Work in Progress "Big Choppa" Edition
>Doot doot!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOB6nqbMBJg
>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD
>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw
>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno
>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s
>Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI
>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM
>Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c
>How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk
>How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI
>How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g
>Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8
>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Df191WJ3o
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>>96212807i know i made one, it still surprised me
>>96212812 (OP)an honor to be on the op again anon
>>96212850Im pretty sure op anon likes some posters and hate others
>>96212893>Im pretty sure op anon likes some posters and hate othersI'm absolutely certain OP anon likes tacos on Tuesday nights and typically selects from amongst the pictures from the previous thread with regard to what we've been working on.
>>96212993cute, nice cog pattern
I've decided to change the basing recipe for this army. I think it looks better.
>>96213039Previous basing method for comparison. Now I just need to scrape off one hundred and fifty bases.
>>96213039>>96213050Wish people still dressed like this
>>96213059Be the change you want to see, anon
You ever postpone basing an army cuz you originally bought them back when they came on squares and u cba getting the right ones until it's gotten to the point you've painted a full spearhead of models without bases? Thats why I'm knee deep in a botanical garden of autism
>>96213189Anon, I will need to know your entire workflow for these, because they are one of the nicest looking forest/jungle bases I've ever seen.
>>96213242appreciate that dude, there are a bunch of 3D printed basing bits on them. Rocks are pine bark, mixed dirt grits and tile grout for the sand. Base vegetation is mix of fine foam flock, loose static grass and a crushed up dried leaf. Little bushes and shit are moss and lichen. Mushrooms are mostly wire and greenstuff. Bunch of random tufts collected over the years.
Vegetation might have been fine unpainted but wanted to try full painting them
>>96213371Awesome, thanks!
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>>96213371is this debris also loose static grass mixed with sand and stuff?
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Reposting from /wfg/, just finished this guy for mordheim/whu.
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>>96213461Yes, I do a layer of sand/grit then once its dry I do a layer of base vegetation. Its that fine foam flock model railroad guys use, neon green loose static grass and like mixed herbs/crushed leaf matter. Both applied with quick drying PVA mixed with water.
To get the loose static grass to stand up I genuinely use a balloon I rub against the hairs on my leg to build a static charge, does the job
>>96213535>Official Mordheim Vampire model inexplicably comes armed with a halberdYour idea - a sword - is so much better in so many ways.
>>96213691magic.
He obviously shrunk down a part of the actual forest and glued it to a base.
>>96213660It's not my idea, sadly. He's from a WHU warband that also contains a heavy armour and great maul, light armour and paired swords, light armour and mace with wings loadouts.
>>96213189>>96213371NTA, but I second that it's awesome shit and appreciate the tips!
>>96213189>>96213371>>96213595Beautiful bases. I really gotta up my game.
I fucking spilled my FUCKING agrax GRAHHHH
Curse yuou GW and Curse you not accounting for my 'tism.
I HATE pots
I HATE pots
I HATE pots
GRAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!
>>96215037Every time you spill aggrax earthshade you grow as a painter. Trust the plan.
My first mini with more than 3 colors and after watching some tutorials.
>>96215227eh, wrong picture
Gems and scrolls, should probably start the axe next
Somebody probably asked this before but - when painting miniatures or models up to 10cm in size, it is better to prime in grey or black? I heard opinions that black is better for achieving more natural shadows but then again, it would make all layers appear darker, at least initially.
>>96215241I may be wrong, but I think you put a dude's head on a gal's body.
>>96215763sigmarines are asexual.
>>96215908Have you been in a coma since 2016 or so?
>>96215037It's worth taking a day to decant all your Citadel paints into chad dropper bottles. Should be like 20 bucks for a bunch of empty bottles, maybe another 5 if you wanna add hematite beads as mixing balls.
>>96216147Uncultured yokel. You transfer from dropper shittles to divine glass pots, not the other way around!
I think brass was a good choice, but I'm wondering if brown fur would have been better than grey
Man AP Emperor Gold + Canoptek Alloy 1:1 (slightly less Alloy) might be my new favorite gold.
>>96213660There were two vampire models for mordheim, the halberd vamp in the warband box, and a sword armed vamp in blister.
>>96215037Have you tried not being a clumsy piece of shit?
I had sprue goo made from the remnants of a bottle of Tamiya ET Cement, and I tried to top it up with liquid from a bottle of Tamiya Airbrush Cleaner, and it's not dissolving in cleanly. The new liquid is kind of just sitting on top of the previous goo instead of incorporating and homogenizing.
The fuck is going on here? Is the lore about the ET Cement and Airbrush Cleaner being the same a lie? Does the supposed ~2% difference in formulation make a difference when mixing them? Is the hobby shop I got the Airbrush Cleaner run by scalliwags who refilled the container with regular acetone??
>>96216388>The fuck is going on here? Is the lore about the ET Cement and Airbrush Cleaner being the same a lie?No, it is not, it's literally one of the oldest tricks in scale modelling. I've been using it for ages, and everyone I know does too.
Have you tried waiting a little before mixing it?
>>96215037Another person falls victim to GW's intentionally badly designed pots. There's a reason literally every other company uses dropper bottles. GW uses those pots because they cause exactly this scenario so now you gotta go buy more, plus on the non-wash paints they can build up residue that prevents a seal, which in turn ruins the paint if you don't catch it in time. Plus you can't extract a single drop of paint to put on your palette.
>>96216251>>96216253Gelugons best devils. Cool guy. Where's the model from?
>>96216388The remaining sprue goo down the bottom might have started curing in which case it will take a lot longer for the fresh solvent to dissolve it. You can accelerate the process by forcing it to mix with a toothpick initially, leave it for an hour and then vigorously shake the shit out of it like a small child. If after the above it's still not dissolving, do a test with the new airbrush cleaner you bought and a bit of untouched sprue to see if it still works; it's not unheard of to get a bad batch that's fucked.
>>96216345And they both have another glaring problem, namely, no armour. It's a terrible idea to have a squishy leader.
>Finish base-coating a model
>Lose all motivation to keep going
Why am I like this. Basecoating is so satisfying and models look great even with just that on.
>>96216251what mode is this bruv
>Not doing NMM
why bother?
>>96216826Maybe start using a wash or dip afterward and call them table ready?
>>96216918Not every miniature needs to be painted to display quality.
>>96216857Looks like something from Reaper Minis
Just in case anon doesn't get back to you
>>96216857Reaper Minis Frost Devil.
>>96216826>Basecoating is so satisfyingI hate basecoating. I only start having fun when I get to shade and highlight
Finally got hold of and painted old Nagash, always wanted this guy since i was a kid.
Current progress on Tomb Kings team
Gotta wrap it up, got about a week to finish
>>96217464I really like the blue skin with purple shading.
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Working on heresy space wolves
>>96215714this looks awesome
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>>96210878Started experimenting with giving the scatter rocks a stable base. Clear plastic sheet with double sided tape as a substate, glue the rock to the centre and then glue down flocking, static grass, grout sand etc. This first one blends a lot better with varied terrain imo.
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>>96217694Example of it on the board I made with other scatter rocks for comparison.
Post a picture of your best "rock on a base"
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>>96217654>>96217654how does one paint models that look like this?? darkly shadowed but without it looking retarded?
I painted pic rel and it's kind of become my standard" style" for painting most things and my brother told me "Nice, I like the comic book style" but to me a comic book style is much more shaded
>clean my airbrush thoroughly
>spraying silky smooth
>use some of the vallejo primer I bought years ago
>haven't used it since i discovered Mr finishing surfacer 1500
>humid as hell outside
>drop a dried primed model
>a bit of the primer chips off
>bottle says to let cure 12 hours
is this normal for most primers or just vallejo?
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And here it is, /wip/. I think this is the best mini I've ever painted. Decided to buy a single chaos termie and a single loyalist termie to paint for fun (still waiting on the loyalist)
Just decided to make a warband up on the fly, my best guess is a Luna Wolves centered warband
>>96215714Who's the qt in the back?
>>96217199As a kid this guy was my favorite model that I did not own.
>>96215714looks like you airburush this.
I've never done airbrushing beyond a priming session or basecoat. Did you start with the shade blue, then do smaller and smaller puffs until you reached the zentih with your lightest blue? then you did the metal trim right? I never understood how people swear by airbrushes for army painting because most models have too much overlapping detail unless your talking about space marines or power armored single color armies.
also what is with the palm of the hand?
I randomly took the chromatic black pill and tried Payne's grey on a redish model. Friendship ended with black, Paynes grey is my new favorite black color. I should have put more faith in Vince apparently.
>>96218638as an ink? oil? wich one?
>>96218688Just acrylic. PA has payne's grey.
>>96216517Maybe I'm a clueless newb but I kind of like the GW pots because a lot of the droppers are hard or impossible to get fully open if you need to like drop mixing balls in there if the paint goes funny.
>>96215763Unfamiliar with GW's heads I see.
>>96218733Get smaller mixing balls. I have a few like what you're talking about and it's inconvenient but you can buy 100+ balls at any diameter past 4mm. I have my share of citadel paints also but that's largely because I started out because of friends being into warhammer and when I first started painting I used all their paints and paid them back by pooling new ones into the collection. There's a few citadel paints I'm fond of; their blood paint and the tesseract glow are alright but overall I don't like the general quality of their paints and they expire two or three times faster than the other paints I have. It's hard to tell if they separate out so quickly because they're dogshit quality or because they're in different containers that encourage that to happen.
>>96218399The loyalist should belong to the Paint Thinners chapter tbdesu.
>>96218638Well let's see it then.
>>96218764I didn't take a picture yet, I'm only halfway done the batch. You'll have to take my word for it. It's pretty minor though, I'm just using it for some hoses and accent parts.
>>96218399I like the idea of luna wolves who were like cut off by warp storms or something, missed the switch to "the sons of horus", so when they did get back to the galaxy at large and fell to chaos they still have all the luna wolves iconography and culture.
>>96218638how black is it? i use a mix of dark blue sea and black to shadow my reds, would that be similar? because if i can skip the mixing it would be great
>>96218399Figured id actually give advice rather then the other asshole, the silver is particularly thick, need to add more water to your paints. A good shade with nuln oil and a recess shade with agrax on the silver would help give it depth.
Everyone has to start to get good, look forward to your next mini.
>>96219044That is a nice thing you made, though the left arm looks much shorter than the right one.
I try to print the head separately, otherwise I cannot paint the areas behind it well enough.
>>96218755what a useless fucking post, consider the rope
>>96219044you didnt 'make' shit, you just glued some parts someone else actually made
>>96218399edge highlights are alright for a first timer. personally I don't think edge highlighting looks good most of the time it's done, especially on space marine armor since it is very round and the edges are so close to areas of trim or recesses.
Your eyes are pretty sick though. and I'm shocked you actually drilled the barrels.
you need more black or dark blue shade on some of the areas. particularly on the fist and where each section of the arm meets. such as where the bicep of the right arm meets the shoulder armor. the red cloth also looks good. is the helmet supposed to be a brighter color than the armor?
>>96218399Protip: when you consider it 100% done and base/varnish it, never strip/repaint it. It might look shitty to you in a year's time, but it'll also serve as reminder of how much you'll have improved.
>>96218755Thin your paints next time or I'll throw you off a roof, infidel.
gonna get spartan bronze later this week anons. I saw Dunc's khorne chaos warrior tutorial and the brass looks amazing with a brown wash and a light gold highlight that I happen to own.
>>96219593>>96218755see pic
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Anyone try out any of the lesser known paint brands?
New P3, TTC, Scale75, Atomic, MiG?
Interested in the new quickgen paints too, but AK's pretty mainstream.
>>96219659get ancient gold while you're at it, i think it's the best dark bronze paint i've ever used
>>96219676>TTC>lesser knownit's good. bottles are tiny and expensive but they're good. Cuirass leather I can recommend
>>96219676>MiGAtom paints are great for airbrushing, decent for regular painting. A huge improvement over MiG's older Ammo. Haven't tried the sister Ionic line that's supposed to be better for normal painting because it doesn't get imported to my region, possibly because of the legal drama around it.
>>96219289By that rationale, literally every single instance of creation is invalidated because they're using parts made by other people. Genuinely mental spastic opinion.
>>96219676I would call citadel paints good too if they weren't literally engineered to dry out as fast as possible, especially the thicker ones, thanks to their incredibly stupid cap lock system. Washes and contrast paints on the other hand can last quite long as they will hardly clog it.
>>96219705I should have said TTCombat.
>>96219748Yeah, I'd like to try the Ionic/Atom line but the controversy has put me off for now.
>>96219676I have some Mig paints from their scale modelling range. Pretty thin (as expected) but besides that nothing about them stands out. I have a modulation set for soviet green vehicles, and one for German dunkelgelb vehicles and some enamel washes for those two types of vehicles too.
Also some other paints to paint historical tanks. Good stuff, but not really any difference to AK or Vallejo model colour.
>>96219755I feel like we have a tourist shitposter since last thread, he should get bored fairly quickly
>>96219757The actual paint is perfectly fine and if you could get them in a vacuum, it would be all you ever need to paint. Too bad, in RL you have to deal with bad, small, and extremely expensive pots too.
>>96219676That diagram is retarded. While there is a decent number of good quality paints in the citadel range there are some that are actually terrible and nobody with some experience in the hobby would get them willingly
>>96219802The vast majority of them are good. Yeah, the whites suck and will dry out immediately but by and large the paints are more than fine.
Army Painter pre-fanatic were bad.
>>96219790Yeah, in case it wasn't clear I was referring to the pots and their closing system when talking about the drying/short lasting part.
The irony is that I actually like pots for paint, but I just wish the lock system wasnt designed to make the product last as little as possible.
>screeching about pots again
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>>96219826Reject modernity, return to screw top.
>>96219830>screeching>againFeel free to leave anytime, faggot
Ancient Brain from ArchonStudio, painted as Hive Fleet Kraken.
It should be convincing enough for a Neurotyrant.
>>96219676there's a brand you can only get in australia called SMS who make my favourite enamel washes
>>96219757I don't care how good anything else is Leadbelcher will never not be my standard silvery metal, Mephiston Red will never not be my standard vibrant red. I thought wraithbone would be chunky and shitty but it actually remixes fine and goes on smooth over a white primer so now its permanently the basecoat for a tyranid scheme. Sometimes you just get the result you're looking for with something and the possibility of finding a cheaper alternative isn't worth the experiment. There's obviously other paints in other ranges that are the same. One of the pro acryl greys is a literally perfect white.
>>96219912>>I don't care how good anything else is Leadbelcher will never not be my standard silvery metalLeaderbelcher is good but I seriously like Pro Acryl steel.
I think VMC are a meme, they are an absolute pain to deal with.
>>96219888Looks great, man
>>96219921My first hobby purchase was like a set of a few dozen vallejos. It wasn't a bad purchase because it feels like I generally have something close enough to whatever minor colour I might need for a detail, while also building up a collection from citadel and other since, but its like a complete dice roll what each vallejo one is going to turn out to be like. The black is very silky, gunmetal is good for a grungy sort of oily looking metal, the mid to dark blues really good, then there's an almost unusable light blue that seperates like crazy and a red that's meant to be standard red but is kinda dark and lifeless. Its like Russian roulette where one out of every few paints just turns out to have some kind of disappointing issue.
>>96219888Checked, awesome, I like the different varnish finishes.
>>96219762>controversywat controversy?
>>96219826the last iteration of bottles seal pretty well, you just have to cut off the lid they have on the lid wich causes most problems, it's convenient to get paint (washes mostly) from there but is badly designed
then again there's no sensible reason to get them starting with price
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>>96220098>lid they have on the lidlip*, this thing
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>>96220117sounds like a nothingburguer, who cared about this? 'twitter'?
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>>96220149Well the companies involved definitely care.
>>96220117Mig is just the Paolo Parente of paints at this point, but seriously, who gives a shit? Why should I, as a potential paint consumer, care about any of this? Is the paint bad because of some random drama on the internet? I guess not.
>>96219837You can actually buy similar pots on temu. So technically, instead of filling citadel paints into droppers, you could fill citadel paints and even other brands into nice pots with good screw tops.
>>96219851>>96220031>pot le BADIt's the most entry level reddit thing to say. Just leave, you soulless niggers.
>>96220271Too obvious, here is your last pity (you). Now go back to your retard containment.
>>96220281ah fuck wrong thread...
>>96220172yeah sure, how does that affect the average hobbyist and why should anyone care
>>96216147all my normal paints are in droppers. never spilt them once. I only use Jew W pots for their washes, which are admittedly good.
>>96216352no
>>96216517> GW's intentionally badly designed pots.I don’t doubt it. I think I buy 2x as much washes cause they always seem to eventually spill. otherwise I could use 1 pot for like 100 models easy.
>>96219676Scale75 used to have awesome metallics (super smooth, great coverage) and inks (very concentrated, e.g. I have their red ink which can cover black with one coat!), but supposedly they fucked around with their formulas/paint makers recently so I have no idea how much of that is still true.
>>96219830>please stop noticing the problem>do not believe your lying eyesno
>>96219826P3 had the only good pots in my recent memory. Coincidentally, they ordered paints and pots from Coat d'Arms who used to make them for GW a long time ago (back when GW pots were decent, heh)
>>96220438GW doesn't poorly design their pots, they're just designed for children and to be able to be used without a palette (in theory).
Monument Hobbies DOES in fact design their lids badly in purpose.
>>96219676OKC-anon gave me some of Saint Duncan's reds from Two Thin Coats for Christmas. They are thinner and creamier than Citadel's paints, of which Evil Sunz Scarlet has long been my favourite for my Blood Angels.
You still need to thin TTC paints, but I'm finding myself using them instead of Citadel reds lately for some things - especially Sanguine Scarlet and Demon Red - although there ironically hasn't been a whole lot of red going on in the most recent Blood Angels that I painted.
>>96220523>to be able to be used without a palette (in theory).I remember first time reading this on plebbit when I was googling why GW pots are so bad. It was incredibly, and I mean incredibly retarded back then, and it is just as retarded now.
>>96220530oh man for some reason I did not realize these were yours, johnny-anon
>>96220545>for some reasonProbably because I haven't been taking my pictures the way I usually do.
>>96220271Here's your pity (You) because I'm actually impressed you were able to type this shit bait without dying of cringe
>>96219824NTA but strongly disagree. Individual paints in their application might be good but the product quality across the board is abysmal. I recently went two months without touching my paints; all of my citadel ones had separated significantly while none of my other paints showed any signs of deterioration. Add to that the packaging which is designed to fuck over the consumer; higher likelihood of spill, loss of far more paint if a spill does occur, clogging of the pot if paint residue builds up on the rear side which in turn causes the paint to irreversibly die off if you don't catch it in time. Citadel paints aren't at all worth the asking price. There are some paints from them that I'll go out of my way to keep a stock of because those individual ones are good enough to outweigh the downsides of buying them but otherwise, I'd rather buy literally any other brand.
>>96220271Everyone says it because it's true. Just because it's a popular refrain doesn't make it untrue or even bad to point out; a dogshit product's negative qualities are foundational to establishing why it is a dogshit product. Instead of wheeling out the gamer words at people for voicing valid opinions, why not retort with the positive qualities of citadel paints? It'll be a short list, you won't even have to type all that long.
>>96220523They are by definition poorly designed. Look at every other competitor on the market. They're all using dropper bottles. They're basically foolproof; if you knock one over with gusto you lose maybe one or two drops of paint, they can't clog and kill the entire contents and you can easily measure out reliable single drops of paint for mixing. It's deliberate on GW's part so that you potentially knock over a $10 paint and have to go buy more, which is another opportunity to convince you to buy more plastic crack while in the store.
>the multimillion dollar corporation isn't trying to separate my wallet from me at every opportunity
>>96220810gw literally sends men in black every time I mix nuln oil with army painter purple tone.
>he's STILL trying
dude this is just pathetic, stop
>>96220920Wash the MIBs purple?
Learned elders of /WIP/, has anyone here tried using fabrics for making scarves and cloaks for your miniatures? Saw a historical wargaming YouTuber make a video about it, mixing fabric with Vallejo plastic putty to harden the final product. Seems like it would be thinner than green stuff, and slightly more pliable than masking tape, which I've used on my earlier projects with some success.
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>>96209541I'm sorry anon I forgot yesterday, here are the recipes
>turquoise(airbrushed): ttc sentient turquoise mixes with a bit of purple and black - ttc sentient turquoise on its own - ttc cursed blue - 1:1 ttc cursed blue:ttc ray gun glow - ray gun glow for edge highlights>gold: retributor armor - shaded with 1:1 mix of gore-grunta fur and magos purple, two or three passes for deeper shadows - ttc glistening gold - ttc canoptek alloy, layered by mixing the colors towards the parts that would actually reflect light>burgundy: ttc royal cloak with a tiny bit of ak dark prussian blue - ttc royal cloak - ttc sword hilt burgundy - ttc glistening gums>silver: ttc plate armor - shaded with druchii violet, highlighted with vma silver>jade: incubi darkness - kabalite green - sybarite green - ak pastel green - white>blue white: ak blue grey shaded with ak dark blue grey highlighted by adding white to ak blue grey>desaturated purple: ttc enticing purple, shaded with druchii violet highlighted with ttc decadent purpleI think that's everything. Here are all 3 sorcerers together
>>96221093I'm that anon's friend, unfortunately when you didn't answer he killed himself.
>>96221095Gotta pour out some Nuln for a WIP homey
>>96221093Excellent! Soon, Earth itself will be within our grasp.
Uploaded this and several other recent recipes into the MEGA in the OP
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>>96218475Yeah that was the general process, followed by recess shading and edge highlights. The palm is just like that on Saturnine terminators, except I also messed up the supports while printing and left some marks
>>96221122Just heard a sinister cackling outside. I live in Nottingham btw.
My best model so far, i think
Love 'thusa, simple as. What do you think bros?
yes i did paint her toenails black
>>96221772I realize the flashlight i used made her look yellow so heres w a more natural lightsource
>>96221772>>96221789I sure hope you're going to paint the base as well. She's pretty basic but not bad for a beginner. The hair especially could use some more variation since they're such a major part of the mini. I'd recommend you watch someone like Duncan so you can get a grasp on the basics
>>96221122Nuln oil pours itself out.
autonomous ritualization.
>>96221009They put a matte finish on themselves so the black and purple dont mesh well :(
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>>96218820>>96218973>>96219318>>96219439Followed your guys' bits of advice, here it is post cleanup. Thanks for helping me improve
>>96213371As in real moss and lichen?
>>96218399Love the colors anon.
>>96220218I regret transferring my 60 or so citadel paints to dropper bottles. I wish I picked some nice glass jar with a metal lid like tamiya paints have.
>>96220625I like pots cause they don’t jizz paint all over for no reason when you take the cap off.
Why do people keep insisting on buying more and more new 'revolutionary' paints when acrylics for minis were solved by AK 3rd gen a while ago now?
>>96223559Are these "people" in the room with us right now?
>>96223559Consumption gives more dopamine than using the paints. Simple as.
>>96223559Nobody insist on anything, people just want to either try to somebody else to try for them new things. Especially when you are new and unsure which one out of several brands you should get.
>>96223559Based AK enjoyer.
I want to stop painting in the same room as I work / play video games because it makes me stop painting to do one of those instead.
So I'm going to get a desk to put in my living room and work there.
Any desk recommendations? Do you have a desk you like?
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all my skelemen will get a funny face shield
Any ideas for good funny face shields?
>>96223559I mostly agree but there's a couple factors that other paints have that make them desireable. The new P3 deliberately covers like shit, which is useful for glazes, and some of the newer acrylics have a mixed solvent base that makes them stronger and easier to airbrush. I would also mention contrasts/speed paints but they just released the best line on the market, so it doesnt really count anymore.
Also, AK is weird with colors. Sometimes you simply cant get your hands on some of the more exotic teals or greys.
>>96223914I feel like desks are so basic that its not really like buying a chair, where some are basically fake products so uncomfortable they're not fit for purpose. I just got whatever the standard ikea table of appropriate size was and its been perfect. That said I'm using an office chair so I'm able to adjust height to exact level I want, otherwise the height of the table might become a factor, could easily be a little too high or low to rest your elbows properly.
It is dependent on space, but if possible I do recommend a decently sized rectangular table with seperate legs, a normal desk. For a little while I tried using a little square folding table with like two criss-crossing squares for "legs", and it just did not work at all. Not enough space, not enough open space underneath it for your legs, wobbly.
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>>96223025Aaand we're based
>>96213189Please share your color palette anon I really like it.
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>>96223269nta, but yes, you can buy dried moss in bags, it looks like small ferns, i know because i use it too
see in red, green is probably the dried lichen
I'm assembling 40k plastic miniatures for the first time and...man, this fucking blows. I was unfortunate enough to get push fit miniatures by mistake, but the mold lines and cleanup is awful. The AOS stuff is much better designed, imo. I'd rather deal with 3d prints despite usually preferring plastic.
>>96224290you can just cut off the push fit rods
>>96224328Trust me, I figured that shit out really quick.The fit is awful. Completely unworkable.
>>96224281How long do you think that stuff will last? It's organic so it must degrade over time right? It looks way better than a plastic version though the plastic will last longer than any of us.
>>96224346Not only that but I found that if the fit is tight you can actually trap air in the vagina reciever part the rod fits in and nothing you can do will push it together completely and if you leave it like that it will slowly over time push it apart again. Seriously,
>>96224328 do that
>>96219044Had time for a few basecoats and it looks much more cohesive now.
>>96219044proont or recast?
>>96224668Recast. Parts are:
>body and head: emperor's children tartaros praetor >shoulders and power fist: custodes aquilon terminator>tassets, tassle and spear: plastic custodes terminator captain
>>96224755Cool thanks. Its a pretty decent recast, is it cheap n fast?
>>96212812 (OP)Finished my jetbikes, now just a chaplain, praetor and 20 assault marines to do in 2 weeks in time for an event
not panicking yet
Any tricks for working with cheap acrylics for terrain painting? They come out all gloopy and thick
>>96225040Just thin them.
>>96224924>cheapYes. The EC praetor was $9 and the aquilon termies were $20 for three. Quality is better than GW as they generally have fewer defects and flash
>fastNo. Takes about a month to get here (AU) from China
I been messing with the idea of running a d6 Gundam game
I really want to have a lot of depth in mobile suit creation without just making it a second character sheet to keep track of
Is there a way I can make these things distinct?
I deep cleaned my airbrush with hardware store lacquer thinner in my tiny hobby room without a respirator and now I'm light headed. Thank God I started with more brain cells than I needed.
>>96225158I was priming some shit and accidentally dropped my airbrush without the lid on. Got primer all over my hand. Had to dunk it on lacquer thinner. Wasnt a fun experience.
Later on I found out that my primer is enamel-based, so I could had just used acetone.
>>96225158I also accidentally cleaned some of the lines printed on my cutting mat apparently, according to this paper towel
>>96225158That's just hobby euphoria. it's a good thing and should be achieved with each hobby session.
current work on bloodborne warband for mordheim.
>>96225115I thought I recognized that bright white resin.
>>96225180>I could had just used acetone.because dunking your hand in acetone is better.
Finally wrapping up the Intercessors and getting their heads attached. Probably the biggest thing I learned throughout this ordeal was where and when to focus on the edge-highlighting to keep my sanity. Even little things like the slight fraying of edges on leather few will notice. Likewise, it isn’t like I play the actual game — this is just for fun.
Still, I am quite happy with how everything turned out. Next update will probably be once everyone is applied to their basing with proper photos taken inside the lightbox.
*Repost since PS Express exported the file too small. Previous post should be deleted.
>>96225513It would definitely burn less.
>>96223917just look through medieval art, it's all pretty dank. "green man of york minster" "Blemmyes" "grotesques and gargoyles" "*medieval town* gargoyle". I'd tint them red in photoshop or something and then you got your shield basedfacing
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>>96215037You could just stop dipping your brush in the pot like an animal and use the tongue of the lid to put a few drops on a palette.
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Almost done with my paint holder, just need to sand it and stain it.
>>96225721Smells like procrastinating from painting your models.
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>>96225772Actually it mostly smells like pine resin. But you are right about my lead pile . . .
>>96225997I wanna eat one.
Hey does anyone here have good experience using AK paints for airbrush?
>>96224409being completely dry should last for decades if not centuries just like wood, if you also seal it with pva it will outlast civilization, but i'm no botanist
the moss i use is already more than a decade old and is exactly like the day i bought it
>>96223269>>96224281>>96224409Yeah real moss and lichen, its been collected more than a year back so is very dry. I dip it into watered down pva, it will suck up the pva and "fill out" where the fuzz will fluff out when wet. The PVA kind of plasticizes the moss when its dry, its hard to the touch and doesn't bend. Acrylic paint coats after that also help seal it in a plastic coat.
That said I've still got old moss ferns that I didn't treat with PVA at all on bases from 10 years back and they are all fine but have lost some color and gone brown vs green.
>>96224208I basecoated with an airbrush in a mottled pattern, no solid coats just patches of color in the rough areas:
Rocks: S75 African Shadow, AK Burnt Umber, VMC English Uniform
Plants: Castellan Green, Warpstone Green, Moot Green, Elysian Green
Then drybrush of cream/offwhite followed by a bunch of darker washes/inks/contrasts to add some shadows then back to washes of the basecoat colors to put some saturation back.
(pic is halfway through airbrush mottle)
What do you guys prime your metal minis with?
>>96226467Uhh the same primer I use for plastic, are you supposed to get something else?
>>96226467I think military scale modelers use some kind of preprime on their brass etched parts before priming. If you wanted to be super tryhard look into that?
I used to use commercial spraypaints on mine as a kid. If I was doing one now it'd be Mr Hobby I guess
>>96226678Photoetched parts and your average metal mini are completely different materials tho.
Man everyday I'm like "I should be painting but the weather is so nice I'm gonna go for a hike instead" and then I'm too tired to paint
>>96226467Vallejo primer in spray can works just fine. AK the same, Tamiya too. Basically everything.
>>96226684I've never used it myself, just came to mind when thinking "wtf else would I use to prime a metal mini with?"
>>96226715I will give cans a try.
I used Vallejo primer by airbrush and it sucked fat cocks, it peeled a lot.
>>96226704Good choice, honestly.
Theres plenty of days with bad weather, make the most of the ones that allow you to be outside.
>>96227234For airbrush: Mecha primer above all else.
Spraycans are just fine too, but they cost more money over the years, especially if you already have an airbrush.
>>96227241I got tricked. I chose to paint first, walk later, but then,
While people seethe about AI for good reasons i'm actually surprised how good chatgpt was for spitballing my own kitbashing ideas.
The full kitbash ideas were a bit on the generic side but once I explained my own it was on-point with suggesting improvements like how to angle the models, tying together different parts thematically, scaling down 3d prints in the back to de-emphasize them compared to the main units, basing placements to avoid clutter and it could even give advice between different gw kits on what vibes they'd give off and how that'd fit with the rest of it.
Even gave some decent paint scheme suggestions I might try out.
>>96227426Ask yourself who it is that seethe about AI... Literally /pol/tards and the post-tumblr crowd.
>>96226467>What do you guys prime your metal minis with?Mr. Metal Primer, tiny pinkish spray can.
Does it work better than a normal spray can primer? Dunno. Does it make me feel like i did what i could about priming? Yes
>>96227444the people who use it, use it, the people who don't, don't care. I don't care. It's boring to talk about, and especially boring that you started out this random paragraph statement with a bait to start an argument about "seething". We've all seen this argument about AI being good or bad 1000 times so can you please fuck off with this shit.
>>96227444>let a shitty averaging algo do all the fun work for me>no pics of minis postedYou are a massive cocksucking faggot and you need to fuck off back to your containment
>>96227531>>96227515This, I'm not seething either.
>>96212812 (OP)Another 43 of these fuckers to go. This is going to be torture
>>96227444people really don't want to think about anything these days, and trust a speech imitating robot to do it for them.
>>96227547is that a painting?
>>96227588Retards were (and always will be) retards. The only difference is that AI gives them (retards) an illusion that suddenly their retardation, ineptitude, and/or just plain old laziness won't matter anymore, that's why they cling to it so badly. It's a silly thing all in all.
>>96227755Holy mother of based and redpilled.
>>96227472>>96227515Unironically I caught myself from doing it, although by the responses it seems to have been on point.
>>96227531>>96227588All i'm getting is some food for thought on the things I already had largely decided on and things to think through that I otherwise wouldn't have when I was getting stuck on what to do.
Doesn't surprise me all that much that people get instantly buttshattered the second AI is mentioned though no matter how relevant.
>>96227948>doubles downAs usual.
>>96227968>nooo he didn't shut it down the second we called him a retard and replied to one guy repeating mindless memes how could this beFirst day on here I take it.
>>96223559AK paints are too muted. Good for historical, not for fantasy.
>>96228003Nigga what. The only paints that are REALLY muted are AP paints, because they have a fuckload of white in them.
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>>96227948Post models or stop shitting yourself and getting the ai to write bait.
>food for thought on the things I already had largely decided on and things to think through that I otherwise wouldn't have when I was getting stuck on what to do.you say nothing, you don't even proofread what the ai tells you to type, you're here just to start arguments. The quality of your post is abysmal. Please kill yourself
>Omg people are so butthurt about aiPic related
>>96227972And this proves it. Fuck off retard. If you want to argue pointlessly go to /40kg/ or any other gw thread
>>96227948post minis, faggot.
>>96228017Look at their range. Only a couple of saturated colors, mostly drab.
>>96228054Anon what are you even talking about. Have you ever used AK paints? Besides, you can look at Stahly's tool for actual comparisons.
>>96228024>>96228028>nooo you don't get into specifics now post your models while i'm already assmad so I can stalk you like a faggotYeah nah, i'll post those in another thread.
>inb4 no I would never do that no one has ever been a creepy fucker following image hashes on 4chanAll I was saying is that I was surprised that it was that good for refining ideas, since the first time I used it was yesterday. Weird how people freak out about it and go all pseud about using it in lieu of google searches as if skimming dakkadakka posts or watching youtube videos amount to much more.
>>96228091>zero minis posted (as expected)>some retarded narcissistic garbage>more retarded garbage about AIConclusion: Anon is severely retarded.
>>96228091You posted a thinly veiled, ai-generated bait you stupid faggot. Either prove you're not a shitposter with some kitbashes that ai "helped" you with or shut the fuck up and go jump of a cliff.
>>96227948I'm not mad lmao.
>>96228077I looked at that exact image you posted. The number of vibrant colors on that chart is very low.
>>96228198So, you've never used the paints, you haven't even bothered to check the comparisons, but you know they are not enough saturated?
>>96228209I've not used the entire range, have you? No need to get defensive, show me the comparison.
I need a hurts the eye pink contrast paint, any suggestions?
>>96226467Vallejo Mecha Color primers work pretty well on metal, they're a bit tougher than the other Vallejo primers (meant for Gundam models with lots of moving part, so they handle abrasion better) and go on nicely right out the bottle
>>96228396You could just mix a fluorescent magenta ink with Contrast Medium (or whatever the equivalents are for the other brands)
>>96228396Doesn't exist.
pre-shade with a cool purple/blue and
then zenithal or drybrush a white/light-grey.
Use doomfire magenta contrast (probably thinned, it's very strong), and then mix a custom paint using the Worlds Pinkest Pink pigment and your medium of choice to do the first highlighting pass and point highlights with a paler pink like any light pink you can find in regular mini ranges.
Idk what I'm talking about by the way.
>>96228231What is that? What's the address?\
>>96228261Exactly my point, mostly muted apart from the reds and yellows.
>>96228544>mostly mutedWhat paints are not muted in your view?
>>96228544I wouldn't call some of these greens, pinks, purples and blues muted but I'm no artist so you do you brother
Speaking about primers - I do have cheap set of airbrush with mini-compressor (those 10cm square things) but never used it because I was too scared of risking spraying potentially problematic particles where I sleep. Would I still need to take apart airbrush after each use? And can I really use their mecha primer without thinning or I need to thin it anyway and if so - how much?
>>96228548>>96228554No, not all of them, but most of the line is desaturated and not all colors have proper saturated variants.
It's very easy to desaturate a color by adding some white/grey/black, but it's impossible to make it more saturated. I'd like the line to be far more saturated from the start. My most used colors are only available as muted tones (blueish purple and cyan/teal).
>>96228674What painting ranges are not muted in your opinion?
>>96228681Most are pretty muted, but most are also less muted than AK. I'm not impressed by most mini paint ranges desu, but I can't be fucked to use oil paints.
>>96228714>but most are also less muted than AKNo, no they are not. Not only I have yet to personally see a range that would be less muted (and I've tried pretty much all the big names), you don't have to believe me, since Stahly's tool shows that quite clearly, too.
>>96227444>i'm actually surprised how good chatgpt was for spitballing my own kitbashing ideas.It would help to agree with you if you gave some actual examples about what you asked, what the replies were and what you ended up taking from those AI replies.
>>96228714ok at this point I know you're just trying to stir shit up lmao, fuck off
>>96228730If it wasn't obvious from before, retard-kun was either just baiting, or the only thing ai gave him was an absolute garbage (as usual). That's why he never posted any examples.
>>96228727>Stahly's toolLink it then.
>>96228734Ah, you're emotionally invented in this brand. That explains it.
>>96228520looks like a painting or a photo with a painting filter
>>96228758https://files.catbox.moe/t2lwgz.pdf
>>96228761He is correct, though.
>>96228758>>96228544>What is that? What's the address?\https://litter.catbox.moe/skapfrln8islcr55.pdf
>>96228770oh no, but thanks.
>>96223914Just don’t buy anything made of particle board or mdf. They always sag in the middle over time.
My brothers hobby desk is literally a board (granted a nice finished one) an top of 2 metal filing cabinet drawers acting as legs. Maybe not something suited for your living room in terms of style but having a dedicated place to put things away and keep you organized will go a long way towards not having your public space look like a den.
>>96228778>He is correct, though.No, I'm not trying to stir up shit. My opinion stirs this man's emotions because he is personally invested in [brand]. I should have known, since his opening line included:
>acrylics for minis were solved by AK 3rd gen
>>96228813NTA, but they largely were. Are there some better individual paints from different ranges? Sure. But AK just werks, and it is consistent across the board in every single aspect. Imo, if you REALLY want to go with just one brand (don't do that), going with AK is probably the best choice.
You claimed that they are somehow more muted than other paint ranges, which is simply untrue, if not straight up ridiculous, considering for, example, AP.
>>96228833Having browsed through that PDF, it's kinda hard to get a good overview. But most times I find a nice saturated color I like, it's not often AK.. except for their blues somehow. Those seem to beat the others.
>>96228853Anon, you are either colorblind, or you are shitposting. Use whatever you want, but stop making nonsensical claims.
>>96228865Where else does AK win out in your opinion?
>>96228761I'm not even the anon that was initially replying to you and I have absolutely no attachment to AK, you're just retarded. I HIGHLY doubt you paint at a level that would warrant this much bitching about hobby paints but feel free to prove me wrong
How do you come up with an interesting paint scheme for an army that feels like it only lends itself one real style? I struggle to think of any colors for Nighthaunt that aren't just the basic color GW uses because it reads to me as peak spooky.
>>96228730I dropped going over it but it was a mortis engine proxy, don't feel like going back to find my exact questions but I made a similar one here as an example using the more generic options that it provided me.
I first asked for ideas for mortis engines that are more oldhammer in style than the official one, which i'm not a fan of, and it gave me different options including listing gw kits or alternative stls.
I asked it to expand on one of the options, a corpse cart kitbash, while giving a more extensive painting guide and generating a diagram (less relevant for this model but it did it for mine and it helped a bit).
This isn't as verbose as the actual output but is roughly what it went over and while neat it only helped a little bit on my actual kitbash with the scaling and facing.
>>96229884It was more pic related that actually helped me, I had a few options but wasn't sure of which one to go with and it just described the vibe they would add and some options I could go with to change around the model to make it fit better. I didn't use any of them directly but it did help me rule out some and gave me something to go on.
That's more or less it. Just a neat thing I thought and was surprised at the decent responses.
>>96229884Huh, and I just noticed it screwed up the ascii diagram on this one while it didn't in the actual text. Well that's AI for you.
>2 sessions of airbrushing today
>priming
>multiple paints
>whites
>no blockage every 3rd minute
>disassemble only once, cleaning at end of day
Is this it boys? Have I finally understood airbrushing? Ive had this thing for over a year and its only today it finally clicked for me. pic very not related
>>96230247Maybe.
But more likely you're just thinning your paints too much.
>>96230321>But more likely you're just thinning your paints too much.I actually had to thicked up my primer mixture again because it was way too thin. That said, im definitely on the right track
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getting comfy
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I love that the % of /wip/ who are yuru camp enjoyers is so high.
>>96230751How many people here have started forest fires?
>>96230751I miss that one poster that was giving positive replies to people work, using Yuru Camp images. Sometimes, while posting my work, I genuinely hoped that he will notice me.
>>96230801I'm sure he will always be here, if not in person, in spirit.
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>>96230801>>96230817I'm still here actually I just don't post yc images anymore. I do my best to reply to most models posted though
>>96230823Based.
I feared the 2 weeks 4chan was kill did a real number on our humble little thread, but It has felt a little more normal here recently.
>>96230823Bless you, anon.
>>96230837>>96230840>>96230844I'll try harder, didn't think you guys enjoyed these posts enough to miss them lol. I'll get more yuru camp images, too :^)
>>96230823I see, so my work just offends you then.
Fine, be that way!
>finally get a day off and sit at the painting desk
>got my drink, got my music on, got my Glorius 3rd ready to come to life
>wife gets home and immediately demands we go to dinner over an hours drive away
>food takes another 40min to get tobthe table, it's shit
>finally back home after 3+ wasted hours
>my white scar rattle can sand blasts the mini so bad with grainy bumps in looks like it's fried in Panko crumbs
I should just fucking keep the airbrush set up. Have never had a white spray paint/primer work correctly.
>>96226313>paletteThanks a bunch anon! My brother in law just started lizardmen and he really likes how your base look.
>>96231483We've all been there friend.
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>>96229875Go with the flow. Try
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When painting large terrain blocks, how many bottles of paint do you get through?
Just finished the space Leo from the Gundam Assemble model line. That marks both Leo's types and Tallgeese completed. I just need to do their bases.
>>96231764>Gundam AssembleIs this the new tabletop they announced or just minis from a different thing?
>>96231860Its their new tabletop. It hasn't released yet, but they are dropping some of the minis as part of their new Gundam TCG starter deck combo promos.
Pretty happy with how this turned out
>>96231773>>96231776Used to have action figures of these two as a kid, only ever watched 08th mobile.
>>96231911That arm still kills me. How are you supposed to swing it? It has no range of movement. It's clearly shorter than his other arm as well.
>>96232055It's his ~*~strong hand~*~
>>96232055>swing itit's a gun, anon.
>>96232074His arm is a gun?
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made another space marine
>>96232190holy shit he's aiming a missile launcher right at me!
>>96232190>15-pack absn-natty?
>>96232195he gonna get you watch ou-
>>96232229from holding it in
>>96231713I don't paint terrain with good paints other than a coat of spray paint. I mostly base with a halfway decent rattle can in a relevant color, pick out some details, oil wash or 2, and varnish.
Calling them done. Next up is the Wraithknight.
>>96232374Somebody in this thread finished something!
>*PARTY STREAMERS*
>>96232379>Grab the torches and pitchforks! Gather the mob! Run the witch out of the thread! This is /WIP/, for fuck's sake! We don't do 'done' here!FTFY
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Hey queeromos where do you guys upload files these days? Preferably without signing up for some shit. Is catbox still ok? Pic unrelated.
>>96229884>>96229899Not even that bad.. I'm impressed. Now where is your model?
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>>96231542Nice gradients and the colors are lovely
>>96231776These are surprisingly cute
>>96231911Nice color choices and clean paintjob, I like how these blue gems tie in with the weapon.
>>96232190please don't shoot me
>>96232374These look way better than what you'd expect from batch painted models. The scheme is beautiful, really makes me want to start collecting Eldar
>>96232190are you deprimarizing primaris?
>>96228833Not to rag on it or anything but AK, like a lot of these trendchaser super flat finish paints from the last few years, are flat because matte finish = pro to noobs. And they get that finish with fillers. That's why they are muted (and they are). Flat is the opposite of saturated, in all paint, by definition. They also have good coverage even for colors that simply cannot have good coverage, like yellow. Guess how that coverage is achieved? More white, grey and black pigments (fillers). That's why those colors are more muted.
For the best example of this fact that hobby/tg people will be familiar with, look at Corax White. Everybody is always "it's not even white!" which is true, and "it's bad paint" which is midwittery. It's so off-white because it has a lot of fillers to give it the incredible coverage it has. Which is why you can coat over jet black with it in two thin coats. It's very bad at being pure white, but very good at covering over anything easily for you to build up to a pure white with whatever other paint.
When you haven't stirred a pot of it up, you can see all that carbon-black dust in the bottom. That's the filler pigments that make it opaque. All your AK paints have the same thing going on as well. Nobody's invented a yellow or a red or an ultramarine pigment that covers any better than ones we had 200 years ago. Minis paints use fillers, which also make them flatter finish. On house paints or auto paints, that means they are the lowest grade of paint and the least durable with the worst vibrancy. For minis paints, people accept it because beginners like the super flat finish anyway, it dramatically improves coverage (important for fast paintjobs) and it looks less garish and cartoony than more intense colors tend to look. They are, in a word, "safe" paints and forgiving. I myself don't paint Space Marines or many other bright, artificial looking colors so a more desaturated look reads as naturalistic to me, which is often what I want.
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>>96233068I have now made sure none of you ever use your pathetic unskilled sausage fingers to spill a paint pot, which only a small child should have done, ever again.
>>96233544very brave of you to assume someone won't just knock it over along with the holder
>>96233554Impossible. You'd have to sweep the entire thing entirely off of a table. They physically cannot be knocked over in the holder due to leverage. Although if somebody is over maybe 9 years of age and is still capable of spilling a paint pot, I have to assume they also fall down flights of stairs, step into empty elevator shafts, have cut off several fingers while opening cans and have lost most of their vision from staring into the sun.
>>96233544nice
the cog one looks better for fdm printers
maybe we should make a folder on the mega for 3dprintable hobby related tools?
>>96233568The Ecclesiarchy one works fine. I used organic supports I think, but you can get by without any assuming you are not super 'tistic about a pot holder's details. I'll dig up the Mechanicus one as well if anyone cares though.
Hobby stuff is why I have a room full of different printers. For FDM I just use it for painting related doodads like this, and sometimes terrain. Really makes off-the-shelf paint storage look laughable, that's for sure.
>>96233497So, what exactly is your point, anon?
I am painting this dude. Do you guys think giving him a gloss varnish then using a white ink so it flows into the recesses would work? The runes are the main part of the mini and I want to do something cool.
>>96234006I think that's what a lot of people do, yeah
>>96234006i'd probably airbrush a light blue with a stencil or small needle over the runes then do the varnish and ink panel line
im so tired of every mini having a tactical rock its not even fun anymore
>>96234179Tactical rocks and monopose minis are the scourge of creativity.
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Still WIPs, but how well do these grey scratches read as scuff and wear on the gun? I tried to put them in places where maybe the weapon was grazed by enemy fire or wear the marine might have bludgeoned someone with it.
>>96234499They're not very visible to be honest with you. Maybe paint the scratches with a silver instead and use this grey to highlight them? Or just paint silver lines along what you already have
>>96234179I just make a smooth pile of shit over the rock with milliput and call it a non-flat base.
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>>96229875I'm in the middle of trying pic related.
>most acrylic retardant is glycol or propalyne glycol based
>PG has a sweet taste
>adding retardant to mixs makes them taste sweet
>eat even more paint but its good
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made some terrains with the kid
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>>96233970AK paint is objectively desaturated, and I explained why that fact is the way it is and why those decisions were made. As the post clearly stated.