Thread 96157726

it's almost time to say goodbye edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96146893

>TQ
post cards you will miss after rotation happens next month

>tq
For me it's Scrollshift. No more instant bounce effects remaining in Standard after this leaves I think.

>did MTGA tutorial
>get how to play
>still don't get the gorillions of keywords and interactions
So at this point, I just keep playing and getting my ass blasted until I git gud? The only thing that scares me is that the good paper decks are like $300. That seems pretty bananas to me.

Are we celebrating the most errors in a single set WotC ever made yet

>>96158081
>Diplomatic Relations was fucking amazing
>JOTC: "lolno fun allowed"
WHY

>>96158061
if you don't want to get overwhelmed, you can just stick to standard and limited, the vast majority of decks you will build and play against are pretty straightforward, you only need to worry about old mechanics and weird interactions if you plan on branching into older formats

>>96158061
Just stick to the starter deck queue for now, you'll get used to things. Most mechanics aren't actually that complex, you'll be able to understand 80% of 80% of mechanics fairly quick.

>>96158081
It's not even close to the most. ONE had like 6.

>>96158107
>>96158136
Guess I'll do that for now. My buddies are bringing me to a prerelease this Friday for EOE, so we'll see how that goes. The LGS is thankfully super chill and doesn't have any toxic bullshit going on.

>>96158081
the first one is obvious
but the other two? am i blind?

>>96158162
Legend frame on nonlegendary creature
"the the" in flavor text.

>>96158162
The right one got errata'd to the shadow realm.

>>96157726 (OP)
>TQ

>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71540&f=PREM
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>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM
66 players

Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>96158271
THIS IS A HOUSE CALL. THE DOCTOR IS IN

>>96158285
Based Tog poster ranking in the top #16 of the latest Order of the Sacred Torch tournament.

>>96157726 (OP)
>TQ
Glissa, Shelly, Archie.
I'm going to try to make golgari midrange work in pioneer.

>>96157726 (OP)
>TQ
removal, card draw, spell doubling
singlehandedly holds controlly izzet piles together.

good evening i hate omnath

Can I get predictions on what bending will be and how it will work?

>>96158396
Probably something like free casts on spells with that value

>>96158396
I'd assume they will be like "firebending 2: whenever you cast a red spell, this creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn"

>>96158396
Best guess, whenever "you" bend, it's some sort of conditional thing. Firebending is probably dealing direct damage to... Any target, probably, and a creature with firebending does that on attack. Waterbend is probably lifegain, earthbend is landfall and airbend is... I dunno, actually, can't place that one.

>>96158396
The only bending going on will be players taking it up the ass for UB slop once again

hop on Xmage

When are they going to ban all the rares and mythic rares so that creature power level will go down and I no longer have to see paypigs just spamming overpowered creatures in non-Pauper formats?

>>96158604
Why don't people just make Pauper but with uncommons

>>96158271
>>96158285
BRAZIIIIIIL

>>96158604
hey, cards don't sell themselves if you don't give nerds and normies a way to play the game without having to play the game

>>96158630
Uncommons are often as unbalanced and gamebreaking as rares. Commons only is the best chance for having a balanced format if it weren't for Delver.

>>96158638
Where's the Brazil exactly? The latest tournament listed is from New York and it also had a 3k prize pool, which is something I doubt would happen in Brazil.

>>96158630
That's Artisan

There needs to be a hard cap in the rules for the number of creatures allowed in a deck and it should be at 16. No reason to allow anyone to play more than 16 creatures.

god mtga is fucking SHIT

>>96158718
Yeah. It's practically just standard and fagoneer. Of course it sucks.

Arby's menu optionsI really like this deck for how cheap it is. Cactuar is the perfect card that evolve needed to go into mono green and blizzard brawl and feral encounter are quite efficient if you can enable them. Since most everything in the deck costs 1 mana, including lovestruck beast adventure, feral encounter always hits.

So far my results have been great with phoenix seeminng to be a favorable matchup which is important. Avatar of the resolute is replaceable but I'm not sure what to replace it with yet.

>>96158691
They are run by local gangs with tournaments in the largest favelas as a community activity. They aren't posted online.

>>96158972
You're trying too hard to push this meme, dude.

>>96158854
this little questing beast would do nice in there, werewolf pack leader too

think we'll ever see a downshift on pic related?

>>96159477
for pauper Tron?
would be pretty gross with ephemerate

>>96158081
Why celebrate something that's now the norm.
Just like the huge amount of people showing their off-center misprints asking if it's worth anything when nowadays it's harder to find a centered card than one with misprint problems

>>96158104
It's called
>Green Removal
Because it's
>green
and removed.

>>96159488
yeah, since you would need to play white for ephemerate I doubt it would be excellent, but playing 7 mana removal on curve with tron would be amazing. it already feels good playing G tron and curving with this on turn 3

>>96158604
>overpowered creatures in non-Pauper formats?
Dude commons and uncommons of today can be stronger than rares of before.
Even Pauper is just spamming overtuned commons nowadays.

>>96159516
shouldn't be too much of a problem with Prophetic Prism unbanned
but I'm not a Tron player, not sure how that deck runs these days

>>96159526
>Even Pauper is just spamming overtuned commons nowadays.
yes. I spam my 12 copies of Llanowar Elves.
have at thee

>>96158718
It's not that bad, it's free too.

>>96159607
>it's free too
Things that are free can't make money.

>>96159586
Here's your green prowess, bro.

Haven't played MTG in 8 years and I'm going to the upcoming prerelease
I thought pic related was quite decent for a 2 drop but by God, it's actually a 1 drop and the rest of the set is just as busted
How is limited with all that newfound power?

>>96159585
>12 llanowar elves
holy unplayable

>>96159663
that card is meh in limited. in constructed it's almost as good as hopeless nightmare in esper bounce

>>96159669
I'm mostly worried about cards like pic related and many of the uncommons running away with the game in my prerelease
It almost feels like everything was downshifted in rarity and thus the set is filled with limited threats

>>96159717
that one and the 2 mana that you can warp from the graveyard seem annoying enough. haven't check the whole set because I won't be attending prerelease but the commons are very playable. the white 4 mana 2/2 that scales with your board and the 4 mana lockdown are nice. there's even decent removal in white

What's the sideboard like against mono red aggro?
I'm thinking Wellsprings, Spellbombs, Blood Fountain out - Weather the Storm in, Pyroblast in
What are the other 3 cuts?

>>96159798
I think you should read pyroblast
marauder is also worth bringing in - you can normally land it right before you die against the average burn hand, and if you get one trigger you are incredibly favored.

>>96159815
>I think you should read pyroblast
you may not believe this and i dont blame you but i know the card well, idk why I didn't parse it in my head properly

>marauder is also worth bringing in
yeah I was thinking about how to get it in but didnt know what else to cut, but with the five cuts i already outlined that works out just fine

>>96159663
You'd be better off staying away.

>>96158396
Something like mobilize but less generic.

>>96159844
Why do you say that?
Especially since this is the last actual MtG set of the year

>>96159857
It's not a good game. Sell your cards.

>>96159874
>It's not a good game
True, but yet most players always come back to it in some way
>Sell your cards
With how insane powercreep has been all my cards must be worthless by now

>>96159857
>>96159874
He means it's not a strong set. Lorewise it's one of the best sets they've made in years, though that just means it's a 6/10 instead of a 5 or lower.

>>96159959
Creatures have had a lot of powercreep, but most of everything else just went through complexitycreep. Most of those cards have had a reprint in the last few years, but Emrakul is still worth a good amount, plus Shelldock and Metallic Mimic are probably worth a couple bucks.
>Original Mirror Gallery
Believe it or not, commander has pushed that to $25 in the US.

>>96159959
Checked the other cards, and the rest are still worth a few bucks, even with all the reprints.

>>96159974
>>96159977
Thanks for checking
>most of everything else just went through complexitycreep
That's reassuring to know
I've heard so many horror stories about Modern and Standard over the years that I assumed Wizards just went full scorched Earth and powercrept everything aside from the most broken legacy stuff

>>96160004
They have powercrept everything, but edh (the format that drives prices the most) has ballooned so hugely in popularity, and it's very casual. Some cards are very popular there despite being unplayable

reminder u can play any format for free forever on xmage (currently missing FF set its open source project pls understand). Bonus points it runs perfectly on Linux

>>96160028
Xmage is garbage, Sishen. Switch to cockatrice already.

>>96159668
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/elves-67156d3a-d400-4269-8400-3a0258a274b3#paper
I love how when a 4channy posts about pauper, he is wrong 99% of the time.
Pauper is just the 4channer scrub destroyer, no longer hidden behind "Muh expensive cards" or any faggot shit, forced to confront reality (that they fucking suck a trillion cocks and always have).

>>96160054
cockatrice is like the worst of both worlds, you dont get to play with physical cards and you dont get automated rules enforcement

>>96159516
>>96159488
Pauper tron uses ghostly flicker.
Pauper tron also doesn't want vindicate but nonlands only, if it wants a top end "fuck that thing" it uses dinrova.
What the deck needs is a way to reliably get tron and also not get fisted to death by aggro decks abusing the shit out of a gameplan that doesn't exist until turn 3 or later.
Also if singular big dudes are that much of an issue, tron has a million cards to deal with that, the issue they run into is giving the opponent 3 to 5 timewalks and expecting to survive.

>inb4 chonker tron
Dogshit deck that dies to 2 counterspells, so w/e.

>>96160028
The best part about xmeme and cuckatrice is how the skill level is equal to 4chan's (very fucking low, 0-5 weekly tournament bracket).

A Witcher UB is all but Inevitable

>>96160146
can't wait for the "I hate portals." in the flavortext of a portal artifact card

>>96160146
>Shahrazad but you play a Gwent subgame

>>96160092
I'm not seeing 12 1 mana 1/1 that tap for green or that untap forests in that list
also it didn't even reach top 8. probably because it folds to a krark clan shaman or any other sweepers

>>96160200
Shaharazad is the only card where its design gets worse over time, because the game of Magic it forces you to play gets worse with every release.

>>96160106
>Pic related
This was one of my favorite card when playing casual 60 cards against friends
If it's an actual competitive threat in Pauper I'll have to check out the format

>>96160106
I have never seen that card being played
>chonker tron
honestly the most fun way to play it together with gruul monsters

Alright nobody has actually given me a better idea than Chandra as a finisher to replace Arcavios / Founding / etc
This is what I'm currently looking at for the completed list, I think it should be able to reasonably cycle through the deck but I'm a bit worried thundertraps can't find marangs, so you HAVE to chain them to find stock ups to find marangs. Is there any other cantrip dork worth considering?

and yes you could technically just bounce their whole board, keep 4x marangs + kona and have 2-4 counterspells in hand and pass. But there are so many ways it can go wrong and it takes 10x the time

>>96160304
The blue and green planets are trash, I wouldn't even bother playtesting them unless you specifically have a combo to both station them and then to take advantage of the extra mana provided

>>96160336
Don't you think its kind of obvious what the planets accomplish

>Final Fantasy is the best selling set of all time, even with the price rise
>EOE, Foundations, and Tarkir sold like shit
>Lorwyin will probably be a blunder too
Are you ready to say goodbye to MTG lore?
We are gonna get 100% UB sets in a few years

>>96160358
Yeah, my bad. I'm an idiot.
Rather than play Omniscience and then hope you also have good stuff to cast for free, wouldn't it be more consistent to just cheat into play a win condition like Summon: Bahamut?

>>96160336
They're there for Kona tapping, anon. It does look like a strong setup, though Simic doesn't have the control pieces that Azorius has, its ramp makes it faster than the Azorius version.

>>96160304
Schooner's probably a good option too. Explore can filter for your omni and secure land drops, while giving something for your Dorks to do if you don't open the key pieces to ramp into.

Likely not as a 4-of though. 1-of or 2-of maybe? Always nice to have extra consistency with tapping Kona on turn 3.

>>96160365
But I really liked Foundations, and I prefer "regular" sets over crossover sets. I personally th9nk Foundations has a really good blend of both cheap starter options and strong stuff for veteran players.

>>96160369
The best reanimation deck has been dino roll with ghalta, rakdos joins up, etali, etc and parts are rotating, because it could go turn 2 invasion of ergamon, turn 3 zombify and then chain a bunch of spells and win the game from legendary creatures dying with rakdos joins up

Imagine you cheat out Bahamut, opponent untaps, casts a single piece of interaction.
Combo decks pretty much ALWAYS need to win the game the turn they pop off, or at least lock up the board with a fairly deterministic state. Cheating out a single big card is never enough on its own, and the few times wizards have been dumb enough to print cards that win the game by being cheated out alone, they broke the fucking game. You know, like a 15/15 flying protection annihilator 6 time warp

Honestly, the Station lands being free unlimited free tap outlets might be the only not completely useless thing Stations end up doing.

>>96160389
Thanks for explaining this. I shouldn't try to give advise when I'm clueless
>Cheating out a single big card is never enough on its own
It's crazy to think we can realistically drop a Progenitus turn 3 in standard and that's not even good enough

>>96160365
To be fair, there aren't many franchises with FF's pull. You get a big payoff early and then nothing as IPs dry out

>>96160412
Didnt FIN give us a better Cryptolith Rite?

>>96160365
>Foundations, and Tarkir sold like shit
They were pretty big saleswise, DFT was the one that flopped.

>>96160425
Sure, but it's not 0cmc and also nigh impossible to remove.

>>96160415
lots of times where playing progenitus on turn 3 accomplishes nothing more than playing an eager cadet would
its just one blocker without reach when opponent is attacking for lethal

>>96160423
If FF's pull was really that strong their own TCG wouldn't be struggling to remain relevant
FFXIV has lost most of its momentum, FFVII Rebirth sold below expectations and FFXVI wasn't a particularly successful game either
For some reason UB FF just struck it big with the crowd that loves to speculate on TCGs

>T: Deal 1 damage. Draw 1 card, untap.
>T again. Deal 1 damage. Draw 2 cards, untap.
>T again. 1 damage, draw three.
>T again. 1 more damage, draw four.

My noggin is a-joggin...

>>96160470
The game is not very good.

>>96160470
>For some reason UB FF just struck it big with the crowd that loves to speculate on TCGs
Collecting trading cards of your favorite game characters isn't that massive time investment compared to playing through whole Final Fantasy game release. I'm guessing fans are just too busy with their lives.

>>96160473
Do you draw just 4 cards or 10 cards total with this combo? Assuming you leave your dino alive

>>96160552
>Do you draw just 4 cards or 10 cards total with this combo? Assuming you leave your dino alive
10 total.

>>96160415
Cheating big dumb greenigga, like prog,
Reanimator/cheats have always preferred lock pieces or lifegain shit to avoid being rolled over.
Remember even old reanimator played sphynx of the steel wind.

Cheating prog only ever saw play in natural as a plan B type deal.

>>96160473
Cute. Will go great in my commander deck

>>96160225
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7252726#paper
Nice goalpost moving. It's alright, I understand you are a malding pioqueer arenacuck.

>>96160265
It isn't.

>>96160412
It probably won't be viable but there is an attempt to make.

>>96160602
its right there >>96160304
stations lands tap kona
lost in the maze makes kona hexproof
marangs win the game

>>96157752
>Truly unfun trends, Sealed fun
Spoken like a true limited buyfag.

>>96158081
The entirety of Torment saw every single art for each white card in the set printed at a low rate pixelated version of the final art lol

>>96160412
We gonna tap some merfolk.

It's coming bros...

>>96160661
Man, I wanted these decks to come back. Not like this, but I wanted that.

>>96160661
Not to Arena.

Ok let me cook for couple turns so I can station Magda.

>>96160681
I was pondering a Magda brew with it too.
I mean, it's basically just Vehicles, but having "basically Vehicles" but in the land slot opens up a lot of options to be more reliable.

>>96160661
Miles is the wrong color.

>>96160661
N

>>96160684
All I can see is loops, but I am not sure if they're there.

Cat/oven still needs to be banned from Pioneer.

How you would ever allow something so cancerous that basically just disables all combat-based decks from your format is beyond insane.

>>96160576
I originally mentioned that nobody runs 12 llanowar elves copies. I don't know why you keep posting lists that don't run all of them, proving me right.
>see decklist
still dies to sweepers btw

>>96160874
standard elves, fucking STANDARD elves has a whole ton of mana dorks including 4x llanowar elves and can run haste enablers, tyvar and voja
and it just dies to a sweeper

>>96160883
but is standard elves good?

>>96160886
no of course not
sweepers exist and are 2-3 mana

>>96158162
>am i blind?
Tip: Diplomatic Relations doesn't say "Target creature you control", but just "Target creature".

All cute girls that plays MTG on YouTube are exclusive to EDH

This isn't fair. Why women are allergic to competitive formats?

>all these people talking about various combos
>tfw I just want to make a deck of blue jellyfish guys
I don't really care if I win. I just want to make meme decks where every creature is a goblin, or a cat, or a jellyfish guy.

>>96160856
anecdotes aren't worth fuckin shit but I don't know I don't think I've had that bad a run against them with mono-red mice and friends
you wanna talk about decks getting stomped by bullshit I wanna talk about getting to experience tibalt's trickery for the first time, like what the fuck am I supposed to do about that besides hope they brick

>>96161007
The Dutch goth girl plays Arena only.

>>96161007
Come play Arena, straight virile man.

>>96160874
>Moves goalposts
>Splits hairs
Let me guess, favorite format premodern, favorite topic of discussion midgame is how Jews control the world.

>>96161078
Why should you play Arena over the other options like Online?

>>96161109
cause it's free
>b-but you can go infinite!!!
>b-but just rent cards
>b-but just a small investment
it's not free

>>96161120
How is playing Arena though? I know you can buy boosters like with paper, but not singles, and you can't trade/sell. How good/bad is it if I just want to dick around and build some decks without paying?

>>96161078
I refuse to play fake magic like arena
where cards will be... in-universe.... while cardboard will have marvel capeshit
huh
wait a second

>>96160661
>Quick, we need someone for the green color!
>Uhmmm... Lizard, maybe?
>no no, we already have one villain, and he's not been a real villain for like three decades!
>that across the spider dimension just came out, my kids love it! Are we using the main character from that one?
>but sir, this thing won't be coming up for like five years, no one will care about that by then!
>No, I'm a genius, and my kids love this right now, I'm sure it's the correct move. Ship it.
>but sir...
>Ship. It.

Honestly I think you could get an 80%+ winrate in standard mythic arena by just running leyline of the voids, sweepers and a win condition that doesn't die to GFTT/Get Lost

>>96161154
venon should've been green

>>96161154
I doubt they made these decks 3 years ago. 2099 is there.

>>96161229
Venom is an extremely Black-aligned character, though. The symbiote itself might be Golgari but Eddie is black as it gets.

>>96161225
So just a token control deck?

>>96161233
Anon, I have no idea when across the spider-verse released, but Miguel and Gwen are definitely using their across the spider-verse designs there (probably miles too, but honestly I have no idea how his look in that movie is distinguished from his comics look). Miguel there looks nothing like his old 2099 comics self, he's pretty spinky there, while in the movie he's much larger and more broad-shouldered, like on that deckbox.

They need to bring back infect. No. Not toxic. The good ability for poison counters.

>>96161146
It's fine from that point of view if you're decent at draft and/or do your daily 4 wins. The problem is dealing with the insufferable arena players.

>>96158061
Keywords are either dead simple and self explanatory because they're old (flying, first strike, death touch, trample, haste, etc.) or they're a new set gimmick used only in that set, and maybe one card with that keyword is playable. Learning all is not needed, just know what's popular and what you play/will play against.

>>96158271
You still haven't posted your own deck, instead spamming aggregator website nonsense.

>>96158396
You know those extra things like Monarch, Ring Tempts You, Ci Dungeons, and so on that exist outside the game zones, all four bendings will be like that.

>>96161260
>Glisso, Flesh-Infecting Rabid Elf
>1BG
>Legendary Artifact Creature - Phyrexian Elf
>Infect
>Whenever this creature enters or attacks, you may put a poison counter on each opponent. If no counters were placed this way, proliferate.
>Whenever you put a poison counter on an opponent, target creature gets +3/+3 until end of turn, lose 1 life and draw a card. Do this only once each turn.
>3/3
plz no

damn tickets never get cheaper than this, right?
seems like a good time to get into MTGO

>>96161329
probably not even possible to buy these. the set isn't out yet.

>>96161269
Are people toxic in game in chat or something? I've had a few assholes at my LGS for FNM, but they immediately get banished.

>>96161388
there is barely any way to interact with your opponent in Arena
besides roping them when you get salty

>>96161329
>paying more than $0.50 for a line of code that only costs $0.00000000001 to generate

>>96161401
where do you buy tickets for $0.50?
the bots buy them for like $0.75

>>96161407
READ CAREFULLY RETARD
>>paying MORE THAN $0.50

>>96161388
There's no chat, only a few preset emotes. However, expect people to use them in the most possible toxic way possible.
Also people just afking when they get salty.
Also people just afking in general because they queued up and are alt tabbing watching their favorite onions streamer or something.
Also people just playing the most boring free win decks possible since the entire economy model rewards getting as many wins as fast as possible.

>>96160661
Seriously who is the fucking target audience for this slop?

>>96161419
where do you buy tickets for less than $0.50?
the bought buy them for like $0.75

>>96161401
Your bank statement is also a line of code

>>96161439
Do you really think I use fiatslop?

>>96161424
all of these happen in MTGO leagues though

>FIN beat the entirety of LOR's sales in a single day

We are fucking doomed.

>>96161479
FIN is kino
LOR was slop
learn the difference, it could save your card game

>>96161424
>>96161400
I expected some level of that since mtg (and any game really) always attracts some angry sweatlords. Personally I think it's fun, but I don't make a card game my entire personality and career.

Also, what happens if someone goes AFK? Do you just win by default?

>>96161495
there are about 3 standard playable cards in the entirety of FIN and that's counting opera love song which basically rotates with all the bans

>>96161496
You win after some time waiting for their timer to go out. If they are being extra bitchy they'll continue playing while letting the timer go close to running out on every action.

>>96161471
I feel that arena particularly suffers from casuals alt tabbing and the issue is particularly bad when they have some activated ability that can be used at any time. This doesn't happen to me when playing timeless, but happens all the time if I torture myself with standard.

>>96161479
>doomed -likely to have an unfortunate and inescapable outcome
what makes you think this is a future event? we are inside it right now. the walking dead was the precursor event. neither lotr or fin should've happend. everythings fuck.

>>96161509
FIN was the best draft set since NEO

>>96158061
this game is shit don't bother

>>96161521
anyone who plays mazemind tome and leaves it untapped without passing fast should be punched in the face repeatedly

>>96161512
That sounds like a joy. Is there some sort of reporting system to deal with that?

Also, the game gave me a ton of boosters to open, but I understand with the new set coming, a lot of stuff gets rotated out. Do those cards just become totally useless?

>>96161104
have I ever mentioned any other format? take your meds

>>96161509
>there are about 3 standard playable cards in the entirety of FIN and that's counting opera love song which basically rotates with all the bans
Cecil
Vivi
Fire Magic
Starting Town
Astrologian's Planisphere
Dragoon's Lance
Sazh's Chocobo
Tifa Lockhart
Travelling Chocobo
Sazh Katzroy
Ultima
Joshua Phoenix Dominant
Summon Fenrir
Terra Magical Adept
Yuna Hope of Spira
Esper Origins
Summon Knights of the round

not even getting into >>96161550

>>96161479
>they produced X number of lotr product.
>sold out completely, no refills
>they produced X+1 number of ff product
>sold out completely, no refills
>zomg, FF SOLD LIKE CRAZY, EVEN MORE THAN LOTR, but in a single day!
I promise you, the actual numbers aren't that disparate, it's entirely because of the limited run numbers of the product. The vast majority of lotr sales were probably preorders and first week sales even up to today. Current day lotr sales are like zero, nothing. Because there's no more product to buy.

>>96161495
All UB slop is slop. Especial Final Fagasy

>>96161591
>fire magic
zero play
>astrologians planisphere
sucks
>dragoon's lance
lmao you joking
>Sazh's Chocobo
>Tifa Lockhart
>Travelling Chocobo
>Sazh Katzroy
a literal meme deck, it loses to everything with interaction
>Ultima
too slow and bad
>Joshua Phoenix Dominant
bad
>Terra Magical Adept
bad
>Yuna Hope of Spira
>Esper Origins
>Summon Knights of the round
too easily counterable meme deck


That's cecil, vivi, starting town and fenrir and only 3/4 of those are actually seeing play because the few 3+ color decks aren't even running town

>>96161599
>UBslop
extremely cynical product like LOTR.
>overpowered cards that broke multiple formats
>blackified half the cast to appease jewish overlords
>made exclusively for the most expensive formats so they can milk the cashcows
>only reason anyone opened it was due to the meme novelty of the 1/1 one ring card
UBKINO
>amazing draft environment
>faithful to the source material
>source actually mixes well with MTG; providing countless cards that fit within the lore and you wouldn't even know they're UB cards unless told so
>KINO arts from amazing artists like amano

>>96161622
>UBKINO
No such thing. It's all slop

Can't fucking wait for Universes Within spoilers.

how much does your lgs charge for pre-release?
Mine is asking for 35€. Two boosters per player to the pool with a top heavy payout. Is this expensive?

>>96161613
>>fire magic
>zero play
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7252598#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7252278#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7252277#paper

>>astrologians planisphere
>sucks
Sees play
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7252944#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7251654#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7251392#paper

>>dragoon's lance
>lmao you joking
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7249209#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7239844#paper

>>Sazh's Chocobo
>>Tifa Lockhart
>>Travelling Chocobo
>>Sazh Katzroy
>a literal meme deck, it loses to everything with interaction
You can't "d-doesn't count!!!" a playable deck with multiple 5-0s

>>Ultima
>too slow and bad
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7247633#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-mono-white-token-control-dmu#paper

>>Joshua Phoenix Dominant
>bad
>>Terra Magical Adept
>bad
>>Yuna Hope of Spira
>>Esper Origins
>>Summon Knights of the round
>too easily counterable meme deck
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7250133#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7248863#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7246294#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7243031#paper


I think you need to learn that there's a difference between "I don't personally like that card" and "that card doesn't see play". Your bias is really showing, I just showed you a dozen playable cards that have 5-0s and other tournament results under their belts and you refuse them.

>>96161646
same here, they charge 10€ more than they used to wtf

>>96161427
People who like spiderman and want to plat mtg?

>>96160661
can't wait for scalpers to collect this shit so I don't have to see it at my lgs

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1m7cg22/organized_play_is_on_fire_we_saw_a_nearly_40_year/
where the fuck is this 40% increase happening because all of my lgses only do casual commander now outside of prereleases

>>96161154
If it was based across the spider dimension Miles would have been blue and Miguel green.

>>96161646
$35 for eoe
pack per win
i haven't played paper since thb so i forget what the old prices used to be

>>96161154
It'll come out before the third movie does, they didn't miss anything.

>>96161808
>Don’t be surprised if you see us looking at K pop bands. Nothing’s off the table.
oh come the fuck on

>>96161646
Mine is $40, with the following
>as many free lands as you want, and you can keep them
>just showing up gets you a booster
>first win gives a booster, second gives two, third gives 3 (total of 6)
>winner gets a box
>staff will help you draft and guide you if you're new

>>96161808
40% of 5 people is a 2 person increase.

>>96161808
have you tried not living in hicktown alabama

>>96161808
>Lord of the Rings took six months to deliver $200,000,000 of revenue.
>Final Fantasy took one day.
HOW

>>96161877
FF has a huge fan base of weebs thanks to 14. LOTR does not.

>>96161854
Sound fun.

>>96161877
Same reason the Arena threads got driven off /vg/ by gachatrash and weebshit, they have hordes of people willing to eat up slop.

>>96161877
Final Fantasy fans are more mentally ill. They will spend 200 dollars for a single emote.

>>96161915
They're genuinely good people. They will go out of their way to help you, and they actually price to an insanely good degree. Like they pretty much charge the competitive price on tcgplayer AND you don't have to deal with shipping.

>>96161938
Hol up, isn't mtg technically a gacha?
>game is f2p
>you get basic gear for free
>lots of grinding
>you can skip the grind for money
>can't buy the good stuff directly
>have to rely on RNG to get the good stuff

>>96160092
>4 generous ents
>4 nyxbloom hydra
>1 initiative card as a treat
Thanks for proving my point, deck is filled with pushed commons from post-FIRE

>>96162007
>can't buy the good stuff directly
you can, though

>>96161646
38€
0 & 1 win get 2 boosters; each win past that nets you another booster

>>96161427
Haven't bought any product in a while but I might get those.
If all cards in each deck are spiderman-themed it could make for a neat simple battlebox

>>96161427
Personally I fucking hate crossover anything, even if I like the series itself. I like FF. I like MTG. I don't like mixing them together.

>>96162161
>a neat simple battlebox
If you enjoy deckbuilding and you have time on hands then you should try to do your own battlebox
I have a box of 6 decks that cost me barely anything to build and are a blast to play against friends with
Rebalancing those decks after each game night was fun too, even if the red aggro deck had to be gutted of its coolest cards si it'd stop winning on turn 5 every time

>>96162007
No. Mtg doesn't have waifus.

>>96162007
>can't buy the good stuff directly
you can

>>96162273
Are you sure about that?

>>96161877
I refuse to believe this fucking bullshit.

i know he's probably opening packs for cardkingdom or something but i still find this shit hilarious

>>96162264
I'm more of a cube enjoyer for mtg, but had some battlebox of other card games. I was thinking about making an old pauper box because atog did nothing wrong, but I still need to work on it.
I'd just like to play with spiderman cards, but absolutely won't mix them with actual magic cards.

>>96162007
In paper and Online you can trade with other players directly, on Arena you have wildcards that allow you to pick whatever card you want. The game has gacha elements for sure, but it's not really a gacha.

>>96160672
It is standard legal...
>>96162309
You still watch mtg openings?

>>96162309
So is ancient tomb the big chase card this time around?

>>96162368
>It is standard legal...
On Arena, MTGO, there won't be Spider-man. No Green Goblin.
There will be Ral Zarek and Garruk.

Say something nice about OTJ

>>96161598
You see, the numbers come directly from the Hasbro quarterly earnings call, so sadly this time they are not just pulling the "we sold 1 more box than last time, best selling set ever" - this one is backed up by the actual sales numbers.

>>96161622
FIN draft *is* good, but that in of itself is a problem because the set is fucking expensive as all shit to draft thanks to UB special pricing (for a Standard set...).

>>96162388
the cheapest version is $100 before this release, so probably
idk when tomb climbed so much, but I know it used to be a lot less. It is an insanely broken card though, I legit think it's the most powerful card in legacy at this point in time.

>>96162273
(anymore)

>>96162388
https://youtu.be/8YnJDCzO1lA?t=1858
his hands are shaking, his voice is cracking, but he's still opening packs, still racking up profits

>>96162448
It's not spooderman.

TURN 1 LLANOWAR ELVES
TURN 2 FENRIR

>>96158396
when you cast a red spell, target land becomes an X/X creature with haste and indestructable until end of turn perhaps

>>96162273
>Nicol Bolas
>Ugin
>Niv-Mizzet
>Galazeth
>Teval
>Betor
>Ojutai
>Neriv
>Amareth
>Kolaghan
>Intet
>Oros
>Vorosh
>Beledros
>Ureni
>Korvold

>>96158396
Whenever you bend, your progress down that element's bending path that number of steps (see helper card). You may choose any route that's attached to your current position on your bending path. If you progress multiple steps at once, all the listed effects apply simultaneously. Once you complete your bending journey by reaching the last step of your bending path, further bending cards will restart you at the beginning.

See also: Venture into the dungeon, the initiative

>>96158396
airbending: draw a card other than first on draw step /// draw a card
waterbending: gain life // you gain life
earthbending: put a +1/+1 counter on a creature // put a _+1/+1 counter on a creature
firebending: deal noncombat damage to a player /// deal damage to a player

aang is a 4/4 flying that pings for 2

>>96162694
forgot to say that bending occurs when you attack with the creature

>>96162688
>WotC raping every format to death with 4 initiatives
I can see it.

Friendly reminder that the product you cumsume is made specifically to please the sensibilities of this particular group of people.

redpill me on starting town. why is this card seeing no standard play?

>>96162776
It doesn't affect me in any way. I wouldn't even know of this particular group of people existing, had you not posted it.
It will not affect my judgement of the products I decide to consume.

>>96162667
>Nick Balls is his waifu
GAAAAAY

>>96162776
americans? yes, I know but this video has not a single card in it to prove that

>>96162777
Why not?

>>96158396
My hope is that bending is just "cast a spell of X color", because having to remember 4 newly introduced "venture into the dungeon" at the same time in the same game is going to make me kill myself

>>96162776
The human body's ability to move despite being in such a state is astonishing.
Cards for this feel?

>preordered EoE collectors booster box
>lgs cancels
>doesn't even list it anymore

>>96157726 (OP)
I preferred the original veil art. This is just sad

This is my favorite Liliana.

>>96162937
Is this an alt art for OG Liliana vess? The one w it h vampiric tutor effect?

>>96162388
there's an ultra paypig version that's $500

It feels like WotC is leaning a little too hard on their Japanese artists these days. I don't really understand why EOE needed anime alt arts.

>>96162890
fleshbag marauder or if you are an UB fag, summon fat chock

>>96162997
anime sells, especially white big tiddy chicks. it's the weeb tax, always has been. looking at some of the prices full arts I only hope FF made wotc learn this lesson

>>96163055
why does she like swamps so much...
also
>once upon a time your 4 drop could just tutor a land then pass

>>96163055
Damn one more card for the waifu collection….

>>96163064
Her home was by swamps.

>Liliana of the Veil and Sheoldred are gonna rotate in a week
Monoblackstandardchads...we are being emasculated

>>96163112
>gonna need to run more cards featuring MEN in my deck like shoot the outlaw and cecil
that's it, I'm switching over to Naya Waifus

>>96162970
Is it foil or borderless or something?

New pedo program is about to drop

Has there ever been a character more unfairly brutalized in the lore for no reason than Venser? Karn didn’t even bother to name drop him once during the invasion.

>>96163220
Dack Fayden got killed off screen and never mentioned again.

>>96163232
He got killed in the trailer.

How will /mtg/ cope?

>>96163344
uhhhh... fake numbers!
they sold less of previous sets on purpose!
it was a fluke because of the lottery for the one rin-

>>96163344
Is this in thousands or millions? If Magic only made $758 that would be catastrophic.

>>96162847
It seems more like it's a keyword action rather than a batching.

>>96163381
it's obviously millions

>>96162448
The pinglands cycle were a neat addition to pauper

>>96163212
Are they seriously bringing back the Judge program? I honestly thought they were going to cut Standard eventually.

It hurts bros...I've known for a long time the MTG I loved is dead, but man. :<

>>96162997
All sets since Duskmourn have 10 Japanese TCG inspired cards. They specifically requested to have the art and frame resemble card art seen in Japanese card shops. These was done to boost Japanese sales numbers.

>>96163220
Almost every returning character from before gaywatch?

-Venser, Slobad, Geth(from someone trying to dethrone Sheoldred to just a lackey), etc
-Dack Feyden, Machesa, Brago, etc
-Odric, the incestuous twins, Thalia&SaintTrafit, etc
-Nissa, Nahiri, Omnath, Anowon, etc
-Kozilek, Ulamog
....

>>96163454
It seems so, but they haven't even started yet, they are currently looking for someone to begin building the entire thing.

>>96163024
Imagine how much more they would be selling with all around good art, attractive females and no niggers!

>>96163468
Seems like they'll order a second set of Final Fantasy. New set by 2028 at least.

>>96163468
So what happens when investors ask for more growth? Where do they go up from here? The only things that I can think of that can compete are Star Wars and Nintendo IPs

>>96163519
indeed. it's almost as if they were making this deliberately or something.. hmmm

Arrival of the Spider Messiah.

Can I play shocklands in standard this FNM?

>>96163540
They keep doing what they are doing, cutting costs and increasing the prices, normal booster boxes used to be 79€ just a few years ago, now they go for 150+

>>96163544
I can't tell anymore what is real and what is a custom card bros...

>>96163544
What are the implications of the 9th card starting with O?

>>96163574
Was revealed by Marvel's Twitter as a teaser.

>>96163587
Might just be a very multicolour heavy set. It is also a smaller set than average (in the lower 200s).

>>96163544
At least they're getting comic artists to do some of the art.

>>96163544
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>96163544
So... This is how the end starts, with a shitty fake comic image...

>>96163544
What's the flavor behind chapter 3? Why can the spider itself become spiderman?

>>96163633
I assume the idea is that it's riffing on the Spider-Verse thing of "anybody can be Spider-Man", though it is funny how you can have it bite itself. I'm sure that's happened in some what-if story, though.

>>96163544
I'm curious: how many UB sets have Sagas? It feels like it's every single one at this point

>>96163633
It's probably the origin of all Spider-men including Spiders-man.

>>96163647
They make sense for UB, is the main thing. FF used them mostly for Summons, but UBs using Sagas to represent very famous stories from the source materials is a very 'clean' way to do things.

>>96163540
I seriously doubt any set will ever go higher than FIN has.

+ FF fans span a huge timeframe from the 80's to present day
+ FF products are already expensive and the fanbase is used to spending money
+ The set sold more to collectors than actual players (although credit where credit is due, FIN as a Magic set turned out OK even if it was on the lower / casual level)
+ Add the fact that FIN is the set where Pokemon "investors" started into MtG on top of the already present "finance" community who hoard sealed collector products

It was just the perfect storm and it won't be repeated. But oh, the resources they are going to spend to try to make it happen again and again and again...

>>96163652
>Spiders Man
That's pretty fucking funny. That reminds me of Man Bat from Batman.

>>96163647
All of them including the commander deck ones.

>>96163672
Suits don't realise that lightning in a bottle isn't a sustainable source.

>>96163672
Yes yes but line must go up. What now?

>>96163681
Did 40k? I don't recall it having any.

>>96163699
yeah, one in every precon

>>96163699
At this point saga is a well liked type of card that didn't do too much damage (*wink fable wink*) we can expect to see in almost every set.

>>96163718
Huh. I didn't really pay too much attention to 40k honestly.

>>96163647
Garfield comes in gives us a cool card type that completely mogs planeswalkers.
And now its just another way to push as this UB cum in our faces

>>96163655
But having EVERY SINGLE ONE having them is kind of jarring, it's one thing if they show up often, it's another if they feel like a requirement

>>96163697
Line is going to go very, very far down as early as Spider-Man hitting the shelves (but not Arena!).

>>96163672
We will just get fin 2 in 5 years, or sooner, like how they revisited settings back when sets were a thing. The nerdgasms over return to ravnica were crazy

>>96163750
What ground could they even cover in a second FF set? I guess the side-games, more love given to the ones that got fucked over (why was 5's rep so nothing, I don't get it)?

>>96163719
FIN summon sagas are amazing. The idea of gating creatures by 3 turns unless messed with is a cool design feature to build cards around.

>>96163745
I don't think Avatar will have them, personally. I can't see it 'needing' them as much.

>>96163544
Origin's should've been something like the background cards.
Although I understand why they won't go that route since companions were a dumpster fire after all and it's pretty hard to design balanced pre-game/out of sideboard card.
I'd have liked something like lessons where you can maybe choose a background for your characters beforehand and then apply it when you use the actual card.
Like one origin gives +0/+1 and vigilance and one gives +1/+0 and haste but increases the cost by 2.

>>96163758
Well they already showed they were willing to make multiple cards of iconic chars so the ground is fertile for more clouds and tifas and sephiroth

>>96163776
That'd be immensely disappointing to just about everybody, even FF7 fans.

>>96163758
a lot of ff characters didn't get any representation. Still getting same popular characters cards won't have same impact

Dragon ball could top FF
One piece could top FF

Too bad they already have their own card game

So it only leaves one weeb IP left

>>96163832
dragon quest could be a hit in japan, but its too lewd for WOTC

>>96163758
>a whole set of Final Fantasy Tatics Kino
I am sold

>>96163589
irrelevant

>>96163672
>It was just the perfect storm and it won't be repeated. But oh, the resources they are going to spend to try to make it happen again and again and again
You said the same thing about LotR

>>96163544
oh shit! cancelling my eoe order rn
(teaches them to not start teasing before the last set comes out)

>>96163544
>receding hairline
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

>>96163544
SPOILER SEASON NEVER END

>>96163672
You guys say the same thing every time a big set you don't like exceeds expectations and breaks records.
>WAR will never happen again, it was a combination of nostalgia and marketing
>LTR will never happen again, it was a beloved IP combined with 1/1 TOR gambling
>FIN will never happen again, it was a perfect storm, bro
A couple years from now you'll probably be making a post about how the Star Wars set or some shit like that breaking a billion dollars was an anomaly and will never happen again.

>>96162777
It's seeing okayish play. A two color deck that wasn't running a painland isn't going to run a painland but worse.

>>96163220
yes, Lukka. At least Venser got his grand sendoff (no, the zombie isn't him).

>>96163972
Yeah my money is on Star Wars set being the peak that can’t be touched again.

>>96163832
FF has its own TCG and its genuinely good

Wait so mtg isn't dead?

>>96164082
Premodern is saving this game.

>>96164082
look around, do you see anyone playing mtg around you?

>>96164082
Mark failed. As long as he's employed it won't die.

>>96164082
Pauper is saving this game.

>>96164082
I am personally keeping the game alive. For every player that quits, I am buying another box of the latest available set.

>>96164082
Is fucking dead as MAGIC
But as Fornite (a succesfull financial product)? Fucking huge

>>96158296
Only the top 16? I guess he didn't discard enough cards.

>>96163544
Post yfw it will be Origin of Ishkanah on Arena and MTGO. Try not to seethe, instead find a way to cope. Paperfag.

>>96163760
I don't want to sound too much like the "Everything is kicker" guy, but vanishing counters have existed for creatures for decades

>>96163745
>Doctor Who: Sagas representing episodes
>Fallout: Sagas representing Vaults
>FF: Sagas representing summons
>LotR: Sagas representing in-universe texts
>Warhammer: just lore lol
why were Warhammer sagas so shit?

>>96164279
all creatures are either Mulldrifter or Ball Lightning

>>96164279
Forgot about those. They haven’t made one in over a decade and a half though? Maybe it’s a revival of the idea. Either way I like it

>>96162776
ah yes... the modern audience

>>96164292
Weaker Ninjutsu but you don't have to attack.

>>96164292
>>96164307
It's time to go back to old school or premodern honestly. Not even memeing here.

>>96164292
This looks AI made, all of it lol

>>96164292
RIGHT IN TO MY BANT LEGENDARY DECK XD

>>96164393
https://scryfall.com/search?q=a%3A%E2%80%9CThanh+Tu%E1%BA%A5n%E2%80%9D&unique=art
just ub things

>>96164292
Oh wait this is Modal and Transforming. Neat, I guess.

>>96162776
nootice how the only one dressed like a man is protecting the cat from those foul beasts

IGN also revealed some others, so I guess they're going full Spider-Verse.

Miguel is dogshit.

Peni's mech has a card with a weird-ass name, I dunno why it's not just Peni Parker but I guess she gets her own card as well maybe?

>>96164471
Where's the Penni (and not the shitty Rivals one)

>>96164465
second effect reads like an un-set card

And Noir is Black, because haha do you get it.
Man, I like Spider-Man and already these cards feel super uninteresting.

>>96164481
Peni's in with what seems to be something more like her OG comic design rather than the movie design or the Rivals one, which probably is gonna throw some people for a loop.

>>96164489
>better exalted plus surveil
whitesisters in shambles

>>96164471
>you can't cast spider-man 2099 your first, second or third turns of the game
why?, he is not even than good

>>96164501
>5 mana
lol

>>96164502
Because he's from the future. It's a flavour-first design but they forgot to make the downside worth it. Compare to Jace Reawakened which, while not THAT good, is at least "yeah this makes sense to have that restriction".

>>96164502
>2/3 double strike vigilance for 2 that shocks something end of turn if you played a land
going to aether vial this out in modern

>>96164502
He has the potential to deal 6 damage in a single turn. 2 power double strikers are usually 3-4 mana.

>>96164520
The land needs to be played from exile.

>>96164292
Guys, something important to note.
You can cast Spider Man already transformed, the backside has a mana cost.

>>96164471
If this wasnt legendary you'd see UR Prowess shit out 2 of these turn 4. Play a land turn 5 and just clear thr board for planispheres to get in

>>96164538
>>96164549
I take that back thats way too specific what the fuck

>>96164520
>for 2 that shocks something end of turn if you played a land
not quite, anywhere except your hand anon

These Spiderman cards look too silly for me. Every day I feel more vindicated that moving on from Magic and finding other games to play was the correct decision. For a brief moment in time I was super-invested in Magic, it was the only game I played, it was what I lived and breathed, but that time is no more.

>>96164471
Not that bad, clearly not meant for standard.

>>96164541
Yeah, that kinda threw me too. Makes sense, Peter doesn't have to go out and suit up all the time, he's sometimes just already in the outfit. I can see them doing this for others too. Miles and Gwen will probably have similar things.

>>96164566
Okay nm trashcan it
None of these seem playable so maybe it'll end up like FF and it'll just be like 4-5 cards total that see play anywhere

>>96164573
i tried it but all other TCGs are either dead or worse and don't offer what Magic can offer. flesh and blood is boring, i actively despise one piece, pokemon is dull and yugioh is worse then modern at its worst

>>96164541
>You can cast Spider Man already transformed, the backside has a mana cost.
and?, he is still a frech vanilla 4cmc dumb dumb

I realise what the Spider-Man cards are reminding me of, the Assassin's Creed set, everything so far feels kind of underwhelming. We're pretty sure Spider-Man was meant to be an AC-sized set at some point, right?

this set sucks harder than final fantasy somehow
at least Final Fantasy kind of fits the MtG aesthetic
now we have waifus piloting robots and literal comic book superheroes
and the set after this is a literal children's cartoon

>>96164641
Avatar is unironically infinitely more fitting than spiderslop but they are probably going to include way too much Korra shit

>>96164685
I think they pretty solidly specified Last Airbender so I wouldn't be surprised if there was no Korra at all.

>>96163760
I wish FIN had some regular sagas desu
still pretty analdevestated that the only card named after a song is just W giant growth

>>96164685
No Korra only the first series.

>>96164538
> to be played from exile.
No, anywhere other than your hand, so from the graveyard or the top of your deck also work.

>>96164471
>reworked eoe commander card designed around warp/crucible effects

>>96161078
Oh no no no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzNlOS0RO5w

is he right?

>>96164751
yeah she's lesbian

>>96164773
I'm not watching all that

>>96164773
just like he's not reading all that, I'm not watching all that

>>96164773
>16 and a half minutes
I'm not watching all that.

>>96164773
what are the nirvana high paladin and endymion of mtg anyway

>>96164784
>>96164780
>>96164779
based

>>96161479
>set with cute girls sells better than the set with spiteful race swaps
>proves that sets can sell well without egregious One Ring/Bowmasters-level power creep (Vivi notwithstanding)
I'm not seeing the problem

>>96164809
FF BAD! Give me more strong black womyn of color that are lesbians GRRRR

>>96164809
Lotr was designed with eternal in mind so its power creep should be compared to Horizons levels of bullshit

>>96162448
Best draft format of the last two years easy

>>96164830
mogged by FF

>>96162777
Painlands haven't rotated yet

>>96164809
By that logic LTR proved race swaps aren't an issue, because it sold better than all previous sets.

>>96164479
DO THING
DRAW CARD

I can't believe i would be alive to see the end of Magic: The Gathering as a somehow interesting and appealing TCG but, yep, Peter Porker and Spiderman Noir is just enough for me...

>>96164887
It only proves that Hasbro left an insane amount of money on the table by letting an insane tranny turn Tolkien's work into another monument to Saint Floyd. We're talking orders of magnitude here.

>>96164928
Is that the new cope? We're just making up shit based on what ifs now? I guess Hasbro left an even greater amount of money on the table because they hid Lulu's cleavage in FIN. It would've broken a billion, trust me bro. Hell, maybe a few billion more if they had special pin-up art for every girl.

>>96163344
>How will /mtg/ cope?
People point at line going up
and say, "Line go up forever!"

But people that know line soon go down
watch line go up and shake their heads.

>>96164928
>another monument to Saint Floyd

the literal same employees from interracial porn sites run Wizards of the Coast, that is not a joke. the "game" of Magic: the Gathering exists only to promote miscegenation which is why black is inexplicably the most powerful color and can do anything

>>96165083
Take your meds anon

Honestly what do the stockholders even do with all this money
200.000.000 sounds like such an absurd value to make in one day.

I m losing my shit on those spooder man cards.
This is so bad, lmao. And somehow they will make those cards in arena with other skins?
HAHAHAHA

>>96165119
Peter Porker=Garruk, King of the forest

>>96165119
>And somehow they will make those cards in arena with other skins?
And that's a good thing.

>>96165146
Remember the creature types have to stay the same. So somehow they'll need to bend over to create a legendary spider boar hero

>>96165166
ravnica or duskmourne spider niggas probably

>>96165166
Multiverse is vast. Domri will ride a boar along Hatchery Spider. They already did character combo cards in that one set i forgot about, ONE maybe.

I never thought they would have the balls to shit this card on real Magic players. I mean shit on Cummander crew okay, i even could accept some jokes like Black Aragorn for Modern paypiggies to get mocked but... This is for all players i can see now Porker or Noir into Legacy or Pioneer...

What a disgrace.

>>96165217
this is like China's century of humiliation, everyone at wizards wants to literally k*ll every magic player

I’m beginnin’ to feel like a Premodern God, Premodern God

All my creatures swingin’ like we back in Mirage, Mirage

spiderman in standard is a step too far, I am skipping EOE and that dogshit, won't quit mtg for good unless I come back after spiderman and it's just another marvel slop set

>>96165299
take the universes within pill

>>96165299
SPM, they should have named the set SPH

this is straight up BDSM-level mockery of their own "fans"

>>96163544
Is reach a mono white ability? I know archers were white way back when but that was when archers tapped to ping attacking/blocking creatures

I told you doge
I told you about UB

final fantasy really wasn't that bad, it was all fantasy stuff still at the end of the day.

Spiderman is just an insult to fans

MTGbros... Where things go so wrong? Maybe we gave too much power to casuals?

>>96165364
Commander.

>>96165319
Yes but it is rarely given. It is given as a defensive version of flying.

>>96165217
Pioneer as a format is over. The eternal UB Izzet Prowess life has begun.

Can't wait for the Naruto expansion, bros!

rick and morty is next, wubalubadubdub it's pickle rick now as a planeswalker commander

>>96165339
We went from UBKino to UBslop ridiculously fast

I can't wait for Steven Universe!

>>96165450
if they let rick call someone a retard uncensored in flavor text i'll accept this

>>96165468
I bet they'd make morty into a black kid (but not change rick, so it has cuck undertones)

>>96163544
The art reminds me of that movie adaptation of Sin City

>>96165474
burp, I took away our white privilege morty, it was the only way they would let us in here, we gotta watch out for the cops now morty, burp, quick equip this friend chicken bucket grandpa has to call some vampires slurs i'm allowed to use now

Arena won

>green is the creature color
>all the best creatures are "B"lack

very deep lore

>>96165384
Doesn't look like it.
In the modern era of MtG there are 2 Final Fantasy cards, Hundred Handed One (which is probably a bend for top-down design reasons), Dragon Hunter (see above), and an Ass-Creed card.
It's not used as a 'defensive version of flying', it is used in UB slop because the retards designing UB don't understand how to design Magic cards, and is used very rarely to make designs flavorful. There is no mono-white card printed after 7th edition that has reach as "a defensive version of flying"

I haven't played much, but wouldn't a blue deck (or some combo with blue) be intensely fucking annoying with EOE's new warp gimmick? Cheap shit out the ass with instants/flashes all over the place.

I swear if Spiderman set is slop i am taking the Premodern pill

>>96165450
Didn't they already made a secret lair about it?

>>96165530
>blue card... good
fuck anon, you're a genius. How hasn't anyone thought of that before?

>>96165532
marvel is inherently slop, it is ground zero of absolute slop

>>96158396
you bend x when you cast a color so firebending 2 means you firebend for 2 when you've cast a red spell
cast an izzet spell triggers both firebending and waterbending

something stupid like that, considering the transform side of the card

>>96165530
no shit anon, they practically designed it to be broken

>>96165532
Come home...

>>96165507
>no crumbling vestige
pathetic

>>96165539
Nigga I've barely played 10 hours of mtg. I just like "haha my turn is any time I want" blue decks.

>>96165563
they banned my kino land tax draw power combo

>>96165532
What you expect?
You think we can improve this >>96164465? The slop is guaranteed

>>96165584
I mean, Spider-Ham is a thing that existed for a long time.

>>96165584
It needs foxes for it to be good. It should've had 20 creatures rather then 18.

>>96165587
I feel like nobody was really clamouring for him, to be fair. From the grounds of a relatively loose Spidey fan, Spider-Ham is just sort of "that silly joke character that shows up occasionally". I hope this set isn't just "Hey do you remember Spider-Verse" over and over, though. At least give us Kaine and Ben if you're gonna do ALL the Spider-People, and, hell, the various Spider-Women that haven't shown up really anywhere but the comics (most of whom have like zero relation to Peter at all it's weird).

>>96165608
It's so you can have animal tribe commander.

the pony release killed magic

>>96165640
>mlp
>not spongebob

>>96165674
>>96165674
>>96165674

>>96164479
Why is she named Peni and not Heni? Hmm.

>>96165640
the pony was secret lair exactly the place for shit like this, not legal anywhere

>>96165695
>>96165677
yeah but it sold really well and people kept using it to make real commander decks, opened the floodgates

Why even call this game Magic the Gathering anymore? The namesake means nothing now.

>>96165680
...Because that's her name?

>>96165698
Of course it sold really well. It was a comic con exclusive

>>96159959
I went through an old binder, from around when I started playing (2012-2014 sets mostly) and just put the cards on cardmarket