Thread 96242597

>Previous thread:
>>96195892

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>TQ
Name that one unsupported game that lives rent free in your head.

>>96242597 (OP)
such a beautiful model.
My fav unsupported game became supported after a decade+, which was void 1.1.
I was feeling a bit bad I havent supported its revivel too much beyond a few squads over the couple of years its been out but I just loaded the sebgames site to find a pic to attach to this post and saw a new hard plastic intro box, so thats sick.

>>96242597 (OP)
>Name that one unsupported game that lives rent free in your head.
I miss AT-43, it had a cool aesthetic.

On another note, Wacrow just announced a few upcoming minis to expand on the new starter set, including giant mechs apparently. The evil faction looks pretty cool too, like this dude.
https://youtu.be/XhWotBjYGZk

>>96242597 (OP)
Hi, looking for cool objectives Mechanics to steal for my game.

In the previous thread I was suggested to check out Malifaux. But can someone elaborate a bit on it? I googled and no one really covers Objectives. I get there are Strategies and Schemes and that you can score max 8 points and that you cant score in the first round, but that all I was able to find. I don't want to look for the book and read the entire thing just to find out what the Objectives are.

Looking for games with dynamic and different ways of looking at Objectives. Preferably Not something that has a Campaign built in. Skirmish game. I already looked at these
>Killteam
>Silver Bayonet
>Rangers of wherever the fuck
>THE DOOMED
>Zona Alfa
>Infinity
>BLKOUT
>Majestic-12
>LOONAR
>Last Days (or what ever the Zombie one was called)
>When Nightmares Come
>Frost and Star Grave

The same unit, the same universe but 2 different games and 2 different art styles. Which do you prefer?

>>96242775
Every match has a Strategy, which is the main objective that both players try to do to score points, and each player has Schemes, which are hidden objectives that each player picks before the match and can score at the end of the game and/or by revealing the objective when it's completed.
There's a consistent mechanic of having to do more of a thing to keep scoring it so it's not as simple as just doing a thing once and letting the points roll in
Some examples of strategies:
>five objective markers placed on the map, you can flip them to your team by interacting or killing a model nearby, you get a point at the end of the round if you control more markers than you've scored points from them
>five explosive tokens are spread among your units, you have to place them on the opponents side of the board and you score a point if there are more explosives down than you've scored points for them
>at the start of each turn a marker is dropped in a random spot along the middle of the board, units can take damage to move the marker, gain points based on how many are on the opponents side of the board
Some scheme examples:
>place 2+ markers near a single enemy model
>drop a marker in the enemy deployment zone
>have a model in contact with an isolated, pre-designated enemy model
These are all 3rd edition things though, and I think they've changed the general mechanics of them a lot for 4e.

>>96242681
How does it play? The rules I read so far are very different to other games I play

>>96242597 (OP)
>TQ
Firestorm Armada. It was and still is my favourite game. Too bad Spartan just had to shit the bed. Reminds me of the swedish company Cell (Ronin Wars, Krash, LAB) but somehow worse since Spartan actually had something good going.

>>96242775
Its AWG, but i still recommend looking into Warcry, some of the stuff scenario generator gives out is pretty interesting, and, surprisingly for a gw game, fun

>>96242872
Thanks anon! I heard that as well but whenever I found out stuff for Malifaux it was always 3rd edition I think. These objectives seem very interesting and Dynamic

>>96242896
I will take a gander, I don't mind its AWG. Most of the games don't fit what Im going for at all, but they still may have some cool ideas.
Im making something that will be closes to THE DOOMED from a Objective standpoint but its not really a campaign game.

>>96227102
Ended up buying the book (2€ so whatever). This seems borderline apocryphal, apparently a campaign system for like three locals in the Barcelona region. So weird stumbling upon it in pretty much the opposite end of the country.

>>96243005
Well, I guess that's that for the book itself, but could anyone help me identify the two minis found in the back?

>>96243020
right is em4 space ranger

>>96243029
Thanks!

>>96242877
Imo it's like a far evolutionary descendant of Aristeia, Corvus Belli sports boardgame
https://warcrow.com/en/games/warcrow/how-to-play
The dice they use, switches and alternating activations are similar. The face-to-face rolls instead are from Infinity.

Is there a zero-g wargame? Shooting could send you backwards, everyone can do air maneuvers, objects can be unlatched or thrown, etc

Can you please post some good terrain set ups for sci fi games that arent exactly cyberpunk nor grimdark, just any other kind of sci fi

>>96243029

I really should buy a few boxes of them, the designs are pretty good and I could sacrifice a few as the first minis for my son to paint. On a different note, some of the planned updates for version 3.5 of OPR sound quite interesting:

1. To Make Armies More Unique: A core piece of feedback was that many armies felt too similar to play.
2. To Balance "Cool Stuff": Over time, some armies received more unique mechanics, special weapon rules, and interesting hero auras than others. This update is a comprehensive overhaul designed to bring all armies to a similar standard, ensuring every faction has a comparable wealth of interesting and thematic tactical options.
3. To Define Strategic Identities: The rules are being distributed to give armies more defined playstyles. Factions are being pushed towards specific strategic roles—such as aggressive, defensive, or utility-focused and elite(Q3+ish), medium(Q4+ish) or low(Q5+ish)—based on the new rules they have access to, making army selection more meaningful.

As a refresher, the armies are getting refreshed in 7 ways
1. Faction Universal Rule found on most to all units in the army
2. Some Unit get an optional Combo rule with the Faction Universal
3. Army Specialty a rules that’s cool, different that the usual, and unique to the army
4. Mark/Debuff Ability for enemies
5. Special Weapon Rule Unique
6. Hero Aura Abilities Rework (5+ Hero Auras plus the basics like Banner(Fear), Caster, Repair)
7. Fully Reworking the spell list to match the changes, some of which will interact with the Faction Universal Rule

The proposed custom rule generator also sounds like it could be pretty fun.

>>96243080
em4 done upset me by saying their boxed games are coming back in stock but its been over a year and twice Ive chatted to their guy online and in emails and he says they will be back soon. `

>>96243077
Like NASApunk or just generic sci-fi?

>>96242837
The ones on the left don't scream suicide bomber to me so the left ones.

>>96243077
Maybe some of the stuff meant for Infinity?

>>96243141
>>96243120
I want to make a board for void 1.1 and the rule book says it's mostly a game about space colonization, hazardous planets being battled over by small forces trying to claim them and also inhabited planets with established populations living in cities.
The 'official' terrain was very 2000's gun metal hab blocks, science outposts and also 2000's style city scapes.
The first reply with more foiliage would be cool, the 2nd reply terrain looks super impressive is it mdf? For me it's too moderny

>>96243120
Wtf is "nasapunk"?

>>96243112

I need to find someone who stocks em4 stuff in Poland. Don't really know how much I'd have to pay in custom fees if I ordered them straight from bongistan.

>>96243120
>>96243141
>>96243077
I compiled some of the official terrain from soctia grendal's site. It's all for sale still it's just too expensive for what it is and I remember years ago seeing a forum saying the cool rounded science buildings are scaled like 20mm and dont work for 25mm games

>>96243232
the aesthetic of modern space shit, so lots of exposed cables and control panels with big puffy outfits

>>96243214
>is it mdf?
Yes
https://warsen.al/collections/cosmica-colony
Some of their stuff is a bit more grounded, maybe that could work.

>look up random figures
>someone made a range of topless catgirl combat maids
>stl only
I have to get my printer fixed, all the good things are so close yet so far.

>>96243565
>not sharing the name as well
ANON?

Havok is my favourite game to play, its so light weight, but I think it's a tad swingy with the robots

There is so many cool terrain pieces and models, but sincerely the hobby price markup is so ridiculous. This space ship would be like $50 if it was made for Buzz Light-year toys or some shit, but because it's made for "miniatures" they think they should change you $200. The worst part is that they 3D print it, so it only costs them like $10 in materials.

>>96232947
>>Then instead of actually finishing the main factions for 2e they blew all the dev time on a side project for a year.

Chronopia or something else I don't know about?

Pic unrelated is celtos

>>96244098
Well shit I didn't upload the pic

>new faction for conquest to be released at Gencon
>it's a single limited model
Am I missing something or are they releasing more today?

>>96243744
Nyarran maids at arms. There is a sfw version of the torsos, but like damn. I've been asleep at the wheel.

>>96244342
Oh hey dark penguin guy, I like this goon.

>>96243885
>ounce of cork: $0.10
>miniature basing cork (1 oz) $13.00

Does anyone have a Merlin Heavy Walker from the Konflikt '47 British forces? I'm curious how tall it is in case I want to print a stand in.

>>96244333
They previewed 5 units for them or so

>>96245437
>Konflict 47

>>96245608
Do you know where? I've only seen pic rel. and the first model they used to introduce the faction

>>96245688
PB did a Happy Hour showing them off a few weeks ago.
https://youtu.be/YaUmGO9vCnY?si=iMF3OP_0Li7sOnMH&t=2458

>>96245657
On further reflection, might just run this thing as it instead.

>>96242775
>Hi, looking for cool objectives Mechanics to steal for my game.
Zone Raiders has one where the secondary objectives add extra stuff to the table, including things like a nano-weapon monster spawner. It's definitely a campaign game with some stealable ideas.
7TV's got a whole bunch of scenario design options hidden in the supplements for 1e and 2e. I particularly like the one that originated in 7ombieTV where there are panicky civilians on the table, and certain models like police and charismatic leader-types an spend actions to get them to behave sensibly for a moment. Meanwhile the monsters can more loosely herd them around the table by making them panic, and their goal is to break up the groups of humans enough to eat the tasty civvies. The Maguffin mechanics that originated in Pulp and some of the funky stuff 7th Voyage does are also worth poking at.
SPECTRE 2/Asymmetric Warfare and Reality's Edge use civilians as a sort of hybrid terrain, resource, and objective system. They could be deep-cover operators, lookouts for cops or crooks, human shields, &c.. Gives you a bunch of ways to make more dynamic objectives like simultaneously trying to quietly evac an area while searching for a timed car bomb and not get your people murdered in an alley by an enemy deep-cover black-ops guy.
In Reality's Edge players can create and manipulate crowds and bystanders. There's also a secondary, digital battlefield overlaying the meatspace one. Capturing network nodes in meatspace gives your digital avatar characters a bunch of advantages and more mobility in cyberspace, and in turn Avatars can mess with things in cyberspace to make life easier for the rest of your team on the outside. Theoretically Reality's Edge is a campaign-based game. The way you hire up warbands means it's quite playable as one-offs, however. Mechanically it's a reskinned version of This is Not a Test with a bunch of cyberpunk tweaks.

>>96243885
>so it only costs them like $10 in materials.

For sure some of the prices are crazy. But a piece this complex and big can't be dirt cheap either. If I would print it myself to sell it, 150 at least.
Don't underestimate the amount of time and material needed for such a print. If I would want to print that thing, I would literally print for weeks and it would take at least 5 liters or resin. Assuming the very cheapest stuff for 15€/liter that's still 75€ in resin alone. If it's even slightly better stuff that's 100+ in resin alone.
Of course professional sellers have multiple printers running at the same time but they need to make some kind of profit in the end.

>>96244098
Heartbreaker:
>Our next book for 2e after Mars and Venus will be.. EARTH!
Literally every player:
>Go fuck yourself, where the fuck are Mercury, Titan, and Luna?
Heartbreaker
>Uh.. guess I'll die instead

Chronopia had been going on for a while at that point. It annoyed some of the Warzone crew, sure. Then they spread even thinner, leading to a long hiatus in Warzone proper before the first Earth book. People got more and more pissed because the higher-ups pushed back a bunch of planned releases for the other main factions to get the Tribes into production, pushed Chronicles back from bimonthly to quarterly to semi-annually, then basically went dark (even on the forums) other than a random FAQ and some odd rules changes that pissed all the tournament players off.
So when 3e came out and Imperial, Mishima, Cybertronic, half the Dark Symmetry, and the Brotherhood all got fucked over for something that was clearly a pet project for the devs.. yeah. Deleting the Cartel, 40-50% of the existing Doomtroopers along with many Corporate units, and removing about 90% of the weapon options in one fell swoop didn't help either. When you push personalizing your forces, converting and modeling as a main aspect of your business doing a hard pivot to streamlined tourneyfagging and making almost all models with weapon conversions illegal with no notice whatsoever is a real fuckin' bad idea. Especially when the nominal army size for everyone about tripled and the only minis that were shipping were the reculpts. The backlash was so bad Heartbreaker went incommunicado for a while.

Then the Pokemon crash hit

Ultimately I think their biggest mistake was insisting on dumping all the resculpted units on the market for Capitol and Bauhaus instead of trying to get out more books with a couple units and troopers for each army. The SKU bloat and self-inflicted dead stock on store shelves was a big part of what took them out.

>>96246359
This, plus labor costs are way more important than material costs. You need people babysitting the printers and prepping the finished prints

>>96246374
Exactly. Every 4-5 hours you need to take a printed part out, clean the plate, start the next print. Also, as a professional business, they have to price in some potential fails that might occur during their prints.
Thinking about it, and looking at that ship in their online store right now, with it's full interior and opening doors.. it's actually not that expensive, all things considered. That fucker is almost 70cm long after all

>>96243885
1) Dude, buy the fucking Buzz Lightyear toys, man. It's cool. You can gapfill with miliput or superglue and plastic strip.
2) There's a reason almost all the budget manufacturers use lasercut MDF. It's fast. It's cheap. It's low-labor and switches between products with a few mouse clicks. It doesn't require dies and presses like cardboard, expensive molds and injection machines, or sucking up entire build plates for one piece.
3) Using 3DP or cheap cast resin/plastic/metal dressing pieces like the Maelstrom's Edge sprue to spruce up toys, papercraft, and MDF is the way. Even cutting cardboard strips to add some dimension to MDF makes it look way better.

>>96246408
The spaceship from that buzz lightyear movie a few years back looks a lot like a Battletech dropship, but I don't think many toys of it got made.

>>96246371
>>Go fuck yourself, where the fuck are Mercury, Titan, and Luna?
Yeah... Tribes are a cool addition to the lore but they should've focused on the dark legion and the megacorps.

>>96246408
MDF is great, but the more complex (or prepainted) sets cost quite some money too. That infinity building posted above is more expensive than that ship but if you are willing to invest some time and effort, even the cheapest MDF building can be made into a nice looking piece.

Stargrave crew girl. For no reason.

>>TQ
Warzone

>>96243080
Oh my god. They will bloat to two page rules at this rate.

>>96243020
The Ogre is Dragonrune from Armorcast.

>>96246359
It's FDM, not resin

>>96246977
>at this rate
Brother there's so many additional pages they have added it's more like a gw hardback

>>96243080
>To Balance "Cool Stuff": Over time, some armies received more unique mechanics, special weapon rules, and interesting hero auras than others
It's always been super obvious which factions the writers played lol. Necrons were really severe about having double the options for upgrades so almost any unit could be given ambush or stealth or poisoned weapons or whatever you needed to tailor your list.

Anyway they need better vehicles. All of this stuff is nice but the optional vehicle rules are still pretty smelly, and still very much in the paywalled section.

>>96245729
Ohh cheers mate

>>96243077
checked
Here's my current setup

>>96243885
>>96246408
>Buzz Light-year toys
These are kinda a bad comparison. The movie bombed so thy merchandise is getting sold at cost or at a loss.

There's some cool paper terrain out there tho for pennies.
https://germy.co.uk/paper-models/paper-models-28mm/

>>96247503
So it takes even longer to print, and has an even higher failure rate that you need to price in.

>>96243080
>some of the planned updates for version 3.5 of OPR sound quite interesting
God damn it, now that I finally printed and sleeved the 3.4.1. rules?

>>96247757
Print time is irrelevant for print farming companies. All that aside, it is odd to see some anons always so passionate to simp for companies exploitative hobby tax practices. Consoomer brain really is terminal

>>96248138
How the fuck is print time irrelevant for companies who make money from selling the printed product? Faster prints = more products to sell.
It's rather astonishing to me how some people in here think it's somehow bad to try to make some money from your products and not throw them out for pennies.
A ship that size is essentially a table worth of terrain. If it's worth its price (considering it's fdm) would depend the size and amount of the layer lines it will have.

>>96248138
>Machine time is irrelevant to CNC companies
Are you insane or just retarded?

>>96248138
>Buzzwords

Anything else? How is it simping to just point out that the price is just fine? I did not even know this company before seeing the screenshot. All I know is that this thing is huge and even unpainted TTcombat stuff will add up to 100+ if I wanted to fill a table that size, with zero details and all the downsides of unpainted MDF, while in comparison, a table that size filled with GW Terrain would cost 750+.

>>96248199
>>96248247
It's not a CNC company fabricating and moving bulk product, it's a fucking hobby company that probably sells 5 of these a year. The limiting factor isn't how fast they can churn shit out on a printer, it's how many people actually buy the product.

>>96248264
>buzzwords
I stopped reading whatever you wrote as soon I saw this cope, I hope you didn't waste too much time typing it out. If seeing common 4chan vernacular being used on 4chan stresses you out, you should probably go back to redit or Facebook or whatever den of faggots you came from

>>96248732
>it's a fucking hobby company that probably sells 5 of these a year

And this is why they should do it for (next to) free?
Are you unable to comprehend that some people actually dont mind spending a few dollars on a product they like, and they could not create themselves for as little as $200?
Your seething actually made me visit their website, and they actually are cheaper than many sellers on etsy for the same prints. Of course, quality remains a question, but assuming its good, the prices they charge are also good in my book.
If you cant deal with the fact that a niche hobby product that has a niche target audience wont see a mainstream toy company release, then that is a /you/ issue Anon.
It does not make me a simp for that company to call their prices fair, nor does it make me a simp for Perry or WGA to call the prices for their miniatures fair. They are just that.
But feel free to look out for cheap plastic toys, because some gems can be found there too, but its not like some Disney toy designers plan their toys according to wargaming needs. And thats why "toys" within our tiny niche of the toy market always cost a little bit more. Such an unfair world, isn't it?

>>96248940
Not reading all that, you're as bad as the GW paypigs lmao

>>96249105
you should fuck off back to /40kg/, as that game apparently lives rent free in your head.

>>96249205
>no u
Nice one

Does anyone actually play one page rules or trench crusade or are they just fads for people that want to pretend to play awg without actually playing awg

>>96249429
OPR gets played, yeah, because too many people are way into GW-ecosystem but hate the current state of 40k. It's surprisingly popular for a GW-alternative. Trench Crusade I've never heard of anyone playing even online, only time people speak about it is when they speak of model designs.

>>96249429
I'm in a 14 player campaign for Trench Crusade atm, it's okay.

>>96249429
I played OPR a few times, and was not overly impressed. These days i mostly play Five Parsecs by myself and meet with some old friends occasionally to play Stargrave.

I guess for Trench Crusade you could ask the general, they might have heard rumors about someone playing it.. Personally i really dislike their art direction.

>>96249429
After playing about a dozen different awgs. It's simply too universal, makes a decent bait for my semi-normie friends that want to play wargames but don't want to deal with bloated rulesets covering such crucial matters as what to do when your dice roll under a coach.

>>96242892
Is that the one with the fishman ships full of gel or whatever? Always thought that was a neat idea

>>96249429
After playing about a dozen different awgs OPR remains my favourite system - especially the skirmish variants. It's simply too universal, makes a decent bait for my semi-normie friends that want to play wargames but don't want to deal with bloated rulesets covering such crucial matters as what to do when your dice roll under a coach.

>>96249865
>After playing about a dozen different awgs OPR remains my favourite system
Seems like going to a buffet and eating only mashed potatoes with no butter.

>>96248732
>It's not a CNC company fabricating and moving bulk product
They are, by definition, a CNC fabrication company. My 3d printer speaks the same G-code language as my mill and lathe.
And unless they're making them to order, which wouldn't make any goddamn sense, they are manufacturing bulk product to maintain stock

>>96249951
You do you senpai, I like my games toolbox-y. I don't really need 250 pages of rules that is mostly bloat for no apparent reaosn other than acting like the bigger the book the more complex the game.

>>96250002
I get that. But even among rules light generic systems, I find OPR to be very bland.

>>96249429
The only people I've ever seen play OPR are 100% Warhammer players who had some kind of breaking point with the official Warhammer rules or GW as a company. Their games looked identical to a normal Warhammer game except they had a different book next to them.
Trench Crusade is mostly for people who want to work on models as an art project but don't want it to be for "no reason" so they have a game to attach their project to. I've never seen them play it and it could have just as easily been a "shared art universe" with no competitive elements at all.

>>96250101
Nice, I am happy for you.

>>96249846
Yes, that's the one. Makes it harder to board their ships.

>>96249951
Not at all. It would be more akin to go and visit a dozen restaurants and states you prefered the all-you-can-eat buffet because it was casual and there was plenty of options for everyone.

>>96249865
Lol... Lmao. I was gonna write something but I'll just leave this where it lies

>>96250710
I was waiting for someone to say it.

>>96247583
I like this a lot, looks cool despite how simple it is

Has anyone ordered off of Ramshackled Games recently? Wonderin how long is normal for their shipping turn around time

>>96250336
It's more like going to a buffet and deciding to eat the napkins.

>>96252040
I ordered in late January and got my order in early July. But I think he was swamped by orders after people threw money at him to keep the lights on.

>>96247086
Ey, thanks!

>>96246251
Thank you Anon for the suggestion. I actually did take a look at a few of these but forgot to mention, the rest sound really interesting, thus I will check them out.

>>96242877
All I remember is throwing blobs of Therian golems at Karmans, and Cogs that kept one-shotting my walkers. But it was fun and there are still some batreps up on youtube.
Oh, and that Red Blok was underproduced, so moat people in my area were all trying to buy an army but couldn't find enough models.

>>96242681
No idea what this is but this is based as hell looking

Remember buying postage stamps and using a pencil and not knowing if there were any issues with your order until it arrived many days later? Pepperidge farms remembers

>>96255279
I just called to order.

>>96255285
But there were no iphones back then

>>96255288
>using apple garbage
Do you also buy GW?

How's Silver Bayonet? I've got some Napoleonic minis, should I give it a go? What else will I need or is there any supplement we should begin with?

>>96255279
I remember looking for miniatures in the yellow pages on vacation and I found a place a half hour away and my dad drove me there, to a liquor store with a giant selection of those 4oz bottles.

>>96252422
Dang, I guess I'm not getting my lil tank in time for my necromunda campaign.

Anyone play Stargrave? Is smoke really that abusable? I've got like 2 grenadiers and I can just plaster the board in smoke since it only has a 25% chance of disappating each round.

>>96254110
Yeah it's an interesting aesthetic for a human faction. Even their big mech looks like that.

>>96242892

God that game was great. The models did not need to be as big though.
Fun fact: The Halo ship game they made was handled badly, but the rules are still actually probably the best version of the generic Spartan Game rules they've ever done.

>>96255511
Afaik it's a globohomo empire faction with races other than humans in it as well

>>96255697
It kinda screams "we want to finish off Warmahordes for good" lol.

>>96255511
Looks like straight out of WoW.

>>96255810
It's got the part thickness, but the design is better than anything wow's done in a long time.

>>96242837
The ones on the right scream suicide bomber to me so the right ones

>>96255813
to be fair, i have not looked at WoW for a long time either. It just instantly reminded me abou it. Its not even an outright bad thing, thinking about it. Just a very distinct and cartoony style.

>>96255714
It's... Actually cool Wtf, this kind of Heroes of might and magic look shoudln't work. DUAL MECH RIDERS AT THAT, wich barely exist and minus in some so small.
Lads hold my pursue I'm too poor to get into another wargame.

Mantic fans: please tell which Mantic kits were manufactured by Archon Studio?
Also, Polish anons: where in Poland can I buy Mantic kits (excluding Paladynat as those fuckers are not even answering emails and their site is a shit)?

Does anyone know where to find stl's for rumbleslam minis? Or minis that would be good proxies

Is there a game that’s:
>Sci-fi
>Mini-agnostic
>Built around reaction mechanics, where stuff like shooting back when shot at or interrupting enemy movement through line of sight is core to the gameplay, not just a full-action cost like Overwatch in some systems?
I’m after something tactical for small-scale skirmishes with objectives, where reactions feel dynamic and central. I’ve heard Blkout might fit, but its pre-built setting and units don’t vibe with me. Any recommendations for games that hit these marks?
Bonus point: you can play alien monsters and dinosaurs, as well as a couple of vehicles

what makes a good sculpt?
details? pose? proportions? everything?

>>96257732
combination of everything.

>>96256020

New Nightstalker butchers, twilight kin, abyssal berserkers, nagarri, basilean paladins are done by archon I think. I bought once from Paladynat and their service was adequate.

>>96258190
>>96256020

The Ogres are Archon too.
If you can find a pic of the sprue, it says "made in poland" on it.

>>96257097
Infinity sort of fits, but
>it isn't mini-agnostic, although it is proxy-friendly
>there aren't a lot of vehicles, if you exclude bikes/small fliers/various drones and mechs
The reaction system is pretty much the core of the game.

Before I get this, does anyone know if the plastic for the lower abyssals or the naiad ensnarers sucks or not?

>>96258562
All minis in this box except for heroes are hard plastic. Lower Abyssals are not the best sculpts in the world but I have 60 of them and I love my goofy boys.

>>96255361
Thanks him for this tomorrow.

>>96242597 (OP)
TQ: I whish I ever played scifi warma, it looked quite cool and thought the mechanics would work perfectly in that setting. Would be a win if SFG recurrected it.

>>96258858
Unfortunately SFG has little plans for it in the future, not even any time this or next year, and want it to be either MyMiniFactory print to play game or SFG-exclusive 3d print game only.
Just pure life support state, not even sure if they ever plan to finish releasing all of the factions the game is suppose to have. Probably not honestly.

>>96257097
Xenotactics if you're ready to give up on vehicles.

>>96258839
Eh, he got his, he laughed at me for about 10 minutes straight

>>96255285
>not asking the store clerk to call for you

Why would someone watch the dead code over the 1983 classic? and why is there an entire general for it? I'm so confused.

>>96257732
The end result should look like a complete piece, rather than a bunch of bits assamled on a mode

These guys are going to be crazy. Especially since the champion solo can give them +2 to melee damage and +1 to hit.

>>96257732
The ones I liked when I was 13

>>96242892
I wanted to get into this game.
I wanted to run Pathogen because the idea of both kitbashing ships with greenstuff and also roleplaying as The Beast from Homeworld were really appealing to me.

>>96242597 (OP)
>still have entire MW and ISA armies sitting in my garage
What a waste of a great game. I'll curse PP with my dying breath for releasing empyreans and then buffing empyreans and then abandoning the game.

>>96242597 (OP)
Man, Warcaster is so cool. The game itself has really fun mechanics, but it was DoA and continues to be dead because PP sucks ass.
>>96261799
I have Emps and wish I'd gone with AC. Feels like it's way too late now anyway.

>>96244333
>shakespeare faction

odd but in a good way

>>96262051
I wish for a generic warcaster game but fantasy.

>>96242681
I like the ones shown a lot more than the first sets they released.

I may not have have got all the models I wanted on ebay but I did get these! I love em.

Does anyone here have any experience with the wolfenstein board game miniatures? I can get the board game for cheap and I would like to use those miniatures for K47 alongside other warlord models.
I didn't find much info online regarding the quality or the scale and I'd like to how big they are compared to miniatures from Warlord or WGA.

>>96263122
I've been reading about that Hitler guy and he seems like a wrong'un.

>German who doesn't eat sausages

That's your tell right there. The Doom board game has some excellent minis too, wish I had kept mine. They look like 28s to me. Occasiionally board game pieces are more 20-25mm though, deceptive. I hope you're not scalefagging about 2mm difference though, you guys have to stop that or just print.

>>96249429
Me and my dad play OPR all the time, being model agnostic is pretty fun

Man i hope new Konflikt 47 is fun.

>>96263330
Grok calling itself mecha-Hitler was great.

>>96263355
DO NOT REDEEM!!!

>>96263330
I found this picture online. My BA miniatures are anywhere between 28 - 32 mm, depending on the pose. WA eisenkern stormtroopers seem to be closer to 33 mm and valkir are about 35mm.

The ordinary human figures in the board game set, like the heroes and officers, might be towards the bigger side, but still perfectly usable. The rest however will be perfectly suitable for heavy infantry, not the mention the bigger models like the mecha Hitler or the robot dogs.

>>96262804
More original for sure, although the more generic factions are starting to get some interesting designs too.

>>96263355
Looks really nice. Great work.

>>96263355
I like the tie walkers and the Upper right one.

>>96263456
Not bad, not mecha knight levels, wouldn't pay what he costs tough.

>>96262051
>I have emps
I need you to know that I do not blame you for picking the cool alien race with neat looking mechanics but god damn were they busted.

>>96263744
Upper right is my latest. Bashed it together from various sources of parts, I wanted a mech wielding a 17 Pounder like a rifle, and it didn't exist, so I made it. Rules wise, it'll be the Merlin heavy walker.

I like that you liked my design choices and not the official ones.

>>96264263
VOTOMS vibes, looks good as sin.

>>96264313
Thanks. It doesn't fit particularly well with the other Weird War Two stuff, but it's fine for my purposes. And it fits about as well as this nonsense Warlord is adding.

>>96246408
From what manufacturer is the building in your pic?

>>96264395
>Picrel
Thanks, Gav, but you really didn't have to.

>>96264263
I'm a lover of kitbashes, perhaps because that.

What skirmish games have rules for cannibalism/sacrificing own units to boost other units? I want to play a game where miniatures can be used as a resource. I know that Carnevale has Rashaar which use slaves as snacks for their monsters.

A month or so ago I worked on a retro style website for old wargames. I spent a long time making it, making assets and today I tried to work on it more and it's fucking gone. Like it never saved my work, I had it on my browser not closed for days working on it. I want to kill myself, in fact I might just go ahead.

>>96265126
Nah bro, don't do that, we need autistic nerds than do that kind of stuff.

>>96265126
To be fair, if you have any of the assets saved it should be super easy for you to do everything again. Now you have to mimic your previous actions, no need to work out how to do stuff for the first time again.

>>96264680
Carnevale actually has a lot. The rashaar eat their slaves, the doctors suck the brains out of their madmen, the vampires slurp up their thralls, and the guild has blood witch whores who drain their simps for power. I think even the Patricians have some literal cannibals, although I'm not sure if they can eat their own units.

>>96264486
>From what manufacturer is the building in your pic?
Burn In Designs
https://www.burnindesigns.net/

>>96264395
That's just a fucking Vulture and they know it.

>>96264680
IIRC a couple of the Scumdogs in the GWAR skirmish game can eat their minions.

>>96265706
>>96264486
I forgot he built his page out weird, you can't get to the landing pages for those on the main page, you have to go to the "catalog" page
https://www.burnindesigns.net/2013/01/new-products-tmawh-habitat-unit.html
http://www.burnindesigns.net/2013/04/new-products-metaverse-towers-round-1.html
https://www.burnindesigns.net/2013/02/new-products-scifi-street-dressing-kit.html
https://www.burnindesigns.net/2012/07/new-product-storage-container.html
I haven't ordered from him in a couple years so I don't know if he's still online or not. Does some other cool stuff like 6mm Robotech terrain.

I cut out some cardboard to be used as movement plates to use my 100 year war english army as a human army for oathmark. think they look nice in ranks of 5. sorry about the poor lighting though

>>96265977
here it is with some random elements of fantasy/ outside of period stuff in a fantasy beast and a cannon that could be part of the force filling in the other arms of the army (IF I COULD PLAY IT)

>>96265989
>t. me

>>96265989
Preyton!

>>96252040
Dude I ordered from Curtis on THE DAY OF his "please help me I'm broke" event, months ago, and the package arrived yesterday. It's slow as fuck. Nice models and the man himself is an angel but you're not getting shit fast. I'm USA based though, bet you'll have better luck as a Euro.

>>96244333
Some new stuffs

>>96266500
The water horses look pretty boring but I think that might just be the paint job not adding any white foam to break up the blue

The fuck off big bird looks ace though, shame they delayed the Happy Hour because I really want to see those Weaver Courts units painted

>>96252040
Seconding
>>96266092

I've ordered from him twice to the USA, they took
3 and 2 months respectively. Good stuff, just slow delivery across the Atlantic.

>>96266700
well it's opposite for me, kinda don't care about big bird but kelpie raiders are neat. to each its own I guess. And yes I'm waiting for those moth riders remind me of chronopia swamp goblins dudes i always wanted to get

>>96266500
>>96266700
Can't say I care for the fairies. Give that Mastiga, the Cthulhuarmy or the Black Army.

>>96266700
Yeah, the paintjobs on the horses are pretty flat.

>>96266911
These are for the Sorcerer Kings.

>>96266930
Oh, same deal then. I'm still waiting for a truly monstrous army, hoping the Mastiga to be it.

>>96266756
I think he also doesn't keep a lot of stock and casts the minis as the orders come in. I asked him what the holdup was and he said he was casting my order that day and it should be out within the week. I got it a couple weeks later, which accounts for the shipping time.

>>96264680
Brawlmachine is pretty skirmishy, a few of the factions have that sort of mechanic.
>>96265332
This, I've done similar shit with my taxes, etc, it's always way easier the second time

>>96242597 (OP)
I recently found a bunch of STLs for warcraft models
Any suggestions for generic rulesets my friends and I could adapt to use them? They seem well adapted for skirmish wargames at the least, some factions like humans and orcs and undead have enough for small armies even

>>96265706
>>96265748
Thanks, anon.

>>96268205
jesus, I hope you didn't pay too much for these...
>skirmish
Sword Weirdos or Song of Blades and Heroes

>>96269295
I got them very legitimately I swear
and I'll look into both of those, thanks!

>>96263901
I just wanted to Wortwortwort with the boys but all I got was WAAARRRHG

>>96257097
THW would fit the bill the 5150 line has everything from sqad to space combat iirc.

>>96266700
w8 is the grayout talos on the right 1:1 scale wtf?

>>96264263
I really really like this one. It has that wondeful Titanfall-feel.

>>96269806
>5150
Hey, you are the second one to suggest it. But isn't it based on Chain Reaction, that game where you basically just decide where to move and everything else is decided by looking up tables?

>>96269952
No, that just means it's a monster not infantry

>>96271236
Image carrying garden gnome to LGS

Any Kings of War players here?
What's the best base sizes for multibasing oathmark undead skeleton archers at horde, and regiment sizes? Keep in mind these fit on 25mm and not 20mm so do I have to deviate from standard base sizes to fit them all on the multibases?

>>96271477
For KoW only the footprint of the unit matters. If you place them on 25mm bases you simply have to be creative with fillers between minis to make the unit look 'full' and busy. If someone will shit in their pants over you not hitting the RAW quota of minis per unit then they are not worth playing against in the first place. As someone who tried to multibase his Basilean army according to KoW official guidelines, I can't stress enough how much NOT worth it it was.

>>96270784
Not him but yes, all THW are powered by that ruleset with slight modifications.

>>96257097
>>96272660
>>96259890
It's weird that there are so few. Reactions feel like it would make for much more dynamic games, where there is not really any down time where you wait for your opponent to act.
Plus, it feels a lot closer to the way combat would work.
Is there a reason why most games seems to want to steer clear away from it. Something as simple as... I don't know... considering shooting between characters equipped with guns as an opposite roll, unless the other decides to dodge instead, feels pretty obvious.
Damn I'm tempted to design a system of my own, built around that. Is there something I'm not seeing?

>>96271604
Thing is I like oathmark skeletons and their size doesn’t support 20mm square basing to so multibasing is my only option. I’ll check the pdf I have for respective base sizes.
Is greenstuff a good filler between their puddle bases they have their legs built into in order to make sure they all don’t look like each skeleton is on his own hill?

>>96273775
You're basically just describing Infinity, and I think people just don't dislike real Infinity enough to want to pursue an offbrand Infinity instead of just proxying some models.

I want a game for this

>>96264313
>>96264395
looks more like Maschinen Krieger

>>96274253
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/enemyspottedstudios/killwager

>>96274253
all mechs look the same to me, can't you just play Battletech?

>>96262051
Warcaster is the coolest because you don't really get tabled. OFC if at some point you're just wiped the odds aren't great, but I love that you can redeploy models throughout the game. It really feels more like a PC RTS game.

Does anyone here have hands on Ember: OP models? Is the game vaporware? I saw physical models and runners at Gencon and I really want to play it, but the kickstarter was only for one faction??

>>96273862
>Is greenstuff a good filler between their puddle bases they have their legs built into in order to make sure they all don’t look like each skeleton is on his own hill?
Greenstuff is stupid expensive for that kind of thing. I'd use clay or acrylic molding paste (pic related: the fiber paste looks like straw trampled into mud, medium looks like rocky dirt, coarse is more like gravel). You can also sculpt up with chunks of foam or strips of cork and balsa for stability and then cover them with one of the pastes for better texture and waterproofing.

>>96274958
I love the shit out of Battletech and it really isn't a be-all, do-all solution. Nor is it the kind of game for someone who wants something that feels more like Titanfall or Ghost in the Shell.

>>96273862
Greenstuff sounds both expensive and complicated. I use large grain grit with a layer of fine grain grit on top to make it look like the models stand on even ground. Easier, cheaper and faster.

>>96273775
Partly tradition: most games aren't like that because most games aren't like that.
Partly setting: it makes sense for modern or future skirmish games, but rather less so for rank and flank and the like. Which feeds into tradition above.
It's very likely to encourage turtling, which is probably realistic but pretty shit gameplay.
Every enemy potentially reacting to every move will massively slow the game down. The active player has to think about who can react, the reacting player has to look for reactions and carry them out. It's not just more stuff to do, but more switching gears and back-and-forth. Adding dudes will quickly bog the game down.
There's probably a lot of space for game design issues to hide in that sort of system too, with all the potential action/reaction combinations.
Anyway Xenotactics is basically what you want, and it's good, simple, and free.

>>96273775
Well you did ask for a SciFi game. If you're willing to break this boundary we can add Crossfire, Fireball Forward, Disposable Heroes and probably any Fivecore too.

But yeah please fell free to write and share your own: wargaming started as a simulation needing an umpire for live resolutions; we dodged the umpire requirement thanks to IGOUGO but it's been decades of innovations in the TTG industry and we didn't reap these rewards to the fullest. There's plenty of room nowaday for umpire-less WEGO designs.

>>96276264
>>96276567
Thanks guys!
I think I'll go with the paste and try to get it in a small quantity for now because I can only think of using it for evening the ground of miniatures that are already attached to puddle bases.
Any other info I should know about this kind of paste before using it?
Is it any different from AK's Dark Earth Texture I can get at the LGS in walking distance?

>>96277677
NTA, but the only difference is colour, price and volume. The AK Dark Earth Texture has pigment in, so you'd add it after painting the minis. Texture paste usually goes on white/grey/black/translucent, as it's an artist medium, and is usually available in bulk for cheaper than specific hobby brands. Do a comparison with art supply shops in your area.

>>96277677
>Any other info I should know about this kind of paste before using it?
It shrinks about 10% or so, so you may need to fill it with a nonshrinking material or just go back over it again with a second coat. It's usually white: since it's an acrylic medium it mixes freely with acrylic paints. I premix batches using high-pigment artists' paints (usually Burnt Umber, red and yellow ochre, or Payne's Grey) to tint the paste and then fillers like basing sand or flock to add some volume. It does get paler, but umbers and ochres are literally just dirt colors so they tend to look pretty decent if they show through when you're done painting. Pic related is from my first few tests. It's all thin coats of Medium pasted mixed with basing grit and (back row) black, payne's grey, and nothing; front row is all straight burnt umber. I have another pic somewhere of some filled-over puddle bases, but I don't know if I have good pics of the "fine" paste (which I prefer using now).

>>96279518
>>96280233
Alright thanks guys!

>>96280233
>>96277677
Pic related is a (slightly sloppy) fill job with fine paste and grit with burnt umber over a very substantial puddle base. I'll post untufted in a minute

>>96277677
And the last shot. You can see the built-up look it gives the base. I've since moved to using hollow bases from WGA or the ultra-thin Renedra ones for this kind of beefing, not least because it reduces overspill on the edges. Which won't be a problem for you if you're multibasing. You could also use masking tape on the sides of the base to reduce overspill if you were so inclined.

>>96275830
Any idea where the 3d printed terrain in that pic is from? I'm guessing it's their own proprietary shit, but if there's an STL, I need that shit.

>>96280321 here >>96280322
>>96280335
you’ve convinced me to try acrylic paste from the art store.
Now primer brushed on will adhere alright to the dried medium right?

>>96280369
>Now primer brushed on will adhere alright to the dried medium right?
I haven't had any problems yet, it's basically just extra-thick paint.

Ayo lads, my buddy is getting into hobbying and picked up wargames atlantic's Foot knights, anyone know of a simple skirmish game system we can use with it without too much investment? I'm a dab hand with making terrain so that's not an issue.

https://warlord-community.warlordgames.com/konflikt-47-whats-in-the-dice-bag/

First rules tease for k47. Order dice as normal but it also covers Rift dice

>>96258562
>>96258738
Gigachad wargamer detected.

>>96280686
Check out Lion Rampant from Osprey.

Something went wrong during development

>>96274253
The mech thread has a ton of them, but here is one that's made specifically with Gunpla/Plamo in mind: https://mechastellar.com/

>>96280686
I'd recommend Clash of Spears but that takes about 20-30 minis a side to really get going.
But if you're willing to put in some effort to build your own warbands En Garde! is frigging fantastic. Especially if you throw in a few Robin Hood or Court Jester-style characters to buckle your swash even more. The Osprey website has a downloads section with some extra rules for including fantasy critters, light magic, and a QRS for the game. I really like the combat system (it involves shell games with attack and defense actions) and it flows really well. My only complaint is that it's a little light on campaign rules, which sounds like it probably won't be a problem for you, and not quite enough allowance for swinging on chandeliers for a game that's ostensibly a swashbuckler. I'd also recommend poking around for scenario ideas in other games, the ones in the book will eventually run a bit dry.
...Oh, and buy some cow and pig minis, cattle raids are ALWAYS fun

>>96269806
>the 5150 line
I'm looking through it at the moment: https://rebelminispress.com/collections/sci-fi-games
I'm not too sure I understand what's the difference between some of these games.
I assume 5150 Star Marines is more military focused, but what's the difference between New Beginnings and Fringe Space? Or Dark Planet?
Holy fuck there is Star Marines AND Star Army?!

These games looks cool AF though. "Win or Die, Racing the Wasteland" seems right up my alley, I was looking for a Mad Max game that's not Gaslands

>>96282866
>The Osprey website has a downloads section with some extra rules for including fantasy critters, light magic, and a QRS for the game.
NTA but I don't see it

>>96280686
I don't know what the other anons are on but the right answer is Outremer from Osprey so your mate can start playing right away.

>>96271477
I am. Got 4k points of old ogres, 2 Giants, a slasher, chariots, cav. 2k points of dwarves, mostly artillery, missile troops and melee. 500 points of Empire of Dust and a lot of different KoW units from other factions I got from mystery boxes.

It's my favorite game. Better than anything GW ever made rules-wise and the setting is okay.

What you wanna know? I'm 29yo.

>>96283396
>I'm 29yo.
Why does it matter tho?

>>96242597 (OP)
Looking into Oathmark,
What race should I proxy my Lizardmen as? Dwarves for not running away and beeing slow but they don’t get cav,
Maybe just stick to humans and use kroxys as ogres?

>>96283702
Not a bad plan.

>>96282669
Its called "Wizkids" because they pee on children.

>>96283702
Its Oathmark, just grab cavalry off one of the other races, like Goblins or Humans.

Latest purchase. Ive never seen plastic sprues come in black. Very excited to paint these, the rules are similar to 40k but better with alternating activations 20 years ago
Ive got sone metal junkers, an exo suit and assault marines with melee weapons so ill have a good mix for good void tactics. Berserker sarge is a very cool model

Working on another scatter piece today, wanted to create some with a little bit more contiguous cover. Letting the superglue and plastic cement dry right now, then will go in with some texture paste to start the basing.

More mantic terrain crate stuff I bought years ago. I've said before I'm not a huge fan of the stuff, but it is okay if you can get a good deal on it. You don't need to assemble anything, you don't even have to prime it. They suggest you do, but these were done straight on the PVC. Looked fine to me.

But who is this little interloper sneaking about among the crates and barrels?

>>96283947
Man I would buy like a half dozen boxes of Urban War shit if it wasn't for the retarded Brexit shipping. On one hand 20 britbucks shouldn't be considered a deal-breaker but on the other hand paying 2/3 of a starter box price in shipping feels morally wrong.

First interdiction marine built. I tried to mimick the 1st edition rulebook cover, though interdiction marines never had blade arms (until urban war)
>>96284183
I guess its a rule of volume, getting just the starter isn't worth it but if you save up for a month put aside a little more and buy all the support models youd like it makes it worth it
>>96284183

>>96284204
Yeah I simply don't agree with how the UK-EU shipping is being handled in general. There is a lot of other stuff I want to get anyway so unless Seb-games finds a way to have their stuff sold by EU retailers or big UK retailers, they will always be at the very end of my to-buy list.

>>96284219
I dont see Seb being able to have a retailer, its an actual miracle theyve managed to keep void alive as much as they have, I remember a few years ago he posted about giving it up but it managed to persist. It is a shame about the shipping but sometimes its worth it. A lot of wargames never got big in england so I have to pay shipping to get them here

>>96283955
>>96283962
https://share.google/7L6GZOvmKUorkiNmB

>>96284219
Me whenever I think of buying anything from dream pod 9 and I remember their flat $55 USD international shipping. I would've bought so much stuff from those guys by now but I always pull at the last second.

It's not complicated I'm just not paying 80 fucking dollarydoos in shipping on already expensive minis!

May have not put a shoulder pad on the junker but what a cool pose

>>96284836
Black plastic looks so uncanny. Is it HIPS or siocast? I know they come on sprues but something feels off about the material.

>>96284914
I dont know how soicast feels, but this feels like very sturdy hard plastic, more sturdy than what warhammer comes in.

>>96284929
Siocast is soft, kind of rubbery. It's very hard to clean it and it doesn't melt if you try to glue it with plastic glue.

>>96283962
RAT

>>96284950
It's definitely not that then! Nothing beats the metals but the plastics are nice to have

>>96285193
based and metalpilled

>>96284914
That looks more like what Tehnolog uses. A children toy plastic. It's sturdy, but less flexible than standard miniature plastic GW uses for example. And a pain in the ass to prime.

>>96285353
Luckily it's the only plastic models in the range, and they are supposed to be basic troop army builders which is why packs come in 10 for £16 or the huge army box. I think it's okay to have the batte liners be this way so that we can enjoy the more unique models but thats just me

>>96285353
Is em4 using the same material for their plastic minis? I want to buy their Dwarves and Orcs but I want to convert them extensively and fuck me if I enjoy using super glue for converting.

>>96285684
Yes, it should be the same stuff. Or very similar.

It's pretty rough constantly looking at the rules so I have tried to make a unit card for void. It's not perfect because this doesnt cover every type of berserker and equipment it has but im playing void tactics where it's a single model anyway, either way the back can have way more info on it too.

>>96285769
I'll make some for my viridians now. I really need a printer

I see the Oathmark Goblin Slave kit has some chains on the sprue. Does anyone know if they're meant to attach to any particular part?

>>96285894
Last one I'll post. This should make playing much easier

Russian and Ukrainian army progress

>>96286217
Nice. Now you need sick table.

>>96286217
Neat. Who makes the wounded tanker model?

>>96286369
https://www.empressminiatures.com/cwr08-752-p.asp

It's from Empress

>>96286236
Thanks, I have a lot of terrain but it's all packed up in boxes because I'm selling my house

>>96286217
may i suggest cope cages, various drones including four wheeled ones, and dirt bikes?

>>96286499
Sorry, forgot to mention it's a 2022 project, none of this stuff was really a thing in the early stages. The war didn't really turn soulless until late in the Battle of Bakhmut. I want motor bike assault units very badly but no one makes models for them, and that stuff didn't start appearing really until early 2025 anyways

I forgot how much I love this model, it is so of its time

>>96286515
gonna need civilian rape basements then

>>96286217
cool shit, anon, would play with them

>>96286463
>It's from Empress
Keen, thanks anon.

I like my wargames to have easily identifiable unit types like a classic real time strategy game. I feel that's why I forgot 90s and 2000s chunky wargames because they are essentially low polygon and convey a tonne of info quickly. Some new wargames just have my head scratching or distracted by all the detailed android not clear purposes

The Zeo Genesis pledge manager is now live. I wasn't sure whether I wanted any add on units other than what comes in the starter box. I decided to wait and see whether I enjoy playing one side or the other more first.

I just hope the company and the game stay alive long enough that I can get the extra boxes.

For small wargames is it better to be a completionist or to be patient?

>>96245657
Whats the issue? Do they make their figures in India now?

>>96287812
There's a guy that posts his army here, that is a British regiment with Indian auxiliaries.

>>96287812
One of the K47 anons finds a way to shoehorn pajeets into all his armies

>>96287950
>>96287862
My Bolt Action force is 8th Army, so I've got a mix of British, Rhodesian, and Indian troops, and I'll be adding Aussies and New Zealanders soon. An anon over in /hwg/ had an absolute meltdown over this, so I decided to make my K47 Armoured Infantry be from one of the Indian divisions. People on this website find this highly upsetting for some reason

>>96288013
The poop camo on the mech is taking it a bit far.

>>96288013
Best part is that if he hasn't said anything, my Indians would've just been one infantry section plus a light mortar team and a Boys AT rifle team, but in response to his freakout I decided to make them way more visible.

Anyway, I hope new K47 gives the Germans a Maus tank that uses those anti gravity repulsors to make a 188 ton tank actually practical.

>>96288026
It's based on the Caunter camo scheme used by the 8th Army in North Africa

>>96288026
Kek lost it, my wife asked what I am laughing at (I can't admit I browse 4chan)

>>96288013
>People on this website find this highly upsetting for some reason
Unfortunately for you Ramjeet, Indian hatred seems to be becoming quite mainstream

>>96288099
Good thing I have no actual emotional investment in anything east of the Mississippi.

>>96288099
*racism

>>96288013
No one likes indians.

>get to kill Indians in the game
I don't see the issue

>>96289120
Like to killing a roach, even killing htem is interactuating with them, I prefer to kill orcs wich don't exist in real life.

I'm adding another section of Indians just for all you guys <3 before long I'll have a full platoon.

>>96289184
That's not very competitive. If your opponent have equipped his troops with gasmasks and soapwater cannons you are toast.

>>96289240
>Saaaar, not the soap saaaar, do not use the power wash ahhhhhhhh!

>>96289184
Do poles instead.
>hussar wings on power armor

>>96288013
>An anon over in /hwg/ had an absolute meltdown over this
I am bored, got a link for that?

>>96285899
I think some have manacles being slaves.

>>96288905
You can only be racist to humans. Indians don't qualify.

shouldnt this all be in hwg anyway

>>96289376
Tell it to the one htan started it.

>>96289184
Do you have to roll to check if each Indian unit is delayed by the curry shits pre-battle?

>>96289376
Technically no, K47 is /awg/. So are depictions of Indian's being competent.

If anything you should be perturbed by african front still being a thing in 1947.

>>96289276
I've toyed with it, but need to research how to make the poles in the 8th Army visually distinct from everyone else, besides adding a bear to one of my 25 pounder crews.

>>96289408
It's not, per canon, and the 8th Army switched off the tactical shorts uniform I use during the invasion of Italy, but the uniform I use is still appropriate to the Burma campaign against the Japanese in the late war and the fictional Middle East campaign against the Soviets that's ongoing in 1947.

My use of Caunter on mechs is ahistorical since it was out of use by 1943 and mechs weren't introduced until 1946, but I don't mind because it's striking.

>>96288099
The most succesful CCP -psyop to date.

>>96289389
If you roll 1s they run off the board because they saw a white woman in that direction

>>96289659
That's the rule for the US' Colored units. Meanwhile, the Krauts have to roll random casualties before each game for the syphilis.

>>96289528
You don't need a Chinese psyop to develop hatred, you just need to meet one in person

>>96289962
Those are actors hired by the CCP psyop

>>96289691
And italian artillery needs to roll for hit twice in case they forgot the gabagool

>>96289962
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>>96289962
+5 social credit, agent Huan

Posting on /pol/ should lock you out of posting on other boards.

>>96291434
That sounds sensible.

>>96290008
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>>96291167
Uh oh fartjeet is mad

>>96283206
thanks anon, was exactly what we were after! got a paperback copy in the mail

any of you know where I can find the expansions for blkout? I've looked everywhere I can think of also the doomed pls and thanks

New to wargames, and they're not particularly common in my country.

A friend of mine and I play on occasion, trying to explore boardgames and wargames lately.

We've played battle tech, both traditional and alphastrike. Traditional was fun, but a bit too slow and micromanagey for us, and removing rules felt a bit too disingenuous. We liked the customizability, and the ability to proxy things though. Will get back to alphastrike.

Played warhammer 10e (albeit on tabletop simulator) and it was fun, but the distance measuring thing gets pretty finicky, and line of sight gets annoying.

Alphastrike felt kinda the same as warhammer, but didn't feel as "polished" as either battletech or warhammer.

My friend played dreadfleet and says its super fun, but I've never seen it, and it's impossible to find here.

Any suggestions for some wargames we might enjoy?

Also, big ups to gook moot for reducing the post timer from 900 to 120 seconds. Long waits put me off 4chins a while ago

>>96292131
Try mantics dead zone maybe.

>>96292131
space weirdos or sword weirdos
no measuring, just movement sticks
LoS is simple
mini-agnostic

>>96292131
Mech combat stuff with some customization but less chunky than Battletech could be Heavy Gear or CAV depending on if you want more towards powered suits or walking tanks. The mecha monday general will have other suggestions, there's a bunch of options I'm not familiar with.

>>96283156
NTA but the fantasy critters and light magic system are in the rulebook itself, in their own section. You can also use the Ronin fantasy stuff with little issue.

>>96284559
Where are you shipping to?

>>96242597 (OP)
>Name one unsupported game that lives rent free in your head

Warmahordes. 1st and 2nd edition. I wish there was a trove of them and Iron Kingdoms. That used to be such a great game. 2e had better rules but I still liked 1e’s system where if you hit a critical system of a warjack you’d roll on a table to see how it would go apeshit.

>>96291979
No worries. Keep me posted if you give the campaign a try.

>>96293946
I am surprised there isn't one for 2nd still, given books+cards can be found in places like ebay... but given that 3e's repository wiki was decommissioned and the new group still haven't published its' replacement, it shouldn't be surprising.
Kinda frustrating that most of the database stuff was either on old PP forums, that were perma-deleted, or on said wiki+blog site that got shut down.

>>96242837
the skinny strongman armor on the left is stupid, i prefer the clunkiness on the left. helms too.

>>96294213
oop

>>96294240
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>>96293990
A lot of the 3e stuff is on disgruntled wargamer wiki, cant tell if theyre still working on it or its been abandoned though.

>>96264680
Iirc that's the entire point of Fairy Meat.

Printed up an Automated Carrier for my K47 Indians

>>96294727
Make it a train

>>96294971
I've got another on the printer, guess i could rope them together.

>>96295345
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>>96293260
>the fantasy critters and light magic system are in the En Garde rulebook
Too bad. I really love that system, I would have loved if there were expansions floating around.
Same with Black Ops, these are IMHO the best systems for their respective genre

>>96257732
I guess everything. It has to look like what the name says it should be.