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>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
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>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96171574

>TQ
favorite 7 mana creature?

I cannot name any fun 7 mana creature off the top of my head.

Oh this guy is pretty fun, and seven cmc, too!

>>96180077
Nice Get previous thread me

I've gotten my collector booster box here anons; tell me how much of a dumb faggot I am while I finish my errands, eat, then unwrap my financial mistake.

They really just based the new Batman off the Ixalan story?

>>96180346 (OP)
The queen herself, of course

>>96180387
Anything good, anon?

>>96180346 (OP)
What’s your opinion on Spiderman for now anons? I wanna know the general consensus

>>96180508
Don't care. Waiting for Omenpaths.

>>96180508
Spider-Punk is fun, and I might pick him up if he's not too expensive. Aside from that, all that interests me are a few cantrips like that one discard-and-draw-two, and that "connive one, draw one". Not very enthusiastic otherwise.

wake me up once we get a Silk card

>>96180508
You posted the one good card so far.

>>96180508
This is by far the worst slop this faggots had the ball to ever print. Worse than Blacked Aragorn, all feel out of place, soulless and bland as shit. Really hope Hasbro goes bankrupt and we can be free from this kind of shit.

Oh and wait we still have to see “Arena Versions” garbage company.

>>96180508
looks way more commander focused than the average set but I guess that's the new norm, the transforming MDFCs are cool I guess, but so far they are very color restricted

>>96180508
The worst set by far but this single card makes me happy

Reddit is stupid, MPC has upgraded their P10 plastic stock and now there's no green tinge and the cards are stiff, not thin/flimsy.

>>96180508
I don’t like it.

Let me put it like this: if you search for legendary cards at common rarity on scryfall, you get 28 results.
10 aren’t really common in paper (they were only common in MODO’s Master Edition 3) so they can be discounted.
5 are a set of legendary enchantments from the commander baldur’s gate set, which is already a weird set because it’s draftable commander to begin with, and it kind of makes sense because you can’t be a master chef twice over or the like. 1 is the Prismatic Piper from commander masters…which doesn’t show up in the search, so make that 19 real common legendary cards in total.
1 is from MH3, where it being common is actually somewhat understandable because it has a grandeur ability; you actually do want multiple copies to fuel using it.
1 is from Final Fantasy, but it’s the “I have zero other options” colorless removal for the set so the odds of that mattering are 0% in practice.
2 are from Homelands, a set designed by people who genuinely didn’t know what they were doing.
The remaining NINE are from Spider-Man. And there’s at least one more because black only has one spoiled while the others have two.
Counting that, literally half of all common legendary cards ever printed will be from this one set. There are going to be so many feelbads in limited.

also what the fuck is with all the weird spider men anyways
I’m fine with the obvious jokes like the pig, the punk, or the literal noir spider man, but what’s with the one that’s just “Peter Parker turning into the animal most associated with him: a dinosaur”
Or the spider cat that at least isn’t one of the 10 common legendaries and god knows how many legendary spiders
Or the obviously humanoid and not at all shaped like a spider mecha
Please tell me that the pilot of the last one isn’t a teenage school girl so I can avoid losing even more faith in both Marvel for thinking this was a good idea and WoTC for including it

Mtg movie trailer
https://youtu.be/9Un2CD5Cgd4

>>96180703
Whens the last time you had a shower or ate a vegetable?

>>96180703
>spoiler
Spiderman for the last years has been nearly consumed by multiverse bullshit. The fans can't complain because the alternative is Paul.

>>96180744
who the fuck is Paul?

>>96180744
>>96180753
Paul will be the pushed card of the set that dethrones Vivi.

>>96180744
Wait, they’re actually canon?
How do people tolerate that nonsense?

what cards are you grabbing before they spike?
for me it's
>plasma bolt
>ruinous rampage
>timeline culler

>>96180753
My information from /co/
The son of a genocidal dictator and Mary Janes husband.

They made legendary commons because people weren't drafting spider-man enough.

>>96180508
Riot isn't relevant, tribal isn't relevant, but the other abilities look good for a laugh

>>96181023
Riot is pretty relevant. It can be a 3/2 if it isn't safe to currently attack or a hasted 2/1 if it is.

>>96180941
I'm thinking this might have a Marvel decision. It sounds exactly like the shit the suits would push onto the team
>Spiderman NEEDS to be in EVERY draft
>they NEED to see Spiderman EVERY TIME

>>96180508
My opinion: I think the world would be a better place if everyone that buys this slop drops dead.

>>96180753
Paul is MJ's current boyfriend. He's a very nothing character who only exists to be an editorial-mandated wall between Peter and MJ getting back together like literally every fan ever wants them to be.

>>96180821
Marvel's LONG done a lot of silly side things, though few of them really get too involved with the main stuff outside of events. Spider-Verse was an event comic that inspired the movies, and it similarly brought a lot of sillier Spider variants.

https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/790085318829277184/i-would-appreciate-you-not-lying-to-ign-about-why
Some fairly confirmation that Spider-Man was meant to be Assassin's Creed-sized initially.

>>96181199
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/790083941941084160/was-spider-man-originally-slated-to-be-a-smaller
Even clearer confirmation actually.

>>96181059

>>96180481>
>Kavaron, memorial word
>Stomping Ground (Borderless)
>Anticausal Vestige (Extended Art)
>Ouroboroid (Extended Art)
>Mutavault (0028) (Borderless)
>Elegy Acolyte (Borderless)
>Watery Grave
>Bioengineered Future
>Petrified Field (0032) (Borderless)
>Exploration Broodship (Extended Art)
>Zero Point Ballad (Extended Art)
>Cosmogoyf (Borderless)
>Virus Beetle
>Consult the Star Charts
>Eldrazi Temple (0059) (Borderless)
>Xu-Ifit, Osteoharmonist (Borderless)
>Kavaron, Memorial world (Borderless) (Galaxy Foil)
>Chorale of the Void (Extended Art)
>Grove of the Burnwillows (0017) (Borderless)
>Sunset Saboteur (Extended Art)
>Quantum Riddler (Borderless)
>Hearthhull, the Worldseed (Borderless)
>Susur Secundi, Void Altar (Borderless)
>Endless Sands (0105) (Borderless) (Galaxy Foil)
>Glittering Massif (Extended Art)
>Dust Bowl (0057) (Borderless)
>Anticausal Vestige (Showcase)
Notable cards, as well as cards that look fun

>>96180346 (OP)
>Hasbro sees Japan as a "... potential gold mine of potential licence partners for Magic."
Where were you when animutranny got vindicated. HARD.

>>96180346 (OP)
>TQ

>>96181270
Dark Souls/Bloodborne please. Don't care about Elden Ring, but they'd probably do them as well.

I attended my first prerelease tonight. I'll don't think I'll go to another one. Paying $35 to take an exam and then getting stomped for two hours wasn't very fun.

Went to 2 pre-release today, overall record 3-3. First kit was garbage with half of my rares being in a color I had 8 total cards for, and a whole 6 pieces of removal in the entire sealed pool. Was Simic at first then after losing match 1 and 2 with no real impact, I switched to golgari and won match 3. Sealed pool 2 was much better in that I had a playable rare and mythic in white, and went Boros. Had a bunch of 2 power creatures doing okay things, but the big play in every match, was warping Bygone Colossus in, then throwing Full Bore on it to crack in for 12/11 haste trample. It almost won me match all 3 matches, but came 2 life short in the final match due to an incidental 2 life gained by my opponent a few turns earlier.

>>96181277
This would be evil in Obeka

Forgot to add that I still only had 6 pieces of removal in second sealed kit. 3 in white, 2 in black, 1 in blue, and 0 in red or green. I guess its technically 7 because of the white wrath, but I was Boros, and wrath was almost never the play. Meanwhile my opponent in match 3 had 8 spot removal in his Dimir colors.

>>96181277
>the year is 2025
>still no cards for Leshrac himself
>already about 30 Spiderman cards

>>96181375
limited is basically gambling, constructed is where the real skill shines

>>96180508
Isn't this card very playable for monored sideboards in general? Seems pretty good

>>96180508
If anyone tries to put a spiderman card into play against me I'm just going to pick up my cards and walk off. If they don't want to play Magic that's fine with me.

Went to my first pre-release today, thanks FF for getting me back into the game. 12 total packs (2 bought and 4 won besides the kit) we only got one mythic and not very much in way of cool lands. But what a mythic for sealed! Ran dimir control and he put in work

Green Goblin with no shown front half (it's clearly gonna be Norman but you know).

>>96181576
So... if you pitch a sol ring you can cast it for free?

>>96181555
I am already a massive Cavern of Souls Hater, so yeah I think this card is pretty good as well. Also shuts down any pesky Ward effects if they end up being relevant. I wonder if there'll be any playable Spiders in Standard other than this lil fella?
If you can Riot in a few nice hasty spiders then Spider-Punk could get out of hand pretty quickly. Gruul spider aggro sounds weirdly real, but we'll have to wait and see more spoilers.

>>96181609
Sure.

>>96180346 (OP)
What the fuck am I suppose to do with this?

And the lowest quality enchantment photo ever.

>>96181564
>2 mana: etb win the game against this faggot
thanks for the store credit bro

>>96181555
Doubt it desu
Everyone sides out counterspells vs mono red

>>96181573
I'm glad you had fun anon.
Also tezzeret is a great pull - it should pretty much pay for the prerelease (although its price may drop).

Did anyone do Prerelease? I went U/B and got top 8. Set was fun but the station mechanic felt hella slow even when you were ahead.

>>96181744
>tezzeret
nice

clueless non player here
is or was there ever a ruleset for playing with preplanned, pre-stacked decks?
cause knowing when you were gonna get specific cards could provide a new layer of strategy to play, given the cards that'd exploit it the worst would be banned

>>96181987
there is deck manipulation in the game but idk of any format that has the whole deck stacked from the get go

what are you doing talking about Spiderman spoilers when Avatar teases are happening right now?

Went to a local pre-release for $25 and free pizza. Cool dudes all around, pulled a Tezzeret and one of the reprint lands.
Blue seems like a really strong base since all of the jellyfish complement each other. Pick a paired color and go to town, especially if you get one or two of the 4/4's that can become two-drops.

>>96181987
For that, my dear anon, you need to play the best TCG of all time.

>>96181538
If by "skill" you mean "size of wallet" then yes.

>>96181744
Isn't the big deal about Tezzeret that it can be played (theoretically) in Vintage? Can't see it hurting in commander either. Although ten people ended up pulling one at my store lmao.

>>96182088
wasn't standard dominated by a mono red $120 deck until a few weeks ago?
aren't most modern decks similarly priced?
isn't the top 1 pauper deck right now literally $30? what the fuck are you talking about?

>>96182036
I member when Katara caused her allies' abilities to trigger twice in the show, one of my favorite cartoon moments up there with Tifa's boobs growing twice in size when a land falls on her.

So are they just gonna make all planes planets? I always assumed they were planes of existence with infinite or almost infinite lands and places to explore

>>96181987
There's a few beginner decks with cards put in specific orders to teach people how to do X thing specifically with no deviation, that's the closest.

>>96182554
unless otherwise stated (like theros) all planes are planets of some vague size with at least a basic cosmology around them
There are several other continents on Innistrad besides Innistrad...we've just almost never seen anything from them.
The same goes for kaladesh, which is literally just the single city of ghirapur, instead of the entire planet.
Edge of Eternities is a like, "shell" around the entire rest of the multiverse that is then just its own "plane", effectively, with all of the assumed cosmology of the other planes being explicit.
Sothera is just one solar system that the two cults are having a war over, at the moment.

>>96181609
No, if you pitch a sol ring, you forfeit the game and get kicked out of the venue.

>>96182119
>Standard decks are 120$
>Modern are similarly priced
What the fuck are YOU talking about.

>kpop sets aren't off the table
seriously what's the point of playing this game anymore
i've never been more blackpilled and demoralized about this game since after reading that cox interview

>>96182608
so we're going to pretend rdw with monstrous rage and manifold never existed after months of crying about it huh
is this what your therapist recommended to help you forget big mice cock rape?

>>96176840
Ferrari
FIFA
CoD

>>96182643
And the past 15 years of shitting on the lore didn't?

>>96182687
>FIFA set

>>96180346 (OP)
>7
https://www.youtu.be/wFmlFk3EO0M

Pronouns are going to be the norm moving forward

>>96182753
it's more likely than you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ABEy2ZFbU

>>96182769
They're saving the world!
All praise the UN! All praise transgender! All praise the 17 SDGs to Transform Our World by 2030!
I LOVE THE ANTICHRIST!

>>96181261
Nice!

>>96181375
Yeah, if you're unlucky with your pulls it can quickly become miserable.

>>96181652
Can I play my custom cards anon?

There will be a football(soccer) set.

>>96182850
Checkmate

>>96182769
One day these people will be hiding in attics because of these amazing contributions to society.

>>96182769
Cards should be 'it'. Players should be 'they'

>>96182769
These faggots are going to bring back stickers but they are going to be pronoun stickers.
>Did you misgender my commander?
>S-sorry I...I though Karn, was they...them.
>Look again chud. 'My Karn' has transitioned...Judge!

>Edge of Eternities isn't even properly released yet
>They've already gone full into Spiderman reveals already
I don't really care about EoE as a set but this level of product spam is ridiculous

>>96182971
ACKSHUALLY this was just a first look (that was half the set)
Edge was actually good though unlike the shit of nu-tarkir.

>>96182928
>Cast Murder Hetero targeting a card with he/him counter
>Opponent counts by casting Transition which has Split Second
>gets disqualified due to a new anti-hate rule
It's over ... it's time to play Premodern

>>96183046
BRAZIL MENTIONED!!!
BRBRBRBRBRBRBR

>haven't played at all other than mtga's tutorial
>go to pre release
>actually mange to pull out a win
>get 2 packs as a prize
I am happy with this. I managed to run a red/blue deck that had a combo of blue instants to counter, as well as some nasty as fuck red stuff like full bore x2, nova kite x2, and two of those 9/9 any mana colossus. I was able to meme my way to victory by pulling one, using warp, and slapping full bore on it to get a 12/12 with haste and trample. Sadly I got a bad shuffle in my next round, but oh well. I had fun.

>>96181538
Incredible how this is 100% the reverse (for draft). Sealed definitely has variance, though.

>>96182769
IN THE CHARACTER ARTICLES ON THE WEBSITE.
Jesus christ, read what you post.

>>96182971
Anon, SDCC is going on right now. That's where the reveals are happening. Did you honestly expect Magic to NOT do reveals for their goddamn SPIDER-MAN set during goddamn COMIC CON?

>go to prerelease as a new player
>have fun
>other players are actually friendly and help out
>store owner gives an actually helpful walk through on everything
>recommends learning commander
>gives me a sack of cards he recommends to use for commander, as well as a smaller sack of shiny promo cards he says work well for it too
So do I just up and learn commander once I get a handle on things? He said standard is ass because of how much sweat is in it, and I should instead focus on both Modern and Commander to have fun.

this was the only worthwhile card in the EoE foil promo pack I got for winning FNM

>>96181303

You see, this would fucking work as a MtG set. These would be settings that would make sense and feel less out of place than some of the non-crossover sets we've had lately in fact.
That said, a block based on the works of the Bronte sisters where everyone is black, apart from Heathcliffe of course, would feel less out of place that most of the crossovers we've had lately, so that bar is real fucking low.

Even fucking NARUTO would work better than some of the shit we've had lately, and I look forward to seeing someone making Sasuke black.

>>96183306
if you're a new casual player you might as well just play commander yeah.
I'd never play commander but that's because I'm a sweaty tournament grinder grognard.

>>96182119
which top Modern decks are $120?

>>96183306
Sorry, you were just thrown into the deep end because Commander got meme'd as being beginner friendly and the Bad At Magic crowd swarmed it like flies to shit. You're supposed to to learn drafting and playing 60-card piles with your friends, but now you're doomed to sweatlords screeching that you didn't let them win with whatever new UB slop they bought into that week.

>>96183323
Nah. All foreign IPs are cringe. In house rip offs like Strixhaven were cringe. !Egypt, !Greece, !Scandanavia, and !India were the cringe hat sets before this current wave of hat sets. MtG found its stride for about ten years, and fell apart when they ran out of ideas.

>>96182643
You can't tell me the entire Magic IP being subsumed by UB's who don't actively hate their own fanbase wouldn't be a preferable alternative to picrel. Spider-Man is a flop because that's an IP that *does* hate its own fanbase, but at least that's one in every few UB sets instead of every single UW set.

>>96183152
Yeah, THIS is where it stops, anon. No further. There will definitely not be pronouns in the type line by 2027. That would be ridiculous.

Why the fuck are EOE Collector boosters 60 dollarydoos each

>>96183328
>>96183353
I still plan to learn standard, because my friend gave me a ton of cards from Foundation and the new space set. I REALLY like the red space cards due to that warp gimmick combined with the "you can instantly attack" ability. It seems to work really well with some spells to amp the creature's damage.

>>96183409
My store is literally overflowing with them for $29 each.

>>96182036
>love Ally from the original Zendikar
>bring my creature type back but its in ATLA shit
kill me

For some reason I thought the spiderman set would be more comics-orientated but it's super focused on the recent movies and gwen/miles huh

>>96183413
if you want to play Standard then you can play it for free on Arena to get the hang of it (but you'll have to grind up the wildcards for a deck)

>>96183455
Final Fantasy is mostly 14 I bet. The zoomer audiences are more likely to be familiar with the most recent thing.

The return of Kavu but in space and more humanoid is such a fucking monkeys paw.

>>96183474
Just you wait for Bolas and Emrakul return.

>>96183456
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing right now. Also I just opened one of these promo packs the store owner gave me, and my friend said the left card is basically the jackpot prize of these things. It seems pretty good too.

>>96183483
If it means gay bolass and emmy kill each other for good, then I am all for it

>>96183487
>not liking Nick Balls
You're gay.

>>96183471
No the FF set was genuinely pretty broad.

>>96183485
damn that's way better than all the ones I've opened lately put together

>>96182769
>it helps make differences a core to our interaction as opposed to an outlier
Supervillains couldn't come up with lines this good. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

>>96183455
It's using the comics as the basis for designs and such but it's clearly pushing what people know and love about Spider-Man in recent years (which is Spider-Verse). Kind of obvious that'd be the thing.

>>96183323
>That said, a block based on the works of the Bronte sisters where everyone is black, apart from Heathcliffe of course
i'm pretty sure this is baseline for Wuthering Heights adaptations lol

>>96183483
I thought that mtgg already conclusively proved that Bolas has returned already, as the black hole.
His hole is the hole

>>96182871
I don't think you know how Checkmate works?

>>96183509
>19 cards where the illustration contains “ffi”
>17 cards where the illustration contains “ffii”
>17 cards where the illustration contains “ffiii”
>23 cards where the illustration contains “ffiv”
>22 cards where the illustration contains “ffv”
>119 cards where the illustration contains “ffvi”
>139 cards where the illustration contains “ffvii”
>31 cards where the illustration contains “ffviii”
>35 cards where the illustration contains “ffix”
>125 cards where the illustration contains “ffx”
>19 cards where the illustration contains “ffxi”
>19 cards where the illustration contains “ffxii”
>23 cards where the illustration contains “ffxiii”
>143 cards where the illustration contains “ffxiv”
>30 cards where the illustration contains “ffxv”
>23 cards where the illustration contains “ffxvi”

>>96183558
Commander decks sort of inflate that a bit.

>>96183558
>tfw love FF9
>barely gets any rep
>what rep it does get is from Vivi being a whore

>>96183558
>about 30 cards for every single game
Yes.

>>96183562
They did the FF9 cards pretty dirty. Especially Freya.

>>96183371
That commander deck is cool at the very least. It’s pretty clear theyre not interested in writing continuation of UW, and without the structure of 3 set blocks I doubt we will ever get those qualities of UW that were loved.

>>96183570
nah she's still pretty popular

>go to prerelease
>open nonsynergistic garbage and a gemstone caverns
>lose 0-2 against a guy who taps his finger really hard on each land counting them whenever he casts a spell
>tap out and leave the establishment
I think I'm done with prereleases

>>96183605
I had the polar opposite. Everyone was friendly, I got a decent pull, and I managed to win a few packs.

>>96183152
Nah they are slowly adding it to oracle text (and not the old he/she either)

Im so glad this piece of shit is leaving standard. Fuck this card in every format

>>96183621
That's not new, they've done that for previous UB legends and the Origins flipwalkers
>>96183398
It would be rediculous, because they already have enough trouble with fitting shit in there already. Stop being stupid.

>>96180941
>Start with bad idea
>Implement more bad ideas to correct for problems with original bad idea

This is how bad designers operate.

>>96182769
>FOR FAR TOO LONG!!!!!!

>>96182769
>It helps make differences a core to our interaction as opposed to an outlier.
>It's being done to make the world more accepting of differences.
The fact that these statements would make sense coming from the Grand Wizard of the KKK about race relations.

Good job, Mark. You're retarded.

>>96183558
>game from 31 years ago
>game from 24 years ago
>current game getting made ('remake' of game from 28 years ago and is basically only for people who played it when they were nine)
>mmo 2
sure are pandering to the zoomers with that one chief

>>96183562
the only FF game I love is FFT.
yeah thanks WotC...

are dragon shields really worth paying 2-3x as much as other sleeves for?

>>96183860
No, they still haven't solved the mold issue.
They are solid though.

>>96183838
>Accepting of differences
>KKK
Come on, man.

>>96183878
If you don't accept the existence of differences, how can you be racist?

>>96183888
There's a difference between being accepting of differences and intolerant of those who are different.

>>96183838
FOR TOO LONG, FANTASY AS A GENRE…

>>96183900
Not really, actually.

>>96182769
How does this help kids while being bombed by israel?

>>96182106
Vintage drives 0.0% of a card's price. I think it is a quite powerful EDH card, and in general it's an "exciting" card. It clearly has potential.

>>96183987
>while
it's just english grammar.
you should learn some.

>>96184010
>english
>grammar
lol,
lmao even

>>96184194
>ESL mindlessly regurgitating social media speak
how novel

>>96182654
I just wanted to know where you got that the "average cost of standard and modern decks" are around 120$ (which is still an expensive amount of money for shitty quality cardboard).
Sure you'll always have some outliers but saying the game is cheap just because sometime one deck cost as much as two videogames is dumb

>playing overpriced sweat decks
I will continue to play mob boss goblin red, and I will enjoy it.

I just want big tits girls back, is that too much to ask?

Why is everyone talking about prices? Arena is free.

>>96184326
Playing Arena means you don't get to smell the 300lbs guy next to you who hasn't showered in a week and has a blue archive mat. You're literally depriving yourself of the full experience of playing mtg.

>>96184326
But anon! You will not be able to play PETER PORKER!!! What the hell are you thinking?

>>96184362
We will get the Bakersbane Duo the Electric Boogalloo.

>>96184376
I'm not familiar with Arena. So they get all the cards, but they redo them to fit in universe?

I won this game at one life despite my opponent balling out of control with his vehicles by using lively dirge to get infinite sac fodder on the last turn and flipping Sephiroth.

>SEPHIROTH

>>96184485
>So they get all the cards, but they redo them to fit in universe?
For this spider-man set, yeah.

>>96181621
Googel translate

>>96184498
I take it I can't get paper versions of the Arena cards? Because I actually like the idea of having the same cards but with in universe art.

>>96184522
>I take it I can't get paper versions of the Arena cards?
NOPE.

>>96184528
Well fuck that's unfortunate. All the more reason for me to fire up Arena and get to grinding.

>>96184485
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/through-the-omenpaths-and-digital-universes-beyond-updates
>These digital cards will be mechanically identical to their Universes Beyond tabletop counterparts but with unique creative treatments, different art, and different names.

>>96184542
Anon fucking wait for the cards to drop, and print them out. They will be legal.
I can bet a big chunk of people will want to play Ral Zarek instead Spider-Man.

>>96184610
Are you allowed to do that? I thought people would screech at you for fakes/proxies.

Think otters are slowly becoming my favorite creature type

>>96184326
With Arena you're paying with your time.

>>96184633
Mustelids are dangerously furry.
Please reconsider.

>>96184675
No. I am buying fun of playing MTG at the cost of spending time.

>>96184619
"Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"

>>96184542
>All the more reason for me to fire up Arena and get to grinding.
THAT is the conclusion you come to?
Utterly hopeless.

>>96184700
And you think crying on a Mongolian basket weaving forum will help stop WOTC from making more UB shit?

>>96184735
No, but the pipebombs I mailed might

>>96184756
But were they instant cast and hexproof?

>>96184675
As opposed to paper, where you're paying with money, which is earned by paying with time.

>>96183471
A disturbing plurality but nothing TOO egregious besides having yoshit piss in.

when do the new Preconstructed decks go on sale on MTGO?

>>96184010
Im sorry ill ad my pronouns yet you double nigger (he/faggot)

>>96184233
Nobody cares about your mutt language
I just know the basic to communicate ideas
Have fun fighting with trannies over gendered words

>>96184233
Sorry, man. I have a normal language that:
>is written as it sounds
>every object has a gender
Ill admit, you had a good run. Kipling, Shakespear, hell Monty Python all great. But you cant take it seriously anymore, with all the new wave Truthspeak.

>>96184898
only if you're a brokie

>>96184252
>"average cost of standard and modern decks" are around 120$
not what i said
top standard deck was $120
modern decks are similarly priced, as in it's not the best walled that wins but the best pilot since they are similarly priced
modern decks are similarly priced to each other, not to standard decks

>>96185357
nta but "Top standard deck is $120" is absolutely unacceptable for a hard rotating format. The fact people started accepting this is a testament to the effectiveness of WotC's gaslighting campaign.

>>96182769
I should start demanding people to address me as green-eyes (I have blue eyes)
see how they adapt that on their cards

>>96184010
Hey faggot hows that english mayor helping in your job hunting?

>>96184010
now i understand why they stopped printing cards in portuguese, this pronoun and neutral language shit straight up doesn't exist here lol

>>96185381
Never thought of that. Can you imagine the intense buthurt of a CA translator having to write a gendered non-binary person? Probably a circle of hell for them.

Captcha: YAH8W

>>96184898
or I just proxy (pirate)

>>96183046
>>Opponent counts by casting Transition which has Split Second
it has split penis actually

>>96183860
>foil deck
dragon shield matte + kmc hard inners
>non-foil deck
dragon shield matte + kmc regular inners
>draft deck
whatever cheapo matte sleeves
the cost of double sleeving is minimal compared to the cost of the decks themselves unless you're playing exclusively pauper

>>96185367
Only $120? That’s like one play set of a meta staple lmao.

Has anyone drafted EOE yet? What's their experience?

>>96185475
I only played prerelease and then dicked around with friends after. So far I really feel that red benefits the most from warp, primarily because full bore exists. You can pull some disgusting bullshit by using a cheap early warp with full bore to absolutely annihilate someone.

>>96182769
>there isn't one default, that there's an exception that there are multiple options
The concept of "exceptions" means there is some sort of default.
Btw does anyone know how I can get a job like Nosewaters? Where I can just type and jew and lie all day?

>>96185381
california SEETHES that the latinX was never accepted

>>96185569
I won most of my games off of bore and Colossus at pre-release. Its very amusing. I wonder how well it'll do in arena BO1

>bo1
bro...
if you're going to play rigged shuffler arena slop at least play bo3

>>96181576
Flying Menace is very Green Goblin, but how the fuck is the rest of that card in any way representative of Stormin' Norman, in any of his appearances? Why does he bring things back, why doesn't he remove creatures or plot shit or do ANYTHING of the shit he's actually famous for?

>>96185821
kellogg's proofs?

>>96185990
He makes EVERYTHING mayhem. It works with the flavour of mayhem itself, I guess.

>>96185976
bo3 doesn't have rigger shuffler

>>96184496
have you tried building it post rotation yet?

>>96185976
the arena quarantine zone is in a different thread

>>96180367
Sylvan Primordial

>>96180508
RIP in piss Magic: the Gathering, 1993-2025ish

did Tifa really need the baked in trample?

>>96186268
magic died, at the latest, in 2015 when they made everything even more capeshit with origins, and there are many other dates beforehand that would probably be more apt like lorwyn or alar
anyone saying it's only now died is the biggest newfag alive

>>96186298
Oh I meant the ish. I'd actually agree with 2015, because it's when they killed three set blocks so they could consistently have more big sets and that lead to the endless pipeline of product we have now.

As well as the capeshit, that was also the point they decided nuwalkers would just casually kill two eldrazi that oldwalkers could only banish, and then the next block were like 'what's this mysterious shit in innistrad' except it was just the third eldrazi because that was the point they accepted creative bankruptcy in the story.

2015 was Modern Masters 2 as well, starting the total erosion of constructed formats.

>>96186297
Yes, the card would be horrendously bad without it

>>96186297
You can't block her, she has too much mass.

I for one approve of the Tifa and Chocobo synergies.
A very subtle nod by the design team.
Impressive.
Knowers will know.

>>96185947
That's literally how I did it too. I was down the shitter on my final game, but colossus showed up and I reamed my opponent with it and full bore. I'm personally going to be building a full mono red deck with buttloads of warp and full bore. I might weave in some blue for instants to counter anything that might disturb my combo.

>>96186297
blocking is not allowed in 2025 haven't you heard

>>96186405
Don’t forget Sazh the Chocobo handler fitting in nicely.

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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>96186545
My battlebox of proxied Premodern decks is here, now I am just waiting on sleeves and deckboxes

>>96186545
Sorry, I only play modern, standard, and commander.

>>96186552
Based.
Enjoy a proper balanced format, my dude.
>>96186553
Nice to see you're supporting the cancer that's killing this game.

Will EoE shake up the meta?

>>96186545
I AM HOME AFTER A SHORT 3 DAY BAN FOR SHITPOSTING TOO HARD.

>>96186595
Based Tog poster who served his time.

>>96186590
Eh, I don't see it changing much. The landers help for getting land out there when you don't have anything else to do with your mana, and warp is nice, but nothing really stands out.

>>96186590
>meta
> +1/+1 counter spam in various colors and hyper-efficient creatures that do way too much given their mana cost
I don't see this changing at all.

>>96186667
>he doesn't like a 9/9 coming out for 3 mana, along with full bore amping it to 12/11 with haste and trample
The fact there's essentially no downside to warp since you can just regular summon them later is disgusting.

>>96186590
yes, rotation is gonna leave some holes open for it to fill

>>96181564
>>96182850
Autism is a hell of a drug

REMINDER: The ICE Swords to Plowshares is the BEST Swords to Plowshares.

>>96186832
>Barbarians: I'll plow your honor alright, lady knight

>>96186832
>swords to birds
Sure, it's the one I run, but I run it ironically.

>>96186590
I'm pretty sure it's just going to continue the trend of killing off control as a meta-archetype as the expansion is either too slow for standard or extremely powerful and cost efficient creatures that will end up allowing Aggro to further take over the format. Even worse, the disgusting Vivi jank will remain largely unchanged.

>>96186832
It’s too strong you have to use path to exile for fairness and to avoid getting hated off the table.

>>96186898
They don't like it when their overpowered 20/20 gets exiled to give them 20 life?

>>96186861
Well you see here's the problem:
>Removal that costs less than 3 mana is toxic antifun because it doesn't let people play the game
>1-drops that can't win the game are boring

>>96186938
Has anyone told anyone who uses those lines that swords to plowshares and lightning bolt have been part of the game since 1993? It's almost like the game is not designed for those """people""" and they should go back to whatever shit they were doing before instead of ruining other people's hobbies.

>>96186832
Clearly you have not read John Milton's "To the Lord General Cromwell".
Ignore the sleeve crud, it's an old pic

Waterbending cost.

>>96186832
solitude from modern horizons 2 is the BEST swords to plowshares

>>96187027
what the fuck does that mean? just "pay 5" with more words?

>>96187047
Pretty much. Pay 5 for big shit you have in your hand. Seems pretty niche to me.

I'm going to my local Lady & NB prerelease event, wish me luck!

>>96187047
My guess is
>Waterbend (5): Pay 5 mana of any color reduced by the total waterbending value among creatures you control

>>96187063
>Ladies (male) & NB (male)
Going to be an incredibly uncomfortable evening of leers for any lady (female) that gets suckered into this shit.

>>96187078
shouldn't it say "waterbend 5" (without the mana symbol) then?

>>96186950
Swords and Counterspell were design mistakes which is why they never got put back in Standard.

>>96187086
There are WATERBEND (the mana cost for the ability) and WATERBENDING (the synergy creatures that supposedly reduce the cost)
It's a bit retarded I know

>>96187092
>avatar chosen one guy controls all elements
>rgwu (wrong fucking order btw, but i get that it's from the show or whatever)
>no black
how are they making black cards for that set if black doesn't represent an element?

>>96187042
No. This is far inferior to any printing of swords. Moreover it has that ugly modern horizons slop symbol.

If you continue to support this slop, it will only get worse. After Spiderman you'll have more capeshit and at the bottom of the barrel, StarWars and / or Rick & Morty.
It's on you to say no and stop giving JotC your money.

>>96187089
And yet counterspell keeps getting reprinted for pauper, modern, and coomander. While Swords keeps getting reprinted for Coomander. Moreover, Swords and Counterspell, two cards that would be perfectly balanced in current day standard, are far from being a big problem in Vintage and Legacy. In Vintage it's the power 9 in every deck. In Legacy it's the next gamebreaking jank combo that gets printed.

>>96187105
magic only exists still to drive its former fans of high IQ white and asian men to suicide

the purpose of a system is what it does

Swords to Reparation
W
Instant
Exile target creature you don't control, its owner creates treasure tokens equal to its power

>>96187123
Would be garbage.
>One mana cost creature in current day mtg = 2/2 or stronger with no drawbacks. Hell it has trample too.
>Exile your opponent's creature in order to let him cast a 4 mana cost 9/9 with no drawbacks, trample, lifelink, hexproof, and indestructible on turn 2
Sounds like a mistake.

>>96186898
>hated off the table
>>>/tg/edhg

>>96187116
Swords would not be balanced in current Standard. It was and remains the single greatest removal ever printed.