Thread 96221892

Humans being what they are, they inevitably do things that get them disowned by their own family, kicked out of their family/spouses houses, lose their jobs, get arrested, etc.

How would such things be handled if you happen to live in space?

Who cares?

>>96221916
Because they are points of drama to build a game around.

Why was the body of an intern shoved into the garbage disposal unit?

Why was a drug lab allowed to exist in the work camp being run by people who "died" and are no longer listed?

Why is the government dragging away people with "psychological" issues to a facility that doesn't actually exist?

>>96221892 (OP)
No they don't. What the fuck are you on about?

>>96221952
Why are you being a bitch?

>>96221933
>Because they are points of drama to build a game around
What are?

>>96221963
Why are you such a psycho that you think everyone gets arrested and disowned by their family?
Why do you think it would be any different if you lived in space?

>>96221892 (OP)
Immediate execution.

>>96221892 (OP)
airlock

>>96222018
People can be disowned for any number of reasons. If your family is shit and you finally stand up for yourself or maybe you did something so disgraceful they don't want to go down with you and cut you off.

Are you really trying to act like shit like that doesn't happen and possibly for dumber reasons?

>>96222075
Not everybody's family is shit. I'm pretty sure only a tiny fraction of people are ever disowned by their family - far more just move away and accidentally-on-purpose lose contact while seething forever. None of those things are inevitable at all. Or, again, likely to be notably different in space.

>>96222075
I'm not brown so no, it doesn't happen.

>WHAT IF NIGGERS EXISTED... IN SPACE
>BLOODY MENTAL INNIT

>>96222127
>I'm not brown

Friendly reminder that tabletop games are not therapy and you need to figure out your daddy issues some other way

...Why are you assuming OP is asking about a "constant everyone" instead of an "inevitable someone"?

>>96222458
Apparently when it comes to sci-fi people having relationship issues with their spouse or their family is something that never happens.

You know, like Star Trek where the populace are so mentally and socially advanced things like domestic violence and such just went extinct.

>>96221892 (OP)
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>96221933
it's your fucking setting anon, don't ask us how it works.

>>96221892 (OP)

>How would such things be handled if you happen to live in space?

Asteroid hicks. Yes they might lob a rock towards your fancy ring. Don´t tread on me and all that.

>>96223402
>A colony of related families all living and mining an asteroid.

I have been thinking on a group like this to deal with; An insular family that tasks its family members with having various job skills and are basically a mini corporation of their own and contract their services to other space corpos.

Imagine having to deal with the "We don't like outsiders or dirt walkers" line from people like that.

>>96223454

Would likely be a bit "territorial". As in a territory where stuff constantly moves in and out of realistic range. Not entirely hostile except for the ones hellbent on developing funny mutations two or three gens down the line. Would likely maintain a "loose" network with who else is currently within range. A single tunneled rock might be taken out, yes. So only reasonable strategy would be to maintain some kinda "kick the beehive" mentality. Would imagine them being really nice people actually. :)

>>96223615
Can't call yourself a man in the family until you've spent a night in jail like your dad, brothers, uncles, and cousins did.

>>96222075
>>96221892 (OP)
I'm not sure what you're asking for here, shouldn't this be answered on a character-by-character basis? Any solution I can offer would be worthless without context. The hive nobility of Necromunda have significantly different methods of disowning somebody than, say, Coruscanti mid-hivers, to say nothing of the more atomic futurism of Traveler. Even in those settings, the answer can vary wildly depending on House temperament, the relationship between the father and their child, the current geo-political situation and -

- Do you see why I'm having trouble, here? You seem to have a character in mind for this question, otherwise you would not have asked it. Tell us about the setting and campaign you're playing in. I don't have much knowledge on Traveler, but I've got an approximate understanding of Star Wars, Star Trek and Warhammer 40k. Call me a Grog.

>>96221892 (OP)
long walk out the short airlock.

>>96224003
Clearly I asked the question wrong or wasn't specific enough. It's just an attempt to fish for more flavor bits to add to a setting.

Long story short, people who live on the ass end of the universe on a thousand+ year contract to dissasemble a dead planet and the PCs who have to deal with family feuds, various burgeoning criminal empires, and occasional psychic cannibals and body horror cyborgs.

There are no aliens with the exception of the few dying animals that remain on the world and skyscraper sized alien object buried several miles into the planet so 99% of all the problems are driven by the people who live between the planet, the moon sized space station, and few weirdoes trying to build their own sovereign nations on what asteroid they can claim.

>>96223454
Sounds kinda similar to the 29 families from Seek.

>>96224184
What's the QRD of Seek?

>>96224191
>Despite our best efforts, few survived faster than light travel. None survived the trip back. So we took a different approach altogether. We started bringing the universe to us.
>There’s no point. What hasn’t changed in the last four hundred years won’t change in our lifetimes.
>There’s no point. We’ve solved it. Everything humanity needs, it has. We’ve reached the finish line.
>There’s no point. Turn off the lights, close your eyes, and cover your ears, nightmares come manifest.
Latest Wildbow work, currently in progress. Sci-fi, basically post-scarcity society (it's been noted any scarcity is artificial to motivate people to actually do something when all their basic needs are easily fulfilled). FTL is deadly, but humanity figured out how to use the tech to steal planets from elsewhere and bring them to solar system to stripmine or incorporate into the superstructure ringing the Sun they're building. People are paired with "onboards", fully sapient (?) AIs and nanites that can manipulate their bodily functions.
29 families is an insular subculture that turns their newborns into heavily modified cyborgs (generally, only the brain/head and a few internal organs are left in otherwise artificial body), they maintain spaceships (with their modifications, they can crawl through cramped spaces or survive in a vacuum). They are hated by most normies (mostly, but not just on the account of turning newborns into cyborgs). There's some more stuff about their culture, but they put heavy emphasis on family and working together. One of the three PoV characters is a disillusioned member who spent years in prison after being manipulated into commiting sabotage/terrorist attack, and realizing how shitty the families are.

>>96224407
That sounds trippy, never would have though of just snatching planets from elsewhere.

>>96224436
It is. There are three PoV characters, one is the rat (common slur for the members of the 29 families), another is an onboard (no spoilers, has a lot of things going on) and the last one is a guy with erased memories from a point in a post-apocalyptic future where robots fucked up humanity and took over (apparently, it's not yet clear what exactly is going on in his time, or how long after the first two characters it is). And it's Wildbow, so there's some pretty horrifying shit.

>>96224566
Is this some kind of book series?

>>96224591
A webserial.

>>96221892 (OP)
Traditional games?

>>96221892 (OP)
>Humans being what they are
For now.

>>96221892 (OP)
>>96224179
Now with some actual context, depends on the living space available to them and population. If the planet is largely habitable, probably something like banishments for low population density, or imprisonment for high-population density. If the planet is largely uninhabitable, or space is otherwise at a premium, imprisonment or penal labor.

Exile is pretty bad, especially on a detritus world. Finding food is unlikely in such a place, meaning that the exiled person will almost assuredly resort to criminal behavior or die. Considering that one of the points of a justice system is to reduce criminality, execution is much more likely than exile in such a place. If the offence doesn't warrant death, then imprisonment, fines, and possible convict labor on less-sensitive projects are all reasonable means of meting out justice.

For non-crime issues that frustrate others, probably just treat that as you would in pretty much any other circumstance with people. Sometimes things escalate to violence, sometimes reputations are damaged, sometimes things smooth over in the end.

As always, look to naval stuff. Swift sharp public punishments, docking pay/conveniences, or bread and water in the brig before ditching them at the nearest location with air that they can.

Or on the hand, venting them. It's probably gotta be pretty severe to go that far though. Other settings have the lighter choice of freezing them until you can reach proper authorities.

>>96222152
This I guess.

>>96221892 (OP)
Families closed into small environments on Earth devolve into frightening dysfunction (wendigos, cabin fever, werewolf myths, etc). Space will be no different. As such, a family (or multi family) unit will need space sufficient to self isolate members or very short journey durations.
Irreconcilable differences would lead to self-imposed exile on ship and then a quick exchange to another vessel or planet.

This took me ten seconds to understand, and no other interesting alternative exists. You must be retarded to not have thought the same.

>>96226932
I did. I just wanted different perspectives. Thinking back on the ease of interstellar travel in setting I would probably have it so people going to the settings location do necessarily move their whole kin with them and those that do have their own thing going on.

This works out slightly since the idea is the part of space the setting takes place in is billed as a sort of exile or a place you can go to escape whatever bullshit you're trying to put distance between you and it.

>>96222546
Star Trek is "What if Communism worked the way I wish it could?" fanfiction. It's discardable.

>>96222018
They didn't say everyone. One a complete fucking moron would believe that population-level statistics means that everyone's a criminal. You fucking MORON.

>>96221892 (OP)
Sounds like Daddy and Mommy kicked OP to the curb. I recommend diving in front of a truck, OP. It worked for that fat guy in that one isekai.

>>96221892 (OP)
Assuming they live in a large enough community like a space colony or generational space ship, they would likely punish you in similar ways that you would be punished today: fines, forced labor, trespass from certain parts of the ship, imprisonment, death.

>>96221892 (OP)
Tell us which traditional game you plan to use this information in. State the name of the game, which setting you're using, how many players you have, and what make house rules are you incorporating.

>>96221892 (OP)
Most merciful options would be temporary imprisonment, extra labour, or reduced access to resources.
Maybe transferred to a different station or distant relatives if there's some larger organization that thinks their crime wasnt *that* bad and that the criminal is still useful.

Crueler end of the spectrum would be exile, slavery, or being harvested for organs.

>>96221892 (OP)
Depends on what setting (overall world and what you mean by 'space'), which is?

>>96233127
Even Star Trek required magic atomic assembly machines to make it work, lol.

Less cut and dry, how does a colony on a hostile planet or a smaller space station deal with non-usefuls? If you're in a situation where people reproduce normally rather than being part of a rotating crew, how do you deal with people having stupid/useless children that do nothing except breathe and waste water? You don't need HR reps or gender studies majors in the colony dome.

>>96221892 (OP)
This is at once an oddly hyperspecific and uselessly vague question.

Congrats OP you've probably made the worst nogames MUH SETTING thread I've seen in a while

>>96222116
>Not everybody's family is shit
80% of families are dysfunctional anon, that's a legit statistic. I can tell yours is part of the 80% or you wouldn't have such big issues with communicating.

>>96239838
Yeah, 80% of the world isn't white.

>>96239888
Neither are you.

>>96224179
Sounds like your setting has people mostly able to leave somewhere in a hurry and make it to another settlement. In that case, things will not be too different to Earth, except with different vehicles.
Actual spacers will be stricter (execution by airlock... but not ejecting the body because resources) owing to the potential for things going horribly wrong being greater. But those on at least a planetoid or large space station will cope just fine with ordinary bust ups.
It'll be different for whatever passes for nobility, but that's true now too.

You could have the exiles join weird cults/gangs to survive. That would work. (And have the actual what-passes-for-local-government/church be one of those cults that managed to win over its neighbors in holy war and metastasize into a religion.)

>>96221892 (OP)
Do you got anything yourself or do you just expect the good people of /tg/ to entertain your idea?

>>96239888
You mean 90%.

>>96221892 (OP)
You either behave or you are sacrificed to the void.