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>>96193198
Oooh, very rich yellow, these are looking damn nice. These are yours, anon?

Hello all. Ages ago I posted the dude on the far left here and I finally finished painting his friends. There is a metal Spawn and 10 more warriors waiting for their turn to be basecoated but I am afraid they will have to wait till November at least.

>>96192862 (OP)
Well, how about I start the ball rolling with a brief battle report? Played a game of 40k2e last Thursday with a friend of mine, it was 1500 points of Blood Axes vs. Iron Snakes. Iron Snake mission was to capture the high ground of the ork settlement and the orks were looking to kick me the fuck out.

I hadn't taken as many photos as I'd have liked, my phone was getting low on battery.

>>96193351
Forces were...
Hero level Chaplain.
Techmarine with a bunch of gear to use up leftover points.

10 man veteran squad with a heavy bolter and a plasma gun, sergeant had a bunch of tactical grenades(all the sergeants and the characters did, in fact.)
A pair of 5 man devastator combat squads with a plasma cannon and autocannon(combat squads from the white dwarf article.)

A pair of dreadnoughts with heavy plasma guns, dreadnought powerfists with stormbolters, and ablative armour upgrades.

A landspeeder with multimelta and heavy flamer.

Orks were composed of...
Warboss in mega armour, powerfist, custom blaster, combat drugs.
Wierdboy and minders.
Kommando captain, he has haywire grenades.
Runtherder and a couple nobs in mega armour, too.


2 big units of gretchin.
Large unit of boys with bolt pistols and axes.
Small unit of blood axe boys in a wartrukk.
A unit of infiltrating kommandos.
4 bases of snotlings

Warbuggie with multimelta
Pair of wartrakks with twin heavy bolters.
An ork dreadnought with lascannon, heavy bolter, and two dreadnought close combat weapons.
Looted Leman Russ.

Am I forgetting anything? Perhaps. I can always ask my mate later what he remembers and clarify.

Deployment
Iron Snakes do something stupid and spread themselves thin to try and meet multiple threats on the table, I don't know why I thought that was a good idea, should have concentrated and set up a killbox to shoot into. Orks have numbers and guns to make concerted push from multiple avenues.

>>96193380
Turn 1.
Orks have the first turn and make use of it by committing to the advance, everything moves up and some shooting goes out, managing to kill a couple of my devastators on my extreme right flank, along with my techmarine in the multimelta blast from my eternal headache, the fucking warbuggie.

In return, the Iron Snakes press cautiously forward with the veterans to form a firing line in the middle and taking a high vantage point with my left flank devastators, I have a plan with my landspeeder thanks to the strategy cards I pulled(flank march and reenforcements) so that was in reserve waiting for turn 2 to spring my pincer attack. My return fire didn't amount to a lot, and I had forgotten to toss blind grenades from the veteran squad(which will cost me).

(3 photos for this)

>>96193401
2/3

>>96193405
3/3

>>96193429
Turn 2.
Orks keep pushing their armour down my right and overwhelm the devastators, one of the dreads I was anchoring their to support them gets zapped with a haywire grenade by the kommando captain after he reveals himself, costing the dread his powerfist. Ancient Deimos is NOT happy. The looted leman russ blasts my left flank devastators killing a couple of them and the veteran squad also takes some casualties.

In return the Iron Snakes start making moves, veterans space out and advance, gunning down some gretchin who had advanced under fire and I remember to deploy blind grenades to cover myself, all surviving devs make their shots count but I am failed by very poor to wound rolls afterwards, the dreadnoughts make a good accounting of themselves, with Ancient Deimos avenging his left arm by stomping forward into a charge on the kommando captain and stamping him into paste, while Ancient Aritas unleashes plasma on the large horde of greenskins in the middle advance, taking out a nice handful of boys, gretchin and one of the nobs.

I also forget about my strategy card to bring in my landspeeder until my turn is almost over, I refuse the offer to go back for it, I'll just have to deal with what comes, play on!

(3 photos)

>>96193442
2/3

>>96193476
3/3

I should make collages of my battle photography to make these reports cleaner, eh, maybe one day I'll actually remember that.

>>96193484
Fuck sake

>>96193498
Turn 3.
Ork infantry advance continues, the blind screens hold, and the kommados reveal themselves and take to shooting at what they can. The warboss decides now's a great time to take A LOT of drugs and in his narcotic haze storms forward to take on Chaplain Nophon. The orks dreadnought repositions itself to stomp through the middle advance and sights Ancient Aritas, a dread fight ensues in the next turn.

Iron Snake assault has undeniably become a failure, with extreme casualties mounting and the landspeeder support still missing from the field, there's little for it but to fight their way clear, to that end shooting goes out to try and thin the herd of greenskins, dreadnoughts move and fire to also try and thin out their numbers but shots go wide or don't hurt enough. The duel between the Warboss and Chaplain ends with Nophon's broken body at the feet of the whooping, overdosing, mongrel warlord, meanwhile Ancient Aritas squares up with their ork counterpart, it's a question if who will get the charge in the next turn.

>>96193514
2 more photos was all I had juice for, but not a lot happened in turn 4 anyway.

>>96193525
Last one, summary of turn 4 and my thoughts next.

>>96193540
Turn 4.
In this turn we were too pressed for time, so it was more finishing up the engagements that had happened in turn 3. To summarise, Ancient Deimos traded shots with the various ork vehicles to no effect, the dreadnoughts had their punch up, poor rolls on my part saw Ancient Aritas eating shit and getting his legs snipped off, Landspeeder arrived but far too later for it to matter.

In the end, a very clear Ork victory. And a fun day or gaming. Hopefully I can start making good decisions next time instead of the same mistakes over and over again. Codex Ultramarines doesn't seem to stand out all that much, but I think I'm really not looking deep enough to utilise what's there more effectively. I think a lot of my issues just comes down to impulsice deployment patterns which leads me to not being able to mass my firepower effectively, if I can just unfuck myself there then I reckon I can get some convincing wins to come in. Past that, I've been immensly enjoying myself and 40k2e, it really is a very charming and detailed game and I look forward to more in the future. In fact I'm going to start banging the drum for it and seeing who else locally wants to come and play some retro40k, there's a few shops and clubs in town, surely I can find more people who'd want to give it a go.

>>96193576
And a final treat, I had mentioned to my mate and regular opponent for these games that I was gathering parts for a 3e blood angel army as a modelling project, and what do you know, he's got some death company from a blood angels project of his own he wasn't keen on anymore. So now I've got a lovely boost to my force and some lovely classic models to work on. What a legend.

That's 9 death company and a chaplain plus enough arms and weapons to go around. Can't wait to get to work on these!

>>96193617
That's lovely anon. I wish I could be that generous with others but I'm a miniatures hoarder

So, what are people working on lately anyone else been playing games they'd like to share? I've been chipping away at the Iron Snakes here a little more and I have that blood angel project I mentioned too. But I've got some orks and an Imperial Giard force in the pipeline too. Building these all for playing stuff from 1st to 4th edition. Keeping points and model counts low-ish. Making collections to fit roughly 1000-1500 for each edition.

>>96194875
I'm prepping to do some Primaris (I know I know) marines in RT Salamader colors. I want to play Kill Team so really need Primaris, but at least want to make them as non-lame as possible.

>>96194916
RT Salamanders did look pretty baller, I can dig it, at least.

>>96194875
Due heat and everybody being super busy during summer, games have been on hiatus for a while, but we did play one game of 2nd ed too. I played with orks as usual but my opponent picked up harlequins and gave everyone displacer fields, that was interesting.

I've been painting my chaos dwarf army for TOW, here's a wip of lammasu I'm painting, absolutely one of my favorite models ever.

Well, got most of the stuff ready, if all goes well gonna try to get to bring out your lead this year, wanted to go before but sorta going alone didn't feel like would be good idea.

Here is hoping world doesn't impload before then

>>96196339
Enjoy lad. I'm gutted but I'm literally going to Australia. If they let you have two event miniatures I'll trade you my 2023 spare Navigator

>>96193198

clean

Sup grog. Got my hands on some more stuff. Been looking for one of these for ages.

What's the best retro edition and why is it 7th edition?

>>96201901
7th is barely retro since it only stopped being in print like last week.
It needs to be heavily modified to be fun.
I would argue RT and 2nd are best.
3rd is a bit too...simple and basic

>>96202900
2nd edition, best edition

We played a game of 2nd ed again, this time with a scenario. We had a newcomer who was interested in tau so that's what he played with. Scenario was Devilfish Down, where squad of pathfinders had to regroup with another squad in middle of the table while orks closed in on them from all directions. Win condition was to either leave the table edge or defend the position. Game lasted 3+d3 turns to make it harder to plan for strategy. At the end of turn 3 we rolled for 5 turns, so Tau player decided to hold position since it was unlikely he would reach the edge and orks were surrounding his forces fast.

>>96203583
Effort was good but orks had the numbers and swarmed the pathfinders position with gretchin. This scenario has been in back of my mind for a while, it was fun to see it play out. Players enjoyed it too, I think we scored a new player for our group.

>>96197589
Very nice find, I'm happy for you

>>96201901
>What's the best retro edition
4th, I won't elaborate.

>>96203672
I agree lad. I just like keeping it simple and 4th is probably the best point of that.

>>96201901
Best retro edition is 4th. 2nd caters to very particular tastes when compared to modern 40k due to its smaller size and much different "style, to the rest of the games lifetime. Meanwhile 6th and 7th are barely retro (and not good edition), and 5th is problematic with its rules imo.

Wow, this exists. Cool

>>96203955
Grog never dies, we just take vacations.

>>96193320
Magnificent Nurglers, I raise you a grainy photo of my regiment of chaos warrior horse & various other twisted and/or stunted mutants launching an ambush from the woods

>>96203583
>>96203597
Sounds like a fun scenario, I think I'll give this a try myself. I've been really enjoying asymmetric play lately, it lends itself to those cool moments that can make a story on their own.

>>96192862 (OP)
DIY is in the spirit of grog-hood right?

I've been making my own acrylic washes, and haven't really had some proper criticism and feedback on other places I've posted this stuff on what I've made so far.
Basically the objective is idiot proof ink washes that are "soft-bodied" so they don't stain flat surfaces that much but stain recesses and raised details just fine.
In my ink experimentation I made a devlan mud/strong tone (strong tone mimics devlan mud) looking acrylic ink wash and a black wash.

I could genuinely use some criticism and feedback on how I did, and what I could do to improve the ink washes.
>inb4 oils and enamels
I just want to stubbornly stick with acrylics.

>inb4 recipe link requests
Here.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/261541.page

>>96204516
If you do, please post your game here, I'd like to see it

Dear grogs. I have a question about the catalogue pdfs. In the link of the OP, 1996 citadel Journal is 265 megabytes. Why is that? Did someone shove every known keylogger in that one or is the scan that high quality that you can zoom into the papers wooden fibers? The 1983 one seems to be a jarring jump from 1-5mb on average to 43 megs, 240 is crazy.

>>96206629
Most likely shitty compression and/or uploader unwilling to compromise on resolution or quality.

First one of my oldhammer army. Boguht tons of 1st and 2nd edition stuff last couple of years, just need some time to paint all.

Forgot to upload picture

>>96204767
You’re making something so it is in the diy spirit of grogginess and I can’t really see what’s wrong with it so I guess you did alright.

>>96194875
Past sunday I played a 4000 point megabattle of 40K 3E with my friends, as the final scenario of our latest campaign. A coalition of Imperial and Xenos former enemies had to destroy a Necron portal before the Necrons overran the planet. The Necrons won, but it was close.

>>96204980
I will, for sure. I almost always share my games here, I posted the battle report at the start of the thread!

>>96192862 (OP)
>>96192862 (OP)
Fellow Grognauts, I bought two squads of mk6 on the cheap and have decided to go full rogue trader with them, squad one will have the classic 10 men inc sgt, flamer and missile launcher, i'm thinking combo disintegrators for squad two?

Also, rapiers obviously, any suggestions? Dark angels with the red checks for colour scheme.

>>96192862 (OP)
What was going on with Space Wolf heraldry in the 3rd & 4th era? Every photo I see from that time uses this weird icon-based system but suddenly come 5th Edition it's back to the classic red/black/yellow/white zigzags.

Hey grogs, you wouldn't happen to know of any stls of 2nd edition(?) raptor backpacks? You know the ones with the batwings. I seem to be one short for my squad. Doesn't have to be perfect just good enough.

>>96209308
Not an STL but
https://bitsofwar.com/all-wicked-legionaries/171-chaos-legionary-winged-jump-pack.html

>>96209308
>of 2nd edition(?)
3rd, if that helps your search.

>>96203672
I've got the 4th ed CRB and the Space Marine Codex, so I feel like building a 4th ed Marine army.

>>96203572
I need a sauce on those lizard minis, please.

>>96208934
IIRC, they originally had different iconography based on which great company they were from, and had the heraldry of the guy leading that company.

When they finally started getting box sets with transfers, this went out the window because everyone just used the decals in the box (which were originally just for a single great company).

I might be remembering incorrectly though.

>>96203672
Honestly? Early to mid 1st ed. The rules are slow, and a bit jank, but the factions largely weren't plastered with faction-specific wargear, weapons and rules... until you started using all the expansions (like the Realm of Chaos rules and later Eldar and Nid lists).

>>96217443

The pirate captain was the event miniature at Lead & Steel in Sheffield this year, sculpted by Warfactory and cast by Ramshackle.

https://magpieandoldlead.blogspot.com/search/label/Slann

>>96219336
The reasons why you prefer early 1st are honestly the reasons I don't see the appeal - it's so formless it's basically not even an IP in those days, just an excuse to sell whatever third party minis GW had leftover molds for, so if that's your thing why tie yourself down to GW's rules and fluff - such as it was - at all?

40K frankly doesn't really start being 40K until the latter third of RT once the core parts of the setting are nailed down.

>>96219862
I disagree with this position, the core of the setting is already eatablished from the word go. As the edition went on it only kept on expanding that, what we know the space marines to be is laid down in the RT rulebook and then elaborated on again in the white dwarf article a month or two later. And it's the same again as for the orks and eldar and tyranids, all have the fundamentals of who and what they are defined and then elaborated on again in later supplements to the degree that we all know them to be from later editions. 40k was 40k from the start, and it was only the rule system itself that saw major development from a traditional, managed wargame with an encouraged arbitrator into the more structured game we're more familiar with now. The fluff additions of later editions really don't change a lot, there's in introduction and reduction of named characters as time went on, elaborated and introduced timeline events(Badab gets expanded and things like Picsina IV, Ichar V, EoT, Armaggedon are introduced), minor details about the factions we first saw in RT changed, had parts dropped or retconned, or had new things added in, but they were still mostly the same as introduced.

This may be a silly question, but where can I buy metal recasts of 1st or 2nd edition space marines, if there are any? I don't really care that they're not original. I just don't like the plastic.

>>96229184
there are some recasters dealing in that yes, though you might need to use some rather secretive forges for it

>>96229224
how?

>>96231371
oh there is a hint in that post on what you are after

>>96229184
You have tons of them on eBay, no need to buy recasts. My suggestion is to buy a big batch. You can get them for cheap, even new and still sealed blisters, especially if you are in the US or UK. If you are somewhere else then the offer is smaller and you will need to pay big shipping and taxes which sucks. I envy people from UK or US just for this one thing, they get cheaper minis

>>96239352
That’s depressing if US and UK prices are cheaper than wherever you’re at.

I got the a 2nd edition starter set sans marine minis for 100$ on a whim. Not sure if I'm gonna actually paint the fellows or just use the box as decoration.

Yesterday I played a 1v1v1 skirmish game with my friends, using 40K 3E with some house rules stolen from Mordheim. Our last game was an Apocalypse battle where Orks, Necrons and Chaos joined forces to defeat a Eldar-Imperial alliance, so in this game the former allies betray each other and go on the hunt for a loot of archeotech.

The Chaos player found the stuff first and fleed with it to the other side of the table using his jumpack equipped Marines, the coward...

Since the game was quick, we decided to play a second game. But we didn't have a new scenario prepared, so I offered to GM the scenario included in Rogue Trader, Battle at the Farm (with the Dark Angels playing the role of the Imperial Fists). I'm sure the table layout will be familiar to some of you.

This second game was also great fun. And while I houseruled that the Orks would have a Dreadnought to even the odds, the Space Marines won the scenario (as usual).

Both games were great fun, so now we're talking of starting a new campaign set on the Eye of Terror, using 3E 40K. Also the guys at the club are preassuring me to join their Mordheim campaign. But all that might have to wait for a bit, since for the next month I'll be working on getting my germans ready for a Bolt Action v3 tournament.

How about you friends? Any grog games this weekend?

What's your Top 3 Old World factions right now and what's your Top 3 most desired new (old) factions you hope to see (RE)released?

>>96203672
4th with 3rd ed army books thoughever

>>96247051
>drinks on table

Where can i find these online? Only managed to find 14, 16 and a snippet of number 13.

>>96256151
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>>96203583
Is there any fanmade rule set for 2nd edition tau? Could you share?

>>96256166
Thanks.
Any chance to get the other two original 1st ed releases from the later inquisition war trilogy? All i can find online are the 2000s reprints with some details changed.

>>96256436
Thats all I got, sorry. I'd love to add them to mega if you happen to find them

Any ideas for urban terrain?
I wanna make some Khrushchevka style apartment blocks that stand really tall(a foot?) and are about one foot by one foot, because I'm a slave to spectacle.
I'm not really sure other than that. I was thinking ground floor would just be a generic foyer, but I like the idea of mixed development, where theres a store on the ground level, or even on the ground and first levels, or maybe make the ground and first floor a transit hub?
But if not mixed developments, then maybe seperate buildings for warehouse stores? Like grimdark Costco.
Any other ideas for infrastructure or buildings would be appreciated. I was thinking office buildings might be a good idea too?
Any ideas for industrial would be appreciated too. I was thinking power relays/transformers, and big saw tooth roofed buildings that could be either manufactories or warehouses.

>>96256166
Fuggin' sweet gunna download later

>>96256166
Is this not a magnet link?
When I try to add it it says "couldnt add torrent".

>>96258656
You need to decode

>>96208934
Rather than using color trims to show which company they belong to and symbol to show what type of marine they are. They switched it around... so they are instead using colors to indicate what type of marine they are (tac, assault, vet...etc..), and each squad then got their own symbols.
And instead of using color trims to show what company they belong to, they got a company marking instead of a chapter marking.

Sadly this kinda ends up with every artist drawing every single Space Wolf as if they belong to the Ragnar Blackmane company.

>>96257845
Commie bloc countries build a lot of shit according to templates. Like, you could find almost identical 2-level shopping malls across the country (also interesting cover-wise). Garages are a popular fixture too.

>>96257845
Also state allotment gardens if you want a village in a city.

>>96258729
Some people do minor diffrences between each of the companies.

>>96258729
>>96258749
Should point out that the Ironwolves and Firehowlers have changed company marking with their new leadership.

>>96258739
cool, im wanting to build template style because itll be easier for me to make multiples of them.
maybe make the first two levels different stores(grocers, garages, hardware, ect), and then generic hallways with rooms. Rooms i was thinking could look like pic related.
this way I can just have seperate levels and players at my local can just grab as many levels as they want. Maybe make a few "destroyed" levels so you can have only half a building(could also use it as a way to destroy building in game)

>>96258747
whats that mean? like, a communal garden building?

>>96258891
>whats that mean? like, a communal garden building?
More like a bunch of small dachas on a fenced area divided into individual gardens for private (not exactly, but eh) owners who can build little houses on their lots, plant vegetables for extra food variety (remember that communism = shortages, and they hit city people much harder than villagers who grew their own food) or just decorative gardens to have a private leisure retreat.

>>96258978
Oh, fascinating. Something like pic related could probably be well suited for such a concept. Would give variety to the city scape as well; more terrain options fr players at my local.
Two stories tall, open concept(aka empty and bleak to not only hammer in the dystopic imperial lifestyle but also got models inside of) and backyard with hydroponics or something. Maybe a bench.

>>96259049
Also, re: shopping malls, I did NOT meant the big GUM-style department stores, but the smaller ones with lots of individual shops exiting to common outdoor paths. You'd have to go binge image search and save whatever looks interesting, for Polish ones you could search "pawilony handlowe prl", not sure how these types are called in other languages.

>>96259049
>>96259146
Also depending on whether you're playing the war in Ukraine or some fall-of-the-USSR scenario, they'll either be repainted/renovated/converted (sometimes with a lot of really garish ad billboards/banners), or left dilapidated, half-empty and covered with graffiti, which adds to a brutalist feel.

>>96259049
What you posted is very much not allotment gardens, but some panel commieblocks did have such little gardens next to them, complete with alt entrances to ground floor apartments through balconies. (picrel, also holy fuck is it hard to find decent pics of commieblock gardens)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotment_(gardening)

>>96259146
oh yeah, like strip malls here in the west? Thatll give me opportunities to make fun and cool stores.

>>96259166
Im basically jsut trying to do generic "40K Imperial City" or "Generic Cyberpunk City" so that people at my local can plop it down for any futuristic game, or have any of the 40k players feel right at home(most played factions here are space marines, chaos, and tau, followed closely by orks and imperial guard). Was thinking of just making all the buildings dreary and grey, but maybe Ill make em look like NYC Art Deco with those mute and faded colors you see on soviet buildings?

>>96259227
ooooh, i Get ya now. it looks like it can either be just a massive plot of land thats just subdivided into tiny cottages with gardens, or just straight up a park that people in a neighboring apartment complex tend to(presumably with their own little sections fenced off)

working on some 3rd ed cityfight things, does anyone know if there was ever a painting guide for the 122nd cadians (the grey urban camo) posted in a WD or something? I can manage with just the pictures from the cityfight battle report but just thought i'd ask. cheers.

>>96256210
Yeah we've been using this one, dunno where I got it originally. It's pretty good.

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Can anyone help me find the 3rd edition homebrew Knights codex? It's an option in New Recruit, but my google-fu has been hampered by the existence of 3rd edition 30k.

>>96259663
From the Eye of Terror codex.

>>96256151
rebrand-dot-ly/oldhammer

There was an 80's dragon that Citadel used to sell in pewter, some company had the license to it and did a limited pewter run again and sells it in resin now. (not Ral Partha) Does anyone know what site this is? I can't remember the URL or what dragon it was.

>>96258739
I got one better, soviet era kindergardens are so similar that if you were to enter one, others will be the same. I been to a few and was a kid in one, it's weird how you can walk into buildding and know it immediatly.

>>96263074
Oh shit, you're right! I too went to one as a kid and they do have pretty distinctive shapes.

>>96261672
awesome, thanks

Posting here because I am doing a jungle for my playing group's 3rd edition combat patrol, not properly grog, but nothing like nu40k's l-shaped ruins. Here is a shot of all my current pieces.

>>96265746
Nice jungle Anon, where did you get the trees?

>>96266158
Aliexpress, same with almost all the plants.

>>96263119
If you walk inside, it's fully possible you will immediatly know the layout too

Has anyone got the FAQs released at the start of 4th?

Grogging with a dead 40k competitor. I bought this boxed set and am pretty excited.

>>96272582
Old official painting guide telling beginners right off the bat to underpaint with yellow, use normal thinned paints as washes, and mix paints. Love it

>>96272546
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>>96272593
Never heard of this in my life, looks cool tho, do post them if you get around to painting some

>>96273974
Oh yeah. It's happening. Assembling them this week, probably won't paint th until next month. Assembling these Junker troops SUCKS. It's worse than assembling Eldar Guardians and I'm going to have to add greenstuff all over for gaps

>>96275129
Based

>>96266465
Damn looks good, what did you search to get those? I tried searching for plastic terrarium plants and didn't get the results I was hoping for.

>>96269580
mega /folder/p95WHYiY#2TZFnrI1vbRtjRSQLWNuYg

>>96272546
>dead
https://www.seb-games.com/store/void/viridians/void-2-0-gamebox/
It's still around with what looks to be the same sprues in the starter box.

>>96277268
Kinda sorta. It's a different edition of the rules and being remade by a new company. Every time I check it seems like the rights to Void are with a different company, so it's a brand that kind of sporadically exists.

>>96275129
Continuing cleanup I'm noticing subtle design differences compared to some of the metal minis I own. An annoying one is that the thigh pouches have been removed from the sculpt, but instead of resulting something else it's just a flat blank spot like it's meant for a piece to glue there but none are provided in the box. Looking close at the box art minis even they just have this flat awkward spot. So I'm digging through my bits box to find enough pouches and grenade bits to cover up at least the right (more visible) thigh on each mini.
So anyone wondering, yes I am clipping them off the sprue with cheap clips but this is exceptionally soft plastic which is causing all the deformation. I'm scraping and I'll be green stuffing. At least it appears the should pads cover the should joint so I'll gs it but it doesn't need to be perfect

>>96279469
*sharp clips
Jesus Christ autocorrect

>>96193198
Oh now this is hot.

>>96275129
>Assembling these Junker troops SUCKS
So bad it put me off playing.

>>96277244
Many thanks kind anon

>>96283967
LMAO

Does anyone have the mega link that has the old white dwarfs in it? Thanks a lot.

Is there a rules compilation similar to the 2e Battle Bible for Rogue Trader? Some friends been discussing about actually playing with RT rules and I'd like to have all the rules in a convenient package, rather than browsing through years of White Dwarfs for every little tweak or addition.

>>96286850
Good question! I haven't heard of such but I'll be interested to see if someone else has.

Unrelated note, do we ever find out anything substantial lore wise about the Necromundan 8th. The supposed "Spider Clan"? They're said to be very powerful on the planet, but I don't recall them getting mentioned in Necromunda.

First named Guard regiment and they have almost no lore, kinda sad.

Chipping away. Scraped away the vestigial thigh pads from all 30 guys and did a first pass mold clean. Gave out 15 shotguns. There's supposed to be two squad leaders but there's no special bits so I found a pair of leftover helmet plumes to make the squad leaders stand out.

>>96287518
If you have spare sculpting material I think you should make some of them have two handed holding poses for some of the shotguns, just like cutting up and rotating the arms you know?
Would spice it up some

>>96287827
They are all going to be holding shields, and I'm trying to keep them decently vanilla. However I have 15 leftover shotguns, so maybe someday they'll arm someone else.

>>96283967
those are some fucking painful layer lines, goodness

Played a game of Space Crusade again, last time was last Christmas. Almost got my ass handed to me as a clone player but managed to pull throught against 3 space marine players with skin on my teeth.

Anyone have the Strategy Games Series rulebooks scanned? I only have the official Battle for Armageddon and Chaos Attack scans from 2000.

>>96293066
iirc, the trick to playing the Chaos player is...close assault. Except for with the dreadnought. The white dice are so bad that even a gretchin has a passable chance of killing a marine. Only the Marine Captains are a risk up-close.

That said, your job is to make the game fun for the marine players, rather than to beat them to death with your minions.

>>96286850
>Is there a rules compilation similar to the 2e Battle Bible for Rogue Trader?

Yes! It's a book called Warhammer 40,000 : Rogue Trader . You don't need anything other than that to play, although I do most strongly recommend the Realm of Chaos supplements.

In all seriousness, I've found that most of the rules adjustments from white dwarf are not changes to the main text per say, they're more often additional special rules or equipment for specific armies. Things like Harlequins ability to make an extra move past an opponent as they fight them in close combat, or improving space marines toughness and weaponskill when they're wearing their powered armor. As well as more organized and proscribed army lists for most factions, namely genestealer cults and harlequins. These can all be found in the collected volumes "Compendium" and "Compilation". Not to mention the famous Ork books, and the aforementioned Realm of Chaos books

Once you get to the point where they started changing things like how combat and vehicles work you might as well just play 2nd edition because the spark that makes it uniquely rogue trader is gone and it feels too streamlined.

Keep it in the 80s.

>>96295709
Yeah melee meta is powerful if you know how to play it, you have to force marines into melee on their own turn to make them waste their shooting, especially against heavy weapons. Yeah, as a chaos player you have to balanced the game to avoid shitting on marine players and not letting them walk over you. My style is to divide blips into stacks and shuffle them, that way I know what kind of pieces I have on board without knowing which one is what, keeps it interesting for everyone. My players also do some pvp, like shooting missile launchers into empty squares and blasting gretchins with plasma when theres another marine behind it. Fuckers also blockade each others boarding torpedos.

>>96295820
You need to figure out what rules you want to use beforehand. You can play the game with only the Rogue Trader rulebook, but there are actually 13 rulebooks containing separate rules for the game... well... 12 really - one of the Ork books only contains fluff.

>>96293349
BTW this means Doom of the Eldar and Horus Heresy (the original, not FFG).

>>96295939
If that's you're personal collection, it's admirable - And in a sense, I agree with you there, I'm saying the best way to figure out what rules he wants to use is to start with the main rulebook and branch out from there. It sounds like he hasn't played this edition much before, so he's going to have a tough time trying to manage all those books at once when just the first has more than enough content for years of gameplay. It also depends on what army he plays, he's not going to get a lot of mileage out of slaves to darkness (my personal favorite book) if he only plays Imperial Guard now is he?

>>96293349
Yes. I did the clean up and layout to pdf of another anon's great scans of Doom of the Eldar.
The Horus Heresy rulebook is an older web pack scan but quite ok.
gofile:
d/XRKkbB
Realized I never compiled a pdf of the HQ Warmaster (White Dwarf) scans so I'm doing that now.

>>96298330
Thanks a lot! Would you also happen to have an actual scan of Battle for Armageddon?

>>96298353
Sure thing, it will be in that same folder shortly. Waiting for SuperPNG to quantize the Warmaster stuff, then I'll get to it.

>>96298353
>>96298443
No, I lied. All I have is the original web release of Battle for Armageddon, token pic related.
The good scans are for the Chaos Attack expansion. And sadly still raw.

Edited the Warmaster cover from the Spanish edition. While the black and white cover is classic GW, the Spanish page fucking rips.

>>96247081
No offense, but you should ask this in the fantasy general. I know op says old hammer, but it essentially means old 40k and sometimes specialist games. Luckily, wfg doesn't mind talking old hammer, while 40kg is dedicated to modern editions, hence the creation of this general.

Anyway I like skaven, dark elves and chaos lol

>>96298330
>HQ Warmaster (White Dwarf) scans
oh shit
oh fuck
yes please

>>96298622
Fucking whew.

Anyone have any recommendations on stl makers for Fantasy? I can't really afford to chase down old plastic/metal but I do have a 3d printer.

>>96298943
Are you doing this shit by hand?

>>96287322
They have a very small role in the infamous space marine book.

40k'er here. 3rd edition rules with 3rd edition codecies, or 4th edition rules with whatever mix of codecies my group would sign off on?

>>96299321
If a wacom tablet and photoshop clone stamp/heal brush is by hand, then sure.
Preserving the artifacts of the original printing process is kind of important in preservation. Not going to just rescale, descreen, blur, and sharpen like all the scanlation webrip AI shitters. Waste of 1200 dpi scans.

Anyone get to BOYL this weekend?

I sadly am away on the other side of the world at the moment. This was the event miniature

>>96298628
Absolutely not. This board does not need another 40k exclusive general, and these threads are getting to be crudded up to uselessness by the tedious middlehammer numbercrunching. His question was fairly stupid, but don't use that as an excuse to try and squeeze fantasy out of our oldhammer thread.

I for one would like to see more weird and disarticulated Old-school fantasy stuff. Individual figures, dioramas, concept art, whatever advances the cause

>>96287518
Glacial progress

>>96301359
I'm not? And where the fuck is this alleged discussion of fantasy? I definitely don't see it in this thread. I'm not trying to prune shit im just saying that /grog/ is pretty much the unofficial old edition 40k general.

To be clear, I enjoy both settings. I just know that unless you wanna talk about old 40k shit, you got better luck in wfg

>>96299640
latter

>>96300948
Oh it was again already? I wonder if the bongs behind the wall who usually posted about BOYL attented

Question for midhammer(?) grogs: I wanna collect a small force of Elysian Drop Troops, and was wondering what a typical, well rounded, yet lore-accurate army list would look like for them.
Any experience would help. Codex: Armageddon, Taros 3rd and 5th eds, even the Harakoni Warhawk regimental doctrine from the 3.5 codex.
From reading the Taros book and the Codex: Armageddon, it seems to be mostly infantry with special weapons supported by valks that act both as transport and flying tanks, maybe with some drop Sentinels acting as weapon platforms for the boys. Drop in on objectives, and try to snatch as many victory points as possible before you're dead?
Thanks in advance!

>>96310458
Basically yeah, anything that is either drop in or flying fits with them. Just know your opponents will hate you.

I know most of you don't count it as old hammer, but 5th edition is getting pretty long in the tooth, so I bought myself a box of Assault on Black Reach and I can't wait to work on it and play with it again. The funky little monopose Space Marines, the sickass Dreadnought, the Commander, the 5 man squad of Terminators, the Ork Boyz with their Deffkopta support, Nobs and Warboss.

>>96286775
Bump. I know one of you has it.

>>96313613
Any reasons why my opponents would hate me? Is it really that hard to deal with deep striking guardsmen? Or is it the valks that are annoying?

>>96313849
My fav models are almost exclusively the Orks in that box, with special guest the Marine Captain. Those deffkoptas are definitive for me imo; as a kid I never liked the metal model but fell in love with the plastics from AoBR. And the Nobz were just really impressive for how simple they are. And the details on the warboss is so fucking good. That shotgun in the holster on his back? Ooooh marone

>>96313849
Actual kino set
Peak starter set unironically
This one and the 2nd edition starter
The newer ones can't even begin to compare

>>96272593
Cool!
Speaking of, how do you underpaint yellow? Either brown or pink, depending on what kind of yellow you want, right?

>>96314137
I do. But i am off to a wedding and cant be arsed to host it until monday. Hold tight anon, i promise i will do it once i come back

>>96314137
Sorry, anon with the archive, here she is again. Full folder, you get Citadel Journal and Fanatic magazine in there, too.

aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZvbGRlci9NWG95RGFRRCNHSU1fV0ZpWFRPb282MUNvbl9KSVV3

Scrambled the usual way, enjoy.

>>96316862
>>96316893
Thanks a lot anons, really helped me out :)

>>96315922
When the finally color is yellow I personally use Vallejo's Iraqi Sand. I've tried pink and it just didn't work out for me. Picrel how I paint it. I usually use an orange wash gently in the recess or painted over certain area like a glaze. If it's on hard armor I'll highlight the edges up to white.
For this painting guide I think the intention of yellow over white was fine since the yellow itself is an underlayer so any sport hung will be covered.

>>96318528
*any splotches will be covered

Jesus Christ autocorrect, get it together

Finished my Lammasu, what a great model. I think it's my favorite model I've painted so far. Anyway, it's first of many, got so many more to paint for my chorf army.

>>96314515
>the Orks in that box,
I have very nostalgic memories of them too, they're such good models, and like you said t he Nobz were great too! Back in the day I called the warboss "waaaaaghsalot"...

>>96315350
It's my favourite box that GW have ever released. I'm so excited to play with it again.

>>96318598
>matching base extender
Neat.

>>96313849
That is an awesome box. Congrats for your find.

On-topic, I jotted down my first ever 2E list, for Eldar. I won't really be able to swap out models anytime soon (aside having more guardians) as I want to use approximately period accurate minis, and my collection is pretty limited at the moment. This list is mainly to have a painting goal, hopefully I'll find a gaming buddy from my city for a small game. Am I fucked against marines with this?

Farseer, laspistol, force sword - 180pts
8 Guardians, shuriken catapults, leader w. power sword - 118pts
3 Striking Scorpions - 78pts
3 Warp Spiders - 123pts
= 499pts

>>96315350
>The newer ones can't even begin to compare
This is just nostalgia googles.
Dark Vengeance, Dark Imperium, Indomitus and Leviathan all have been boxes.
40k starter sets do not miss, it's the most important GW product every new edition.

>>96320077
* great box sets, damnit

>>96320077
You know meant
Boxes at a GOOD value right?
Dark Vengeance yea but all of the other ones after where kinda actual shit
and no leviathan sucked awfully it had a terrible a unit lineup and you could barely play an actual game with it
One of the worst introductions to 40k along with the other "starter" (you get 3 models and like 4 paint pots) sets from the nu-hammer era

>>96321736
Starter sets peaked here
Like this is a legit starter set you could actually play full dynamic matches of 40k with it

what are the feelings on 5th ed? I have some friends wanting to try Old 40k but one has a large necron collection and want to be able to use his Lychguard, deathmarks, ect.

>>96322273
Do the chad thing and spend a month in google docs backporting the other necron statsheets then post it
Also entirely possible people have already made homebrew backported stuff for the newer necron models and you just need to ask or look around
Best of luck

>>96318680
I wanted to give him matching movement tray with my other troops, I'll just inform my opponent to measure distances to actual base. Plus it gives him slightly more personal space so he wont get scratched, can't help those wings tho.

My brother heard I needed a Librarian so he bought me this guy. How old is he? I'm really digging how easily assembled he is.

>>96322273
>what are the feelings on 5th ed?
I'm a big fan, it's really straight forward, there's little quibbling over vague phrasing of rules (in my experience of Marines vs Chaos Marines and Orks vs Dark Eldar) a good selection of units to choose from, lore that I enjoy and not a massive amount of minis required to field armies. I do wish it had Combat Patrol though. Sure, you can run the old rules and make allowances here and there, but something official would have been nice. I play Crimson Fists and enjoy it quite a lot.

>>96326716
Looks like the expansion to the original Space Hulk, so around 1990?

>>96327003
Right you are, found one on ebay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196622245116

>>96321762
For me, it's Battle for Skull Pass and Battle for Macragge.

>>96327218
>Battle for Macragge.
Very nostalgic box, but not great value for money. Sure there's nice terrain in it, but terrain doesn't = a game

>>96327218
>Battle for Macragge
nah. other than few cool stuff like those 'nid nests and terrain, nothing special.

I have fond memories of it. I've got a soft spot for Tau because I remember them being introduced.

>>96327218
Wasn't the best value
Was probably ok if that's all you had starting out 40k
I forgot didn't GW reprint it and sell it for like 230 dollars ir something crazy like 2 years ago???

>>96328131
I can't speak to the cost in dollars, but it was like £110 -£120 iirc

>>96327218
Well, Skull Pass was pretty much the Fantasy equivalent to Black Reach.

>>96328341
Skull pass is up there with the best wargame starter boxes yea
Got literally everything you could need

>>96328341
Honestly the perfect starting box.
Some people try to spin the simplicity of the sculpts into a detriment. But that's a positive thing for a beginner. And there is definitely something to be said about the fact that it is 100+ miniatures in a box. Proper armies.

>>96328341
the pony cart is still one of the most sought after pieces for dioramas

>>96327247
>>96327318
>>96328131
Battle for Macragge was the single best starter set GW ever made to teach someone the game, it stuns and amazes me that people will write it off because they couldn't have been able to use its contents to boost an existing or spearhead a fresh army. It guided the player through everything they needed to learn about the core rules until they were ready to crack on and start an army of their own, the BfM scenario booklet is a masterclass that should have been on every competitors radar for years to come as the standard to follow. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes when I read other peoples thoughts on these things out here on the net.

>>96329166
Luckily you can buy miners for £40 and it comes with 4 pony carts.

>>96332216
Good for learning the game doesn't inherently mean it's a good starter box. BfM can cynically be viewed as the "now buy this" box.

>>96322619
Funny, that's actually what I'm doing for my friend group. But using libreoffice instead.

Arrived today! Mega happy.

>>96296566
Yeah, though it did take me about 25 years to get all of the books. Started off with just a copy of RT and Freebooterz. Citi Block was a bit of a surprise - it's RT's red-haired step-child of an expansion, but has the first rules for hive gangs in it.

I hope the poor guy doesn't choose guard... The RT Guard list is seriously restrictive - your first 1,300 points is always 4 tactical squads and a command section with a Lieutenant. All armed with Las Cannons and grenade launchers for support (in a game where any sane player tends to use mostly infantry).

>>96334433
Good stuff, I'm happy for you anon.

>>96334642
So much nostalgia in one chunk of sprue. When I was still navigating the waters of my early 40K experience, I called this guy Ancient Rylanor.

>>96334502
I feel like it's well in the spirit of RT to just ignore that.

>>96286850

If anyone else is willing to help I'd be down to work on a Rogue Trader Battle Bible.

>>96334433
this is the boxset i got for my 15th birthday. I sold the orks to my friend and bought more marines with the money. Sadly today after being away from the hobby for more than a decade i only have a few of the marines left. I still have all the books, dice, decals, etc. I wish i had kept everything together in the box.

how much did you pay for the boxset? I think it was $99 at the game store when i saw it at a kid.

>>96332216
How well it teaches the game is moot if new players don't want to buy it.

>>96336151
I've begun to suspect that the RT lists are made for Narrative campaign play - You write up a huge army, then a GM gives you objectives and you split up your army into smaller forces.

The core rules-set plays pretty well on its own, as long as you remember the errata that fixes some of the mis-printed points values (can't remember if its in a White Dwarf or the Book of the Astronomican).

>>96337797
Amen to this. My friend had it and gifted me 3 of the Marines and the rulebook ages ago, still got em

Also curious about the price cause I looked it up recently and it was like $300 CAD

>>96339462
Honestly Core Rules are probably the best, just import the unit stats and flavor rules for the armies and then you've got a bang up game.

>>96340454
>just import the unit stats and flavor rules
Across years of WDs and other publications. If only there was a nice Battle Bibble that combined all RT related things in one file for easy browsing...

>>96332216
it's great for teaching but you could do that with other editions
as a starter set though, i'd not want it.

>>96287518
>>96287874
are those the scotia grendel void minis?
or did you just have some really old plastics laying around.

>>96340685
Original production I-Kore minis from 2003

>>96337797
I paid £150, which I think is a excellent price given the contents therein and the nostalgia attached to it.

>>96340563
The problem would be that early RT is a very different game than Late 1st edition. You could almost write 2 different battle bibles.

As it is, you're probably better off starting with the main rule book. It's a flexible ruleset (though you may find space marines extremely fragile compared to how they are nowadays - Toughness 3 with a 4+ modifiable save...).

>>96341253
Fine, I'll do it myself.

>>96341315
It's actually been done in the past. Someone typed the entire RT rulebook onto a webpage back in the 00's. It was up for about a decade before GW took offence.

Also, I believe 12 of the 13 1st ed rulebooks are available as PDF docs anyway.

>>96341668
I only count 12, what's 13? Citi Block?
Rogue Trader
Book of the Astronomican
Compendium
Compilation
Battle Manual
Vehicle Manual
Waaargh: Orks
'Ere We go
Freebooterz
---WHFB/Rogue Trader---
Slaves to Darkness
The Lost and the Damned
Siege

>>96342468
nta, but I think there was also uncollected articles in WD

>>96342581
A bit tangential but sure. There are 58 issues of White Dwarf with Rogue Trader articles, from issues 91 to 161. Quite a lot of that didn't make it into a compilation. Quite a lot of that is just fluff too.

Albi Fiore, Jervis Johnson, Ian and Steve playing D&D with some TV guy. A few good miniature closeups, with a couple being obviously John Blanche's work.
https://youtu.be/pLc9f_R-CSk?si=HPbos6FDdZsHlfu5

>>96341315
I'm down to help. Do we want to start another thread for it? I'd hate to clutter this thread up too much.

The way I'm picturing it would be something like the core rules and suggestions for running them as one section and army book WD material in another section.

I think, though I'm not sure, I've got pdfs of most of the RT era WDs.

>>96343724
Added an index of WD Rogue Trader articles to:
gofile:
d/XRKkbB
Good luck, the thought of sifting through a dozen books and nearly 60 White Dwarfs to filter all the changes seems a snooze fest.

Hello /grog/ I had no idea this was a general

>>96332216
Thats how I started, I didnt actually play in 3rd edition, just bought models and painted. Started in 4th

>>96343768
Yeah, it's gonna be an undertaking for sure, but it scratches the itch for my particular brand of tism.

>>96343799
What's the lead Rhino say? W*%% R(&& Y*(^& CHILDREN? And is that a motherfucking googly eye?

>>96342468
Yeah, Citi-Block. It's a 50/50 split of 40k rules and stuff for Judge Dredd. You can largely ignore it if you want to - It's rules for fighting inside buildings (on a grid) and for using hive gangs in 40k.

>>96328131
>3E starter got reissued
>4E starter got reissued
Black Reach reprint fucking when?

>>96343789
It's not a 24/7 general, it ebbs and flows, but I would hazard a guess that it's here more often than not nowadays.

>>96343914
I think it says "I will run your children over"

>>96345522
That inevitable re-release will be my forth time buying that box.

>>96345522
TRUE AND REAL
But also I wouldn't buy it because they'd make it 400 dollars or something just as stupid and replace all of the 25mm bases with 32mm

>>96344630
Still waiting on the lore accurate squig-pipes model, that one the snotling has lacks the face :(

>>96347413
>squig-pipes
u wot m8

>>96344630
Right on, it's actually far more relevant than the vehicle manual, which is only useful for it's illustrations.
A rule set put forth by Bryan Ansell (Laserburn, Confrontation) is really only suitable for the enjoyment of the needlessly complex. May god have mercy on his soul.
Anyway, Citi Block is fully scanned. So 13/13 possible RT publications are freely available.

>>96347574
>he hasn't read 'Ere We Go.
How are your gits going to clean their teeth or stich up the cuts from their latest tumble without the relevant squigs? Squig lore runs deep.

>>96347682
Laserburn isn't really complicated, just a bit fiddly. If you keep it to the skirmishes it was designed for, a gang or so per side, it plays relatively quick in my experience.

>>96347574
>Not caught up on the squig lore and biology

Oi, Grogs, got a question for you.
Any of you lot ever played Invasion? It looks dope. Basically, it's a supplement for Battle Fleet Gothic that has you fight out boarding actions, sabotage attempts, officer assassination etc using actual minis and altered rules. Let me know if you have any experience with it.

For those of you not familiar with it the rules can be found here
http://scribd.com/doc/53182844/Battlefleet-Gothic-Invasion
Plug that link into this site for a download
https://scribd.vdownloaders.com/

>>96247081
Chorfs, Delfs, and Vampires

Who the fuck is hoarding all of the 3rd Edition Dark Eldar in the US? All that's listed on ebay is in the UK pretty much.

>>96348095
I played it a bit, the problem was it took way too goddamned long to resolve a boarding action in an actual game. Fine on its own. It's sort of based on RT's City Block rules, and eventually became Zone Mortalis. It's also quite similar to the interior combat rules from Warzone 1e.

>>96349125
That's nearly everything post covid.
You have to have a dedicated daily ebay checking routine to find non laughably priced old kit located in the US.

>>96275500
Plastic model plants, plastic model palm trees, but they look like vomit until they get painted. Check the related tabs and click around.

There are a few plants that are pieces of fake potted plants and aquarium stuff, but the bread and butter are plastic chinese model plants.

>>96349536
God damnit

£10 for an assault squad, gonna be crimson fists.

>>96354351
Mold lines need a bit of cleaning yea

>>96321762
Shame the 40K matches you'd be playing were 5th, the first symptom of the infection that would eventually kill the system.

>>96322273
Put it this way anon, there's a reason the current SRD project is for 4th edition.

I know this could be a common question but why the best way to play 4th edition is supposedly with 3.5 codex? Which 4th edition codex are a problem, also which old edition should i play as a guard and marine player if i want to play with FW shit like macharius tanks and mortis dreads.

>>96357952
Dark Angels only Mortis Dreadnought is in Imperial Armour vol 2, released a month before the 4th edition. Macharius is from IA vol 5 from the 4th edition but good luck getting anyone to agree to play with super heavies outside of Apocalypse.

Played my first game of 3rd, I was using the poxwalkers as nurglings

>>96358929
I like the idea, anon, seeing those guys massed up on a shared base makes them look real good in my opinion. How'd you find 3rd treating you?

>>96359125
Really enjoyed it! Next game im gonna try Space Marines and Tyranids

>>96358929
Certainly an interesting use of them I'm honestly not sure which is the more fun unit to use between Nurglings and Plague Zombies.

>>96356974
Never really bothered with that. I can't see them at tabletop distance so I'm good.

>>96358484
were malcadors considered super heavies back them?

Where can one get Skull Pass recasts?

>>96362022
Yea. So were Macharius.

>>96359881
>Venny Dread
Fucking kino

>>96362022
2 Structure Points

Then when stuff got mangled with Armageddon rules they were 6 Hit Points or whatever the vehicle "wounds" were then.

>>96368111
> Armageddon rules
Apocalypse?

>>96368183
Fuck aye sorry brain must have fallen out I'll go see if I can find it. Cheers.

>>96365911
you can get original plastics for reasonable price second hand if lurk harder

>>96368183
>>96368252
Oooh to play an Apocalypse game during Third Armageddon War ooo

>>96368830
Aside from pulling all the superheavy vehicle rules into a single book, something they could have easily done as a free booklet and given away with White Dwarf, the Apocalypse rules were pretty unnecessary.

People were having high points multiplayer games since probably Fantasy first edition never mind 40k and getting on fine without an official book of missions and tweaked rules.

Shouldn't just have ragged on Apocalypse, a big 3rd War of Armageddon game would be great fun.

>>96369866
yeah, i am playing HH at the moment but i found an old notebook with one of my first steel legion lists that i made back at early 5th so i am getting really tempted to build a steel legion army for 4th edition.

>the spanish version of 3.5 guard codex is on black and white
had this codex for 10 years and just noticed by comparing it to the english scan, it is the same for most non english versions?

just bagged 16 on-sprue dark eldar warriors for £15

did I do good

>>96321762
Nah starter sets peaked at Betrayal at Calth, such good value moneywise. No rules but you could just pdf that.

Am I an awful person if I want to model Deathworld Veterans with demo charges similar to the japanese lunge mine

>>96378406
I don't play heresy but I checked the boardgamegeek page for it and yea looks pretty good

>>96378886
It's okay anon you can just say it's a Rough Rider lance with a bigger charge if you need to.

>>96378406
The HH 2nd ed. starter box was also amazing for the price.

>>96378406
BaC was unironically a decent board game by itself. It even got several extra scenarios in WD

I just love it when the internet archive manages to save useful (to me) web pages.
Comprehensive White Dwarf content indices up to 2012, so 4th edition 40k and 7th WFB, plus all the specialist games and and pre Bryan Ansell game content.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080724222224/http://www.gamehobby.net/subject_indexes/subject_index.html

>>96381882
Every painting and modeling tutorial from issue 6 to 195 is pretty dope too.
Blanchitsu going back to at least issue 93 (1987) also wins me an old internet argument, as useless as that is.

>>96377775
Nice one homie. You've made someone, somewhere, very mad.

Does anyone sell an Asdrubael Vect ripoff or is it just recasters that have him?

>>96384881
I think Artel W or whatever they're called do a knock off Vect.

One more post to show off my progress on my retro40k Blood Angels army, currently painting the infantry portion, the Dreadnought and baal predator are in planning and construction. I'm kitbashing the dreadnought from various sentinel, dreadnought, vehicle accessory parts and whatever plasticard and putty abominations I can concoct while the predator is getting partially scratch built to complete a partial mk.1 rhino kit I have.