Thread 96166502

Our game got derailed by a stupid argument, I'm still annoyed.
In brief, the bad guy is an evil, infernalist sorcerer. He was just a kid when his parents (harmless hippie-types) got killed by witch-hunters, so he got mad, got swole and sold his soul to the devil to become a sorcerer.
He dramatically makes his last stand in his vault filled with tragic keepsakes, and my PC (a Cleric) tells him "They should have slit your throat like your worthless parents" before I deal the couo de grace.
Well apparently that didn't sit well with one of the other PCs, she's upset I made fun of him before we killed him.
So I ask "What do you want me to do, he's in Hell now" and she doesn't want to do anything about it, she just wants to be mad because I said "Yeah, fuck that shithead's feelings."
I mean what

Perfectly plausible scenario that 100% happened.
>she
And I found your problem.

>>96166597
You being stupid is not the issue here.

>>96166502 (OP)
Ask her if she wants you to bring him back to life, so you can kill him 'politely'.

>>96166502 (OP)
What alignment is your cleric? If you're good then I'd berate you for being a dick. If you're neutral or evil then I wouldn't really care.

Why would you play with a woman?

>>96166502 (OP)
>his parents (harmless hippie-types) got killed by witch-hunters
>"They should have slit your throat like your worthless parents"
>they slit the throats of harmless people
>gives up everything to avenge their death
>this is the backstory of a bad guy

Yeah, fucking crazy, right? Who could've saw it coming that he was a sympathetic bad-guy with misguided intent to right wrongs?

>>96166908
Lawful Neutral.

>>96166936
Yeah man
I'm sure it justifies the devil worship and selling his soul
Maybe the faggot should've taken it like the bitchboy he was

>>96167023
What was he suppose to do? Join the church and murder innocent people in the name of the lord?

>>96167041
Maybe just be a peasant?

>>96166502 (OP)
Sounds like she has issues about her parents and maybe your character's actions reminded her of them?

Maybe also try to explain to her that the character you play isnt you, that you are ROLEPLAYING and not such a vindictive dick in real life? Maybe also explain what roleplaying is to her? RPGs often bring out the feelings of players who can't seperate themselves from who they (or others) are playing in an imaginary game of make believe, they think the actions of the characters are real and a representation of the player in real life.

>mock sympathetic villain
>be surprised you look like a psycho
if you don't want people to think you're a bad person don't roleplay as one without context

You should never have a woman in your group

>>96167082
Having a sad sob story doesn't make anyone less of a dick

>>96167076
If you don't know people rp shitheads as a way to be a shithead without repercusions you're a newfag
Go play WoD and see how everyone is just as toxic as their characters.

>>96166502 (OP)
Sounds to me like the player is disgusted at you, the player, for expressing the same sort of gleefully self-righteous vindictiveness that led to a guy becoming an evil sorcerer. Apparently with zero self-awareness.

>>96167072
maybe go kill every warlock because they're in the same boat

>>96166765
I would totally do that for shit and giggles if allowed.

>>96167083
Shut up nogames tard.

>>96167072
So this is a classest thing. I getcha. Worthless unless he stackin up them coins. Why didn't he entrepreneur his way out of being the victim? With an abnormal upbringing and lack of parental guidance.

>>96167094
He killed thousands of people, I have no fucking sympathy for him
Also he was gay

>>96167397
That doesn't make you any less evil. "You should have been killed when you were helpless" only underlines that he was correct to try and gain power to defend himself against you and your ilk because nothing else could possibly work.

>>96167438
No, I am by definition on the side of Good, because I killed an evildoer. Me joshing him a little before I split his skull with my greatsword makes me a little cooler, a little more dark fantasy, but it ain't evil.
Well, unless you think the statement "Osama should have been aborted, so he couldn't do 9/11" is somehow evil.

>>96167510
Killing evil people doesn't make you good. Evil people do that all the time.

>>96167510
Anon, saying that he should've been killed when he was a helpless and innocent child, long before he was evil, while also shitting on his innocent, murdered parents, is pretty fucked up. It's the kind of pointless, petty sadism that a good guy, or even just a cool guy, wouldn't get up to.

>>96167545
I guess that makes me Neutral then

>>96167545
Not that guy but he's objectively right. He might be cruel about it, but he's right. The world would indeed be better if the entire family was killed.

>>96167554
Being cruel isn't good.
The world would have been better if none of the family was murdered. "The world is bad because we didn't murder enough innocents" is an entirely evil sentiment.

>>96167560
Maybe OP's problem was not being thorough enough.

>>96167552
Nah, that kind of cruelty for cruelty's sake is more Evil, not big-time evil in this case, but small-time evil is still evil.

>>96167554
Or, hear me out, maybe the workd would be a better place if the parents weren't murdered and if a justifiably angry kid didn't make bad choices to get revenge.

>>96166502 (OP)
To be honest he's doomed his people. Think about it, if his kind was already being persecuted and they spawned Magneto, now they're fucked. Their extermination is going to leap into overdrive.

>>96166908
Alignment is descriptive, not prescriptive, and has nothing at all to do with how you or your character should react to the actions of others, you absolute fucking mongoloid.

>>96166502 (OP)
>she
I found your issue. You should not be surprised. I am not one to say that you should never play with women, but if you play with women you should expect them to be women, and have women moments, including the inability to separate between themselves and their characters.

>>96166502 (OP)
If you kill an African warlord, but call him a racial slur and make monkey noises as he dies, is that evil?
OOH OOOH OOOOKKKKK

>>96166502 (OP)
>"They should have slit your throat like your worthless parents" before I deal the couo de grace.
>Well apparently that didn't sit well with one of the other PCs
To be honest that's a tryhard edgy thing to say, I would have cringed pretty hard if someone said some shit like that at my table.

>>96167674
The thing that's weird to me is that the villain was not a PC from what I understand.
If that was my PC being killed with a joke, then I may be mildy annoyed... but if we're killing an villain and someone wants to be edgy then why should I stop their fun?
The worst that could happen is me playing in a serious campaign and someone going "Oopsie doopsie silly me I killed you like your family >.<" or something like that, otherwise go ahead and desecrate the villain's corpse if you care, people deal with evil men however they desire.

>>96166502 (OP)
>I am autistic: The Daily Bitching Thread

>>96167143
It worked for batman. All orphans should just become batman.

>>96167711
Woman

>>96167711
I wasn't there, I don't know what really happened but the way it looks to me is that you where an edgelord at the table and one player didn't like it, then you ran over to /tg/ and wrote a blogpost about being a le epic chad that triggers people. You can do what you like but don't expect me to be impressed with it.

>>96166502 (OP)
She or "she," because the response will be different.

>>96167721
First step to that us inheriting a whole lot of money, though, and that's easier said than done.

>>96167843
I think he meant, like, it was just an NPC anyway.

>>96167711
Because OP's tone suggests he thought he was playing a cool badass rather than an edgy asshole. And has continued to defend, "We should have killed more helpless orphans" as good rather than in-character as an antihero.
The other player may well be a whiny overreacting bitch, but even from his own side of the story OP sounds like a shithead.

>>96167877
I mean yeah it was an NPC sure, but some of these things people do at the table can still mess with other players. Like if someone is being a murderhobo at the table or too much of an edgelord. RPGs are a social hobby you know? There are people other than you at the table so you have to read the room sometimes.

>>96166502 (OP)
To clarify, is she mad at you IC or OOC?

It's perfectly reasonable for her to be mad at you IC, just as it was perfectly reasonable for your character to say something spiteful and decidedly not Good in the heat of the moment.

If she's mad at you OOC, that's another story. That would reveal an inability to separate fiction from reality. I would politely explain to her that you had your character speak based on his feelings (or convictions, if that was his true belief), and that it's not a reflection of your own beliefs... unless it is, in which case you two will probably just have to avoid the subject.

>>96166502 (OP)
>She
I mean, are you really surprised?

I don't have a problem with girls joining the group if they're fucking one of the other players or if they're gonna bake snacks for the group but that comes at a cost. The occasional 'woman moment' isn't exactly unexpected.

>>96167143
Anon Ogg cut to the heart of the sociopolitical debate

>>96166502 (OP)
>>96166936
Hippies are never harmless, the witch hunters were in the right

>>96167143
>maybe he should've been a productive member of society
>REEEEEEE MUH GABIDALISM
Why are commies like this?

Throw it back at her
>Oh I'm sorry, did I hurt his feelings when we were killing him? Well shit, I guess I'll have to go tell the families of his victims that we need to bring him back so I can apologize. Boy that's going to take a while, there's a fucking hell of a list I need to get through.
Then you just walk off while casually listing random NPCs that you apparently need to go visit in the most sarcastic tone possible.

If you're going to be an asshole, go all in, swing for them cheap seats.

>>96167539
In D&D, killing Evil absolutely does make you Good.

>>96167560
It's true though, imagine today if the.... oh nevermind

>>96168118
How many duergar would a drow cleric of Lolth have to kill before her alignment changes from Evil to Good?

>>96168118
>In D&D

>>96167586
Not really, being a nigger is a mindset but sometimes a nigger happens to be black.

>>96166502 (OP)
I can't help but see this tale being told to me by some 17 year old wearing all black clothes with multiple piercings. And/or a naruto headband like sasuke-kun. Cause yeah, anyone that thinks that line is stone-cold badass instead of some laughably tryhard edgelord stuff I would give the side eye too myself.

>>96167083
There was no woman in that group, except in "her" delusions.

>>96168519
>He's never hated anyone enough to say shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1BEsvnzaFU
>When asked about how she felt about the situation, all Gary's ex wife had to say was 'You could've let me drive you to the airport'

>>96168574
Oh yeah, I've said some really vicious things to some That Guys before, but I never thought I was cool while doing it. I just felt stupid afterwards for feeling the need to tap into my inner edgelord against someone who annoyed me one too many times.

>>96168526
Obsessed

>>96167560
This guy gets it. The true act of evil was committed by the "good guys" first and then they're surprised when it spawns vengeance.

>>96167877
Nothing in the game is actually happening, but the whole reason it's fun to interact with NPCs is the pretense that there is a level of reality to them.

>>96166502 (OP)
But Jill never said that.

>>96167539
Look at this faggot. He's the reason criminals run rampant. You could murder a family and this effeminate cuck would ask that you be hugged and given a second chance because it's evil to do otherwise.

>>96169043
That's clearly not what he said.

>>96167076
My wife plays a game with someone like this. The player never wants to be in a situation where her character isn't definitively in the moral right since it makes her exceedingly uncomfortable. This would be fine if it was limited to her but to achieve this type of play necessitates her companions (the other players) also be unquestionably good. They are presently playing LANCER which in my opinion is best played somewhat grey on the count that the majority of the game is played from the cockpit of a giant, heavily-armed warmachine designed to wreak havoc on anything around it.

Women are irrational. Giving them the vote was a mistake, their very sapience is a mistake that should be corrected.

>>96167674
>>96167881
>>96169622
What libtard beta normies call being edgy is known as being an alpha to the based and redpilled.

>>96169792
What based and redpilled guys call "being alpha" is known as cringe and lame to anyone old enough that their voice isn't still cracking.

>You hate and wish to inflict suffering on the person that killed countless innocent people, that's cringe and gay bro
Hate can be as virtuous as love, anyone who tells you otherwise either intends to do something they suspect you'll hate them for, or hates you and wishes to retain that advantage.

>>96169051
>That's not what he sa-
Yeah but that's how it plays out time and again isn't it?
>Sure my daughter was murdered by an illegal, but man I sure do love Tacos!
Never be a Mr Tibbet.
Always be a Mr Plauche.

>>96167721
Batman was rich as fuck though
He was always rich and didn't stop being rich because his parents died

>>96169904
>>96169930
Otto Von Bismarck was so successful because he grasped and wielded hate, an emotion more powerful than any other and God's greatest gift. He once remarked "I have spent the whole night hating" though it would be difficult to find a single rural conservative American who could not honestly respond with a "bitch please". A people filled with hate are a people destined to be strong and powerful.

>>96169930
People will post this stupid bullshit, demanding that whenever a crime is committed against someone you love, you must start violently hating every member of whatever group the perpetrator belongs to, then get deeply offended when people go after the most violent demographic of them all: men.

>>96169904
>Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you - Matthew 5:44

>>96169957
>Men
What kind of men, go on, say it.
Be more specific.

>>96169975
Men make up over 90% of all murderers, and a similarly high proportion of rapists, but if a feminist dares to suggest there's something wrong with men, you go into conniptions.

Strange, isn't it? Why does this logic only apply to illegal immigrants, who commit fewer murders per capita than the native population? Hmm. Maybe because the "logic" is paper thin and just an excuse for bigotry? Jerking off to how much you hate people is, actually, pathetic and cringe, that's why you're posting it on 4chan instead of going out and saying it in real life.

>>96170018
The kind with penises.

>>96170020
>illegal immigrants, who commit fewer murders per capita than the native population
2/10 - The number of replies you got from me.
Try harder in your trolling, retard.

>>96170020
>who commit fewer murders per capita than the native population
Written by someone with a long nose I suspect.

>>96169975
>>96170046
The containment board must be leaking again.

>>96170037
>>96170046
Sorry, the fact that illegal immigrants commit fewer murders is just a well-established scientific fact. That you don't like it doesn't change it. What's that saying? Facts don't care about your feelings?

>>96170020
hard to convict someone of murder when they simply nope back to another country after committing the crime, this alone would heavily skew those statistics.

Women also commit a higher amount of child abuse, false sexual allegations and child terminations via abortion.

Who knew women and men are different and might commit different crimes, better watch yourself the internalized misogyny is coming out because women and men are exactly the same and anything stating otherwise is patriarchy.

>>96170113
Yes, rightoids, when confronted with the fact that facts cut against their narratives, routinely make up shit based on nothing, thanks for demonstrating.

>>96170076
remove black people from that graph and watch the crime rate plummet. Why are you being so racist by pointing out black people commit 50% of violent crimes?

>>96170129
again felony arrest rates stated very clearly at the bottom of your graph. People tend to be arrested after the murder has happened days and sometimes months later. If pedro kills three people nopes five states over and gets a new fake id it will be very hard to ARREST him.

You leftist cultists have a hard time understanding deductive reasoning.

>>96169792
You should either use less buzzwords or spice it up more. You've only used the boring ones and none of the really off-the-deep-end retarded ones. Your bait is weak and you should practice

>>96170020
Uh huh
Which men?

>>96170066
>Muh /pol/!

>>96170076
took a look at where you study comes from, most liberal states do not record immigration status when convicting, that specific graph and the study attached found corrected data later from texas and found another 8 illegal aliens convicted of homicide which brought the numbers almost in line with native born citizens. Furthermore, black people disproportionally commit violent crimes and are convicted of such so removing that subgroup of the us population and correcting the actual numbers of illegal alien homicides leads to a higher rate of homicide per capita than every other ethnic group OTHER THAN black people.

Studies are only as good as the impartiality of the people conducting it. The real truth is illegals commit less violent crimes than black people, but more than native born asian, hispanic, white etc.

>>96170113
>>96170131
>>96170145
>>96170201
>>96170218
It's impossible to kill a leftist because they are p-zombies. The closest thing to killing one is breaking it.

>>96166502 (OP)
Definitely an evil, sadistic thing to say. You’re acting like she flipped out and derailed everything for objecting in-character. Obviously anyone can say whatever they want, you can’t control that/she can’t control you, but making a post about it is kind of funny. You seem just as upset.

>>96170145
>>96170218
These are heavy claims. Do you got a statistical source for them to counter their own source? Particularly that corrected data you're alleging.

>>96170331
>NPC meme
>unironic use of “p-zombie”
Holy shit it’s 2019 again

>>96170364
You hate it because you know it describes you perfectly.

>>96170374
Who said I hated it?

>>96170401
See >>96170364

>>96166502 (OP)
Anon are you autistic by any chance?

>>96170406
I got washed over with a wave of nostalgia and posted. That’s not hate. You’re a little touchy.

>>96170331
>>96170374

>>96170431
I'm taking this. This will work so well in response to that Schizo who keeps arguing that the Skaven are muh superior objectivist ubermensch.

>>96167041
I mean that's clearly working out for OP

>>96168519
This. OP absolutely stinks of being underage or emotionally mal-adjusted, even by the standards of people on 4chan.

>"They should have slit your throat like your worthless parents"
Tone matters. That, to me, is a villain's line, or the first clue to the reader/audience that one of our protagonists is starting to go off the rails a little. If you had to make a parents reference, a "do you think they would have raised you for this?" or similar would have felt more ... moral? "Goodie-coded"? Not sure I know a good word for it, but I hope you see what I mean.

>>96170494
I'd go with "honorable" or restrained. Or in general,

>In War, Resolution; In Defeat, Defiance; In Victory, Magnanimity; and in Peace, Good Will

>>96170494
Sometimes you want to be a bit of a hateful bastard. Not everyone needs to be a boyscout all the time.

>>96170363
go look up the study yourself, it took me five minutes to find it, find the authors corrected projections, extrapolate the very well-known statistics for black violent crime from the original graph and draw the comparisons between illegal, legal black and the rest of the population. The study author even admits his feet were held to the fire when the additional 8 convicts were added to his original tally bringing it up to the 'native citizen' population numbers, he just then failed to further factor in the breakdown native citizen crime by ethnic groups.

cold hard truth is illegals are slightly less violent than blacks, followed distantly by everyone else.

>>96169792
Bullying is wrong anon, you can do better.

>>96170624
Bullying maintains society. Without it, it decays.

>>96170600
If it took you 5 minutes to find your alleged source, then it should take even less time for you to link it here.

>>96170635
The thing that maintains society is people waking up every day and trying their best knowing they might fail, you can be one of those people anon, I believe in you.

>>96170646
not your personal researcher.

>>96170659
If you're not going to present any evidence other than your word, then the only thing I need to dismiss you is my own word.

>>96170656
Exactly, bullying provides incentive for the weak and degenerate to correct themselves or remove themselves. Either way is a win for society.

>>96170659
If you're not going to present any evidence for the existence of this supposed follow-up study than your own word that I can dismiss it with nothing other than my own word.

>>96170666
you were going to dismiss everything anyway; we both know you never started replying with any intent to open your mind to the many statistical breakdowns of crime by ethnicity or detailed analysis of the original cited image.

My rebuttal clashes with your liberal orthodoxy and the accepted frame must be upheld even in the face of facts that prove it wrong. This was never a discussion to change your already closed mind, it was a rebuttal proving you wrong for third parties, so they don't trust the false premise you spat out.

>>96170695
>you were going to dismiss everything anyway
Says who? Post a link to the follow up study you're talking about.
> the accepted frame must be upheld even in the face of facts that prove it wrong
Show me the facts you're talking about.

>>96170252
Yeah? So?

>>96170700
again go do it yourself I'm not your personal researcher.

We both know the script you'll follow, first demand a source, then claim the source isn't valid, then when presented with multiple sources claim the sources don't have the proper credentials, then when that is proven wrong attack the basis for the counter evidence, then claim institutional racism, and lastly default to calling the opposition names like chud. Lefty gameplan is always the same I've got better crap to do, so go ahead get your last word in and greentext small snippits of this reply so you can self soothe and feel smug.

>>96170737
>https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117
I'll show you how it's done. Here's a link.
>https://www.pnas.org/authored-by/Light/Michael+T
>https://www.pnas.org/authored-by/He/Jingying
>https://www.pnas.org/authored-by/Robey/Jason+P
And here's the links to other studies the authors made, with no sign of the follow-up study you're talking about.

>>96170737
When on /k/, they skip to just calling names, though since they know that their typical names will expose themselves, they just create dishonest narratives of opposition to Globalism coming from browns, thirdies or troons, which is nonsensical since Globalism is extremely supportive of all three. They have also corrupted the practice of demanding the posting of a gun, where posting one just gets further mockery, or a even one of their moderation infiltrators deleting the hand and gun posted and then lying about what was in the pictures they deleted.

There is no punishment that is disproportionate to the crime of being a liberal. I can't wait to go Basedwanger on them in the civil war. I want to rip out their fingernails and toenails. I want to nail their lying tongues to tables. I want to inject them with strychinine and watch them convulse to death. I want to release vicious dogs on them to tear them to pieces. I want to smash their limbs one-by-one and then leave them in crippled agony. I want to pull their eyes out. I want to cut them with rusty knives. I want to give a starving one hope by giving him food and then once he's eaten, shoot him in the stomach so he dies in agony. I want to flay them alive. I want to feed them inch by inch feet first into ovens. I want to break each and every bone in their limbs. I want to tear their bleeding hearts out. I want to grind powdered glass, dirt and wood chippings into their wounds. I want to strap them to chairs and whenever they beg for sustenance, force feed them salt water. I want to force them to choose between killing their fellows and watching their fellows get tortured. I want to put them into high-pressure chambers until the eyes pop out of their sockets. I want to electrocute them until they are cooking alive. I want to bury them in sand up to their heads and then cut off the last of their air with a fishbowl. I want to cut their limbs off and then sew them back onto the stumps in the wrong places. I want to submerge them in freezing water until the body turns black from frostbite. I want to use drills to destroy their joints. I want to pull out their teeth one by one. I want to force them to make their disgusting nu-male smile so wide that the jaw gets pulled off. I want to cover them in honey and leave them restrained to be eaten by vermin. I want to drop them out of flying helicopters. I want to cook them alive and then force their fellows to eat them and if they vomit, force them to eat the vomit. What other acts of justice can we come up with?

>>96170563
True, but personally I think it's one thing to say "We'd have all been better off had you died with them", quite another to be calling the (apparently innocent) dead 'worthless'. I just think it's a bit "what the Dark Lieutenant says standing over the cliff edge" - but, hey, takes all sorts.
Hmm. There's a thought. You sure you checked the body, OP?

>>96170788
You should put all that energy into creative endeavours! You could write some great snuff smut :)

>>96170672
The incentive to improve yourself should come from a place of kindness and respect, and if you where bullied into improving yourself than what happens when you leave high school? Do you stop improving because none will flush your head down the toilet if you don't? You should find that strength within anon, rise above the hate.

>>96170800
I'm not OP, I just see where he's coming from and that place being 'The four corpses your enemy is standing upon does not justify the mountain you have built of your own volition'

>>96170899
Super-man is the last man. A slave easily shamed by the value of the masses. Homelander decides that what's good for him is right and makes it so.

>>96166502 (OP)
Calling the dead innocents worthless is where you crossed the line for her, not being a spiteful douchebag towards the villain. Saying "you should have died with your parents" or something similar without denigrating them would have likely gone over better, and made you look like less of a tool.

>>96166502 (OP)
Its a conflict between you wanting to be badass and the inherent dramatic narrative pathos that the scene provides as the downfall of a tragic but ultimately fallen man.
If he was just evil for the sake of evil then it would of been fine to call him a little bitch Duke Nukem style but their was clearly more going on.
The chick in your group both picked up on that and was mad enough to voice an opinion on it because women.

>>96171260
>the inherent dramatic narrative pathos that the scene provides as the downfall of a tragic but ultimately fallen man.
Not OP, but denying him his 'Woe is me, I am but a smol bean who was driven to this, pity me for I too am the hero of my own story ;_;' is entirely justifiable.
You can call it pathos all you like but at the end of the day him dying with the words 'You're not a hero, you're just a cocksucker who killed a lot of innocent people' still ringing in his ears is not just legitimate, it's an accurate description of the situation from the perspective of the one doing the killing.

>>96171181
>Super-man is the last man
Superman/Kal-El is the camel CHOOSING to embody social morality bearing the weight of people's expectations and hopes.
>Homelander decides that what's good for him is right and makes it so.
Does he? He can't trust anyone around him not even himself forever trapped in a Hegelian dialectic of masters and slaves unable to resolve it due to his staggering lack of introspection, hardly a favorable outcome.

>>96171306
>You can call it pathos all you like but at the end of the day him dying with the words 'You're not a hero, you're just a cocksucker who killed a lot of innocent people' still ringing in his ears is not just legitimate, it's an accurate description of the situation from the perspective of the one doing the killing.
Then why didn't he lead with that instead of getting a dig at the guy's dead hippie parents? Most people make it clear that a person's misdeeds are their own, only edgelords think that it sounds remotely cool to get in a dig at the innocent as a man dies.

>>96171306
>>96171365
The other respectable option is just silence, no big speeches or letting him get the last word in, just a cut and its done, letting the series of events that led up to that moment and the silence afterwards speak for you.

>>96171346
>Superman/Kal-El is the camel CHOOSING to embody social morality bearing the weight of people's expectations and hopes.
So a cuck, bound not by chains made by anyone but ones made entirely by himself.
>He can't trust anyone around him
So the ubermensch who puts himself above all others and smashes aside any obstacle in the pursuit of his power.
>not even himself
Bullcrap. The only one he truly trusts is himself like any proper ubermensch.

>>96171439
>Homelander
>Ubermensch
Lol

>>96171439
>bound not by chains made by anyone but ones made entirely by himself.
In "Thus spoke Zarathustra" Niche describes the "three metamorphoses" which are stages by which the spirit is elevated, the stages are the camel, the lion and the child. The first metamorphosis is that of the camel a stage where you voluntarily take on the heaviest burdens you can find embodying good as you understand it to the highest degree you can with other stages transcending that morality step by step.
>So the ubermensch who puts himself above all others and smashes aside any obstacle in the pursuit of his power.
Gratifying your appetites doesn't make you an ubermensch, what your thinking of is master morality, which would be better than slave morality but an ubermensch would create his own values rather than just being a "mere" master. If gratifying your desires made you an ubermensch on it's own that wouldn't being a cuckold make you an ubermensch? After all your gratifying your desires by watching your wife take the BBC.
>Bullcrap. The only one he truly trusts is himself like any proper ubermensch.
The ubermensch transcends the self.

>>96171475
The guy didn't even turn evil of his own accord, he got gaslit into thinking he had by Black Noir sending him pictures of "himself" committing terrible deeds until Homelander decided he might as well lean into it.

>>96171475
I mean, Cnair in the Second Apocalypse had an answer to a smug dude.
He beat him and raped him.

>>96172651
Not only would that have proved the smug dude's point, Highlander was too chickenshit to do even that

>>96166502 (OP)
she thought she could fix him

>>96172682
I don't really get why there's all that worry about letting your enemy land a sick burn, when the answer is "I guess, but I'm faster and stronger than you."
The point of Homelander was that he wasn't an actual psychopath. A genuine psychopath wouldn't have cared about the mouth-noises the silly man was making.
And that's kind of cool, the "A corpse is talking" school of dealing with people.

>>96171365
Not that guy, but it's like telling someone how small his balls are before you kick them. Nothing causes more despair than knowing you're not just going to die, you're going to die at the hands of someone who has no empathy for you.
If a guy kills a lot of people because his wife was raped, the best thing way to really twist the knife is to tell him "I'd have fucked that bitch too" before you kill him.

>>96170252
>You need to waste your time actually formulating an argument for a retard that you know can't actually comprehend it
If you want an argument, make one, p-zombie.

>>96172856
The point of Homelander is that for all his bluster, he's not the vicious bastard he wishes he could be, nor is he the ubermensch anon was mentioning, he was as small-minded and boring as any other man despite hahving the powers of a god, and people may fear what he does but nobody will ever respect him for it

>>96172868
That just makes it sound even more pathetic, frankly

>>96172964
You say that, but imagine being in that situation. It's like the people who say that bullies are lame and gay, and why don't you just stand up to them? while not having to deal with that stuff themselves.

>>96172988
Even if you didn't provide an actual example of an irl pathetic group of wasteoids, the example is of some guy trying to basically avenge his dead parents because he believes the church are essentially a bunch of evil bullies who kill the innocent. All a comment like "They should have slit your throat like your worthless parents" straight from the representative of that religion does is just prove the little shit right, nevermind that it's being said by some fat neckbeard in person doing his best Nathan Explosion gurgling. Why shouldn't I make fun of it?

>>96173029
Sometimes the bullies win, I guess.

Anyone have more art of the old style hellguns with the wires in the grip?

>>96167570
>Or, hear me out, maybe the workd would be a better place if the parents weren't murdered and if a justifiably angry kid didn't make bad choices to get revenge.

But then there wouldn't have been any reason to play the game, because there would be no villain to fight.

>>96167881
>"We should have killed more helpless orphans"

You're deliberately misinterpreting OP's statement here to try and make them sound like more of an asshole. Very dishonest of you, for shame. Never did they call for the blanket extermination of helpless orphans everywhere, at all times, the only said that this SPECIFIC orphan who went on to murder thousands of people should have been killed before they managed to commit all those murders. It should not be difficult for you to understand that saying a thing should have been done one time, does not necessarily mean the speaker is calling for it to be done in excess. This is basic reading comprehension, you can do better anon I believe in you.

>>96173029
lmao
god damn

>>96170659
Sounds like you don't have any confidence in your source

>>96168300
She'd have to go through Neutral stages first, and refrain from other acts that make her Evil. Just because fighting Evil makes you more Good doesn't mean that it's enough to make up for all the torture and rape and so on. Retard.

>>96174428
He's simply lying.

>>96170015
okay now read the rest of the book to see what happens to those who are unrepentant in their sins. If the evil cult man had shown repentence before OP dropped the edge quote on him, you'd have a point but Christianity is fully ok with dealing in violence against those who beget violence against the innocent.

>>96170680
>>96174428
the original source was not posted either, merely a screenshot of it, thus your claims of dismissal are equally baseless

>>96173029
>All a comment like "They should have slit your throat like your worthless parents" straight from the representative of that religion does is just prove the little shit right,
me when the hague hangs me for my crimes against humanity that I committed because one evil dude wronged me once but the hangman was racist to me before I dropped and so my cause became justified.

>>96166502 (OP)
Okay.
So why is there a flash coming from the side of the shotgun, but not smoke? Cause gun powder

>>96174828
smokeless powder was invented almost 200 years ago

>>96174710
It's because Jesus has forgiven him :)

>>96174685
It's over here: >>96170757

your liberal propaganda study was conducted without due diligence using all the data available, the results for illegals being more law abiding were skewed because they wanted an outcome. The truth is a good amount of illegals are incarcerated as native citizens and later discovered to be illegal due to the false identities discovered after incarceration. The liberal study cited ignore the after-conviction discoveries in order to come to a preset conclusion. When you factor in post conviction status being changed to illegal the crime rate is roughly the same as natives then further factor OUT the black crime %'s and native white/hispanics commit far less crimes.

>>96170757
>>96177046
when corrected for persons identified as illegal after incarceration the crime rate among illegals ends up higher.

https://cis.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/texas-crime.pdf

blacks commit violent crime at higher rates than whites or hispanics but are disproportionately lower in population size than either.

https://crimeresearch.org/2023/11/violent-crime-rates-by-race/
https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/united-states-population-by-race/

To further show the bias the study cited also used estimated data on the total illegal immigrant population that was extrapolated from the average us states with illegal populations, california and new york with its sanctuary cities alone would skew those estimated population numbers higher than texas who actively extradites illegals.

The problem with liberal studies is they make too many assumptions without the raw data to back it up, they cut corners and extrapolate with incomplete data then post the findings for the cult members to parrot. Illegals commit less crime than blacks but more than everyone else, the data is pretty clear.

What's next on the list, arguing the validity of the sources I cited due to it going contrary to the narrative? How long till we hit the calling me a jealous chud........

tl;dr

>edgelord op
>player is not impressed by pointless cruelty
>op whines to tg

fuck you for wasting my time

>>96166908
Show me the rule that says that alignment says you can't make an insult.

Do it, cunt slut.

As everyone has said IC this is completely fine, OOC it's weird.

>>96168300
*cocks spider swarm*
There's only way to find out.

>>96166502 (OP)
Just have your character be polite from now on unless he feels strongly about it for some reason. Mature people avoid easily avoidable conflicts with mature coworkers.

>>96166597
Note that it is a PC that's a she. Makes it more plausible.

>>96183500
>Cocks spider swarm
You fool, that's how you get Lolth-based STDs!

>>96183627
Sounds amusing. Be good, but have your cock detect as evil.

>>96183637
>The shit I'm going to do to you is so foul that my cock is going to set of Paladins for weeks
Great pick up line while hanging around in the Underdark actually.

>>96178418
>https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/124923/version/V1/view
>To further show the bias the study cited also used estimated data on the total illegal immigrant population that was extrapolated from the average us states with illegal populations, california and new york with its sanctuary cities alone would skew those estimated population numbers higher than texas who actively extradites illegals.
That's a lie, the geographic area that the peer reviewed study I cited was limited to gathering data from Texas. It wasn't taking information from California or New York.
>The problem with liberal studies is they make too many assumptions without the raw data to back it up
The link at the top is the raw data that the peer reviewed study sources. A link to the raw data is conspicuously absent in your Center for Immigration Studies source, which also isn't a peer reviewed journal.
>arguing the validity of the sources I cited
That's a legitimate critique of arguments. Any fool can write a blog post stating the benefits of replacing pasteurized milk with raw (not pasteurized) milk in ones diet (https://rawfarmusa.com/blog/if-you-drink-raw-milk-every-day-this-might-happen-to-your-body) but compared to a peer reviewed study (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4890836/), it's nowhere near a good source of information. The PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) source is a peer reviewed study. The Centre for Immigration Studies source is not.

>>96178418
>https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/124923/version/V1/view
>To further show the bias the study cited also used estimated data on the total illegal immigrant population that was extrapolated from the average us states with illegal populations, california and new york with its sanctuary cities alone would skew those estimated population numbers higher than texas who actively extradites illegals.
That's a lie, the geographic area that the peer reviewed study I cited was limited to gathering data from Texas. It wasn't taking information from California or New York.
>The problem with liberal studies is they make too many assumptions without the raw data to back it up
The link at the top is the raw data that the peer reviewed study sources. A link to the raw data is conspicuously absent in your Center for Immigration Studies source, which also isn't a peer reviewed journal.
>arguing the validity of the sources I cited
That's a legitimate critique of arguments. Any fool can write a blog post stating the benefits of replacing pasteurized milk with raw (not pasteurized) milk in ones diet (https://rawfarmusa.com/blog/if-you-drink-raw-milk-every-day-this-might-happen-to-your-body) but compared to a peer reviewed study (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4890836/), it's nowhere near a good source of information. The PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) source is a peer reviewed study. The Centre for Immigration Studies source is not.
>How long till we hit the calling me a jealous chud........
You haven't been called a single name here while in your post anticipating yourself getting called names, you've called people propagandists and cultists.

>>96174858
That's because you're firing in the "no smoking" section.

>>96167539
Spoken like someone who basks in the safety provided for her by men willing to kill and die to protect her way of life.

People are evil because of what they do. When they do evil enough things, sometimes the only recourse or option is to kill them. This is ontologically good.

>>96166502 (OP)
It's just a woman moment. No reason to seethe about to the point of making a thread about it.