Mascot Gargoylian -Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96165831

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
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>Tools
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>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Thread Question
What is the best Companion animal in age of sigmar?

What's your favourite storm marine chapter?

>tq
the humble corpse vulcha

Anyone know of a place or have the STL for this Sphinx? I wanna use this and a seperate teclis as my model

>>96175333 (OP)
>TQ
Spites carry Sylvaneth.
Literally

how does khorne play? I mostly paint but I've played a few games of spearhead. I like the blood warriors and heroes. the reavers are alright and I remember vince venturella calling them "negative points" cause they die like clanrats.

are they unga bunga zerkers or more of a positioning reliant counter-attack army? for the record I have like 2.2k points of nurgle rotbringers and an IJ spearhead. the new khorne spearhead isn't bad but i want mortals, and i can mabe find the old one at my LGS. the slaughterpriest with hackblade looks incredible. and yes I know they're AIDS to paint but I have experince painting a good amount of red CSM including khorne berserkers

The Khorgus khul set is STILL on the GW store after all these years but it doesn't appeal much to me and I'm skeptical about their new RoR's sculpts

>>>96175333 (OP)
>tq
the humble rotfly

>>96175367
their playstyle is about to change from a very tech reliant army to an army that ramps up the violence over the entire game.

>>96175333 (OP)
>TQ
The loyal and noble squigbull of course
>>96175344
Wonder how many of these gw managed to sell. They could've put some alternate weapons in there at the very least.
>>96175367
Like >>96175372 said looks like khorne will change a bit with their tome, they used to a pretty technical army with a big toolbox, now it looks like their thing will be ramping up their tricks over the course of the game as more models die.

>>96175344
>IS that A HECKIN DIFFERENT SHIELD ROFL STORMARINOS HAHA
kill yourself.

>>96175367
Previously, 8ed ultramarine bubble aura deathstar playstyle
Soon: RIP and Tear to get stronger. Options for your buffs to be extra anti magic or anti physical.
If I had to compare it to magic they went from a Johnny-Spike army to a Timmy army

>>96175353
There are so many things I'd like to see GW do with the Sylvaneth range. I love everything what's already there, and it's because of that that I like to imagine new things they could do. I want more bugs, I want faeries, I want revenants with multiple pairs of arms and a different weapon in every hand, I want trees that naturalized to the urban life and dress up like city slickers, I want trees that grow squishy fruit and throws it at people, I want pines and birches, I want trees that area always on fire, I want trees armored in plates of amber, and so on.

I fucking adore their model range and I want so much more for it.

>>96175333 (OP)
Why do the goyles not have wings?
The one from HQ does

It's the bone tithe! Show me your skeletons and various osteos! Wv4

>>96175420
Hell yeah brother, angry trees are cool as fuck

>>96175441
>>96175344
Really you got nothing better to do? Go make your bait thread elsewhere.
>inb4 Shaerk post

REMINDER TO REPORT ANY BR*TISH OR SUSPECTED BR*TISH POSTER.
THE DAY OF THE BONG IS HERE

>>96175344
Anvils of the Heldenhammer, love their scheme

>>96175441
Y'know, I really like this one actually, like despite what anon claims, there is literally no indication that this is an AoS player, he's wearing a Horus Heresy t-shirt, the terrain is some generic cardboard that can be used in any game, there isn't a model in sight to indicate that its AoS related

>>96175385
>>96175372
>>96175402
hey thanks for this guys. I heard here and there that they could get complicated if you wanted to play them effectively, but this new way of snowballing from the killing sounds more on-brand and fluffy.

is there any defining trait that sets the daemon half apart from the mortal half or do they like to mix together most of the time?

>>96175497
is his ballsack actually his brain?

Like how a stormfiend has a fetus-rat attached to him to serve as his brain

>>96175605
I think it being broadly applicable to both is the worst part. The whole tournament scene is cancer

Can someone tell me how much time has passed since the events of the first edition until the fourth?

>>96175497
Boner I painted as a one off.

>>96175607
>his ballsack actually his brain?
Yes.

>>96175630
Around 300-400 years since the 2st ed Starter Box battle. Time skip between 2 and 3 is unclear

>>96175637
I like the mantle. The thick highlighting makes it look like a heavy fabric like velvet.

>>96175659
>Faithfully serve Lord Nagash
>Collect the tithe for years
>Promised a promotion
>Wake up as the scrotum of a harvester
T-thanks

>>96175333 (OP)
Friendly reminder Fyreslayers are an existing army, they exist since the beginning of AoS and they deserve an expansion already.

>>96175630
The Sons of Behemat audio drama says the Realmgate Wars were more than four generations ago - before the protagonists' great grandfather was born. So the end of 2nd edition is over 200 years.
iirc somewhere comments on the time between Anvilgard's fall and 3rd edition being decades.

I'm guessing the current timeframe is royally fucked thanks to named human characters.
Tahlia is already old, how would she realistically exist in 5th edition unless everything in the edition happened on a rough weekend

>>96175729
Officially the oldtimers like Callis and Toll are staying alive by routinely chugging aqua ghyranis. I suppose that's just how it's gonna be with all these characters going forward.

>>96175737
Its so lame if you think about it..

>>96175699

realmgate wars where before 1st edition though?

>>96175786
That's why we avoided named humans for 2 editions

>>96175795
No they weren't. They were all the shit happening during it. Age of Sigmar starts with Vandus being sent down to stop Khul. That was the 1st Stormcast battle, Quest for Ghal Maraz and Realmgate Wars were fought by newly arriving Stormcast later on.

>>96175795
Why would you ever think that?

>>96175786
It's a problem with human characters in every warhammer setting. Elves, Dwarves, Aliens...you just handwave that shit, they're effectively immortal. But once you place a human anywhere in a timeline it gets complicated.

>>96175627
I think that’s the whole point of posting it

>>96175821

because the 10 books are all prequel campaign books release during 1st edition

>>96175827
Why are you pretending you've read them?

how much of Spearhead's playerbase plays Bigmar, do you guys think? Do most people you know play both or do they lean to one game?

>>96175811
Yeah, the core book states Stormcasts have just appeared and the RGW details their deployment and purpose. Firestorm and the Seasons of War similarly details the founding of cities contemporarily and directly follows up from the recent events with Alarielle.
Anon legitimately has no clue what he's talking about.

>>96175786
>>96175825
yeah, it's kind of an unfortunate side-effect of the setting being/having a moving meta-plot instead of a (mostly) static one like in old fantasy. If I remember correctly 40k also had to kill off some of their more memorable human characters when they moved on from their equilibrium in 8th.

>>96175825
>>96175837
WHF wasn't bogged down by the chronology because narrative play was prominent. Grom the Paunch and others were long since dead but why not have rules to replicate past battles?
Modern Warhammer is just obsessed with promoting characters as active participants.
>OMG what will glup shitto do in this new event?! I love glup!

Where is home, city slicker?

>>96175682
In the fluff for bone reapers, there is ZERO promotion, you are appointed immediately to the task best suited for you. There is only DEMOTIONS if you fail.
So ball sack guy either fucked up or was determined that being the scrotum head man was his prime purpose in life

>>96175867
> Life
Undeath

>>96175862
>no rules
Who cares

>>96175876
Unfortunately this
I miss cities and factions having their own rules, the issue was they couldn't balance.
But this gay 'lol it's playstyle based aka what do you want to spam' is lame and gay and have a woman in it

>>96175859
> Also, Glup Shitto has a new novel from BL!!! Buy the special edition!!!
That's the real reason they push the SC slop. The cross promotion. I'm sure whatever suit that demanded this idea was very proud of it. He really used whatever shit degree he got from some mid ass UK business school

>>96175880
I never cared about balance because I'm not >>96175441

>>96175889
40k had a strong ip with demand for SC that existed for decades before release. AoS just naively shits them out expecting the same attachment towards literal who new characters retroactively defining armies/cultures

>>96175889
>>96175903
The fuck is a SC?
Soriginal Character?

Skaven racing

>>96175917
Special character you fucking newfag

First you shitbags complain the world has no definition or lore, then you complain when they add actual characters and write novels to flesh it out. Fuck off.

>>96175333 (OP)
>I'm putting together a team

>>96175987
Ten years fleshing it out then they retcon everything "shields and fortified positions were invented by this black woman last year"

Nick Horth and Reynolds are my AoS
Nu-AoS isn't

>>96175997
there's better familiars around

>>96176037
She literally opposes the widespread adoption of it citing that it only worked as well as it did for her because of the specific situation her force was in at the time. It’s a colossal overreaction by the ruling bodies of the cities because they were desperate for something that wasn’t “throw dudes at it until it dies”.

>>96176088
that changes what I wrote how?

>>96175862
Misthavn, praise oquatan
Lethis and greywater are cool too.
Fuck nagash and especially FUCK treeoids

>>96176037
>waaah I don't like it
go yell at clouds grandpa.

>>96176099
Because it’s not a retcon. It’s an advancement of the narrative. No shit, she didn’t invent shields or fortified positions she just had the right circumstances for using the combination of both to yield a wildly successful result. A fluke. Like when a real life corporation tries something, catches lightning in a bottle, and then other corporations try doing the same thing to varying degrees of success or failure because they don’t consider the circumstances of what made the original thing work, they just saw the success and wanted it for themselves. Please practice nuanced thinking every now and then.

>>96176112
yeah, who cares if regular dwarves and shit are gone. go play TOW for that

>>96176173
this but unironically

>>96176193
im not being ironic it's just natural progression. CoS didn't really exist before the new range and leftover trash like tempest eye and phonecium were addressed so it's not even a retcon

>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PRETEND WANDERERS NEVER EXISTED AND RELEASE KURNOTHI
>WHO DELIVERS THE MAIL WITHOUT SWIFTHAWK AGENTS

>>96175420
Yeah well you get furry elves. You're welcome.

>>96175333 (OP)
Soon

>>96175862
I ride for Alarielle!

>>96176298
for TOW

>>96176314
Love how vibrant those are

>>96176314
Nice!

>>96175862
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>>96176314
nice! very fitting metal colour. Btw how many helmets come in that box ?

>>96176405
>>96176418
Thanks!
>>96176443
6 regular helmets, one boss helmet(the dear head guy in front). plus five unhelmeted heads. And all the regular helmets can be posed open or closed

I don't have the Command Corpse kit so I can't say for sure, but looking at the sprues it looks like the fish helmet from that is compatible too, but not the bear helmet

>>96176443
6 + deer helm guy

>>96176037
>I-IS THAT...IT CANT BE...A WOMAN..AHH, I"M GOING INSANE, SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!

>>96176314
can you assemble these without that stupid deerhat on the leader?

>>96175997
I wonder if they’ll release a familiar pack like the skull one at some point.

>>96176514
Deer hat is meant to show the unit champion, but he has a "generic" option

>>96176490
>>96176493
Cheers lads.

>>96176268
Love me some furry elves

Is time: Dispossesed, Wood elves and Dark elves should go to ToW

>>96176718
You're a bit behind the schedule dude.

>>96176718
Yes. We get new more classical dwarves with a volcanic touch and get added as a large range to Fyreslayers. Kurnothi get expanded even more with some equivalent of Wood elf shit like fast archers and a mid Frontline. Dark elves get moved but we get Umbraneth full range similar to HoH sized. Big monster, Malerion dragon form is the giga center piece god. Spear Frontline, Greatsword Executioners, nightmare Pegasus riders, some kinda, hot sorceresses and scary executioner foot hero, Crossbow ranged. They look like their war cry with lots of cloaks and smoke and some AoSify shit.
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>>96176718
I have two pieces of good news and one of bad news for you

>>96176718
>does he know?
In all seriousness I don't think people would complain about the last de and dorf elements leaving CoS, provided they flesh out the range with somewhat equivalent units gameplay wise (e.g. arch knights instead of hammerers) or thematically (dwarf ironweld units or something)

>>96176912
This.
Just flesh out the army a touch more.
The old TOW shit next to the new stuff looks like ass. Give us CoS elves and dwarfs or cut sling load on them all

Can somebody explain to me what the fuck dracothion is exactly ? He seems to predate the mortal realms themselves. Is he a an old one ? A god beast ? where does his affection for the seraphon come from ? what the fuck has he been doing since rescuing siggy?
For arguably the second most important character of the setting after the big man himself he's quite the enigmatic figure.

>>96176954
My wife

>>96176954
He's just a godbeast, like countless other ones.
Within the story he's one of those rare Titans that actually backed Zeus instead of Kronos (like Athena's mom), here a godbeast that cooperated instead of needing to be killed to make room

If they give the leftovers of delfs to DoK... Where Malerion enters? Because at some point we are getting Malerion right?

>>96176994
yeah but the weird thing is he encountered siggy in 'the void', before making it to the MR, that's what's tripping me up about the godbeast thing. Are there more of his kind ?

>>96176954
>He seems to predate the mortal realms themselves
your impression is wrong, time was weird when the realms formed, stretched and dilated, they didn't materialise in the blink of an eye, uncountable eons passed, even if the future inhabitants arrived there "shortly after" the end times, the realms were at the same time young and already old
>Is he a an old one ?
absolutely not
>where does his affection for the seraphon come from ?
met them, talked with them, and he felt sympathetic with their story and cause, considering he met the slann first and sigmar later, it might be possible that he looked out for sigmar and allied with him specifically as a consequence of what the slann told him
>what the fuck has he been doing since rescuing siggy?
he's a godbeast of azyr, if not THE godbeast of azyr, he manages the movements of the heavens, also the fact his kind reincarnates may or may not be related to how sigmar devised the method for reincarnating his troops, you'll find me suggesting dracothion actively contributes with the reforging somehow

>>96177103
>If they give the leftovers of delfs to DoK...
They won't, dark elves are leaving aos and going back to tow.

>>96177105
The void is just the space between mortal realms. Planty of things are in it right now, including other meteorites from Malus that may or may not contain comatose barbarian kings.
Sure not many things can survive in it, but that just means Dracothion can actively fly from one realm to another without using realmgates

>>96177136
2 more weeks

Reminder that Dracothion got knocked out by a single punch from Gorkamorka, so he's not that strong

>>96177161
He’s right. It’s been a decade and if you want to buy DE from GW you will get them with the old square bases. They haven’t bothered to repack them for 10 years for AoS. It’s never happening. But Lizardmen are probably going to tow before DE with the recent repack of the saurus and the Great Plan teaser on warcom.

>>96177185
>Great Plan teaser
not a teaser

>>96176514
>>96176621
The deer hat is because the unit leader is actually an Arch Knight. All the Arch Knights wear armor themed around an animal, for some reason. It hasn't been really delved into in the lore yet.

>>96177171
Gorkamorka is chaos god tier so

>>96177190
Kek relax seraphon stay in AoS and tow gets lizardmen. Everyone is happy at the end of the day. The reboxing is pretty convincing evidence.

>>96177150
Soul Wars says Nagash and Sigmar fought things from the void for an age who threatened the incipient realms. Basically Ragnarok bros.

>>96176718
TGA leakers said all three

>>96177210
>reboxing
Ah yes, the re boxing in Thailand is solid evidence.

>>96177231
the guy who showed off accurate 4e core book?

>>96177231
They reboxed saurus because…???

>>96177210
TOW players would be thrilled to get ongoing support for Lizardmen, but they wouldn't be "thrilled" about the old Lizardmen sculpts coming back. There might be some nostalgia factor, but I don't think you could find anyone who would genuinely argue that the new Seraphon sculpts aren't a huge improvement.

And AoS players would only be happy if this meant they got new Skink models. If it meant Skinks got squated from AoS, they would be incredibly unhappy

>>96177250
>reboxed

>>96177256
I would argue that personally. They didn’t keep the same aesthetic in AoS. They look like dragons and not like the lizards they look Iike in fantasy. Also some sculpts like the Slaan are just a downgrade.

How I'd like to see the current Dark Elf range within the Age of Sigmar.
>phase out everything (or move to ToW), but also remake part of it
>make new Executioners for DoK with a fancy AoS name like Draichwielding Decapitators, make it a two unit box
>make new Warlocks for DoK, also a two unit box, possibly with Krethusa-themed second option
>make a new Hydra/Charybdis box for DoK
>add some aelven units to CoS, like a Lothern Sea Guard / Corsair hybrid, also a mounted version for some fast cav, one hero on foot, one hero on some big flying monster

>>96177325
how about it all just goes like the Fleetmaster because no one gives a shit

>>96177231
>the re boxing in Thailand
produced in the uk
thailand doesn't get different boxes

>>96177210
>The reboxing is pretty convincing evidence.
It might be an error, the brand new spearhead still calls them warriors and so does the instruction booklet inside, and aside from that picture, we don't see such a reboxing appearing elsewhere.

We. Don't need. More Elves.
No more books.
No more flavours.
No more Elves.

>>96177132
>>96177150
Thanks for clarifying anons. Leads me to a different question though, were the realms around back when fantasy was happening ? Or is it some uhh time works differently handwaved bullshit ?
>>96177185
That reboxing stuff was pretty weird, since the instructions on the box still referred to them as saurus warriors and not guard. Either way I'm fine with tow getting old lizards back, as I wanted some of those older models. Losing guard would suck but I think they'll probably bring out an updated one soon enough. Spawn of quetzl or some shit probably.
>>96177191
I hope they turn them into a full unit based around this animal theme. Plenty of fun stuff to take inspiration from.
>lion
>stag beetle
>fucking walrus or whatever

>>96177365
We need a lot more crabs and squids though. I think we can all agree on that.

>>96177150
So wait, there's chunk of the old world floating around still...? Does that mean that Sigmar could just scoop up random artifacts or corpses to bring back from the world that was?

>>96177365
4 flavours of elves:
>light, shadow, tree, sea
4 flavours of dwarfs:
>runes, steam, fyre, bull
4 flavours of greenskins:
>brutal, cunning, moon, sun

>>96177356
designed in the UK
made in China

>>96175862
Are any of those cities actually nice places to live? I mean I'm not asking for a Garden of Eden or anything, just some place where people can wake up in the morning with a roof over their head, make an honest living, eat full meals, maybe find some leisure if they have the time and/or money to spare, and at the end of the day they can go to bed and never once had to worry about a giant screaming pimple appearing in the sky and bursting out a horde of gooey cannibal fatsos with their entrails hanging out.

>>96177365
When slaanesh breaks out of the cuck cage in 5e, they are going to want more elves.

>>96177391
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mallus
It's basically just the metallic core of the old planet fantasy took place on, the artefacts and places got thoroughly destroyed. Still had some souls clinging to it or something, and the stormcast mine the metallic core for their armour and weapons, but that's about it.

>>96177426
Aw that's way less exciting, I guess the only way to survive was by being a god, big fancy soul, knowing Sigmar, or being in another realm like Gotrek.

>>96177437
There were pocket dimensions even before end times were a thing, so there were other ways, but uh...age probably gets to you, eventually.

>>96177371
>were the realms around back when fantasy was happening ?
no, they were born as a consequence of the end times according to the plans of the old ones, so perhaps something was already in place, but we can't know.
>Or is it some uhh time works differently handwaved bullshit ?
but also yes, for example in one gotrek book there's a realmgate hidden in tzeentch's realm that connects the mortal realms to the old world before the apocalypse, and he could have stepped back there if he wanted just like that; no instance of a sigmarine appearing back in the old world yet though, but we do have instances of guys surviving the apocalypse and stepping into the realms already fully formed, gotrek himself for example.

>>96177404
no, made in the uk

>>96177437
Not really, so many people ended up at once in the realm of chaos with the apocalypse that demons couldn't hunt them all down, the chances of people surviving running through literal hell and finding a way out was low, but not zero and higher than ever, at the end of the day practically all the races of the old world survived with enough numbers to start reproducing and repopulating the realms.

>>96177474
yeah. The minis.So much packaging comes into the US labeled made in the us that are made in China. No different.

>>96177409
If you're in one of the Ghyran cities you're probably going to have decent food and good health. Beyond that, life in the Realms is tough. Each of them is like a different 40k Death World.

>>96177456
The Gotrek thing bugs me but also it's a Tzeentch thing so the guy could have just been fucking with him but who knows. There was that book where Tzeentch fucked with that one Maurader after killing his whole family saying "I'll take you back to them" only to have him be taken back in time as the chaos spawn that killed his family. I guess realistically it's Warhammer, anything is possible and can be justified but sitll.

>>96177494
The boxes are printed in China, but they are designed in the UK. They don't call up some random Chinese printer and say "hey we need some boxes for some lizard guys. Figure it out!"

They send them the designs and the printing company just prints them.

>>96177409
Hammerhal Ghyra and the Living City are mostly fine. They have their share of problems and they're not free of conflict, but they've not been directly hit by invasions or cataclysms like some other cities have.

>>96177507
it was a realmgate, not a tzeentch thing, tzeentch tried to claim the gate and dragged it in the realm of chaos, but it was guarded by lizards, to not have people go back in time and interfere with the timeline.
but yeah, it was a gimmick made up just to prop gotrek as having made his mind about the realms and accepting them.
written as the sole realmgate of its kind and promptly destroyed in that same book, so all's good, I guess, no sillier shenanigans left open.

>>96177409
>>96177527
>>96177498
Living city and Hammerhal ghyra seem comfy. Hammerhal aqsha and greywater strike me as industrial hellscapes. The other ones seem like variable levels of 'okay' to me. You're basically permanently under siege by random rats and chaos barbarians, but within the walls things seem to be liveable. although I really wouldn't advise taking a trip to tempests' eye right about now...

>>96177544
It would be nice to have the full Gotrek and Felix gang back but I realize that's a pipe dream. (Or a break glass in case AOS shits the bed)

>>96177544
it was definitely a Tzeentch thing, the narrative was all about him not falling for it?

>>96177409
Yllurai Xhen is very nice. :)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/mpWCRLjV/broken-realms-fiction-enlightenment/

>>96177191
It seams to jsut be a quirky thing that makes them stand out

>>96177399
Lmao, people really want 50 armies right?

>>96177618
I'd discount it because of the whole Slaanesh infiltration thing going on there as of late. Standard of living aside, it doesn't feel like a place can fairly be called nice when Synessa & Dexcessa are running a successful insurgency in the city.

>>96177399
>4 flavours of dwarfs
KO and HoH are two

>>96177671
Anon every single one of those is already in the game.

>>96177744
>Dwarf
>Runes
>Greenskins
>Cunning
>Sun
Those are not armies, just side projects

>>96177768
Well yes so you agree that a flavour of elf/dwarf/whatever doesn't necessarily mean a different army, and people aren't asking that. Glad we could sort this out.

>>96177365
They should revamp elves and vampires to differentiate them more. Elves should have bigger tits and vampires should have bigger asses

>>96177833
ok but >>>/vg/twg

>>96177833
Thematically it works better for vampires to have big tits, as a thematic reinforcing of the idea of drinking life out of another

>>96177833
You've watched too much anime, my friend.

>>96177409
from what we've seen in the art and animations, the cities are almost ravnica esque. massive sprawling multi layered cities the size of states, with a lot of verticality as well as area, and you see everything from well off aristocracy to a regular fantasy midtown to shady slums and sewers filled with vampires and skaven

>>96177852
If they made aos smut of vampires I would've posted it. Aos doesn't have secondaries the same way the other IPs do for better or worse.

>>96177874
I don't watch anime, I watch thicc Latina mail carrier ladies bending over and throwing packages in their trucks all day.

>>96177833
the body doesn't matter only what they are wearing.

A thread or two ago an anon was talking about a theory of how teclis might be a sort of divine hallucination of tyrion, which he only saw after gazing into the edge of hysh. Does anybody know what information this theory is based on ? a quick skim of lexicanum doesn't help me much. I know that this is certainly not the mainstream view but I'd still like to see where the anon was going off on. I personally quite like the theory and would like for it to have some ground to stand on.
>>96177863
deepest lore

>Flamekeeper
>Runeson
>Runesmiter
>Runefather on Magmadroth
>Flameseekers
>New armoured ranged kit, wearing masks and pauldrons
This is all that remains of Fyreslayers, who become a digital only mercenary pack with two RoR.
Fluff is Skaven and HoH genocide Fyreslayers and have corrupted Ur Gold. A godlike Fyreslayer (not Gotrek) saved what remains and gave them a quest to find what little uncorrupted Ur Gold remains.
Receives a spearhead but no Magmadroth included.

>>96177880
>ᴬʰ.
*GONG*
>ⱽᶦnᵈᶦᶜᵃʳᵘᵐ.
*GONG*
>ᶜᶦᵗʸ ᵒᶠ ˢᵒnᵍˢ.
*GONG*
>ᴶᵉʷᵉˡ ᵒᶠ ᶜʰᵃᵐᵒn.
*GONG*
>ᴴᵒᵐᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵗʰᵉ ᶜᵉˡᵉˢᵗᶦᵃˡ ⱽᶦnᵈᶦᶜᵃᵗᵒʳˢ.
*GONG*
>ᴴᵒᵐᵉ.
*GONG*

>>96177925
What a horrible outcome...

>>96177925
>get soft squatted
>still get more infantry than idoneth
Would be hilarious desu

>>96178040
They'll probably get expanded in 5e

>>96177612
no, it was legit, the skink said so

>>96178044
Is this the ultimate COPIUM?

>>96177671
counting ALL of the armies I consider fitting for the game, I end up with 10 big soupbooks each with roughly 4 factions, 5 for the 'good' guys and 5 for the 'bad' guys

same number of books for 40k too, they even have neat pairings

>>96178053
What the fuck

>>96177925
>my unlce working at Nintendo told me everything except 5 heroes on foot and Magmadroth squated
>they will recieves a spearhead without Magmadroth btw

FS must die so that they can be replaced by a faction with black dwarf women

>>96178106
.....is that....Wisconsin?

i do not understand this frog

>>96178141
The latest kit added women and had them painted with darker skin and is easily the nicest kit in the range. So yeah, fuck it, bring on the DEIuardin. I'd be happy with that.

Might get the MTO terrain guys but I'm moving house soon.
Does GW allow you to change delivery address after the fact or should I just get it sent to the shop?

>>96178245
i'd send it to the shop. you're not just dealing with your countries post, but it also has to go through the UK post system as well as international customs for both countries. thats a looooot of room for address forwarding to fuck things over if the address changes in the middle of shipping.

>>96178072
I'm wondering how in the hell you reach 40 armies, what new factions are you talking about? I'm also confused with your good/evil dichotomy, is death or destruction considered good here ?

The only totally new (sub)factions I can see coming with any sort of plausability are malerion's elves, kurnothi, drogrukh, vampire coast equivalent and some kind of beastman/gavespawn reboot. After that you gotta dig into silent people or root kings or other esoteric shit. And even from that list I only really consider umbraneth and kurnothi even on the table for the foreseeable future.
>>96178245
I'd just get it sent to the store to be sure, never know with gw.

>>96177925
fake and gay, we never get leaks about fluff for a fucking reason

>>96178420
It could just be because it's a faction pack?

>>96178215
I would pork a chocolate dwarfess

>>96178309
>is death or destruction considered good here ?
no

>book of the ol'world
empire, bretonnia, kislev, mercenaries
>book of the undead
nagashites, sylvania, khemri, deadseas

>book of the far east
cathay, nippon, araby, inds
>book of the tyrants
darkelves, chaosdwarfs, skaven, kureshi

>book of the spheres
stormcasts, crusaders, dragonborn, lizardmen
>book of the daemons
khornates, nurglites, tzeentchian, slaaneshi

>book of the elves
highelves, woodelves, seaelves, eastelves
>book of the wastes
everchosen, darkoath, beastmen, primevals

>book of the dwarfs
royaldwarfs, norsedwarfs, skydwarfs, firedwarfs
>book of the hordes
orcs & goblins, ogres, centaurs

not all factions are equally large, of course, some have way more subfactions in their own meanders than others, but I feel like this spread covers practically everything, and then some
I didn't use the actual names I've decided for some of the new factions because it would raise even more questions (for example I retconned the name seraphon, assigning it to the dragonborn, while lizardmen would go with itzaquatl)

>>96178245
>moving house
I fucking hate this fucking term almost as much as I hate "going hospital" fuck sake. On topic I'd suggest shipping to the store rather than play games with your countries postal system

>>96178586
>Kislev, cathay, khuresh etc
>delfs, skaven and chorfs in the same book
Brother what kind of hyshian quartz are you smoking?

>>96175441
Come on, we don't need to dunk on 40k players every thread

>>>96175193
Oh god, I feel sick

>>96178712
you've been spamming it for months faggot

>>96175862
Har Kuron

>>96178712
>>96178719
spamming that meme without even knowing Natalie Mars is trans is extremely stupid, and then on finding out to pretend to be disgusted is the most bitchmade move ever.

>>96178719
How the fuck am I supposed to know?
I saw a meme and edited it.

>>96178669
I swear it makes sense in my mind
delves, chorfs, skaven and kureshi all have or have had technical connections with chaos but are at the end of the day one step removed from the conventional path to glory and normal aesthetic of the baseline chaos followers, forming their own respective societies of treacherous cunts, and their respective patrons don't truly fit the normal 8fold star of chaos

the east gets its own book so it doesn't have to taint the book of the men of the old world, and so I can make the factions poetic mirrors (empire:cathay, knights:samurai, ice:sand, land of a thousand mercenaries : land of a thousand gods)

plus this way I can pair the east with these evil factions, since the chaos dwarfs aren't that far off on the west of cathay, the snakemen are at the south, the dark elves come raiding the coast from the east, while the skaven also have some asian themes and a history and stretch of the underempire in there

>>96177924
That was me. And there’s really no ground for it lol. I think the anon was asking for the most tinfoil hat theories, so that’s what I responded with. It’s mostly based on the fact that Tyrion did all this searching for any sign of the High Elves, let alone Teclis, to no avail and suddenly he’s magically there when he wakes up after the Spirit of the Perimeter saves him from melting anything else off at the realms edge. Pic related is from the 3e tome.

>>96175385
>Wonder how many of these gw managed to sell.
i bought a bunch, still use them to this day

>>96178760
I don't watch porn, i just saved a meme and changed the text. I legitimately feel violated

>>96178791
>resident gooner doesn't watch porn
how are you fooling? just own it, man hell I would

>>96178791
oh fuck off. Actually man up and be a proper pervert or just fuck off forever.

>>96178780
I have to say I can't see any of these making it to aos much less in the order of those books, but I can respect you for dreaming big.
>>96178790
That's actually really cool anon, did you take them off the original ones, or were they still on the sprue?

>>96178788
I wish they'd bring up how the Aelven gods abandoned the surviving Aelves before GW did.
What a bunch of cunts. If only we got Azyr survivor Aelves in CoS with a grudge instead of the whole idea being silently retconned

>>96178847
That will be a good angle to work at for rebooted CoS elves in the dwindling chance that ever happens.

>>96178870
Would be a good angle*

>>96178812
>>96178818

I used to, but haven't for years. It's pretty bad for you. Case in point, me, not sure if watching so much of it led me down further Degen holes

Goddamnit I got stuff to prime!

>>96175333 (OP)
TQ: Zoggrok's anvil squig is #1, no hesitation

>>96175497
Some WiP immortis i'm painting for a buddy's spearhead. Need to do some metallics on the weapons

>>96178845
>That's actually really cool anon, did you take them off the original ones, or were they still on the sprue?
I bought a lot of extras

>>96178870
Yeah, Sigmar loyalist Aelves have always been interesting. I loved the idea of Anvilgard Loyalists, Aelf and Human fighting against DoK and the traitors
RIP Scourge Privateers
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/FcO4OIJP/broken-realms-the-price-of-treason/

>>96178929
>tomb king OBR
this is a great idea
why did i never think of this before

>>96178946
OBR were originally leaked as a Tomb Kings refresh

>>96178788
Oh thanks anon. Fuck it it's my headcanon now because I like it so much.
I'm actually surprised we haven't seen tyrion at all yet, not even in art. Even malerion has his little dragon form drawing.

>>96178973
No, they absolutely weren't.

>>96178916
Houston we have a problem

>>96178995
Yeah it’s strange to me how we haven’t seen hide nor hair of the two. I mean, on one side it’s good because that means there’s more time to internally flesh out what they want the character to be and not be a 1e style lore abomination. I doubt that Malerion art is even valid anymore since the last time we saw him he was the Hat Man you see when you take too much Benadryl and called his mom a slut.

>>96178995
we have seen tyrion, in a way

>>96179049
and I guess we know he's coming with a phoenix

>>96179021
Yes, they fucking were you lying cunt. Go back through the TGA rumour thread or watch old Warhammer Weekly videos you dishonest cunt
It doesn't mean internally they were intending as much just that whoever saw or heard of them thought as much
These gen is full of the worst mouth breathing newfag retards pretending they were here since day 1

>Joke rules
>Microfactions
>Realm Gate Wars were set in the past before 1st edition
>OBR weren't leaked as Tomb Kings
Gotta love the "pretending you were there" collection of retarded presumptions

>>96179063
>Yes, they were
No, they weren't, you're conflating speculations into leaks, and more or less vague parallels into direct refreshes.

>>96178973
for real though how do you get mogged this badly.

Fyreslayers deserve their time under the sun. I mean if they could destroy and remade Stormcast a faction that even being the posterboi isnt that beloved they should give a chance to Ur-Chads and the opportunity to charm people aftera reboot.

>>96179100
stormcasts hog the starter sets budgets
fyreslayers can't get that treatment unless they start making starters with 4 spearheads instead of 2 slightly larger armies

>>96179081
Anon, it was reliable rumourmongers but suuuure no one posted pictures of OBR sprues or boxes so it wasn't a "leak" and just "rumours"
No one likes an autistic and they like liars less. kys

>>96179036
>>96179060
I hope they do tyrion justice, a blind god of war has some great potential both in fluff and as a model. I also hope they keep the malerion dragon form whatever, even if just a morathi/miao dual form thingy.
>>96179080
>>microfactions
I mean hey these were at least a thing on the webstore for a good edition, very confusing if you didn't know how the game worked back then.

>>96179100
This, just this, the thing killing the range is th baby shitter, but give them proper armour, some Ur-gold stuff, warmachines like Axe thrower and they can be on pair with Kharadrons.

>>96179134
I really thought we'd get a new wave or refreshes given Bael-Grimnir hype in Broken Realms lit but I guess that was irrelevant

>>96179100
you'll be lucky if that dogshit isn't completely flushed down the toilet. They don't have one billionth the love stormcast does. Even retarded Boneshitters and fucking foot sniffing beastmen fans out numbered them by tens and they couldn't survive the squat.

>>96179161
2/900 of their heroes were a push in Warhammer Quest games. They were one of the few AoS unique things at the time though so maybe it was just that there wasn't anything else. They were so early they appeared in the core book

why are dwarfaggots asking for another book when goblinos, a better and charismatic army, has to share one book between sun mongolian gobbos and moon cave dweller gobbos? is this fair?

>>96178748
It's like the one good faction in the game, I wonder how long until GW kills it and how bad it'll be.

>>96179124
>Anon, it was reliable rumourmongers
no, it wasn't, there were no rumors

>>96179185
Gimob just pisses me off. I don't like their rules, I don't like their models, I don't like that they're grouped with GSG.

>>96179196
You weren't there so why are you posting about it? Go watch old Warhammer Weekly videos and hear Tom repeatedly bring up Tomb King rumours. Go trawl the rumour thread.
Your source is just an autistic fit.
>nuh uh
Go kill yourself

>>96179134
I would be down for a vulkyn style refresh. Also magmadroths are by far the best part of their faction.
>warmachine
I had a retarded idea the other day to put their pizza oven on a chariot and kind of make it a mobile flamethrower/ballista with some heavy greenstuffing. Kind of like picrel.
>>96179112
Fyreslayers vs ogres 5e starter set
Naked muscular fire manlets vs naked muscular ice fatties. Trust the plan.

>>96175333 (OP)
My Carnosaur has been the best boy on my current campaign. His head might be proportionally tiny but he’s managed to chomp down with the best of them.

>>96179185
Nobody is asking for another book, just a modest range refresh/expansion for Fyreslayers

>>96179281
A book would be the bare minimum considering they've always had one?

>>96179281
>>96179291
that's the whole problem. they shouldn't, just kill them like goats and bonesplitterz. is time.

>>96179218
The thing about Fyreslayers is that there is so much potential in the lore and existing range. How about a warmachine that's an automata built around a Magmic invocation? The constantly requested juvenile Magmadroth cavalry? Magmahold Militia with shields and magmapike shotguns? Hell, whenever anyone suggested lava artillery people would point out that was a Chorf thing, but the new Chorfs have very different artillery. Magma artillery is on the board for Fyreslayers.

All it would take is a redo of the Berzerkers kit and four or five new kits, that's not a big ask! Please GW, fix Fyreslayers!

>>96179291
yeah but that's not another book, that's the same amount of books as normal

>>96179306
I believe they deserve at least a fair shot with models that aren't garbage. If they still don't work out fair enough. though maybe that's what the warcry warband was for?
>>96179347
Somebody pointed out that this model uses dorghar's skeleton as a base and I can never unsee it. But yeah a magmadroth cav kit seems like the bare minimum if they want to genuinely try with this faction.

>>96179373
I legit don’t see the Dhorgar thing.

I feel like FS and HoH should have been one faction, Fire Dwarfs... or Fire Duardin or Fyre Duardin or Zharrgrim whatever you want to call them.

Fyreslayers are what-if-slayers-but-also-fire. Helsmiths of Hashut are just slight re-imagining of Chaos Dwarfs, industrial dwarfs with fire magic

>>96179356
they're not getting one so I presumed he meant in general

>>96179373
>Somebody pointed out that this model uses dorghar's skeleton as a base and I can never unsee it
I don't think that's the case. The torso is way narrower because it doesn't need space for three heads, for one.

People on this board are way too fast to call CAD reuse on any model that vaguely resembles another model

>>96179470
I'll believe they aren't getting one when I don't see it.

>>96179473
Too general to be true, yeah it's the same if you remove so much
That said endless spells are full of low effort asset copy paste so

>>96179161
>Even retarded Boneshitters and fucking foot sniffing beastmen fans out numbered them by tens and they couldn't survive the squat.
Anon this isn't even close to true, objectively. Fyreslayers are far more popular than both of these armies combined and always were.

>>96179486
holding out to 5th edition launching... cope

>>96179473
It was mainly the pose and some of the detail of the arms I believe.
>>96179521
Bonesplitterz I can see but I think beasts were more popular, although both were at the bottom ofc.

>>96179570
Tournament participants are maybe 10k globally, this shit is beyond irrelevant. 1% of all customers at most if were being generous

>>96179570
depends when, bonesplitters were very popular before 3e when gw made it clear to not play the army, even going out of their way to jack their points up for no reason because they were actually competitive for a minute at the start of the ed despite the plethora of nerfs in the bt.

>>96179570
tournament stats are all over the place depending on which armies are currently strong, here's a recent one from Europe showing Fyreslayers a notch below Ogres and ahead of DoK and KO, for example.

https://www.tabletoptournaments.net/t3_armies.php?cid=0&latest=1&gid=142

the new games worskhop logo is a w f u l

Can a kind anon share the 3rd edition ogor mawtribe book and the BCR book from 1st edition?
Looking for inspiration for my own ogre tribe

>>96178652
OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE THE MAYMAY FROM LE HEYWOAH DISCORD!!!!!!!!!! TROON JANNY APPROVED

>>96178790
And you should, your SC look excellent anon. Great fucking work

>>96179653
She looks like a revenant.

>>96179653
That's a man

So with chorfs being announced I'm finally starting AoS (long time 40k player). I've heard Spearhead works really well as a stepping off point. Can my group all just pick up a faction box and we're pretty much ready to go balance wise?

>>96179217
Nta but Tom had been sperging out about tomb kings and was the IRL version of the settra soonposter since they started warhammer weekly. Also Tom is a literal retard.

>>96179653
why does his face look like it was cut and pasted back on in the wrong spot

>>96179653
Yes I'm sure you made this post to point out the logo which is why it is only taking up 5% of your image

>>96179747
AoS players have a specific phenotype.

In case you haven't seen it in the catalog. Some retard tried to make a thread claiming he was sharing his favorite /tg/ screencaps and 100% of them are his own posts seething about aos. It's quite funny

>>96179791
Lmao. It's so fucking sad. The posts all have such similar formatting styles.

>>96179087

i still don't understand why they released old world at all, did they just have a shit load of Fantasy shit in a wharehouse and decide to sell it? brev imagine buying models that were cast 30 years ago and have been sat in a warehouse this whole time for modern prices

Good news anons! I'm the guy building the shit show gitz army from the last thread. Some guy locally is trading a Loonshrine for 3 Immortis (which I happen to have!)

Now I'm just trying to figure out with to do with Skragrott since I can't find his little cloak squigs. should I just make his float flat on the ground or have a big squig with some green stuff cloak around his tusks?

>>96179134
they dont need armor, we signed up for naked berserkers. they just need better poses, more muscles, and better costumes, which is exactly what we got in the warcry band. cladding them in full plate would not fix them, it would remove their faction identity as slayer berserkers. the warcry band is just as naked as the original ones, its just sculpted much better, which is all we needed

>>96179739
I dunno about balance wise, but yeah that's fine. I think Spearhead needs the little walls of terrain and a board which I think is separate or part of Skaventide if your FLGS has started splitting those boxes. (Mine did for the last few and was selling off bits and bobs for a decent price)

>>96179431
i dont think they could ever really get together in the lore in any significant fashion (apart from the fallen fyreslayer hold who's name i forgot). the fyreslayers and HoH are both god cults fully devoted to a singular ancestor god, and those two ancestor gods fucking H A T E each other

>>96179958
>why
I think there's a very straight line of cause and effect between the commercial success of the Total War: Warhammer franchise and the decision to resurrect Warhammer Fantasy Battles in the form of The Old World. I would be surprised if this was not the case.

>>96179988
I still like the idea of making essentially a second subfaction, establishing the Fyreslayers as we know them as the mercenary aspect of the Magmahold society and having a slightly more normal (although still on fire and less clothed) dwarf aspect being the regular guys and gals who stay home unless called up to defend the Hold or honor an oath or something.

I do agree that full plate would be wrong, but I'd be OK with vests and chest plates. Just keep the arms bare, Fyreslayers need to have the guns out.

>>96180001
i think its somewhat total war, but more likely them trying to catch the horus heresy lightning in a bottle a second time

>>96180009
i just dont think thats the way. the whole point of fyreslayers is that they hammer magical runes into their flesh so they dont need armor, they are super sayan dwarven demigods.

armored dwarves have more place in HoH or a disposessed refresh

>>96180001
>>96180013
It's multiple things. Total War proved the setting still had a lot of appeal and they knew grog tempers had cooled enough that if they brought it back the response would be more "oh shit I always wanted that kit" than "fuck you GW I will never forgive you!"

But most importantly, they knew AoS had established itself. AoS players were AoS players, not just Fantasy players making the best of it. It had an established setting, tone, model range(mostly) and community completely divorced from Fantasy. It was also way more successful than Fantasy ever was. It had become a second (albeit much smaller) tentpole alongside 40k. So it was safe to bring back Fantasy. If TOW was a hit, if TOW flopped, if TOW was just a lowburn Specialist Games project alongside Necromunda, whatever, AoS would stand strong no matter what.

Some of you might not have the Warhammer Age of Sigmar Soulbound Champions of Chaos PDF.

>>96180093
Nope I don't.

>>96179087
It’s easy you see one is newer and the other are tomb kings

>>96180093
They said just last week that it won't be out for months.

>>96179739
You can get a spearhead each and yes they’ll be pretty well balanced. I would try to get the older 1st wave (the same ones that used to be called vanguard) since the new spearhead boxes are good and thematic but a bit too thematic IMO. For example, the new khorne spearhead is dog themed where the original spearhead had cavalry, blood warriors, and chaff + a hero. The new one is like 8 dogs with a war cry warband.

I think you can get the spearhead terrain and paper map with the obj on them + tactic and command cards pretty cheap. I’m not sure how much of it was included in skaventide but people who are selling the contents are definitely pulling their hair out trying to offload the non-plastic parts of that box.

You can also get the gaming packs for everything you need. The terrain is easy to proxy with paint pots or cardboard. There’s the fire and had pack and the sand and bone pack. Every spearhead has their rules for free on the warhammer community website

>>96179087
mortek guard would have been much better if they were like 20% larger and all had the helmets you see on the champion.

tombs kings arent awful, but overall i prefer the bonereapers aesthetic

>>96180178
So on average how long is GW cycling through artists? every 5 years? GW really need to hire dedicated artists and stop using them like rags. 40ks early codexes were just copy and pasted but worse early on, or just straight up bad.

>>96179690
Just a bump

Guys is there an image or pdf available of the new points values for khorne?

>>96180231
Whatever is on Warcom are the points.

*mogs your new release*

what are the central powers for each of the mortal realms? I think chamon has khadrons as their big players, shyish is obviously just the death megahub, lumineth has hysh, what about the rest?

>>96180823
Aqshy was Humans vs Chaos until Skaven showed up, now I guess it's a three corner contest?

Ghyran had Alarielle, obviously, although Nurgle is dug in pretty deep too.

Ulgu is Morathi, maybe Malerion if GW ever decides to give them an army

Ghur is Ironjawz and Ogors

Do you think this works as a marshal on gryphon? It's definitely too big and Winged for a cavalier marshal. Here it is on the gryphon size base, doesn't quite fill it up the same as the normal gryphon model but it doesn't seem crazy small

>>96180864
A shugengan lord of great spirit longma.

>>96180864
I would say check the height, if it's about the same height then you're fine.

If you want it to fill out the base more, just add more shit on the base. Add a little scene like he's standing over some slain Chaos Warriors, find a little dragon dog toy you can add as a Gargoylian, take somebody off the Lantern kit and have him as a herald or adviser or squire or whatever. Whatever works for your vision for the army and this character

How often should I be having to refill my brush while painting? It feels like I can hardly get anywhere before I'm painting with a barely damp brush on a model and need to go back for more paint. It makes base coating a nightmare and take me forever.

>>96180054
I hope we never get any video games that are slightly worth playing so we can continue to avoid the tourist hell of 40k that is secondaries telling you that you're hobbying wrong

>>96180093
What is it with you retards lately asking for things that aren't released yet. Would it kill you to Google when something comes out instead of relying on 4chan to spoonfeed you?

>>96180032
The issue with Fyreslayers is how the army plays.
Their point is to be overpowered berserks, for Fyreslayers to work, they need to change them into something more similar to the new Gorechosen AoR for Khorne, and give a generic almost-Gotrek level dude, so that the army is mostly heroes and a couple units to control objectives

>>96181294
I don't think anyone wants that. The regular Berzerkers are made superduardinly strong and resilient by their runes, but not, like, to a crazy extent. They are significantly stronger than the Arkanaut Company, which works as a baseline for regular Duardin in the Realms.

I think what we generally want from Fyrslayers is a melee-focused, fairly elite Duardin army. Which they are. What they need is a few more options and a kit for their basic infantry that isn't absolute dogshit.

>>96181374
even if they were elite it wouldnt change the fact that they are so SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

>>96181386
yeah they need a cavalry unit or two.

>>96181133
This is unironically one of AoS' biggest strengths. As it stands, if secondaries turn up it's only to shit on the setting for not being the same as their favorite video games, and then they fuck off. Extremely effective passive gatekeeping.

>>96179690
>3rd edition ogor mawtribe book
files<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash bgnhlk<dot>pdf
>BCR book from 1st edition?
litter.catbox.moe/2v132xurmded25lz.pdf

>>96179967
The only reason I own mine is because I got lucky with ebay.

Maybe in your case you could go apeshit with basing decorations, where stalagmites, weird growths, and mushrooms are just everywhere to frame the guy and be places where the cape could rest on top of. I like the idea of a big tusk squig, but I'd fear that the base size would make it look too busy and be hard to set up behind him.

Any of you used alex wargames1 before? I fucked up and lost the shoulder pauldron to Ushoran

>>96180231
You know battletomes just have QR codes leading to GW's site, right?

>>96179217
>You weren't there
Yes, I was, there were no rumors, only people having speculations and wishlists from the teaser videos gw had about this new army.

>>96182179
NTA but I remember people trying to figure out who Vokmortian was and had some crazy stretches about him being like one of Settra's named lieutenants or some shit because of the silhouette of a scorpion symbol or something like that. Not to mention people trying to cross reference Katakros's dialogue.

>>96179217
>Go watch old Warhammer Weekly videos and hear Tom repeatedly bring up Tomb King rumours
https://www.youtube.com/live/Zcm14wfjK2Q
this is the video before the nova reveal that showed the ossiarchs, they're only talking about the teaser videos gw had at the time, no rumors, no leaks, only "I think...", "I guess...", "I imagine...", "maybe..."

>wake up
>thread again full of non Fyreslayers players telling GW what the army I like should be changed to
>unironic use of reddit phrases like "This, just this!"
Disgusting.

>>96182360
>people telling you what it would take to want to collect the most unpopular army in the game
Is more right

>>96182360
I see you posting artwork, but not your fyrbabies

>>96175420
>trees that naturalized to the urban life and dress up like city slickers

>>96182376
Well fuck them, they still wouldn't buy the army and I like it right now.
>>96182380
You don't deserve them.

>>96182360
How does it feel that fucking Cathay in old world has a bigger range than you

>>96182386
>You don't deserve them.
nta but you need to try harder to convince anyone

>>96179210
The Gloomspite have lore which fits the epic scale of AoS, Gitmob don't

>>96182393
You realy underestimate how many foot heroes Fyreslayers have

>>96182393
Slayers are exactly what they need to be. No need to scrape the bottom of the barrel. I've seen your ideas for new units and they all suck and miss the point.

>>96175333 (OP)
That looks great. The little guy might just be my favourite AoS model.

>>96182409
>Slayers are exactly what they need to be
ugly, stiff, symmetrical and not getting a battletome?

man, it's sad when the only defender for fyreslayers is a falseflagging shitposter that actually wants them to be deleted

>>96182424
I'll take deletion over having busybody third parties dictate what my army should be.

>>96182405
Foot heroes don’t constitute a faction

>>96179578
>>96179631
Good thing those aren't tournament stats then. not like a survey with less than a thousand responses is much better, but still.

Does anyone know good proxies or STL’s for khorne bloodreavers? The current kit is really derpy and squat in terms of poses, so I’d rather not pay full price for them.

I’m already gonna use red chaos warriors in place of blood warriors. Are dark oath cheap to get secondhand?

>>96182436
you don't have any fyraslayers, no need to keep pretending

>>96182436
then you'll take deletion and everyone else will take a better faction
it's a win-win situation

>>96182458
Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

>>96182415
There should be more weird hecking borklers and idgaf if it's reddit

>>96182451
use the ETB reavers instead of the multipart ones

>>96179791
I thought you were exaggerating but no, the first half of that post is 100% just screencaps seething about aos. Not even funny classics from 2018 or whatever, just straight up shit from 4 days ago with maybe two replies each. including the retard who tried to claim there's no evidence for whfb selling poorly and the end times/aos were just an out of control marketing stunt Very strange post.
>>96180823
>aqshy
CoS, stormies, chaos (mainly khorne), fyreslayers and recently skaven
>ghyran
Sylvaneth, nurgle, main idoneth city
>ghur
Destruction galore, some humans. Chorfs too surprisingly.
>chamon
Mainly kharadron and tzeentch, gitz capital is there too
>hysh
Main loomie realm, little bit of slaanesh and recently gitmob
>ulgu
Ruled by malerion but he's still in the shed so mainly DoK right now, also misthavn
>shyish
Death galore
>azyr
Not allowed to have fun, but basically to order what ghur and shyish are to destruction and death. Also lizards are connected to it, even if they don't live there.
That being said every race is present in every realm (except azyr ofc) to some extent but those are the main conflicts I can come up with.

>>96180823
chamon is dominated by tzeentch way more than the kharadrons, they went up in the sky specifically because they couldn't deal with the forces of chaos on the ground

>>96180841
>Ulgu is Morathi, maybe Malerion
Malerion controls 12 out of the 13 realms of ulgu, the 13th is in the hands of morathi but only because malerion gave it to her, he's pretty much the dominant force of the realm, even if we still don't have his model or faction.

>>96182555
>Also lizards are connected to it, even if they don't live there.
Many lizardmen are still starborne, they live as fleets-constellations in high azyr.

>>96179791
Dude I was fucking howling, that shit was the wildest self report.

>>96182567
How does azyr even work exactly, it being the stars and shit. All other realms (except maybe hysh) are pretty straightforward cosmologically speaking but azyr is fucking weird to me. Do we have maps of the place ?
>>96182641
Baffling thread.

>>96179791
I really don't understand how someone could be so deep in the consolewar mentality about it, especially when they haven't touched either game?

>>96180864
Awesome.

>>96182763
>How does azyr even work exactly
the short answer is: gw didn't think about it, so you shouldn't think about it either

the long answer is: the realms are as much physical places that move in the void and that you can see with the naked eye like one would see planets in the sky as they are weird magical condensates that look like physical places but that otherwise defy time and space and what used to be the laws of reality, azyr might appear as large as as the cosmos itself despite being as big as any other realm, plus back in the old world azyr was connected with clairvoyance through the reading of the stars because the magical wind would distort the path of light coming from distant constellations and making them appear in a different position in the sky of the old world, so if you had a telescope and knew where the constellations are actually supposed to be you can observe where they appear to be at a given moment, calculate the distortion of the wind of azyr and thus its fluxes and movements and thus get magic insights about all kinds of stuff, so it's very much possible that azyr is a normal realm, but that its constellations appear as the night sky for everyone due to the distorting effect of azyr magic

the short version of the long answer is: pic related

>>96182763
I assume Azyr is just a loose connection of planetoids and comets rather than 1 disc like other 7

>>96182820
>>96182862
The way the lexicanum describes it I get the sense that it's almost like a mini-galaxy, with little mini realms functioning as small planets where a large part of the population lives. It's certainly the most "out there" of the realms in terms of how it's composed, compared to the relatively simple flat discs of aqshy, ghur, etc.

>Excelsis pogroms against Aelves
Is it canon that the upcoming squatting of Duardin and Aelves in CoS is due to such? Grim.

>>96182923
>Is it canon that the upcoming squatting of Duardin and Aelves in CoS is due to such?
no

>>96181566
Thanks anon!

>>96182360
What would you like to see anon?

>>96182763
dracothion is the realm

>>96182970
where'd they go then?

>>96182982
I don't need new units. Sometimes things are fine as is.

>>96183052
I love Fyreslayers but please do not release more of them. I'm a super fan but god please no more releases! How about we skip the battletome this edition too, getting a little tired of having options

>>96183027
nowhere. they're just random groups that're part of the cities of sigmar but not formally integrated into their military structure. There's aelven and duardin freeguilders, etc

>>96183066
Yes. I don't always need new thing. Slayers are cool as is.
If I want to buy shiny new shit I'll buy into other armies or systems.

>>96183068
what's the explanation for suddenly purging them for the military, though?

>>96183093
The imperial Creed demanded that there be no xenos in the Imperial Guard.

>>96183027
Officially they've just been absorbed by the new Aelves. Phoenix Temple joined LRL in Dawnbringers finale and Wanderers have shifted to Sylvaneth with the lamenteri blessed Kurnothi eventually replacing the unblessed. DoK will absorb Delf leftovers with Krethusa or Malerion.
Dispossessed have just been shifted towards background roles: Ironweld artillery masters in the context of humans overwhelming dominating the institution, Barkeeps, Merchants and Plumbers. They're rare and not in roles that'd see battle.

>>96183052
>>96183082
>bro I love fyreslayers bro no they shouldn't have more than 3 non hero kits bro I love having my entire army look the same bro
>no I won't post any models
Anon can you blame us for not taking you seriously until you post at least an axe or something.

>>96183148
This shitter has been around for years crying that Fyreslayers should never ever get new units, he's 100% not worth engaging with.

As someone who for real loves my Fyreslayers I hope they get a lot of stuff.

>>96183148
I'm sorry your consoomer mind can't comprehend the stance of the humble Collector.

As someone who does not care for Fyreslayers at all I still hope they get something nice.
The existence of HoH is just going to further limit their scope they can expand their identity into though.

>>96183176
May your whole army be sent to legends and never be reprinted then

>>96183180
How? They have very little thematic overlap

>>96183190
And it'll stay that way? SCE have griffons and gryphs, CoS have horses and a manticore. I don't think GW wants overlap nowadays

>>96183186
Not happening.

>>96178871
>screencap thread
>90% of it is a guy screencapping his own anti-AoS rants
This is seriously fucking grim.

>>96183202
Actual mental illness. Why are people so mindbroken over aos anyway, I don't get it

>>96183093
youre responding to a message saying they aren't part of the formal military structure, many of them have never been and just sort of akin to community militias, but the castelite formations are the 'official' military doctrines now and they just conform to those in their service. A steelhelm doesnt have to be a human, there's aelven and duardin ones mentioned in shit like the tahlia vedra novel

>>96183114
none of this is true, ignore it. Wanderers are not kurnothi, the LRL did not absorb the Phoenix Temple and ironweld are specifically a duardin dominated institution even though there's a lot of humans in it too. This is purely this anon talking out of their ass and maybe misunderstanding kurnothi/LRL as the 'replacements' to wood/high elf aesthetics

>>96183207
Tribalism. He had a passing interest in WHF from secondary sources that led him to the "they killed WHF for joke rules" crowd, then hating a system he's never played became his identity because he feels a sense of community by crying about it

>>96183213
>the LRL did not absorb the Phoenix Temple
They literally did take the sacred flame from the last Phoenix Temple, though.

>>96183207
It's very easy to hate AoS as a secondary, you just have to repeat the opinions of youtubers and other secondaries to fit in.

The ratio of actual grogs who still give a shit vs LARPERs is insanely skewed towards the second group at this point, it's safe to assume anyone still fuming about AoS has never played warhammer in their lives.

>>96183213
>Wanderers are not kurnothi
Ignoring every piece of fluff we have for them?
>LRL did not absorb the Phoenix Temple
Read Dawnbringers.
Stop lying. Your headcanon is irrelevant.

>>96183093
it's a retcon, not a development, they never had that much of a presence

I hate this community so much.

>>96183223
and they show how Lumineth ARE phoenix temple Aelves in the first place. They left Lumineth society

>>96183180
the less focus on fire, the better the faction gets

>>96183251
The whole point of the faction is fire.

>>96183207
i actually think it's gotten worse since TOW came out hilariously

>>96183248
I think it's fundamentally a secondary/nonparticipatory thing but yes the youtube warhammer stuff is particularly bad. Consume drama and manufacture the next drama etc.

>it's yet another "wah the TOW players are bullying us in my head again!" pity party
So tiresome.

How good/bad is Underworld these days? Fun? Shit?
I've got my eye on Grandfather's Gardeners, those sexy, gross models call to me.

>>96183260
Nah at least on /tg/ it was worse in the late '10s and early '20s.

>>96183265
>literally one leg of an AoS model is revealed
>thread and board is spammed for a full week of AoS hate
>clear evidence spammers are mentally ill schizos
No I will continue to mock and bitch, thank you. These people belong in an asylum.

>>96183265
>TOW players
No one is saying that, the seething is from people who never played any version of Warhammer.

>>96183248
Who cares about grifters?

>>96183196
The slingshields are pretty cool at least, they should lean into that.
>>96183207
Full disclosure I only got into aos in like 2017 so I wasn't there for the primo screeching but over the years I learned that it basically boils down to :
-fantasy grogs that got their game and setting nuked for something wildly different (the only ones on this list that have a valid excuse desu)
-twwh zoomies who learned the setting of their new favourite game got blown up and karl franz and all their other epic characters (that no one previously cared about) died, got told about the joke rules etc by the grogs and have been seething ever since
-40k culture warrior tourists spilling over
-40keks mad that aos is taking up valuable release windows that could be used for a new primaris lieutenant instead (this one has a new mark LXV shoulderpad and two more purity seals on his gun)
-40keks that were "going to start a fantasy army any day now but they killed it before I got a chance!"
-for this board specifically there's a ton of seething about everything "new" generally and aos is the "new" to fantasy's "old", even if they never bothered with warhammer in the first place.
Aos seething used to be pretty widespread but imo it's telling that nowadays it's basically been relegated to this place, select boomer facebook groups, and 40k lore sloptuber comment sections. The only "mainstream" place you'll find consistent aos seething is the total war subreddit lol, and even there they're starting to move on.

>>96183281
>for this board specifically there's a ton of seething about everything "new" generally and aos is the "new" to fantasy's "old", even if they never bothered with warhammer in the first place.
This is really obviously forced, and funnier when anything old-school styled comes out from the wrong people and so much also be hated.

>>96183281
The Empire focus from TWWheads is especially jarring because KF was never the "main" character of actual WHFB the wargame in the same way he has been adopted as much by the TWW community. Now part of that is probably just Empire were much less fun to play on the table than they are in TWW too.

>>96183267
Is that UW rulebook scan hoarder around? I'm curious to look at past editions
Cheers in advance

>>96182475
I’m pretty sure those have gone the way of Start Collecting!

They’ve either been bought up and built or sitting in some 39 year old dad’s mountain of shame along with dark vengeance and the KO Christmas battle force

Unless there’s a flood of them still on eBay for some reason that I’m unaware of

>>96183324
Anon, what're you smoking?

>>96183319
Great kitbash anon, simple but great.
Always liked the ridiculous oversized bell on the blightkings

>>96183334
>be Khorne player
>been buying the same SC box for ten years, since day 1
>it outlives the poster boys that launched the setting
>It survives the main model of it getting removed in the fluff

>>96183319
Sick putty work dude, I’m especially excited to see that tentancles mini in the back when they’re all done

Nurgle comes with so many extra dope heads and bits but I’m too lazy and hobbylet to try and attach them where it would take effort on my part. Nurgle really leans into the asymmetry and with every (mortal) kit having no two dudes that look the same you can really make them look like a motley band of raiders and travelers with their own story and name like Farticus Queefmaw or something

>>96183259
no, the whole point is being dwarf slayers, fire is a cherry on top

>>96183334
Oh my bad. I have seen that kit actually and I was considering it. Between that, the RoR and finding good STL rips or proxies it’s become kind of a side project.

When you said ETB I looked them up and saw there’s a literal ETB box of bloodreavers independent from the Khul bundle.

>>96183318
TWW in general massively skewed people's perceptions of Fantasy to be all about these larger than life superheroes and their epic stories.

Whereas in reality most of the Special Characters in fantasy were shitters with no official model and one paragraph of lore somewhere. You did have some big, important characters with a lot of attention from novels and such but they were mostly nonhumans like Elves and Vampires and shit. The "faction leaders" were mostly people like Franz that just existed as background political figures that didn't matter much at all.

Also yeah, not many people even played Empire. The popular armies were more or less Chaos, High Elves, Skaven, and Vampires.

>>96183377
They're the two pillars of the faction, guess you can call magmadroths the third, but they're part of fire too.
It's literally the name, it couldn't be more obvious.

>>96183383
>nobody played empire
>popular armies are Skaven, chaos, helves and dwarfs
>my LGS is full of empire stuff and a couple helf kits

Why did nobody play empire? Are skinny white dudes in striped hose not appealing or something,?

>>96182405
fyreslayers need an AoR like the one khorne just got.

>>96183324
Anon they re-released the 1e Khorne starter for the aniversary

>>96183247
What?

>>96183393
It literally does. With magmadroths and all.

>>96183393
What Fyreslayers need is a full revamp. Pople hate the naked baby style, is a fact and it doesnt help that horrible simmetry they are made with.

>>96183052
For the record I'm the anon who asked you and not the anons giving sarcastic replies.
I suppose it feels nice to be content with a range. And for all the memes on fyreslayers, the magmadroth remains one the best monsters ever released by GW.

>>96183383
>>96183392
I wouldn't say nobody played them, they weren't the overwhelming favourite they are in twwh but they were probably around top 5 - ish
Chaos probably being nr 1, being very elite and thus cheap to collect and east to paint. Other popular armies were high and dark elves, dorfs and vamps, at least in my area. Seems to line up pretty well with the rest of the world from what I heard.
>>96183393
>>96183411
They got one that's basically :
>magmadroths
>the characters you get in the magmadroth box that you can also run on foot
>warcry warband
Don't know how good it is but it certainly exists.

>>96183386
>They're the two pillars of the faction
No, they aren't, you can have the faction without 'droths and it still works, you can have the faction without the fire theme and it still works, the only thing you can't remove is them being dwarf berserkers.
names aren't definitions, they're names, flanderising the faction around fire is a sure way to kill any creative option for it, just as much as it would be to flanderise their looks and culture exclusively around what a dwarf slayer was in the old world.

>>96183392
They were really not fun to play in 6th, at least. They probably improved with the bonuses to big infantry blocks in 7th and 8th, but 7th was kind of a DOA edition because of how just how powerful the DoC, VC and DE books were written.

6e Tomb Kings was peak Warhammer Fantasy for me personally, although they were very much not a popular faction. Fast cavalry chariots and the way their magic worked was just really rewarding to play.

>>96183459
Dumbest opinion of the year award.
They're literally covered in Aqshy bling. Every other weapon has fire in it. All their not!magic uses fire. They live in things literally Called MAGMAholds.

>>96183393
You're so fucking right.

>>96183468
>Aqshy bling
they don't wear keys because of aqshy
they wear keys because of their own culture, the association between aqshy and keys is a meta one
>Every other weapon has fire in it
and that actively reduces the scope of the faction
>All their not!magic uses fire
and all stormcasts shit is themed around thunders and lightnings yet they're perfectly capable of having more than just that and being themed in ways beyond that, if we follow you slayers aren't and shouldn't be
>They live in things literally Called MAGMAholds.
turns out volcanoes don't exist only in aqshy or only in the one

I'm not saying fire shouldn't be a design element in the faction, nor I'm saying that magmadroths shouldn't be, what I'm saying is that factions are to be designed in ways that fosters creativity, not limits it, the autistic fixation on just one element, or just one hairstyle, or just one animal, or just one enemy, or just one story, or just one whatever, kills the faction
all the best factions have become the best because they're fertile soil for further elaborations on their selves, while you want fyreslayers to get conceptually inbred to death because you don't know shit or are schizophrenically defensive

Not even gonna read this. I know it's wrong and dumb.

>>96183223
Abraxia ate the sacred flame, the LRL twins stole a tiny spark of it to justify whatever phoenix theme units they get in their next wave and show it lives on

>>96183250
This isn't true, you've just misremembered that the High Anointed of the temple in the phoenicium was a lumineth before joining the temple. They're made up of aelves of all origins, who join up after they're left mortally wounded and reborn in the flames of a phoenix within a temple's sacred pyre.

>>96183240
There is literally not a single piece of fluff that implies or says kurnothi aelves are wanderers, in fact everything we know about them is the opposite? They were decimated in the age of chaos which is why they're so isolated and only really show themselves to sylvaneth, unlike wanderers who're defined by having left ghyran to escape the age of chaos and many sylvaneth having not forgiven them for it. You could argue some of the clans that became wanderers could've originally been kurnothi, but they have a very different culture from the few bits of fluff that've been shown off

>Read Dawnbringers.
See above, either you need to read it or you're misremembering it

>>96183524
>or only in the one
environment they're depicted without fail

>>96183411
>With magmadroths and all.
So not like Khorne.
Khorne has Gorechosen foot heroes smashing everything, not big monsters

>>96183339
>>96183363
not mine but I hope the owner feels a tingle or something

>>96183524
are you that one anon who periodically screeches about how fyreslayers should incroporate other elements, or are there now multiple people who'd try to argue idoneth cant be sea themed or chaos dwarves need wood because metal and fire are too narrow

>>96183544
tards on here will argue about everything, see the guy clamining stormhosts aren't based on chapters at the tail end of the last thread. Now we got a guy claiming akshually fyreslayers have nothing to do with fyre.I'm going to put together a bingo one of these days

>>96183354
>be khorne player
>both of us buy the launch box
>unsold sprues sit in warehouse for 10 years

>>96183609
Tbh at least the guy arguing about stormhosts got that they’re a lot more interesting and varied than chapters to the point I can get seeing the differences before the similarities with how they exist now. The fyreslayer thing is just silly, especially when they are all have realm themed lodges that incorporate other themes while still being fire based

>>96183544
gw has made a significant choice in not depicting the fire of the chaos dwarfs in a way that would pigeonhole them too into being automatically fixated on that element
that green makes for a terrible colour scheme, but makes for a great statement about them not being fire fetishists, but rather demonsmiths


and idoneth aren't water themed, they're sea themed, there's a world of designs and themes they make use of, instead of being chained down by the element alone like fyreslayers do
it's the same difference between an actual culture and between a pokémon

This is the kind of autism you see in 40kg. Well, not the deep end kind of autism that can be found there, but it’s a hint of it.

>>96183609
you're still so fucking asshurt over being wrong you bring it up randomly a thread later, lol seethe more faggot.

>>96183651
>This is the kind of autism you see in 40kg.
It really isn't, no.

>>96183645
Are stormcast lightning themed

>>96183707
yes, but not even remotely as much as fyreslayers are fire themed, the motif of lightnings is in their name, their iconography and their fluff in multiple ways.

>>96183530
>was a lumineth before joining the temple
Exactly?
>There is literally not a single piece of fluff that implies or says kurnothi aelves are wanderers
How about the one story we got before Cursed City? The Beastgrave rulebook?
Anon, if you don't know shit the correct stance to take to ask not argue. You are a fucking clown, stop posting

>>96183267
New edition rules are shit(no magic, no glory economy, way less complex deck building, way less complex warband rules, etc). No faction deck and units cards makes the new edition extremely bland and soulless.
Most of the new warbands are cool tho, you can pick them and probably play the old edition with them.

>>96183726
>Exactly?
this is the resident autist. it's better to ignore him. he'll argue lrl didn't absorb phoenix temple even if they get new phoenix temple units because they literally did not get the old phoenix temple units now sold for TOW

>>96183530
>unlike wanderers who're defined by having left ghyran to escape the age of chaos
basically the only kurnothi we know of are from Ghur and Shyish. you are so full of shit

>>96183643
I actually agree that gw has made deliberate attempts to differentiate stormies from space marines over the years, but in 1st edition they were pretty obviously ported over. strikings/foundings, chambers/companies, lord commanders/chapter masters, lord celestants/captains... stormhosts were/(are?) just chapters.
>>96183672
I'm not one of the guys arguing with you, though I was the guy who originally posted the upgrade sprues. That reminds me, outside of stormies and marines has any subfaction ever gotten an upgrade sprue ? some guard regiments maybe ? I'm sorry anon but this is the stupidest hill to die on.

>>96183797
Stormcast are based on chaos warriors, literally in the lore they are order copies of chaos warriors as a response to getting their shit pushed in. There is absolutely nothing unnatural or forced whatsoever about their existence in the setting. I will die on this hill because its a retarded conclusion. They have nothing to do with space marines otuside of being chunky and easy to paint, wow what copies. They have subfactions like literally every single army, must be space marine chapters. I guess craftworlds are space marine chapters too.

>>96183820
Ah, you're the order chaos warriors schizo, I understand now.

>>96183820
Anon we're talking about a meta perspective, not an in universe fluff one ? I don't think stormies are forced even if I personally am not their biggest fan.
>craftworlds
Wake me up when they start selling biel-tan or ulthwé upgrade sprues.

>>96183820
>Stormcast are based on chaos warriors
in setting, not in real life, in real life stormcasts are based on space marines, they're uniform, with conveniently coded shoulders, and with an emphasis on sequential foundings/strikings and groups having their respective flaw, made in large legions to retake the cosmos for a god-ruler
blanche was explicit in saying the goal of the stormcast project was to make space marines for fantasy, and not chaos warriors of order, and in practically all promo materials the two are presented as mirrors

if stormcasts were chaos warriors of order then the emphasis would be on the individual's own deeds, the path to glory, not on the chambers/chapters and on their extreme uniformity, which is so heavy handed it goes against their own fluff

>>96183909
Space Marines are based on chaos warriors dude

>>96184015
not really, they were space barbarians and more broadly SF marines but obviously chaos marines are just space CW

>>96184015
that doesn't make stormcasts based on chaos warriors any more than you can say birds evolved from fish
it's technically correct, but misses the reality of things

Bros…our favorite anti ToW channel is making fun of us…

>>96184049
Clickbait, that's not what they say in the video

>>96184049

>>96184049
I've seen people post these guys all the time during consolewars but I've never bothered to watch a video of theirs and never will. Are they as obnoxious as they look ?

>>96184116
God I hate jewtubers so much it's unreal.

>>96184147
With the current state of youtube you need to be an actual retard to watch popular sloptubers

>>96184165
>popular
>780 views

>>96184165
originally they offered insight into the financials of their moderate LGS store, logistics with GW, etc but now they just offer their opinions on everything I guess - a week after relevancy too

>>96184049
Real question, why you come here and post this two fuckers as someone should give a shit? Are you maybe one of those unknown fuckers or you are just some of the endless retarded trolls around here?

RIP BOZO PACKWATCH
BONE SPLITTAZ: DEAD AND SOME GAYBOI MADE A CRYBABY ARTICLE OVER IT
FATCASTS: DEAD
BRITS INTERNET: DEAD
FYRESLAYERS: I HOPE
SPIDER FUCKS: SOON TOO!
NON-HUMAN COS: ON DEATH ROW!

>>96184049
The comments on this actual video of people who clearly did not watch the video at all are pretty funny.

>>96184417
Yeah at the end of the day clickbait just works. Slap some inflammatory title on whatever video you make and watch people click on it just to come and argue with you in thr video.

>>96184070
is it clickbait or mocking clickbaiters?

>>96183909
>extreme uniformity
yes such a group of extreme individualist we have here.

>>96184049
their titles are intentional ragebait and they usually say as much in the opening of the video. its almost always the exact opposite of what they actually think in the video too.

>>96184116
they're alright, not that obnoxious though the guy in the red shirt does often seem like he's had 1 too many coffees. they run a successful hobby shop up in canada, both are also former GW storefront employees/managers who also worked with GMG which is kinda how they got their start on youtube by being guests on his show talking about the business side of GW. most of their videos revolve around how well GW products did or did not sell in their store, and how the reality they see on their shelves compares to online perception and memes. most of their takes are pretty sensible and despite the video titles to rope in clicks, they are in fact big fans of pretty much all of GWs games. both have played aos extensively, and while i think they're not hot on the new edition, at least one of them has a bunch of armies for aos

>>96175605
Its almost definetly a 40k thing, simply because of the 2nd levels inside the buildings, and im yet to see anyone in AoS use the transparent outlines fro building footprints

>>96177490
>not enough demons in hell to make hell work
Thats kinda dumb, I always though that demons were the least dangerous thing from hell and it was the immaterial rules of the hell tha were actually dangerous.

>>96184269
I still don't know why they had to die considering the sorry state of orruks that in 40k are one of the most popular armies and here have to share a book with Mordor faggits but i can agree with you about the rest.

>>96184695
Look at this then the crazy ass shit 40k orks get. It's not rokkit science, git.

>>96184714
Excuse me? Orks got that weird 4 legged squigs and savage shitters too...

>>96184695
GW has a bad habit of not supporting model ranges because they arent selling well, but not having the self awareness to realize its not selling well because its not being supported.

that said kruleboyz blow even the best bonesplitterz out of the water, so it was the right call making them, i just wish their range wasnt swiss cheese

i have this weird theory where every single idiot asking for full human cos is a grog butthurted

>>96184788
Every single idiot asking for a full human cos, is a 40k IG retard

>>96184788
Have there even been a case, of an actually CoS player, shilling the mono-human bullshit? I dont know any

>>96184788
probably. i dont know any cities player who's happy about seeing the elves and dwarfs go. i do know a couple players who are quite sad about their coalition sylvaneth or stormcast no longer being a thing, and a phoenicium player who quit the game after they deleted his army.

>>96184842
NTA, happens on here more times than I can count.

>>96184842
Why is it bullshit, dwarfs are only wanted because the other options for them are weird off shoots. The elves still in cities blatantly don't even belong there.

>>96184788
>>96184816
>>96184842
>>96184844
There's not one dwarf or elf fan who wants dwarfs or elves chained down in cities, let alone integrated into cities.

>>96184788
>>96184816
>>96184842
>>96184844
Explain to me faggots why is a good thing have Dispossesed or Dark elfs rotting in Cities of Sigmar, an army that will never support such factions and that will keep getting stuff non related to them like Cogshit. Try to make any sense.

>>96184816
GW are the ones who chose to go full human in their big refresh.

>>96184842
I mean hfy (usually) attracts a really dumb audience so who knows.

CoS attracted people who played specific microfactions that got trapped in it. Literally no one liked the globohomo aspect of it.

>>96184953
Because they look better on circles and we used to have druid dwarves.

>>96185084
In 2e it was great. 3e made the army racially keyword locked and 4e is only a step back because of abstraction
If GW let me Hurricanums grant +1 to hit for everything I'd go mixed

>>96185084
The jolly cooperation is like the one unique part, beside maybe the early renaissance aesthetic. Take that away and they're just generic fantasy human kingdom faction (even more so than they already are)

>entire setting since day 1 revolves around Azyr survivors
>first real glimpses at legitimate world building was the season of war and Firestorm which directly related to the cooperation and homogeneity of Azyrheim refugees
>hurr durr no one wants that
Then they don't want AoS. Play another game

>>96185187
its a bunch of highly unique cities, its only "generic" because it needs one generic model range for all of them.

why none of order faction has any badass units?
no, naked manlets are not badass

Due to absolute lack of cool looking units I have to stay on the side of the baddies

>>96185198
Sure, but having the whole cooperation aspect serves as a way to unify and bind all those different possible aesthetics together.

>>96185212
Morathi has monster girls and those are cool. Sylvaneth are also cool with their organic mech suits. You also have all of seraphon.

>>96185217
I doubt it, you'll just end up with humans plus two microfactions that look nothing alike.

Thinking of slayer schemes. How feasible would it be to have black beards with the tips kind of smoldering?

>thread hits bump limit
>fucking dies
I don't get it, surely all the regulars are already in here and posting? Are 90% of the posters just catalog tourists? That's a horrifying thought.

>>96185237
Greyfyrd might be close to what you're thinking of I suppose. I'm pretty sure previous battletomes had painting tips to produce that effect in their facial hair.

>>96185237
Just base the tips and blended area a lighter colour (grey to off white)

>>96185266
What are you on about

>>96185212
Aren't this chads cool enough for you, sissy?

>>96185285
Pretty funny how every other one of those schemes is a massive improvement over the default vostarg scheme. I guess GW and choosing terrible schemes for dwarfs goes all the way back.

>>96185285
Yeah kind of, just wonder if doing just the tips is reasonable since there's not much surface area to blend.

>>96185309
I do wish they got an upgrade sprue for all helmets

>>96185310
Vorstarg looks great. Love that bold ass orange.

>>96185237
It works

>>96185314
Yeah, I don't care to paint faces

>>96185348
I like that, I might have to give it a shot combined with striped crests.

>>96185360
that actually kinda looks cool

>>96185348
NTA, looks awesome.
Might do something like this for my Chorfs. Though they have those beard accessories at the end... Might not work.

>>96185309
Better than Sissies of Sigmar infantry, but ranged weapons are not cool. A real man goes to battle with a sword or an axe.

>>96185314
Isn't it already all hemlets?

>>96185661
Full faced, fusiliers have a few heads like picrel but only 2 or 3

>>96185444
>>96185360

pro-tip. get some magmadroth flame contrast. that shit fucking works wonders, i normally dont like contrasts or citadel, but its the only orange i've found that can do the job well without a million coats. just put white or offwhite where you want it, one coat of the magmadroth flame, and done. then you can highlight with other oranges and yellows or add some dimmer parts with reds.

here's another version, i was trying out an azer scheme from DnD after i saw someone suggest it. ultimately ended up not going with it, but you can see how well flame effects work for their beards and crests.

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>>96185733
brutally mogs HoH

>>96185237
I think black or grey skin will end up looking unpainted
paint the skin in a bronze-like metallic, then cover it with a not too thick layer of black and then paint it as black or grey, the added metallic glitter underneath may help making the skin look less flat

>>96185707
Contrast paints and shades is the only thing I use from GW, I love them.
Though I thought Magmadroth Flames were one of those contrast paints "without contrast" that just does a solid opaque coat in one layer as you said. That's why I don't own it.
I guess you can still blend/fade it out with some medium. Did you just wick it off on your pic there?
>>96185733
Fantastic. This way it works for Chorfs too, with the beard jangles at the ends.
>>96185740
Excuse you.

>>96185237
>>96185784
The key to painting black/grey skin is to only use the color in the mid tones. Painting the recesses purple/blueish tones will give it life. It's almost like painting white. You don't actually use white except for the highlights.

>>96180093
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>>96180146
>>96181145
Guys, after reading your comments, I started to investigate and to my surprise I discovered that the PDF of the book I requested is still not available. I apologize for having bothered you.

pigs, show me, show me something with, pigs.

>>96185733
Seriously with other Painscheme and more clothes Fyreslayers could become a really cool army i don't understand why some fags want them deleted or not updated, they have to attract customers.

>>96185212
>naked manlets are not badass
What about half naked harpy ladies

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>>96185858
a big, armored PIG, enjoy it bro

I will collect DoK if they get real feathered harpies, like Krethusa but not necessarily as humanoid

>>96185877
Pigshrinkers forever in shambles

>>96185881
Then you won't collect dok
They're only getting a new kit of doomfire warlocks with the battletome

And malerion and his boys during the end-campaign with a subfaction pdf

>>96185881
It’d be pretty redundant. Also isn’t her whole that she doesn’t like mutated elves?

>>96185881
Does this work for you?

>>96185858

New bread and hopefully a better one

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>>96185907
Khineri didn't join her but there's nothing stating she's opposed to them, or that harpies wouldn't be blessed by Morai instead of Morathi
>>96185922
Hell yeah

>>96185958
I don't think you understand just how much the mutant elves are morathi's direct pawn
like bound down their very souls to be unable to do or say anything morathi doesn't want

>>96185926
I've been looking for one of these from recasters for actual years. One day I'll find one

>>96181507
Yeah but they've just turned it into a worst version of 40k anyway, game's been ruined since 3rd edition.

>>96185193
Man 1st to 2nd edition AoS was so good, it really peaked with Wrath of the Everchosen.

>>96183909
>if stormcasts were chaos warriors of order then the emphasis would be on the individual's own deeds, the path to glory, not on the chambers/chapters and on their extreme uniformity, which is so heavy handed it goes against their own fluff
Isn't it logical the Order antipode of Warriors of Chaos are orderly to a fault, unto the loss of individuality? They even have a fluff mechanic that explains it in reforging.