Choose federal law enforcement. Choose the military. Choose NASA or the CDC. Choose lying to your superiors. Choose to ruin your career. Choose no friends. Choose divorce. Choose life through the bottom of a bottle. Choose destroying evidence and executing innocent people because they know too fucking much. Choose black fatigues and matching gas masks. Choose an MP5 stolen from the CIA loaded with Glasers, with a wide range of fucking attachments. Choose blazing away at mind numbing, sanity crushing things from beyond the stars, wondering whether you'd be better off stuffing the barrel in your own mouth. Choose The King in Yellow and waking up wondering who you are. Choose a 9mm retirement plan. Choose going out with a bang at the end of it all, PGP encrypting your last message down a securely laid cable as an NRO Delta wetworks squad busts through your door. Choose one last Night at the Opera. Choose Delta Green.


Anyways, new to making a general thread, any recommendations going forwards? Also I got the Green Box link, so should I post it here too or not?

>Thread Question:
What's your favorite group in the setting?

I love the Elder Things because they're the only guys humans can get along with at all
>I swear, those leathery five-sided frond wavers are about the closest thing to a friend we're going to find in a CoC universe. The fact that we can understand their art and their angles don't bite our faces off is a good sign.

I've heard about Delta Green several times but know very little about how it actually plays. What are the mechanics like, what's the campaign experience like?

>>96173775
Very much based off of Call of Cthulhu with some differences like the Lethality system (in addition to damage, some weapons have a set percentage of death, generally things like machine guns or explosives), and the Bonds system. Basically how many bonds you get depends on your background and are things like relationships or friends that are used to expand upon the character as well as regulate sanity. When Agents lose SAN or go temporarily insane, they can spend 1d4 from both Willpower and any Bond to try to repress the insanity, and usually gets played out the next time their is downtime between missions, and it's meant to symbolize it harder to even relate to the world know that you know the damning truths about reality.

Campaign wise I'd say it's definitely more investigative and horror driven. Think the X-files. They can also vary with the sheer amount of Mythos related groups/entities or even Era (90s DG was illegal conspiracy with 2000s DG having 2 forms of the official Program with all their fancy gov toys and the Cowboys that didn't come back to the new "official" DG and are largely self-reliant). It's a lot of fun, though I've only been a Handler for it. You can get the free starter book online called "Delta Green - Need to Know".

>>96173775
Take the investigation/mystery aspects of a typical Call of Cthulhu scenario, and add a healthy dose of conspiratorial paranoia and actual mechanics for watching your character's life disintegrate as a result of constant exposure to cosmic horrors, and that'd be a pretty close summary of your average DG campaign.

>>96173649 (OP)
All the 90's antagonists were very good. Sure having immortal nazis and magic mafias was perhaps too pulpy and cheesy for the new vibe they were going for; but at least the Fate, Karotechia and MJ-12 all had something going on for them. The new edition gives you some bare bones on potential threats and expects you to do the rest, while the presented groups from the Labyrinth pale in comparison with what is provided in Countdown, Eyes Only and Targets of Opportunity.

>>96173649 (OP)
Choose rockbanger. Choose berrypicker. Choose black fur and matching war mask. Choose flint tool
stolen from shaman with wide range of fucking attachments. Choose bang away at mind-numbing,
sanity-crushing thing from beyond stars, wonder whether grug better of stuffung rock in own mouth.
Choose Chieftain in Yellow and wake up wondering who grug are. Choose kilogram retirement plan.
Choose go out with rockbang at end of it all, PGP encrypting last message down securely laid smoke
signal as Rust Covered Arrowhead wetgrug bust into cave.
Choose one last Night at the Bunga.
Choose Moss Covered Arrowhead

>>96175235
I'm fine with them being dropped. Karotechia and Fate came off more as supervillain organizations than clandestine occultists and the "Greys are just skinsuits for Mi-Go" concept always left me sour on MJ-12. The OG DG antagonists always feel like afterthoughts stapled onto the game, albeit ones that had a lot of effort put into them.

>>96173979
>>96173980
Got any actual-play series you'd recommend?

>>96175582
I don't listen to actual plays myself, but I have heard good things about Black Project Gaming, Get in The Trunk, and Sleeping Low.

>>96175295
You know what, I had an idea for a Delta Green op where it turned out it either wasn't super natural and was just an agent gone anarcho-primitivist causing some havoc or something Ithaqua related happening to said agent, and I'm thinking about having them drop this or something like it, so thank ya for this.

>>96175522
I quite like Karotechia, even if the idea is a bit silly. Still a great first conspiracy for a group new to the game to work towards thwarting and feeling like they make a big difference, only to realize a bit later that it was an organization that was already on it's way out and they truly are in an unwinnable war.

>>96177595
Having a Night at the Opera turn out to be something mundane or the Mythos link be incidental can be very effective as long as you use it sparingly. There is a scenario where the players are supposed to investigate a women's shelter that might be a front for a Mythos cult committing sacrifices but it turns out that the people running the shelter are simply murdering their client's abusers and using a bunch of New Age gobbledygook that happens to unknowingly contain Mythos terms to make their clients think they have supernatural powers.

>>96179025
I think the problem is Karotechia being presented as a major antagonist when it's just three guys. I would have positioned them as much less important figures. However, I would posthumously made them one of the biggest threats to keeping the Mythos secret by having them realize that they're doomed by either the government or the progression of time and disseminating as much of their knowledge as wide as they could as a final "fuck you."

>>96179522
For the more mundane stuff, I know my players will most likely go in expecting supernatural stuff out the gate, so gonna do like 2-3 scenarios of mundane (with the last one having some unexplained elements that might be supernatural but might not) before leading it into either the first part of Future/Perfect or Music From A Darkened Room. And then from there throw in a scenario or two of mundane stuff as breathers or just to shake things up.

Also thought about throwing in some stuff like PX Poker Night to give them some established backup characters and stuff like that to flesh things out a bit more too.

>>96177595
Fish grug come out of water, make bunga with tribe. Tell story of sea father. Moss Covered Arrowhead
club fish grug.
Long face tribe come out of ground, eat dead grug. Tell story of earth father. Moss Covered Arrowhead
club long face tribe.
Sky devil come out of sky, take grug headbunga. Tell story of sky god. Moss Covered Arrowhead club
sky devil.
Long Walk shaman take sky rock to spirit hut, make bad magic. Moss Covered Arrowhead club Long
Walk shaman.
Moss Covered Arrowhead keep grugs safe from bad spirit. Store useful bunga and danger bunga in Moss
Cave. Talk with grugs by encrypted drum and secure smoke signal.

Identify Moss Covered Grug with call and response:
C: What do when cave filled with bug?
R: Make fire

>>96179522
Three guys with a lot of contacts, mythos artifacts/knowledge and a whole lot of latino neo nazis who would willingly lay down their lives for the 4th Reich and a chance of becoming proper aryans via the Veil of Skin spell. Knowing how many Swastika wearing South Americans there are that should give them a good recruiting pool.

>>96182147

Hi anon, I'm new to /tg and in general to 4chan, do u recommend buying the old DG books + coc (which edition?)? Or it's not worth the assle compared to standalone edition?

>>96182956
What type of brown are you

>>96183075
haahha no brown mate but not wasp

>>96182956
I'd say the newer edition is quite good with stuff like the Bonds system, but it did advance the time line about 20 years and it did take them a while to really flesh out any of the new groups for the old ones they replaced. I'd say at the very least if you are going to get any of the older books, then get Countdown. It's a wonderful trove of info and ideas, and really goes into depth on some of DG's best factions.

>>96173775
Premade setting is grimdark Call of Cthulhu with leftist political takes. System is something like CoC 6e meets 7e and a little more streamlined than both.

>>96184260
thanks for the response, honestly i much prefere the older books they get more of the vibe that i'm searching

>>96184690
Best thing to do imo is use both the old and new books lore stuff and take what I like, and use the rules from the newer edition.

>>96184493
Leftist political takes?

>>96185930
The books are generally anti-gubamint in general but they are especially heavy on "Trump bad, ICE bad, Christians bad, Rightists bad" narratives. The stock Delta Green villain is a cultist indoctrinating rightist and/or religious people to do evil shit.

>>96185968
Wow that sounds like it would be really annoying to read through.

>>96186075
It's mainly in scenario stuff like God's Teeth, a bit less so in the actual rulebooks. Also it's incredibly easy to subvert back lmao, since it's usually about people abusing their power in the organizations.

>>96186204
Is there a fan scenario where ICE stumbles across an aztec death cult and the players have to try and stop it?

>>96186223
No idea, but ICE is a player background you can have, so you could make it a campaign if you want.

>>96186075
It is, but like CoC itself you can ignore the setting and use the rules for w/e you want. IMO it's just a worse version of CoC though.

>>96186830
>IMO it's just a worse version of CoC though.
Can you elaborate?

>>96186223
No but there is one that flat out states the Tcho-Tcho weaponize claims of racism the moment anyone starts looking into their practices and the best option for a violent resolution is convincing the local Vietnamese immigrant community and skinhead biker gang to team up for hate crimes.

>>96186075
The main thing with delta green is that human beings are perfectly capable of being shitty without mythos influence, but nythos influence always makes bad things worse and is never that far away. The creators were anti government libertarian types in the 90s and they still are now. A big part of the settings core concept was taking what was going on in American conspiracy theory culture and saying "well what if nyalathotep was behind this?". The first DG scenario has greys and cattle mutilations in it and a big part of it.
They're more or less still anti bootlicking in general, they didn't stop just because we've got a new flavor of boot.
>>96186204
>since it's usually about people abusing their power in the organizations.
A big part of the new DG is that basically majestic won by rebranding itself as delta green and that it is impossible to know the actual motivations of the people up the chain. The same people that were giving mi-go permission to abduct people in the 80s in exchange for a cold war tech advantage are now your boss.