self (whole body) 1
>>Toughness 8
>>= 8

>Tactile Kinesis
>>Touch (two hands full) 1
>>Vector 1.5
>>Push Tractor 4
>>= 6

>Big League Hero

>Public Appearances
>Social Media

>ego suit
>mobility item (glider)

>mythology (boxer)
>authentic

>pocket change
>means
>riches
>base
>high profile
>sidekick

>>96163430
Then I kill the insane warmongering yandere princess, nobody kills my wife and gets away with it. Afterwards I look into ways to either resurrect my wife or join her in the afterlife.

>>96163689
dunno what are you talking about

>>96163688
>Use magical girl, steal magic back from negentropy, jailbreak Sabbath, assemble all omniarchs like the Avengers, do a Basilia-type ritual that help you fight across versions, reproduce the Entities from the defunct Worm world
cyoa didn't tell him he could thoughbeit

>>96163513
It's equalized by the benefit of getting to have the snooty moral highground and simultaneously be the edgelord non-conformist.

>>96163233
>its reception was like a good 7.5
That's still a rather good number.
IGN must pay for making 7.5 look like nothing special.

Blood Magic/Magocratic Convention is literal Marvel-tier multiverse sloppa and yet you eat it up with glee. Explain yourself.

>>96163714
I browse /tv/.

>>96163688
>assemble all omniarchs like the Avengers
But Sargon will fight against us, how could we call ourselves a team without him on our side

>>96163708
I refuse to believe anyone can be that creatively bankrupt.

>>96163688
>>96163708
Anon if you're Sartreing random shit from other CYOAs into this one then that's fucking ignoring the point of it being a CYOA at all. Might as well just imagine God comes by to solve the problem instantly for you. Why not? The CYOA no longer matters in your view.

>>96163490
Well there's domains.
Like, aquaman deals with threats from the ocean, superman does space, often there's a magic hero for urban fantasy stuff, and so on. But that kinda fundamentally means splitting the party.

>>96163732
He's on your side during phase 2 if the magical girls blasted him with enough friendship juice, naturally.

is that whineranon

Mr. Feather > Nudor > Ele = Thoss >>> Astrapea

>>96163743
>random shit from other CYOAs
>random
And now I'm wondering if you even understood what the link between Basilia and Zenobia meant.
I guess some people are predetermined to lose, huh.

>>96163691
It's not about what the Convention says, but what the results of their actions actually are in the world.

>>96163671
Getting your eyes replaced with robotic eyes doesn't sound like the W you think it is.

>>96159127

>>96163853
kino

>>96163712
It's a 75/100 a C+ at best, bro. Anything not a B is mid and not worth a lot of investment.

>>96163812
I bet Ford has a killswitch for all of his clansmen's cybernetic implants.

>>96163901
Only if they are criminals. The giant ugly machine guy in the clan companions kidnapped Ford's why for that loli mesugaki that has a crush on Ford and got put into a deathswitch robot body and to be the government's dog.

>>96163901
>>96163939
This ugly fucker.
>Goes to family BBQ with cousins
>Stabs his cousin to death in front of everyone for status.

A lot of bad/evil companions but people only want to rag on the Auctors.

>>96163959
Most of the evil ones work for the Ford Auctor.

>>96163402
Superhero teams generally just take who they can get, they're really not selective.

>>96163779
>Mr. Feather
Convention dog.

>>96163939
Nah I bet he has one for his lawful clansmen too. Just in case one of them decided to be a moralfag suddenly.

>>96163965
Ford only has like 2 objectively evil people. Ulster is tied in the amount. Malivent has the most evil people, the Auctor, the Drug Lord, and Archmage.

Can we stop pretending italics will release anything

>>96163632
>If Azathoth is the dreamer then Yog Sothoth is the dream.
This gives people completely wrong idea of them. You make it sound like all of reality is Azathoth's dream.

I consider this a common misconception, since I haven't seen it stated anywhere in all of Lovecraft's works, not even once. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong if you can point out the exact paragraph where it's established as fact, or at least suggested. If I somehow forgot about it, or better yet, miraculously haven't read it, that's fine.

So, when is reverse isekai light lord dropping?

>>96164138
Retard

>>96164040
Ford is a moralfag when you think about it. He stomped out crime, gave immortal bodies to his wife and clansmen, etc.

>>96163853
That's horrifying. Imagine being a regular storefront owner and some psychic chronotranny decides to "prank" you and your loved ones.

>>96164138
Near as I can gather, sometime in August.

>>96164079
He will come through with Echoes PSY.

earthbound cyoa when

>>96164037
Good thing since, as said ITT, the Convention is 100% justified in everything.

>>96163779
>Astrapea this low
shit tak-
>Nudor this high
You're a man of culture such as myself.

>>96164180
I don't care about that cyoa though.

>>96163688
>Magical Girls
Are these things just shittier versions of Diabolism ultimately?

>>96159904
>Setting:
A Black Desert

>Dream Powers:
Timestop, Dream Forever, Contingency+

>Home Base:
A Caravan (Fighting)

>Challenges:
All Minors, The Coven

No unsolvable challenges or overwhelming force like gods, only need stealth to avoid or direct power to fight, both of which I'm very proficient at.

>Items:
Amulet, Map, Robes, Ring of Kuranes, Black Armor, De Vermis Mysteriis, Necronomicon

>Magic Powers:
Source: The Dreamer
Spells: Apotropaic Magic 1, Wind Magic 3, Healing

>Weapon:
Type: Staff
Powers: Apotropaic Magic 3, Durable

>>96164226
What do you care about?

>>96164411
Anything else

>>96164478
>anon cares about that one species of lice that reproduce through explosive prenatal incest
You are a much kinder soul than me.

>>96157668 (OP)
>What Are You?
A Man, Caasadus, Son of Imdar
>What Is Your Role
A Warrior that has seen hundreds of battles, thousands have died by my hand in glorious conflict!
>Legend
Slayer
Lordly
Slayer of Armies
Rallier
Sacker of Cities
Labor
>Stats
Defense: 7.5
Strength: 7
Battle: 10
Tolerance: 1
Speed: 9
Intellect: 9
Stamina: 7
Magic: 1

I am the right hand of a powerful lord that's been ruling a mighty empire for many centuries, I command his armies in the field and train up the troops so they too may share in our triumphs. I know I will be a great lord someday, but I am in no hurry to abandon my oath like some traitors cur. The battlefield is my home, not some lavish stone prison!

"YHRRRRRRRAA!!!"
*cuts stone pillar in half with his axe*
"WE BRING WAAAAAAR!!!"
*Countless thousands of soldiers cheering*
*scene pans to the outskirts of a city in flames*

>>96164555
>"YHRRRRRRRAA!!!"
>*cuts stone pillar in half with his axe*
>"WE BRING WAAAAAAR!!!"
>*Countless thousands of soldiers cheering*
>*scene pans to the outskirts of a city in flames*
Toxic masculinity at its finest.

>>96164601
>Toxic masculinity at its finest.
Go back. We enjoy human suffering here.

>>96164555
Don't forget to take the women and use them as pleasure toys for you and your men.

>>96163031
Like the rest of the CYOA they seem to benefit melee fighters far more than caster characters.

>>96164731
skill issue

>>96164731
I made a caster/summoner/supporter build and i'm decently happy with it, I certainly don't feel weak.

>>96164806
But how do you benefit from the evil patrons?

>>96163167
>What is Italics even working on these days?
I have 21 confirmed CYOAs I want to make and release. That's what I'm doing these days, working towards that goal.

>21 confirmed WIP
Holy attentionwhoring.

>>96164822
I don't. I didn't like any of the evil ones, only gaia, you don't need to take any patrons, especially not ones that don't work with your stuff.

>>96164601
Discordsissy...

>>96164669
matterheroine likes making fun of men for their small dicks

>>96164839
Well that's the point, isn't it? That the patrons, or at least the evil ones, don't work very well with a caster build.

>>96164847
Yaharum and SheWho both work fine for casters.

>>96164138
I want to release it in August but worry that I'm just not very good at writing yet.
For more specific progress info:
Regular follower types: 12/16
Higher follower types: 11/20
Exemplar follower types: 4/16
Page 2 Total: 27/52 or 51.9%

>>96164180
never ever

>>96164870
Tried just writing placeholders? You can always change it later to have a more cohesive vision. You could also ask for help in the discord.

>>96164860
>Yaharum
I don't think gaining power/memories from eating flesh and regenerating from flesh works very well for anyone without the Bio-Shifting school to actually get that stuff in your mouth. Are you walking around with a flaying knife to dress your foes after every battle? How are you storing the stuff?
>SheWho
She boosts stealth, but notice how she only stops you from being physically tracked. She doesn't protect from magical tracking at all, which is the bigger issue for a caster since you're leaving magic traces everywhere. Her other thing is just tracking people who are scared of you.

>>96164882
Eating flesh and whatnot works fine for casters. The stealth one is actually really good for summoners or supporter caster types since it means youre less likely to be attacked in combat.

>>96164833
He asked.

>>96164879
Thanks for the advice. I've only written out the names for the rest, no placeholders. I'll try that and see if it helps.

>>96164731
Ste've's berserker ability boost magic too and her secondary improves mana regen.

>>96164825
How many of those WIPs have anthro women in them?

>>96164874
If I'm waiting long enough it's bound to happen.
You lack faith.

>>96164890
You deserve to be publicly executed

>>96164898
I hope all of them.

>>96164889
>Eating flesh and whatnot works fine for casters
It works fine for people with Bio-Shifting. Without Bio-Shifting it isn't viable at all.
>since it means youre less likely to be attacked in combat
It specifically notes it does not work well in combat.
>>96164896
How are you going to engage in summoning, support, or other forms of thought while you are raging and thus completely incapable of planning, restraint, or logic? There's nothing even stopping you from beating an enemy with your Wand rather than the more effective Flame blast you can do or whatever, because you are in a berserk rage.

>>96164913
>Without Bio-Shifting it isn't viable at all.
That's very dramatic and wrong.
>It specifically notes it does not work well in combat
But it does still work.

>>96164923
>That's very dramatic and wrong.
How are you obtaining and storing the flesh?
>But it does still work
Not well, which means it's not very good. You can argue a technicality here but being bad isn't much better than non-functional in the context we're talking about (judging if they're good for casters.)

>>96158386
My only problem with this how powers are separated and how you can't get more than one Specialization in a side.

>>96164932
One of the contacts has three Specialization-tier schools and you're noted to be able to get beyond Specialization tier eventually. So with that knowledge I think you can eventually get more Specializations than you start (with the talent for since none of this is instant) with, it'll just take more time. Get to Master in the other Light school so you're better positioned for that.

>>96164913
*Sigh* Berserkers use their most powerful abilities, a caster berserker is still going to use their spells over melee. I get that you hate berserkers but stop pretending that there is no time and place for a boost of pure power over clear tactical thought.

Who anon thinks he is
https://youtu.be/u-z5139CW1I?si=jb-Tg-64QDvwXn1z

>>96164929
>How are you obtaining and storing the flesh?
This question is so obvious an such a stupid question that I don't feel like dignifying it with a response. Think a lil bro.
>Not well, which means it's not very good
Still works, its stealth that helps hide, which is good for both summoners and evil people, which is what most of the evil powers are.

>>96164946
Those are the Myrmidions who burned away their dark side. You could get a second light spec at the cost of losing your dark spec (and any other points you spent on the dark side).

>>96158386
Male
Subdued
Grimoire
Force (4)
Physicality (1)
Spirit (1)
Celerity (4)
Space (1)
Bioshifting (2)

>Combining power and precision I turn my telepathy into a set of invisible needles (Metaphorically)
>Most fights should end with me jabbing a 2cm hole in my enemies head.
>Once my preparations are complete, I use bioshifting to make a perfect body double of myself and fake my own death, vanishing into the night with a new face
>Once free I change to fighting with pure speed and regular mortal weapons

Spirit is to help me fuck with the souls of others (Science), and understand why people become pures etc
Perhaps I can grant people magic someday

Magic bloodhound
>To avoid something, you must first sense it
>There are some very big fish in this setting
Shrouded Magic
>Needed to escape
Danger sense
>Just really good

Ultimate Attack: Cleave
>Turning precision from a narrow point to a sharp edge, I channel my energy in one almighty cleave, that could rend both the largest skyscrapers and the hardest metals in two

Patron: none
>No need for prying eyes

Contacts:
Klaus
Agnes
Yue
>Train with these people until I fake my own death

Missions:
Death squad clean up
Oil rig ritual
Hunting horrors
Dark cult

Quantum god
>(Use this to fake my death)

If anyone ever questions my unnatural precision, I will claim it's a skill issue

Boons "cannot be taken from you", impling they function almost independently from the patrons themselves, as of such, I inspect servants of urist to see If I can copy the memory boon

My main goal is to disappear and leave no trace, Hopefully within the first 10 years
Once free from the light and dark I do the usual
Train, amass a cult and teach them what I can, Have loads of harem sex, etc etc
Obviously my final goal is to uplift humanity and conquer the multiverse, But *I* Don't need to be the one to do that, one of my sons can, in 1000 years

If I meet any other anons, I avoid them until they lose the heat

>>96164948
>caster berserker is still going to use their spells over melee
Even if you think so, anon, how does that apply to summoning or support? Or using your spells smartly? All of that requires thinking, which you can't do while raging.
>>96164952
>This question is so obvious
I already addressed mundane flesh-obtaining and storing >>96164882
>Are you walking around with a flaying knife to dress your foes after every battle? How are you storing the stuff?
You can't use it in battle, you have to messily carve up people and monsters after battle, and you need to cart a cooler around with you stuffed full of raw meat. Or if you have the storage quirk, but not every caster automatically has it anymore than they automatically have Bio-Shifting.
>Still works
>>96164929
>being bad isn't much better than non-functional in the context we're talking about (judging if they're good for casters.)
You cannot hide in battle, anon.

>>96164968
That is literally not how it works. No other Luminary had access to Dark magic. Period. The dark they burned away was the chaos of their human nature, not magic.

>>96164975
I can see you will ignore obvious application to doompost and deny anything contrary. Sucks, don't use them if you hate them so much.

The stealth power of shewho isn't a combat buff anyway. But it has crazy utility in an urban fantasy setting. It doesn't really come into it's own if you don't also have the shrouded magic quirk but that isn't so bad.

>>96164898
As companions? Four of them.
1. Ars Goetia (Which is inspired by Made in Abyss), but they are classified as a species of Demons.
2. Cogency, but it's only 1 companion and she is a Mutant.
3. Lamentation R~, self-explanatory
4. Opposing Forces, but this thing is supposed to feature Monster Girls and Paramilitarism.

>>96164984
Nobody likes the guy in a debate who smugly declares he knows a way to disprove his opponent's arguments but he won't state it. You look like a bullshit artist, not someone intelligent.

>>96164979
>No other Luminary had access to Dark magic.
We can unlock it in others. It's a hidden potential in all luminarys that the light has hidden due to humanities duel nature.

>>96165001
Okay? That's beside the point I'm making?

>>96165000
>but he won't state it.
Lol, lmao. Doomposter go home.

>>96165007
I accept your concession.

>>96165013
Yea yea go cry somewhere else about the dark patrons if you're unwilling to see reason.

>>96164975
Talk about moving the goalpost. First it's "it doesn't benefit casters" and now you are assuming all casters are summoners and support. A berserker ability benefits DPS types including casters. So yea the lightning damage specialist benefits more than a sonic support specialist.

>>96161976
we used to bully redditors. O tempora, o mores.

I would have liked having to spend another point (so four total) to get a thing to specialization tier. I don't really understand why we can't.

>>96165017
You have yet to present your reason, that's the issue.
>>96165020
The person I replied to talked about how they were a support/summoning caster and I asked how they benefited them.

The other luminaries are limited to tier 4
Most of the pure would probably be great spirit level if they weren't being blocked, the reason they have multiple tier 4's is that they should have a tier 6

>>96164998
What about Star Runners?

>>96165025
It's too strong?

>>96165028
>You have yet to present your reason, that's the issue
>anon has resorted to historical revisionism in the same thread, in the same post chain where he was refuted several times
Lol, lmao

>>96165042
No its not we have companions with 2-3 already.

>>96165046
You literally only said to me:
>>96164952
>I don't feel like dignifying it with a response. Think a lil bro.
>>96164984
>I can see you will ignore obvious application
>>96165007
>Lol, lmao. Doomposter go home.
>>96165017
>Yea yea go cry somewhere else about the dark patrons if you're unwilling to see reason.
So where did you state this super obvious method you keep alluding to?

>>96165039
Yeah, Star Runners too. I guess 5 total.

>>96165061
>anon has chosen to selectively ignore responses now
I'm wheezing doomcuck-sama

>>96165073
Those are all the replies to me after I asked this question:
>>96164929
>How are you obtaining and storing the flesh?
Related to the flesh eating. Nobody else who replied to me was talking about the flesh eating. So no, nobody was 'selectively' ignored.

>>96165073
Doom cuck was super annoying back during the Spirit Conscript days.

>>96165084
>doomcuck is now goalposting even harder
>still ignoring responses
Thank you this has been a riot. Is your meltie over or are you going to keep crying about patrons and then ignoring the actual points telling you otherwise?

>>96165095
Yes anon I get it, you're baiting at this point out of boredom because you ran out of arguments.

>>96165103
I accept your concession, doomcuck.

>Five CYOAs with furry women
At what point do we admit that Italics is a furry? 23% of his CYOAs are furry.

>>96165061
Nta but you might need reading glasses.
>Bone-mother's guidance isn't limited to melee
>Shadows is absolutely amazing for any dark magic caster
>Steve's less useful, but the secondary can combo well with sacrifice or spirit to cover a caster's weaknesses
>Yharum's primary is memory stealing. If you can't see how useful this can be for casters you need new eyes, too.

>>96165103
>presents stupid arguments
>anons get tired of refuting them and shitpost back
Surprised pikachu face

>>96165046
>>96165073
>>96165114
Please stop being a retard and shut the fuck up
These habits will follow you

>>96161976
wheres the 2-floor apartment option so I dont have the hear the fridge when I'm sleeping

>>96165121
The post chain you're replying to is specifically and only about Yharum's, not the others. The issue with Yharum's isn't that it doesn't WORK for you, it's that getting the flesh is difficult for people without Bio-Shifting.

>>96165131
>hear the fridge when I'm sleeping
What kind of shitty ass fridge do you have?

>>96165121
>Bone-mother's guidance isn't limited to melee
It's limited to attacks with your Implements. Won't help with spells. It says it guides the Implement, not your spells.
>Shadows is absolutely amazing for any dark magic caster
Except it doesn't hide your dark magic casting, it only conceals you from mundane means of tracking, like video or smell, not from magic signature.

>>96165130
>Please stop being a retard and shut the fuck up
Ironic

Anon cannot think critically about option please forgive doomcuck-san.

>>96165145
To get technical it says the "movements" of your implement not it's "attacks", therefore it benefits the casting movements of staves/wands.

>>96162638
What is this? She's literally wearing underwear. Her pubes would be out. You can see her fucking labia.

>>96165168
She gets bikini waxes.

>>96165179
She's literally me

>>96161976
>10k in furniture
Uh so does the apartment come bare? or is this just to upgrade the default furniture. Because 10k is not enough to fully furnish an apartment.

>>96165184
Softie...

>>96165145
>It's limited to attacks with your Implements. Won't help with spells. It says it guides the Implement, not your spells.
"All Implements can channel your magics in their own ways." They impart properties to your spells because they're a part of casting them.
>Except it doesn't hide your dark magic casting, it only conceals you from mundane means of tracking, like video or smell, not from magic signature.
Absolutely true, which is why taking the Shrouded Magic or the Plain Regalia is better. It's still very useful for setting up your various magics without getting caught, though, and for avoiding surveillance in general. Also, in combat it's far more useful. Avoiding getting attacked is far more useful for squishy casters, which is why it's so helpful.

>>96165194
Where do you live?

>>96165194
This CYOA was probably written before the economy kerploded

>>96165203
Kitchen appliances and couches and lamps are expensive no matter where you go, but for the record I live in a suburb outside of ~70th most populated city in the united states.

>another casters vs martials argument
You're all magical men. Aren't you all technically casters?

>>96165237
Yes we are. Shitposter anon probably specifically chose caster v martial on purpose though hoping to bait anons. Thing is his arguments don't have a leg to stand on.

>>96165194
10k will do fine

time to start a new thread

If anon really wanted to make a casters are underpowered v martials argument in this CYOA he should focus on the way the level scaling works such that even devastating offensive abilities are ineffective against those with high enough defense. Thing is only a few of the defensive options are truly locked to martials but still building a classic glass cannon mage is a dubious proposition.

>>96161976
>Community Type:
Apartment Campus

>Grounds:
Perks: Plaza, Digital Signage, Eco-Friendly
Amenities: Courts, Outdoor Gym, Fields

>Apartment:
Type: 2 Bedroom
Perks: Perfect View, High-End Finishes
Services: Cleaning, Delivery, Health

>Amenities:
Free: Pools, Fitness Center, Rooftop Deck
Paid: Karaoke, Spa, Hotel

>Food & Drinks:
Low Cost Restaurants: All You Can Eat Buffet
High Cost Restaurants: Seafood Gourmet Restaurant, Chinese Cultural Cuisine, Luxury Breakfast
Small Bites: Local Coffee Shop, Tea Shop, Health Snacks

>Storefronts:
Clothing Boutique, Toy Store, Sports Store

>Neighbors:
Friendly, Interesting

>>96165294
not yet

>>96165301
Every Luminary is a magic tank, you wouldn't be a glass cannon you'd just be a cannon.

>>96161976
I have never seen or played such a boring, banal cyoa
2/10, don't return

>>96165367
>couldn't enjoy the cyoa because it didn't improve his living situation
Look at mr moneybags over here

>>96165399
There was an upgrade option to make your floors real wood
Who the fuck cares?
You don't even seem to own the property

>>96165363
It's all relative.

>>96165428
Is this one more your style?

>>96162029
It explicitly can't replicate the more mystical effects of other magics.

>>96165455
It is actually yes

>>96165481

>>96165486

>>96165492

Thoughts on Rake?

>>96165546
A promising new author, I am excited to see how he grows.

>>96165546
He's a really great author, and I'm looking forward to the CC update.

>>96161996
>limited strictly to combat.
Speak for yourself, my buxom shadow guardian serves me drinks

>>96165472
Suffer for the Love of Battle, Penance 3, Indulgence 3

>>96165546
He's a big dummy

>>96165546
CC was was a smash hit

>>96165568
+Double Up Spawn Selection, Double Down No Rest for the Wicked

>>96165546
He should make the opposite of the magical girl cyoa.
A short 1 pager meme cyoa about a mundane dude going on mundane adventures in a mundane world.
You can be female too, but the CYOA will go out of it's way to mention how strange it is since women are rare in the world, like needing a squad of heavily armed simps to keep you safe from incredibly desperate men.

Vault 68 World: Welcome to Hell

Can anyone accept my concession?

>>96165885
Yes child?

>>96165546
my boy is fast as fuck
>>96158386
would it be better to buy multiple schools at novice or invest in one or two specific schools with the aptitude points?

>>96165974
>would it be better to
Making that choice is literally the gameplay of the jpg
Jobber mentality

>>96163812
>getting eyes superior in every way to mundane humans eyes isn't a win actually
Only an Evocotard could make a post this foolish

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>make a build
>anons positively respond to my build
>dont reply to any of them because i dont know how to respond to positivity and compliments
this happen for anyone else?

>>96166110
yes

REAL NEW THREAD:
>>96166142
>>96166142
>>96166142

>>96166110
yes

>>96164120
I think the idea of reality being Azathoth's dream originated from some of the early post-Lovecraft writers.

Personally, I think it's a misinterpretation of Lovecraft's work. At some point (I don't have the exact reference handy), Lovecraft said that if Azathoth ever woke up, it would mean the end of reality. I read the line to mean that Azathoth would actively destroy the universe, if he/she/it ever woke up. Not that existence is a dream (which is more Elder Scrolls territoryl.

>>96163542
>Lovecraftian gods are evil.
Lovecraftian gods are generally* too alien to be "good" or "evil". They are generally bad for humans, though, as they're alien enough that even if they are trying to help, they don't have the understanding to intervene in a helpful way.

*excluding Nyarlathotep, who is a sadistic and twisted nightmare.

>>96165021
these days we say o algo, unc