Thread 96158300

Kharadron Overlords Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96151919

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
Warscroll Maker: https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/ sharty won jannies lost
List Builder: https://www.newrecruit.eu/
Army Reminders: https://aosbattleorders.co.uk/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Thread Question
We got Order Dwarfs, we got Chaos Dwarfs, what's your pitch for Death Dwarfs or Destruction Dwarfs?

>>96158300 (OP)
FS are destruction dwarfs

per our conversation in the last thread, you guys talked me into it. I ordered a KO Spearhead.

If nothing else I'll be able to run it as the RoR in my Cities

>TQ
Please no. I’d rather deal with storm casts being in other grand orders than dwarves. If dwarves want to find themselves fighting on the side of destruction or death, let it be for ur gold.

Just a reminder to everyone that this is what an actual game of Age Of Sigmar, being played to its fullest capacity by the fullest type of game product consumer

>>96158300 (OP)
What are they even fighting

>>96158381
Some AI slop

>>96158300 (OP)
I feel like there's room to do an interesting counts-as Ossiarch duardin army. The regular infantry and characters are all duardin, but the bigger bone constructs are kinda like the Wrathlords for Eldar in 40k. Robots animated by the souls of the dead. And for the same justification too, it keeps their souls away from Nagash. It would be very thematic for duardin, the souls of their ancestors are with them always, and when they die they literally join their ancestors.

I can almost picture the count-as Katakros kit in my mind, you've got the Duardin king on his throne, with a bodyguard, a runesmith, a guy with a big book, and a standard bearer gathered around him. Pretty dwarfy.

The tricky thing would be figuring out a good aesthetic for the bone soul robots.

>>96158376
cool man, looks like you're having fun

>Probably the coolest Death minis I've seen in a long time
>OOP for years after seemingly only being available for maybe a year
Why would GW discontinue this and never release it as a regular kit? I want it. They're so cool.

>>96158415
not even close

>>96158394
I’d be cool with boner duardin as long as they kept their beards

>>96158300 (OP)
>Death Dwarves
Kharadrons resurrected as ghosts to pilot their suits. Rubric marines IN SPA- or wait, fantasy

chorfs discussion anchor post

thoughts, wishlist, alternate colorschemes, etc

>>96158420
Same reason they removed the warcry chaos cults.

>>96158508
Which is?

>>96158502
>Thoughts
I try not to
>Wishlist
Trebuchet that flings a cannon into the backline. A whole cannon.
>Alt Schemes
Neon metallic green and blue beards

>>96158502
Thoughts
>Overall I like them, but want to see more mechanical monstrosities.
Alternative colour schemes
>Bronze armour, black cloth, purple flames/magic

>>96158502
A train in the 2nd wave is already pretty much confirmed considering the cannon has a latch on the back you could attach a vehicle to

>>96158502
>Dominator Engine
WTF this is literally what I was thinking of yesterday for a big soul burning furnace monster for the Nighthaunt to diversify them from just sheet ghosts.

>>96158613
Votann didn't get a train, Chorfs aren't getting a train. Trains just don't make sense in modern 40k or AoS

>>96158420
>They're coming back in a combined box
Fuck it, I'll buy it just for them. Hopefully it's not wildly expensive...

>>96158502
>Thoughts
Disappointed that they didn't meet my expectations for industrial or diabolic visuals
>Wishlist
I'd say "More stuff in the style of the Anointed Sentinels" but I really doubt this army will ever be something I buy in to beyond bull centaurs and hobgrots to use in TOW
I'm sticking with Skryre Skaven for my AoS army

What would an elite-heavy Soulblight army look like? Is it just all vampires?

>>96158716
>Is it just all vampires?
Only list I remember being "competitive" was the big dragon dude and all blood knights.
Sbgl is pretty diverse with its roster though so you can put anything in it and you probably wont be hurting yourself.

>>96158502
>thoughts
Big ups to GW for actually releasing something that resembles a fully realized army, for once. Having options with listbuilding and meaningful choices to make day one will be nice. I'm cautiously hyped.
>wishlist
You mean aside from the choo-choo? Incarnate of the Forge; a gestalt entity composed of innumerable daemons that have been reduced/refined into nothing more than a literal and metaphorical weapon.
>alternate colorschemes
The default color scheme is giving "we really need to move some tesseract glow" and is fine, I guess, but I'm going to be skewing more towards classic chaos dorf colors for mine.

>>96158300 (OP)
>death dwarves
Mortek Guard. They smoll.
>destruction dwarves
They are called fyreslayers

>>96158420
Discontinued because GW hates a release not having DEI and women.

>>96158810
i actually think all the death armies are about to get squatted in the next few years

>>96158680
>Wanted the skellies but oop
>Wanted the fec ghouls but only in the duo box i dont like
>Play SBGL so I like the zombies
>Like nighthaunt so the ghosts are cool too.

This box is like, a fucking dream for me. Ive never been gifted a box so perfect.

Why does every unit champion have to be a woman now?

>>96158849
after millions of years they've learnt from their mistakes in the old world and now chaos dwarfs have sex

>Zondara's Gravebreakers
>Ironskull's Boyz
>Hedkrakka's Madmob
>Daggok's Stab-ladz
>The Chosen Axes
>Stormsire's Cursebreakers
>Gryselle's Arenai
>Brethren of the Bolt
These are some of the last underworld warbands that are left oop. Some are probably never gonna see the light of day again...because they were fatcast or a bonesplitta....but still. Wonder how they're gonna wrap up the last of them.

>>96158849
Anon thats a dual kit so it could be a man or a woman. There are no kits with a solely woman champion.

>>96158849
Women are more capable leaders than men and it's time wargames reflected that

>>96158849
it doesnt. both of those units come with male champion options

there is a possibility that the demon fuel on all of their weapons gives them crit mortals. zoom ins on the war despots datasheet show that he has crit mortals on his glaive. this could be what all the little demon power orbs do.

>>96158939
>Melee foot hero who seems to have an ability that makes a friendly unit fight in sequence
MAKE IT STOP

>>96158940
At least this one gives them a bonus of some sort. It's the worst when it's just a chain fight.

>>96158940
GW fucking sucks at writing these 5-6 wound combat foot heroes, they seem to think this chain fight thing or control score mechanics actually do something in the game, which is just further evidence that the only game mode they play at all in the studio is spearhead where these shits actually matter

>>96158680
Didn't they already re-release Briar Queen in some other box?

>>96158959
>>96158955
>>96158940
you know, its funny because 40k solved this problem. its 5 wound melee foot heroes are some of its most valuable and sought after units in the whole game, some armies even live or die by them.

turns out all you have to do is let them join units so they cant be singled out except by assassins, drop their points to sub 100, give them a strong buff, and occasionally a beatstick melee profile with like 8 or 10 cleave attacks

why aos cant seem to figure this problem out for 10 years straight when the answer is staring them in the face from across the office is frankly embarrassing

>>96158975
i feel like they've rereleased the briar queen in at least 200 separate boxes

>>96158977
Kek exactly. My death guard army runs on foot slogging heroes buffing units and vehicles.

>>96158977
Incorporating it in Aos in past editions would have been really controversial for a number of reasons, but for 4th, I mean, I guess it could be done. You’d probably need to review some rules and change things here or there but fuck it, Aos has been 40gayed.
I’m still going to hope that the next seasonal campaign we see hero’s grant unique bonuses to their regiment, it’s such a brain dead thing to do ( balance is another thing), that I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.

So at this point, we've already been 40kified, why not just play the way more popular 40k? Why bother with AoS at all?

>>96159101
Aos Models are better, setting is more fun, game is still different in some key ways like less and shorter range shooting, double turn, spillover damage, still have proper spellcasting and prayers, etc

>>96159101
Most of the options for armies in 40k are lame

>>96159101
I don’t want to deal with stinky players, Metas constantly shit, crusade is a dogshit game (I’m genuinely grateful for ravaged coast), no magic, shitty terrain, extremely easy to get feelsbadman moments. Games also take longer than they should, I think people arguing for alternating activations in Aos are retarded but 40K needs to at least experiment with it. Also I have better narrative games in Aos even with 4th.

>>96158376
You've posted this 7 times today

>>96159152
Don’t give it attention.

>>96159152
This is the saddest shit

On a scale of 1 to 10, what rating would you give the Chaos Chorfs miniatures?
The Bluderbusses are clearly a 0, maybe a 1, maybe.

>>96158977
>drop their points to sub 100
Wow who could have thought undercosting them would make them playable. All the other shit you mentioned it pointless. Stuff can just cost too little to not be played (see infamous 20 big aticks list)

>>96159205
7.5 or whatever, it's good enough and the things i don't like are easily fixed. I'll be sculpting bigger noses and beards on the infantry and adding some spikes and then I'll run them alongside my bighats as ironsworn and expanding my hobgrot force massively

Though I don't see the point in paying 80 AUD for like 5 blunderbuses when they're so readily available with other ranges, would fuck the one girl with the flamethrower though

>>96158975
No. They swaped the Shadespire throwback factions around

>>96159152
It's interesting that one post attacks Warhammer as a whole before zeroing in on AoS in specific. This seems to suggest he's not a TWW secondary like most seethers, as they consider themselves the "true warhammer fans," but instead someone who hates Warhammer as a whole and simply views AoS as the most socially acceptable to attack.

>>96158975
>sub 100 points
Yeah in a game where fucking chapter masters are like 110 points. 40k can accomodate heroes with 10 attacks in a game that has 200 model armies. The only thing AOS needs is good warscrolls

>>96159355
I think he's trying to bait aos players rn and hoping they don't notice the guys iron warriors shirt or all the 40k terrain. If you look at all the threads it's posted in its 100% aos bait threads and then /aosg/ and /40kg/.

>>96158810
This one has cute little feet it's either a girl or close enough for me

>>96158680
Last wave was a great deal, so if they won't mark it up you'll be fine

>>96158502
So the war machines DO have a connector on their backs, so a train being added to the army is definitely not off the table. Personally I have hopes for the return of the Lammasu as well as it bringing along a return of the K’daai Zharr.

>>96159101
90% of 40K is copy-paste recolor space marines. Pure trash.
AoS is more diverse and fun than 40K and TOW.

>>96158921
I'm really worried about supposedly just being able to headswap everything. Beards make that very tricky, not to mention those rims the armor have. I'm expecting like 2 heads per specific body designed to fit.

>>96159537
pretty much every dwarf kit for aos or 40k have absolute shit tons of heads and bits, usually like at least twice as many as there are models in the box. the god damn votann basic troops box comes with like 30 heads

quit panicking until you see the sprues.

>>96159603
Those are completely different cases. Votann and KO all have very short beards/helmets.
Fyreslayers have swappable heads with beards on their infantry and that's why their poses are so wack, so they can fit. Meanwhile a lot of the chorf beards are clearly designed to be sit in a specific way.

>>96159226
>entire unit type that has been largely unused for 4 editions straight is appropriately costed

lol. lmao

>>96159615
the hearthguard also have swappable heads and they are in virtually the same exact pose as the new chorf gunners.

hell, even the whfb longbeards/hammerers and ironbreakers/irondrakes have swappable heads with normal poses. you gonna tell me the chorfs beards are more of a problem than longbeards?

im actually curious how many dwarf kits you've ever personally built? because this thing that you're worried about has been a non issue with every dwarf kit i've ever built, and i own every games workshop dwarf army made so far apart from the forgeworld resin or the early metals.

>>96159639
And that's why hearthguard beards are gimped. They're also naked and nothing else obstructs them.
>hell, even the whfb longbeards/hammerers and ironbreakers/irondrakes
And they all literally have the exact same shape of beard with minor details changed that only sits one way.
>im actually curious how many dwarf kits you've ever personally built?
Fucking all of them unlike the people I'm arguing with now.

>>96159641
lol okay, everything looks bad. the world is ending. the beards wont be swappable and you'll have to field women, all your worst fears are true and games workshop is bad.

that what you want to hear?

>>96158502
>Thoughts
Good overall, don't love every decision but I'm certainly more pleased than disappointed. At this point moreso waiting to see what lore they have planned to make up my mind as to if I'll collect them or not.
>Wishlist
Elite Dwarf heavy infantry, Bull Centaur hero, another Daemon engine or two.
>Alt Colorschemes
Basic bitch but if I ever collect them the classic Red and Black primary, Blue, Gold, and Bronze secondary colors. The Green color for all the magic/demon shit on top of the weapon designs really makes the Legion WoW comparisons stand out.

>>96159649
If I just blanket hated everything why would I even wonder about headswaps? I just expressed a concern and had the GWIDF jump down my throat.
Anyway I'll go work on some dwarfs now.

I miss them...

>>96159664
Get the fuck out of here townigger. FUCK YOU.

>>96159683
The dwarfs in question: Fyreslayers and Votann

Why does the overlords have a fat black woman on their book cover?

>>96159701
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion policies. Also much of the AoS design team are radical leftists who hate white people.

hello anons
am looking for the 4th ed Skaven battletome

many thanks

>>96159415
By the underworlds warband: All of them are sons of Velmorn (literally sons). The big one is a bastard son that Velmorn put as the head of his guard/huntsmen or something like that and the other 3 are his heirs (next in sucession, when they were alive) and are act like the 3 scrooges...
It is a cool warband.

>>96159710
I forgot those existed

>>96159537
Seems like its gonna be real finnicky, but as seen with the guy who has a hammer, some might have their beards tucked into the armor

>>96159710
I wonder how these would look with iron golem heads

>>96159681
I wish more monster kits came with an open mouth sculpt and a closed mouth sculpt like skummdrekk. It's a cool way for people to have slightly different versions of a monopose sculpt

>>96159710
https://files.catbox.moe/y4dy4e.pdf

>>96158502
I love them.
Really hoping their rules will be fun and their roster allowing for more than one battle plan.
Lore also seems really enticing to me.
>wishlist
A Lammasu, or some sort of greater deamon/verminlord equivalent. A centaur hero.
And if they get terrain; Let it be a drill pod for deep striking some slow ass dwarfs onto the enemy's side of the table.
>alternate colorschemes
The color scheme I've been brewing on since the 3rd edition Chorf teaser is so similar to the colors used for the official one, I feel like it's been made lamer by comparison... Just with more saturated and bolder colors, and no brass.
Basically I was gonna steal this scheme here, including the base.
Not sure If I'm gonna use it now. The armor seems really hard to replicate on the scalemail.
It would turn out very purple and gold, and much less black if I sponged or drybrushed the scales gold.
>>96158940
>>96158977
IKR?? It annoys me because the Despot is supposed to be the true leader of your army, but he's stuck in "borderline useless AoS foot-hero" territory.
He's such a cool mini too.

>>96159819
That's why you have a Despot on a giant monster...

>>96159824
That's a daemonsmith

This is the kind of stuff Chorfs should have gotten

>>96159806
thank you kind anon

>>96159824
That's the deamonsmith, basically your religious leader.
Not the "king".

>>96159847
ew no

>>96159847
So basically the same engine thing they already have, but shaped like a different fantasy monster?

>>96159861
Something that's demonic and scary, isn't a flanderised construct, isn't covered in big cartoony CAD iconography and looks like it can actually move, aim it's weapons ect without being hindered by weird toddler proportions

>>96159847
Hard disagree.

>>96159876
If the model looked like the art it would look a alot better, it's big goofy head isn't the centre of attention

>>96159891
But also what the fuck is that low res book cover

>>96159876
Wait you think the 6 overlaping wings under arms dragon can actually fly?
That thing would self destruct with its first motion

>>96159894
I'm not saying I literally want that exact model from 2012

>>96159876
>covered in big cartoony CAD iconography
It's called cuneiform, and it's an ancient writing system from Mesopotamia.
It's basically chiseled marks, presumably from when the metal was red hot. It's all over the Infernal Taurus' wings too, and on some weapons, and the artillery.
I think it's one of the coolest decorative features on the Chorfs.

>>96159899
Well your image wasn't in sync with the point you wanted to make
I'm all for more weird demon robots

I have to admit I expected more from the Chaos Chorfs, but I still liked them a bit, except for these guys.
They're telling me those metal cones are blunderbusses; they look more like grenade launchers or mini hand cannons than blunderbusses.
I hope for the next edition they change the weapon of the miniature to something more like a blunderbuss.

>>96159894
have you ever seen the model up close? it has jet propulsion up its asshole, wings are just for steering

>>96159925
Well no, i just looke at the attached image and didn't rush to research its butthole

>>96159893
We love unfinished art in AoS

>>96159931
Alex Boyd fell off hard, he used to reduce detail in the periphery which was fine for emphasis but now it's legitimately unfinished pieces
I suppose he's a friend of the higher ups at this point so they won't fire him

>>96159919
The beards are such a disgrace. I get that the ringlets are probably hard to sculpt in plastic but damn.

does anyone have the khorne battletome leak?

>>96159976
>ringlets are probably hard to sculpt in plastic
Counterpoint

>>96159983
heh

>>96159919
These are the most dissapointing parts of the reveal to me too, the "guns" just like shit man. Why would you even call them blunderbusses at this point.
>>96159983
Lel

What if half the chorfs are female because they can't sculpt beards?

>>96158320
These models are just really nice as pieces of art, I might even pick them up just to have them. Blanche doing the concepts shows compared to new stuff.

>>96158502
They look fine, its 100% the bad color scheme. Same as stormcast, ironjawz, lumineth.

>>96160031
>its 100% the bad color scheme
so sick of this meme

>>96158959
Chain fight is extremely good on stormcast heroes, the mounted vampire, the megaboss, the mounted KoS, cairn wraith. Its pretty good on ogroids. What are you complaining about.

>>96159891
i hope this is just wip because this is the most unfinished looking art they've ever put on a battletome, its literally just a triangle with a head and arms

>>96159976
for plastic injection moulding the easiest shapes are triangular and cylindrical?

I don't understand the reactionaries. They took LoA plate, scalemail, and pauldrons then paired them with oldhammer exposed faces and tall helms.
The army is too conservative in design and the main differences are swords instead of axes, exposed arms on fireglaives, and a metallic Taurus instead of a fleshy Taurus. Incredibly minor shit.

>>96158376
But that's a 40k player

>>96160031
Lumineth default scheme is great tho

>>96158502
They need a new cannon.
This one isn't great, the barrel is too small. The rocket launcher is similarly uninspired.
The rest is fine to great

>>96158716
I played it. It's Vhordai, another mounted Vampire, 2 x 10 Blood Knights, 1 x 5 Blood Knights.
The Knights hit insanely hard with easy Rend 3, wounding on 2s when they charge (you take the whatever of Blood subfaction that makes them wound better).

>>96158921
S-SHUT UP.
DONT INTERRUPT MY RANT WITH FACTS

>>96160114
go browse some pictures, they look better in practically anything else.

>>96158939
> Foot hero
> 5A 3/3/1/2
Pottery. God the talent that this company left years ago

>>96159152
British welfare system permits this.
Euro FAGGOTS whine about the US healthcare, but in the US, this poster would already be dead. Food for thought

>>96158939
>>96160132
It didn't have to be like this

>>96160145
This is pathetic and even more pathetic when you think how it's because some of the junior AoS rules writers were such pathetic kiss asses to their bosses they all started doing this because said boss liked the idea for one, unrelated unit.

Tell me more about this plurality of individuals. Is they a Tetra?

Since many people didn't like the design of the Chaos Chorfs, what other miniature designs are considered horrible?

>>96160145
I legit don't know what point you're making with this random scroll.
Is it suppsed to be good because it has ranged and malee? Bad because the melee is worse?

>>96160174
You wouldn't get it because you have no sovl.

>>96160164
> Lore is pro Namarti
> Does nothing to buff Namarti, instead buffs the best unit(s) in the army; eels, sharks, turtle
> Also deliberately made faster than any other IDK foot hero solely so she could keep up with them
At this point I'm half convinced they just let one of their play tester buddies just write the rules for new shit since they don't care about certain armies (IDK, Nighthaunt, etc) at all. The OG Nighthaunt book, which read like a fan made army list with all its idiotic power, supports this idea

Does anyone know if hobbits or a hobbit-like race exist in AoS?
Dwarves and goblins don't count.

>>96160132
yeah he should be 11 attacks and hit on 6s while giving his target +1 save, and you suck your opponents dick whenever he rolls sevens 2s.

>>96160167
Stormcast and Cities of Sigmar have many models that I don't like for reasons I won't reveal.
Chocolate.

>>96160189
There's two black library mentions but it's hard to say if that's reflective of anything given black library is practically it's own canon
Harrowdeep casually mentions a Halfling amongst the people being tortured there but that could be because it's a place out of time and an extinct race could exist there so...
They're apparently mentioned in Godeater's Son but I haven't read it.

>>96160189
You're talking about hallfing, no, they don't exist in AoS, and I hope it stays that way.

>>96160205
gluttos has one on his chariot

>>96160194
> Always think about sucking another man's dick
Why are gays so obsessed with sex.

>>96160217
show me the thumbnail to see if it's true.

>>96160202
Could just be a chaos mutant thing in Godeater's, but they are rangers
>>96160217
That's a homunculus, is it not?

>>96160221
Because they cannot and will never know the taste of a clam.
With bread, butter, and vinegar

>>96158939
I don't buy that theory at all. StD gets crit mortals for chaos lords (it's part of the chaos lord upgrade in the anvil) and have it in other places, but it's hardly army-wide.

>>96160222
>>96160223
no clue

>>96158939
>>96160132
Isn't this just the profile that means 'doesn't really fight'? Like I think the new khorne deathbringer is D3 with crit (2 hits) and has an ability that basically just kills a model from any unit he's engaged with.

I don't really understand why AoS has limited itself so much in foot heroes while releasing more and more of them as token mini releases alongside army books, but for whatever reason this is the generic hero attack profile.

>>96160233
That's a dwarf, but not a fantasy one, a normal dwarf, a man with dwarfism, so you understand me.

>>96160244
my mistake i meant hallfing not dwarf.

>>96160239
The new deathbringer is actually unusually killy for a hero in his weightclass. I fully expect someone to win a tournament with the gorechosen AoR and a bunch of those dudes, mighty lords and some other random heroes sprinkled in to taste.

>>96159101
I still like spearhead because it's simple and fast.
4th edition list building became a clusterfuck of trying to make a list that can score points and not kicked off the board by an opponents double turn.

>>96160229
Clam is better in soup or pasta

>>96160223
>>96160233
Halflings have always been the best chefs in Warhammer, so Glutos simply had to have one. (Note the bare feet.) Now whether he found one in the mortal realms or suckered up to Slaanesh to have one plucked out of time from the world that was...

The Chaos Dwarfs PDFs haven't been released yet, right?

>>96160037
It's not a meme when you see all those listed painted differently and they look good

>>96160257
The little ones probably do exist in AoS but nobody cares about them in the slightest.

>>96160250
I doubt it, they are slow and the game is about holding objectives.

>>96160276
Well, I'm gonna see if I can give it a try at least. 15 or so angry dudes running about being surprisingly tough to kill seems like a good time, and you can hold down at least one objective extremely well with the warlord trait.

>>96160276
They get some movement buffs and an item that gives a hero +20 OC. I think it's an interesting army. Difficult to play but I don't think it's weak.

>want to do something
>have tons of greytide
>can't decide on schemes for anything so can't work on anything
I dub it crippling indecision disorder

>>96160295

i had the some issue, i sold almost everything and started fresh

>>96160258
Bro. They have only just announced them, give it at least until pre-orders are announced.
It's pretty fair to assume it's at least a month until then, so best case scenario would be mid September. Even then, that's probably way too optimistic

>>96158376
Its 40k table with 40k terrain
>b-but I can swear they play AoS!!!
Cool, means their club is dogshit and only has cheap as 40k ruins slop.

Any Khorne pdfs going?

>>96160322
Rules only so far

>>96160330
Got a link Senpai?

>>96160322
Only up to the 3rd edition bro.

>>96160335
https://files.catbox.moe/p1kjm5.pdf

>>96160301
Maybe I'll just bust out some tomb kangs. At least I can paint the bone

Even when Hashut and Lumineth's Hellsmiths have big bull monsters, you can still tell which one is an elf and which one is a dwarf.

>>96160348
thank you based anon

>>96160360
Not like this...

>>96160366
Miniatures don't count because they are not to scale.

>>96160360
But what, why do the high elves of AoS have a bull-headed golem?

>>96159919
Yeah, I think they just wanted them to be Blunderbusses for the callback, but they even said that these are long range guns! Which is the opposite of what a blunderbuss is.
The flammenwerfers look much better too in my opinion.
Also, I know warhammers loves topknots, but I still don't. Irks me a bit because i don't wanna use the woman unit champ.
>>96160360
Kek.

>>96160390
What animal do you associate with Himalayas? (Yeti is taken)

>>96160258
Come back in late September/early October.

>>96160390
you know how wood elves are in touch with the spirits of the forest?
lumineth are in touch with the spirits of their land, river spirits, mountain spirits, wind spirits etc, each have their own totemic animal of sort and the mountain spirits have some kind of bovine, the wind spirits have foxes, the river spirits are water horses and we have absolutely no idea of what zenith is meant to have or be expressed.

>>96160390
High elves of AoS had an event called the spirefall where their civilizations got too high on their own farts and nuked their own lands.
Now they're trying to course correct, and have been going around befriending and mastering the philosophies of the elemental spirits of the natural world.
The bulls are fuck huge avatars for the spirits of different mountains to dwell in and control.

What are the cities of Sigmar inspired by? I say this because their aesthetics always seemed curious to me.

>>96160436
Slop.

>>96160436
Just general medieval/renaissance Europe.
If you've ever looked at old books they've literally got those weird impossible scribble animals coming to life as manifestations of the realms wishes for natural order (and not to be chaos corrupted) fighting along side the crusaders as they settle the land again.

>>96160436
The shirld gunner thing is from Czech Republic apparently, but i dont think there's 1 specific thing, especially with various CoS having their own things, like Settlers Gain having obvioudly Chinese architecture, or Lethis being based around a river from Greek myths

>>96160434
>>96160435
but even so why did they have to make him skinny he looks horrible.

>>96160449
>why did they have to make him skinny he looks horrible.
Because elfs. And yeah, it looks weird to me too.

>>96160434
>the wind spirits have foxes
Why the fuck is this the case anyway. Are foxes associated with the wind in asia or something ? Or is it because tyrion already took the bird theme.
>>96160436
There were some articles about the design philosophy etc when they came out, roundtable or something it's called. You can probably still find it on warcom. Anyway they're mostly generic late medieval with some early renaissance creeping, when looking at the fusilier handgonnes for example. Tahlia has some indian design cues, and then there's the whole diamond shape motif across the wider range.

>>96160295
When you get over army uniformity you can relax and paint units/regiments how you fancy

>>96158834
Do we know any release window?

>>96159919
They can be made to look more like blunderbusses, but you gotta shave the mouth and paint them in at least two contrasting colors, one for the barrel, one for the "stock", because by doing that you are able to delineate a much slimmer start of the barrel, instead of the normal impression of it being rounded at the base.
5.3 MB
https://files.catbox.moe/wl0nj0.jpg

>>96160462
I think they just wanted to make a kitsune.

>>96160436
they have slight ww1 elements I don't care for.

>>96159919
No one would bat an eye if they were helfyre fartguns(read: evil drakeguns) or whatever but calling them blunderbusses was a mistake and just makes it seem wrong.

There is canonical Chikistrikis content from AoS, meaning content for people over 18.

>>96160462
>Why the fuck is this the case anyway.
don't ask me, I guess they wanted all mammals and the fox is quick, nimble and archetypical clever/whimsical

In the AoS board game, which skills are the most broken?
The ones that can make you win, not the ones that make you lose.

>>96160497
slaanesh is a parade of nsfw stuff.

>>96160449
to make it look elven

>>96160489
>No one would bat an eye if they were helfyre fartguns
I would, because then they would have missed the opportunity of redoing blunderbussies

>>96160543
I'd still take it over this.

>>96159152
Unfathomably based truthnuke spam chad doing gods work

>>96160509
Strike First/making your opponent strike last.

>>96160559
You could at least try to not be so fucking obvious. Also you should be able to post an image only once per board, not per thread. Crossposting bullshit is unironically cancer

>>96160575
Uh oh maldy
Don’t like it? Maybe make some fucking terrain and paint all ur dudes. Then you can post the After pic

Which god-king has managed his empire better?
Giga-Chad Sigmar or the virgin skeleton sitting on a golden toilet.

So at this rate Fyreslayers getting a KO style release with more diversity quotas is basically guaranteed right?
I miss when AoS was just bros killing shit together. Except for the elves, but they're elves.

>>96160624
worse, fyreslayers are inbound for a complete redesign in the next edition, so it would be closer to what dark dwarfs got, not kharadron

>>96160609
Nagash, though I don't think his throne is golden

>>96160633
As long as they don't have dwarf bald lesbian women, everything will be fine, or maybe not.

>>96160655
I'm talking about the virgin skeleton from 40k, not the virgin skeleton king from AoS.

>>96160655
it will be once he's finished with sugmar and his stolen stuff

What are the months where there are discounts on AoS boxes?

>>96160698
Christmas has discount boxes for Aos and 40k.
Used to be 4 armies each, but now it's like 6-7

>>96158300 (OP)
Soon

>>96158300 (OP)
>Death Dwarfs
We already have ghosts.

>>96160633
man I hope so. The Flameseekers are such a small tweak to the design, they keep all the Fyrelsayer elements but work so much better because of a few small detail changes. They prove that dwarfs who live in volcanoes instead of mountains is a solid idea that GW ahs figured out how to look good.

Replace the basic Berzerker kit, add in two or three units that aren't just more infantry, add a smaller mounted hero, you could have a really fantastic army

ah finally chorf rules, time to print

>>96160698
>discounts
lol...rofl...you're serious? Lmao.

>>96160800
Wat. Can't see shit on Warcom, do they update their website differently in different timezones?

>>96160698
year round. There are the four Christmas boxes every December, but on top of that every couple months GW will do an army box alongside a Battletome release.

And one of the great things about AoS is that we haven't developed a scalper community or a big sense of FOMO, so limited run combo boxes often stay in stock for weeks or months.

>>96160796
I wanna see more of the guy with the magmadroth skin and his little dragontooth pickaxes. The vulkyn are a way better take on fyreslayers man.

>>96158502
more daemonic machinery, will probably use this as the leader with a rider kitbashed onto his back

>>96159847
will print this as my something, maybe the leader unit with a rider?

>>96160796
Why do they insist on adding dwarven women in warrior roles? They don't see that according to the lore the dwarven population is 99 men to one woman. They should be at home giving birth to children annually and raising them, not going out to fight and risk their lives.

>>96160926
I think you're confusing Warhammer and Smurfs

>>96159847
Why did you use the worst daemon engine design of all time as one of your examples

>>96160862
Simplest would just be to use this as a dominator engine, no ?

>>96160955
Dom engine is quite small

>>96160926
>They don't see that according to the lore the dwarven population is 99 men to one woman
1. Its 1-2 in 10 dwarfs, otherwise they would've gone extinct long ago
2.Different setting, don't think dwarf women being a rarity is a thing in AoS, maybe Grugni fixed that design flaw idk
3.Dwarfs aren't fully utilitarian either

>>96160239
Honestly I have no idea.
They can interesting foot heroes when they fell like it (so mostly elf armies aka LRL). But this guy is clearly just another "I give a single buff to a unit, maybe chain fight" dude.
Hopefully when he chain fights he at least gives a bonus, plenty of these chain fight heroes don't even do that.
There is basically one example of a 'foot fight hero' that isn't unique that is actually GOOD and well priced: the OBR Soul reaper.
90 points, a lvl 1 wizard, debuffs to wound rolls in his combat range, and chain fights with infantry, giving them +1 to hit. He is excellent.
He is proof they COULD write good foot heroes, but they choose not too

"Look we made female chorfs" okay where the fuck are the tzaangors with tits
do that next

>>96160390
Because Stormcast got the dragons in a desperate attempt to boost their sales (they didn't trust griffons or their stupid dragon horses enough).
So they had to find a new animal for LRL

>>96160931
The Smurf village consists of 99 young men, 1 baby, 1 old man, and a female Smurf.
I got the information about the dwarves from the Fantasy Wiki, since AoS and Fantasy dwarves are biologically the same.

>>96160926
arent the flameseekers closer to park rangers than full blown warriors?

>>96161004
The only female Smurf is an alchemical construct much like the dominator engine.

>>96160999
They are with Slaanesh, they are called Slaangors, they are not blue but they come with the whole package of buns, clams and sausages

>>96161019
ERROR since in the new lore there is a whole village of female Smurfs.

>>96161000
no retard stormcast got dragons because thats where they belong, in the best range lol stay mad shitter and enjoy your fucking cows rofl.

>>96161039
Do they only have one male Smurf in their village? This begs some serious questions about social dynamics.

>>96161000
Stormcast had dragons back when you still had milk teeth

>>96161039
>>96161046
Maybe it's like that one place in Ghyran where 1 forest is 100% male, other 100% female and once a year every livng creature migrates to the border to fuck?

>>96161046
NO, both villages of men and women live separately without knowing of each other's existence, as stated before the original Smurfette is an artificial being made of blue clay.

>>96161080
good theory would make sense with everything seen so far.

Are Smurfs a type of Greenskin or closer to a Spite?

Can someone tell me how many models make up a Sons of Behemat army and what their racial abilities are?
Why? They're my favorite faction.

>>96161161
They would enter more with the fairies and pixies.
Arariel's Faction

>>96161186
>how many models make up a Sons of Behemat army
like 4 to 7.

>>96161186
It's always been roughly
1k points = 2 megas
1 mega = 3 mancrushers

>>96161186
You can find their rules index on the warhammer community site under downloads -> age of sigmar -> faction packs -> faction pack: sons of behemat

>>96160813
no i meant as in the release of chorfs there will be rules, instead of that old ass pdf about legion of azgorh

My uncle works at forge world and he said they will try selling Shartor again as soon as they finish rider's hand on some dragon model

Anyone know where I can find the Blades of Khorne leaks? I want to see the army rules that just spam heroes.

Does anbody have the most recent FEC battletome?
I want to read up on all their lore and how people become ghouls before the new one.

>>96161484

>>96160348

>>96161490
https://files.catbox.moe/0dlwbj.pdf

>>96161480
Why was that his name

>>96161480
He doesn't even fit in with the new range so I doubt. GW will also want to make their own plastic bull hero.

>>96161559
Thanks. FEC players are the real champions, I love seeing those little guys scampering about.

>>96161186
Megas are 500~pts
3 Mancrushers are 400~pts
1 Mancrusher is 130pts

Krakeneater is 450, Warstomper 460 but given the points brackets of the others it's all basically 500pt blocks for a Mega or 3 Mancrushers, so 4 - 10

>>96160862
Losing the fire demons undermines their core theme imo, especially now they're leaning heavily into it in AoS.

>>96160756
I hope we get some, fighting alongside Gotrek like that one book. Grungni freed the Duardin underworlds in one of the white dwarf books and rallied them to fight back

>>96161490
Starving people eat the tainted meat offered by abhorrants and become insane cannibals. Ghouls are not true undead just enraptured by the grand delusion of the abhorrant

>>96161396
Yeah, I got it after a while.
Are you the "legion grows" anon that did Chorfs here a while back? I guess 3d printing is the most common way to be into Chorfs nowadays.

>>96161740
GW stole his fluorescent green aesthetic

>>96161490
There's a few ways, the main method is typically if you're desperate enough you'll take what you can get and just gradually become part of the delusion. However in some cases Abhorrants have become so super schizo they radiate an aura of schizo-energy and people nearby just kinda start to lose their minds or believe in the false reality. Sometimes they get flashes of reality but not enough to really stop the whole charade from continuing.

I love the courts man, they are a faction that had some pretty eh models that had the best fucking gimmick and lore slapped on top of it to make it actually really interesting. And as we gradually get more medieval courtly models and Big Ush himself looking FANTASTIC I couldn't be happier if I tried.

>>96161740
yes, dropping WIPs later

>>96160436
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/oe5UZTRk/cities-of-sigmar-round-table-part-one-designing-the-miniatures/

>>96161956
DON'T POST THAT HORSE YOU'LL SUMMON HIM

>>96159978
hyg, just the rules

files<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash p1kjm5<dot>pdf

>>96161740
Lmao those guys were painted like shit.
Can't wait to watch him butcher these much more detailed models

>>96162061
>those guys were painted

that already puts him above 98% of the players in this hobby

>>96162080
Is it odd to say I don't hate people if they're playing with unpainted models, because it means they're actually playing the game? I remember awhile back I posted my Ghouls vs Vampires battle and everyone was dumpin' on the guy for a greytide. But I did have fun and the guy was very nice. (Do wish the table was nicer but all the cool matts and terrain got yoinked and we had to borrow the objective markers from a 40k guy, but he was also very nice) I'm just glad when I can get out and play games (except my last game, I hate Morathi)

>>96160436
We wuz Jan Huss followers an sheeit

>>96162154
>CoS is just alt history where Czechs actually became protestant

CoS were manifested by the collective wails of Dungcore fans.

Hey does anyone have a scan of the newest IDK tome lying around?

>>96162240
It's over their

>>96159710
>>96159806
Hey ratties, can you help me, I keep hearing how the Horned Rat is now confirmed to be Skavor and that Hashut is a brother of his. Just where the hell is this new lore coming from? I’ve been suggesting that for like a decade or more but it’s never ever been a real thing (in WFB), yet it seems like my madman ramblings may have wormed their way into the ears of one of the team members for AoS, so I really want to see the lore bits their talking about.

How much do you think the Helsmiths of Hashut Army Set will cost? Do the Army Sets come with faction dice?

>>96160037
The Stormcast at least absolutely suffer from multiple prominent color schemes being dogshit. There’s a reason they switched it up for 4th edition.

>>96162288
It will cost exactly the same as the Git and Soulblight box, unless they announce surprise inflation adjustments to all boxes

>>96162298
Oh some colorschemes are bad but I don't think that means a model is instantly saved when painted differently.

>>96162285
It's mostly being halucianted based on unreliable scraps of info from the reveal.

>>96162240
Soulblight scan was droped only recently and that came out quite some time earlier.
KO and Khorne don't ahve full scans, only rule sections

>>96162285
If anything, the Skavor lore has been de-confirmed, since a recent White Dwarf suggests that Hashut was once mortal and the Horned Rat wasn't. Anyway, the AoS fluff for Hashut is now that he's an ancestor god that went rogue after being displeased with being given dominion over Ghur.

New to the hobby. I’ve played a couple games of AoS and 40k and they seem like very similar games. With AoS being a slightly simpler/less rule heavy 40k. Why did you guys choose AoS over 40k? I’m trying to pick a game and would like to know. Is it because 40k can seem a bit rule heavy at times?

>>96162288
180

>>96162347
I picked a model line, the "game" gets changed every few years anyway

>>96162347
I dislike space marines

>>96162285
>Hey ratties, can you help me, I keep hearing how the Horned Rat is now confirmed to be Skavor
>and that Hashut is a brother of his.
Old WHF RPG lore, nothing official. Both statements are from the same source. Though I don't think Skavor is the horned rat, just the creator of the skaven.
Except according to the newest WD Hashut is confirmed an ancestor god now.

>>96160258
the /v/tard raider self report is crazy though

>>96162347
I like fantasy more than sci fi

>>96162347
Models are way cooler and I was always a fantasy guy over Sci-fi. I'm not as big a fan of the setting and lore since it's not anywhere near as in depth as Fantasy but the models and general world are pretty fucking sick.

>>96162322
>Soulblight is out
ooo

>>96160360
Stupid sexy mountain spirit...

>>96162347
In my case it was Space Marine fatigue that broke me mid 8th. Release after release was for space marines and even when something non-space marine got something more than a pity hero a new space marine kit would be legally required to tag along. As for rules, AoS being simpler is a double edged sword because I liked the framework of 40k 7e, but there were fundamental balance issues that could’ve been solved with the modern balance approach of being willing to change stats, profiles, or rules, or even just regular checkups on the state of the game. Back then GW only published FAQ’s to fix typo’s or to say “no” when asked “there’s this rules interaction that I might be able to do, can I have fun?”.

>>96160489
Gun autism is the gayest kind of autism

>>96162381
https://files.catbox.moe/rf1m6i.pdf

>>96162397
Cool it with the anti-American sentiment

>>96158502
I don't really like the flat and wide blunderbusses or the energy balls, and swords and spears feel a bit weird on dwarves, but otherwise I really like them

>>96162390
Why doesn't it have utters

>>96162061
i painted them table top standard, how can i solve the issue with paint drying in a second during the summer?

>>96162347
I direct my focus on AoS when I get sick of 40k and vice-versa
Although I am starting to dip into TOW too

>>96162417
Probably because it's not a word

>>96162397
Is it really autism to say "this thing is not the thing it says it is"? Like is it "car autism" to say "that's not a truck; that's a van"?

>>96162425
That’s fair. I still have to play some Horus heresy games and The Old World games before I decide probably. But I am intimidated because I hear both of those games are way more complex than 40k and AoS.

>>96162430
Yes, that's absolutly car autism

>>96162401
Thank you kindly

>>96162464
That's moronic. At that point, there's no substance to that pejorative.

>>96162411
I think the swords and spears speak to the more militarized society of the Chorf warriors. These guys aren't the craftsmen who are called to war like traditional dwarfs (or I guess merchant marine of the KO), this is a distinct warrior class; spears and swords are traditionally seen as weapons of soldiers and warriors (can't use a sword for anything but killing, same really with spears; axes and hammers and picks are seen as tools turned into weapons).

What are the chances of the tribal orruks and chaos furries returning as their own faction?

>>96162347
I just like the narrative more in Aos.

>>96162422
No AC sounds like a poverty issue

>>96162347
>Why did you guys choose AoS over 40k?
I didn't I play both. I like 40k so I can model scifi stuff and I like aos so I can model fantasy stuff. Simple as

>>96162485
Orruks have a very low chance of returning and furries will never ever return as their own faction for being FURIES.

>>96162349
Euros or dollars?

>>96162430
Yes actually. If someone said "bro get in the car! We're going to be late!" And you replied with " Erm... There is literally no car here, I think you mean get in the van?" Then people would call you autistic. Much like I'm calling you autistic for assuming you can identify what magic fantasy weapons look like based on real world sperg shit

>>96162485
Extremely low but they seemed to deliberately write it so that BoC could potentially come back one day by having Ghorraghan Khai and the Morghur-sludge survive the elf attack

>>96162528
But in this case saying "get in the car" is equivalent to saying "the gun". A blunderbuss is a specific kind of gun. If I said "get in the truck" and you jumped into a van, I'd call you a moron and you'd be getting into the wrong vehicle.

>>96162524
Neither of them are Bolivars

>>96162485
Chaos Furies are already back.
Unless you mean when is Legion of the 1st Prince becoming its own faction

>>96162285
The only news we have is that hashut is 100% confirmed to be an ancestor god in the latest white dwarf, he's aiming to climb the ladder of proper chaos godhood and is aiming for the same spot on the pantheon that vashtorr is also coveting.
Everything else is pure speculation, but there's a good chance they will make hashut related to gazul given they have namedropped him in the announcement article of the new range.
>Importantly, we discover just who – or what – Hashut is, and how he relates to Grungni, Grimnir, Valaya and Gazul…

We also know for a fact that the horned rat cannot be skavor himself because the horned rat in the same white dwarf article is called an elemental god like the other 4, while hashut is an ascended god, because he was once mortal.
Meaning that if skavor ends up being truly connected to the skaven beyond the legend then he must have been involved in their creation in some other way that isn't being their god, and judging by his story, he would he the kind of dwarf that would create the rats and let them loose out of spite or ineptitude.

>>96162541
Sure but in this situation you know what a blunderbuss is irl. A blunderbuss in the mortal realms could be very different. Your irl gun autism is completely useless when applied to a magic space world that doesn't follow our history or laws of physics. Nobody finds it impressive or cool that you can point out that it doesn't look like an irl blunderbuss. Rn you're doing the thing marvel fags do where they go "erm warmachhine actually has a triangle panel on his shoulder not a round one according to spidermanXironman #343, so this movie is inaccurate" despite the fact that the movie has nothing to do with spidermanXironman 343

>>96162593
For the record I'm not the poster who originally raised the point about the blunderbusses. I just don't really get the whole "being right about terminology is bad" thing.

>>96162485
DoK are furries now. If Warcry didn't pivot away from Chaos and narrative play I'd have eventually expected them as chaotic beast warband additions but yeah, afaik kill team doesn't get anything fun breaking the one box purchase mould so it's unlikely. Maybe in a UW warband.
I doubt Savage Orruks will return. Ironjawz has been coopting Bonesplitterz fluff and aesthetic, we may even see another shaman adapting more of that or butt naked Brutes or something. Officially their fluff basically wipes them off the map whereas Beastmen are written as lurking and planning a return.

>>96162485
zero chances for savage orcs, ironjaws will get any concept that could even remotely be assigned to them instead; moderate chances for gavespawn beastmen, zero chances for normal beastmen, instead we'll see not!beastmen in kragnos's own centaurs army.

>>96162613
thought you meant harpies
1e chaos had those

>>96162485
I love how much confusion this guy trying to be funny spawned

>>96162582
retreat seems so useless, are you really supposed to expect these guys to survive a round of combat then dash off the round after?

>>96162485
bonesplitterz will return alongside a spiderfang refresh titled Savage Greentide
it'll come with the arachnarok incarnate ;__;

>>96162662
the spider incarnate has actual chances of being repurposed for something though, unlike forest goblins and savage orcs.

>>96162485
The Prophet Anon said they will return, but it's impossible to say for certain.

>>96162662

that named bonesplitterz character that came up in various things with the shrivelled shaman head he keeps on his belt that talks to him was kino

Watch /aosg/ explode when they rebox Headkrakka for Underworlds 2

>>96162697
For me was the reocuring ex-Ironjaw that threw away his armor after understanding savadgery is the true meaning of greenness

>>96162690
literally the second line of this is wrong why would you even repost it

>>96162662
>the arachnarok incarnate
I wonder if GW is just going to pretend this never existed or rebrand it as another model later

>>96162710
It will just be an incarnate for Gitz. Deepkin already paved the way

>>96162709
>literally the second line of this is wrong
you can't possibly know this

>>96162690
this guy was full of shit the only stuff that came true was stuff that was leaked by more reputable leakers previously

>>96162697
yeah, the guy from Firestorm who reappeared in malign portents and then broken realms I think?
I wish the spore ghost of snazzgar stinkmullet got a model alongside a real unique Gordrakk model

>>96162720
gitz came out months ago

I'm new. Considering getting into AoS.
What is the most fun army to play right now?
I'm considering Cities of Sigmar, Soulblight Gravelords and the new Chorfs. Never played, never painted, never collected.

There's quite a lot of CoS bundles available so I'm leaning into that. I could even get the launch set.

>>96162690
Your shit is already wrong, retard.

>>96162748
>Your shit
wrong, also your mother is a whore
>retard
no u

>>96162720
No faction has 2 exclusive sets of evocations

>>96162756
GW famously adheres to consistent patterns
I'm enjoying building my Slaanesh models from Nightmare Quest

>>96162756
Ogors got 2 sets of faction terrain before many factions got 1

>>96162506
Ah hah! Glad to see you're here anon (I know you're always here but still) Do you happen to have a gallery somewhere of your stuff?

>>96162700
People would have to care about underworlds 2 for that to apply, I don't know a single anon in these threads who has had anything positive to say about it.

>>96162745
CoS is a horde army just as a warning, you are going to have to buy a lot of them. But I suggest you pick up a spearhead of one of the three you like, they are really cheap and give you a general feel on how the army is going to play like.

>>96162780
terrain isn't evocations, and their second piece of terrain is just something from warcry, same for the lizards' second and third piece of scenery.

>>96162807
>CoS is a horde army just as a warning
Oh fuck. How bad of a horde army are they?
Not only do I like them but I could even get the battleforce so they were my #1 pick. I don't want a horde HORDE army. I was at a LGS and saw some guy playing 40k Orks. I couldn't handle that. A fucking green tide.

>>96162822
Unless you dip into the dark elf side of them, which I suggest you don't, they play like the Imperial Guard without the tanks. What types of playstyle are you leaning towards?

>>96162822
I mean, nothing HAS to be a horde army. I run FEC with Ushorann, Gargant RoR and 2 Terrorgheists with some heroes and general chaff to walk around. There's always options it just involves having weird builds and multiples of big units.

>>96162651
you retreat before fighting.

>>96162812
His point is that appealing to patterns doesn't work because they're broken often

>>96162851
Doubtful, considering he's bringing up a potential pattern set by idoneth as support of it.

I'd find it more likely they simply get it in replacement of the aracnarok when tow claims it back.

>>96162841
>What types of playstyle are you leaning towards?
I'm completely new to Warhammer but I definitely wouldn't want to move too many models at once. I guess I would start with a shooting heavy army with cavalry? Like shields in the front to be the anvil, knights to be the hammer and bowmen or gunners to soften the enemy up? That's how I would see it. No idea if it works like that on the table or in AoS in general.

>>96162842
I know that my AoS scene is very competitive even in friendly games. I was even told that "we aren't playing to make friends" so I guess they go all out unless it's a learning game. Some guy told me that when he wast starting out he almost quit due to how seriously players take the game here.

>>96162796
Retard we were talking about the 2nd wave of UW2 reboxes of UW1 bands in this thread
>>96158680

>>96162700
>Headkrakka for Underworlds 2
probably only next year. And will be good to have it reprinted.
>>96162796
There are like 2 anons who shill it, but even in other social medias most people prefer 1.0 than Embergard.

>>96162848
you retreat from combat, so they had at least one round it be it charging or charged

>>96162886
> I know that my AoS scene is very competitive even in friendly games. I was even told that "we aren't playing to make friends" so I guess they go all out unless it's a learning game. Some guy told me that when he was starting out he almost quit due to how seriously players take the game here.

The fuck is wrong with those cunts, my local scene is probably as chill as it can get. (Aside from a few people just having lists they enjoy, which unfortunately boil down to tourney lists) but that does in fact suck. I nearly quit too because the first guy I played with turned out to be a massive sweat that brought his fucking 2k point Slaanesh tournament list and proceeded to skullfuck me and not help me learn the game at all. (Side note, fucker sold off his entire

But if everyone's gonna be a massive sweat it might be hard to get anywhere, I usually build my stuff just based around what models I happen to have or just think are cool. See if you can talk anyone over to playing an "unoptimized" or just general lower points game with you to try to get practice in. See if anyone online would be willing to do tabletop sim too if you're really REALLY worried. But at the end of the day, playing is half of this, buy what you think is cool and want to paint or hobby around.

>>96162485
>Tribals
Maybe, with just Ironjawz and Kruleboyz Orruk forces feel a bit empty
>Beastmen
NEVER EVER, at best you will get them as units in other chaos armies

>>96162700
>legends warscroll
irrelevant

>>96162965
>NEVER EVER
this, it's just like when they squatted Gitmob

>>96162904
I only play 1st edition, but i'm hyped for 2nd rereleasing all the long out of print bands.
Too bad they don't come with OG cards, but that's what printers are for

>>96162957
you charge in the charge phase and retreat in the combat phase before combat starts. furies are a daly unit.

>>96162900
I know silly, but my point is more just I dunno if anyone is excited for them to actually play Underworlds 2 with. I imagine most people would just be excited to see Skeletons and Barbarian gang again.

>>96162904
I still have all my 1e stuff, I have nearly every single bit painted and am proud of so many of the paint jobs and do enjoy the game. 2e is just kinda shit comparatively, even if I like the models I just can't bring myself to pick up a worse version of something I enjoy. (Side note, really neat when units become actual units in game. I found out thanks to Snarlpack I have just about enough for a full Gitz army with some random stuff I have floating around)

>>96162993
Good shit anon, took me forever to get these fuckers too. Glad with re-releases people won't have to deal with that.

>>96162959
This is also why I thought CoS might be easier to get into in terms of playing since it can be shooty heavy and looks flexible. They also look pretty good as an army but playing a horde army might be too stressful in the beginning. Unless I stand my ground and shoot.

I can’t believe we didn’t even get a warcom article summarizing the history of AoS for the 10th anniversary. I don’t understand how they just completely snubbed AoS. I feel like the people at GW don’t actually care about the game or setting if it is this neglected. Even during the summer preview the marketers couldn’t hide how uninterested they were in AoS. With an offhand remark of it being 10 years of AoS being met with a literal “ oh…that’s right! “ as if they completely forgot.

>>96163012
I don't know much about cities but from what people have told me it's not the best shooting you can get, and unfortunately as neat as a gun line sounds it's hard to pull off unless you have some absolute bullshit. (rattling gunners) But you could probably get some cannons, a few shooty shield guys, maybe a gargant or centerpiece to draw attention to and keep people afraid of diving too hard, and a couple of those ogres with the sinpers nest on their backs.

My most key point of advice for you: this game is primarily about standing on circles to get points. Killing is to help you safely stand on circles or take someone else's circle. Points are king, you can wipe out their whole army and it means dickall if they've got a big lead on you, or you botched a double turn and now lose out on those precious precious points.

>>96163038
>My most key point of advice for you: this game is primarily about standing on circles to get points.
I see. I'll look at some lists first. Pic related is what I was considering starting with. Well I could also wait for Chorfs. I guess I need to watch some battles on youtube first as well.

>>96163054
Always a good idea to do some research, there's a fuck ton of armys (and I'll say, getting an army secondhand can be suprisingly "cheap" by GW standards) But honestly this is a very good starting point, look into COS though, see if there are any regiments of renown you might want!

Keep me updated though anon, I do enjoy seeing repeat people on these threads and always excited to see people who are new as well.

>>96162993
Nta but hedkrakka's lads are my favourite warband and I don't even like orcs normally. Just a bunch of fun guys.
>>96163054
It's a decent starting point, the founding foray box you posted earlier is great too. If you're into shooting the cannons are great right now. You should also be aware that CoS are rumoured to get an expansion later this edition which may include some more shooting elements (cogforts).

>>96162886
>I know that my AoS scene is very competitive even in friendly games. I was even told that "we aren't playing to make friends" so I guess they go all out unless it's a learning game. Some guy told me that when he wast starting out he almost quit due to how seriously players take the game here.
What a strange oasis of shit you live in. That's the exact opposite I've dealt with at the 4-5 lgs I've ever played at. Usually you're getting retarded who don't even know how all their units work

>>96163069
Thanks for the advice! I definitely want to get into AoS so I'll be hanging around and asking questions. For now I'll look at some lists and battle reports to see how it all plays. Also I'll get things new as I want to make them "mine" and I'm actually looking forward to painting.

>>96163081
Honestly I'm thinking about leaning on shooting as a crutch when I start out. I'm thinking it might be a bit easier. As I've said I kind have a vision of the army I want in my head (anvil, hammer, support). Soldiers move on objectives and hold them, Knights flank the enemy and gunners support by shooting things that come too close.
>You should also be aware that CoS are rumoured to get an expansion
Now I want CoS even more.

>>96163108
>What a strange oasis of shit you live in.
It's apparently that way since WFB.
I think the 40k scene is more chill.
Many people in the AoS circle commission their armies and don't paint at all, just play and trade their armies when they are done with them.

>>96162792
I've got an insta and a reddit I haven't used in a while, but outside that not really. I just post my stuff for fun these days, I got burnt out on social media and I just paint for me now

>>96163015
of course they don't care, the people who fucked up and made aos with all its problems are gone, the ones that remain are practically trying to raise someone's else shitson

>>96162822
They aren't a horde army at all. The current build is about 60 models.

>>96163015
You are really obsessed with this

>>96162841
>they play like the Imperial Guard
why do people think this like they run a bunch of shitter infantry, they don't, at all.

>>96163128
>I think the 40k scene is more chill.
>Many people in the AoS circle commission their armies and don't paint at all
Ì don't think I've ever met a person with a commission painted aos army in my area, that's so weird. You should consider ghost riding a penske truck full of propane canisters through the lgs doors on aos night and improving your local aos scene 1000 times over

>>96163128
I hope it works out anon, I've been pushing around on getting a shooting army. I got in and have all the death armys so my shooting is limited to like 1 unit per army (if that) and I wound up hopping into KB because I have a kragnos floating around and figured I could have him as a frontliner with big scary crossbows.

Other thing I'll say as you get in, I mentioned earlier it can be relatively cheap for AOS. You don't need that many models for an AoS army, and centerpieces or special units are sometimes cross army. Even like a week ago I think Tzeentch is getting an Army of Renown (not sure if it's legends anon's were saying it wasn't) where it's basically a mix of Tzeentch Daemons and COS gunpowder units. I hope your community isn't as bad as it sounds like but regardless hope you can enjoy yourself!

>>96163186
Sounds like the cunt I fought who had an entire Tournament Slaanesh list, lost the Tournament then I saw his entire "painted" (black and white contrast with red dots on the eyes so 3 colors) army sitting the warhammer case for sale. Fuck that prick.

>>96163205
>I hope your community isn't as bad as it sounds like but regardless hope you can enjoy yourself!
Thanks anon. I mean they seem nice and helpful, they just seem very serious about playing. I'm gonna go to one of their local tournaments to see how it really is.

>>96163186
The local scene is quite big (about 50ish people who regularly go to local tournaments) so I'm sure there are some people who prefer friendly games. So far I only encountered the hardcore ones. They are nice but treat playing a bit like a sport. I thought that's how the community is in AoS.

>>96163205
I will never understand the hardcore tournament crowd. Not talking about just going to tournaments but the people only collecting and playing the army to go to tournaments in the first place. Just play vidya at that point. In the end it makes for very cheap secondhand armies so I guess I shouldn't be complaining.

>>96163015
Recent livestream mentioned it but that's about it.
I think it's mostly irrelevant given the recent history of Warhammer articles and 4th edition coinciding with the 10th anniversary close enough and placing emphasis on 1st edition stuff (new libs, tornus, knight questor, etc)

>just paint orange over black shakabrah
Are they cereal?

>>96163371
Base can paint over anything

>>96163405
You've clearly never used orange paint

>>96162886
Your local community sounds like a bunch of cunts, were is it so I can avoid them and shame them

>>96162959
This is shit advice in a sweatlord dominated area.
>>96163012
If you aren't ready to play hard like those cunts, and you don't enjoy getting your shit kicked in (which you will with CoS, they have some strong meta lists but it is NOT beginner friendly for a competitive environment, at all) I would play a different game

>>96162886
I would unironically not bother joining a community. I am not trying to be a downer but spending a grand on minis and paints, putting in hundreds of hours to get them table ready, only to have to play with WAAC faggots is not worth your time.

>>96163723
>>96163530
I feel like I'm the crazy one because I got into all of this for the sake of hobbying and then gameplay came second. Admittedly I've got a decent local community but still.

>>96163723
>>96163755
I mean depending on how autistic the tourney players are you can still get good games in if you really put your foot down. It's definitely harder since these types will often not play casual games if they can't rationalize it as 'practice' for tournaments. But in my experience if you make it a 100% clear that you're new and not interested in a competitive game you'll find people willing to bring a shitter list even in a competitively dominated area.

>>96163847
That's my thoughts, communication. But yeah admittedly like Slaanesh guy who did my "teaching game" some of these guys are too far gone to provide meaningful interactions. I still think if you ask people to just dick around or make fun lists or play for fun you might find some people who'd be interested in trying something different.

A regular I've played a few games with has curb stomped me with their DoK list, I requested next time we play they bring a less... Efficient list we'll say.

>>96163371
it's a thick ass wash, look at it

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/e49o7val/the-big-summer-preview-hunt-for-glory-in-the-depths-of-the-spitewood
Do we know a timeframe for when this comes out? I need this Death box

>>96163860
At the end of the day warhammer and wargaming as a whole tends to skew somewhat to less socially competent people if we're being real. Both in the sense that they may not know how to ask for what they want, or not being able to sense that the opposing player isn't really enjoying the (type of) match they're playing. I found that really being very open about what you're after things aren't so bad even when dealing with competitve types.

That being said, bringing tourney level competitive lists to crush newbies is another level of autism that it kind of crosses over from somewhat innocent "social incompetence" to unrepentant asshole. Imagine telling a newbie "we're not playing to make friends" holy shit. I hope things work out for you anon.

By the way if anyone finds themselves in a similarily sweatlord dominated area, chances are you're not the casual put off by the waac-types. Might be an idea to look for those people.

>>96162886
>I know that my AoS scene is very competitive even in friendly games. I was even told that "we aren't playing to make friends"
That sounds awful

>>96158320
they all just look so sammy

>>96162886
>I guess I would start with a shooting heavy army with cavalry?
I think stormcast is a great pick for you. They are elite, have great shooting units and a few different cavalry options (only gryphons and drakes though, no horses).

>>96164236
And dirt cheap on the secondhand market (especially if you're willing to use fatcasts to substitute whatever is available now)

>acquaintance from discord said that he thought the new HoH were great and that the whiners were just whining for no reason
>he keeps linking Reddit posts daily of recolors/kitbashes/edits that make them look better
If HoH were that good, why the fuck is Reddit of all places making their own "better" versions.

>>96164324
I don't get why people always feel the need to discredit disagreeing opinions whenever there's a model release

>>96164324
people are overall positive on the models but its fairly agreed upon that the studio scheme was a miss. most people can separate the model from the color scheme though, since what you buy is in fact grey plastic

Are there accounts of chaos cultists worshiping nagash by accident?

>>96164324
>making their own "better" versions.
They're not. And he's making a point about how changing the color scheme is actually all it takes to suddenly make a bunch of people like them.
If that's enough maybe HoH is fine, and the official color scheme is just kinda dull?

>>96164431
No, but there are people falling into Chaos by accident from doing everything to get away from Nagash

>>96164324
Imagine hobbying on your hobby. It’s crazy, I know.

>>96164355
Just fanboys being overly defensive I guess. Not that there hasn't been obvious shit stirrers, but its annoying because any legit criticism just gets called trolling.
>>96164410
It's not just recolors, I've seen some editing of the models, but yeah, the colors are for sure the worst part.

>>96164441
It's not about hobbying, the posts say stuff like "I fixed up the color scheme, I think they look a LOT better now". It's clearly fixing something that fanboys are insisting isn't broken.
>>96164436
>And he's making a point about how changing the color scheme is actually all it takes to suddenly make a bunch of people like them.
Again its not all color schemes, there are edits to the models/photoshops to fix things like hats too. Just reminds of how people tried saying Kamandora’s Blades weren't bad, it was jUsT tHe pAiNt jOb

>>96164446
>>96164462
you're obviously completely shitshattered anyone would dare to like them, get a life.

so like, if the chorf men out here being bull centaurs.....do you think the chorf women have cow centaurs? with like big milkable udders?

>>96164537
How are those made again?

>>96164318
Yeah, but fatcasts kinda suck. I hated stormcast for years because of them and the default golden scheme. Them came slimcasts with the silver scheme that made me really enjoy the faction.

>>96164559
Steelhelms look so fucking good in all art I've seen but the models are by far the worst part of the range to me. It hurts bros.
>>96164560
Aren't they just kind of randomly born like that? Basically hashut mutations.

>>96164462
Anon, I genuinely don’t know what to tell you if you think not defaulting to things as the box is not hobbying. This is 40k logic or something.

>>96164462
>fix things like hats too
I saw both the hat style one and the bulls with hats one. One of those originated in these threads I think.
To me it just looks like people are excited about experimenting with the styles for the release. This is like the 4th or 5th style for Chorfs we've seen from GW over the years.
As far as the editing goes, that happens pretty regularly with different releases. Pic related. It's all fun hobbying.

>>96164596
What's the difference?

>>96162347
I don't play either, I just like painting cool models. Both games have stuff that I like and so does ToW. I don't understand the tribalism on this board at all

>>96164626
man 40k lizards seems like it would print money, gw is kinda dumb.

>>96164726
They are cool but they would need to release with exodites and they would either not justify a new army on their own or make eldar too soupy.

>>96162347
Aos cost like half as much, there are only a couple 40k factions I like and some of them came after aos. Fantasy monsters are more fun then vehicles as center pieces.

>>96164726
I kinda hate how good it is. Think there's a 5 year old in my soul that thinks it's the coolest thing ever.

>>96164740
Depends on the vehicle for me. If I do a sci fi army game again though I’m gonna play with OPR though

>>96164726
>>96164739
If they play their cards right exodites could be a moneymaker. Would also be a great way to get people not interested in sci fi aesthetics into the 40k ecosystem too. at least it would work on me

>>96164726
Isn't this why they're spaming Kroots now? To emulate that

>>96164537
We will know when they release a centaur hero and it's going to be a black woman

>>96158502
Gutted that we don't have the nuke hats back

>>96164884
ahead of their time.

>>96158376
AoS players in my LGS all look like that or Auschwitz survivors, while the 40k crowd is all chadlites

>>96164884
This, the silly mesopotamic dudes still got my vote. These aren't bad, but they're... generic.
For a company that is scared of getting its IPs stolen and has to name everything with easily marketable names, it's a weird chocie to discard such a recognizable look and opt for something that every 3D sculptor on the net with a Patreon has already bootlegged.

>>96164884
Those were funny, and they fit the silly old flavor.
But there are some things were I can't fathom anyone thought we'd see them brought into the new releases, even if they just did a typical "1:1 HD upscale" release.
I feel like the next step is to be sad we didn't get the arse cannon.
Not that I think you were expecting the nuke hats. But anyone is allowed to hope.

>>96164324
Have you considered that people may have different opinions from your own

>>96160360
High Elf one looks feminine as all hell, Chorf looks masculine, so where the hell is the baby bovine mecha?

>>96165030
juggernauts

>>96164884
>>96164960
>>96164960
>>96164967
You're right, I wasn't really expecting the nuke hats to return even if they did do a 1 to 1 StD style update of the old stuff. But I would've liked them to embrace the silly of chorfs and stuck to the impractical hats and giant beards. I feel like they took some of the criticism of e.g. cow elves to hearts and tried to do a more muted take on some of their themes, like the hats and beards. Well, for their Infantry at least, the centaurs and characters still have massive ringed beards.

Looking back at some of the old designs and their amazing silliness, I wonder what the reception would be if the oldchorfs never existed and they brought that exact aesthetic to the game. People are complaining that they don't look like classic chorfs now, but I think in such a scenario a lot of people clamoring for them now would be mocking them for being so out there. We would never hear the end of it!

>>96165088
>I wonder what the reception would be if the oldchorfs never existed and they brought that exact aesthetic to the game.
>People are complaining that they don't look like classic chorfs now, but I think in such a scenario a lot of people clamoring for them now would be mocking them for being so out there.
>We would never hear the end of it!
I think you're exactly right.
That aesthetic could only be done in the 90's, in the "red era", with the cartoony sculpts and bold colors.
People would complain they looked like children's toys even if the proportions were matched the the current Dwarfs.
They'd be laughed at more than Lumineth or IDK.

>he's back to shaerkposting
jesus christ this chorf release has fucking mindbroke ben

>>96165182
Am I being compared to Ben for mentioning people laugh at IDK?
The Chorf release is my favorite AoS release anon.

>>96165182
>everyone I don't like is the same person
Not often I see this type of mental weakness in /aosg/

>>96165182
Anon someone mentioning that people make fun of a certain sculpt or range isn't the same as doing so.
I love my KO but I'm well aware they make grogs seethe.

>>96165290
>>96164703

>>96165298
Well don’t visit 40kg then.

>>96165372
Fucking A. /40kg/ is depressing as fuck these days. People barely talk about the game, aside from stuff like reveal stream days.

>>96165369
Oh lel my mistake I thought you were complaining about the guy above you mentioning idk being controversial.
Why does the shaerk make people so mad anyway.

>>96165369
Ah, my bad.

Is Balthasar gold a decent paint for doing some old corroded bronze, or would it be worth it to buy one of the other metallic paints that's actually billed as being "bronze"?

>>96165469
I used to like Balthazar but I feel like it's been ages since I've gotten a good pot for it.

>>96165469
I used it on the figurehead of my boat. I also did a second layer where I mixed in a brighter color, True Brass from Army Painter I think(don't quote me on that). But yeah, like >>96165475 said. Pray you get a good pot.

got to play vs gits today after doing some quick batch painting. Very run overall, him being able to negate a turn 1 charge with an ability and his counter charge really caught me with my pants down turn 1 but he just couldn't get into my sentinels to stop them from just 5+ critting his guys all over the board.

>>96165510
Looking forward to seeing your army all painted up anon, you going for an orange scheme or something ?
Also first time I've seen anyone actually run a full gitmob based army.

>>96165495
>>96165475
I assume a bad pot means it's separated, chunky, or covers like shit?

>>96165558
That and also just general pigment/medium ratio. Sometimes it's too off and it gets gummy or clumpy.

>>96165558
More or less, there's certain paints GW makes where like 4/5 pots are borderline unusable, or the color is just way darker or lighter than usual.

>>96165542
Yeah going for this orange and magenta with an ivory armor and gold trim. Jade gems. It's been fun. I only painted 2 test models and stripped one. But my warden was speed painted and was proof of concept and wasn't in this picture. Also doing a like super heated weapon thing too on the melee weapons.

>>96165581
Magenta is a very underutilized colour that I'm always happy to see more of. Great choice and good luck anon!

>>96165475
i've switched off citadel pretty much entirely at this point. their quality control and pot design is just too shit

>>96165581
Being a new painter and going straight into lumineth is a bold move. They are one of the hardest faction to paint across all GW games.

>>96165633
I'm not the best but damn bro I didn't think putting down some batch base paint layers would get me roasted. I've played a few different armies on and off since early 2e. Tzeentch, S2d, FEC and then took a break in 3 and came back to play lumineth.

>>96165633
They're deceptively easy imo. I found IDK much harder to paint. LRL is almost a sort of "set your difficulty" kind of army to paint. Now, assembly design and ease of painting in sub-assemblies is pretty ass.

>>96165566
>>96165576
What would be the best to use for a good old bronze?

Do Space Marines ever get vacation time? Can Brother Cornelius Explosionshit of the Salamanders ever get to go home for a week and just enjoy himself?

>>96165728
There are no space marines, they’re are barely any marines in Aos besides the drowned men and the pirates of ulgu.

>>96165692
How is it easy? They have a ton of layers and filigree, and the light color schemes make them extremely punishing if you fuck up.
You could argue that they are pretty easy to shade and highlight, save for the animal models, but that's the only easy part of the army.
>>96165676
People do not like greytiders at all. And I guess you're not that new.

>>96165767
I still think it's insane that people think you NEED to drop 100 some hours for a 2k army for the privilege to play the game. If anything it gives me more motivation and breaks up painting. Some people man. As long as people are making progress as fhey go and not just sit on a grey tide for years who cares. If anything shame me for my 4k of nids j bought/printed but I haven't even primed one because I found out I kinda fucking Hate playing 10e ruin boogaloo

NEW THREAD
>>96165831
>>96165831
>>96165831
NEW THREAD

>>96158376
If you agree to a game with someone who looks like that, you reap what you sow.

>>96162588
urgh why did they feel the need to make him an ancestral god

>>96165616
>user error