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Literally Me edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ:
What's your pet card?

The person who counters it always dies first.

>>96181045 (OP)
Break the ice. Fuck snow lands and eldrazi.

>>96181071
I always counter it and win

>tq

>TQ

>>96181071
It's okay the Endstone will just set my life back to 20 anyway.

>>96181071
I'm going to cast this with Spider-Punk on the field and see who falls for it.

>>96181045 (OP)
>What's your pet card?
Wash Out has gone in every deck I've built with blue in it. I fucking love that card so much, been running it for over a decade

>>96181071
Just make it so your spell can't be countered

>>96181045 (OP)
>TQ

>>96181134
I really wouldn't consider this a pet card. Like saying swords is your pet card

>TQ
the cooler sheoldred

>>96181154
0.73% of 3174470 decks VS 62.17% of 2974250 decks

Am I trolling if I bring this guy as my commander to my LGS?

>>96181211
Nah, Norin is hilarious.
As long as you make a joke about whatever hes running from

>>96181211
Nowadays? Kinda yeah. Everyone knows what's about to happen, he's one of the most telegraphed commanders out there

>TQ
It's honestly one of my favorite cards. Mainly because it caused a greedy counter Atraxa player to lose at my lgs.

>>96181194
I put this is my rendmaw group hug deck.

I have a Chatterfang deck and it is very fun to pilot, very powerful, and allows for alot of flexibility in the 99.

You group hug to burn them.
I group hug to mill them.
We are not the same

>>96181283
I group hug because I draw twice as many cards as I'm giving out.

>>96181253
Oh huh. Didn't know there was a creature version. Neat.

>>96181283
I just want to watch them slap one another

>>96181045 (OP)
>TQ
every single deck with blue in it forever even if it doesnt fit at all

>>96181266
post list

Does Magda, just paint a sign on your forehead

>>96181045 (OP)
I fucking love this dude on art alone, but I haven't yet found a fucking deck to slap it in.

His brother Steel Seraph though has won me a game before and is equally sick looking. Some day I'll get him going.

>>96181347
You
Just
Know

>>96181356
My nigga. I use this one in all my white decks.

>>96181356
>>96181371
It's a useless, worthless Timmy card, but I still love it.

I remembered I have these sleeves. What deck should I put in them?

I got back into Magic for FF and I tried going to some drafts and got totally shat on. I decided to try out the Edge of Eternities pre-release because sealed sounded a little easier since I just have the one pool instead of making dumb decision on the fly. I did pretty well, 2-1 in the swiss. I pulled Tezzeret and went artifact control and it was a super fun time.

So, here's where we get EDH relevant, i definitely wanna put Tezzeret into something. Right now I've got precon Terra, Tidus, and Kefka Court Mage, but none of them are super artifact heavy (maybe if I went in Eggman as a commander over kefka, but meh). I would like to build something eventually that's mono color though, because I tire of building these mana bases. So I ask you, /edhg/, who is a fun mono color commander than wants an artifact heavy build? Would love some suggestions

>>96181347
You could cut out everything from this pic but the tits and it's still be good

>>96181478
Daretti or Chiss-Goria

>>96181360

I still think Theodore is getting the best head

>>96181529
lmao

So continuing on the topic of a self-mill deck, Jarad is too telegraphed, Mycotyrant is too fragile. Sidisi would be good, but my friend already has that deck. So i'm still on the hunt for a "dump my deck into my graveyard" commander. Maybe pic related? Its a weird form of reanimator that gets to reanimate any kind of permanent, not just creatures.

>>96181486

>>96181045 (OP)
>What's your pet card?
It shouldn't be, but it's Dawn Charm.

I've inflicted emotional trauma too many times with it in my group, because I performed so many clutch reversals with it. Someone goes in for the kill, taps everything just to make sure I die, and then Dawn Charm completely fucks him and leaves me with an open field to win the match. It's not something that happens consistently or often, but it's such a devastating trap right on the verge of victory that it's not easily forgotten.

It's now essentially an 8th card in my hand, because even if I'm not holding it everyone assumes I have it and plays around it. I could probably take it out of my deck and it still would be my De Facto pet card.

>>96181554
Cringe

>>96181203
>using edhr*c
ok

>>96181554
Based

>>96181653
Ah yes I'll instead use cEDH numbers where it is similarly non-present.
or are we going with anecdotes now?

>>96181554
based

Inspirit or Kilo, assuming I'm doing some light upgrades to the precon?

ive decided to build big gay wizard burn as my next deck
whats some spicy stuff i can throw in thats not just every cantrip possible

>>96181685
Kilo has a much higher ceiling, but its kind of akward because the precon doesn't have many ways to actually tap him other than attacking, and most of the times he won't survive doing so. I think if you're playing a lightly upgraded version of the precon Inspirit might end up being better

>>96181687
Mirror box stuff and clone effects

>>96181665
Anecdotes always beat data on 4chan

>>96181595
Dawn Charm is great. The combat damage dodging is really useful and the regenerate and counter is nothing to sneeze at either. Had games where someone got out Shay Cormac and used him to remove indestructible from my commander and tried for a board wipe to cripple my board state only for Dawn Charm and it's regenerate to come in and protect the key piece and turn things around.

>>96181698
ive been loving putting orthion in the decks ive been building lately cloning zidane 5 times and stealing a board full of shit was funny
but so far this sounds like the funniest thing ive found for kuja

>>96181341
https://moxfield.com/decks/CpAVzEZA80OLDp8F4Bqi3g

>>96181554
>>96181656
>>96181677
>Haha! It's funny because tits!
>Boobs! Clever joke because mommy milkers! Haha!
Grow up

>>96181799
Funny? It's hot. Not everything is about le ebin meme xd bro

I put him in every deck

>>96181811
He’s not wrong. Literally Indian tier posting

>>96181799
>>96181822
Nothing more childish than trying to be thought police.

Ye gods! My Gabranth is ruined! Unless...

>>96181838
This card has kino energyv

>>96181822
But he literally is wrong?

>one shots you

>>96181838
>Or put into exile
Thank god they're finally realizing dodging death triggers is gay.

wow this jund precon is just legendary soup huh.

>>96181848
If I couldn't stop it with it that telegraphed, I deserve to lose.

>>96181861
desu if they don't have answers for your answers then they deserve to lose.

>went to prerelease
>bought a CB
Why am I like this.

>>96181848
>only 1 person loses
pathetic

I'm actually really glad the spider man set is shaping up to be shit. Almost zero fomo if the cards are all bad or ultra niche.

>>96181877
Haven't we only seen starter deck cards?

>>96181848
these are all 100% goofy.
frodo gets by because he only has two abilities and they're cheap, and obviously says "that player loses the game" on him. would you play any of these at all in a deck? are any of these worth rule 0ing?

>>96181478

>>96181877
I grew up reading comics and have the worst fucking capeshit burnout.

I don’t even care about UB as an issue, but this shit makes my eyes glaze over

>>96181872
Retardation.

>>96181687
The fun Rakdos spells that make everyone wary of doing anything when you got open mana.

>>96181905
we've seen the starter decks, the cards included with the action figures, and a few big name legends like peter-man, gwen, and that guy women want to be in an abusive relationship with.

>>96181921
Tenth District Hero becoming legendary is pretty cool. Makes me wish these, besides Frodo, were better. Would be cool if they did more of these.

>>96181935
>and that guy women want to be in an abusive relationship with.
Eddie Brock?

>>96181921
Tenth District would be kinda cool to go wide with.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

I want her to be my commander

>>96181921
Pretty sure the boros one had uses in some format at some point in history.

>>96181946
What is this? My current Civ save?

>>96181939
the future guy

>>96181921
Why'd you leave out the faggiest one

>>96181921
I still run FoD even though it's been powercreeped pretty hard. One-drops have really had their power levels boosted pretty dramatically in recent years. I remember when FoD was borderline game breaking for a 1-drop, since a guy that was a reliable 2/2 swinging on turn 2 and a 4/4 on turn 3 was ahead of the curve.

>>96181955
forgot it existed and I didn't bother checking tags. also I forgot him again by the way.

>>96181955
It's kind of annoying that he's not too bad. Would almost considering building if not for it being Kellan just because I really like this level up like mechanic.

>>96182005
Same to be honest, I might make a proxy for him just because I like this abilities, I just hate kellen

This green goblin is pretty cool actually. Also, another grixis villain

>>96182029
but that's the grixis goblin

>>96182029
wtf he should be naya because he just heckin should

>>96182029
>grixis
>villian
fucking pottery

>>96182029
Neato. Need them to post the front side to actually evaluate it at all.

>>96182029
What's his front side?

>>96182092
Hasn't been posted yet from what I can find.

>>96182092
We don't know yet, but every front side so far has had an ETB. Probably connives on ETB, since that's a mechanic that is being associated with villains in this set and it helps fuel your graveyard.

>>96182087
>Ignores all the non-grixis villains shown so far

>>96182021
Yeah I wouldn't really mind that. Or maybe just get one scratch it out and try my hand at drawing something for it. I just want a mono red commander to try.

>>96181955
EIGHTEEN NAKED HUMAN FAERIE SCOUTS IN THE SHOWERS OF THUNDER JUNCTION RANCH

>>96182099
Yes? Now post all the nonvillian grixis creatures shown.

>>96182087
>Why is the most evil color combo always bad guys?!
Really makes one think

>>96182122
That is so far the only grixis card revealed, anon

>>96182132
They should make them totally retarded color combos just to shake things up. Eggman should have had white instead of red because he just should have.

>>96182145
A naya villain could be cool.

>>96182145
Eggman could have worked as either esper or grixis. IT really depends on if you wanted to focus more on his cold, logical side (Which admittedly they don't show much anymore) or his more manic mad scientist side.
Ultimately they went with red, which in this case is the better choice since it lets Shadow and Knuckles (Both former allies of eggman) be in an eggman deck.

Will you get her toy?

>>96182195
Yes. I will pay the boob tax

>>96182005
>>96182021
I built him and I enjoy it. Just a shitty voltron pump spells deck. Im enjoying 1 drop commanders

>>96182195
booooba

>>96182169
No, he couldn't. There is nothing white and orderly about him.

>>96182195
Depends on how much it is. That card is worth maybe 20 bucks to me cause its really hot mhm. It's also a slam dunk in my Marvin deck but that doesnt matter

>>96182195
>Will you spend 80-100 dollars for a promo
No.

>>96182195
Can they not make their figures not look like shit?

>>96182228
It's a Marvel Legends. They mostly suck.

>>96182232
All non-Japanese figures suck.

>>96182224
The figure is going to be like 20 dollars anon.

>>96182195
I fucking hate it when figure designers make female anatomy that way. It's fucking infuriating they don't give her even a bit of waist movement. Not even a damn ab crunch. Not just these guys but Figma does the same shit too. It's terrible.

>>96182235
Almost. There are some decent Chinese things and some third party figures around. Also doesn't help that Figma are one of the biggest Japanese figure brands around but theirs sucks.

>>96182238
Massively bought out and scalped for 80 dollars each*

>>96182224
the figure is $39.99, available on Amazon and specialised toy shops. this print isnt limited at all.

>>96182228
her face looks nice imo.

>>96182248
Have you seriously never in your fucking life seen something scalped and rare in the toy industry?

I really like this art.

>>96182251
Honestly, no. Care to give a recent example of a super scalped toy outside tcg?
I would expect to casually shop this toy/card on Amazon at msrp when it gets released.

Cards packaged in the toys aren't even good.
5 dollar cards at fucking best and y'all niggas really going nuts over them

>>96182217
He can get absolutely stone cold in the archie comics. Which I understand isn't the main canon, but they're pretty well regarded from what I can tell.
Aside from the incident.

>>96182265
I plan to sell them for like 50+ each. Ez money

>>96182235
You can find the occasional good one from outside Japan. But Hasbro? NAh fuck that shit.

>>96182265
they are not even exclusive. the main set version will be $0.20

>>96182256
So when you exile this guy for his second effect you can just put him in the command zone and still give whatever you put the counter his first ability, right?

>>96182281
Yes

>>96182278
It's colorless artifact support that isn't bad, so, 5 dollars minimum

>>96182248
>available on Amazon
Where? It's not up there yet unless it's listed as something else.

>>96181766
I can't remember any time I cast it for anything other than its fog effect. They're nice options to have and let you generally feel safe, but its counterspell effect is definitely more niche than you'd expect, and I tend to not run many creatures that are worth singling out for saving.

>>96182256
this is a really neat fixed yuriko

What the fuck was their problem?

>>96182295

>>96178214
1. August 2025, 1 PM ET

>>96182301
I'll admit the regenerate and counter I've only done maybe twice each at most. I've mainly used it for the stopping combat damage thing as well. But using it to stop a massively pumped Crackle With Power that would have wiped the table and then going for game myself is a hell of a felling the one time it happened.

>>96182319
THEY NEED PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN'S ASSHOLE

>>96182323
Oh, I completely missed that. Thanks.

>>96182256
This was my favorite card from the set so far until i read it the second time and realized you have to exile it from the graveyard for the second effect. It would have been so cool if you could just pay 3 to add the first ability to another of your creatures. As it stands, its just not very good as a commander

Thots on this dork?

I've always loved the Ninjutsu mechanic, but I never played black or blue decks, so I've never actually used it.

Yuffie is essentially the first ninja I have any plans on running, and I feel like people are sleeping on how good she is, but then again that might just be me overvaluing her stealing while also having very little experience with Ninjutsu.

>>96182375
man a commander with regular ninjutsu would really suck

>>96181799
>im a homo
we know, anon. no need to tell us twice.

hmmmm

>>96182499
bros wake up new thing to seethe about just dropped

>>96182499
I don't like those people as much as anyone else, but spider man CANONICALLY takes place in new york, so it makes sense that La Creatura is present in the set.
Honestly, given that spidey enforces the law, the modern populace of NYC would probably fuckin' hate him (Except the poors)

>>96182356
Jankiest fucking cedh commander ever printed. Anyone in the know will target him because his weird fucking loops make the game miserable and are usually accompanied by stax pieces. But he has a really unique playstyle and you get to do some really neat stuff with cards that are absolutely useless in any other deck.

>>96182356
cool in theory, lame douche card in practice. It just creates games where one guy plays with his weiner for 10 minutes trying to figure out if he has it or not.

>>96182356
He's strong in the sense that his combo line is very unique and if your pod doesn't know anything about him it's hard for them to interact with once the engine is get going.

>>96181838
There, I've done a horror.

>>96182646
you clearly never played against any Izzet deck, or the Nu-Narset from aftermath.
Tayam is on the lower tier of "Solitaire" offenders

>>96182646
Does it really lend itself to those kind of play patters so easily? With how you have to pay mana into his ability I'd think it would be limited a bit. Though I thought similarly when I built Ghave on a whim without knowing anything about him only to realize he goes infinite a new way almost every game. What does Tayam do? Generate infinite mana and then mill and play your whole deck at once?

>>96182375
Yuffie is cool. Though her ninjutsu is kind of limited with how it's regular ninjutsu if you wanted her as a commander. She can only do that from the hand so you'd have to get her back to hand at some point to even use that first ability.

>>96181838
What the fuck. Why the fuck did the new one also get vigilance and an on death trigger? It's weird how lopsided the power of the set feels.

>>96182256
>let's make bestow even shittier somehow

This set is such a monumental failure. I hope people spam nosewater's blog with requests for the arena version irl.

>>96182256
This is probably the second spooder card that has gotten my attention. Giving this ability to something big and just whacking people so I can self-mill bigly could be a lot of fun, especially in Golbez where I play it as a graveyard-y deck. In the cz, it probably would be fun to repeatedly give this ability away, but even then, I'm not 100% sold. Maybe this will be one of the few singles I buy.

>>96183056
RIP to the niggas that wanted to use symbiote suit spooderman as a commander though
Also, what's the over/under on them making a spooderman card in an art card or secret lair?

>>96183063
Considering they used that meme image from spongebob, I feel like it's something we'll see in some form of another. I was surprised not to see the poorly drawn Sonic somewhere.
I don't think it's a big RIP to people who want to use it in the cz, since it doesn't say anything about it being exiled in how the ability works, just the cost, so you can send him back to the command zone if you fuckin' hate yourself lmao
I could swear there was some kind of altar that let you repeatedly put your commander into your hand from the command zone for increasingly large amounts of life

>>96182195
Why is Flash using water pistols?

i really wonder how the UW in cards for Arena are going to look like.
My guess is: extremly hamfisted and retarded

satisfying to see spider sloppa being this trash, let the NPCs and capeshit lovers by all that garbage.
cards being this bad guarantees i wont be seeing any at my tables

>>96183166
basado

>>96181435
Bolas with Ugin as secret commander.

>>96181045 (OP)
>What's your pet card?
Every deck with a white identity will have it, one way or another.
Giant unblockable hexproof creatures are everywhere so it's just good to hold things off.

>>96183160
Well duh there's spider ham what kind of fists would he have otherwise?

>>96183160
Best outcome is a fantasy set full of drivers I guess since so many of the cards are Spider Human typed.

>>96182307
Thats not what that is at all

>TQ
these are my dogs, i run them in every deck i can
also bonus points for
>Gay Bolas's Citadel in the Grazers backfround

>>96182929
Tayam is what you call Nadu with more complicated hoops, once it went off you better pray it is going to be fast. It's not just mana that they need to generate but also counters on creatures so they play these weird ass cards that no other deck can utilize optimally.

TQ: never upset when I draw him and always fun to double down on cheap spells for value. Bonus for double ramp or double kill effects.

>>96183639
I hate this card because aside from it having been completely broken as fuck when it released, the guy is dumb looking as fuck and the first card he proposed was even more broken as fuck.
He wanted an Island that you could discard for 2UU to counter a spell, and we should all be thankful the designers were well aware how stupid that would have been and talked him down to SCM.

>>96183654
Hahaha he’s only as degenerate as you make him. In 60 formats you know I slot him alongside lightning bolts and counter spells. In commander I make him way less oppressive.

It’s a nice card now considering the crept shit that gets printed and I like the homage to old mtg winners.

>>96182841
This has always been a bad take. I'm so glad it never caught on.

>>96183639
I hate this art

>>96181798
Thats nuts, what bracket would you say your list is in? I am still trying to figure those out.

>>96183673
I've generally disliked all the face replace cards, and am genuinely glad most of them now have alternate art.

I will say that no one got done as dirty as Faerie Mastermind.

>>96183684
who asked?

>>96183720
Yeah lol theyre pretty ugly by and large. I think bob is the most decent one I’ve seen.

>>96183676
Rocks are overused being the bad take? Or that they aren't overused?

>>96181798
>combo deck
how original
*yawn*

The philosophy EDH has towards mana rocks/ramping are relics of a bygone era. Where your decks average cmc was well over 3 and any cards that actually impacted the game immediately were 5/6 mana or more. The game has changed and so too should your philosophy. If your curve is hovering at 2 or below, you do not need the same amount of rocks you needed ten years ago when your curve was twice as high. Everything comes out earlier and easier now you dont need to "set up" for explosive turns in the future the cardpool is such a way now that all your turns should be explosive and unless ramp is actually part of your decks strategy it should be avoided.

If you're still stacking your deck with rocks you are just building wrong from an objective standpoint.

>>96183783
dumb as hell, only reason not to run rocks is the tempo loss, which still doesnt matter in edh. if i have more mana i can just do more of my low cmc things. casting more low cmc spells is better than casting one.

>>96183792
Arguments detected: none, when the landscape changes, so does your philosophy. Anything else is retardation but carry on soldier. Meanwhile when you're finally ready to play magic my board is already threatening to control or take you out.

>>96183783
>The philosophy of ED-
stopped reading

>>96183807
You didnt even start reading dipshit, as that is not what I said.

>>96183783
Power creep has been a disaster for all formats. Too many keywords and effects on too low costed creatures makes everything combo city and basically the only way I see people building commander decks outside of being so low to the ground they aggro under combo decks enough to take out 1 and lose to the other 2

>>96183720
I can't wait till this is reprinted as a hot woman

>>96183341
>>96183249
You guys are way to optimistic. It's just going to be knock-offs store-brand heroes and villains replacing all the characters because they already have a heroes and villains theme they need to play into too.

>>96183734
(You)

>>96183829
just like snapcaster, right?

>>96183806
Arcane Signet and Fellwar Stone are run in CEDH.

>>96183841
Yes

>>96183829
I wish. Seeing what they did to Liliana and Chandra doesn’t give me much hope. As long as wotc is on this social justice train we’re not getting attractive cards outside of UB where outside interests throw their weight against wotc.

>>96183639
>>96183720
the funniest part about those cards is how they have fat/soft faces with glasses. it's the absolute archetype of undesirable male - weak and crippled. So absolute ugly, that not even men with a soft spot for ugly characters like them.
did the winners have no say on how they get portrayed?
>you look like an ugly retard IRL, so you have to look like on forever on a magic card too
If that's true, that's just cruel. But in case those winners wanted the cards to look like that: lol lmao

>>96183875
This is why UB is based

>>96183783
You're copy + pasting this from that Trinket Mage retard to ragebait, aren't you?

>>96183783
What a stupid fucking opinion

>>96183792
>>96183807
>>96183921
>>96183924


It’s clear you never played mtg before the dark times and it’s sad!

>>96183957
>It’s clear you never played mtg before the dark times and it’s sad!
People played MORE ramp in early EDH because the format was glacial.

>>96183921
If anything he is copying from me as I have been rallying against ramp for months

>>96183765
Mana rocks being overused is a bad take. Playing your piece on curve (or even before) but also being able to leave up mana for interaction is how you win.

>hazel can copy role tokens
Funni, but not sure how useful that is outside giving trample/ward to select targets.

>>96182841
>uuuum in 60 card 1v1 they're bad don't you know that?
>you could have spent those crucial early turns playing a low CMC creature combo piece or counterspell that takes over the game
>because we're not here to "do the thing", we're here to win
>just like competitive 1v1
>also hard control is a good thing and you should like it
>>96183792
Banking mana through rocks allows you to avoid presenting threats first as well. From the grugs down in preconland all the way up to cEDH the rule of the first person presenting as the threat usually being the first to get knocked out remains constant.

>>96183962
Yeah so the idea that reducing mana rocks is a better modern strategy… works? Thanks for agreeing.

>format gets faster
>less need for mana rocks
Simple really.

>>96184033
You dont "bank" mana anon. Please play the game for a few years before trying to discuss it

>>96181935
Movie Miguel got weird

>>96183767
that's not a combo deck retard, looks more like an aristocrats deck with a possible combo finish as there's only 2 ways to tutor soultrader
>>96183710
I'd say high 3

Why did God have to make cutting cards so hard?

>>96181951
Miguel isn't abusive he's right

>>96184056
Spending early mana on a rock or land ramp effectively banks it in the short term and pays off with more in the mid to long term. The point is you're spending early mana for a return on more later instead of flopping a threat onto the board. Casting a siggy will make people consider you more of a threat because of unknown potential to be paid off on later turns but if you slap down an Impact Tremors or Voice of Victory you're actively positioning yourself as a threat.

>>96184098
>Buy a hobby lobby guillotine cutter
>can't even cut straight lines
Need to get one of these

>lost to a guy running 27 lands

>>96184063
>>96184101
I didn't say he was abusive, I said women want to be in an abusive relationship with him. judging solely by all the AI character profiles of this setup I see on those websites. also weird same- and late-fag.

>>96181296
Based draw enjoyer

>TQ
I love how this card can sometimes just make you eat shit and pull out something really painful for everyone to deal with. I love a bit of wacky at my table

>>96184127
!!!

>>96184227
Why am I a dumbass? Shit is lined up perfectly, always cuts to the right.

>>96184238
I mean cutting them from the deck... 100 is not enough

>>96184245

This should be an auto include in any lifegain deck, yeah? That random 0 cost tactical nuke seems almost too good

>>96184292
Yes, it is very good.

>>96184103
>anon plays with shitters

>>96182841
Absolute bullshit

>>96182841
Stop shilling your youtube

>>96182841
TLDR; It depends on if your deck has synergy with mana rocks, artifacts, et.c.
Otherwise, just use a 50$ utility land, duh!

There, saved you 15 minutes.

>>96184347
It's EDH. You should expect shitters. But the same premise exists in cEDH where presenting your wincon first is the easiest way to lose a pod.

>>96182841
All I know is I've been winning more since replacing my rocks with good spells and lands. If you have enough rocks to reliably get them early then you have enough to be drawing them mid and late game when they are bad to cast

>>96182640
I tend to play stax in Cedh and I've had plenty of people suggest Taiyam to me, I've even brewed up a list but damn I can't see him actually being fun to play. You have to commit a decent amount of slots to utter jank and you create a target on your back because people will fire off removal quickly because they aren't familiar enough to know the exact times to interact.

>>96184364
Building a board state is not the same as slapping thoracles on the stack and hoping you win. And without wipes (which might hit your rocks!) You arent dealing with a well established board state. Develop your board and stop playing like its 2010

Guys I just got done having sex with your mom, commanders for this feel?

>>96184140
>guy at the table mulligans 4 times
>wow you never hit enough lands? how many do you have?
>30...
not playing green, mind you.
>lose to Worldslayer
sigh

>>96184341
Sweet. I've never really made a deck focused around healing myself a ton so I'm kinda going in blind on just what I should get

>>96183720
I had to sell it, just couldn't bring myself to run it even if it is pretty good

>>96184292
>4 mana exile nuke
wtf kek, it's not in my budget but I'd include this at once in my Elenda deck.

>>96184358
I have to wonder how he even has an audience. But then I remember reddit is a thing and they love this kind of crap.

>Player 1 plays rhystic,
>Player 2 plays rhystic
>Player 3 plays Smothering
Should I just fucking scoop?

>>96184292
Absolutely

>>96184292
>This is only 5 dollars
the fuck

>>96184390
Mono white? Orzhov does it far better

>>96184454
Orzhov? Selesnya does it better.

>>96182195
>furryman is just a nickname card

What a rip

>>96184454
Was thinking mono white but am still getting a rough outline of what I'm wanting to do on colors. Was kind of wanting to do a King Arthur knights of the round table sort of deal with this guy as my commander and running Excalibur (1 or 2) to slap onto him for theme. Thematically I think mono white fits but there's arguments i guess for a Naya since you have Ser Gawain and the Green Knight as a poem, and Lancelot is absolutely a red color character, but I'm still workshopping the concept

>>96184446
God I'm so fucking glad my friends don't run those toxic bullshit cards

>>96184446
Bro your Spirit of the Labyrinth?

>>96182319
Imagine there was some masked guy who went around beating and tying up anyone he deemed a criminal. He doesn't gather evidence or witness statements, he will never appear in court to testify, he's not recognizable as being a part of any agency or organization. He just runs around town waiting for something he views as a crime to happen until he swoops in and hits the shoplifter running out of the wal mart over the head with a bat and ties him up to a nearby lamp post. What if his attack tore the retina of that person? What if he hit them in such a way he caused a seizure or brain damage? Doesn't matter to him, he's just off to vigilante the next one and we'll never be able to hold him accountable because he hides his identity.

Now imagine if there were other people like him but they were openly and proudly committing crimes in masks. Like robbing a bank with grenades and flamethrowers, and the masked vigilante shows up to stop them with his own weapons and they have a firefight up and down the block with people's cars getting shot up and grenades going through shop windows and businesses being burnt down with flame throwers while they fight it out.

That's what Spiderman (and all super "heroes") are. They're unaccountable vigilantes acting as extrajudicial tyrants. J Jonah Jameson did nothing wrong.

>>96182356
Graveyard is up there with artifacts for the most boring and broken deck types imaginable.

>>96184582
Like everything in the comics, JJJ varied drastically in quality based on the writer. Most of the time he was just the butt of a joke, sometimes he was fucking ridiculous. However, very rarely, he left a memorable impression of being completely rational and justified.

>>96184582
/pol/ would (correctly) call him a patriot

>>96184582
But he catches them in the act anon which legally changes everything.

>>96182029
The Green Goblin... is not green?

>>96184582
JJJ is probably the only spiderman character I've consistently liked, regardless of how serious or goofy he's portrayed. What would his color identity be? Mardu?

>>96181084
As long as you're not one of those assholes who calls it "Lesbian Stage" every time you play it.
Joke got old a long time ago.
So of course I still do it.

Oh things are moving forward Tiamat's deck.

>>96184446
Depends on if the dipshits feed each other or pay. If they feed each other definitely scoop.

>>96184446
here, have some life noobs

>>96184476
Nothing is realistically outgaining this dude

>>96184798
Boros. He's a passionate good guy.

Look ma! I can make sloppa for 12 dollars a card too!

>>96184955
Do people actually pay/proxy this kind of slop? AI or otherwise. I was looking at cool proxy lands and saw some that were just giant titty anime girls with different colored hair... just why? Can't you just goon in the privacy of your home later?

>>96184476
Spikefeeder goes hard in this deck.

>>96184989
>>96184955
Just spend another $300 on coomette proxies ama

>>96184989
Unironically to make people like you uncomfortable so you misplay. There have been games that I 100% won because of my big tiddy playmat and sleeves triggering the opponent.

>>96185051
I dont believe you. Every lgs I've ever been to would force you to either use different artwork or leave and never come back.

>>96184925
*gains a billion life with one attack*
Ok kiddo

>>96185051
I just assume you are a porn addict and keep playing. I find it hard to believe anybody does what you're describing.

>>96185069
>posts a card both decks can play

>>96184955
Yeah, I found his model a little while ago too.
Like how it does clothes, but hate it's faces.
Do it if you think you can print well.
>>96185046
What did you buy?
>>96184989
Just because you are a pretty woman doesn't mean you are obligated to touch your dick anon.

>>96185069
Based. This is one of my favorite comeback cards.

>>96185059
Every lgs I have gone to has asked me just to make sure the other players were fine with it and don't use it in front of children, the female co-owner of one asked me where I got them because she thought they were pretty.

How good is this nigga? His build around sounds cool. Not sure how well he runs though, mono black kinda just folds to exile/bounce. 5 mana is also kind of a lot for what looks to be a low to the ground aggro deck.

>>96185114
Thank god

>>96185114
he's been kind of niche-crept

>>96185070
>>96184989
The fact the first thing you think about when seeing boobs is touching your dick says more about you than anyone else.

>>96185114
I want to like this guy (haven't tried him, so don't care about what I say) but 5 mana in monoblack feels like way too much. If he cost 2-3 mana he would be intriguing.

>>96184808
I'm still mad that DnD Bahamut's only representation is one of the worst flavor fails of all-time on a dogshit planeswalker.

If they made a monhun UB would you expect the elder dragons to be legendary? 'Technically' in the lore they aren't, but people are going to want a fatalis deck.

>>96185175
DRAGON SEXO!!!

>>96185078
Ok but it's strictly better in Lathiel. Think on it, kiddo.

>>96185204
nah man, 2 life on upkeep is so much more powerful

>>96185184
Yes but that doesn't answer my question

>>96185204
strictly speaking, an anthem needs creatures, and lathiel always has creatures, whereas oloro can be any archetype and thus isn't always creatures. so technically, "probably".

>>96184476
>Someone has this in the command zone
>turn 1 ocelot pride
>Cast Cutdown
>they scoop.

*prevents your lifegain*
Now your deck doesn't work

>>96185288
Always bring the back up plan.

>>96185288
Am I retarded if I like the nu erebos more than this one? He gives you good insurance against board wipes, but can still sac creatures off to trigger the draw like old erebos.

>>96184955
Booba, though no idea what fucking card this could even be

>>96185304
That's fine.
I built OG Erebos and it's very enchantment heavy punisher deck. Not quite stax-- I don't stop you from playing the game, I just hurt you every time you do anything.
I did have Bleak-Hearted in there but I just didn't have enough creatures to make him work.

>>96185297
I wish we got more effects like this. Nurse burn in yugioh was always a funny deck.

>>96182195
why wouldn't I? it's a product I must consume

>>96184358
yes, my every deck synergises with having more mana, how could you tell?

This guy looks funny, anybody gonna try to brew him?

>>96185447
Oh look, this post again

>>96184446
wrong bracket motherfucker

>>96185447
He could be fun with Samwise

>>96184140
"ugh cant keep this"
"ugh have to go down to 6"
"man im so unlucky"
>"dont worry dude it's a casual game you can just mull til you get a playable hand"
>t1 sol ring

>>96185508
kek, iktf
>playing with some new people at the LGS
>mention I can't keep my hand, and ask if they usually stick to 1 free mulligan
>"oh, we just let everyone mulligan until they have a playable hand, it's funnier that way"
I just assumed "playable" meant "optimal starting hand"

>>96182356
i love this kind of unique design opening for creative deckbuilding experiences.

I am taking one of my decks apart for the first time.

Once it's scrapped I will be down to 28 decks.

>warhammer precons have some insanely pushed stuff in them
>due to UB theyre never getting reprinted, and WOTC gave up on in universe versions of everything years ago
fug

>>96185508
>>96185517
It's kind of a scouts honor thing, which mostly means it depends on your playgroup. My friends and I allow a couple free mulls, but only if you really need it. Obviously we don't check hands to confirm, but with scummier people it'd get abused.

never give out free mulls, make them build better decks.

>>96185582
this is the way.

>>96185582
Couple mulls is fine since this is a card game, you can get a 0/1 lander and just be fucked. Even with 38+ lands. Anything beyond that is a deck building/shuffling issue on the players part.

>38 lands in a mono color deck
>Never can end up with more than 2 lands in hand with it when I draw
Thought mono color was the red pill

Take the "discard your hand and draw that many cards + 1 from the command zone" pill

>>96185616
run 42 lands

>clive's hideaway and he gets Avacyn from the 4 cards right about when I was gonna wrath him last match
I can't even be that upset, I was way too curious what was in the box and got my ass kicked due to it

>>96185508
>>96185517
The worst part is when the person that takes 4 free mulligans every game starts trying to give deckbuilding advice.

>oracletag:blink set=eoe
that's it?

>>96185582
I like 1 freebie as a gentleman's agreement since I've been in the position where I had 38 lands and still got fucked on lolnolands before, but past that and I agree

>>96185616
It is but rng still exists, you're just mitigating it by not needing multiple colored lands on top of that.

>>96182847
so based, thank you for your service

>>96185582
For a while my group was super generous with free mulls, but then we started forcing the official mulligan rules and people had to run more lands and I think it was for the best.

>>96185646
This set is kind of a nothing burger. There's a reason people are only talking about like 4 cards from it.

>>96185175
I every Elder Dragon (and elder "tribe" card) is legendary in MtG so I don't see why they wouldn't. I don't think MH fans would get to upset about that. I'd be more interested how you would pull of legendary hunters. Probably just associate them with they're town; The Hunter of Kokoto, The Hunter of Yukomo ect...

>Friend swears by mana weaving after every game
>Tell him he needs to shuffle 7 ore more times or its cheating
>Does
>Still has to mulligan half the time
Stop wasting my time for your god damn gambler's fallacy

So I bought the Counter Intelligence precon, but I haven't actually built a counter deck in the past (I mostly play Gruul Aggro/Esper Control). What is my gameplan here? Should I use the face commander and go wide? Should stack all the counters on one big thing? or should I be running the alt commander?
I love the flavor of the spaceship and robot and I bought it mostly for theme, but I'd like it to be a functional deck I could run at my LGS league.

list for reference: https://moxfield.com/decks/K_R2ARDl_0W6Bs-mVi-vCA

>>96185701
please insist on cutting his deck too

>>96185701
when my opponent asks me to cut their deck I do a single shuffle of it then cut it

I would like to thank every commander player for being the freest fucking wins at every prerelease I've been to in the last year
>umm I usually play commander idk how this all works xD
Music to my ears. Sincerely I love you guys, keep coming out to prereleases with zero deck building skill and awful game skill.

>Playing Scion of the Ur-Dragon
>Settling in for a cozy game
>Drop him in with 4 open
>Player tries to swords it
>Activate commander
>They try to Path it
>Activate commander again
>Turn it into Silumgar, Drifting Death
>He gets a smug look on his face asking what I'm going to search up with his Swords coming up
>Fail to find
>He starts malding and saying I can't do that because he knows I have more dragons in my deck
>He starts saying I have to choose one and I can't lie that there's no dragons left (I never said this, just F2F)
>He even tries to reach over to grab my deck and "prove" there's more dragons
Some people really can't take the L.

>>96185687
Monhun in general doesn't really give names to the characters. Even the non player character ones. So it would probably be a 'collection' like jurassic park was, focusing mainly on the monsters.

I still wish I was smart enough to figure out how much land I need for a deck. I get it's better to err on the side of caution, but at the same time it feels like I'm wasting valuable space if I do too many lands and won't have enough gas to keep up since I am a weirdo that is drawn to more control through combat midrange shit rather than aggro, combo or going full prison

>>96185687
The Handler

>>96185802
It's be a shame to not have a few legendary hunters, I'd take Spirited Fiver as legendary. I could see an over abundance of legendary equipments for the most iconic weapons in game. I'd buy Black Dragon Spear or Gun Chariot, I don't even like equipment decks.

>>96183876
>the funniest part about those cards is how they have fat/soft faces with glasses. it's the absolute archetype of undesirable male - weak and crippled. So absolute ugly, that not even men with a soft spot for ugly characters like them.
True, and yet another evidence the "muh representation, we want to see ourselves displayed on the card" was complete bullshit or total misunderstanding from JotC from the start of the DEI corpo agenda.
I NEVER wanted to look at frail, ugly nip males with glasses on my cards, i never wanted to associate with them nor even be remembered they exist. I wouldn't want to see me on a card neither. And ofc i clearly don't want to see obese nigresses on wheelchair on my fantasy cards.
If something human-like featured on a card is less than 9/10; then it can only be on a black card to depict a removal : screaming and suffering for being UGLY.

>>96185797
Is there anything better than making a counterspell fag seethe? I get running some exile shit for when you do see that "Oh shit" card pop up here and there, but the full control guy always acts like a smug retard until you blow him out with a well timed trample from your dude with a sword or fuck off T-rex

>>96185797
ay lmao, this is a funny one. hope you had an otherwise good playsession

>>96185746
Can’t speak for it directly but same as with any deck give it a few test runs and identify underperforming cards / weak spots shown in play. Since it’s a counters deck you will want to get fast at counter placing and checks so you don’t slow down the whole game

Master baiter

exquisite blood and sanguine bond is a 2 card combo

thus it does not belong in bracket 3

>>96185809
You can usually figure it out within 2-3 games.
Start by overkill, like 40 lands, then if you feel like you drew too many throughout the game, decrease by 1-2. If it works well in the coming games, stick by that number. If it doesn't, decrease by 1 more, and repeat.

>>96185882
wtf this last line

>>96185890
>have both on board
>nothing happens
cool combo

>>96185890
what part of "no early game 2 card combos" did you not understand?
where are you getting 10 mana in the early game?
besides you need a 3rd card to actually trigger the chain reaction

>>96185890
it's not bracket 3 though?

>>96185898
>Op has it an but can't start it
>Someone paths one of his creature
>despite the table's plees he refuses to take it back

>>96185909
Exquisite blood is $30 from commander alone what the fuck. That card was a bill rare 10 years ago.

>>96185891
Yeah, you're right. I gotta just bite the bullet and sort of do the "tweak" stage at this point

>>96185508
Yeah some people really do abuse the casual part of the game.

>>96185934
Bulk*

>>96185616
Depends on which mono color. Mono white has so much catchup land stuff that it's not impossible to still keep up your land drops with just one land to start. Which color were you using?

>>96185954
Black, and I have things like crypt ghast and other mana gatherers, but I always get them and 1 land or just 2 lands and nothing. I just don't get why I have such bad luck with that deck

>>96185892
It's unironically boomer-tier

>>96185979
Kiddo, it's because you're not running enough mana rocks

>>96185979
Got it. Even with thirty eight still only opening with two sucks. Luck is just like that sometimes. I've felt it a lot with my mono green deck and it's insufferable. You run all the cheap two cost black draw spells, right? It's superstitious I know but when I end up with decks that just have bad land luck I try to run an excess of draw spells to try and compensate. Planning for bad luck isn't much fun but sometimes it's needed.

>>96185995
Damia is much much worse tho.

>>96185979
Look for cards with swamp cycling. Check that your average cmc is low enough to warrant only 38 lands, if not add some.

>>96185909
what site is this

>>96185909
>trusting edhrec for anything

>>96185909
>npcrec

>>96186017
Yeah but she's sultai which makes her more based

>>96186017
Sure, it's FIREd up, but it's not that crazy

>>96185836
The guy was playing selesnya enchantress. I'm not exactly sure how you concluded he was using counterspells from this story where he used 2 extremely common white cards.

You do have an unsleeved deck you riffle shuffle and ruberband between games right?

You going to the prerelease bros

Is using Cecil as a commander BM?

>>96186103
Nah I'm doing gen con next weekend instead of any magic stuff. I could pay 20 bucks to play commander and get some prize tickets with a horrible exchange rate if I beat three pub stoppers. Might so a draft if I've got time in my sched. Missed out on the events I did want.

>>96185128
>>96185114
>hand vs battlefield
These aren't the same at all
>>96185114
The trick is to run effects that let you sacrifice to dodge exile, and have some stuff to protect/reanimate him

>>96186103
an all tranny event sounds genuinely challenging like they actually are the audience for draft id be fighting for my life

>>96186103
Ladies play free this is where I’ll meet my wife.

>>96185797
Im so confused by this post not a single word of it makes sense. Why are you activating it in response to removal? That doesn't stop the removal. And how are you activating it in the same turn after the first ability resolved? It loses the ability to copy until the end of turn.

>>96186103
no because I'm not welcome, apparently

>>96186185
Are you new?

>>96186133
The issue is protecting shirei himself in mono black. Black has a lot of indestructible/"if this would die return it" stuff. But almost no hexproof or ways to dodge exile. There's what, kayas ghostform?

Gretchen, Biome-chan, and Tymora's Invoker

>>96186185
Here's a breakdown of the game actions
>Swords target dragon
>Activate dragon in response to spell
>Path in response to activation
>Activate dragon again in response to spell
>Priority passes, stack begins to resolve
>Dragon turns into Silumgar, Drifting Death, which has hexproof
>Path tries to resolve while targeting a creature with hexproof, spell fizzles from all targets being illegal
>Fail to find, nothing happens
>Swords tries to resolve while targeting a creature with hexproof, spell fizzles from all targets being illegal

>>96186213
You run a sacrifice effect to avoid exile. Throw it in your yard, then reanimate it

>>96186263
That makes more sense

>>96182841
>first elk removing manarocks outta people's decks and replacing them with 5+ mana spells
>now this
is this a new psyop?

>>96186249
Damn that activated ability fucking sucks!

>>96185882
Nothing about this is black. They couldn't have at least made them lose life for each card drawn and make him a bit cheaper?

>>96186355
villains are black

>>96185646
Set sucks. Near zero support for anything that isn't artifacts or counterslop.

>>96186432
Don't forget landfall. All a bunch of super degenerate archetypes that didn't really need new support.

>>96186300
It's basic engagement bait. Up and down the power scale of EDH mana rocks are played and are provably good. Beyond just ramping your bombs out in a format where you've got a huge safety blanket of 40 life helping to pay for commander tax once they're dead is obviously useful. But it all loops around to the message these channels all love to push like no tomorrow: your commander should be kind of dogshit to fly under the radar. It shouldn't meaningfully matter to your gameplan if they die. Your real plan should be a generically good pile of cards that function independently from your commander's effect combined with absolute machiavellian rat mentality to socially manipulate the table into killing each other while downplaying yourself.

Seriously, every one of them pushes this. I feel bad for their playgroups for having to put up with these douchebags.

>>96186103
I love the game, hate the playerbase. I want nothing to do with 99% of you. I don't even want to know you exist. I will never go to any community events.

>>96186432
>>96186438
Artifacts are inevitable, counter slop is fun for some and generally slow, they didn’t put any proliferate in the standard set that I saw. And I might be the outlier but I like landfall :D

>>96186456
>Being afraid to telegraph your strength
The weak should fear the strong. I will be the Archenemy every single game if I must and I will take my getting eliminated first as a badge of honor.

So what bracket are precons? 2? I don't get how upgraded/custom precons could be 2s if thats where a normal precon goes.

>>96185809
Start with 38 and some ramp. Adjust based on performance. If your CMC is high go up. If it's low you can go down but I wouldn't dip below 36 unless you're playing a cEDH deck with a very specific gameplan.

>>96186484
Most precons are 2, some are 3.

>>96186484
"average precon" is supposed to be 2. they keep making precons that are firmly bracket 3 or "oops two card combo," however.
there are legitimately garbage precons, and you could upgrade those and end up with a 2, or just make such bad or negligible "upgrades" that something stays at a 2.

>>96186484
Brackets (and especially 2 and 3) are pretty broad definitions of deck capabilities. And precons vary a lot. Some precons are pushing 3 right out of the box while others might take tons of work and still not quite make it out of 2.

>>96186484
2 unless it's an over or underachiever. They're designed with same considerations as a bracket 2. The face commanders that end up rocketing off to bracket 4 and cEDH rarely bring over much of the precon they're from so even something like the Stella Lee precon isn't really that much higher than the usual precon even though she's Ms. Potential.

>>96186456
>your commander should be kind of dogshit to fly under the radar
all but one of his commanders are KOS so idk about that

why is there such a shortage of 4 color commanders

>>96186547
4 color is awful for flavor (defined only by the color they are missing) and requires basically a full "all colors" mana base to run anyway. Anything they try to make for it usually just keyword soup or a bunch of unrelated abilities. At that point it might as well be 5-color. Partners is probably the most elegant solution they have come up with for it.

>>96186547
Difficult to design for as admitted by Maro himself. Partners were an attempt to design for 4C and they were a mistake. 3C is the sweet spot where it causes a meaningful change to deck construction. Once you add another color to a 3C you wrap around into just being WUBRG excluding a color and that's not interesting.

>>96184582
Yeah I can imagine that cause the US has that

>>96186563
Specific partner X with Y is fine, the problem was generic partner.

>>96185882
>3 doc ocks
>they all suck as a commander
feels bad

>>96186103
My shop is too popular now after they moved locations. You basically have to sign up for pre-releases 3 weeks in advanced. And I don't make plans like that weeks ahead of time.

>>96186572
Better luck with Spock, the Rock, and Hulk Hogan.

Is carpet of flowers good enough to run generally or is it strictly meta-dependent?

>>96186582
I'm waiting for every single power ranger.

>>96186569
I like partner with but yeah generic partner is my least favorite mechanic in Magic. It doesn't help that doctor's companion is the same shit meaning I have to see ten trillion combinations of AIDS and syphilis all over ever color combination in EDHRec. Background was a better mechanic.

>>96186547
Just play Fourteenth Doctor, bro.

>>96186456
I hate this mentality so fucking much because commanders giving more identity to a deck is probably one of the few good things to happen to the format, shifting us away from "every game is Gay Bolas goodstuff pile."
But no, instead we have YouTubers promoting playing commanders that are generic value engines irrelevant to your goodstuff 99 because it's easier to downplay your deck this way and harder to disrupt it.
Jesus christ this even plagues cEDH take me back to the days of Arcum Dagssom instead of more fucking blue farm with zero chokepoints.

>>96186583
It's definitely good enough to run. Don't play it turn 1 though. Wait for the blur player to put down some islands then use it as a permanent ritual.

>>96186456
The commonality is people who idolize competitive 1v1 but suck too much to actually play it.

this was talked about quickly in a previous thread with stuff like colored artifacts, but I'd like to point out that it allows vehicles and spaceships too.

Posting this before I lie down for a bit, had a lot of fun with this. My favorite card in the deck so far is Auron, he really puts pressure on people with low power creatures with big effects

>>96186611
who cares it's not a "real" card

>>96186611
There is but one real option

>>96186611
When EoE came out they changed the rules so that vehicles and spacecraft can be commanders, as long as they have power/toughness.

>>96186637
Summon: ixion works like auron for repeatable exiles if you use tidus to pull the lore counters off

>>96186563
>Difficult to design
but that's their JOB

>>96186582
>>96186588
For me, it's Mr Rogers with a group hug deck

What does their card do?

>>96186656
Very true, I was always imagining removing counters to get the 2 +1/+1 counter effect over and over but shit that's a good idea

>>96186660
If it's your job to lift wooden dowels and suddenly you're expected to lift logs you're going to have a hard time.

>>96186694
but I have seen them lift logs before. I have picture PROOF

>>96186650
yes but they don't have partner

>>96186688
It’s a cool synergy with proliferate/tidus/summons, gives you good manipulation of their effects

>>96186711
Makes sense, I should use Ixion like that for sure. I cut most of the summons on advice from others, but I may put Valefor back in for repeated bounce. I have a Herald of Secret Streams and Champion of Lambholt I should probably put in too

>>96185508
>rebuild my somewhat shitty but fun tribe deck with a different commander in different colors
>sit down to play, have to mull down to 5 because each hand was <=2 lands, one had none, settle for 3 lands
>absolute rancid non-game ensues, next land was 8 cards deep
>get home, kick some basics out for the usual duals
>ffw next week
>mull to 5 again
>game went better but missed my drops again after the 4th

never has me a deck failed this bad, and rarely was i this tilted in a game of commander. i kept the same amount of lands from my old list, 36, and kicked it up to 37 on my second try

I really dig the art on this card

>>96186770
Yeah nah if you're rocking 36-37 lands and missing drops your problem is probably card drawn and not land count. While you're mathematically almost assured land drop 4 at that count, if you don't have something going for acceleration by then it had better be because your deck doesn't need it: either you have it on your commander or you weren't planning on paying any 'real' mana costs anyhow.

It remains mathematically possible to get fucked anyhow.

>>96186700
the ones they did before are incredibly boring.
of the nephilim dune-brood and ink-treader are the only ones people wanted to play back ages ago, and their niches are covered now. dune-brood was similar to hazezon tamar, and ink-treader is zada and newer blue variants. glint-eye draws cards on hit and lets you 'rummage', witch-maw is a beater, and yore-tiller reanimates.
of the 2016 commanders, ydris and atraxa see play as generic value piles with atraxa exemplifying the "it's just keyword soup" complaint. breya is four color value pile: artifacts edition, and sasika is trash. gays are the most popular of a hated archetype, which is at least somewhat notable.

>>96185701
Mana weaving yields a statistically more random result than mana clumping. If you had infinite perfectly randomized shuffles, most of them would result in a more broad distribution of land throughout the deck, simply because there are more nonland cards than land cards. If mana weaving leads to this outcome, and mana clumping does not, and both methods sufficiently randomize the deck for play, then mana weaving is superior to mana clumping at getting closer to a normal distribution of perfect randomness.

>>96186836
>A bunch of nonsense
Okay retard.

>>96186583
It works in two exact contexts:
>Everyone is running full set of fetches and typed duals
>Monoblue player

>>96185890
>>96185909
The problem with this combo is that it's old and boring. Maybe another 10 years and the novelty will return

>card comes in the mail
>envelope is taped -not using the adhesive at all- with some kind of paper tape like medical tape
>card is in a penny sleeve that is plastic wrapped (food-grade) to a piece of cardboard
>no invoice
these people are deranged

>>96186843
>can't engage logically
typical clumper

Mash shuffling 30 times is true randomness. I always count a minimum of 30 mash shuffles.

>>96186869
What's their to debunk, you just said a bunch of gambler cope.

>>96186881
Mash shuffling is the way. Fast and efficient, change up the section of cards you pull out as you go for greater randomness

It's not random unless you let me unsleeve your cards and riffle shuffle them. Anything else is cheating.

>>96186881
Mana weaving is cheating anyway. Why its explicitly banned.
>But its says its legal
If you shuffle to randomization, which makes entire exercise pointless
>But some more cope about distribution!
No. That's not how randomization works, if every card its two cards away from each other there's just as much chance you will push every land next to one another again.

>>96186836
>Lust provoking image
>Inane babble
name a more iconic duo

>>96186563
three color is just as bad, wedges suck and are boring as shit and just encourage goodstuff slop

>>96186922
>Lust provoking image
bro you doin ok

>Play group didn't get it
Philistines,

>>96186962
Are you exiling your dick between her tits?

>>96186836
You do not understand what random is

>>96186836
If your shuffling produces a truly random result you don't need to mana weave, as it should do nothing.

>>96186979
You cannot randomize your deck in under 20 shuffles

>>96186962
This is awful

>>96186962
This is awesome

>>96186962
the scarlet avenger's logo? it's because she's wearing the letter but her hair's not up, clearly

>>96187012
Don't lie to the man just for a meme

>>96187017
Eh, it gets my dick to twitch.

>>96186985
21 mash shuffles can be done in under a minute

>>96187016
No need to keep your hair up when you're already exiled

>>96187005
Why?

>>96186985
Then do more.

>>96187052
It's fucking garbage slop

>>96186962
>>Play group didn't get it
Get what, that you put fat anime tits on your art? What exactly is there to 'get' here anon?

>>96187076
Read a book.

>>96187066
I will not, I will weave and do a lazy shuffle twice and there will be nothing you can do about it.

>>96187028
What an incredibly low bar

>>96186962
How come the slop I see here all look like baby's first 2024 gens? Do you guys just suck at prompting?