Thread 96165831

Fyreslayers Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96158300

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
Warscroll Maker: https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/ sharty won jannies lost
List Builder: https://www.newrecruit.eu/
Army Reminders: https://aosbattleorders.co.uk/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Thread Question
If it was up to you, what would you do with Fyreslayers? Squat them, soup them with other Duardin, or give them a second wave/refresh the model range?

>TQ
Place an emphasis on their faith. They need to make the imperium look like a fucking joke.

>TQ
Give them one more shot by giving them a flameseekers-esque refresh/update
If it still doesn't work out squat them, so we can bring them back again 20 years later.

>>96165767
I simply don't paint the trim. Even then it's extremely well defined on the sculpts and is very simple shapes. They have lots of flat, smooth surfaces and the trim on the robes is generally even more simple than the armor trim.They might still present their own challenge to paint like any other army but they are definitely not on the level of something like Hedonites that they're commonly paired with when people talk about painting difficulty.

Spearhead complete

>>96165831 (OP)
TQ
Squat the old basic infantry dudes. They look like shit. Keep the heart guard and the shooter guys. Remake the basic dudes to have a bit more armor. They aren't ur gold runed the fuck out, they need more armor. Less armor (and more ur gold) means you are tough as fuck. Second, artillery. They need it. Straight up steal the magma cannon from the Chorfs, give it a cool golden magamdroth head barrel, job is good. Make it more close range- it wants to get points blank, but when it hits it fucking hurts. Finally, some sort of beast unit. People on here keep asking for mini magmadroths, no fuck that, but some kind of quick magma based beasts that can run around, maybe give them a handler.

>>96165903
Congratulations

>>96165903
looks rad.

>>96165903
Nicely done, anon.

>>96165831 (OP)
>TQ
Full SCE redesign treatment.
Pteruges(?) & loincloths to give them a proper silhouette. Capes on champions and characters.
The same units that they have, all redesigned like the Flameseekers.
Magmadroth chariots, including a bigger battlecraft attached to a fully gown one, making something like the kill-rig from 40k.
Throw the pizza oven in the trash, and give them a big anvil, summoned so it sticks out of cracks in the ground on a pedestal of rock.
Mega-giga roided up ur-gold berserkers, swollen to the size of ogors due to the god juice in their bodies.
Golden magmadroth head sculpts as artillery.
Beer-maids, going around with barrels of that ale they have that I can' remember the name off, buffing their infantry up and or healing them.

>>96165903
Based and ghyranpilled anon

Fuck it, when my paycheck clears I am going to buy the prior KO Spearhead/Vanguard box.

>>96165831 (OP)
tq
>Give them new models for me to buy of course. Gotta have em

>>96166021
Hell yeah, I literally made the same decision with my previous paycheck. I just couldn't get this out of my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6MVLxyQAZI

>>96166160
People will look at that image and claim AoS doesn’t use AI generated art lmao

>>96166173
Correct, because this image is older than AI generative art.

>>96166173
that image is from their 2017 battletome.

>>96166173
is this like a humiliation fetish thing

Post FEC models. I’m seriously considering picking up the spearhead to get back into collecting. All of the models in the box are great.

>>96166084
I have been building up a Dark Eldar army in 40k, but the KO have always appealed to me and I play their counterpart in Age of Fantasy.

>>96165469
For the bronze trim on my death guard I use a base coat of Pro Acrylic “ Dark Bronze “ lightly stipple dry brushed with Balthazar gold. It creates a really nice ancient metal effect.

>>96166441
Looks like he's been deep diving in the ocean, it's good.

AoS is on death's door.

>>96166584
2 more weeks

What are some good colour combos for Skaven that arent red, orange or green?

I was thinking purple outer clothes and cream inner. Any other cool combos or pics?

>>96166599
https://files.catbox.moe/3fwitl.pdf
Here's Uniforms and Heraldry of the Skaven, which is a little booklet from Fantasy featuring different Skaven clans and their color schemes

>>96166287
ALRIGHT FINE, give me a second.

>>96166688
I have a hard copy of that

But most of the schemes in it are red, green, black and brown

FEC = Feces Eater Cult

>>96166173
>wtf this is way too complicated and detailed, must be fake!
AOS haters literally cannot conceive of the level of kino AOS enjoyers experience daily. Their brains revolt trying to make sense of such quality.

>>96166051
Lol 40keks are such ugly people

>>96166751
Finally, representation for the FROMsoft fans.

>>96165831 (OP)
>TQ
Honestly, aside from resculpting vulkite berzerkers? Not much. Maybe give them one more infantry kit with an alternate build, but beyond that I do as I've always done; accept that they're conceptually an army with a limited roster and game plan. I feel that most of what can be done to help make Fyreslayers compelling can be done with rules and lore; the Scourge of Ghyran Runeson on 'droth is a perfect example of this. I would personally lean heavily into them being mercenaries; give them good, and unusually flexible regiments of renown. Let basically any army hire them. Let KO, HoH, and CoS armies with a duardian general take up to 1000 points of them. If they're working for HoH, you cannot include any Fyreslayer priests. Also, let Magmadroths be terrifying; Godzilla breath should come standard. Also, add one to ward rolls when contesting an objective or in combat with an enemy hero; "you fuckers have ur-gold, I fucking know it."

My point is, the army has enough to be what it's trying to be, it's just on GW to not phone the battletome in for once. You don't have a lot of warscrolls, so fill the pages with dope ass shit. Fyreslayer heroes should be laden with enhancements. In addition to the usual Heroic Traits, Artefacts, and Monstrous Traits, you could have Lineages for Runefathers and Runesons; in essence, it'd almost be like an extra subfaction that only applies to your Runefathers and Runesons. Does your lodge's lineage have a reptuation for laying low the champions of their enemies? +1 to wound rolls when in combat with enemy heroes. Maybe they seek out the mightiest beasts to slay, +1 to wound rolls when in combat with enemy monsters. Maybe they have a reputation for fighting to the last, to see a job through? First time they die, roll a dice, and on a +2 they're back on their feet with that many wounds remaining, or that many wounds +3 if they're on a 'droth.

You know, just dope shit like that.

>>96166287
I really wish we would get the word of gormayne again in the warhammer articles.

>>96166287
Took me a second to get them out, and holy fuck terrorgheists are spindly. I got a few I'll just dump em.

>>96166857
Also totally forgot I had some cryptguard in stasis and have yet to finish off my Crypt horrors. I should polish these guys off before I bring my ghoulies out. I really hate batch painting normally but I like ghouls.

>>96165831 (OP)
TQ
I love the Fyreslayers, but when they were made they took to much from the Dawi Zharr (translated to Fire Dwarfs) and now that said Dawi Zharr are here, for real, in AoS, well now they have to compete with the real thing (be it in a different light), and what’s really funny to me, as someone who read the lore of the Dwarfs in AoS, Fyreslayers are good but fight for evil if paid well enough, and here it seems like the AoS Dawi Zharr are on the borderline between Evil Chaos and Order, and well they hate Chaos now. So… what does that leave for the Fyreslayers?
Ur-Gold infused tattoos, well we got daemon infused gems that work for everything, you got wingless Taurus that you call magma drakes, well we got mechanical Taurus now. I don’t want to see the Fyreslayers squatted or rolled in with KO, but I feel like the team that made them really did not look ahead to the possible release of AoS Chorfs…

Case in point, I’m a 40k Dawn of War kiddy, and I got into tabletop with 40k (duh) but did go towards Fantasy in 2011 with their Chaos Dwarf LoA, it never really took off as I was trying to build a 90’s big hats, well then fantasy died and AoS came, and well I waited, I waited for 10 whole years to join, as Chaos Dwarf lore bits kept coming up, then the Hobgrots came with new lore and well, I waited some more, and here I am now ready to pounce on the AoS Chorfs. Now what’s really funny, is that even now, with the AoS Chorfs on their way, I’m still somewhat enticed by the idea of just going with the KO, as they are so damn neat and unique, something I can not say for the Fyreslayers…

>>96165892
Very tidy
>>96166857
Your flesh recipe is fucking gross af dude. Also cool "S"
>>96165903
The green wood turned out stellar

>>96166945
I really wanna see that army book for chorfs, I know even in fantasy hashut was kind of...orderly, in comparison to the competition, but he seems much more neutral in aos. I dont really hate his implementation, making him be the one to get the shit end of ghur is both kinda funny, and does have a proper way of explaining the mutations.

>>96165831 (OP)
>>Thread Question
>If it was up to you, what would you do with Fyreslayers? Squat them, soup them with other Duardin, or give them a second wave/refresh the model range?
redo vulkites with better poses and more varied equipment (great weapons, flails)
redo auric hearthguard with better designs (less chunky and longer magmapikes, different design for helmets more akin the smith, and capes)
squat hearthguard berserkes as a unit
add a chariot
add an auric mortar
add a generic kalkyrie character on winged pterosaur-like wyvern
add bael grimnir on a bigger salamander monster more akin to the art of vulkatrix, and in a dual kit that also makes you build his first runeson and his last runedaughter
redo the battle standard bearer
make a hero so covered in runes that he looks like he's wearing heavy armor
make a hero that's been stripped of all his rune and he's now mad and with a flaming stand of a vulkatrix-headed-grimnir behind him
update gotrek by having him find his old (and improved) axe, felix (as a stormcast), and maleneth but changed so she's no longer a filthy edgy khainite (make her become an idoneth in some convoluted way, or I dunno, convert to morai heg, the important thing is she stops looking like a dark elf)

rename them vulkadron fyreslayers then soup them with kharadron overlords into one big book of dwarfs

>>96166021
>>96166084
>>96166160
The real question is why haven't any kharadron players paint fat anime tits on their botes

Is there a PDF of the Battletome available yet? If so, anyone please able to link it?

>>96165831 (OP)
>If it was up to you, what would you do with Fyreslayers? Squat them, soup them with other Duardin, or give them a second wave/refresh the model range?
They just need some (I know it's a skub word but can't think of another word for it) diversity to distinguish their kits, and perhaps expand the theme to allow for non-slayer looking guys. KO and FS can stay two different faction, but KO get to be the techy guys with the most advanced machines, and FS the traddies and barbarians. Also, ram cavalry.

>>96167079
preorders aren't physically out until monday

>>96167090
>diversity
variety.

>>96167092
Ah, I did not realize it was still on preorder. Thank you, Anon.

>>96166955
Preciate it on the ghouls boss, them and my SBGL (and I guess SOB) are my closest to "finished painting" armys.

I do hope we get more ghouls though, I do love the foot hero but I would love some more stuff.

>>96167090
I mean, Kharadron riding big armored lava rams that live on volcanos would be the shit. Could have runes hammered into them, make 'em really stubby and give the slayers those chain weapons so they have a bit of range.

>>96165831 (OP)
>If it was up to you, what would you do with Fyreslayers? Squat them, soup them with other Duardin, or give them a second wave/refresh the model range?
Change nothing. The faction is for me and other enjoyers and I won't have you(who still wouldn't buy any regardless) ruin it for us like stormcast.

>>96166599
This was a community post I thought was nice. It suits the Skryre warlock theme, but I'm sure it would look good on any rat.
I have some Eshin rats that I'll be painting dark purple/black.

>>96167065
Some sexy nose art would be a cool addition to the Kharadon aesthetic. Though I guess sexy to them would be a dwarfette lounging on a pile of coins or something.

>>96165831 (OP)
>If it was up to you, what would you do with Fyreslayers? Squat them, soup them with other Duardin, or give them a second wave/refresh the model range?
Bling Dwarfs. Any part of their body that isn't naked is covered in gaudy precious metal. These are trophies awarded in honor of service and past campaigns, and particularly brushes with death, and can be used as a reliable meter of a dwarf's seniority (since beards get easily burnt off in this line of work). Monsters with bling, golden constructs, molten gold living spell, etc.

>>96167138
so you want to see them squatted, got it

>>96167079
>KO PDF of the Battletome available yet?
We have rules but not everything else.
litter.catbox.moe/odvaqzb877f6r9yf.pdf

>>96167138
>Toph
I have this pic on my SSD but rarely have an excuse to post it. To be kinda on topic
>Fire Kingdom
I feel like they'd be Helsmiths. They're industrialized, they like war, and they seem to have beards more often.
>Air Nomads
Lumineth. Easy, the Lummys have wind-based spells and units.
>Earth Nation
Cities of Sigmar. The point of the Earth Nation is that it's the most basic one. Large, populated, etc. Cities are the most basic faction.
>Water Tribe
Hard to choose. I don't think Idoneth really reflect them as much as Daughters of Khaine do. Daughters are divided by schism like the Water Tribe, they're very religious, and have a bit of a mystical streak to them. I know it's not AoS but the original Dark Elves had pirates so there was more of a water theme initially.

>>96167163
Don't temp me anon, I'm trying to stop commissioning smut and save some money and remember this guy was in my little black book.

Also uhhh on topic, Fyreslayers I think are fine at a base level but could use just a few new units that aren't just a naked dwarf with an axe. At least give them one other thing a piece to make them unique, and maybe a cool named hero that isn't just Gotrek.

>>96167162
Thank you, Anon!

I've been doing Warhammer as a whole for about 16 years now but it's pretty much exclusively been with 40k and a tiny bit of the other settings. The last few years have, honestly, completely sucked being in the 40k community. I don't mean to start shit flinging or anything over this but as I've gotten more and more aware of things for myself, as a queer person, as well as issues I've been facing because of that it's genuinely been horrible and I'm honestly so done with it.
How is the aos community, actually? I can only make judgements based on the things I see looking in or from people I've met and whilst it seems more laid back and chiller compared to 40k I wanted to ask here and see what people who've been in the community and this part of the hobby for a while think.

>>96167242
Nobody gives a single fuck about who or what you want to fuck - unless it is kids, but you also have to not bring it up at every opportunity. Play the game, that is all.

>>96166173
I would give anything for this faggot to have to come back here and pay the piper.

I hate AoS but you trannies really handled him. Absolutely curbstomped him. Well done.

>>96167242
First, you're on 4chan, so obviously any community here will lean more /pol/tarded than usual. There are more queer-friendly 40k communities. I'm going to assume you're a smart enough person to have looked elsewhere for 40k communities and are still dissatisfied with it.

Overall I think the main difference in the AoS community compared to 40k and Fantasy counterparts is that we're generally more gameplay and style focused. AoS is known for having more rigid rules on how armies can look and play, and for having models that are generally very good looking. There also isn't that much slop about AoS, I think the community is just too small so what few people pander to us are more interested in their quality. The main issue I've had with AoS communities in my roughly 6 years with it is fearmongering. People love dooming over AoS dying or playing up faults in current editions (which are honestly minor, and I'd go as far as to say 1st and 2nd editions were crap) but such behavior seems to be common in every game.

>>96167140
That looks cool. I am leaning towards something cool like purple or powder-blue or teal.

>>96167242
Like anything it's about who you choose to surround yourself with. I've never seen any issues like that in 40k or aos when it's comes to in person stuff. Online communities will never perfectly match
our worldviews as individuals, but it's relatively simple to find some friends in person who are like minded.

>engaging with something obviously copy pasted from reddit as a shitpost
lmao

>>96167315
trying too hard

I like AoS
I like Fantasy

But I love my dark elves, Morathi most of all

>>96167424
he is right though

>>96167451
Based

>>96167451
You better love these hands if you dont put your chastity cage back on

Anyone have 3e Fyreslayers with page 24 and 25? They're missing in my copy.

No bald dwarves.


It’s weird

>>96167526
This man is based.

>>96167469
Yes goddess

>>96167098
>chud afraid of the bad word is ESL
every time, post your hand
>>96167090
yeah, Fyreslayers need decorative elements like the Flameseekers to distinguish kits. Armour, helms, crests, extra bits of clothing, etc. Flameseekers don't even have much but the core infantry models stand out so much from a little belt and the draped kilt thing

>>96167090
>and fyreslayers the traddies and barbarians
Basically this desu. I would expand them one the one hand with heavily armoured, draconic themed hearthguard (picrel). Classic dwarfs essentially but with more of the 'celtic' dragon iconography like you see in this guys' helmet >>96165960. Add some chariots and warmachines.

Then the other wing of the army I would make essentially the dwarf version of savage orcs, with a heavy focus on magmadroth-based armour and weapons (hides and fangs like with >>96165865). Conan dragon dwarfs essentially.

>>96167546
He also very clearly has hair

>>96166287
>Post FEC models
I have a somewhat scuffed version of the FEC spearhead, where 3/4 units are proxied from stuff i already had

>>96167039
Ditto, I know not all Fantasy fans will agree, but for me this just confirmed the fan theory that Hashut was indeed a fallen Ancestor god. It always made the most sense to me anyway, as Chaos gods can not exist (for long) outside of the realm of Chaos (unless it’s the End Times), and Hashut was clearly bound to the Dark Lands, a place some distance from even the Chaos Wastes. Guess that means it was Hashut who bounded the Dawi gods in chains, now that’s fucking funny, good for you Hashut!

>>96167092
This isn't what's being asked or when it comes out.

>>96167816
How can someone scan a book that's not released yet?

>>96167477
I think everyone has that PDF with a few missing pages. Thankfully, it's pretty easy to fix PDFs these days.

Ask someone to make good pictures of the missing pages. Edit them in Paint (just cut a square field of the page and then paste it in a new Paint file, one page at a time). Save them as JPG. Remove metadata from pictures just in case (there are many free websites without any registration doing that, but Paint usually saves without any relevant metadata anyway, at least in my old version; you can use programs that also do that in batches, like ExifTool).

Then go to a PDF editing site like 24pdftools, convert images to a PDF document, then merge the book PDF and pages PDF, and then rearrange pages. Done.

You can also OCR it to use the search function, remove metadata from the PDF itself, and make bookmarks (for bookmarks, their field should be like a wide line from one side of the page to another when making them; otherwise, they will inherit zoom).

>>96167477
We don't talk about the page 24 and 25

God I miss the days of official PDFs...

>>96167839
Usually books leak through some guy making pictures on his phone, and then other enthusiasts are editing them and compiling them into PDFs. Sometimes people steal or buy things from warehouses or put them on Amazon, and sometimes it's GW itself dropping a few pages here and there. influences doing that to promote their channels, etc.

What do you guys think the chorf spearhead will look like?
GW has been releasing spearheads that fill in the gaps battleforces and army boxes leave, it seems.

If the army box is
>war despot
>10 melee infantry
>1 cannon
>1 golem

then the spearhead would maybe be
>3 bull centaurs OR the 5 man ranged guys
>10 more melee infantry
>ashen elder priest
>hobgrots

I think this would be a really good box, but maybe TOO good so I have my doubts. I think including a golem or artillery piece is out of the questions since GW is going to price them very highly and it would be hard to balance the spearhead game around an elite army's war machines. Or they would just rather not bother trying to balance it when there are other options. It would therefore be dumb to include a foot daemonsmith, the best model in the range IMO, in a box with no machines.

I for one will probably get a spearhead like this because I don't care a ton for the war machines right now. I really hope they get some kind of steam tank or gun battery like Skryre has. The daemonsmith on foot and the one on the taurus currently only have the golem to heal and support since I don't imagine you want any kind of damage being allocated to the artillery piece.

I think GW has a more machines in their backpocket, maybe a special chorf or alpha hobgrot you can attach to your hobgrots. A slow weapons platform/transport like the Deldar raider would also be cool. you could have your ranged guys sit in a mobile bunker, slow but tough.

overall the army seems very elite. So at least they'll be cheap, right?

>>96167892
I predict war despot will be in the Spear and won't be a separate kit for now

>>96167708
>'celtic' dragon iconography
You're thinking of anglo-saxon iconography inherited from roman banners and Norse art. Neither of which look like picrel.

>>96167854
Seems obvious to monetise it? GW lose money on physical only releases, especially when it's paired with digital unlocks and fucking Warhammer Vault cataloging a history of pdfs that have since dried up

>>96167892
The army box is also a spearhead on its own isn't it ?
For their second spearhead I could see it being grots, guns, centaurs and either one of the priest build options. That's what I would do at least, but you're right that gw sometimes doesn't want their discount boxes to cover everything in a range.

>>96167948
I mean I don't know shit about the intricacies of fyreslayer design but I thought it was kind of based on the carnyx

>>96168064
Fyreslayers are actually Malaysian or something SEA inspired because of Kevin Chin but you're right, Dwarfs used to have straight up carnyx which became draconic trumpets later

>>96168111
>Fyreslayers are actually Malaysian or something SEA inspired because of Kevin Chin
dude was an illustrator, not a concept artist, at the time, he has had no hand in their models or books beyond a few artworks and doodles.

>>96168142
Kevin Chin is a sculptor now and was a concept artist before that?
https://youtu.be/xgkAlKYFcx8?si=JQ2M7KCbUgF1di_8

>>96168150
God I love magmadroths. Their dwarf pets are neat too.

>>96168146
>Kevin Chin is a sculptor now
no, he isn't
>and was a concept artist before that?
no, he wasn't, he literally tells you at the start of that video that he only started working as concept artist 3-4 years ago (already accounting for the age of the video) and that he was an illustrator before that.

>>96168150
that's not similar in the slightest beyond both being draconic

>>96168166
>no, he isn't
he said he was, you're just some uninformed faggot
I linked the podcast, cope

>>96168174
>I linked the podcast
Have you actually listened to it though? it's literally in the first minute and half for fuck's sake, you deaf fuck

>>96168165
I kind of feel this way about all the dwarf factions. Their overall concepts are all kind of neat but their models being dwarves does absolutely nothing for me.

When can we expect chorfs? Surprise release or is this one of those cases where we'll have to wait like half a year?

>>96168208
launch box before the end of summer, rest a month later or so

>>96168208
GW has been shitting out releases for both games at an alarming rate. But remember that HoH aren't even on the last roadmap we saw. I would imagine NH and FEC probably come some time next month and then I think DoK were also on that map too so it may be after them. 40k is quickly running out of releases to clog up the calendar with so AoS waves might pick up again by September.

>>96168208
Before the reveal people were saying october. They still have to drop fec and nighthaunt so that's not too unlikely, although I could see them moving up to september. Depends on how 40k handles all the marines ig

>>96168208
before November

>>96168208
Tomorrow.

>>96168225
Lumineth helmets vs idoneth shoulder spikes, who wins ?

>>96168293
umbraneth should spikes + helmets

>>96168305
Umbraneth should be oil slicked hair and trench coats

>>96167892
Assuming the box just doesn't get re-released as the spearhead too, just without the battletome, I think the spearhead will contain the bull centaurs, the ranged dudes, a hero and then a repeat of the army set, either the cannon or the war despot, depending on which kit they have the least faith in.

Can somebody give me a quick run down on how to play the nurgle spearhead? The model count is relatively low and the plaguebearers and leader die pretty easy.

I'm not exaclty sure what they're supposed to do since the leader is useless without nearby plaguebearers to boost but they're both squishy, and the blocking them up with the blightkings seems like a redundancy that just sacrifices board control.

>>96165892
damn, thes are some of the cleanest prettiest paint jobs i've seen in a long time....

No gimmicks that abuse lighting or look like shit when you rotate the model. I would've roped after the first ten pikemen.

>just don't paint the trim bro

20iq method while simultaneously being 200iq

>>96167892
They literally said on stream that the armybox is also the spearhead, there's no speculation needed.

>>96168418
nta but they also said all armies would get 2 spearheads this edition, I wonder if that applies to chorfs too.

>play 40k purely on aesthetics and lore vibes
>main focus is on my Necrons army
>absolutely love narrative games with my friends where I’m just the unstoppable slow moving horde
>start appreciating the amazing sculpts of AoS more and more
>want to branch out and try some of the cool mechanics in that game as well
>only faction that speaks to me is OBR
>love the vibe and their lore
>play style ends up basically being someone translating Necrons into AoS
Some might have been disappointed in this realization but for me it was a great coincidence and made me feel like my preferences are objectively K I N O.

>>96168357
Ok, so you start with 4 units on the board. Two are shitty (the hero and the plaguebearers), but your hero can take the enhancement that hands out a fucking 4+ ward which makes every single one of your units on that particular objective obnoxiously difficult to kill and the blightkings effectively unkillable as long as you hold it. Nothing in Spearhead is cracking open a 3+/4++ efficiently. So, while it might look like your hero is there to support the plaguebearers, he's actually not. His main role is to hand out that insane 4+ ward, and his secondary role is to spit snot at people to rack up some extra disease points because you only put him in combat if you have to. And 14" is a huge area, there's no real need to keep him very close to the plaguebearers at all. So, with one objective on hard lock with the blightkings sitting on a goddamn 4+ ward, you gotta handle the rest of the board. Hopefully, your opponent is an idiot and actually tries to fight the blightkings on their objective (most opponents will, but if they do that, they're stupid), leaving your fly to handle a weaker threat, while the plaguebearers help it out with some control score (no need for them to fight unless it's a soft target). So now you got two objectives fairly secure, but getting more than that is the tricky part. Here, you rely on getting lucky with the cards (speed of death in sand & bone can be your very best friend) or trying to keep it as close as possible until your second fly comes in and scores you some more points. The damage output of the spearhead is abysmal, so the main goal is to focus on taking and holding a pair of objectives, and then using the speedier flies to hopefully score some cards.

>>96168456
There's definitely some thematic overlap

>>96166945
Yeah, Fyreslayers made me quite scared in the wait for Chorfs because of all the themes they both occupy.
You can bet your hat the reason why the official Chorf color scheme has green fire is because Fyreslayers exist.

We got into WHFB at the same time it seems. While I thought the hats were stupid at first I kinda fell for them as I watched other people hobby with them and make cool stuff. Now I like them.
I play KO! If you ever tried regular Dwarfs in WHFB KO plays like a dream, with super fast ships that let you fly around charging or shooting the enemy. It's almost therapeutic compared to the static Dwarf playstyle of old.
But I just could not get into the look of KO, despite owning 1.5k points of them. I just don't like the endrin engines. Their lore is actually really cool though.

HoH is definitely going to become my main army now. Welcome to AoS!
>>96168208
Going by what is yet to release, and the other recent army box schedules, late September, early October.
And then the Bull Centaurs etc is likely December.

>>96168451
Most armies that got two spearheads have two because their old one was replaced. Putting out two spearheads for a new army with a small range and no defined subfactions seems unlikely, at least for this edition. Obviously in 5th they will get a new spearhead.

Are there any good sources for alternate heads for KO? Female helmets, unhelmeted heads, etc. The Arkanaut Company heads are a bit too samey

>>96168456
next you'll tell me the old world faction you're most interested by is tomb kings

>>96168456
OBR lore might be my favorite in all of AoS, but their playstyle just hasn't hit home for me. Death in general is just the coolest grand alliance.
Also Katakross is awesome, fuck GW for being lazy cowards and glazing Archaon, LET HIM DO SOMETHING COLL AGAIN YOU FUCKS.

>>96167892
I would expect an overlap of basic infantry and cannon, the underworld warband instead of a hero, then hobgrots just to spite people and make it a worthless thing to purchase multiple times.

robot and centaurs are money makers, so they stay sold as separate things, the gun infantry looks like crap but will be overpowered in rules so they can sell a ton of them

>>96168485
Unfortunately all third party stuff I've seen is of atrocious quality, even by the generous standards of 3rd party minis. You'll have to source some different helms from the other kharadron kits. Ehat kind of stuff are you looking for, just more ornate or a different style of helmet entirely ?

>>96168487
NTA, but TK just don't hit the Terminator vibe in the same way as Necrons and OBR do. Their regular troops are too shity, and they just don't really do the whole "march in perfect lockstep, replacing losses faster than they can be inflicted as their troops put themselves back together while horrific specialist units break harder resistance"-vibe of OBR and necrons. TK are more like a regular military force with a focus on chariots that also happen to be skeletons.

>>96168485
Officially the new kit will have like 10 unhelmeted faces.
Unofficially there must be a lot of dwarf heads on the market

>>96168515
I'd love to find some female ancestor helms, like we see in the art, and some unhelmeted heads both male and female. I don't want to replace all the standard Arkanaut heads, just have some variety to sprinkle in

>>96168485
A lot of Votann heads will work but people will and should mock you.

>>96168504
>fuck GW for being lazy cowards and glazing Archaon,
Too many Carnacs on the team unfortunately.

>>96168559
Thank you Sir. I will do the needful and purchas Sir

>>96168485
it's what the new kit is for

>>96168550
ooh good idea, I'll ask in one of the 40k threads.

>>96168559
looks the same, just chunky and low detail

>>96168536
>female ancestor helms, like we see in the art
Like this?

>>96168550
>people will and should mock you.
Why? It just makes the army cohesive instead of "everything before 2025 is male and everything thereafter is mixed"

>>96168559
>resin
>flimsy parchment that'd just burn rather than badass corrupted tablet of commandments
>lame regular skull and lightning motifs, no hebrew inspiration at all
A swing and a miss!

>>96168594
Like I said, they should mock you.

>>96168536
a quick search shows that someone did make female helmets copying that design, plus a few variations, but his store is no longer active and noone else seems to carry his files

Speaking of spearheads, it got kind of lost in the chorf debate but what do you guys think of the new spearheads ?
Crunching the numbers (in usd):
FEC clock in at 225, an 80 dollar discount, so pretty good at 35% off. On the other hand, a lot of value is in the two courtier set (60 dollars per kit btw what the fuck that's only 2 dollars less than kroxigors), and there's the warcry stuff which you may or may not be a fan of.
Nighthaunt end up at a dissapointing 191, so only a 46 dollars discount, or about 25%. Don't know much about nighthaunt so can't comment on the quality of the kits etc. Surprised they didn't recycle the pyregheists for this one desu.

>>96168593
wtf is this? female dwarfs have beards, I heard a prominent lore youtuber tear apart chaos duardin TM for this shit but it's prolific across all of age or smegmar? kek pathetic

>>96168559
shite

>>96168418
>watching the GW stream live
nah fuck that, I was asleep anyway. but thanks for letting me know the army box will be a spearhead in itself. eager to see how they balance the golem. sad to realize the "army box" is so tiny in model count that it's basically a glorfied Vanguard box at this point

>>96168512
oh yes i forgot about the underworld warband! thanks

>>96168559
the war despot has a really ugly hacker/polearm thing. I would print just the hammer arm and swap it.

>>96168616
>prominent lore youtuber

>>96168618
admiring that schnozz

>>96168602
I hate women so much man. can we share dick pics to own the foids bro? >>96168620
??? you don't have to play the game to be a fan

>>96168593
yeah, exactly. But the new Vongrim kit only has four female heads that can be put on other kits, so I was hoping somebody who knows what CAD is had stepped up and made a few more options.

>>96168629
>you don't have to play the game to be a fan
You do have painted models at least, right?

Gobbo poster was better than this.

>>96168616
>I heard a prominent lore youtuber
Who gives a shit? If I'm watching youtube I want it to be a cute girl in a maid outfit whispering in my ear, not some fucking loser arguing about fictional beards

>>96168612
The FEC one screams
>horrors refresh
and GW has fooled me before with this shit

>>96168559
I wouldn't want a complete 1:1 of the old aesthetic in AoS, and this one doesn't fit with the new lore. Chaos iconography is out, and hammers are special now.
Beards and faces are good though.

>>96168559
The body and weapons are a downgrade from gw's stuff, although I do like the fire skull thing. Shame the rest of the hammer is so lego-shaped. The main head they chose is awkward with the hole, but the two alternate options look great and is exactly what I wanted to see from gw, but alas. Overall 7/10 not bad for 3rd party stuff.
>>96168616
>female dwarfs have beards
Not in siggy they don't. And was this ever even a thing in old fantasy ?

>>96168673
>And was this ever even a thing in old fantasy ?
It was not. He's making fun of Arch for getting it wrong.

any predictions for new Tzeentch, slaanesh, and nurgle spearheads? their existing ones seem pretty good aside from maybe tzeentch.
>>96168612
>nighthaunt
all the infantry look the same to me. all i see are flying sheets, so I have nothing to add

>fec
I was kind of dissapointed that you're getting so many old sculpts but i've never seen them in person so maybe they hold up much better than i think. other than that, I dont see much unit variety. I think it would be more interesting to me if they swapped 3 of the courtiers for something else.

unfortunately their range isn't big outside the characters, their old spearhead hogged up all the new shiny kits (which is what made it awesome), and the only thing left are the big dragons that they're def not putting in a spearhead. I don't swapping 3 of the courtiers for more cryptguard or ghouls would have been a good idea.

>>96168679
>
How the fuck did he get that wrong it's basically the guy's job? Or is he one of those loretuber types that can't seperate headcanon from reality.

>>96168690
Gaunt summoner
Blue and yellow horrors and either chariot or flying tzaangors for tzeentch

>>96168695
>is he one of those loretuber types that can't seperate headcanon from reality.
Bingo. The whole video is just full of him criticizing that it isn't like the good old stuff from his childhood, and asking questions he would have gotten explained if he read the article or watched the reveal stream.
But he doesn't criticize in good faith so who cares really. It's just funny.

>>96168701
that sounds pretty cool actually. I think the disc tzaangors would be cooler

>>96168690
>I was kind of dissapointed that you're getting so many old sculpts
To be fair to gw all the new FEC sculpts (outside of characters) are already in the old spearhead, it was either this or they add some underworlds stuff like they did for seraphon. I do hope this means a courtier refresh down the line.
Dunno about tzeentch and nurgle but I figure slaanesh will be getting something based around daemons, since the current spearhead is all mortal. Daemonettes, fiends, throw in some of their chosen equivalents.

Does anyone have the new khorne points?

>>96168792
They release those on war om now, so they can't really leak early.

Just read the new Khorne books lore. Who is "The Khul"?

>>96168818
Post pics of it all and I'll tell you.

>>96168818
I think you might refering to Old Ben Khul who lives nearby

>>96168818
The Khul are a tribe, the main 1e khorne baddie was/is a member of said tribe.

>>96168612
NH box is highly usable, they cheaped out putting harrows in it though. The trend of making most of the new spearheads worse value continues from these shameless jews.

>>96168829
i dont know if you can read german though.
>>96168845
i know that. But there is a new mysterious being just called "The Khul" in the "civil war" of the goretide that is one of three guys claiming Khorgos Khul's seat as the leader of them.

>>96168690
>slaanesh spearhead?
Anything they can do to take exalted seekers out so the box sucks. What do I want, Fiends, Ex Seekers, Epitome, refreshed daemonettes.

>>96168858
harrows are such a weird kit, just two small cavalry dudes, don't really see that anywhere else. I figured it was just a quirk from the soul wars box, but apparently they weren't even in that ? Just odd. I like em though.

>>96168868
The Khul? More like 'the Queer' lmao gottem

>>96168612
Nighthaunt box is actually great, 2 of the best infantry, some harrows, buying 2 you've got basically 80% of your army set.

FeC is good in theory, but holy fuck this just feels like they're dumping stock before updating horrors. Also you can probably find their relaunch army box cheaper and then just buy a couple of the warcry ogors to get a better horror sculpt.

>>96168892
There was a singular Harrow in the soul wars box, IIRC. Always felt like a character kit that got turned into a normal unit for "reasons".

>>96168868
Huh, I don't know in that case. Is it possible they're the referring to that dude as 'the khul' in the same way you would say 'the irishman' or 'the italian' or something ?

>>96168643
Of course that loser doesnt

>>96168459
>4+ ward on an obj he is contesting

So you sit him behind your blightkings then make them unkillable? if you go second and your opponent reaches the obj first, then what? you can only use the obj 'desecration" ability on something not contested by the enemy. do I move my kings and scrivener to another open obj or do I confidently waltz onto the middle obj and trust the blightkings to force them off?

other than that your plaguebearers look for another obj and your FLY can either flank to take out their backline and complete tactic cards, and take open obj. Your general sits behind your kings and sneezes to farm disease points. The win con is taking the 3rd obj and finding a point advantage. Am i getting the general gist of it? Do i take summoner of plaguebearers or the d3 heal? I think the heal looks better personally. Thanks for the detailed reply btw, I really appreciate it.

>>96168892
There's been a theory around that the 2e launch stuff was rushed. Many of those models have both push fit versions and full kits of the same unit, Harrows were probably a push fit test intended to be in the box as a new hex wraith that never got a complete kit due to time.

>>96168901
>updating horrors
yeah right, keep dreaming.

>>96168902
there is not, that's the mounted knight of shrouds.

>>96168921
Then gorgers it will be. I did slap a really cool accessory on my courtier to help differentiate him though. Had some leftover terrain bits and made him a cool shield.

>TQ
Refresh oldest kits, introduce more fire monsters, subterranean ambushing lava worms, living flame constructs, skirmishing quick mini magmadroths, medium sized magmadroths that are basically fyreslayer themed Salamanders from the seraphon army. Give them an anvil of doom type kit, manned battlefield shrine type thing. An artillery piece that causes volcanic eruptions under enemy models. So much cool stuff you could do with fire and seismic theming. Aside from refreshing their base troops I wouldn't release anything that boils down to dwarf with axe.

>>96168924
Ah, right...I bought soul wars but I never did anything with the Night Haunt stuff. Can't remember the last time I've seen anyone field that guy though.

>>96168906
I always want these fuckers to actually post models, but they either ignore or deflect every time. I'd unironically want to know if they #1 have models and #2 what army they play. It's what really bugs me when someone is bitching about a release for a faction and then they don't own anything from said faction. It's like fucking clockwork.

>>96168964
ballista that launches molten stalagmites. Dwarf thats a stalagmite caber tosser.

>>96168990
To be fair they might not want to attach their dogshit opinions to models in case they actually posted them before or want to post them in the future. I'm sure 90% of the time it's just shitstirring tourists though.

>>96168904
sounds like it. In general the new tome is written pretty good. Not having half a dozen mistakes per page is better than the deepkin book.

>>96168845
>book was subtitled Book One of the Khul on release
>a second book was never ordered
That was an odd one.

>>96168907
Optimally, you go first and run up to the objective (your blightkings can likely take almost any punch your opponent can deliver) but if you don't get to go first a few different things can happen.
In the absolute worst case scenario, you can't reach any uncontested objective and also whiff the charge your opponent has given you to create that board state (blightkings should always deploy on the line, so they'll be 6" from the center line, which means they're 2" away from that line after their move, so worst case scenario, you're doing like a 6ish inch charge if your opponent is toeing the larger objective in the center of Dolorum). If that happens, you're gonna struggle, since the absolute worst case scenario for the spearhead is your blightkings getting locked in combat away from ANY objective and completely unable to reach any (if they get charged the first turn, they can either move back to the home objective or they get more fight phases to slug it out. They should beat pretty much anything in a 1v1). But hopefully, you land that easy charge and now you're fighting over an objective and gets to land the first punch as well, even if you don't get to set up the 4+ ward as easily. If you don't get an easy target for it, you should pretty much always be able to get it on your home objective, making even plaguebearers much tougher to shift from it. Remember that once it's desecrated, the hero doesn't have to stick around, he can waddle off towards the next objective you wanna poop all over.
Your plaguebearers should either be securing an easy objective from teleports or sneaky grabs, or adding their CS to the fly so it can actually take objectives from the weaker, more numerous units it likes to bully.
I'd say go for the heal every time, the mortal wound seems nice at first glance, but you just don't have the bodies to make it count properly, and every time you roll a 3 on healing a fly your opponent will groan in pain.

>>96168999
Go balls out, at this point I'm sure at this point my shit takes are associated with my scuffed wooden table and clock since that's where I gotta take my model pictures. Other spot that has lighting has all my Juri-Han figures.

A etb option for blissbarbs would be cool

So its over for Warcry, huh?

>>96169220
stream hosts said Chorfs would get Warcry rules but they're also retards so it wouldn't surprise me if they meant Spearhead.
New edition soon, before Chorfs or they're oddly getting the first rule adaptations in over a year despite countless releases since then normally ported over as pity WarCom or White Dwarf articles

>>96168985
he'd be good if he both he and hex weren't super overcosted atm.

>>96169182
aravises archers
dhanur disciples

>>96169274
>dhanur disciples
scale isn't even close.

>>96169285
it's chaos, and aos, scale differences of this kind don't matter in either fluff or gameplay

>>96169305
Try again.

>>96169311
it's chaos, and aos, scale differences of this kind don't matter in either fluff or gameplay

has the post appeared on your end this time around?

Hey, does anyone have a PDF of the Warcry book where the Troggoth King appears?

>>96169408
The warcom solo supplement? It's called Troggoth Slayers

>>96169311
AoS is goofy board game abstraction half the time, scale is irrelevant

>>96169408
I'm relatively sure it only appeared as a downloadble thing on warcom, something like giving people a way to play solo during covid lockdowns

>>96169560
>Tahlia Vedra is Stormcast size

>>96169560
Damn, that dude is fucking enormous. Always knew he was supposed to be a big lad bit whew

>>96169628
I think they decided to make him a named demon prince only after they were done sculpting him and realised just how much bigger than anticipated he would be.

that and for selling it to 40k too since all other slaanesh releases alongside it were for 40k too, spells and scenery aside

>>96169053
thanks for the detailed rundown. I'm gonna play against slaanesh next week and the last time I played this guy he didn't know I brought my nurgle dudes and said he would've preferred to play against them instead of my ironjawz. After seeing what they can do hopefully I can take his slaangors out fast and then not lose to his cavalry.

>>96169220
It died with the corvus cabal and the iron golems. Yjk your game is fucked when they squat the most popular team.

>>96169612
Please don't mention it in my presence. I long to forget.

>>96169726
I feel like Iron golems are gonna come back as the warcry team for the Chorfs.

>>96169753
Nah, it doesn’t make sense to have 2 chorf aligned teams with zero chorfs in them. And if the team is made up of dwarves, it won’t really have the same feel as the iron golems.

>>96169766
Isn't this guy a chorf?

>>96169776
I think he’s more like a dwarf who got lost and co-opted into the chaos cult rather than being part of the HoH culture.

>>96169753
I don't think the iron golems really have amy connection to hashut in the same way the jade obelisk have to tzeentch for example, they also don't really mesh design-wise.

>>96168612
FEC is 4/10 for me. The amount of crypt horrors in FEC spearhead reminds me of their dawnbringer box, I bough them at discount because nobody wanted them at local store (and I used them for the classic grotesques kitbashes). And it makes me paranoid, what I find suspicious that there is no terrorgheist. SBG have now the new zombie dragon, the terrorgheist kit is old... I guess FEC will have christmas battleforce, with terrorgheist, two cryptshit units, and GW will clear the shelves to introduce new vargheists for soulblights, and new crypt horrors, crypt flyers and terrorgheists next year - all separate kits, no dual kits. Even if I was into FECs, would wait for battleforce announcement.

Nighthaunts look great, 7/10, don't like the push-fit horses (do you even run them in two?) but other than that it's solid, for new player it's easily buy two, throw in some grimghast reapers and characters and you have basic army. For somebody who already has nighthaunts... they had better boxes, the Legion of Grief battleforce with lady and black coach is unbeatable and can still be found for sale. Which might be good way to 2000 pts, the battleforce, the current vanguard/spearhead and the new spearhead, and you will just need to add characters.

>>96169791
I kinda wanna see more of that for non human races desu

>>96169776
He looks short, protects his beard with gold objects, and carries two hammers almost as big as him.
I think he's just a human with dwarfism.

>>96169776
i am so glad the chorfs ended up looking nothing like this

>>96169809
>And it makes me paranoid, what I find suspicious that there is no terrorgheist
even if it doesnt get removed its too big in the box with two horrors. and the rest of the stuff.

Does anyone know where the haschut chorfs are located?

>>96169820
True, two horrors might be too much... and one would be just copying their old start collecting box. To not copy it in the battleforce, they will go full Gristlegore. Two terrorgheists, two units of crypt flyers and abhorrant ghoul king as the character.

>>96168673
nah, warhammer dwarf women have always been beardless, although admittedly dwarf women are not something there was ever much art or discussion of back in the whfb days, most of the existing art of dwarf women in warhammer comes from aos (and 40k if you count the votann, although they arent strictly speaking dwarfs, but abhuman clones)

warhammer online did have a lot of dwarf women including making them playable for all classes but slayer (and one questline even mentions a female slayer in one of hte level 10 questing zones), and while this wasnt made by GW directly, it was officially licensed and never de-canonized, refuted or disowned by GW as non canon like disney did with the star wars EU, so the games content should still be more or less applicable to the warhammer lore

>>96169843
They run the mortuary factory in Shyish

>>96169843
They've got forge-cities all over the realms, picrel is in aqshy. Looks like their main realm will be ghur though, interestingly enough.
Makes me wonder, does hashut have his own place in the realm of chaos? Like how nurgle has a plague garden and all?

>>96169862
Dwarf women owe me sex. I want to fuck a dwarf pussy where they got a forest of elaborately braided and bejeweled pubes. THERE I SAID IT, ARE YOU HAPPY ANON

>>96169862
>de-canonized, refuted or disowned by GW
Age of Reckoning is not WHF, it's a different universe with a different map and history but as far as broad design stuff it was approved and GW owns everything they've made. The Loonshrine is based on AoR concept art, like legitimate theft but GW copyright and all.

>>96169850
The Ghoul king is just part of the terrorgheist kit anon.

>>96169843
i remember hearing something about the realms of fire, metal, and beasts. we know from the map they have a ton of forge cities in the mountains of the realm of fire where they're duking it out with fyreslayers, and the presentation did mention that kharadron and chorfs fucking hate each other and KO have a big presence in chamon, so they probably have a lot going on there, and one of their big lore points i've heard is that hashut was gifted the realm of beasts as his domain and viewed it as an insult, which is why he rebelled against the other dwarven ancestor gods and turned to chaos, swearing a grudge against the rest of the pantheon for the slight, so their forces probably have a sizable presence in ghur or maybe even hate ghur and are waging war on the realm itself since their god views ghur as an insult

>>96169900
>Dispossessed Holds
>squatted the last of them this edition
Total Chorf Victory

>>96169908
>it's a different universe with a different map and history

i feel like thats not true at all, the main cities i visited when playing it were like altdorf and karaz a karak, it was all places and characters from warhammer fantasy, you even ran into thorgrim, gotrek and bugman in the dwarf capitol

>>96169961
read the backstory
where does that fit in WHF? It's like saying TWW is WHF.

>>96169961
I think anon might be confused, I think since it was part of the Storm of Chaos event which retroactively was retconned into End Times instead he's getting it mixed up.

Also admittedly I imagine the "maps are different" because of the limitations of video game.

>>96169912
I know, but it still counts as an character. It can nicely pump up the numbers. See the cauldron... see the hag. See the slaughter queen. If we wanted to get extra greedy, we could also count avatar of Khaine. Players try to get the most bang for their bucks from a kit. Why shouldn't poor GW?

>>96169988
I miss kits that had all those old options, admitedly I do not miss every faction having some kind of parade float.

(ONE EXCEPTION BEING MADE FOR THE BEST PARADE FLOAT EVER, GLUTOS)

>>96169900
He has a timeshare on the Forge of Souls with Vashtorr

>>96169961
There is no Dwarf city. The game was so shockingly disappointing that they never added the promised cities for elves, dark elves, dwarfs and greenskins.

>>96169988
FYI they're removing those warscrolls with the battletome, one kit == one warscroll now

>>96169987
>it was part of the Storm of Chaos event
no, it wasn't, it was a completely unique storyline completely unrelated to anything else and self contained in those game alone, never referenced at any point elsewhere, it's an obligatory non-canonical setup to force the evil factions together

>>96170012
>There is no Dwarf city

.....did you never make it to karaz a karak? there was a huge dwarf capitol city

>>96169900
>does hashut have his own place in the realm of chaos?
all gods do, but he's not a big god, so he doesn't get to claim the prime real estates where the big 4 play.

>>96168456
Welcome to the bone taxmen anon.
Harvest the tithe

>>96168165
Magmadroths are legitimately the best dragon sculpts they have ever done

>>96170016
GW is the worst, multikits like mortarchs, coven throne, cauldron, terrorgheist... they were awesome. Why take the options away from players?

>>96170023
I mean kinda? (I'm taking the garbo wiki's writings as fact so feel free to say that's wrong) but wasn't it also kinda just end of the world all the bad guys work together thing? I figured it was just another end of the world scenario alternative.

>>96170054
he's talking about the extra foot hero options based on the plague priest now being legends.
If they did that across the board then Fyreslayers would be down three heroes... Well, I guess they don't need more heroes tbhon shit

>>96170016
That's gonna be a mess for the mortarchs considering one is just in a completely different faction.

Once all of the fyres have been slain, what will the fyreslayers do?

>>96170110
fyre bellies cant be slain

>>96169776
No, he's an Iron Golem that happened to be of dwarf species

>>96169776
He's a chaos dwarf like Obama is an african-american.

>>96170001
>coven throne
>war altar
>cauldron of blood
Gw really loved their parade floats in 8th didn't they ?
>>96170070
Nta but you mean gw is moving away from dual build big mounted kits where the other rider can be built on foot? Another example being the carnosaur/troglodon where you can get an extra skink oracle or saurus scarvet out of it depending on which you build ? Am I understanding things correctly ?
>>96170110
Drink themselves to death in all likelihood

>>96170152
Yes, like the DoK Blood Cauldron allowing you to build a Hag on foot if you go with a certain build.
Obviously the Skink Oracle is independent of the kit so they couldn't remove the capacity to use it like that but the Ghoul King, Hag, Plague Priest are/were dependent on the behemoth being built without it which I presume GW is moving away from now (though afaik only the Plague Priest is gone)

Fuck them squigs. Can't believe mowing down a pack of these fuckers almost killed an entire squad of 30 trillion year old studied the blade masters with their suicide ability

>>96170188
i.e. the grey seer warscroll is for the independent model so it's not like the option to use the spare grey seer if you build a plague furnace is gone. Meanwhile the plague priest didn't have a warscroll separate from the leftover after they squatted the resin priest so they removed it.
GW may just hate Pestilens though.

>>96169900
So, Archaeon is not having any of their shit on the eightpoints?

>>96170024
NTA, not in the live game. Only in private servers.

>>96170215
Chorfs are mercenary and working alongside OBR to conquer the Eightpoints, because the Chorfs want something buried beneath his citadel

>>96170220
the private servers have existed for longer than the game itself, and also have GWs blessing, so as far as im concerned those are the main game, primarily the RoR one

>>96170238
Source on this? First I'm hearing of it.

I've changed my mind. I want the goofy bull robots.
I'll just put my classic chorfs on squares and have different chorfs for different systems. Overall chorf enjoyment increases.
I guess my Shar'tor belongs with the AoS side, though he doesn't seem to perfectly fit in with either direction.

>>96170242
A bull told me

>>96170261
Sounds like a load of... falsehood to me

Any lumineth enjoyers able to give me some purchasing advice?

I bought a spearhead+the lumineth half of that tzeentch box and a few other doodads. I'm sitting on 20 Sentinels, 10 wardens, 10 bladelords, a Cow, 5 stone guard, Mounted hero, Enlightener, 5 (Ellyrian Reavers) Windchargers, and a wind mage, cathallar and a High elf mage I'll probably use as a Caligrave. What should my next purchase be? I'm thinking another box of wardens and bladelords so I might just buy another spearhead and sell the archers and cathallar. But someone said maybe twins and riverblades should be my next pickup.

>>96170286
Eltharion.

>>96169408
files dot fm/u/29dqr5qb5r
thankfully I saved it

>>96170296
Sorry forgot to mention I do have him and 5 dawnriders

>>96170286
>>96170322
I’d say 5 more dawnriders to have a reinforced unit and the Twins. Maybe 10 more wardens. I got shit slapped by a list that was Enlightener, Twins, 20 sentinels, 10 Dawnriders, a 20 warden brick, 10 more wardens, and 10 Bladelords. Bladelords are excellent but who knows if they get slapped with nerfs whenever the tome comes.

>>96170322
looks fine, most list are running warsages, riverblades, and 20 bladelords atm.

>>96170309
Thanks bro.

>>96170322
Your eltharion looks pretty cool nigga

>>96170198
They just wanted to justify making the underworld band a generic unit, if we're being honest.

>>96169809
>what I find suspicious that there is no terrorgheist
Modern day games workshope absolutly fucking wouldn't put a kit that fucking big inot a discount box. Even much smaller Magmadroth is off limits.
I don't knwo how Carno survived that long in lizard boxes

Yall think this guy is also a chorf as well?

>>96170419
no he's part of the canceled kragnos beasts of chaos redesign army

>>96170419
He's one of the Bel'akors boys I think, probably some roided up centigor

>>96170135
So he's a Chaos worshipping dwarf?
A chaos dwarf, if you will?

>>96170414
why would they put a fucking terrorgeist in a box marketed for a skirmish side game.

>>96170286
You need Teclis and the dawnriders.

>>96170434
Even Kragnos himself has been canceled. The only relevant character in 3rd edition has been Morathi

>>96170193
I like squigs :) I wish Mangler squigs didn't suck :(

>>96170412
The Plaguepack is a unit, not hero-unit split. We should have Plaguemonks to enable taking Plaguepacks tbhon

>>96170434
Wait Kragnos was from Chaos. I thought he was part of the destruction.

>>96170434
take your pills

>>96170534
I wonder if they'll make Zarbag'z gitz legal, fucking 18 health 1-2 cast wizard with shitty ranged attacks for 180 is stupid good

>>96170549
Hrothgorn isn't and he has a Spearhead rebrand.
The hosts of the stream acted like they already have warscrolls so I doubt it

>>96170549
that's the same as gobapalooza.

>>96170564
*warscrolls already

>>96170549
I'd love a generic Mollog, that's like a new wave for the microfaction

>>96170549
gloomspite gitz isnt allowed to actually have good wizards or spell lores anymore. despite being the destruction caster faction, there is some edict from on high that gloomspites spellcasting must always suck forevermore (and so must everything else in their army apparently)

>>96170419
>>96170434
He's the centurion (centaur+ centurion = Centaurion) of Belakor's Legion.
He wears the same silver armor as Eternus

>>96170663
>Eternus

who?

>>96165831 (OP)
Soon

>>96170689
abraxia's crush

>>96170478
I really want Teclis. I have a few hangups being hes good but small caster factions find him insanely oppressive and hes 630 fucking points. I have a good STL for an alternate sculpt to his embarrassing pajamas and horrible eyes. The problem is I need to either buy celennar or find a good sphinx sculpt to print to go with it.

>>96170598
:(

But why anon? I just found out I had enough Gitz stuff to make an army :(

>>96170732
Nta but build it anyways. Gitz are a blast to paint

>>96170753
They all work as proxies and they're perfect for Warcry where you really don't want the crappy rank and flank shoota sculpts thatre 20 years old

>>96170250
>goofy bull robots
Animated art deco statues* coming alive in the hallway next the Deamonsmith's lair when some sucker tries to break in to steal his gold.
Would be cool to see your chorfs, even if they end up on squares.
Glory to Hashut!

>teclis
Man is there a bigger difference in quality between art and model? The worst part is that celennar actually looks fucking great too.

>>96170753
I think I got a Skagrot that's a bit fucked up from an ebay rescue floating around my bits box somewhere, I'll see if I can dredge him out... I got no clue on how to build gitz but I got bits and bobs over the years from trades and weird ebay rescues.

Here's what what I got in army format, feel free to tell me how fucked I am:

General's Regiment
Skragrott the Loonking (230)
• General
Rockgut Troggoths (380)
• Reinforced
Zarbag's Gitz (130)
• 1x Champion
Dankhold Troggoth (160)

Regiment 1
Loonboss on Mangler Squigs (190)
• Fight Another Day
Mangler Squigs (160)
Mangler Squigs (160)
Mangler Squigs (160)

Regiment 2
Droggz da Sunchompa (180)
Snarlboss (130)
• Backstabber's Blade
Wolfgit Retinue (70)

>>96170766
They're unpainted and the vast majority are not even built yet because resin. Honestly I'm afraid to paint them, I need to work on my skills on plastics first.

>>96170732
Do it anon. I played against gitz last night and they're one of the most fun factions to play against and going off his reaction, also fun to play

>>96170797
The lumineth community funded model is like your picture and is 1000% better.

>>96170805
If you already have those models you might as well run them. I will say that manglers are 160 points for a reason. Get ready for them to do very little. Your rockguts will likely do more for you then the manglers ever will

>>96170732
the models are too good. if they had good rules too everyone would just play gitz, the whole game would be gitz vs gitz lol

on a serious note, they arent unplayable, but it is very clear someone on the writing team responsible for gitz fucking hates them. they do have a few very good units like boingrot bounders and squig herd, and the trolls are alright, but like, all of their new wolves are bad, mangler squigs are bad, spiders are bad, the spellcasters are a joke and their lores are garbage and it seems worse in this edition than its ever been.

it says a lot about the army that its best units are the ironjawz hurtlin hogs regiment of renown and kragnos

collect the army, its an amazing range, just understand going in that you are in for an uphill battle fighting against the rules, and gitz have kind of always been that way, but it is especially noticeable this edition

>>96170835
honestly you could put the current mangler warscroll at 100pts and im still not sure it would be good

>>96170835
Sick blending

>>96170884
Thanks anon, it's all drybrushing over a spray paint blend.

>>96170835
Honestly fair, I found the remnants of Skag but holy shit he's gonna need a purple stuff bath. Also as the other anon said lovely squigs. (I will say, my mangler boss is technically the 40k mecha ork but we'll just say he's got Kharadron tech and is the big squig wrangler)

>>96170823
I hope, I've got all these armys kinda floatin' around that I flip between working on. Wish I could drag more friends over to play games but convincing them is nigh impossible I swear.

>>96170805
well the best units in the book are bounderz, herd, and fanatics, and you have zero of em.

>>96170840
GSG is a victim of their attempt to ToWify the game with the stretched to hit/to wound/rend values based on race. Turns out being a goblin thus getting 4+/4+/0 makes you suck.

>>96170944
right but arent mangler squigs like 80 points in ToW? like ToW was actually running into problems because people were able to field soooooo many goblins since they are actually appropriately costed in that game, that they just couldnt kill them

>>96170807
Always loved the Azgorh shoulderpads. They were too expensive for me back in the day.
>Honestly I'm afraid to paint them, I need to work on my skills on plastics first.
I would paint these first to gain skill and confidence, because there's so many open surfaces.
Grab one of those tiny dirt cheap makeup sponges and go to town with the main metallic colors, then paint over them for the rest of the colors later.
The black will look nice in the recesses.

>>96170962
Goblins form a meatwall and get kills through releasing fanatics. They don't kill anything in TOW themselves. It's almost impossible to wipe out a large cheap unit but in TOW you don't need to kill things to a man you can simply make them rout/flee. Goblins have bad leadership so if you beat them handily in combat there's a decent chance the massive mob will just run away.

>>96170935
That's fine, I'm also bad at the game so even if it was good it wouldn't change much.

>>96170913
Was going to say I don't know how big the 40k guy was but they're pretty close honestly

>>96165831 (OP)
>If it was up to you, what would you do with Fyreslayers?
Homosexual here. I'd took off their loincloths and add a bit of olive oil here and there.

>>96171021
Same base size and everything! I just slapped him on a bit of cork to make him a bit higher. I figure a power klaw isn't too far out of the realm of possibility in AOS.

>>96170980
>spend 3-4 hours playing tow
>nobody kills anything, everything just flees
Genuinely not shitposting but that doesn't sound very cool to me

>>96171021
wtf, I thought the manglers were way bigger

>>96171036
They're pretty big, it's moreso the ork being huge

>>96171023
Why do I find this faggotry so much more respectable than the fruity stereotype gay people?

>>96171036
They're about the size of a troggboss, not like Mega-gargant big but they take up a decent amount of space.

>>96171051
You just prefer oil daddies instead of twinks, everyone has a type

>>96171032
>create strawman of game in head
>don't like strawman
mental illness

>>96171036
Nah, look at their size next to the riders who are regular grots

>>96171108
I don't play tow, I don't know what it's like, I'm just going off the context given in that post

>>96168868

can you post the points

>>96171126
I told you how goblins work and how they kill and somehow out of that you took that nothing kills anything in tow. Your reading comp is really bad.

>>96168612
I think using warcry warbands in the spearheads is a cool idea. The models are pretty good but less so when you start seeing more than one set on the table

>>96170980
>>96171155
>They don't kill anything in TOW themselves

>>96171176
Yes they use fanatics to get kills. What you did is like if a tow player looked at Gitmob, saw how shitty they were. And then used them as a baseline to determine how lethal the average AoS unit is and how the flow of the game is dictated.

>>96170967
It's more so that plastic you can always just strip but resin seems pretty final, and some of these are official OOP FW as well so I want to paint them to the best of my ability.

>>96171202
forgeworld resin survives superclean just fine. i stripped an old forgeworld hive tyrant a month or two ago with no problems.

that said, UV print resin gets absolutely eaten alive

>>96171208
My poor 3d printed trugg... rip...

>>96171032
Yeah, good thing AoS completely removed bravery... and weapon options, and weapon ranges. Now if only they'd get rid of dice

>>96171208
Good to know, though I've never found that here. I'll keep it in mind.

>>96171032
>nobody kills anything, everything just flees
well, you kill enough for them to flee and then you give chase and trample them into the ground.

Explicit Order of the Fly models this edition, c'mon I believe in the 1e nostalgia

>>96171245
sounds terrible, why not give everyone respawning units like you sap them down from space for a command point and can get back in the action

>>96171247
that's just blightkings, retard

>>96171262
Blightkings aren't knightly enough to convey the idea EXPLICITLY, retard. ESL

>>96171257
>stermcerst chaerg!

>>96171247
needs more random ass lines scribbeld all over it.

>>96171278
How about stopping half way through and putting it on a battletome cover?

>>96171221
in the US most autoparts stores are where i've seen it, its like $10 a gallon and you can reuse it multiple times even if it looks dirty, it doesnt affect the strip. its about as mild as like a strong dish detergent or mild bathroom cleaner. i would recommend gloves but you dont need a mask or anything and its not gonna burn you if it gets on your skin or anything like that, though it will sting if it gets in a cut.

occasionally it will leave a white residue on the model, if it does just get a dry toothbrush or paint brush and dust it off. water will make the pwder adhere again and it wont come off, but a dry dusting will get it off the model, it doesnt effect the model itself, just some kind of powder residue.

Wish I could decide on a scheme for my slayers. I want to get stuck in but just can't decide on hair colors.

>>96171289
How about stopping halfway through and putting it where it belongs

>>96171289
they already did stop 20% through it.

>>96171304
I found mine at Walmart for like 7 bucks for a jug.

>>96171304
>its not gonna burn you if it gets on your skin or anything like that, though it will sting if it gets in a cut.
The last time I used this stuff with no gloves it ripped all the oils out of my skin and my hands were flaking and cracking apart for like a week. That said it is truly the best stripper. I've never had the powder thing happen though, but I'm a leaf so our superclean may be a different composition than yours

>>96171305
I think blonde would be a cool switchup from the orange. I've never seen anyone do a scheme where the beards were a different colour than the crests, so that could be a fun concept to explore

>>96171330
This happened to me with dettol (UK recommended alternative for stripping). I legitimately thought I'd just have +50 years on my hands because it was prunish for about two weeks before all flaked off
I didn't think I'd be in it too long and I was using tongs and a brush so

>>96168612
Aw man, that FEC spearhead is such a downgrade from the current one. When I posted >>96166287 I was talking about the one with the arch regent, varghiest, guard, and knights. Every model in that box made me genuinely excited about collecting FEC. The ones in the new spearhead are just sad.

>>96171450
half of it is brand new

>>96171271
>Blightkings aren't knightly enough
Yes, they are, they've got the armours, the shields, the swords, the helmets, are one dyslexic away from being called blightknights and were the unit the characters were referencing in the first place.
Don't project your retardation and shut up next time.

>>96171450
What stuff that wasn't already in the 1t box would you put in the 2nd to not make yourself feel like this?

>>96171468
The warden is cool but the warcry band and the old crypt guys just don’t measure up to the bat knights and varghiest

>>96171139
the army books no longer have the points, have you been living under a rock? its all in the app.

>>96171489

niggers on podcasts and shit been talking about the new points so i figured they were leaked somewhere

>>96171477
The current box has some of my favourite models in the range, so maybe it’s just personal. The Gorewarden is cool at least.

>>96171472
they're chaos knights not fallen knights, stop being autistic

>>96171489
Which is a good thing, because GW would retcon the points anyway, so the page was less than worthless, activly misleading people who wanted to play

>>96171529
time capsule
play day 1
play without going online and jumping through hoops
there's no reason not to beyond GW penny pinching and hurting customers

>>96171519
>they're chaos knights not fallen knights
Same shit, again, stop projecting your retardation and shut up.

>>96171305
Your pic related there is still my favorite one bar none.
I almost started them in 2020, so I have a huge paint list I was planning to use with a similar scheme. Was gonna use black and glossy black obsidian blades to have it contrast from the bright and muted slayers.
I have no idea how I'm gonna do my Chorfs right now either.

>>96171622
>blonde chorfs
At last I truly see

chaos warriors, knights, chosen, spawn, and princes should just be in every chaos book besides skaven.

>>96171630
I was seriously contemplating this for a short moment, yes.
Might go with red beards.

>>96171593
Brets Vs Chaos Warriors, basically. You're a silly one but I love you man, hope you can eventually function with your autism

warpriests and devoted when

>>96171652
Do we know when these guys and other reveals are coming out?

>>96171758
See >>96168467

>>96171758
No. World Championship in Nov will reveal the next batch so they'll come out before then given how packed the year's end is

>>96171652
always keep the helmet a single color
give the beard a different color compared to the rest of the model

red hot blade

>>96171723
Light skin mother fucker

>>96171799
this with the gem as default green would be fire yo sheit

>>96171723
I hope if they do a devoted of sigmar expansion for CoS they take inspiration from the 1e excelsior warpriest. They probably won't since they've moved on from that greco-roman feel but man the model was so cool. Loved the guy's axe design, felt very semi-mythical bronze age.

>>96171699
see >>96171593

>>96171799
good job making it worse.

>>96171799
>give the beard a different color compared to the rest of the model
Struggling with this for my FW chorfs. Considered black armor but it just doesn't work with black beards. I can see why red armor is common.

>>96171799
Not my recolor, I just snipping tool'd it from a TGA post.
I agree that the decoration on the front is a bit much, but having it and the skin color be brighter draws attention to the face as a focal point.
Agree that colored blades might be cool.

>>96171821
no u

>>96171799
Looks like shit

>>96171799
black armor and red accents is definitely the way i'll be going

>>96171857
This looks pretty good

>>96171826
>>96171857
The middle one here is still my favorite, posted a few days ago on here.
The deamonsmith was one of the weaker models in my opinion, but that recolor is actually fantastic.

>>96171882
Most of the initial recolors were the red gold on the right and I already thought they looked way better, but after seeing the black-red with gold accents in the middle I'm convinced that's the best scheme for them

>>96171818
chaos warriors aren't wearing knightly armour evocative of chivalric knights. Hurr durr aren't they all just metal helmets?

>>96171826
Did we have any offical statement about slittaz and slittaboss joining HoH or vandalz joining KB?

>>96171937
No

>>96171857
the beard must be in a different color

>>96171906
Black armor is definitely a win. Think the gradients on the gems like that anons deamonsmith is also a win, because the red standard ones are so boring.
But the most striking thing about lining them up like this is that you see how muted and washed-out the official scheme really is.
I think having that bold black and strong gold would actually make the green fire they have going on look great. Especially with purple cloth to contrast it.
The official scheme just fucks it up. Pic sort of related.

>>96171921
>chaos warriors aren't wearing knightly armour evocative of chivalric knights
yes, they are
cry some more

>>96171593
order of the fly are actually described as knights, wearing tabards, having ornate decorated helmets, etc. they have men at arms with toad dragon hauberks
they're not just Blightkings

>>96171961
no

>>96171882
I will strangle you one by one if it's what's needed to make you paint the hat in one color

>>96171987
I still won't do it. Looks weird and unfinished with the obvious decorative element being the same material/color as the rest.
If the hat just had the gem there I would, obviously. But I don't dislike it enough to hobby it away with a knife, etc.

>>96172006
>I still won't do it.
DO EET

>ynr the stormcast upgrade sprues gw brought out in first edition
Saw these randomly pop up on an old webstore and man, I'm curious how many of these got sold. Would genuinely be surprised if they reached beyond triple digits. I see a decent amount of stormcast irl but it's always one of the two default schemes or someone own paint scheme, never one of the other 'named' colour schemes.

>>96171723
I really think they should make Order of Azyr into an army and leave all the techno shit/racial mix in CoS

>>96172021
How about if the majority of the hat is one shade(of black, or a color), and the plate is a shade darker(of he same tone of black/color)?

>>96172031
i'm the only one who miss fatcasts?

>>96172043
for the most part i prefer the newer slimcast, though sacrosanct had some good minis

>>96172043
You and the people who bought Soul Wars.
For me it was a good riddance.

>>96172043
You're not the only person with shit taste in the world, no.

Anon, I...

>>96172069
. . . Alright, I will concede one thing to fatcast. I liked their faces better. Though the new one's halo design is still better than the old.

>>96172043
You and me against the world.

>>96172043
There's some nostalgia here and there but the overwhelming majority of people seem to think of thunderstrike as a straight upgrade.
Fatcast had some neat stuff though, always like their art deco lightning wings. The knight venator in particular was really cool.
Personally I always thought sacrosanct looked the worst, except for the guys with the based magic grenade launchers. Something about the tabards always just looked off to me, aswell as the weird hammer shape.

>>96172031
A fun relic of when GW was trying to force Space Marine levels of popularity on the faction.
>>96172043
You and every contrarian out there. Sure there’s design elements I preferred on the
Fatcast, but by and large Thunderstrike objectively mogs them.

>>96172069
I miss their cute little backpacks.

>>96171987
Your edits look like shit.
Maybe strangle some better taste into yourself

>>96172093
Yeah looking back it's pretty funny how blatant gw was with the sigmarines thing. Like yeah passively you know that's what they're going for with the whole faction but they used to be absurdly obvious about the whole thing. The way they were organized in different stormhosts of different 'strikings', their whole hierarchy, even some of the specialist models being a pretty 1 to 1 translation, for example lord relictors and chaplains. I'm sure someone who actually knows their shit about space marines could find many more examples. But yeah, the different stormhosts being like chapters in popularity never really took off (fortunately for the rest of us...)

>>96172069
>>96172092
the other thing about the fatcast vs slimcast is that people are trying to go liberator to liberator, but almost no one collects stormcast for the liberators, its the elite units that really matter, and in that respect its absolutely zero contest, the new slimcast, weather its dragons or the new ruination guys, just blow pretty much all other stormcast out of the water

Are Wight-only armies viable in Soulblight? Sentient skeletons are my favorite flavor of undead. How "elite" would just Wights be considered?

>>96172126
Go choke on your mindless contrarianism, you short shit.

>>96172164
I can't believe how much better these are than the fatcasts, seeing them so recently now to compare them. These guys have much better faces than the new liberators too.
Given how much time I've spent professing my hate of SCE over the years it feels almost wrong to say this, but I actually like these...
>>96172181
If you run a ton of Barrow Knights, with wight kings/lords with the regular SGBL battle traits I argue they're even competitive.
The Barrow Knights is one of the best units in their whole book, and they need a wight hero to gain their 5+ ward which is what makes them so tanky.
Their AoR is bad, they really need the healing in the regular battle traits.
I don't think they're awful, but they're definitely suddenly a lot better when you start to compliment them with other units.

>>96169900
they called him a fallen ancestor god most recently, right? on the reveal stream or something (so grain of salt) but in that case he wouldn't necessarily have a spot in the realm of chaos. probably has some sort of extradimensional pocket or demi-realm tho.

>>96172205
I have literally complimented some other anons edit schemes, in this very thread.
You are the faggot threatening to strangle people while posting those retarded single color helmet edits (hey fucking retard, the center piece is clearly designed to be the trim color).
Maybe fucking kill yourself? Make your mother happy for once (she wants the basement for storage space)

>>96172293
>the center piece is clearly designed to be the trim color
it's not designed to be anything, you can pain it in any way
and painting it like trim makes the model objectively worse

>M-maybe fg k-kill my...yourself?! moom!
repeat that without crying, faggot

>>96172181
There's an army of renown that lets you do exactly this but iirc it's garbage and you're better off just running all skellies in a normal sbgl list. Probably want at least a necromancer for magic though. Barrow knights are great, normal skellies and barrow guard are pretty good, you can certainly make it work.

>Malerion versus vampire coast
It’d sell gangbusters to have two, actually new ranges in the next edition. Although vampire coast could just be a grand alliance army that borrows and gives a little bit here and there to other factions, kinda like imperial agents but not shit.

>>96172358
>Malerion versus vampire coast
not happening
you'll get casts vs zombies

>>96172181
Pretty viable, normal skellies aren't really elite, but if you go barrow knight heavy (their best unit anyway) it could have a pretty low model count.
>>96172283
Yeah I'm not fully clear on whether or not Hashut is actually still a chaos god or just a normal "evil" god (a la khaine or stromfels in whfb). I'm assuming yes since they're still part of the chaos faction, but their relationship seems to be prettt weird. I hope that means a chaos realm, would be interesting to hear what that entails.

>>96172358
After HoH why would you want them to port more fantasy factions over? Do you want them to make vampire coast shit with their art deco reimagining too?

What would be a good method to recreate the teal glow here? By looking at it it looks like it would be about Incubi Darkness for the darkest part of the glow in the picture and Nihilak Oxide for the brighter part. But I'm dogshit with colors. Not color blind, just retarded.

I like Gloomspite masks and helmets, can I somehow greenstuff them on SoC/StD bodies or the proportions would be too fucked up?

If yes which models would you recommend for a melancholic knight feel?

>>96172440
For sure. They work fine on man sized stuff

>>96172283
According to the new WD he's a dwarven ancestor god, and is trying to become a proper chaos god.
>"There's another shadow burning with desire to have a claim on such elemental godhood, too: Hashut, the deity of the duardin Helsmiths. Still, as an ascended god, Hashut is in with even less of a chance of being considered a true Chaos God than the Horned Rat."
"Ascended god" is the term they use for all the elf, dwarf, and ex-human (including Nagash) gods. Hashut apparently got assigned Ghur, like Grugni got Chamon, and Grimnir got Aqshy. But he was not in Sigmar's pantheon.
"Elemental god" is what they call the 5 chaos gods, and Gorkamorka. They are of the warp, and did not use to be mortals.

The "fallen god" moniker is something I've called him on here, and elsewhere. So you might have read one of my posts.

>>96172181
skeleton aor sucks, like it's both not fun and below average.

I would say on a level of viability, going all skeletons is like 5/10? Their skills don't really make much sense between all of them. The wight king on steed gives a -1 save debuff to the target but the barrow knights and barrow guards do mortal damage. He also picks a point in enemy territory to get +1 hit while you're wholly within an objective. Which is hilarious because they aren't very mobile (even the barrow knights are not especially fast cav), the +1 hit doesn't actually bump their damage up much (because again, they do mortals), and if they blob up they may not necessarily get the benefit being on the point because they're not wholly within. The wight king on foot gives out exploding hits, which doesn't stack with the mortals they get, so he's also pretty pointless aside from being a cheap hero to enable the barrow guard ward.

So yeah, you're left with spamming barrow knights which is less about doing decent damage and more about just pinning people. Which is incredibly boring for both players.

SBGL is unfortunately more slanted toward running vamps with some token barrow knight units and maybe a couple throw away skeletons at minimum strength to screen or do objectives.

If you're real keen on running skeleton heavy, maybe throw mannfred, one of the two radukars and necromancer in there, and pray you can roll a 3+ after spending a command point to fight twice.

All the TOW faggots are crying about how they dont have the new Chorfs and how GW "forces them" to play AoS or buy them to convert them to TOW. Hahahaha

>AoS players with Cathay: woooowww, cool army, i will use it like CoS alter
>TOW players with Helsmiths of Hashut: noooooo!!! Fuck you Games Workshop!! You ruined everything!!! I dont want to buy them!! I dont like the new look!! Why are you forcing us?!?!?! We want the old ones!! I will have to buy them to convert them!!

>>96172035
Order of Azyr would make way more sense as a couple characters and a unit or two in the CoS tome than as a full separate army.

I would love to see them tho. Warpriest, generic Witch Hunter, and some kind of elite bodyguard/purgation unit for them. I'd fuck with that.

>>96173119
thats fine, they dont have to buy it. im still like 98% sure that the old forge world line is going to get repackaged for ToW so they can play with that, and for dudes who want that really really old aesthetic of the early 90s metals, there is an artist out there who did the whole range really well and then gave it away for free, so they can just print an army that way, or take any one of the dozens of print designed chorf ranges

>>96173119
>NOOOO WHY *thing i like* HAS CHANGED! I DON’T WANNA DADDY GW!!! Waaaaah

Sounds like your typical groggy behavior

>>96173209
this but unironically

>>96169776
He’s a chaos worshipping duardin, but not one that worships Hashut. The iron golems are their own little multi-species empire. You wouldn’t call a wanderer from settler’s gain a Lumineth just because they’re an aelf that also worships Teclis

Kind of interested in the regiments of renown chorfs will provide for chaos. I have to ASSUME that the artty will be in one package, I wonder how im gonna make it look fitting for my tzeentch army...

>>96166173
youre fucking retarded

>>96166173
This is obviously bait. No one can have the brain so decomposed and be alive.

>>96172043
I think both are neat for different reasons, they feel fairly different from one another

Does anyone have the PDF to Broken Realms: Morathi or Galene of Ulgu, bros?

Ive been looking all over...

2nd game of spearhead today, spent 30 minutes debating how terrain works specifically the cover rule.
His interpretation was that a unit wholly within 3" of the large wall terrain features would get a cover save for holding the terrain feature. I said there's no way thats the way its intended, it would mean if a unit is standing in front of the wall they would get a cover safe from shooting, being behind it would be obscuring.

>>96172489
Radukar the beast is so fucking fun to use

>>96173875
I don't have Galene, but please enjoy the peak of AoS narrative. Here's hoping this edition's campaign is better than Dawnbringers.
https://gofile.io/d/x7iMRw

>>96173968
Bro you are such a chad ily

Take this morathi pic as a reward

>>96173962
If you can draw a straight line from the base of a model in your unit to the base of a model in his unit, it is not behind cover. If you cannot draw the line without hitting the terrain feature, it is behind cover.

Certain abilities may trigger based on being within combat range (3”) of a terrain feature, but benefitting from cover is not one of those.

>>96174138
I could kind of see where he was coming from, he was saying that it represented them taking cover behind the wall. "why do they have the cover keyword if you can't use it as cover"
I tried to explain the "wholly on or behind" requirement for it to receive a cover bonus as the terrain rules need to account for forests, fields, ruined buildings and other types of homemade terrain in the main AOS game. He said if they "control" the terrain feature like an objective (used for battle tactics and that green side twist) that it grants them the bonus. He's very much a case of the type of gamer that does "creative use of game mechanics" but I just couldn't accept that the intention of a cover rule would be for a unit line up against a wall like a firing squad would be granted a cover save from shooting. I haven't played tabletop since 40k 3rd edition so am still trying to learn the changes and forget base assumptions

>>96173119
No one is saying that.

>>96173875
>Galene of Ulgu
epub and mobi in rar
litter.catbox.moe/2pghted6934nl2qc.rar

>>96174284
Based

>>96174102
>>96174347
You need to build up you AoS Morathi gallery. The one from Total War doesn't really work.

>>96174347
What's she showing her?

>>96174479
A 40min compilation of her pegging doomfire warlocks

>>96174486
proof?

>>96174553
Look at how excited she is and how horrified alarielle is, it's obvious

>>96174415
I know but there's barely any

>>96174624
Gay sex is pretty horrifying ngl

New KO seem to have a good amount of head options, looks like you can go full helmets

>>96174736
That's nice. Looks like a good amount of random bits and shit in general which is always good to see.

>>96174694
Pegging isn't gay bro

>>96174736
10 for 5 dudes with two builds isn't much?

>>96174624
There is this comic of Morathi having seggs with other gods:

>>96174864
I was half expecting less DESU

>>96174967
Tell me more

>>96174853
That's a man though

>>96174736
I count 4 full helmets
No I don't count beardlet femoids.

reminder

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/bFtoXcEa/were-the-stormvaults-doomed-to-fail-ahead-of-loremasters-we-have-a-few-thoughts/

>>96175054
I don't believe you

>>96175180
Natalie Mars is a trans woman

>>96175176
Even though they end up looking like shit 9 out of 10 times I do admire this guy's commitment to trying out every godawful colour scheme known to man, hoping to find a diamond in the rough.

>>96175175
they basically did nothing with this shit, I was expecting a Warhammer Quest game based on the idea

>>96175202
I would have been down for that.

>>96175201
aye, contrast slop but you sometimes chances upon a single colour you like. I might steal the kahki recipe in the middle for example

>>96172155
stormhost are subfactions, literally every single army in both aos and 40k have different subfactions, stupid thing to bitch about.

>>96175201
its just a way for them to show different paints on models i guess, noone in their right mind would think they look good

>>96172181
Basic skeletons suck and you'll have no wizards. Having Vargheist for mobility and contesting far objs is also a big deal.

>>96175212
Stormhosts were deliberately implemented as Chapters just as Stormcasts are based upon Marines. They started selling upgrade packs and probably planned for more diversity but the scale of such was beyond their means at the time.
Subfactions are natural, Stormhosts are forced.

>>96173209
There's a deeper symbolic significance to it that really drives them into a rage, its an overt signal that AoS is and will remain the main game for fantasy.

>>96175223
>Subfactions are natural, Stormhosts are forced.
This makes no sense whatsoever, and you fags would be drooling all over it if they released vampire subfaction sprues.

>>96175212
Of course, but the way stormhosts are organized, and how they are founded in different 'striking' is very intentionally modelled after marines and their different chapters. How many other subfactions did they (try to) sell upgrade sprues for ?

>>96175249
its not modelled after marines, marines chapters were formed by rediscovering lost primarchs on conquered worlds during the crusade. Stormcast were made in a magic factory like new upgraded iphone versions.

>>96175243
GW said they're marines. They have chapter adjacent organisations of distinct Stormcast which were promoted as though they were chapters.
It's not the case anymore but you're reaching to act as though it wasn't. Don't bother posting it you know nothing on the subject

>>96175270
>They have chapter adjacent organisations of distinct Stormcast which were promoted as though they were chapters.
this is word salad.

add it to the list of dumb shit people on this thread will argue over
>horse proportions
>whether or not kruleboyz are inspired by old orc designs
>stormhosts being based on marine chapters
looking forward to the next autistic topic

retards

>>96175333
>>96175333
>>96175333

>>96175329
NOOOOO PAULDRON UPGRADE PACKS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING
>GW lied when they detailed their influences
>RGW books didn't happen

>>96175259
Stop coping already.