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>News & Reminders
Ancient Tomb, Strip Mine and Magus of the Moon are pre-banned in Historic
Standard and Alchemy rotating July 29
Edge of Eternities is live, prepare your dabloons and gemmies
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-july-28-2025

>Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA (embed)

>TQ
What is your favorite brawl commander?

The EOE lands actually look pretty good

>>96212748
Yeah but where are the rest :(

>>96212897
the selection seems really weird. now the manabases for different color pairs are all over the place. some pairs like orzhov have both a fastland and a shockland, while selesnya has neither.

>>96212946
Im playing grixis and i only got watery grave and lost 6 others. Big sad.

>>96212946
That's how it's always been, most likely the rest of the cycle will show up either in Lorwyn or Strixhaven.

>>96212716 (OP)
>TQ
i got bored of playing brawl and quit because it felt like everyone just plays the exact same handful of decks regardless of what you play

>every deck just vomits their hand to win by turn 4
>every deck runs brainless pile of removals

Wow what a great game.

>>96213065
>Strixhaven
Another Strixhaven? More diversity STEM students?

>>96213075
>playing constructed

>>96213080
Supposedly this time it's more about the plane of Arcavios as a whole instead of just the school, so we don't really know what it'll be about.

>>96212946
My fix is that whenever there's only half of a land cycle in Standard sets the full cycle should be legal if it exists.

>>96213101
So we're moving from Harry Potter to Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them?

>>96212716 (OP)
Im still playing Kefka reanimator in standard brawl. Lost some good artifact creatures but i think i can shift into a draw discard strategy.

>>96213075
>my durdley mid-range deck is stumbling
harumph harumph

>>96213207
cry more

Can people really not read? I’ve had so many people rope at the sight of this on turn two or three…

Late start this time, but we here. 2-1 to kick things off on RBw. I think the deck was mostly fine, but the lower end of the curve was severely lacking. 3x hullcarvers is not where you want to be, unfortunately I didn't see many good 2 drops. Other than that, things went pretty well, bombs were bomby and the synergy was there. Circuit feeder is absurd, it counts itself so even just another artifact on board means you're probably sniping something while dropping a 4/4 flier and getting in a few extra points of damage. Landseeker did better than I expected, I was hesitant about the temporary lander but it's good sac fodder and can help with void even without a sac outlet. I did end up crewing the frigate into a creature at one point, I'm not super high on spacecraft but I think anons are underrating them (for limited). I probably should've ran hylderblade, idk what my thought process was there.

I wish I was better at drafting.
>1-3 with some weird abzan amalgamation that did not work how I expected
>1-3 with a UW list
>7-2 with UIW double spell with 2 of the signpost uncommons and two of the unblockable draw 1 cards that just overran people
I really want to get better so I can start going infinite but I'm so inconsistent

>>96212946
My selesnya gearhulk/counter deck is hurting right now. Lacking manabase, lost Botanical Brawler and Haywire Mite, I'm sure I can figure something out once I save up some wildcards but I'm still sad.

Ill throw down the link one last time. I made a transcord for this fucking place. The main idea is to use it for draft rigging but if you retards just want to post in there go nuts. If it doesnt really have anyone join ill just destroy the server in a few days. Not a big deal I threw it together in like 5mins.
https://discord.gg/snxYPMuGjP

so sisters, how many gemmies have already lost drafting and how many have you bought to bring the numbers back up?

>>96213915
I spent the two tokens I got from my last mastery pass and I have 60k gold saved up for the rest of the week because I didn't have any interest in the FF7 set.

>>96213915
spent 30k coins on packs and 2k gems on sealed for now

>>96213082
>draftranning

>>96213075
historic is the least removal intense format cause you don't need removal to win through alternate wincons/combos/just mogging you in value

skill issue

>>96213915
I draft with my friend where we stream to each other. Going to do it tonight. I have a draft token and 3 more drafts worth of raw currency to burn through so im hoping to waste it all on at LEAST 6 drafts total. Dont know how yall nigs seems to all go infinite like its nothing.

>>96213965
>Dont know how yall nigs seems to all go infinite like its nothing.

they don't, they just lose it and them buy it back and pretend they went infinite but good luck sis just remember stations are trash

>>96213179
Kefka is lit if anyone likes standard brawl give it a try its a disgusting pile of cards. Last two cards are arcane signet and irencreg

>>96213951
I still won, retard.

>>96214143
you just called a top 1 mythic giving you advice retard

i am sure you'll go far, ngmi sis

>96214154
>you just called a top 1 mythic giving you advice retard
>i am sure you'll go far, ngmi sis

>>96214154
>t. a retarded alchemy player

Funny 3-0 draft with my entire pool being in RG. Never got to play Tezz, but didn't really matter. Greenhouse is nuts, I think generally speaking the best spacecraft will end up being the ones that help crew themselves. It also helped a bunch with war ragers, alongside pollinator. Tannuk is also really good, basically turns every lander token into a clue as well. Wayfarer feels quite strong, I'd happily play as many as I could pick up. Less happy with the kavu, they feel a bit all over the place. Blooming stinger doesn't feel great either.

>>you just called a top 1 mythic giving you advice retard
>>i am sure you'll go far, ngmi sis

>>96212748
That looks like AI art.

This set looks terrible for constructed but it looks like a lot of fun to draft. Is it fun to draft it mt gag? Im waiting for my rank to drop before i do any.

>>96214260
it's 'fun' if you love running just black and green and being left with the scraps if any sister drafting with you also knows black and green is the only viable option

>>>you just called a top 1 mythic giving you advice retard
>>>i am sure you'll go far, ngmi sis

Alright anyone thats not a retarded faggot wanna answer my question or just urza?

>>96214268
oh i'm sprry i didn't know this was a 'trans-only' question

>>96213915
My draft record is
1-3
1-3
7-2
2-3
I've lost so many gems

This card is insane in any matchup where your opponent also has creatures. I just played against reanimator slop. I untap, play this, sacrifice my fodder and exiled his entire board then took his Etali

Aristochads, I’m thinking we’re back

>>96214276
>says some more retarded gay shit
This is why no one likes you

>>96214335
4 mana dies to doomblade

How does this work?
Commander cards are in Arena, but they're hidden as if their set name/symbol doesn't exist and can only find them searching by name?

>>96214260
It's been fine so far, definitely more complex than FIN. Both warp and station force you to decide between tempo and value, so you need to be good at reading that. Landers are easy fixing and the cards are pretty strong, I expect multicolor piles to be a bit better than usual.

>>96214130
i like him but i only play him as a historic brawl commander

I ended up buying the lands for the first time in years, they are sick

>>96214389
yea it's retarded, and they don't release usually until alchemy

Everything is so fucking rigged holy shit.

>>96214502
nowhere near the bob ross lands aka the only needs you'll ever need

>>96214289
it's joever

>>96214533
That's your fault for willingly playing an online tcg

>>96214501
I started him with historic but im tired of dunking and getting dunked on by a single card.

>>96214533
>play bo1 with the rigged hands
>horrible losing streak

>play b03
>instantly start winning

This was a mess, but still managed to 2-1. RGu pile that I took too long to decide colors for. Lands were sometimes an issue, even with all the landers. Codecracker hound is obviously the best blue uncommon/common in the set, potentially top 3 blue card period. Basically a sidegrade of that one zombie from MID. Eusocial engineering solves the big unplayable enchantment problem by letting you basically make a 2 mana 2/2 with it early, which is very nice. Pollinator puts in work again, it's super easy to have something to tap, plus it's a 1/2 and even an artifact for synergies. Terrapact intimidator is pretty good too, I'm usually not a fan of punisher type cards, but the value here is good enough to justify it when you drop it t2. A fair bit worse on later turns when a 2 mana 4/3 isn't that crazy. Turbodrone has been performing better than I expected, the extra stat boost was helpful for pushing past blockers. Between those and fatemaker, there's a decent amount of damage you can sneak in. Literally never got to cast a bruntar, I probably should've cut one.

How likely is an Elder Scrolls set in the near future?

>>96214646
fuck off already bot, same question asked last thread

anyone who plays black is a turbo nigger

>>96214646
Close to 100% given that they’ve already partnered with Bethesda for Fallout and the popularity of the IP. One of the most likely UB sets

finally made it boys, just in time before the season ends. this is the highest I've placed yet lol

this draft environment SUCKS i want to go back to final fantasy

>>96214745
i want to go back to Torment/Odyssey

I want you to go back to not posting

>>96214707
good luck bro. at first i was only able to reach diamond as well but soon i started to climbing to mythic. don't give up.

reminder

>Rust Harvester + Scour for Scrap + Secluded Starforge in a deck with 13 artifacts
>Quantum Riddler
>Nova Hellkite
>Still only went 2-1 instead of 3-0

This format isn't messing around, huh? Half the games I won were nerve wracking, too. Was on 1 life for 4 turns until Rust Harvester won me the game

I've only done one draft but I think this format gives a bunch of opportunities to misplay (stationing, keeping trash around for void, skipping warp...). Reminds me of Brother's War but slower and I loved that set. The one thing that's unnerved me is how good Godmaw looked, I know it's a lot of mana but it closes fast. In any case if the sets is about removal, card draw and making rectangles I'm going to have a good time.

>>96215035
Yeah I've noticed my games have been tougher this set too. Lots of synergies to look out for and lots of decisions to make every turn.

>>96214942
i won't quit!

I spent an awfully long amount of time meandering with this draft before finally settling on red/blue. And I took a couple of off color cards just because they were rares I wanted.
It looks like a control deck betting on the 5 drops and counters to win the late game.
Any advice?

When will Standard get good again? Rotation didn't help.

Another 2-1, now on WG. Really wanted some better removal here, but no luck. Still, it had some explosive starts that could punish anyone getting screwed on lands, especially with a t1 pollinator. I wanted to like broodguard elite but it's just so slow even for a mana sink, at least tenderfoot can be an early 2/2 body. Dual sun adepts was crazy good though, never sad to draw it. Haliya was quite nice, and I'd imagine even better in a deck with more token generators. She notably counts noncreature artifacts, so all the landers and spacecraft work too. Hemosymbic mite really shone in this one, between the spacecraft and pollinator it was always handing out buffs. Edge rover was nice, isamaru on crack is no slouch and the death trigger is barely a downside. Never drew godmaw or battleship, and I'm thinking I probably shouldn't have ran battleship at all.

>>96215225
>next set is spiderman
not for a long, long time

>>96215225
When every tranny in California is rounded up and set on fire.

>>96215191
This deck seems like it's in a tough spot where it's good at controlling the early game but doesn't have any huge threats for the late game. The Chrome Companion is usually a shit card, but it's a good call here. Good luck, anon.

I know you're trying to hedge your bets and vary it up, but Annul is dogshit on the mainboard. Just substitute it for the third divert disaster.
Substitute one of the light jammers for the nutrient block.

>>96215225
what's wrong with standard? what are you playing if not standard?

>>96215247
>Substitute one of the light jammers for the nutrient block.
I understand most of what you say, but I don't get this one. I don't have a lot of creatures and if they remove both of my whales with Gravkill or trajectory I'm probably just dead.
Or is it that important to have the card draw, which might let me protect them with counters anyway?
Also, on a bit of tangent, what's with these cards that have no rarity sign like Inventor's Fair here? I don't think I want it in my deck, but there's a handful of these cards that don't have all the markings and I don't understand why.

>>96215256
alchemy aka true standard

>>96215256
Three year rotation sucks ass. I'm fucking sick of these cards already.

>>96215326
come to alchemy and be relax

it's where cards rotate yearly like standard is supposed and god intended

>>96215302
dragon typhoon
waystone + thunderbond
abuelo + omniscience
anything else to see in alchemy besides these bullshit decks?

>tfw you just realized standard will now be full of UB trash going forward

>>96215339
Whats the insta win alchemy deck.

I have been enjoying this draft, uncommons feel really strong

>>96215346
abuelo is out

but the rest checks out, there's also black scam, enchantments that steal your cards, huh cat whinnies, mice, birds, gay ass green shit and rabbits

>>96215366
my secret tech t3 omniscience deck

>>96215409

>>96215440
if you want some alchemy decks you can just watch mtg joe he always posts lists (never the best)

I went 0-3 in draft three times in a row I'm so fucking bad at this

>>96215449
another mtgag draft god going infinite

>>96215444
Ill be honest I kinda just want a replacement for my old mouse deck. I had like a 70% winrate on that fucking thing and matches were like 5mins long.

total ff death

>>96215463
mice has tribal cards in alchemy and they aren't bad

and btw 7 wins and i'm not playing draft for the rest of this set so this your chance to say i'm down in gemmies, trans

eoe is fire slop

>accidentally queue into historic ranked with a standard deck
>play against some insane landfall combo deck
>win easily
kek

>>96215449
Did your deck feel like ass or was it the games?

>thinks he's good at the game
>queues up draft at bronze
>immediately spews 8k gemmies

Help with this deck?

>>96215703
It'd help if you put it in wide mode so we could see everything. For starters you'd probably want to cut nutrient block and brightspear for turbodrone and moxite, though.

>>96215605
if you won easily with a standard deck then it probably wasn't that insane.

>>96215721
Probably some variation of the temur worldsoul combo deck

sisters, what's your play-in point status?

>>96215191
>>96215247
>>96215287
And here are the results:
1 - enemy bricked on lands
2 - I bricked on lands
3 - I mulligan to prevent myself from bricking on lands, get RAPED IN THE ASS by Chorale of the void and somehow win anyway. At one point, I was on 4 hp while the opponent was on 25 and I went down to 1 before the mechadog rescued me from a Seedship Broodtender graveyard search. And got me like 5 life.
4 - I use pinnacle emmisary to make some drones, generally just survive until I get Kavaron Skywarden (the enemy was white/green with flyers) and hold up the light jammer all game. Eventually cast my big surveil and draw card, then counter his 5 drop and he quits. The deck working exactly as intended here the one and only time.
5 - Mirror match, the opponent goes first, easy loss
6 - I keep the intial hand because it has okay mana, but I don't get much in terms of early game draws. Utterly gigaflood, like, I drew 14 of 17 lands in the deck and eventually lose to having nothing to play. The game rapidly went to 10 lands on each side and I drew all three of my counters that were completely useless in this situation.
3/3, I'm declaring this a failure.

oops didn't post the amount i'm drunk

it's joever, broski

>>96215830
lol

>>96215913
now post fullscreen so we know you aren't shooping, sis

>>96215913
>106
might as well use them when you get the chance. at the very least you can get some decent gems

Wow sealed is rigged

>>96216181
no one has over 80, it beats the purpose of having them in the first place

even if you are an extremely slow nigga nad only acquire them through suboptimal means such as draft or season end rank, you'll spend them at least once each half year cause all formats get played in the play-in every half year

>>96216181
I do, I just rarely have the time to do the events because of the hours.

>>96215959
you can post your wildcards and vault first lol

>>96215721
any deck can lose to luck of the draw
i was at 1 hp and cracked him back for 17 damage with phantom train and munitions tokens

>>96216203
How do you know that anon isnt whatever you are bro you are being prejudice as fuck right now for real.

>>96216185
Easiest 2-3 of my life

>>96216203
>schizobabble
I've never talked about brazil here lol. You're no PVDDR, I laugh at you alone.

>>96216287
You've mentioned it yourself multiple times lol

>deleted the posts
I don't make fun of you for race, I make fun of you for being a coward

Off-topic
Trolling
Racism

Anything else?

the sphinx's tutelage into water crystal combo is pretty funny in pioneer, it's surprisingly consistent with some digging and control spells and usually goes off turn 4 or 5. Haven't tried Bo3 cause i'm not gay but it's just as well because most people aren't maindecking artifact/enchantment removal. I love making them sit through every trigger of 6 cards instead of milling the whole thing all at once

these two little shitheads together would get banned back in the 10s, now they are basically unplayable

>>96216874
Imagine playing a card that costs 3 mana that doesn't give you mana and ping your opponent while growing everytime you cast anything

>>96216874
They're draft cards.

>>96216888
i know right, imagine

>>96216900
aka shit

>>96216874
Emissary is potentially playable, the other guy is just shit though.

>>96216990
>get like 2 1/1 flyers that can't block at best
WOAH DUDE, WATCH OUT

>>96214388
>doomblade targets enchantments
Huh?

>>96217018
unironically yes if there were around amonketh/kaladesh before the game went the same way as jannies

Do you think theres monkey soup in space

Do you know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in space

>>96217018
There's multiple formats where cheap artifacts are plentiful. 1 mana to make a bunch of 1/1 fliers which also have artifact synergy is a potentially decent card. Especially since it's hybrid mana. Affinity could definitely test it out, at least.

>>96217115
he can work in vintage/legacy but nothing weaker than that

>>96205966
how'd it go?

thanks for the waste of time lil' bro

i want to train for the open not to watch some fool self mill

>>96217320
>he needs to train for the open
I thought you were good bro not like this

i thought the jannies sent you to the tard jail already

just because you report every post making fun of you because you're a salty little baby doesn't mean anyone is getting put in tard jail.

15 wins is too much. It should just be 15 completed.

>>96217919
Most people just do 4 wins. Beyond 4 the rewards are insignificant.

>>96217968
Also the more you play eventually they will find your mmr so you have to play even more to get those wins

>now got 1,5k gems in addition to the 10k gold for issuing a ticket
now Im not mad anymore about the server issues

Late night 2-1 to close out the day. Sadly this time the loss was to an even greedier pile on sultai. I definitely should've gone down to 16 lands here, slipped my mind. My boy pollinator shines yet again, great for ramp and fixing and triggering the getting tapped abilities safely. Disappointed by skywarden, I wanted to like him but it's harder to trigger void while playing defensively so the reach is awkward. Plus a fair number of spacecraft actually match or outsize the base stats, so you might need to tank a few hits and by then you're half dead anyway. I do think EOE is shaping up to be a slower format, the aggro decks have not been impressing as much as the slower ones. Warp and station are valuable enough that it's often worth slowing the game down and playing for value. There do seem to be a lot of synergy pieces though, and I mostly stuck with RG/UG midrangey stuff today. G looks to be the strongest color, with U or B second. I might actually trudge through bo1 draft this set just for the double mythic achievement, it's close to the end of the season and standard might be a bit less shit now after rotation.

EOE day 1 results:
One 3-0, four 2-1s, for a total of 11-4.
Spent 7,500 gems and won back 6,500 for a net -1,000 gems
Won 18 packs, that's 3,600 gems
Got 28 rares so far (I'm counting shocks as 1 since I already have all of them), at 100 gems per rare that's 2,800 gems
Gained value of +5,400 gems today

>>96218274
i got 6k gemmies when they fucked up qualifier 2 months ago

bro nice decked me
sorry i drew 28 cards before i found lethal

I haven't played mtg for a long time but recently tried getting back in and saw final fantasy, spiderman and now spaceships and aliens. WTF happened to the lore?

>>96218763
>he thinks spaceships is weirder than phyrexians and slivers

>>96217289
kinda meh, gotta tweak the deck a bit and get to know it more i guess

>>96218517
it's always people with these stone pets that are the biggest shits to play against

Blast 18000 gems in 90 packs, or save it for drafts?

>>96219285
Well do you want to draft?
You buy packs, you immediately go to whatever branch of constructed you're doing. If you draft, you will first spend a few weeks playing draft before you get to constructed. You get all the cards you need either way, it's just a question of how you intend to get there.
Also I sure do hope you didn't pay actual money for those gems, don't give Californians real currency.

How's timeless with the new degeneracy? Strip mine loops? Ancient tomb enabling t1 s&t?

>>96214225
Modern MTG art has had that weird fake look long before AI became popular.

>>96214335
Turns out even worse grave pact is still busted

>5c slop in brawl
I won't. Even if you try to hide your jodah behind a final fantasy skin.

Cuts/Changes? Thinking about dumping some number of sami's curiosity out, maybe even all of them, but also wondering if the blue is worth splashing.

>>96219590
Do you really need 3 lashwhip predators?
I'd either drop of one those and 2 of Sami's or I'd drop all the white cards and go full green for mana consistency.

>>96219649
playing monogreen with that much fixing seems like trolling.

there is nothing I hate more than ropers on ladder. I wish there was a different queue with shorter time limits just so I didn't have to play against them

>>96219493
Id rather play against 5c instead of mono colored shits boring

>>96219285
Draft to gold or plat right now before the rank resets and do it again after the rank resets and then never again. Only buy packs in sets of 10 for the gold packs or blow you gems on sealed its alright this time.

Rate my sealed pool. Is annul good in this format i have three of them…

>>96220132
>Is annul good in this format
no

I wish there was a "current set only" constructed format so I can actually have fun with the new cards and try shit out without instantly getting bodied by the same three netdecks over and over in standard

>>96220338
Id play foundations plus the newest set only i think it would be swell

>>96220257
>>96220132
Annul is good, look at how many cards in the set are artifacts and enchantments. I would probably only play 2 though. I've done quite well in draft and take Annul highly

>>96220132
I like annul. It counter white's primary removal (and one of it's combat tricks), it counters a ton of artifact creatures, it counters spacecrafts, it counters blue's primary removal. I feels like there's a lot of potential targets, for a measly 1 mana.

>>96220413
Being 1 mana is really what makes it so backbreaking. If you play out a creature and then counter their big spell on their next turn the game is often just over in this format

Shit i guess ill try to add annul but i think im gonna fucking lose bros noooo

>>96219997
>Only buy packs in sets of 10 for the gold packs
you can buy them one by one anon, they just gotta be for standard sets

well, that was easy

Im never fucking playing sealed again my opponents have mono color aggro decks and i have a garbage pile

I laugh at how desperate sweatys are in this game, using board wipes on single creatures just to stay on curve

>>96219341
probably still just Energy vs Show and Tell (with the former using Strip Mine and the latter Ancient Tomb)

>>96220453
if those are the best cards you have in those colors, find new colors.

>>96220511
Dont sass me

went from a quick 2/0 to a 2/3 in sealed, what a disgusting set

>>96220522
I don't play this format, why does it matter? Does it delay his boss a lot or what?

>>96221021

>>96221013
EOE limited feels like a set where the play matters more than the deck, I catch myself regretting so many decisions every game.

>>96219285
Unless you're aiming for a particular deck I would say draft, but I don't know if others like drafting as much as me.

>>96221024
it's unreal what combos all 3 of my matchups pulled off, i had one guy have a 18/18 creature on turn 5 with first strike
or turn 4 flyer station with 4/7 that bounces 2 of my creatures off, next turn another one cames so im finito after that

Yeah after a couple of jump ins and two sealed runs i think im already done with limited lol

>>96221146
draft isn't nearly as bad as sealed

>>96221146
i think im going to waste my stuff on packs instead of limited this set

>>96221146
Oh ok i was just waiting for my rank to reset before i did any drafts but the other limited stuff tilted me so hard i had to take drugs.

>>96221188
>>96221208
Shit i meant to reply here not to myself. Oops. Ill give it a got when i get off work and see but i think im a little to retarded for this set or maybe its just sealed.

brawl, jump-in and starter duel players should be cherished and encouraged

at least they don't play draft

>>96221240
well I'll tell you I went 0-3 and 1-3 in my 2 sealed then 6-3 in my first draft.

>>96221278
sealed is the hardest of the baby formats cause it's actually random and draft babs cannot run their lists/broken color of the set

>>96221024
This deck was basically 2 for 1s, removal and a draw 7, kind of basic. I assumed I had every lategame but a million options to reach there. A card like Faller's Faithful can be powerful while dangerous but avoiding danger at all costs means missing out. I also used Specimen Freighter to bounce my opponent creatures with decent ETBs because I wanted to tie his mana and keep deploying my board until I could get to Weftwalking. Then there's the trinkety shit and void and landers...

Hmm, I'm feeling quirky today so on turn one I'll play 3 Sazh's Chocobo and then pass

>>96221358
JUDGE!!

>>96221376
What he had two gemstone caverns theres nothing i can do

A nice 3-0 on WG, the green streak continues after I had to pivot off red despite an early harvester and technician. Impressed with focus fire, not hard to get a few creatures on the board and get a 1 mana osseous exhale. Combined with a fair number of +1/+1 counters, this list could push through damage pretty regularly. Seedship impact is way better than shattered wings imo, most of the dangerous fliers are artifacts anyway. Command bridge has some cute synergy with the tapped down abilities, though I don't think it's strong enough to justify running, probably should've cut it. Exosuit savior is ass, I guess you could rebuy some warped creature with it, but that's not great. At least it's a flying body for haliya. Can't decide if tenderfoot is actually good or bad, the mana sink is nice but playing it t2 feels rough.

Orzhov mana is so good that I think you can play BW sacrifice with only lands that produce black for this.

4 starting towns
4 godless shrine
4 verge
4 fast land

>>96221531
I feel like this set is deceptively fast. With all the landers going around you'd think this would be a set that supports multicolored late game, but in practice the creature that drops it is some kind of underpowered and then it demands 2 more mana on top of that. If the opponent just puts down strong creatures instead you get run over before you can deploy your game plan.
I feel like landers are more useful as artifact fodder than accelerators.

>>96221568
they trigger void too

>>96221568
>I feel like landers are more useful as artifact fodder than accelerators.
They are. If you aren't saccing landers to a triggered ability or getting landfall triggers when you pop them you shouldn't be rating them too highly.

Im not a huge fan of EOE draft. I liked final fantasy more. What are the odds the spiderman set is gonna be decent you guys think?

Strayed from green and immediately got punished for it, 1-2 on UWr. I think the deck itself was actually fine, I just misplayed a few times. Psionicist is nutty, so easy to keep triggering as long as you have cheap cantrips. Or even just playing it and another 3 drop on t4 is pretty solid. Never actually got to draw my station monitors, but the double spell stuff worked decently enough with operatives and lightsmith. Shepherd is great as expected, whether it's making sure you hit your land drops or grabbing a 1 utility drop. Even better in the archetype since it lets you easily double spell t3 if you want. My late game was pretty decent, with all the card draw, maybe could've ran scour for scrap since I did have a decent number of artifacts.

no one cares, enjoy the 0 replies as you spam over and over

there's like 7-8 of these stupid posts already

>>96220132
>12 rares/mythics
how the fuck do you get this much stuff from 6 packs? also, everything on color!? this seems extremely nutty

>>96222029
want some more proof baby formats are rigged?

>>96221568
I agree if you're using landers just for ramp/fixing they're not amazing, but most of the stuff they're attached to is perfectly fine. Green has a 3/3 for 3, red gets 4/3 for 4, black is 2/1 for 2. A bit on the weaker side, but they can all trade with creatures on par. But like you said, they're pretty flexible so they can go in multiple archetypes.

kitchen table magic > arena

you know it's true

>>96221961
>What are the odds
probably very low. if what people were saying in the main thread are true, the set only has 5 mono-color draft archetypes, because they didn't really design the set for limited.

>>96222078
Thats why they are adding the weird pick 2 draft right? Your gonna have to really lock down a color? Isnt the set also going to be like one of the smallest standard legal sets ever? And like a third of the set is reprints? Im glad we are getting unique art and shit so I dont have to look at spider pig. Oh its gonna be so ass. And make so much money.

>>96222016
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/tripcode/!%2FBSnmvS2jY/

>>96222078
I think it's the ally pair archetypes, but yeah.

>>96222029
Limited packs have more rares/mythics, you get all sorts of extra shit.

ez

>>96221993
Splashing red just for technician seems crazy there

Why is quick draft still on fucking tarkir? Such a shitty draft set

>>96222066
Sounds like copium for being hardstuck in plat

>>96222029
Its not nutty its a pile of random good cards but none of the support pieces im gonna 0-3 it when i get home 0-1 now.

>>96222211
you can't make fun of sisters unless you have been top mythic 1 in constructed

let xyr have xyr's fun and most of all don't be racist

>96222281

>>96222196
It's a 5 mana for a 3/3 and "drawing" 2 that you can break up the cost for, I rate that pretty high. Especially in that list, where it's a bunch of cheap stuff that you want to chain together. Worst case scenario, your opponent plays removal on it before you get to cast anything, that's still a 1 for 1 that likely went even or positive in mana.

>>96222211
getting to mythic does absolutely nothing for you in the real world. the difference is I don't care while you dilate going 0-5

>>96222281
>don't be racist
:DDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>96222066
I pity the anons who didn't get to grow up playing slapdash decks against their friends with misinterpreted rules. That's the real Magic experience. If you've never nearly come to blows over whether Icy Manipulator can tap down a land before its controller can produce mana with it you've never truly lived.

>>96222480
i pity those who didn't ever discard their hand to hit for lethal with 「Literally Me」

>>96222480
worst misinterpreted rule back in the day was a friend thinking divergent growth tutored all his basic lands from his deck

so, what's the counterplay?

>>96222671
Not playing a shit format, probably

Went 4/3 with this one. Started in blue, then I thought I'm going to be blue/green, took a bunch of white and then suddenly green opened up and I ended up there.
I got 2 genemorph imago which I thought would be good, but they always showed up at the very end when I had maybe one land to put down.
I didn't draft enough removal to fight it out properly, I think. Only tractor beam and lost in space.
The deck wasn't a complete brick, but it wasn't very impressive either. Pretty bad that 4 wins is my best result in this draft so far out of 4. It feels like everyone is forcing green, the disparity between it and other colors is just too much.

see >>96222016

>>96222792
You realize that's 2 different posters, right?

>>96222796
no proofs, chat gpt is only 1 app

>>96222671

>>96222840
Rape

Aristogods, we are so back
Deck
2 Plains
4 Swamp
3 Syr Vondam, Sunstar Exemplar
4 Godless Shrine
4 Concealed Courtyard
1 Corrupted Conviction
2 Forsaken Miner
3 Lively Dirge
4 Nezumi Linkbreaker
1 Fountainport
3 Enduring Innocence
4 Infestation Sage
2 Vengeful Bloodwitch
4 Bleachbone Verge
4 Voice of Victory
3 Worthy Cost
1 Great Arashin City
4 Sephiroth, Fabled SOLDIER
2 Starting Town
1 Sothera, the Supervoid
4 Umbral Collar Zealot

Sideboard
4 Duress
3 Ghost Vacuum
2 Sotherea The Supervoid
2 Tragic Trajectory
2 Cathar Commando
2 Seam Rip

Are simulacrum synthesizer decks good for Bo3 or is artifacts hate too strong for them to shine outside Bo1?

On the topic of landers, I think it's kind of colour dependant and of course at what stage of the game you're in but cracking them has felt fine.
Blue has a bunch of big drops that slow your opponent's offense for a couple of turns and that may be all you need to deploy with relative safety (Speciment Freighter, Mouth of the Storm. Mechanozoa), having some cheap landers in my deck has made me believe it's fine to play a bunch of 5s and 6s which is something I'm usually pretty allergic to you don't need to rush to crack them but having the option of knowing you can play your catch up 6 if you go a turn at half gas gives you some flexibility.
Green has pollinator and tapping landers can let you double spell before you need to crack them which is always fun but more importantly it gets fucked up wayfarer at common. Sami's Curiosity also read good since you can get your rampant growth on turn 2 which is the best turn to get it but it hasn't looked that impressive from my opponent's side.
Black and red seem to want a smaller game and having a trinket that can tactically trigger void on demand can be key. I expect these are the colours where people will cut their outs the most because deck thinning.
I'm not sure what white does but it didn't look like it was in the market for them, I just see people playing 1-2-3 power creatures and losing.
Splashes in general don't look very good, there's only one gold uncommon per pair and a lot of the rares want you to insist on a plan, you can splash for Warmaker Gunship in your GW deck but probably you shouldn't more often than not. Maybe Temur is a thing, without duals I've tried to stick to 2 colours but I'm sure there will be spots. BTW, command bridge can tap a lander, I usually think these want you to tap a land, probably correct to not play that card too often but splashers will have to make do.

I craterhoofed his ass in draft lmao. I can already tell this is the most kino thing I will do in the format

>have the Glacier Godmaw in play, landfall creatures you control get +1/+1 vigilance and haste
>play the mythic whatever it's name is and sacrifice all my lands, getting 8 more from my deck

>final fantasy clapped-cuz-i-saw-it freshies getting their souls sucked out their assholes realizing what mtg really is
It's been fun.

So what does mono-black run now? Is mono-black or rakdos aggro going to be a thing? pic related looks like a fun card

>>96223466
Same cards as before. Annex, Preacher, Revenant, Duress, removal

>>96223593
>Same cards as before
Except all the ones that rotated out....

>>96223355
Most green decks should be looking to splash, I think. Maybe not WG, they're on the beatdown plan. Temur is especially good, like you said. A lot of land synergy there, which is perfect since you want landers for fixing anyway.

>>96223363
wtf I love EOE now?

>>96222758
If everyone is forcing green then they all have fewer good cards. Also why didn't you run labship or eusocial engineering? They're fantastic cards.

>>96223685
>>If everyone is forcing green then they all have fewer good cards.
Exactly. Everyone's fighting over the green cards and then they add whichever other color sucks the least.
>Also why didn't you run labship or eusocial engineering?
I wanted to deliberately make it as aggressive as I can and while Eusocial Engineering can get you a 2/2 on turn 3, that one mana will remain unused and you're paying 3 for a 2/2. Similar idea with the ship, it's a dead card until you hit 6 mana and then you have to invest more attack power into manning it.
Maybe the deck would be stronger if I made it more late game, but this run I really wanted to emphasize aggro.

>>96223725
Playing Brawl is cancer.
Its either a faggot meta deck that just autoplays itself or another deck that just steals your cards to play with.

You can't come to Brawl with the mindset of "I'm gonna play a gimmick deck" because it never happens.

>>96223157
Artifact beats everything that isn't pure aggro or almost every flavor of combo. Anything that doesn't stop you from setting up or have full board wipes will struggle to beat you unless they can beat you faster than you can setup or have some alt combo wincon but you can probably sideboard in something to stop it

What is controls wincon now anyways? Jace is gone so I have no clue what they could even attempt to use

>>96223955
Beza, Shiko and Elspeth.

>>96223978
weak

>>96223978
>>96224000
Landfall deck with a green base with Felidar retreat and Elspeth as the wincon and Ultima as the anti simularcum printer tech.
Chocobo, ogrelord of green land printing and then whatever.

jankGODs... is it a better enduring curiosity?

Are stations actually viable outside of timmy combos?

>>96224031
Depends heavily on if you're dealing damage with multiple small dudes or one or two big dudes. Even then Enduring Curiosity having flash and being hard to remove are also huge boons. One of the few things this has over enduring is that you can crew for 7 instead of just 4 which is pretty marginal.

>>96224040
in limited a lot of them are fine. they have some decent enters effects and synergize well with a lot of the "when this thing gets tapped" effects
in constructed? idk maybe. these ones are okay

so many of the spaceships are just outclassed in standard. like this for example
in exchange for 2 power, losing a VERY GOOD omen effect and only being able to target creatures you can... mill 4 cards eventually

>>96224082
>uncommon vs rare

>>96224123
the rares are all commander bait

>>96224072
Obviously they're good in limited

>>96224130
Sure, but if Marang was uncommon it would be something like
>coil and catch 2UU
>sorcery
>Draw three cards, discard 2
And the creature side would only return 2 non-dragon creatures and probably have lower stats.

>>96223725
>this run I really wanted to emphasize aggro.
Why though? There are times you'll want to stray from the given archetype, but it's not like you had super good aggro cards other than imago and baloth.

can someone suggest me some youtube channels that aren't shit?

>remove my commander the turn it's played or you lose

Is this a healthy meta?

In order for spacecraft to be good it has to have the same requirements as vehicles. Either super cheap for a body that's better than a normal creature of that rate or have a pretty solid ETB effect.

I like station more than crew but this is a one set mechanic that will never get support outside of random cummander sets until maybe a decade from now when they run out of UB sets and return to this.

At least it's fun in limited with the warp cards

>>96224209
What kind are you looking for?

>>96224209
what content are you looking for. For standard? You can try channel fireball and any of their guys streams when they play standard. CovertGoBlue is usually good but he only plays BO1 and he's been crashing out lately idk what's happening to him.
For draft, nummy is my go to. Consistent uploads and he always enters any cubes or other big events.

>>96224249
+1 for nummy
skilled, entertaining, and uploads daily with minimal youtuber grifting

>>96224218
>>96224249
Draft or standard with minimal amounts of the typical youtube clickbait bullshit and grifting if possible

Another 2-1 on WB. Almost had the trophy, but sadly got screwed on lands. This one was pretty fun, lots of sac and paying life and shit. Comet crawler isn't p1p1 material, but it's solid filler. Don't think it'd be worth running unless you can feed it maybe half the time. Sothera worked nicely with it and culler though, basically a 1 mana edict every turn until their board is clear. Saboteur is nasty when your opponent misses their 2 drop, or even just as a 4 power blocker for 2 mana that's hard to remove. I don't think monolith is actually good, but it's fun and I didn't feel too bad about losing life thanks to all the crawlers.

>commander decks are going to start having cut content via secret lairs releasing with them now
Genuine question with no shit flinging, how much are you willing to endure from this company before enough is enough? Commander decks went from 30 to 50/80 with no increase in quality and now they're going charge an extra 40/60 if you want the all the cards for it seriously at what point does the Wotc ass fucking become unbearable?

>>96224442
this is the arena thread, bro
we don't pay anything

>>96224209
>>96224416
I like Ashlizzle for standard. the other suggestions are good too

>>96224422
not playing the embrace seems a lil crazy

another one sisters

>>96224517
what happened to xir's gemmies? lost them all drafting?

as if

Yeah fuck Arena seriously. Don't play for 3 months, standard rotates, and my first match is me playing Oculus (which is basically unchanged with easy replacement cards) and can you guess what the first deck I play against is? Some fucking deck that's entire gameplan is exiling graveyards, with an indestructible menace lifelinker who attacks when 11 cards are exilied with a passive that draws a card every time a card that's exiled then plays an enchantment that exiles every card that goes to the graveyard.

I don't believe for a fucking second this is a coincidence. Fuck Arena man. Fuck JOTC

>>96224513
Felt like I had enough removal, though maybe I could've ran it over the big ship.

>>96224537
that's what you get for playing nu-extended come to alchemy (the real standard) and be relax

>>96224517
what's a good alchemy deck for ez wins?

>>96224551
rabbits requires ZERO brain mass
birds are tier 1
omni is what i run it's the hardest but also the strongest

>>96224558
thanks i'll try to find a good alchemy omni list and become a alchad

>>96224574
there's no list rn, abu just rotated and they don't know how to cheat out omni without kona (i do)

>>96224582
tell

I will simply bin the omni then put into play with yuna then win at instant speed on my end step

For me it's Manifest Dread Omniscience shenanigans

anyways what sisters are trying to do rn is make sephy work in the mobilize deck to kill with triggers instead of going face

When does quick draft rotate? I can't be fucked trying tarkir again

>>96224666
should be next tuesday, after the new set is 1 week old.

also, for some reason they forgot to turn off eldraine draft with all the server fuckery that went down when they released EOE.
>>96224675

>>96224683
if you think this is bad i'll let you know they fucked up three times three qualifiers in a row

>GET FUCKED UKEK
this game was so satisfying

>>96224734
yes you can see my name idc chill nerds

time to burn a bunch of wildcards in a fire for... standard I guess?

i want to know the omni techhhh

>>96224745
there you go sis

/mtgag/ posters not getting baited by urza challenge: impossible

imagine this is your side of the board and you know you still lost

>>96224558
>omni
>hard to play
kek

another one

won against birds with gRAPEshot

>>96224817
First I put my omni into play then I- hmm... Then I think I will... cast my whole library? I put omni into play then cast my whole library! Do I win?

>>96224819
post list urza-sama

>>96224948
bro never here only on discord

we never talk about stuff like that in public

Redemption 3-0, back on WG. Nothing crazy here, just play dudes, buff them up, and swing in. Almost threw a game because I forgot biosynthic burst gave hexproof along with the rest of the soup. Exosuit savior had a cute synergy with broodguard elite, bouncing it back to hand to get four uses out of it since the counters transfer on LTB. Plus a flying body to put the counters on, too. Didn't have stations for mite, but it's a cheap body that takes counters pretty well, so that worked well. Same with broodguard and dockworker. Between the warps, X costs, and mana sinks, this one had solid late game gas too. I probably should've cut inquisitor for breacher or something, the effect isn't that significant and a 1 mana 2/1 is fine but nothing amazing, especially in a set with multiple other ones. I still really like focus fire, even if the numbers don't back that up. Yet to get a deck that can reliably bring back anything with reclaimer, but a 5 cost 5/4 flier is still great even against spaceships, I'm guessing most of the time you're not going to be warping it.

>>96225028
gn

>>96224951
keep your secrets then

huh we got a problem here

now that i got all rares i'm gonna be getting only 20 gemmies per pack unless it's a mythic. it's over sisters i think i'm gonna have to go back to farming historic

>>96225055
i'm not going to sleep silly

>>96225066
you should be glad it's such policies that kept sorin and tell at bay for like half a year before it got mainstream

>>96225101
nah i get it, it just sounds fun. i did a quick look for synergies with omni earlier in the client and didn't find anything but i'll go back a bit later and see what i can find

>>96225112
good luck and be sure to stay quiet if you find anything workable

>First draft
>First game I go second, curve out but the guy plays a spell that wipes my board and mills like 15 creatures out of my deck
>Second game I go second and I cant get past my third land
>Third game I drew 13 lands vs 5 of my opponent
I am done. I came back to farm some collector boxes from final fantasy but I hate how rigged arena feels. Limited is not even fun anymore, apparently 2 mana creatures can be 3/3s so god forbid you go second a miss a drop because you are at 12 turn 4.

A nasty RG deck that went 2-1, stopped only by someone playing double emissary into a bunch of artifacts, twice. Only real issue was that it was heavy on 4 drops, but zookeeper and pollinator helped with that. Never got to draw vestige, but it would've helped too. Big tannuk didn't really do much in this deck honestly, other than a cheeky warped kill ship one time. Still, the threat of fat hasty dudes was worth the slot I think. Thawbringer has actually been doing alright, didn't expect much from wary thespian/watchdog's big brother. Crasher did better than alright, especially in these types of lists where there's a mini combat trick in every lander. Never got to combo pain for all with resolve, but it would've been fun.

>>96225139
I found something and I doubt it's anything but I saw a recent standard video that had a cheeky way to cheat it out

Green still looks like the top dog, though I saw some pretty strong decks without it today. These games have been pretty close, EOE feels quite skill testing with a lot of decision points. I definitely had some games where I regretted crewing a ship or warping for value instead of just playing it regularly, and some games where my opponents probably did too. I wouldn't call it fast or slow, there's options to go either way. I just personally leaned towards the slower green decks. One thing to note though is that the synergies are pretty strong, I think you'll want to stick to archetype most of the time. I don't think people will be able to heavily rely on tier lists for this one. G has mostly been landers and counters, U has mostly been double spells and artifacts, W mostly counters and going wide. There's been some deviation but I haven't seen it work out much.

EOE day 2 totals:
Two 3-0, two 2-1, one 1-2, for a record of 11-4
Spent 7,500 gems and won back 7,250 for a net loss of -250 gems
Won a total of 19 packs, worth 3,800 gems
Trophied twice for 4 play in points, worth 800 gems
Have 50 drafted rares now, up 22 from last time, or roughly 2,200 gems
All together, gained 6,550 gems of value today.

>>96225366
shh

>>96225139
>>96225366
nevermind, i have no idea how card in alchemy interact with each other. basically just playing a standard pile at this point

>>96225395
just play sephy mobilize, even absolute noobs can win it and i'm not implying you are the case

>>96225410
nah i'm gonna bash my head against this and figure something out

>>96225415
based turbografx mascot

>>96225418
ok my head hurts i'm done lol

>>96225492
i myself find brewing quite soothing

sometimes i spend longer building shit then actually playing

>>96225501
i think it'd be better if i had more than 12 rare and 5 mythic wildcards. i'd actually like brewing and trying things out more if arena gave more resources or let you try out cards more

>play alchemy
>get easy wins
>have no fun
I can't tell if the format is bad or if most of its players are.

>>96225565
>I can't tell if the format is bad or if most of its players are.
both

>>96225376
green is good because it works with literally every other color. It provides fixing, it provides artifacts, it provides big bodies, and then typical pump/protection spells and some good fight/bites on top

>play alchemy
>get easy wins
>have all fun

>>96225511
that's the point of alchemy, you can farm the hell outta stuff. you gotta invest to have some return just don't build timmy garbage like something purely black or green in general except if it's rabbits

>>96225586
>I play games to grind
kek

>>96225586
looking through alchemey lists now, is dragon typhoon worth building? it would take all of my wildcards plus some but it looks sort of neat

>>96225625
dragon typhoon is the best alchemy card right now

it works even without omni, i have laid down honest beatdowns without cheating omni out when the shuffler shufflers it out

>>96225628
fuck it, i'll start doing alchemy events if they're so easy and grind more resources while standard meta irons out

>>96225625
>is building a deck in the fastest-rotating format worth it for a poorfag
Probably not, I'd build a pioneer or historic deck

>>96225628
>>96225635
immediately lost to mono white lifegain i'm done

>>96225635
or you'll eventually find out you can also use your alchemy cards in historic and a whole new pool of cards/decks and meta will open up before your eyes

and you won't have to be catch up with a moving target since historic only rotates when a horizons set comes out

>>96225652
lmao wtf

>>96225651
the 'fastest rotating format' is just standard with meme cards aka what you supposedly always did before wotc created the nu extended abomination and called it "standard"?

>>96224416
I'm a boomer, for draft I like darkestmage there's also people like Paul Cheon (who does some of the clickbait bullshit but at points you can skip). I can't deal with young people, I've tried.

For Standard I only check d00mwake, I don't really care about his decks but weekly he does videos on what decks have been played on the format and it isn't anything you can't find yourself but it saves me time.

>>96225656
ok i'm keeping you updated and i don't care if it's annoying. so far i've played like 6 games and 2 of those were white lifegain and it just stomps me but i've won against everything else. i want to see what i can do to make this viable in historic too but that might take some time or just be not viable

Can this deck win in sealed or am I going to get cucked again

>>96225753
historic is sorin and tell, eldrazi ramp and prison fliers

anything else is masochism

>>96225763
looks fine for a sealed deck, could use more removal though

>>96225774
and boros energy and auras and tainted pact and mono green and scurry oak combo

>>96225795
nah that shit don't cut it for the top 1% not even auras anymore

>tainted pact
lol, that shit's been gone for like 2 years

I need the secret sauce timeless turbo strip mine deck

>>96225885
huh this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi1oq9Kv6OE

still gets mogged by oops all spells
t1 chrome mox dark ritual sorin balustrade gg

timeless is a joke

>>96225894
>turbo strip mine
>1 card main deck that can recur lands
no.

>>96225940
idk i don't play anything in timeless other than oops

>>96224203
Because I wanted to try and see how it turns out.

>trying to do my three daily wins with a combo deck
>keep going second against blue decks
I really hate this game sometimes

>>96225881
Nothing is gone when you can build your own decks.

>>96225763
>game 1
>go 2nd
>opponent plays seed-ship on 3 and is able to station and attack with it on turn 4 putting a lashwhip into play
its already joever.

What do I do with all of this? I'm dogshit at drafting btw.

>>96226562
At least spend your draft tokens.
Then turn the gold into packs, probably. Or if you want to be autistic, wait until you accumulate 90k gold so you can buy the big pack with the irrelevant bonus.

>>96226901
Gotcha. Any good resources for getting gud at drafting? I know about 17lands and limitedgrades, but I assume autistically following rankings isn't the best course of action.

>>96226916
a mix of playing constructed enough to know the basic principles of the game, knowing what limited decks for each archetype are vaguely supposed to look like in the format, and autistically following rankings will get you pretty far. Basically knowing which cards are good and which decks they are specifically good in gives you the best chance while drafting. You see a pick 6 blue uncommon that is insanely good in specifically blue/white you start to get some ideas.

>>96226938
Cool, thanks a lot. I'll go research the archetypes first then before I jump in.

>>96226916
my primary drafting knowledge resource is shitposting in this thread and seeing what come up in response.

bros why are midrange decks so expensive? it's all i like to play but i cant even craft one right now because they require so many rare wildcards

>>96227052
That does sound smart too. I think this place is probably pretty good for advice when it comes to making cuts.

>>96225376
>>96225576
Is it just me or is red worthless as anything other than a support color in this format? It can be a secondary color that is supporting the main color's themes or part of a green soup deck, but any deck that has red as the main color is dogshit.

>>96227170
Because they require so many rare wildcards.

Any good rakdos burn listo for standar these days?

>>96227963
There is Kuja and his black mages deck, but it's not actually good.

>>96227490
Yeah it's in a bit of a poor spot because most of the mechanics for it are done better by other colors. Green has better landfall support, blue has better artifact support, black has better void support, white doesn't really have better "2 tapped creatures" support, but that archetype just sucks anyway. The removal is good though, there's some decent cards here and there, so it's fine as a support color like you said.

>>96228355
sad, i fucking hate vivy meta
and the alternative is way ass boring token control

>>96225576
True, but that's what green does every set and sometimes the numbers just don't work out in its favor. Like if you compare hazard of the dunes to icecave crasher, hazard wins easily. But then we've got innocent looking creatures like wayfarer that just feel really good to have.

>fuck up my order of spells and cant win
>opponent concedes anyways
hehe

>>96226562
alchemy

>xyr won't stop highlighting permanents

enjoy the rope

>>96229118
Just grinding the event or? Where do I find good alchemy lists? Do I just grind mono-white lifegain?

>>96229324
Just grinding the event or? yes
Where do I find good alchemy lists? that's the neat part, you don't. which makes it the best format by default since you have to come up with stuff
Do I just grind mono-white lifegain? timmy noob strat unless you're running life-mill with the ff card

>>96229336
>the best format by default since you have to come up with stuff
Why do you say this when you just netdeck the top deck constantly?

alchemy actually sucks, going back to standard

alchemy is standard, you are going back to nu extended

>>96229609
Nu-extend this dick

>swords opponents turn 1 lanowar
>he Nice deck!'s me and concedes
Green players aren't bullied nearly enough

>>96230135
>nooo you have to stay and play against my faggy deck
lol

>>96230135
correct, green is the color of low iq

>draft bombs
>never see them in 9 games
>run lower than average land count
>flood out in 2/3 of games
I've gotten this unlucky in paper once in the past 19 years. On Arena it's every other event.

Not a fan of UG, but we got the 2-1 still. Lack of good removal made things pretty dicey at times, despite having some strong cards. Selfcraft mechan was a bit awkward without relic, since you obviously don't want to sac creatures, and the deck wanted to use landers for the lands. Still, they worked well enough and upped the artifact count for escort. Navigator is no merfolk looter, but it does a decent impression when combined with pollinator or the stations. Lost in space is very nice against opponents using landers, if you can time it so they shuffle away their creature. I think I got baited into G this run, I probably should've went UW or something like that. Despite it being the best color imo it's not worth forcing that hard, since you're really looking for synergy this set. Not sure how I feel about godmaw, I was usually either already winning when it dropped or so far behind trying to ramp up to it that if it got removed, I lost. Especially since it's not craterhoof, it basically costs 8 or even 9 if you have no lands in hand. That being said, the effect is great so idk maybe I played it wrong.

thanks chat gpt

elegy acolyte should not exist

yeah i'm not going back to historic

the only thing this challenge has made me realize is how unfun the meta has become

>>96230135
They complain but t1 mana accellerant is one of the stronger things you can possibly do... but a removal spell? Also a green deck should usually be happy about you blowing a swords on a 1/1

decided to draft some tdm

>>96230811
b-bu-but my ramperinos!! me want cast big thing!!!

>>96230827
Holy shit first ever 7-x
I didn't even think the deck was that good

>>96231166
congratulations, you won 2 packs and 950 gemmies when you could have made 6 packs and 1000 gemmies plus 2 play-in tokens were you to have played constructed events like alchemy instead

>>96228810
>True, but that's what green does every set and sometimes the numbers just don't work out in its favor
Lander tokens are great because it combos with nearly everything you'd want to do in this set
>Landfall
>Artifacts
>Sacrifice
>Void
>Tapping
Literally half of the cards that create Lander tokens this set are in green. Also green having some of the best big boys matters more in this set since it's slower paced, aggro is still possible but it requires specific combo pieces to work. Slower decks win by either playing out stronger big boys or by having a lot of removal and card draw

I got the dumb jump in token. Will there be an EOE dedicated jump in or do I just dump it on trying to snag a rare or 2 I dont have from normal jump in?

>play EOE
>draw all one land
>lose
>game two
>draw all other land
>lose
>game three
>opponent playing same deck but has perfect curve, never misses drop, always has answer to my plays even when it looks like I can turn it around
Yeah no lol give me back FF this draft sucks, worse than Ikoria

>>96231601
sounds like a string of bad luck but I kind of agree, the bombs are a bit too good and if you aren't playing that you are pretty much forced into playing mindless forcing 2-3-4 curve slop. Too many dead commons/uncommons.

aaah this piece of shit client never keeps my show phases thing toggled. googling it shows that it's been a recurring problem since 2022
ass company

>>96225586
is dimir ninjas viable in alchemy ?

>>96231729
no that deck gets clowned hard, too slow and too gay also little to no alchemy card support besides durrr me make you discarrrrr carrrrd

>cast godo and equip helm of the host
>opponent gives me the GG
>he has open green mana so I figure he probably has removal for my artifact
>he doesn't and just sits there manually roping me between each attack

>>96231746
he's just playing to his out

>>96231745
What are a few of the most retarded busted alchemy only cards?

>>96231788
waystone
naktamun
fear of ridicule
swift teachings
typhoon
recruit
thunderkite
thunderbond
buxton

>>96231830
The Alchemy shilling is getting to me. Dragon Typhoon looks too sweet to not play with. Shark Typhoon used to be one of my favourite cards back when it was in Standard.

>>96231858
come to alchemy and be relax

>>96231830
>>96231858
I built typhoon and it's giving me mixed results. feels fun to play but also things kill me before I can get it off

>>96231969
you don't have that urza shine

>play against this in draft
>don't really think much of it
>go to block the card he revived
>wait, it's not a token copy and it doesn't have a finality counter so he can just keep bringing it back
This card is actually kinda OP if you don't have removal for it

>>96231745
how about greasfang? abzan perhaps

Strong WG deck that got absolutely robbed of a trophy through getting fucked by lands twice in a row, to go 2-1. Started out with p1p1 haliya into three rayblade troopers in a row, and pulled solid stuff after that. Seriema was very good here, pulling out either haliya and becoming a big flier itself. Even better with big haliya because you can swing in for free with her and the flying body is easy hits. Germinating wurm also happens to work really well with small haliya, getting you the 3 life by itself, potentially twice. Same with radiant strike, a potential reason to cast it on your turn. The rayblade troopers were great, lots of counters, lots of tokens. At worst a 3/3 for 3 that gives you a 1/1 on death, good shit. Biosynthic burst is sweet when it's just creature on creature combat but man does it feel bad when you get blown out. I think swapping out a 3 drop for a pilot or two would've made the curve better, but all my stuff at 3 was strong so I just left it, might not be the optimal choice.

>>96232163
>greasfang

this is alchemy, grasegirl is long gone

>>96232489
>>96232489
>>96232489
new

>>96231166
it wasn't. you were too spread between all three colors when your manabase couldn't really support it. also, aside from your behold spells, the card quality in your deck is pretty atrocious too. still, congrats on the win.