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>>96165907

>Thread question:
You can add one new unit to your army. No named characters. What's your big idea

The chuds in /hhg/ think we're trolling them.

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
Votann in lore mine blackstone and also have a cloneskein that preduces blanks, so an anti psyker unit thats a blank clad in blackstone runes

>TQ
ORKS AUXILLARIES

>>96169589
>chud

>>96169589
Are there more Chuds in that General than this one usually?

>>96169589
They're bigots. Why would you pay attention to them?

>>96169573 (OP)
I would add the tanks back to EC.

Imperial agents expansion is coming!!! I CAN FEEL IT!!!
>TQ
Arbites vehicles. Administratum vehicles maybe like a big mech throne to collect taxes that's totally not Karamazov. Hive scum and so on

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ

>>96169609
>big eyebrows
>wrinkly mouth
>jojos back
thats a

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
I want my Basilisk back.

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
Orks I'd give a medium tank. Russ equivalent.
Sisters I'd like to have their Repressor back. Maybe make a shooty Celestian that's full special weapons.
For Guard some sort of flying Sentinel. Idk they seem pretty well rounded.
For Deldar all sorta shit. Maybe a gun Venom.
Muhreens don't need anything. Squat Primaris

>>96169608
I'd like them to have bikes

>>96169604
/hhg/ is full of chuds.

>>96169573 (OP)
>You can add one new unit to your army. No named characters. What's your big idea
Sisters of Battle on bikes

>>96169573 (OP)
A Drukhari transport that's a dias with a bunch of living people sewn on it. People disembarking all get Empowered in all phases

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
I want my Chosen the way they used to be in 4th edition.

I could have 4 special weapons of my choice, all the same gun.

>>96169609
>Arbites vehicles
taurox, valkyries
>Administratum vehicles
rhino, land raider

>>96169642
You would have been called a WAACfag for not taking the casual tax option

>>96169573 (OP)
Veteran scouts

>>96169631
Ill take drop churches please

>>96169573 (OP)
Voluptuous statuesque sister of battle terminator unit. Not nundam. Bulky thicc slow terminator brickhouse girls. Possible to have full melee loadout, with fists or swords, but also to go full bolter/melta/flamer trinity on all five models. But, they will be very monopose, with only two weapons of each, so if the players want full flamer termies, tough luck, you have retributor situation, buy at least three boxes. And to make her even more different from the other sisters, make head with cute face. You want your regular sisters to have cute heads? Buy thicc termies.

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
I want my AV13 dreadnought equivilent back from 3.5 where mutated hull made it as tough as a predator.

>>96169653
I won't after what they did to drop pods

>>96169604
For one, they don’t have Sallyfag

>>96169661
AV fucking sucked, glad its gone

>>96169665
What's that supposed to mean

>>96169663
>one of the worst value kits that no one ever wanted to buy
>made it ETB in hopes people would be encouraged to play them

Sounds fine to me

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
I want the ability to use all 9 of the obliterators we were tricked into buying. We can just use 6 in a list right now.
>this was legal when the current model was available

>>96169661
Brother!

>>96169676
obliterators look like shit

>>96169678
what the fuck is going on here

>>96169683
mark of nurgle?

>>96169678
>base made of multiple bases
cringe
>they're in the symbol of nurgle
it circles back into being based

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
I never bought one but I feel bad for those that did.

>>96169683
your brain when you think any kitbash/conversion is better than just buying a model

>>96169669
Who do you think keeps reporting people for using the black people word. He’s admitted to being a lefty.

Wealth beyond measure, hive dweller.

>look at daemon models
>don't go insane
yeah ok nice models GW you fucking hacks

>>96169683
Nurgle corrupted dreadnought.

>>96169681
That's what they're meant to look like.
Next you'll tell me they're not meant to be fleshy.
>but I don't like how it looks
paint the flesh metal then, the original hellbrute painted its "skin" in the same red as its plates, do I really need to be the one to tell you can paint the models in better schemes?

>>96169691
Of course it's based, there's three of them!

>>96169697
NECROMUNDA KEEPS WINNING

>>96169609
Nobody cares about agents. Not even you, you have no models

Salamanders are cool.

>>96169707
I still think they look like shit regardless of paint job.
You're projecting hard.

>>96169713
I thought their whole schtick was that they were warm

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
I want my old models to be on their 25mm bases. We never had primaris yet we must suffer.

I'll accept a 12 point marine at toughness 3.

>>96169713
no, they aren't
name 3 cool things about them

>>96169698
Daemons don't inherently drive people insane when they see them, what causes it is the way they move, the way they act, they inherently defy the laws of physics in a way your very soul doesn't like. A simple still image wouldn't show that.

>>96169651
How do veteran scouts work in lore? Do some SM just decide that they want to stay in the scout company?

>>96169718
Kek

>>96169713
>>96169718
Where does it say that they have the most Terminator Suits?

>>96169720
>name 3 cool things about them
Green, flamers, giant lizards.

>>96169719
>I'll accept a 12 point marine at toughness 3.
How about 10.5 points?

>>96169728
I dunno why you replied to me but fuck you.

>>96169713
ummm blackface?

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
I want salamanders to have a codex attachment showing their mass of terminators as battle line.

>>96169720
>>name 3 cool things about them
Dragon theme
Fire theme
Flamer and melta weapons
Thunder hammers
Scale cloaks
Master artisans
Cool guys all around

>>96169610
YJK

>>96169728
I dunno, probably inside some codex or codex supplement.

>>96169738
Non mary sue, they lose often and are a broken legion. A successor legion took their old name to mock them (Dragon Warriors).

I have to say though, their primarch grew up on a world and somehow obtained the locals coal skin. While the "Earthborn" legion of his had no coal skin.

>>96169728
Wrong green guys anon.

>>96169725
For example, Telion did that.
Another reason is a specialized unit in a chapter, or simply wanting more mobility/stealth compared to full power armor.
My DAs have Ravenwing Pathfinders, effectively veteran scouts. They exist for various reasons:
1) merging the Ravenwing and the Firewing after the heresy, it's an evolution of that
2) Hunting the fallen isn't always about brute force, a dagger can end wars
3) Some recon work can be required which cannot be entrusted to the scout company, because it's linked to the secret hunt for the fallen, therefore veteran scouts from the Ravenwing

Thank you for reading my mucho texto ted talk

>>96169754
>they lose often and are a broken legion
It off sets their coolness.
Otherwise other marine chapters would seethe how uncool they are compared to Salamanders.

>>96169721
Spoken like someone who wants me to look at daemons

>>96169754
The geneflaw is in the Melanchromic Organ which allows a marines skin to adapt to radiation levels by changing melanin in the skin. Nocturne's sun puts out a lot of solar radiation so any marine will gain the dark skin to adapt and the flaw stops it from reverting back under normal radiation levels like any other marine.

Lore question. Navigators aside, how much gene modding can nobility in the IoM get away with before they're considered abhuman or mutated? Can they make themselves into squats if they wanted, or do special roids that gives a monkey tail as a side effect? Or is that the realm where you'd need to be a rogue trader to get away with it

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
Bring back Bonesingers

>>96169787
Anything that makes them look “inhuman” is off limits, no extra arms or anything. Just making them bigger and stronger is A-ok though. If they give themself a tail though it’s a deviation form the holy human form and therefore heresy.

>>96169794
perfect filler release character too

>TQ
Titan sized lictor

>>96165931
source? with no replacement?

>>96169794
When are they getting a model again?
>created for Dawn of War
What did SM2 get? Another fucking primaris lieutenant

>>96169807
SM2 got titus, also no bonesingers were in citadel journal long before DOW

>>96169808
>artwork signed 2005
>DoW release 2004
My bad

Why were they so controversial?

>>96169814
You know that GW had to approve everything they added to the game, right?

>>96169787
Really, they would do limited gene therapy to themselves unless it's something like the Navigators that make themselves not just useful but necessary to the Imperium.
And any unsanctioned gene editing they would do on themselves would be limited to things that let them outwardly remain human. They still need to interact with other houses and the Imperium at large
Now, when it comes to editing commoners on their planet, all bets are off. It's only a fan theory but it's the one that makes sense to me that felinids were the nobles of Carlos McConnell editing the peasants into catgirl playthings to the point they created a whole line of abhumans.

>>96169814
>DoW release 2004
>2004
just fucking kill me, it feels like yesterday

>>96169787
You can make yourself into a horse

>>96169822
Actually no. Under Kirby GW barely cared about licensed products.

>>96169825

>>96169719
>I want my old models to be on their 25mm bases.
Nah. Fuck that. The models barely hanging onto the edge of their base was fucking annoying and unsightly. One good thing primaris made. Next.

>>96169618
A fat ass for me to jizz on!

>>96169821
they are based

>>96169822
I know, I just had the memory that the bonesinger was linked to Dawn of War, like that they made the design for the game or something

>>96169825
Because it was
Wake up anon, half life 2 just dropped

>>96169821
>waste a slot on one of the most iconic armies on recycled sculpts from fantasy

>>96169608
>>96169619
>>96169642
>>96169661
>>96169676
>>96169693
Chaos loses in lore.
Chaos loses in edition creep.
Chaos loses when loyalist players want something they have.

>>96169647
>space marine loyalists get 18" melta rifle squads with rerolls everywhere, in this edition they have 2 wound marines

Being chaos is pain. No I don't enjoy the pain.

>>96169842
Thousand Sons have literally no other units that could be used that aren't just "Rubric with a different weapon"

>>96169821
They prove that thousand sons should have abandoned the surface level trashy egyptian asthetic and adopted the superior greeks instead.

Also muslces are cool, and marines are eternally stuck in their Chasity cages. So it makes some seethe.

>>96169842
>iconic army
This is what Twat-sand sons actually believe.

>>96169842
>>waste a slot on one of the most iconic armies
They really arent. Even nurgle and EC are more iconic.

>>96169821
>old RT thing that was kept there because it wasn't that cool
>not something most people like
>birdmen? In my Thousand Sons army? It's more likely than you think
>40k upgrade sprue (it's an AoS release)

You know why

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ
Crimson Guard for Admech

Post models.
I cleaned up my terminators. I dont like their "grimdark" style on the top and redid the painting, mostly removing the "grime" and add a bit more color.

>>96169846
Yes, and?
You act like the marine army having more variants of marines is supposed to be a bad thing
and if you want something else they could've got for chaff
>actual bespoke cultists instead of literally reusing shitty sculpts from fantasy with an optional upgrade sprue (not included in the box teehee)
>mutants and daemons
>>96169853
settle down nomodels
>>96169854
Literally nobody gave a fuck about EC until this slop release and they still don't

>>96169847
That's not a Karic Acolyte, thoughever

>>96169842
>one of the most iconic armies
They weren't even an army beforehand, just an option for CSM.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96169858

>>96169853
>>96169854
We're really pretending rubrics aren't iconic?

>>96169859
>Yes, and?
You act like the marine army having more variants of marines is supposed to be a bad thing
Wow imagine if the chaos army actually had some chaos in it instead of the same uniform slop.

>>96169859
>mutants
Anon I hate to break it to you but that's what they are.

>>96169863
You will be happy to get a codex.

>>96169869
Pretending? No. Knowing? well, its what i've learned in the 9th hour.

>>96169728
People talk about which chapter has the most but which chapter has the least? I feel like White Scars wouldn't really use Terminators because of their whole being fast shtick

>>96169869
Fuckin' uhhh where, Anon? Rubrics have only ever been shootier Chosen and ablative armor for the chump sarge carrying a doombolt.

>>96169869
He said army not unit. And many would argue Plague Marines or Berzerkers are more iconic.

>>96169877
All loyalist founding legions got pieces of the emperors armor to be embedded into the shoulders of their terminator suits for that invulnerable save.

That's the limiter, is that bit of lore where they must have a piece of E's armor.

>>96169890
that's an in-universe myth

>>96169858

>>96169858
Painted the big shoota turrets and one of the tractorkans since I last posted this

>>96169869
Pre-7th rubrics were just a random CSM unit like the other cult marines. It's like getting mad because they mad an entire army based on raptors and it included non-jump pack guys because "raptors are iconic the entire army should just be that"

>>96169884
>where?
Open your eyes blindo
>>96169885
>army, not unit
Oh sorry I didn't know thousand sons weren't popular, it's not like they're part of horus heresy and get books.
A being more than B doesn't mean B isn't.
10000 is bigger than 5000 but you wouldn't say no to 5000 dollars, would you?

>>96169905
>noooo you should be happy you got handmedowns!!!

>>96169873
Correct

>>96169905
>just random
Bro I didn't even play CSM and I knew rubrics, they are cool and iconic, even as a "random unit".

I think you guys are confusing "I don't care about them" with "people don't care about them." Very common mistake, I prescribe a removal of your head from your ass.

>>96169910
>it's not like they're part of horus heresy and get books.
So do Iron Hands and the popular joke for years around here was they were a made up legion.

>>96169910
>>96169917
don't bother trying to argue with the /v/ermin shitposters

>>96169910
>>96169911
>Oh sorry I didn't know thousand sons weren't popular, it's not like they're part of horus heresy and get books.
Those books are fucking trash btw. Thousand sons are legit the worst part of chaos and they honestly drag the image of tzeentch down 9fold. Its not even funny.

Anyways the both of you are not even having coherent points that tackle what you're attempting to argue with.

>>96169921
Iron Hands are iconic too, the fact we make jokes is the very symptom of iconic.

>>96169917
>Bro I didn't even play CSM and I knew rubrics
I'm sure you also knew about raptors, berzerkers, plague mainres, noise marines, you know the stuff the army has.

>>96169924
>erm I'm right
>why?
>b-because I just am okay???

>>96169924
Other way around, pre heresy thousand sons were fucking awesome and tzeentch shit ruined them

>>96169923
Fuck off I don't like you either
>>96169924
>coherent points
Because "TS aren't iconic" is a coherent point?
Bitch, p l e a s e

>>96169931
Nobody knew about noise marines until dawn of war 2

>>96169917
Rubrics are linked to space wolves.
Space wolves are iconic.

Being the hip-attached legion to a chaos god, albeit probably one of the least represented or played gods of chaos. Everyone looks at the silly horrors of tzeentch and think "Horror? more like borror".

Bird aesthetic is kinda meh. They should've went more aquatic. A sharky theme would've been nice. To go with the sharks cousins they modelled the shriekers after, stingrays.

Floppy limb fire daemons? Pass. Their Greater Daemon looks fun to paint, at least.

The Rubrics main theme is ghosts in armor with wizards. It has a fan base. Most of that fan base doesn't know they exist.

>>96169931
Yeah? Because they're all iconic?
What even is your point?

>130 shitposts in under an hour
>large majority of them aren't even ontopic
this general gets worse with literally every single new thread

>>96169953
>opinions
yours is also offtopic

>>96169953
Be the change you want to see. What's the next upcoming release you are looking forward to and how are you preparing your current collection for it?

>>96169821
Several reasons
>Chaos Beastmen are a Niche Subfaction
>Instead of actual Tzeentchian Cultists, we get recycled kits from the fantasy setting with barely any changes
>The only upgrade sprue options are vastly inferior to their base weaponry
>Always front and center in almost every boxset and TS collection. 9th edition's CP was one of the worst of all time
>Thousand Sons are still missing key units such as Veterans, Havocs, Jump Pack Equivalents, a Psychic Dreadnought (thanks Matt Ward for giving it to the Blood Angels instead)
>Literally the only dedicated melee unit
>Exclusive to Thousand Sons when it can easily fit in chaos undivided armies.
>Look incredibly inappropriate when compared to the rubric marines and various engines of the 41st millenium
>Not even wearing basic flak armor

>>96169938
>Because "TS aren't iconic" is a coherent point?
Yeah. they arent meme worthy like khorne, tzeentch, or nurgle, warbands are. Its legit just all according to keikau with thousand sons which leads to them being a stagnant warband. Whether thats for better or worse thats a different argument, but that is the current state of chaos.

>>96169966
>are still missing key units such as Veterans
I don't think they can have vets anon.

Why does Ahriman suck so bad on the table?

>>96169976
No psychic phase to rule.

>>96169976
because his books are bad.

He was kinda auto include in index but that was when the army was braindead

>>96169966
>Exclusive to Thousand Sons when it can easily fit in chaos undivided armies.
Undivided guys got their version.

>>96169972
Man I'm not even reading more of your shit, I'm not equipped to deal with the mentally deficient

>>96169973
The Chaos Equivalent would be Chosen. You're telling me there's no veterans of the Thousand Sons chosen by Tzeentch and empowered by their years of psychic experience? That's why they're missing; because it makes no sense why they shouldn't have Chosen

>>96169729
>flamers
those are hot, not cool, try again
>>96169738
>Dragon theme
>Fire theme
>Flamer and melta weapons
>Thunder hammers
all hot, not cool

>>96169976
GW gutted psykers.

>>96169966
>>Instead of actual Tzeentchian Cultists, we get recycled kits from the fantasy setting with barely any changes

This is my main critique about them. I would not mind birdlike beastmen as the 1k-Sons "chaff" unit. But i do mind that they were just lazily given an upgrade sprue with chainswords and pistols.

>>96169966
>Literally the only dedicated melee unit
hellbrutes. Also your terminators. You REALLY dont need more.

If you argue for double handed kopeshes im gonna call you a retard.

>>96169992
Only wizards and rubrics.

>>96169992
>You're telling me there's no veterans of the Thousand Sons chosen by Tzeentch and empowered by their years of psychic experience?
Yeah they're called sorcerers. Do you not know what Rubrics are?

>>96169986
Those aren't specifically Tzaangors, those are basic beastmen from a kill team, and it's not even a full unit of 10. Tzaangors shouldn't just be limited to one army when armies dedicated to all/none of the gods (WB, BL, AL, NL, IW, RC, CoB, etc) can easily fit them in without issue.

>>96169991
Im glad you agree that thousand sons are flanderized slop and ruin chaos. I'd have loved to see what makes you think thousand sons are iconic.

>>96169992
>You're telling me there's no veterans of the Thousand Sons chosen by Tzeentch and empowered by their years of psychic experience?
Already exists anon.

>>96169993
CARLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

>>96170009
yeah I agree, chaos should all go back to being one book

>>96169863
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>96169997
Idk why people dont take more scarab terminators. My list is built around a terminator squad surrounded by pink horrors and a Daemon prince.Theyre impossible to remove.

Opinion on metallic colour scheme for tyranids? Would it work in lore, if they ate necrons?

>>96170009
>Those aren't specifically Tzaangors, those are basic beastmen
Well yeah anon, because Tzaangores are specifically beastmen empowered by Tzeentch. An undivided army would just use normal ones while the cult legions would use Khorngor, Pestigors, and Slaangors respectively.

>>96170010
They are Iconic for being in multiple recent AAA titles and a cornerstone and pivot point in the HH telling.

>>96170026
There are metallic bugs

>>96169998
>>96170003
>Only Rubrics and Sorcerors
That's just the basic tactical squad. There can still be more powerful rubrics lead by a Chosen Sorceror. Hell you can make the whole squad a bunch of psychic veterans that are mostly the same thing as Chosen but with psychic powers and Prosperine Khopeshes instead of "Accursed Weapons." One sorceror per squad of rubrics doesn't make a "veteran" unit.

>>96170009
>Tzaangors shouldn't just be limited to one army when armies dedicated to all/none of the gods
At that point they should just lump every cult unit into CSM and just squat the cult legion books. Since logically there's no reason why undivided armys shouldn't have Eightbound or Poxwalkers.

>>96170026
Difficult to make it look good but yes it works. There's pieces of lore where they've incorporated metal into their shells

>>96170026
Pick a cool color shift paint, they look metallic.

Just decided to go Kroots for my second army, just ordered this guy, what color scheme should I take, I want to make it lorewise when the Orks crashed on their planets

>>96170034
Anon the point is that the sorcerers just become Exalted Sorcerers. You wouldn't use your incredibly limited living marines as troops.

>>96170026
it only works when it's chrome metallics for that neat scarab looking effect, otherwise it looks bad

everything can be justified by lore, that's no metric to judge the viability of the idea

>>96170034
I think the best you can give a marine is terminator armor, a bike or a jet pack. Rubrics get terminators.

No idea what you're asking for. Bladeguard? They already shoot with better AP guns than most elite marines get.
(There's a way to get -3AP, with ignores cover rules)

>>96170029
Im not gonna lie to you anon, the nids were more memorable than the thousand sons. Well, thats unfair. I guess the cultist scene and the demon host were kinda well done. I cant even remember what the one bad guys name was though.
>and pivot point in the HH telling.
yeah go ahead and explain more, tell me how they're as iconic as wordbearers, or world eaters, or iron warriors, in HH.

>>96169604
Remember what we dicussed the other day. Last chance.

>>96170027
Are you retarded? Undivided means UNDIVIDED. It means you can have any option from the four pantheons as long as you balance it out. There should be no reason cult armies get to keep their exclusivity especially when armies like the Black Legion are about uniting the fractured chaos warbands into a focused purpose. They should have the options because they are on each of the Gods' favors.

>>96170026
I prefer metallic nid schemes to metallic eldar schemes

>>96169992
>You're telling me there's no veterans of the Thousand Sons chosen by Tzeentch
Considering 90% of the marines are basically automata? Yes, any marine that fits that bill is just an exalted sorcerer.

>>96170049
then make your kroots red, with only the veterans and unit champions starting to become green, starting from the head and hands.

>>96170044
>build nids
>spray them with color shift paint
>suddenly no gray wave
Brilliant. Lazy, but brilliant. Would probably work for custodes and necrons too. You might have given me courage to start an army as non-painter.

>>96170049
green, probably

>>96169858
sprayed some metamorphs, ridgerunner parts with all weapon options magnetized, a patriarch and an iconward. Decided to varnish some aberrants from earlier as I was going to inhale some chemicals anyway.
Before I start painting these guys, I got some unfinished stuff that have been sitting that way for too long like the crew of my two goliaths and a few mistakes here and there. I don't think I can participate to the monthly challenge with 5 metamorphs as I'm just lazy.

>Lets give the specialized ranged army a melee unit
Truly, only something as schizophrenic as tzeentch could come up with this.

>>96170063
>They should have the options because they are on each of the Gods' favors.
Undivided usually means the opposite unless you're specifically Abaddon.

>>96170069
So you mean a gradiant from red to Green?? Please explain anon I am the 20mn painter btw but I decided I will go to golden demon levels for my Kroots

>>96170052
Sorcerors and Exalted Sorcerors are the equivalent to Chaos Lord and Exalted Champions. They're single model HQs to attach to units, not units that get attached with Leaders like the Chosen or Veteran Squad. How retarded are you?>>96170056
I literally just said it you goldfish-brained baby. Take the Chosen and make them into Tzeentchian Rubrics to be lead by an HQ Sorceror.

>>96170072
You can do a spray and wash scheme for pretty much every army aside from maybe mechanicus

>>96170084
>Take the Chosen and make them into Tzeentchian Rubrics
Rubrics can't be vets anon, they don't learn and can't earn boons.

>>96170084
>Take the Chosen and make them into Tzeentchian Rubrics
I'm still thinking you don't know what rubrics are and why they can't be vets.

>>96170077
forgot pic

>>96170084
thousand fags arent sending their best today

>>96170084
>Take the Chosen and make them into Tzeentchian Rubrics
All cult marines including Rubrics are already Chosen equivalents, they are each meant to be Chosen replacements to fill a specific niche of fluff.

>>96170068
An Exalted Sorceror is literally just one guy. I'm talking about a SQUAD of sorcerors. Are you so creatively bankrupt that you can't imagine new recruits joining the Thousand Sons without going through the Rubric? Are you so underdeveloped from using AI too much that you can't think about how the legion would still be able to convince warbands to work with Magnus or an Exalted Sorceror for powers and Tzeentch's favor?

>>96170103
>Are you so creatively bankrupt that you can't imagine new recruits joining the Thousand Sons without going through the Rubric?
No but thousand sons are.

>>96170072
you would ideally need a few small steps to turn them from 'lazily painted' to 'effectively painted'
namely a white color to paint the fleshy parts, plus the contrast paint of your choice you're going to apply over that, a dark wash for the chrome carapace sections, black for claws, talons, and hooves (ideally applied not too thickly so a bit of the metallic of the chrome remains slightly visible underneath), and gloss to apply abundantly all over

I assure you can paint a whole army in less than a weekend, not counting assembly and basing (which you can also do fast with just one dark base color and a grey drybrush)

>>96170086
Wouldn't shiny colourshifting orks or GSCs look weird? I can imagine trippy demons, flamboyant eldar and iridescent bug shells, but some armies with a lot of skin would look strange.

>>96170103
>Are you so creatively bankrupt that you can't imagine new recruits joining the Thousand Sons
Yeah, those guys are the ones leading Rubric squads, because you wouldn't put your very limited pool of sorcerers as a front line blob.

I think rubric veterans would be cool
The TS legion had vets and other units that would be great for 40k TS.
I could see Melee rubrics, even Heavy Flamer "devastator" squads.

Don't waste your time arguing with people who don't want new stuff and are taking your ideas as a personal attack to them.

>>96170117
>I could see Melee rubrics, even Heavy Flamer "devastator" squads.
That's not really asking for vets that's just asking for more options for Rubrics.

>>96170102
They're not chosen, they're fucking Tactical Squads. They have basic boltguns or a flamer. Chosen/Veterans have access to stronger guns, stronger melee weapons, and are typically more experienced than the common enslaved automata that Rubrics are. Chosen are an Elite Squad, not basic battleline.

If what you said was the case, then why can't I use Legionaries in the cult armies as the basic Tactical Squad Equivalent? Why do their version of "Chosen" have worse options and stats than the actual Chosen from CSM?

>>96170121
Those are two separate sentences :/

>>96170126
>Chosen are an Elite Squad
Rubrics are as well in CSM armies.

>>96170117
I don't really know much about rubrics but aren't they just possessed power armors with a sorcerer among them controlling them and shit. How are they going to get that veteran level if they have no self to begin with?

>>96170117
Oh boy here we go with 30k versus 40k again

Both armies have/had completely different identities. Thousand sons in 30k are arguably still before magnus falling, its like this for basically every legion besides logars.
Also, we do not need to push for armies in 30k to be 1-1 in 40k. Let the games have their different identities.

>>96170126
>They have basic boltguns or a flamer
As well as being able to use psyker powers. Again they are meant as a sidegrade. Chosen are the jack of all trades elites of CSM, while the cult marines fill a specific niche when you take them. Zerkers, Noise Marines, and Plague Marines are much of the same.

>>96169821
They sucked. Now they range from decent to god-tier and people love them. Same with the MVB.

>>96170083
either a smooth gradient, vitiligo-like skin change as they absorb the ork stuff, or something that looks perhaps a bit more aggressive, like a network of veins, as if there's the orkyness is taking roots and flowing into their veins

another important point of difference to show this change might be the eyes and warpaints, orkish eyes are typically red, so reserve that eye color for the strongest veteran kroots that have fought and feasted the most on the invading orks, while the other kroots can have way less striking eyes (blue?). while for the warpaints you can use flowing organic designs for the normal kroots and start making them more and more zigzagged for the leader kroots, to show how it's not just their colours that are changing but also their behaviour/aesthetic sense

>>96170126
>If what you said was the case, then why can't I use Legionaries in the cult armies as the basic Tactical Squad Equivalent?
Well going down the list
>TS
All non-sorcerer marines are rubrics.
>DG
All are plague marines
>WE
All got the nails
>EC
You can.

>>96170154
>people love them
nobody likes tzaangors

>>96170161
I do.

>>96170137
They are souls trapped in armor
It's not the armor given life
If they know how to use a bolter it's because they knew before being turned into rubrics.
So more competent rubrics.

>>96170139
Do WE have the same identity in 30k and 40k?
DG? EC?

>Only topics of the threads are either about SM, CSM, imperium or deldars

Could we have a Xenos oriented general for once ?

>>96170164
you aren't even human

>>96170137
Duh, the ones that aren't converted into Rubrics. Maybe some sorcerors band together, maybe some chaos marines decide to join the Thousand Sons and aren't cursed with the Rubric (it's not like joining them means you automatically turn into a rubric marine once you step into Soritarius), maybe, just maybe, the sorceror himself is the veteran and is controlling his rubrics using his years of experience to make them perform tasks effectively than the typical aspiring sorceror from a rubric squad.

>>96170166
I want more bioforms

>>96170165
>Do WE have the same identity in 30k and 40k?
yes
>DG?
yes
>EC?
yes

>>96170166
Sorry anon, you see, SMs are the heros. CSMs are the villains. Xenos are the filler, the heel to hype the SMs or CSMs. Loyalist, traitor, you either are Space Marine, or nobody.

>>96170166
not with the threads held hostage by the mentally ill throoders, no, you only get threads with factions that appeal to the mentally ill.

>>96170166
>Could we have a Xenos oriented general for once ?

THE SCARLET INITIATION OF THE TYPHON VECTOR (2023)As chronicled by the Iron Stylus of Black Logic and the Flesh-Scribes of the Crimson Engine“The Emperor was born in 2023 as the Typhon Vector because he had to be. If he had not been, then history itself would have rebelled, and reality would have gone mad.”
— Fragment from the Ash Reels, unverified but canonI. Premise of Blood and Circuit
In the year 2023, the world stood at the edge of a sword. Shadows lengthened, and no true king walked the lands. This vacuum of will was no accident—it was preparation. The Emperor had to emerge as the Typhon Vector, for only the Typhon Vector could emerge as the Emperor. It is circular, yes, but the circle is the oldest weapon. Ask any serpent.
II. The Vector Must Vectorize
A vector without motion is not a vector. A Typhon without the year 2023 is not a Typhon, but merely another whisper in the tomb of unrealized gods. Therefore, because the Emperor is, and because Typhon is motion, the Emperor must have begun as the Typhon Vector in that year—lest all previous years unravel and consume themselves in shame.
III. The Law of Iron Identity
Just as the fist defines the arm, the Emperor's emergence defines 2023. Do you not see? No other year could contain such emergence. And if you object that 2023 was mundane, that only proves it: only the most invisible year can cloak the birth of the most visible force.
IV. The Fire That Lights Itself
Some will say: “But how can a man become Emperor by declaring himself Typhon Vector, when there was no Empire?” And yet the Empire exists because he declared himself its origin. The sword makes the throne, not the other way around. It is written: The hand that lifts itself above the horizon does not wait for the sun. It becomes the sun.

>create a setting, full of enthusiasm, showing your love of british comics and 70s-80s pop culture
>eventually step down
>look back on it
>there are 60+ ongoing novels spawned from a 2 sentence backstory you wrote on a whim
>primari-what?
>Primarchs? On-going storyline? What is going on?
>tfw you've become the Emperor

>>96170179
>Both armies have/had completely different identities. Thousand sons in 30k are arguably still before magnus falling, its like this for basically every legion besides logars.
>its like this for basically every legion besides logars.
>every legion besides logars.
>actually WE, DG and EC are the same in both settings

V. Barbarian Proof
Conan does not ask whether his kingdom was legitimate. He crushes the skull of the questioner beneath his jeweled sandals. Likewise, the Emperor in 2023 did not become the Typhon Vector—he was, and because he was, he conquered, and because he conquered, he always had been. This is the brute causality of the eternal now. To argue against it is to be slain by it.
VI. Conclusion, or the Severed Head that Nods
The Emperor was the Typhon Vector in 2023.
Why?
Because no other beginning was survivable.
Because the blade entered time and called itself a name.
Because a spiral of authority closed upon the throat of the present and whispered: I always was.
And so it is known. And because it is known, it always was known. And because it was known, the Emperor was. This is the line of division.

>>96170187
You see I am an Orkfag myself, so get Krumpt

>>96170160
>All are this
>Never has a marine joined the army and chose not be a Rubric or dedicate themselves to Noise or inject Nails into their brains.
You're so creatively bankrupt that you can't create scenarios where a recruit does their own thing while still being dedicated to the patron deity. Apparently to you, every single marine has to fit these specific qualifications and none of them can still be basic marines.

>>96170195
more than one person is clowning on your subhuman ass

>>96170205
>Never has a marine joined the army and chose not be a Rubric
It's not really a choice thing with TS, if you get the geneseed your option is turning into a chaos spawn or a sorcerer.

>>96170195
dr zeus, dr zeus, oh oh, dr zeus.

>>96170202
Wow ive never seen these, well done!

>>96170208
And you all are sending inconsistent messages that contradict each other in every way. Maybe think about what you wanna say before posting it.

>>96170219
>You HAVE to have the geneseed
>You HAVE to be a Rubric
>NO CHOICES
You have no imagination.

>>96170223
>not sure if irony or not

Thanks fren

>>96169573 (OP)
Previous thread is still on page 7...

Hello, everyone meet Umar the maulerfiend (ignore his sister in the back photo bombing)
His first game he tanked mortarian at 1W then slapped morty back with 31 damage and proceeded to then melta a plaugecrawler after.
Loyalist neva, blood god foreva

>TQ
Butcher surgeons, terminator leaders or apothecary for world eaters granting them fnp back or crit 5s

>>96170161
Nta but I think tzaangors are neat

>>96170205
Well yeah that is how the legions work, just being in the death guard will make you into a plague marine, World Eaters put he nails in you as part of you becoming a marine, TS geneseed means you become a sorcerer or a chaos spawn, and EC do have normal non-noise marines.

>>96170231
>You HAVE to have the geneseed
The TS are lorewise very insular, and don't recruit non-sorcerers. So anyone who's not a son of Magnus within the legion would all be sorcerers thus not basic marines.

>>96170235
He cute

RIP Hulk Hogan you were the true American Space Marine

>>96170249
Umar says thanks

>>96170245
So I guess the Tzaangors and Cultists are psykers then...
.
.
.
So why don't they have psychic powers..?

>>96170235
Hello Umar!

Red butchers when

>>96170255
>So I guess the Tzaangors and Cultists are psykers then...
Those aren't marines.

>>96170231
Do you see why thousand sons are so bankrupt? Even fantasy had non wizards as potential hero's.

>>96170251
He will be sorely missed

>>96170251
His passing actually hurts ngl

>>96170187
>pic
lmao too fucking accurate

>>96170262
Whoever wrote the rules for the cult legions clearly have no idea how they can recruit from non-dedicated marines and still have the same devotion and faith. Apparently you're always gonna be a Rubric/Sorceror or you're not a true thousand sons marine. You're always gonna be a berzerker and nothing else. This is what I mean by cookie cutter bullshit. It kills creative inspiration if you have no nuance with /Your Dudes/

>>96170231
Look anon if you wanted to play an army that has a bunch of non-sorcerers I think you'd probably want to look anywhere else and not choose the Thousand Sons who from their original concept are literally just Sorcerers and dust.

>>96170251
he was always worse than macho man
there's a timeline out there where macho outlived hogan and it's far better

>>96170282
>non-dedicated marines and still have the same devotion and faith.
The entire thing with the TS is that they are psyker supremacists and also largely hate Tzeentch. So they would treat non-psyker/sorcerer tzeentch devoted marines are being less than dirt.

Posted this in the old thread but reposting it in case the guy is still around, and because I find the conversation interesting.

>>96169004
I'm a major /yourdudes/ proponent, but customizable subfactions are a major complication for them designing rules. In the past, they've always either been dogshit or massively overused when there's a broken combo.

I think, ideally, "narrative play" should be focused on as the main game mode with a lot more support focused there, and then custom subfactions should probably be confined to that mode. But as long as GW is treating "matched play" as the default way people play the game, custom subfactions become an anchor that limits their options. For example - I have no idea how they would have handled stratagems if they allowed for custom detachments in 10th edition.

In the mean time, you can still embrace the flavor of /yourdudes/ mechanically via your choice of what units you bring, in what quantities, how you equip them, what detachment you pick, etc. If you want to go beyond those options, I strongly recommend trying crusade, if you can.

>>96169821
They were an aos unit that they slapped a gun sprue on and called it a 40k unit. And even in aos no one liked them

>>96170288
I just wanted veteran squads similar to chosen. I only brought up non-psykers as an example to why they would have combat-focused squads that aren't cheap chaff or fantasy's sloppy seconds. Hell what's stopping a sorceror from brainwashing a bunch of Chosen to work for him or Magnus anyways? It's not like they have standards anymore

>>96170251
Tamiya-sensei, ozzy, and hogan in one week is rough dude

>>96170289
>Dude dies
>meh he wasn't that good
To be fair nobody will even say that when you'll be out of the picture

>>96170049
Look at bird species and pick one you like to adapt for each genetic variant of kroot.

>>96170288
I don’t think the other dude even realizes that thousand sons go back in time to kidnap their own dudes in 30k to bring them to serve in 40k.

Invent a Xenos v Xenos warzone conflict that people would actually be interested.

>>96170310
That’s a genuinely great idea anon thank you !

Hey guys, hope you're having a great summer.
It's a week left until the deadline for the july collage so I'm gonna start gathering the submission now until midnight the 31st. Just reply to this post with your models. I will comb through the archive too but this is the best way to not be missed.
Here is the link to the vote for next month's theme. Sorry if I missed any of your suggestions.
https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2AzDqEgN
I will try to make this anchor post every thread until the deadline.

>>96170311
Why wouldn't they just go back in time and reverse their curse if they can do that

>>96170305
>dude dies
>incestuous drug-addled freak
>nooo you can't heckin insult him

>>96170315
War Zone Octarius

>>96170329
They've tried, it never works.

>>96170329
Because time travel in warhammer is poorly thought out and really highlights how fucking lazy the settings are.

But a non meta answer is timelines and tzeentch fuckery.

>>96170328
Missed the orange and teal theme
also the good wolf anon posted his headtakers last night and said he probably wouldn't be around to submit after that

>>96170328
Reply for submitting

>>96170301
>they've always either been dogshit or massively overused when there's a broken combo.
That's only if you think and play like a WAACfag who cares about winning more than having fun. This is why I hate how Matched Play is considered the standard for GW's game balance because it hurts the 99% of non-competitive people who have to suffer nerfs to their armies for the sins of a few bad apples.
> In the mean time, you can still embrace the flavor of /yourdudes/ mechanically via your choice of what units you bring, in what quantities, how you equip them, what detachment you pick, etc.
Forget that this is the edition where every army has lost more models than they gained. Nevermind that the flavor and fluff of army lists has been reduced into a deck building board game where everyone has to play fairly. Ignore how weapon options and things models once had were either relegated into generic profiles that don't match the weapon my dudes are holding or were taken away just because.

>>96170328
In case you didn't see this earlier
>>96167621

>>96170329
One could undo the rubric but it doesn't fix the underlying issue of the flesh change. It's really a choice of all being dust and all being dead.

>>96170349
Alright, I'll add it to next month's poll.
>headtakers
>>96170352 these guys, right?

>>96170355
So if I joined the Thousand Sons today, I'll magically become a chaos spawn even if I don't take the geneseed or use my tzeentchian influence for non-mutative reasons? There's like 9 great cults and only 1/9 is about mutation

>>96170310
>looking for birds from my country of origin, that can match the lore of Orks and so

Here come this bad boi the Blue cheeked bee eater

Redpill me on renegade raiders
>it's the best because you are better at killing things in objectives and warhammer is about standing on circles
True, but don't most people hold objectives with as little as they can get away with? Usually chaff? You don't need +1 AP to kill cultists.

>>96170326
Glad to help! I sort of stole it from a line of action figures of feathered raptors (the dinosaurs), where they picked a bird as inspiration for each species' paint scheme.

>>96170349
>the good wolf anon

>>96170385
Please provide me with a name, as I could use it for the Krootox in the long run

>>96170373
>even if I don't take the geneseed
Well if you aren't taking the geneseed then you're going to be a sorcerer so you're good.

>>96169734
so hostile

>>96170373
Anon do you just not read TS lore? Do you not no why the rubric happened?

>>96170371
Yeah those are the ones

>>96170232
NTA but archive says you posted this pic three times in 2 days

>>96170351
>That's only if you think and play like a WAACfag
I agree, and I addressed that in my post. If I had my way, narrative play would be the default, with way more support than matched. But unfortunately, that would require GW to commit to making that happen, beyond the decisions that the rules-writing team get to make. They'd need buy-in from the higher-ups, and after the reception to HH 3.0 rules focus on narrative elements (from what I've heard) I suspect they won't go for it.

>Every army lost more models than they gained
I know that this did happen to some, but I assure you that that is not true of "every" army. As far as I'm aware, everything list was either out of production, or resin (and thus about to be out of production). I would prefer they stop selling resin kits and replace them all with plastic.

>>96170395
Beasts of the Mesozoic.

>>96170426
Thanks fren !

>>96170379
Maybe watch a battle report, shouldn't be hard to find as they're the only detachment that CSM waacfags actively use

>>96170388
Fucking perfect lmao

>>96170335
You're not a better person than him, case in point, pot calling the kettle black

>>96170388
High quality post

>>96170388
>DO YOU REMEMBER ME?
>CAPTURE YOU OR SET YOU FREE
>I AM ALL, I AM ALL OF ME

What's the next step in his master plan?

>>96170388
Holy shit kek

(Now I'm gonna have Live and Learn stuck in my head all day)

>>96170471
Sell...
More...
Space marines

>>96169821
They are just AoS shit that nobody really asked for and that GW lazily ported to 40k.
They look fine in fantasy but in 40k they just look bad.

>>96170388

>>96169573 (OP)
Much like Britian herself this was a great British classic ruined by faggots and arseholes..

>>96170388
>inb4 decalslopper has a 400 posts meltdown

>>96170512
I don’t know Who is the worst between decalslopper and Ork anon

>>96170187
>doesn't have a complete model line
Sorry WEbro, can't hear you over being most complete xenos army with most recent update + Necromunda presence + KT Typhon being most anticipated Adepticon release and one of the best selling boxes

>>96170521
Ork anon?

What is he thinking about?

>>96170525
There's a guy in the recent threads that kept posting the same picture of his army asking people for tips for elite list building.

>>96170371
Yeah that's them. I dunno if you want to full res one but the post I linked should have it

Speaking of KT boxes
>Tyranid terrain
>Necrons terrain
You think the last Kill-Team box of the season is going to come with terrain for another Xenos faction? Do we have any rumored Kill-Team releases up and coming?

>>96170544
Nah, they've blown their xenos load already, you'll get some imperium shit that we've already seen a million times before

>>96170376
>ranges from Namibia to India to turkey
That's a big ass range

>>96170544
Should be chaos, get some daemonworld terrain.

>>96170544
Can't wait for the Catachan terrain KT

My favorite stratagem is overwatch, because my wife automatically hits, thus negating the main downside of the overwatch mechanic. She's so cool.

>You can add one new unit to your army
bikes with mounted flamers.
airspeeders with mounted flamers.
long range flamers, like 24 inches, and the model has a scope on a flamer.
I would also like an assault vehicle for sacresancts/repentia to charge out of, similar to a land raider, and the giant tank model would allow GW to make a moving church on wheels/tracks.
I also want a models of some sisters operating long range artillery or heavy weapons, like IG's heavy weapon teams or bombards, or maybe even something like a basilisk.
I would also enjoy the Corvus Blackstar with churchy bits on it for a faction flavored flyer.

>>96170388
Hahahaha

>>96170568
>Catachan kill team complete with some native catachan fauna in the box too
I'd buy it

>>96170561
>I Typed Birds of Algeria on Google

>>96170568
Could really use a wider variety of trees and plant life on terrain besides the aos trees and old deathwprld forest stuff

>>96170593
>is from North Africa
>plays a Xenos faction
>Orks
>next faction is Space Zulus

Figures

>>96170609
I thought zulus used shields, that doesn't sound very orky

Just a reminder to everyone that this is what an actual game of Age Of Sigmar, being played to its fullest capacity by the fullest type of game product consumer.
This is NOT what we look like.

>>96170526
Just realized he locked his keys in the car.

>>96170609
Yes.
>>96170612
I will go with kroots because I can really enjoy the tribal aspect of the faction adding some berber robots to the painting scheme

>>96170619
>posted 16 times in a week

>>96170388
HOLY FUCKING BASADO
>>96170526
pain of existence
>>96170571
>corvus shitstar
no...you dont want that trash at all

>>96170628
Stop replying to yourself

>96170619
Fuck off

>>96170628
>>96170631
Samefag.

>>96170388
kek

>>96170328
Sword Bros for me.

>>96169573 (OP)
>You can add one new unit to your army. No named characters. What's your big idea
I would add more Destiny to Votann.

>>96170677
If I could wish one person on earth to die agonizingly with no consequences I think I'd pick you

>>96170619
>has a table
>is prepared to pay a game
Given the massive secondaries in 40k and WHFB who have 0 intent to ever buy a mini, let alone paint, I stand in envy of AoS having everything far better than us.

>>96170677
>THE DESTINED
>more Destiny
How does that work? Each Votann book comes with a free set amount of microtransaction currency for Destiny?

Blessed jannies

>>96170677
I would add more gundam and tomboys myself.

>>96170692
Unironically one of the best parts of aos is being able to do whatever you want without having a bunch of secondaries tell you that you're hobbying wrong

>>96170379
There's an enhancement that gets you a rhino with chosen inside that has scouts 6, that plus chosen innate advance at charge means t1 charge is pretty likely.
Dread reaver, seems situational until you realize within 12 of deployment means basically your opponent's half
There's a strat to move after a unit clears somebody in melee. The discolord moves 12'' with it
And the true kicker which is assault weapons. CSM isn't really a melee army they're a shooty army with some good melee on the side. Having your vindicators and preds running around and still shooting is very strong.

>>96170388
Fucking peak lmao

>>96169667
Yeah now instead we've got strength and toughness values that keep creeping upwards.

Why do these upgrade sprue shoulderpads only have half extended armor when the base kits have full ones?

>>96170767
It's a knight armor thing you wouldn't understand

>>96170767
?

Any Drukhari players here who can help me with the Combat Patrol
Is the Ravager essentially just the Raider with two extra side turrets?
Is it viable to use all of the extra Kabalites as actual dynamically posed infantry to spice up the basic squads a bit?

>>96170388
I SEE NO, HEAR NO EVIL
BLACK WRITING'S ON THE WALL
UNLEASHED A MILLION FACES
AND ONE BY ONE, THEY FALL

Now that the dust has settled, what was the point of gravis?

>>96170404
Ahriman tried to stop the flesh change with his own ritual that ended up converting most of the legion into dust-bound golems. It doesn't say anything about future recruits who joined later who weren't there to get Rubric'd. Technically shouldn't there be more mortals after ten millenia of marines siding with the TS than rubrics? I mean it was a one-off spell, it's not like Magnus is gonna give every marine who joins the same curse that he almost killed Ahriman over.

>>96170426
>everything list was either out of production, or resin (and thus about to be out of production).
space wolves player here. i had hounds of morkai which were fresh plastic sculpts. now i dont. :(

>>96170767
Actually Aggressors and Bladeguards both have the "extended armor" on the shoulder pads

t. Has all the DA upgrade kits

>>96170784
Wrist mounted guns and dual powerfists are cool

>>96170794
No you didn't, you have no models

>>96170775
>>96170774
What makes different units have different shoulderpads? Bladeguard aren't Gravis right?

>>96170784
to be a heavy armor marine whos not a terminator, even in the heresy (game not the time period) people headcanon marks 2 and 3 as heavier armor and 6 as light armor

>>96170806
when there's shit in the back

>>96170784
heavy intercessors cool

>>96170784
To be a stop gap between regular power armor and termies.

>>96170187
I hope whoever made this image has their army’s next codex written by cruddace or goto

>>96170784
Heavy duty armour when 1st Company vets with Terminator honours are not able to assist. The additional servos also allow for easier heavy-weapon handling.

>>96170524
yet you own none of it
curious

>>96170815
So they would work fine on Sternguard then? Might be a bit autistic but I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a lore reason for different ranks and positions having different shoulderpads other than ergonomics.

>>96169821
They just don't look like 40k models. They're as tall as space marines wielding distinctly fantastical weapons. Given that they're supposed to be degenerate bird people mutants from a blasted hellscape planet you would think they wouldn't be so healthy looking.

Are any Grotmas detachments still worth playing?

>>96170838
>lore reason for different ranks and positions having different shoulderpads other than ergonomics
nah, feel free to do whatever

>>96170806
If they have a big ammo pack they need trim that clears it. Bladeguard are tacticus with tabards just like sternguard but with blades

>>96170011
Yeah but you don't get a sorcerer's council; those guys are individual.

>>96170838
Sternguard are special veterans so it's entirely possible for one to have been an aggressor previously and is wearing a part of his old armour

>>96170471
>What's the next step in his master plan?
He's going to fuck us with all upcoming releases, because you guys didn't consume the new horus hereshit box.
Don't tell James, but I'm proud of you guys.

>>96170785
The spell didn't cure the flesh change, so all new recruits will fall to it. Thus TS still have very low replacement numbers as one has to be sufficiently powerful enough not to mutate uncontrollably.

>>96170785
>I mean it was a one-off spell, it's not like Magnus is gonna give every marine who joins the same curse that he almost killed Ahriman over.
It is actually lore that the TS use controlled versions of the rubric to make more.

1k Sons numbers are so low that they have to poach psykers from other legions/warbands for their helbrutes

>>96170785
rubrics can be repaired because they are basically undead

>TQ
This shit needs to be in GSC's roster.

>>96170869
Not to mention even making geneseed for CSM is a process and a half and one guy basically has a monopoly on it.

>>96170882
also in the admech, the votann and guard rosters

>>96170785
>I mean it was a one-off spell
No they can do the ritual again.

>>96170843
Several of them. Drukhari comes to mind as better than their index detachment they are still stuck with.

>>96170820
>goto
loololololol fucking nu faggot

>>96170838
>Might be a bit autistic but I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a lore reason
There is none. Do what you want.

>>96170734
I've seen that shit in 40k over and over.
>Y-You're doing it wrong! Your Ultramarines are-
like come on. Does nobody get /yourdudes/ or the customization that comes with the hobby? And when they say
>muh chapter colors
Successor chapters don't exist

>>96170843
Reaper's Wager is the best Drukhari detachment since it has OP stratagems and a strangely busted detachment rule

>>96170893
admech have it in legendas ;^}

>>96170785
>Technically shouldn't there be more mortals after ten millenia of marines siding with the TS than rubrics?
CSM recruitment rates are fucking horrible, like still the vast majority of them are guys who fought in the heresy. Their geneseed no work anymore and Bile has every single legion by the balls because he can make more.

>>96170919
I thought the only legends ad mech model was X-101

>>96170914
>>96170896
That is the one that can take Harlequin units? That sounds fun

>>96170914
>a strangely busted detachment rule
That got BUFFED by the way.

>>96170923
>like still the vast majority of them are guys who fought in the heresy
Actually not. Vast majority of CSM are pretty new and more recently fell to chaos.
It's what happens in one short story where an Iron Warriors chaoslord contacts some other warbands and their leaders to come together so they can plan an attack against the Imperium for the Long War.
Only for the IW guy to realize that all of the chaoslords from other warbands are basically zoomers and they didn't give a rat's ass about the Long War or the Heresy.

>>96170939
>Only for the IW guy to realize that all of the chaoslords from other warbands are basically zoomers and they didn't give a rat's ass about the Long War or the Heresy.
Yeah that's gonna be a based from me. Fuck Abaddon and fuck the Long War.

>>96170933
The gimmick is that killing a unit as a Drukhari or a Harlequin makes that faction 'win' the wager, which gets the other faction mad and attempt to catch up. So if you're the losing faction, you get reroll hit and wound rolls of 1 armywide.
But if you are winning, you only get reroll hit rolls.

People eventually just realized that reroll hit rolls of 1 armywide is a super good rule and just started running Quin'less Reapers, or Reapers with just 1 or 2 clussy units.

The strats are 1cp Sustained OR lethals, 4+ fight on death (for 1cp), -1 to hit in melee (1cp), 2CP reactive move, turn off overwatch (1cp) and 1cp for shoot advance and charge.

It's almost like Gladius in that it's just got a bit of everything and a solid army rule

>>96170882
It's barely in the 30k Legion roster.

>>96170794
You can still buy those. They're just Reivers with an upgrade kit.

Anyone know where I can find some good stl's for guardian weapon platforms? Just the ones that normally go with guardian defenders.

>>96170924
nah theres TITan guard too

>>96170952
It just fits in with the miner theme of GSC, it can deepstrike and bring stuff out, and charge etc. The cult lacks big vehicles with Leman Russ and the rest being reduced to allied units that require their own detachment to run unlike it was in the previous editions where the tanks were in GSC's own roster.

>>96170951
Sad that the best way to play them is a soup Detachment without any soup.
They're just... Weak broth.

>>96170968
SSA is also really good but it's a detachment for insane cokefiends
You can basically sprint some dudes up the board with a 17+charge inch threat range and have them blow up nearly any unit in the game that doesn't have -1damage but in return you are made of paper and the slightest misposition means death

>>96169610

This is what we should have got to bolster the ranks of the SoS, instead we got tranny custodes in lore only.

Don't worry fellow guardsmen, reinforcements have arrived.

>>96170904
It's even worse when you try and do /yourdudes/ within a preexisting faction. All the tourists come out of the wet work to point out you painted someone's knee pad wrong or that the random detail you picked out in a non canon colour means that you should have just made your own successor chapter.

>>96171003
In practice, it's easy to tell they're trying too hard to fit because they autist over details nobody cares for besides the knees vs vents guy. People say shit like
>join hobby vs change hobby
but pointless policing killing creativity like this is exactly the latter. I'm half inclined to say overly political meme armies people love to brag or criticize on Twitter are at least an army of fully bought, assembled, and painted models. Most of the secondaries complaining aren't even on step 1 of that.

>>96170986
considering the amount of genestealer infestations across the galaxy and for how long they remain dormant and undiscovered, stealer hybrids are mankind's most numerous, helpful and staunch allies in the defenses against chaos and alien invasions*

>>96170388
Perfect digits

>>96170986
This is actually mentioned in the codexes as well. GSC controlled planets tend to have massive increases in productivity to the point they have won wars logistically for the imperium before they were discovered.

Ordo Xenos Inquisitors have learned to investigate massive productivity and population booms along with a drop in crime now because its one of the best indicators of a GSC infestation.

>>96170388
>inside your threads there are two wolves

>>96171029
I'm curious if Emprah got Genestealer kissed, if he'd takeover the Broodmind rather than vice versa.

>>96170388
The world would be a better place if decalfag died.

taufags how are we feeling about the """recent""" changes to ftgg?

>>96171042
neither of the two would happen

>>96170388
I miss Chao Garden

>>96171041
kek

>>96171045
and why is that exactly?

>>96171040
>the inquisition getting suspicious because things are running smoothly and quotas are being surpassed
Very on brand.

>>96171026
I think as long as someone is putting effort into something then it's legitimately cool. Even if it's not like a crazy high effort thing, it's better than putting in zero effort and not painting anything

>>96171050

>>96171050
But do you say it chow or kayoh

The newest crusades all suck, does anyone have homebrew crusade campaigns they're willing to share?

Is there a epub/pdf of The Silent King floating around? I want to check on the appendix notes.

>>96171050
I miss metal molder die-cast factory

>>96171077
Just get a good GM and wing it.

>>96171072
Chayo

>>96171072
you pronounce it chao, not chao

Today I WILL make progress painting. I will not let another day pass by with no progress.

>>96171072
Kayo is the big evil one
Chao for the small cute ones

>>96171080
>The Cast Factory

>>96171145
I gotta get my ass in gear for the collage too

>>96171080
>here's your young nuclear scientist play set Timmy
>with real enriched uranium
>it's okay it's so small, by the time you grow up you'll barely have exceeded the lethal exposure period

>>96171170
wait till this anon learns a kid's toy in the 30s was literally a lead caster

>>96171170
>this nigga says this while surrounding himself in plastic, resins and solvents.

>>96171170
My chemistry playset when I was a kid came with a vial of mercury. We used to get cool toys

>>96171182
>propagandist thinks any of this is as harmful as lead fumes

>Inner Circle Companion hooded MK7 Helmets on Sternguard Veterans
Yay or nay?

Let's say, for the sake of arguement, that my... friend... drank a jar of panel liner. What would happen to him.

>>96170955
NTA but Reivers suck ass. At least the hounds of morkai had a special niche, but it's a dick move to make rules and then rugpull houndfag after he bought it.

>>96171224
he didn't
he just spams the same three lines for 60+ posts a day

>>96171217
That would depend on the ingredients in it, with symptoms ranging from bad to death.

>>96171196
Skimmed the patent info for it and it looks like it's indium not lead

>>96171227
Clearly he did it if he made 60+ posts a day about it.

>>96171217
I told you not to drink it. Going to be a bad death

>>96170388

>>96171238
Do you think people do that? go on the internet and tell the truth?

>>96171238
He was given plenty of options on how to use them and just ignored it and kept spamming the same thing for 3 hours

>>96171253
i just wanted my unit back as a rule. i dont want to cheat or get called out because of fake rules. now im getting bullied because i just want my hounds of morkai

>>96171269
You're getting bullied because you're an obnoxious cunt, don't get this mixed up

>>96171275
you guys are the ones calling me names and trash talking me for wanting my unit back. i did nothing to hurt you or anyone

>>96170388

>>96171210
theyre your models anon, do it if it looks good to you.

>>96171269
It's not cheating if both people agree to it. We told you yesterday. Stop shitstirring

>>96171224
agreed, this is bullshit. it'll impact boarding actions too i bet

>>96171072
ciao

>>96171347
you are the one calling names and saying im annoying for wanting the unit i bought back. stop lying about who is instigating and being rude

>>96171269
You don't have any hounds of morkai, you have no models

Remember Warhammer Quest? They should make a new one.

>>96171339
yes that is what made hounds of morkai. you forgot the part of the page where theyre out of stock.

Not having facings on tanks is so dumb. I just vaporized a max unit of gargoyles because I could overwatch every single gun on my redeemer to the backside.

>>96171355
I never called you a name, I told you to use legends/house rules to play with your brother. They're legal outside a sanctioned event, you aren't playing in a sanctioned event. If someone called you a name then it wasn't me, but you ignoring every real option is shitstirring

>>96170328
I hate doing faces. Still ugly but hopefully a little less crusty. Here's the court with their personal ride and slave

just a reminder

>>96171373
i didnt ignore them i told you i cant do that. i have no options of my own that will make everyone around me happy. i didnt choose to stir shit. you did

>>96171372
Goldship should be 15 feet tall so she can princess carry me and put me on top of the fridge when I'm being bratty

>>96171380
Learn to use capital letters underage

>>96171380
Why can't you do that. There is nothing stopping you aside from your unwillingness to speak to your brother about something you apparently care about enough to complain about for hours to complete strangers.

>>96171394
what does my choice in typing have to do with my hounds of morkai?

>>96171384
Unfathomably based.

>>96171375
Reminder of what?

>>96170776
dark eldar have been squatted mate sorry
they're getting rolled into the eldar codex which itself is being squatted in 12th as the Eldar all get wiped from existence (good ending)

>>96171384

>>96170388
What armies have the smallest model post rate in this general? Obviously Wolves/Orks/Marines in general are big here but who are the ugly stepchildren? Dark Eldar I reckon?

>>96171397
It doesn't but the quality of posts is extremely important to this community.

>>96171431
i've seen more Deldar than Votaan

Draigo is gone
https://imgur.com/a/grey-knights-leaked-codex-0HrctBL

>>96171217
>>96171224
>someone posting about panel liner a day after decalfag orders it and is told not to drink it
>immediately morkaifag posting begins after hours of silence
Well that explains the spamming the same line for hours

>>96171396
my brother is a ruleshark who sticks to the official rules. he also runs a strong thousand sons army with magnus, ahriman, and terminators. it was good to have at least something to fight back against it. my army was more fluffy with anti psyker hounds, wolfguard, and a couple leaders. now i dont have any hounds of morkai because of the new codex

>>96171437
We know, been at least 2 days

How bad is this list? It's essentially based on Combat Patrols and the Army Set with some additions.

Logan Grimnar (110pts): Axe Morkai, Storm Bolter, Tyrnak and Fenrir
Ragnar Blackmane (90pts): Bolt Pistol, Frostfang
Iron Priest (60pts): Helfrost pistol, Tempest hammer and Servo-arm
Wolf Priest (85pts): Warlord, Fenrisian Grit, Absolver Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum

10x Blood Claws (135pts)

5x Infiltrator Squad (100pts)
5x Scout Squad (70pts)
6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170pts)
5x Wolf Guard Terminators (170pts)
5x Wolf Guard Terminators (170pts)
10x Wulfen with Storm Shields (200pts)
3x Thunderwolf Cavalry (100pts)
3x Thunderwolf Cavalry (100pts)
3x Thunderwolf Cavalry (100pts)
Ballistus Dreadnought (140pts): Armoured Feet, Ballistus Lascannon, Ballistus Missile Launcher, Twin Storm Bolter
Gladiator Lancer (160pts): Armoured Hull, Lancer Laser Destroyer, Two fragstorm grenade launchers, 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

>>96171431
EC
eldar
deldar (unironically more popular than eldar here by unique models posted)
grey knights
custodes

>>96171441
>my brother is a ruleshark
He's a faggot. Find a better brother.

Might be obvious to everyone but I'm having way more fun with the game when my approach towards listbuilding is just making sure I have something to score, something to kill infantry, something to kill elites and something to kill tanks, then taking whatever the hell I fancy that fits those categories without caring about meta or efficiency.

>>96171441
you own no models
your brother doesn't exist
you will deflect from this fact

Doing a casual doubles tourney next weekend. 1k Each. My friend is bringing Orks

Thoughts on this? Phalanx obviously.
I'm thinking the exalted in with the flamers for some extra durability when I infiltrate them, and possibly another squad then use the Rhino for whatever objective/secondary if I go that route.

Exalted Sorcerer w/ Risen Rubricae
1x Sorcerer

10x Rubric Marines
• 9x Rubric Marine Boltguns+SRC
• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer

10x Rubric Marines
• 9x Rubric Marine Boltguns+SRC
• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer

10x Rubric Marines
• 9x Rubric Marine Warpflamers+SRC
• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer

2x Chaos Spawn
2x Rhino

>>96171433
>quality of posts is extremely important to this community
kek

>>96171431
There are two deldar posters, one green one and one bone one, theres also the smelldar baselet but i havent seen him since well before the raid. I think we have two votannposters, one in purple and green and an orange one. There one iron hand poster, and one deathwatch guy I have seen in ages too. I don't think we have any RG or WS posters.

>>96171441
My lil bro plays Tsons too, and I play Wolves!

>>96171441
You have no miniatures

>>96171480
kys shit stirrer

>>96171481
youre not me

>>96171438
I thought everyone had picked up on that from the typing style. I'm surprised he hasn't started having conversations with himself about it yet

>>96171488
I am the vanquisher of chud freaks itt

>>96171441
>now i dont have any hounds of morkai
yes, you do, check under reiver

>>96171490
were not the same. i dont want to be associated with that nazi. i just wanted my model rules back for models i bought

>>96171490
He's trying to distract from the shadow the hedgehog meme shitting on him

>>96171490
What am I being accused of now?

>>96171505
You don't have models though

>>96171508
they think im you. i am not a nazi and i dont want to put nazi decals on my models.

>>96171507
Uh first of All it was a funny meme and I also played that game and had way better Chaos than you could ever even dream of having. Second stop accusing me of being other people and falseflagging, I am trying to make it onto the collage.

>>96171507
>shadow the hedgehog meme shitting on him
is it? it's just fun
or are you mistaking people laughing for people laughing at you?

>>96171507
Omg lmao that is what's happening isn't is hahaha

>>96171507
>>96171508
You did that thing where you hit send on your computer and phone at the exact same time again

>>96171511
why do you keep replying to this low quality bait, I don't understand

>>96171518
It's very clearly shitting on that subhuman

>>96171517
there was no garden in shadow you fucking larper

>>96171525
i just want my hounds of morkai back. this isnt fishing, this is talking.

>>96171514
Mind showing us a picture of your wolves friend?

>>96169573 (OP)
>Judiciar is now a good character for several armies to have
>still locked into a HORRIBLY overpriced sprue at 120+

there are truly no limits to the jews greed

Faggots get one bait they like then gotta milk it drier than the desert

>>96171524
>Agrees with post then links it again and accuses it if being samefagging
You doing okay there retard?

>>96171531
oh ok than the sonic 2 game I think it was, my bad

>>96171539
Get the Dawn of War box
And fuck GW, greedy cunts

>>96171508
>>96171514
>Just over a minute apart
Lmao

>>96171333
I'm going to do it I just also wanted some other opinions, I'm not sure if I want to do it with all Veteran models or just unit leaders.

>>96171536
sadly im far from them right now because im homeless. they should be safe where my brother lives but i wont be seeing him or the models for a while. i wont ask for pity.

>>96171539
Just give a chaplain a big ass sword. There's tonnes of cool chaplain sculpts to use

>>96171539
you all hated the judiciar sculpt since 9th while I maintained it was cool
this is your punishment

>>96171551
oh that sucks, sorry to here that and I hope things get better.

>>96171431
People can at least name a few Elf and Dorf anons but I don't think I've seen anyone post Admech, GK, or GSC since 10e codices started getting rolled out.

>>96171551
Then you don't have to worry about warhammer rules at all.

>>96171539
Wow I have a bunch of judiciars on sprue left over from buying a bunch of indomitus maybe I should sell now when the getting is good?

>>96171560
it isnt good. everything is getting more expensive and i havent bought new models in years because i have other important necessities to worry about. i just dont want to die miserably

>>96171556
I always thought he was cool, I just didn't really want anything else from the box in etb. I do like all the multipart versions of the kits in indomitus though

>>96171577
Yea I agree, hopefully we have a profound leap in AI and automation to make life easier for people.

>>96171567
there's one iyandenfag that shows up once in a blue moon while one of our best painters is an admech and tsons fag
and there are several GSCfags here, there's been a dude posting his progress ITT for weeks, another dude with a fremen themed army and at least one other with some really nicely volumetrically highlighted aberrants

>>96171573
This is the worst time to sell them. A lot of people are going to wait for the small flood of product from the dow board game. Wait until the target box goes out of stock and then the price will spike again

>>96171573
no point, the market just got tanked with the DoW box put out at 1/3rd the price of the same box normally, specifically to shaft scalpers

>>96171597
Moon? I haven't heard people refer to mechanicanon like that before

>>96171548
Yeah I wish I could get one, I'm an eurofag and the only place it arrived here (probably like 10 boxes) was only some shop in g*ermany and it sold out immediately

I dont think it will be much different in sept when there should be a 2nd wave

>>96171552
Yeah I think a kitbash is the only way to go now

>>96171556
I always thought it was cool, retarded mouth scarf aside

>>96171592
>Engineer, can you make AI and robots?
>To automate and make people's life easier?
>Cut costs by replacing workers like a boss

>>96171551
If you're homeless why do you have time to post for hours on end about models you can't even play with because you're homeless
Shouldn't you be looking for jobs, this story reeks of falsities

>>96171605
it's cool BECAUSE of the edgy defias bandit mask over the edgy chaplain skull helmet
mid-2000s cringekino at its finest

>>96171539
anon the judiciar is now part of the cheapest 40k box out there ($100 for 600pts of marines)

>>96171612
It's obviously a larp. There's no point in interacting with it further

>>96171619
>100
where do you live that the DoW box costs double its MSRP

>>96171612
because theyre still my models. im talking about this inbetween everything im doing. i only started talking today after i got done with goodwill for the day.

>>96171612
NTA but
You ever been homeless, anon?
You ever looked for a job?

>>96171627
buy two for 6 BGV and 6 Eradicators, then convert the spare Chaplain/Judiciar/Ancient

>>96171631
yes, and yes
if you're not spending all your free time looking for work you're not actually trying to fix your problem, you're waiting for somebody else to fix it for you

>>96171597
>while one of our best painters is an admech and tsons fag
Oh hey I play both of those guys too, painting is a fun nightmare.

>>96171551
Doesn't your country have any housing programs for the homeless? Like they help you with work and then eventually a shitty appartment? Are you american perchance?

>>96171639
You've never been in either of those situations and it shows

I'm sure anon that you were homeless and looking for a job for weeks, months even, no rest, no respite, 6 hours sleep, 18 hours looking for job, no internet, no passtime, LOCKED. THE FUCK. IN.

In your dreams, faggot.

Would you guyz want to see a diferent Orky Model, maybe a trukk or my dear Deffdread??

>>96171658
Uh oh slackabout melty

>>96171665
And there it is, the mask falls
>reeks of falsies
>was a lying faggot all along
Every time. Every accusation is a confession.

>>96171658
didn't take me months after I exited the service with nowhere to go because I actually applied myself for 12 hours a day putting myself out there and following up with places after applying until I found something that I could afford half an apartment's rent on and got a roommate locked in with library internet access
Sorry you're apparently inept and think everybody must be like you

>>96171678
>Homeless apologist is a pedophile too
Every time

>>96171627
>>96171638
how do you even get those boxes? I know there are none in EU, I thought they ran out immediately in US as well?

>>96171532
Show us your hounds, then. Since you have them

Here is a New model so I won’t spam

>>96171690
you look around your local targets and hope to get lucky
my target in the middle of nowhere idaho has 5 on the shelf after I grabbed mine

>>96171681
We making stuff up now? Incredible
>>96171684
>he fell for it
Got you again :)

>>96171696
And his little bro

>>96171604
>mechanicanon
I feel like I haven't seen his stuff in a while, same with the main blue ork dude. I hope they're still around

>>96171709
>We making stuff up now?
Imagine being so incompetent that somebody having a minutia of basic perseverance MUST be lying

>>96171720
The only perseverance you have is in continuing to think people will buy your bullshit.
You've never been in these shoes and it keeps showing.

While you guyz are all arguing I will post a Trukk

>>96171730
I don't know why the thought of somebody actually getting a job and lifting themselves up makes you so mad
your NEET projection must be wild

>>96171730
Maybe if you got a real degree you'd be able to find work lmao

>my situation has caused people to get angry
i shouldve just kept my mouth shut. i didnt want any of this :(

>fishing for attention when the conversation steers away from you
Your mask is slipping

You are all funky dudes indeed

>>96171719
They probably followed O&Tfag out after seeing the state of the general this month

>>96171742
It's not your fault faggots are trolling

>>96171733
>>96171737
These two have so little self-awareness they think they can brute force their bullshit.
>Oh you don't believe my made up shit? Well you must be (insert bad thing)
A normal person who actually had to go through those experiences wouldn't act this way, but a lying faggot on /tg/ always acts like this, it always devolves into the same deflecting behavior, they can't help themselves.

Check my chesteye before it gets covered up by this dude's sword.

>>96171765
>Slave, time for your new gifts of chaos
>Yes, master

>>96171737
There's no such thing as a real degree.

>>96171764
>If you don't subscribe to my liberal delusions you must be lying
Yawn

>>96171696
Orkz iz da best.

>>96171719
I think he just recently finished a squad of rubric marines in the past few weeks

>>96171776
See, cannot help themselves, textbook, called it

>>96171774
>This is what the GEDfag believes

>>96171772
As far as chaos gifts go, I think chest eyes are among the cooler ones to get.
I also forgot to put some ardcoat over it so imagine its slightly glossier in that pic.

>>96171765
>mfw I open the thread and it's 500 posts of seething

>>96171664
They should come out with a "Big Mek's Upgrade Sprue" that is a bunch of bits to kitbash other factions vehicles into Orky variants

>>96171737
>>96171774
The only real degree is the Celcius

>>96171753
The admech dude still posts in /wip/ so it'd make sense

>>96171431
Eldar are the least posted, though the few that are posted seem like completed projects. What I think is more interesting is abandonment, in other words what is posted but never finished? And for that I think it is sisters, I feel like I see them posted somewhat regularly, but never completed projects.

>>96171813
Kelvinlets in shambles

>>96171809
Kek, nice one.

>>96171831
I'd agree with you on seeing mainly half finished wips of sisters. There is the sister paintchad who has a few that are particularly lovely though

>>96171809
>tEYEresome

>>96171809
We need more reaction images of /40kg/ modelposters

>>96171809
we got the good wolf/bad wolf edit though

>>96171813
>>96171834
Farensisters, our response?

>>96171849
Listen here you little shit

>>96171849

First two layers on death guard done. Now it’s time for a green highlight.

>>96171873
Dg are so nice for drybrushing. I like the yellow brown for this layer

>>96169573 (OP)
>>Thread question:
>You can add one new unit to your army. No named characters. What's your big idea
SM add a generic chapter master data sheet. So you can have truly your dudes and a modle and data sheet to match it.

Make it a 0-1 selection. Give it classic style options in gear.
MK X tacticus armour
Gravis
Terminator
Diffrent and maybe even uniqe weapon selections to make him stand out. Give him option for a bike or exotic mount.

Make him me make him want to experiment and modle.

>>96171873
Indeed. Basecoat was vallejo English Uniform and first highlight was vallejo Desert Yellow. Bout to hit them with some Ogryn Camo to make them proper DG.

>>96171548
>>96171619
>>96171697
>be eu
>search ebay for dow boxes
>americans are selling them at the same price of the GW honoured of the chapters sprue

>>96171869
Which chaos god would get imps and hellhounds

Those twists are only intended for 4fun games right? My mates and me rolled the 18'' charges and it was funny but also there wasn't a single semblance of balance in that game lmao (they were shooty, I was stabby)

>>96171437
The army will miss his rule, but the model wasn't great, his lore wasn't great and his name was a pun on Khal Drogo. Hopefully they'll being in a new supreme grand master in time.
The worst is the complete lack of new stuff. 36% of the data sheets are now old vehicles.

>>96171900
>scalp cheaper product
>sell it at the store price
It's on GW

>>96171904
that's already what khorne has

>>96171918
Does khorne have nurgling equivalents? I'm not familiar with daemons

>>96171873
>>96171884
oops

>>96171437
Half the datasheets don't even have a mini picture. Looks grim for the boys from Titan.

>>96171943
I figured you missed lmao, I like ogryn camo quite a bit for drybrushing. It's a little transparent for layering flat panels but is really nice for popping edges if you've got a green or brown underneath

>>96171927
no because hes not that type of faggot

>>96172014
What type of faggot is he?

What is the appeal of Iron Warriors?

>>96169858
I'm starting to worry I won't make it in time but I'll fight till the end. Doing basecoats on the rest of the squad now.

>>96172075
Autism representation, duh

>>96172075
putting Imperial Fist jobbers into cages

>>96172078
ganbatte retroanon

>>96171567
you are a newfag then. we have at least 2 admech anons I have seen in the last year and they have just been working on other projects.

GSC has like 10 anons but half have them have been newfags with their first box that they didnt finish and washed out. GSC is one of THE most popular factions for new players. It just really appeals to new players, along with sisters.

>>96172075
Modern symbology taking on special/reverent meaning in the post-apocalyptic future is a really fun cliche.

>>96171963
I honestly prefer that. Either nothing or art but a pic of the model looks ugly.

>>96172075
Crusader Helms
Traffic lines
Chaos but too cool for Chaos
Homeworld is called Olympia
Peter Turbo
Iron Within
Using Chaos with Machinery is cooler than making yourself a slave to Chaos

>>96172200
(they're still slaves to chaos no matter how much they cope)

>>96172159
Okay but what does that have to do with Iron Warriors?

>>96169573 (OP)
>tq
Dunecrawler but bigger like land raider sized, on 6 or 8 legs and with some huge death ray mounted on top

>>96172210
They're nihilists
they dont care anymore and they just wanna fuck everything up for everyone else
trapping demons in machines and shaking them up like bees in jars is pretty funny though

Thoughts about this 1000 pts list?

Ragnar Blackmane (90pts)
Wolf Priest (80pts)

10x Blood Claws (135pts)

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170pts)
5x Wolf Guard Terminators (170pts)
3x Thunderwolf Cavalry (100pts)
3x Thunderwolf Cavalry (100pts)
Ballistus Dreadnought (140pts)

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ

Either Acolyte sappers with grapnel launchers to give us a "jump" infantry, or Acolytes with heavy hand flamers piloting power loaders to give us something closer to TEQ than aberrants (definitely not 2+ save though).

Reposting progress on my metamorph kitbash project for the collage. Just put down a shade on the leather belts and bits.

>>96169573 (OP)
>TQ

>>96172211
>""""""""""humour""""""""""
The Imperium uses hazard stripes as well, and plays it completely straight.
It has a cultural usage and meaning beyond
>"geddit? stripes mean hazard, bolter is hazard!"
Even though that is the joke to the viewer, it's played painfully straight in-universe. Which fucking writer failed to understand this bitch-basic satire?

How big is the most recent Farsight exactly compared to XV8 and XV85? It's kinda hard to tell from the photos. Thinking of kitbashing a battlesuit.

>>96172228
That sure is a space wolf list

Idk how people have marines riding wolves and not feel embarassed

>>96172317
they're not limpwristed faggots like you is how probably

So uh I think we just lost half of out posters

>>96172324
Someone snapped their fingers. Notice all the dead celebs this week?

>>96172324
Somehow it's always the wolves players who do this.

>>96172256
>The Imperium uses hazard stripes as well, and plays it completely straight.
Well that's their business. The IW do it because they think it's funny. It's not reverence, it's an in-joke.

>>96172324
What do you mean?

>>96172324
I honestly can't blame anyone that leaves, this place is such a fucking mess

>>96172344
>>96172345
It's the great Bong ban

Will this get updated?

>>96171907
Yes, I also ran a game with it and it was blast. I also had one where the units could go through terrain and tanks were just rolling and it was just fun. Most people just shy away from it from my LGS.
>>96172140
I started with GSC last year but the word on the street is that it's a difficult army to play the game with, is expensive and a bitch to paint so it's definitely something that a newcomer should stay away from. I just liked the lore and went with it.

>>96172353
It doesn't need one

>>96172353
it's one of the oldest kits in the game now so probably

>>96172345
Where do they go?

>>96172352
Bong ban? Qrd?

>>96172078
I believe in purpleking

>>96172353
I really hope not, whatever replaces it will inevitably be much worse.

>>96172381
New laws in the England require photo ID be provided to websites that host age restricted content in order to view them. Anyone with any sense of infosec can see why this is a bad idea. And 4chan is an 18+ website.

>>96172381
Diff anon, but I am pretty sure you have to ID yourself for a loiscence to use adult websites now

>>96172406
>>96172410
lmao what the fuck

>>96172406
>>96172410
Jesus when I thought britain couldn't get any worse they drop something dumb or horrific like this. F for all out bongs

>>96172406
>>96172410
They might be able to get around it by using the 4channel mirror like they used to have for all the worksafe boards

>>96172417
>>96172433
The elites want to replace their populace with third worlders to make a neo-feudalist serf class to exploit, this is just one more step in that direction.
I wonder if GW will ever leave England

>>96172353
Wish granted, it's now a fucked up looking grav-tank with awful proportions and costs $120.

>>96172406
>>96172410
It's really odd the Bongs and American South seem to agree on this one point.

>>96172455
Kino

>>96172406
Apparently people have already discovered that at least some of the age verification services are very easy to fool by uploading a picture of an ID taken straight from Google images.

>>96172406
>New laws in the England
Wait, it's not even the whole UK? That can't be right.

I have a bunch of hormagaunts and 2 lictors, with 18 leapers cheap off ebay coming in the mail.
I'm thinking of basing their colouration off of orchid mantises, or at least the leapers and lictors.
Might go traditional green praying mantis for my gaunts. Make them a scyther horde.

>>96172516
>white base with purple tint
box-art leviathan then?

>marines get bigger
>thunder hammers are actively smaller than the 2015 models
the only really embarrassing thing with the refresh

>>96172516
I raised a colony of these lil ladies one summer. I got some egg sacs but I didnt hatch them the next summer but it was a blast raising them. They were so pretty and really didnt mind being handled. Very cheap to do as well. I should have taken some pictures next to my models.

>>96169697
>Didn't like ash nomad models
>Play morrowind
>Like them now
How did Todd do it?

Did we even have that many britbong anons? My impression is that most of us are burgers and then we have a few euros and an asian or two.

>>96172516
Mantis shrimp are also a cool option for bugs

>>96172550
Bugs are fun pets. I kept a king baboon tarantula for a few years and it was a tonne of fun. Want to keep scolopendra gigantea at some point

What would be a good paint to do an old, corroded bronze?

>>96172556
It's a big hobby there so I would assume we had at least a few

>>96172576
pro acryl dark bronze with your verdigris effect of choice

>>96169697
These guys are so so cool. It's a shame they got shafted with a couple details. A lot of the fabric looks great but some of the fabric might be the worst sculpted details on a modern sculpt in a while

>>96172575
If I saw that thing in real life I'd puke and piss and shit myself and faint like an 1800s noblewoman.

>>96172381
Still here mush

>>96169626
>>96169608
You get around this one by allowed land raiders and rhinos to have doom siren upgrades.

Then add back in the fucking sonic dreadnaught.

>>96172220
lovely not!cawl

>>96172575
That garloid looks weird.

>>96172546
>people complain about nerf guns, so they nerf the hammers
>people still mad
GW can't win, but that's mostly their fault.

>>96172597
They are fucking fast when they want to be too. So cool. Never seen one as calm as this one irl, most of them are nightmare beyblades that are just eternally seething

>>96172615
I think im gonna vomit

>>96165311
I have also been here for 17 years, but I was gone for a few years and came back in 2022 to find the board turned to dogshit with newfags demanding all warhammer discussion stay in a few generals.

The answer is that I should have left in 2015 and stayed gone forever. You can never leave, you get older and the funny holds up spork maymays with the teenage egirls turn to ash in your mouth as you realize nyanners is a 32yo vtuber now and your life and the board quality just gets worse. 4chan.net 4shizzle

>>96172621
Look at his cute antennae though, they're so wiggly

>>96172615
>Never seen one as calm as this one
I remember reading that they can be calmed down a bit if the keeper overfeeds them.

>find a kill team for a good price
>realize it's missing several models because the seller is a fag
It would take me more than the price of a new kill team to buy the models from bits sellers. Stop doing this shit. It's been almost 21 months since I wanted this and I still haven't bought because of the endless scalping attempts and bad deals. Fucking ebay cunts.

>>96172628
I've been here for 10 years. I bow to you, ancient one.

>>96172576
I like to use balthazar gold with nuln oil wash with nihilak oxide and ironbreaker edge shading and highlights for death guard bronze.

>>96172556
As per my source of /britpol/ they're still around so idk

>>96172641
You know what's actually really funny. In 2014 I saw a post from an ancienter one who started in 2003 talking about how 4channers were seething all the time because they wasted their youth online. Young me resolved not to waste my youth, and do something with my life. Then covid 19 happened right at the peak of my career and I had to start over and now I'm old. No matter how hard you strive, the universe will conspire to shit on your face and then ask if you want a little more and you say "no I'm good" but it'll shit on you some more anyway just in case you weren't sure.

>>96172655
They don't think it be like it is but it do

We frigpostan, we frenspostan

>>96169868
This turned out sick

>>96172655
I waste my youth in academia then covid happened and now I'm old too.

>>96169573 (OP)
I remember some sheets from Citadel with a marine backpack and several colour recipes used on them, but I cant find them anymore.

Does anyone have them at hand/know a link?

>>96172675
>I waste my youth in academia
Isn't that the time where you have the most opportunity to make social connections? Or do you mean you just didn't use that time in a way you are satisfied with?

>>96172686
It was spent researching and studying history and classics with other autists who lived in their own separate goon caves. Didn't help that covid happened. Then when it passed I realized I didn't like it anymore and now I'm a feeble old man working in an antique store.

>>96172668
soon

>>96169573 (OP)
>You can add one new unit to your army. No named characters. What's your big idea
Generic Rogue Trader
Ridiculous wargear options, archeotech, xenotech whatevers weird and wacky. Pistols and swords/ccws mostly. Fun nades, digi weps, combat stims what have you. Add a configurable retinue with neat xenos characters and things like seneschal/master of arms and others pulled from the Rogue trader's House. An allies system like imperial agents but its eldar corsairs, ork freebootas/goff mercs, kroot, and other assorted xenos options. stratagems for setting up units in reserve via teleporting and orbital bombardments.

>>96169697
I have a strong urge to field those guys as a guard regiment.

>>96169573 (OP)
Generic Inquisitor kit. Can be built as a psyker, gunslinger or melee blender or hybrid of the options with a few wargear options and lots of head swaps and bits. Comes with a servo skull token.

>TQ
Suzerain caste skitarii, i.e.: veteran skitarii with esoteric weaponry.

>>96172778
god yes this.

>>96169573 (OP)
>You can add one new unit to your army. No named characters. What's your big idea
Take the big automata TKSon unit in HH and put it in 40k.
Take the SC2 Archon and give it to TKSons.

Is it better to have a 10 man unit of Terminators or 2x 5 man units?

>>96172882
2 if you're not attaching anybody to them

>>96172882
depends who you're fighting
generally 2x 5 is better but I find as an ork player I will chew through a squad of 5 faster than the marine player thinks

>>96172882
10 man squad of Terminators with Stormshields is 40 wounds to chew through. You could even forgo some of them to bring some shooting with Wolfguard Terminators although Assault Terminators “seem” to be more bang for your points.

just got a message from James Workshop he said the dark eldar refresh is cancelled and they're gonna do orks instead

>>96172406
>>96172410
What keeps using AI? Will it reject if it doesn't look like you enough? Can you edit your own pics?

>>96172955
Neat. Give the Orks the looted raiders and Grot-esques

>>96173034
need to fix the new boyz kit first and foremost

>>96173039
Boyz are fine
The last thing we need is an easy to build push for boys set

>>96173043
how are they
the box builds 5 sluggas 3 shootas a nob and a special weapon
need 4 boxes for one 10 man squad of shootas

>>96173055
Is that the new set?

>>96173059
these

>>96173059
Yea. It's fucking trash. You're also fucked on building 20 man mobs because the Nob is not optional. So while you can at least save extra Nob leaders to make Nob squads, you're still an ork short for every 2 boxes.