>Previous thread:
>>96136319

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>TQ
What’s the most innovative/surprising/unexpectedly useful mechanic you’ve encountered in an alternative wargame?

>>96161171 (OP)
>tfw you will never join a hunting party through cobblestone streets hunting poor people with some cute decadent lady

>>96160892
I'd like those minis but that long ass tube gun is so stupid

>>96162105
Join ICE

>>96162276
I think the cute lady is an important bit.
Dr Phil isn't a cute lady.

>>96162190
Yeah, it looks like they were trying to do something with a barrel shroud and it didn't come cut.

>Whispers of the Deep still unfulfilled
Black Site Studios takes their time as always.

>>96162319
I just spent 10 minutes trying to find that ICE agent with the super fat juicy ass posing with a captured captured wetbacks, but I can't find it

Is there a system that feels like playing 2Fort?

>>96163019
Is there a system where I can put hats on my war dollies?

Is Corvus Belli the only company selling non-MDF bases with sculpted markings for facing? I find painted facing markings awful and I would definitely prefer to get bases with sculpted ones but to my surprise CB seems to be the only manufacturer of such.

>>96163096
it seems to be such a sweaty thing..

>>96163019
That Halo game with mirror terrain?

>>96163096
Facings seems dumb when you could just use square/hex/whatever bases..

>>96151746
The one I played is Russian Art of Tactics.

You set your activations from 1 to 6.

So you get say something like this
1 General
2 Commander 1 - Left Flank
3 Commander 2 - Right Flank
4 Artillery
5 Cavalry
6 Mercenaries

The default method of deciding who goes first and which commanders didn't fuck up is like this:
Both players roll 1d6, the one who rolls higher will be going first. Available orders are determined as Higher Roll minus Lower Roll
So if say player A rolled 3 and player B rolled 5 than player B can do orders on 4,5 while going first and player A after that gets to do orders he set on 1-3.

There are of course reactions and stuff, so if you don't get the orders you need your army won't be completely lying down and taking it but without being able to seize initiative chances of you winning are pretty damn low. Meaning setting up your orders and deciding how many commanders you will have is extremely important.

Rules wise big armies of average or even below average soldiers are in theory stronger in straight up combat since they can just surround the enemy and beat them into the ground, but they are very hard to control and if some part of them starts crumbling they may very well break down completely due to morale problems.

Recently got a full regiment of incarnate sentinels for conquest. Other then their left hand being all the same, it was a fun kit to pose. As if their bodies have the articulation of babies but the muscles of roided mongoloids

anyone got the latest Rogue Hammer PDF or should I head to the sharethread?

>>96163598
Wtf am I looking at

What's a good fantasy wargame to fight over diorama tables nowadays?
I want lots of 3D printed terrain, obstructions, verticality and so on.
Is Frostgrave the go-to now or do you have some other recs?

>>96164827
Carnevale is pretty good for dense 3D urban terrain. This is about the minimum viable, but it can get way thicker. The only real caveat is that it needs to have a canal running through the board and the buildings should be arranged such that short ones are next to medium ones are next to tall ones so the slower units can climb them one "step" at a time. It's playable even if your section of Venice looks a bit Kowloonish.

>>96163096
Maelstrom's Edge and I think the Star Wars games? Have indents

>>96165220
I didn't really care for Carnevale, but the boards look great.

>>96163598
The paint job is going to have to do some heavy lifting. Unpainted they kind of just look like blob monsters.
>>96164684
I had the same question

>>96161171 (OP)
>The glass she is holding is full and half full
wat

>finally buy the last oathmark book I needed
>find out about an upcoming 2nd edition
come on man

>>96165880
>find out about an upcoming 2nd edition
wait what

>>96164827
You really have so many options, you have to narrow it down more specifically what you're wanting for me to give a suggestion

>>96165880
That's what you get from playing a shit game from Joseph McCuckold

>>96166151
>play Misery Island Sinbad Happy Time
>no second edition because most gamers aren't masochistic enough to watch their expensive dudes get mauled by fucking turtles and monkeys leaving themselves stranded with basic thugs until they scavenge enough cash to leave
I win.

>>96166140
A TLDR would be give me an excuse to field a table of printable scenery stuff and iain lovecraft terrain, use it with a decent amount of minis and still enjoy the mechanics.
Regular fantasy options in the vein of D&D, Warhammer etc are a plus (or fantasy pirates with supernatural elements as another option) as are campaign rules though I can cobble those together on my own but overall I just want a fun fantasy game with lots of terrain and a decent amount of game to actually keep interest.
Basically a fantasy equivalent to Infinity, a less busted Mordheim or similar options.

>>96166180
What?

>>96166489
I guess he means Frostgrave: Ghost Archipelago and the fact that nobody plays it so the risk of a second edition is slim.

>>96166822
Yes.

Apparently the "Green Vault" from the new edition of K47 is based on the idea that a museum in Dresden is the core of a three century old conspiracy that manipulated central European countries to create the Axis for occult power reasons. Which is actually kind of cool.

https://warlord-community.warlordgames.com/konflikt-47-introducing-the-axis/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Vault

I think this new direction is good because it's more than just weird turrets on WW2 tanks.

Anyone know any companies that make good 28-32mm scale Chinese minis like Malifaux?

>>96162190
>>96162330
To be fair it is an anti-material rifle, so the length makes a bit more sense. The more common heavy assault rifle that the average trooper has is more proportionate to what you'd expect.

>>96167308
Wargames Atlantic to Boxer Chinese

>>96167303
That's nice, but it still comes off as blatant attempt to sanitize World War 2 and appease some overpaid sensitivity reader brought on board to satisfy some corporate investor's mandate. It feels very corporate and cynical.

>>96165880
Nothing says there won't be backwards compatibility so no reason to doom and gloom yet.

>>96167825

I think that's an unreasonable expectation from a Wargamer.

>>96167825
>so no reason to doom and gloom yet
LET ME ENJOY MY DOOM AND MISERY

My copy of the Doomed arrives today.
Hopefully I didn't get baited.

>>96167303
>indians in power armor
Hide your women

>>96168474
Didn't you get this out of your system in /hwg/?

>>96163119
>>96163223
Retard.
>>96165235
It's a shame SW Legion trooper bases come with no markings.

This Sandworm got announced for Heroclix, and I found it interesting how it is 1 character divided in 3 pieces tu simulate the worm lurking.
Is this a common thing in other games?

>>96167303
Their lore blurbs are surprising me. Apparently the USA has transitioned into a full Theocracy under gigachad war prophet FDR and they're planning to conquer the whole world. I like the idea of a Bolt Action variant that tosses in some Weird War shit, but the whole "changing the flags, changing the leadership" that they're doing for every faction seems like you won't just be able to throw walkers into your existing WWII army. Shame.

>>96169295
I haven't seen it much, I think Wasteman had a big resin worm that did that. But since ThunderChild Miniatures closed (the guy now is the Red Nebular 3D patreon) and Old School Miniatures took on the line, it's expensive as fuck and basically increasingly OOP

>>96167303
SHOW BOB AND VAGENE, MISS! SHOW ME YOR VAGENE MISS!!

>>96169295
I know there's some 3d prints of the same sort of thing. Also a dnd mini, pretty sure. They like doing that, like an octopus coming out of the water with tentacles on separate bases.

>>96167303
>The politicians of the Third Reich have been discarded
Pretty cringe tbdesu, agree with the other anon. It‘s an attempt at being safe edgy.
>Neu Republik
Why would that be a republic, are the demons of hell or whatever democratic? Also bad German.

>>96169295
I didn't think I've seen it with a worm. I've seen it with long krakens and tentacle beasts.

And none of them posts a picture of the actual miniatures. "Post minis" is never wrong.

>>96167303
There are many fun conspiracy theories around the end of WW2. The "Green Glove Society" was among my favourites when i read about it as a teen.

>Green Vault

Its a great museum, and i highly recommend it if you ever happen to be in Dresden. (And while you are there, you also should visit the military museum. Its amazing, if you like military history)

>I think this new direction is good because it's more than just weird turrets on WW2 tanks.

I agree 100%.

>>96169751
>Another Hudson Adams chimpout
Meanwhile, reality

>>96169830
Details aside, and just looking at the size, they fit almost perfectly next to each other.

>>96169751
>Bringing fb drama to 4chan
Ishygddt

>>96169751
Crawl back up your dad's pisshole. Stop trying to turn these threads into /v/tier shitposting.

>>96169751

You're really scraping the barrel here. Victrix knights are bigger than wga ones, while also being superior when it comes to detail and dynamism. It is also known that victrix has a bit inconsistent scaling with their models. Pic related for a size comparison between victrix and WGA.

>>96169751
Hudson Adams is such a a fucking faggot. Between his behavior and the extremely questionable casting quality, I refuse to buy from WGA at this point. It's a shame really because I had such high hopes with them

>>96169751
What's humorous is that he's trying to dig at their Napoleonic kits for being "almost 20 years old," which isn't true, but even if it was - Victrix 20 year old Napoleonic kits have sharper quality models than current WGA 2025 boxes.

WGA is the definition of SLOP. A constant steady churn of low quality shit

>>96169751
No one asked, no one cares.

>>96170167
hardly a problem in size i would say.

>>96170506
I agree, that's why it feels so slimy and disingenuous when the CEO of WGA is posting about incompatibility on Facebook, it just seems like he's slandering Victrix so you'll buy his product and not theirs

Schizos should be banned from public discourse.

>>96170506
>>96170546

He wasn't slandering victrix, he said that their models were bigger and that they've suffered from scale creep and he was responding to a topic about cross-compatibility between victrix and WGA.

Anyone here played Flames of Orion? I thought it's yet another remix of the mudcore slop but the rules look quite decent.

>>96167890
Would be nice to know what you think of it.

>>96170546
>>96170506
I usually don't mind differences in scale, but I think those knights are just different enough to be an issue. Maybe it's not so bad mixed in with a big unit but that pic just doesn't look right to me.

>play Stirring Abyss
>its underwater Lovecraftian XCOM

Lots of people make deep ones or sharks but does anyone make 28mm minis in standard diving dress? Other than Scooby Doo style ghost divers.

>>96171152
Reaperminis has a couple

>>96171020
Especially on that pic with the difference in pose it looks perfectly fine to me. But to make a proper statement I would need both sets in front of me, to see how victrix heads look on wga bodies and vice versa.

>>96170167
I think you could maybe get away with it for the heads but there's no way you could swap torsos and legs on those

>>96163598
A-are they supposed to look like that?

>>96170581
Hey I didn't do anything wrong I'm just lurking..

>>96163598
I think we need to see these painted. Or at least primed and then dry brushed to show the geometry. A lot of models look better after they've gotten edge highlights.

>>96171561
Based schizo lurker

>>96172086

>>96170167
thats also a case where the WGA barons war stuff is a little on the smaller side

>>96170642
This picture here >>96169830 clearly showed they're fairly comparable in size, with WGA actually being the tallest

>>96169302
I think the theocratic US direction fits because helpful magical Rift nonsense would definitely be seen through the lens of divine approval in the 1940s US, and it's consistent with their politics at the time.

>>96169770
It does sound cool from what I read on the wiki article.

>>96169551
"Republic" didn't necessarily mean democracy. It's as mutable a word as any other political term. But i like the angle of these shadowy conspiracy types creating the Third Reich only to produce the right conditions for their own rise to power. I'm kind of hoping after killing Hitler and blaming the Allies, they made Rommel their figurehead.

>>96171152
If you don't mind Victorian sci-fi, Deep Wars has a faction of deep sea treasure hunters.

>>96172611
Forgot pic.

>>96172611
>>96171152
Lead Adventure made several sets too
https://www.miniaturicum.de/VSF-03-Deep-Dive-Day-2
https://www.miniaturicum.de/VSF-13-Deep-Dive-Night-2