Thread 96217183

How do I get a /tg/ book published?

Uniiiiiii <3

>>96217183 (OP)
Why would you do that?
The rules don't matter much anyway.

>>96217183 (OP)
Well, you gotta write it first, and then you approach a publisher.

>>96217183 (OP)
Step 1: Write it

Wait, no.

Step 1: Write some stuff.
Step 2: Start an Instagram and Youtube account, talk about your stuff
Step 3: Kickstarter
Step 4: Write some stuff
Step 5: Take way longer than you meant to because editing is hard
Step 6: Your publisher starts fucking with you at the last minute, you have to get a new one that's more expensive
Step 7: Start breaking promises to Kickstarter backers
Step 8: Profit! (if you managed to embezzle properly)

>>96217183 (OP)
Write it
Get someone to edit it because you clearly fucked up
If a game, get some playtesters. It's honestly a good idea to get a min-maxing retard to try and break it because those dipshits always find a way.
Fix all the holes you didn't know was there
Put it on DriveThruRPG and make $20 while /tg/ throws it in the pdf share thread and talks about how shitty it is
Then you got two options
1. Realize TTRPG fans are fucking cancerous poorfags who talk shit about games while never buying them and you hate the hobby so you leave it to make model trains
2. Go be best friends with that Zweihander retard and shit up the hobby even worse

>>96217318
Men, finding playtesters is the hardest part. I have been bothering people for a week and they always come up with something.

>>96217466
>>96217318
>>96217256
>>96217255
I mean, what I want to make is not a rulebook, but more like a fantasy isekai light novel that feels like reading a TRPG book, in terms of the graphic design, art and layout.

If you're asking 4chan for advice, you aren't going to ever write a book, let alone need to get it published.

>>96217647
So write it and then self-publish with Kindle.

>>96217647
Oh, it's you again. Trying this stupid shit again? My first bit of advice is to actually find some TTRPG books and then read them. Actually fucking read them. That way you have an idea of what once looks and sounds like. If you're going to come here and ask how to write a type of book that doesn't exist and that you don't understand yourself, no one here will be able to help you.

>>96217183 (OP)
By accepting your time is worthless and you will lose money

>>96217183 (OP)
Uniiiiii <3

>>96217799
Dont do that, kindle is amazon and amazon fucks you on rights and lisenscing

>>96217183 (OP)
>>96217647
So, here's how it works.
>write your story in your late teens/early twenties
>send it out to agents with no clue in the world how the industry really works
>realise it's fairly generic and not as amazing as you initially thought
>get no responses at all from agents
>lose hope for a few years, just writing as a personal hobby
>read some new books
>realise these all suck too, so maybe there is hope
>start writing a dozen other books
>start sending those to agents
>get no responses at all
>put them into literary competitions for new authors
>never get shortlisted
>see the ones that do get shortlisted are dogshit but usually written by one of the "progressive" minority groups
>start submitting stories to agents under a "progressive" minority group pseudonym
>actually get responses
>usually people saying "if you re-write it with these changes" or "write this kind of story instead" and they'll take you on
>agents can only get publishers interested in very specific stories that change on a near monthly basis
>realise that's not enough time to get a new story done before publishers lose interest
>start hoping your back catalogue of unaccepted novels will eventually be of interest on the publisher cycle
>one finally does, usually thanks to a Netflix show or film that's popular and on a related topic
>publisher sets up a meeting with your agent
>your agent gives you the bad news
>publisher has declined your story because you're not actually one of the "progressive" minority groups
>agent also decides to cut ties
>sit with a grand total of 28 completed novels doing nothing
>try to self-publish some out of desperation
>realise you're bad at marketing so barely anyone sees them
>sell a few and get a couple of good reviews, but that's it
>have to unpublish them, as self-publishing kills the possibility to put them into competitions for unpublished works
>agents also won't touch self-published stuff, it's like a red flag for amateur work
>give up

>>96217183 (OP)
UNI SUGOI :3

>>96217183 (OP)
You can publish pretty much anything on Amazon with their print on demand format.

>>96217183 (OP)
Write books. Get an agent. Try.

On the high end, max about 2% of books submitted to publishers get published. So that's roughly your chances.

>>96219679
>Identity politics
>martyr complex
I already hate everything you've written.

>>96219883
It's okay if you don't know anything about the industry, but you don't have to be catty about it.

>>96219970
>2% of books get published
>It's because I'm a straight white man that they don't like me!
Yes yes, you poor baby. It's because you're a victim. Women are the ones who read, that's why 2/3rds of writers of young adult fiction are women. Wanna blame someone? Blame the men who dropped out of education and stopped reading.

>>96220036
Still with this needlessly childish, catty behaviour. Sorry pointing out the issues with the publishing industry have upset you this much. You'll definitely get published one day, champ!

>>96220071
>More identity politics blah-blah
I don't write fiction, sorry.

>>96220088
Then you definitely won't make it.

>>96220121
Nor as a professional wrestler, for that matter.

>>96220130
Or anything of worth.

>>96220137
Wow really laid me low with that one. Tell me more about how you failed because of the secret gay cabal.

crowd fund it, or self publish on indie shit like lulu itch dtrpg whatever

youre not getting a big publishing house to actually print your neat little game in the year of our lord 2001+24

Why would you do that?
The rules don't matter much anyway.

>>96218874
It's also by far the easiest way to get it done. OP's first book isn't going to be a best seller. Absent a huge astroturfing campaign, the only way anyone will ever read his book is by the Amazon algorithm recommending it. I read lots of fantasy and have a constant stream of self-published kindle litrpgs recommended to me despite never reading a single one.

After OP sells 10,000 copies of one book he can worry about getting fucked on IP rights.

>>96220036
NTA and I generally agree with you, but it's also true that Tor, one of the largest fantasy and sci-fi publishers, explicitly says that they prefer women, minorities, "queer" people, etc. I have no idea if that actually influences who they publish, but that's what they say they care about.

>>96227941
It's a chicken and egg problem. Did the focus on women's lit come as a result of men not reading genre fiction anymore, or did they get gay first?

A healthy rule of thumb is that the culture warriors have cause and effect mixed up, so men stopped reading and as a result publishing focused more heavily on women.

>>96228065
>>96219679
>>96219883
The guy is right. It is a huge issue right now in the publishing industry, especially among agents who heavily filter out works, where they only publish books marketed towards women or written by some group considered to be disadvantaged. It is why you have seen some smaller publishers pop up confusing on particular genres or marketing how they picked up independent authors. I know some people in the industry who struggled to even publish a children's book, besides their regular stories they wanted to publish, because some publisher considered the morals to be too Christian. Another person I know had stuff no one wanted until it was brought up she was Mexican.

To answer OPs question, it might be best to self publish a book that is designed to be like a light novel. There are a few places, or amazon, that help with that. The issue after would be marketing if you want it to succeed.

>>96217183 (OP)
1) Write a primer
2) Make a social media buzz
3) Expand the primer
4) Make KS or similar "help publish the book" campaign
5) Keep making online buzz during the gathering, make small incremental improvements to your primer
6) Pocket whatever money came out via KS
7) Disappear online, delivering fuck all
Alternatively
7') Disappear online, after publishing 100 copies of the primer, using local printing shop and call it a day

>>96228152
I ma slav, is dat disadvantaged enough? If not I guess I could be gay too.

>>96217183 (OP)
I put my fantasy story on Royal Road and have like, 250 followers

>>96217183 (OP)
It's a dead industry, and it's getting worse. It's fucking impossible to get published, quality is borderline irrelevant, and you have tons of autistic competition.
There are literally thousands of people like you who have already tried, failed, and are now just desperately grifting patreon on RoyalRoad or whatever the fuck while they work at Denny's.
That's your fate.
Too many people want to be authors, none of them have any talent, and the medium is dying. The only people who still read are middle-aged women with fujo mentality who just want to read Critical Role bullshit, except sleazier. When you're trying to publish fantasy, that's the industry you're entering.

>>96228152
The market caters to the people who buy things. If there's a problem, it's that fewer and fewer straight white males buy and read books. Publishers are biased to selling what people buy, as >>96228065 points out.

>>96229207
>It's a dead industry, and it's getting worse.
That's just false. Books sold are at an all-time high.

>>96229355
Damn that was comics--I didn't notice 'cuz it was on a site about print+digital fiction novels. Trying to find a graphic for it is being a pain. But anyway, it's up and the stats are out there--I apparently just couldn't find a pic.

>>96229355
Every straight white male I know reads heavily, but only reads the classics because contemporary works are all garbage

>>96229391
I mean anecdotes don't count for much. There are stats out the wazoo demonstrating that straight white males are dropping out of education, reading less, working less, blah blah blah.

>>96229391
I used to read religiously, but stopped at some point because the older I got the more cynical I became.
Have you looked at the fantasy shelf in a Barnes and Noble recently? It's all wannabe light novel garbage. Just a bunch of garbage from people who are publishing Brando Sando fanfiction and shaving the serial numbers off. There's a reason men don't read modern shit anymore.

>>96229412
Our society is becoming increasingly atomized and depressed. I love alone, and browse the internet in grim silence. Every time I turn on the /tv/ or look into politics it's just 24/7 vitriol about how I'm a piece of shit, everyone is a piece of shit, and everyone who cares about anything is an evil pedophile rapist. Every politician in our civilization is a pedophile, a rapist, covering for pedophile rapists, embezzling money, pushing propaganda scams, and cucking out to our oligarchs.
I've never met a single person who cared about me.
The idea of being with a woman who loves me is laughable and stupid.
My parents hate each other and just fight constantly, so I moved out.
Now I'm just rotting, luckily I got shot in the Army so I get paid disability. If I didn't get shot in the Army, I'd be homeless on the streets. I'm not being facetious; getting shot was like winning the lottery.
I try to read books, they're shit.
I try to play RPGs, they're shit.
Everything is fucking horrible, and I have no motivation in my life beyond survival. I have access to the GI bill so I could get a university education and a job... But why? So I can be a slave in an office, doing a bullshit job that doesn't matter, and just whether the collapse of my shitty civilization as my community crumbles around me? And yet, somehow, fat, cunty Karens are still reading. Hell, I have everything I can get already. I have a computer, and I can lurk in piece. There is absolutely nothing in my life that can be improved with more money, because I don't lust after endless commodities.
This isn't even a cry for help, this is just the reality of young adults are living. Life is fucking horrible, participating in it is useless beyond wanting to be a maggot eating dead meat. I love in an empty rentoid box, by myself, and get by with no issues.
And all any of the economists are concerned about is why I don't want to get a job at McDonalds. It's a fucking NIGHTMARE. We live in a NIGHTMARE.

>>96228152
If you want to make a buck from men, you basically need to pander to weeb coomers and write some harem garbage on Royal Road. They're basically the only men throwing money at shit

>>96229539
You're depressed bud.

>>96229539
I dunno if it's clinical depression (although you should find out), but I have no trouble understanding the ennui young, straight white men are facing. I'm not discounting it.

I'm just saying that there isn't some secret gay-feminist cabal at publishers deciding "hahaha, fuck straight white young men." What there are, are business executives, most of whom are straight white men, who say "publish books that our customers will buy," and that fewer and fewer straight white males make up that customer base. And that's why those authors are having a harder and harder time selling books. Because the people who buy books don't buy their books.

>>96229455
The first book of A Pitiless Rain, books 12-15 of the Black Company, comes out this November. I've been reading this series since the 90s. Gotta say that there are few years I've seen more upcoming novels that I'm more excited for, than the ones coming out this year. A buddy of mine even dedicated his 4th novel to me, which was published this year. Was super sweet. There are still plenty of fuckin' books out there for me and you, my guy.

>>96228576
Yes, actually.
https://www.coalitioncommunitiescolor.org/research-and-publications/the-slavic-community-in-multnomah-county-an-unsettling-profile
>It is a little unusual to consider the Slavic community as a community of color, for conventionally the community is considered White, and in all databases reviewed for this research, the community is included within the White community. So why this variation? The Slavic community has arrived in this part of the USA facing similar forms of discrimination and exclusion as did the Polish, Irish and Italians many generations ago. These communities struggled with language, employment, education and social exclusion. In much the same way, the Slavic community faces these barriers to parity and to equity. As a result, the Coalition of Communities of Color has formally recognized the Slavic community as a community of color.

>>96229539
You have clinical morbid depression.

>>96229539
This world is just illusion anon, always trying to change you.
>>96229953
> there isn't some secret gay-feminist cabal at publishers deciding
You're right, it's simply risk aversion.
The only publishers around elbowed out their competition and now that profits are at their lowest they can't afford to take on any of the risky projects those smaller publishers would have gambled on.
Same for every other entertainment media, just look at Hollywood.
No one buys what is being sold so no one will sell what they don't think will be bought, recursively.
Musical chairs of mediocrity where the only seats remaining already have someone sitting at them.

The bottlenecks of production, the costs of marketing, the uncertainty of acquiring an audience for a new product as there's little cultural pressure to care about anything new new... it all edges out anyone that can't cater to the widest demographics that still read, any product on the chop must be polished into an egg that anyone can shove up their ass.

Humans were never meant to be so interconnected with people we can't relate to, and the ultrarich who made it their life's achievement to dam the river of fortune brings ruin in every era.

>>96230399
There are more independent/small press publishers than ever before. Their market share is on the rise. The same is true for indie films.

The things you're saying are factually untrue.

>>96230399
Although I appreciate the VNV quote.

>>96230586
Tor, the one most of us think of when we think fantasy novels? Owned by MacMillan. Macmillan? Owned by Hotzbrinck Publiching. Hotzbrinck Publiching? Literally started by Nazis. Not figuratively. Not I'm insulting them:

>The history of Georg von Holtzbrink's publishing activities during the Nazi years 1933-1945 has been controversial.[4][5] After World War II, Georg von Holtzbrinck, a former member of the Nazi party,[6] reestablished a group in 1948, beginning as a German book club. In the 1960s, it purchased the German publishing companies Droemer, Kindler, Rowohlt and S. Fischer Verlag.

Literally. The owners who decide the financial future of the world's single largest fantasy novel publisher? Literally the family-owned investment company started by a member of the Nazi party.

>>96230662
Oh one fact is wrong: I googled it and it turns out Penguin Random House is the largest publisher of fantasy novels--not Tor. That surprises me. That one is owned by the German company Bertelsmann. Guess what period they became a mass-market publisher during. Go on. Take a guess. I'll give you a hint: it happened during a period when Germany was a uniparty state and their largest contract was to the German Army.

>>96230662
>Former member
It means literally nothing.

>>96230713
It means that your implications in >>96230586
are pretty fucking stupid. Both Tor and the largest publisher of fantasy novels became major publishers because of their connections not to Jewish people, but literally to Nazis.

So what you tried to imply is idiotic. Because you are idiotic.

>>96230728
To be fair, I should have put "The owners of" in front of my second sentence in this post. It's not Tor and Penguin Random House. It's the companies that own them--not them directly.

>>96230662
NTA, but when the fuck is WWII going to be a historical event instead of some constant excuse?
Bro, it was fucking 80 years ago. Almost everybody who was an adult during WWII is fucking dead. There's only so long you can really keep trying to guilt people over shit that happened nearly a century ago that--almost--no living person had anything to do with.
>Americans fight in a war AGAINST the Nazis.
>Somehow, I constantly need to be reminded about how I need to apologize for Nazism, and learn my lesson from Nazism, and I'm a Nazi if I don't like getting lectured about how I'm a Nazi, and did you know that all these companies are Nazi, and-
Dude.
I don't know how to make this any fucking clearer. It's over. Nobody feels any connection, responsibility, or guilt for the Nazis anymore. That cultural window is now closed, we're moving the fuck on. I wasn't involved WWII, my parents weren't involved, even my grandparents weren't fucking involved in WWII. Even the Germans don't REALLY think they're still guilty for WWII anymore.
It's about time to let this shit die, same exact kind of way that nobody gets all hemmed up about what happened during the War of the Roses.
The Japanese also slaughtered huge amounts of innocent people, but we don't fucking fathomlessly obsess over how they need to apologize for their race until the end of time. Nazi-this Nazi-that is just a thin excuse for incessant, illogical race agitation against white people. That time is over, and even if it WAS still relevant, white people in the US still come out of it clean because the Nazis were our fucking enemies. It's absolutely retarded how there's a certain kind of person who thinks I ought to apologize over Nazism.

>>96230930
Notice that my post has red numbers in front of two greater-than symbols?

That's because my post is a response to someone. Click that red text, and you'll see what I was responding to. Read that post, and you'll understand why my post is relevant to that post.

I don't care about any of the things you brought up, at all. I do care about the idiotic and easily disprovable implications being made in the post I responded to. Which is why I responded to them.

>>96230943
I don't agree with that guy about Jews running the media or whatever the fuck either, I'm just saying, any ties to the Nazis are, by now, completely irrelevant. Even if the company was Nazi, that doesn't mean companies right now aren't overly left-wing (The nicer way of saying what that guy was trying to say.)
Matter of fact, if the company really was Nazi, it wouldn't exist anymore. Duh.
I'm just really sick of this constant Nazi narrative. Nazis are over, and they're not relevant to anything that guy said. I think it's childish and reductive to to boil everything down to fucking Nazis still.

>>96217183 (OP)
Self-publish a pdf on sites like drivethruRPG.

Offer hard copies via pod only when you have a hard confirmation people want what you're selling in a physical format.

Publishers are to be skipped, they want nothing to do with small bespoke runs of weird niche hobby material and they're not to be trusted anyway.

>>96230984
Anon, the anon in the post I responded to implied that Jewish people secretly control the publishing industry. The fact that Tor and Penguin Random House are owned by companies whose CEOs are the white, male, married-to-women, literal grandsons of members of the Nazi party? Is absolutely relevant to disproving that idiot's claims. Which is what my posts did.

Get a grip, my dude.

>>96230992
>Publishers are to be skipped, they want nothing to do with small bespoke runs
There are tons of small publishers out there. More than ever before. And the small bespoke runs are the most fucking amazing of them all. Check out Midworld Press' Lettered Edition of The Black Company. It's so fucking beautiful. I am eagerly awaiting their lettered copy of Shadows Linger to finally get published. Been waiting since its original date in Nov 2024, and I'll happily wait as long as it takes.

>>96231009
I'm not disputing you. Ultimately, I agree with most of what you're saying. I'm just trying to tell you that, from my point of view, "Nazi" is modern parlance for essentially invoking the boogeyman. There are plenty of left-wing politicians and businessmen out of Germany who had a connection with the Nazis, same is true for right-wing, etc.
I'm trying to explain that it's not a relevant factor anymore.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you're taking it for granted that merely invoking a connection to Nazism is going to prove something; I'm saying it doesn't. I don't think the jews control the publishing industry, I just think that the connection with Nazis implies absolutely nothing about whether or not it's too white supremacist to have Jews in leadership positions. Do you *actually* think the company is *currently* Nazi? Do you think their historical connection with the Nazis is influencing their job policy or some shit?
Obviously not, it would be fucking insane if a business like that was still running.
So why are you pointing out the Nazi angle like it proves something?
Again, not saying you're wrong, I just despise that specific talking point, that rhetoric. It's asinine, an inherently bad-faith argument to make.

>>96231105
>So why are you pointing out the Nazi angle like it proves something?
It demonstrates that their grandsons aren't Jewish, anon. And their grandsons are the CEOs of the companies that own Tor and Penguin Random House. Which demonstrates that the anon who implied that publishers are secretly Jewish is wrong.

What aren't you following, here?

>>96231113
We're just going to have to accept that we're speaking a mutually unintelligible language, because I feel like you're too retarded to understand what I'm saying on a deeper level, and I'm too retarded to explain myself in a way that's getting through to you.
To be even more fucking clear: Nazism is over. It's done. It almost *literally* does not exist as a force anymore, barring small little groups. There is NO business leader in charge of a major company that is going to endorse being a Nazi, or accept their views, openly, privately, anything.
As an insult or indicator, it is thus completely worthless other than to signal how much of a leftist you are.
Alright? Can you understand that so far?
Next concept for you: Given that Nazism is gone, why wouldn't the grandson of a former nazi, I don't know, sell-out to the jews or something, like that other guy is saying? I'm not saying he's right; I'm saying your argument is idiotic. It doesn't make any sense unless you genuinely believe Nazism is still a factor.
It is similar to me calling you a Napoleonist, and expecting that to disprove you from possibly favoring monarchy. Okay, but even if there's a clear connection, it would indicate a fucking mental illness to actually expect any connections you have with Napoleon to mean fucking ANYTHING in a modern context.
This Nazi crap you're talking about is just historical delusion. They're fucking gone. They don't matter any more.

>>96231113
i think you broke him lol

>>96231211
Anon, I'm not interested in participating in the conversation you're trying to have. I'm sorry, but I'm just not willing to.

>>96231227
I didn't mean to.

Speaking of how fucking awesome small press publishers are (which >>96230992 got me thinking about), I only just discovered that Easton Press did a 1986, leath-bound, collector's edition of Downbelow Station. I fucking love small press publishers. It's cheaper now than their new collectors editions are. One of which is The Windup Girl. I know that "bio-punk" is lame as fuck, but I loved that goddamn novel.

>>96217204
his name is big boobs

>>96231256
Windup Girl was kino

>>96228576
Slavs have always been honorary nonwhite

>>96227941
I'm sure it's a problem but I've also seen absolutely dogshit talentless hacks claim the only reason they're not successful is because they're white straight males. So I don't trust everyone who pins it on that. Hell, sometimes it's their agent telling them that, and agents just want to be fluff their guys up and stay employed.

>>96230713
lol

>>96231256
>Anon, I'm not interested in participating in the conversation you're trying to have. I'm sorry, but I'm just not willing to.
Aggressively based way to deal with walls of text by the densest schizos

>>96229539
Another voice telling you that you have clinical depression, friend.

A lot of what you're saying is mostly true, but your affect makes it clear that you're super depressed. Try and schedule an appointment with a psychologist. If you're afraid of being told to start taking happy pills, just say that you don't want to. Talk therapy alone can be very helpful, especially if the therapist helps support you making lifestyle changes.

>>96230452
What I've said here is exactly what well established creators are saying as they struggle to make new things for their own audiences.
Why would there be a rising market of alternative publishers if what I'm saying is untrue? Who all distributes?
I'm not talking out of my ass, I can't link a Forbes statistician approved article to prove it to you but it's unrealistic to expect this data to be shared when it doesn't impact the signal boosted crowd.

I'm also not saying the situation is completely hopeless just really fucking steeply favored against new creators. Only now that we have reached this point of nigh collapse are we starting to see signs that Localized success is achievable again (No thanks to Social Media)

From the mouth of the current head of Metropolis records [One of the most successful small record labels] herself, you don't get to work with production companies at all until you demonstrate your success and build your audience yourself.
That is, with all the investments it takes. They cannot help you, they will not dedicate any resource to you if you can't put down money, time, resource, connections, and the well established track record it takes for people to think you're capable of returns.
There is no marketability, no margin like in the 60's and 70's to allow in anyone based solely on 'talent'
You have to do all of the work yourself from the ground up, and you better hope your author story is sellable too.

The only people able to create art they own, and be seen by more than a handful, are the ones buying their eggs directly from the farm. Not necessarily rich, but people who are well established enough to know exactly when to strike and where. People with a house in a zipcode others respect helps. Or indominable will.
>>96230494
We can disagree and still be friends.

>>96231256
Downbelow Station is a great example to remind people that women and guys have been big in "genre fiction" for a while. CJ Cherryh is a lesbian and always has been, even back when female authors were told to go by initials so that readers wouldn't know that they were women.

>>96229539
You are absolutely right about everything and the people telling you to "go to therapy" are demonic. It's over, it won't get ever. But I don't have to tell you that.

>>96232204
Show belly button and go to bed anon.

>>96232204
Just because it's ogre doesn't mean you need to marinate in sadness and hate. You can also try to improve your own immediate situation or become an hero, but that step is unfortunately irreversible, whereas you can always try for a while before going back to being a troglodyte

>>96232179
Gays*

I need to stop phoneposting.

>>96217647
>more like a fantasy isekai light novel
Oh, that's easy. Just stick your head in the oven and turn the gas on.

>>96232170
>From the mouth of the current head of Metropolis records [One of the most successful small record labels] herself,
Anon, I recognized the VNV quote. You didn't need to tell me who Metropolis is. PS: Unter Null has put out 3 songs for the first time in fifteen years, over the last two months. In case you hadn't noticed, yet.

>I'm not talking out of my ass, I can't link a Forbes statistician approved article to prove it to you but it's unrealistic to expect this data to be shared when it doesn't impact the signal boosted crowd.
Seriously that there are more independent publishers publishing more books than ever with a larger market share than ever before is demonstrable fact. I'll go find the stats in a bit.

>>96232311
I found some stats for you, but not the pretty graph you wanted showing percent books published independently, sorry.

https://wordsrated.com/book-publishing-companies-statistics/

>In the worldwide book industry, there were approximately 69,709 independent publishers as of 2020.
The region of North American has a 35% market share in book publishing, greatly contributed to by indie publishers.

>Out of the commercially available books, independent books make up around 40%.
For independent publishers, securing distribution (39%), returns (35%) and understanding distribution fees (27%) made up their biggest concerns as of 2022.

>As of 2021, the US indie book publishers with the fastest growth were Microcosm Publishing (1st), Blue Star Press (2nd) and Media Lab Books (3rd).

>A graph is given below to show the number of new titles by the fastest growing US indie book publishers:

>>96232170
>>96232311
Here it is: https://clereviewofbooks.com/art-over-numbers/

69k independent publishers holding 40% market share, w/ the big 5 holding the other 60%.

The attached is just retail book sales. Wanna bet the digital sales have also gone up, since 1992?

Unfortunately for total books sold (digital + print) most of the data doesn't go back very far: https://wordsrated.com/book-sales-statistics/

Also for anyone talking about book sales dropping, they aren't (though it's important to note that a lot of those physical books are textbooks).

>>96232336
Thanks. What I wanted was a graph over like 30 years but the internet is not being accomodating. Yeah your numbers seem to match what I was seeing, generally.

>>96232340
>last entry 2027
You know for people tracking an industry that employs professional editors... I saw another chart that had stats for 2922.

>>96217183 (OP)
Uni-chan sugoi!

>>96219679

Just post it on Royalroad and stub it when you get a big enough following.
If it's fun to read, people will read it, review it, and you'll make money when the book comes out post-stub.

>>96219883
>>Identity politics
>>martyr complex
Have you walked into a single fucking bookstore in the last ten years, you drooling retard.

>>96234157
This is the only right answer ITT

>>96217847
Do we know this guy?

>>96234164
>This post
Top fucking irony

>>96234164
>muh escapism
Everyone who says this enjoy their own politics being shoved into things and pandered to. Which is okay, but they're too bitch made to admit it.