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>>96238419>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025
>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta
>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned
>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com
>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com
>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas
>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com
>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com
>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com
>TQHave you made fun of someone for running mana rocks today?
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>>96243748 (OP)>Have you made fun of someone for running mana rocks today?No. Not planning on it, either. Just don't cry when I board wipe or remove them. My Acidic Slime is coming down whether you like it or not.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96243767And yet the best art of the card
>played three games with three different decks
>decks got to do the thing every game
>won _____one game
Feels good, man.
>>96243835I like the white hand fine and the bat one is cute.
>>96243899hands are ugly as is the bat one
I want to build the most resiliant bullshit stax deck to fuck over all the combo/ramp players out there. I got a bunch of the cards and I think Esper is the way to go. What commanders should I look at? Thinking about going with the classic Chromium.
>>96243893Rhysticfag hates this card.
>>96243921But what does trinket mage think?
>>96243911you could also go for an actual classic that works like Sen Triplets
>>96243930you mean trinket FAG? lmao gottem
>>96243893If I see this card I'll ripping it up, since 99999/100000 it's a proxy being used by a miserable faggot
>>96243911Grand arbiter is THE stax commander
>>96243952Uh oh we got a stinky draw 10 cards per turn baby here.
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>>96243952But what if this is the proxy?
>>96243974doesn't matter, proxyfags have no sense of restraint and they inevitably devolve into some kind of retarded cedh pod
>>96243959>mfw see conqueror's flail and think it's just an equipment bro that doesn't want his higher cost beatsticks countered when they come to play but when I see Arbiter I instantly want to kill that player on sight because I know he's going to do something really fucking annoying to either me as a player or my goal as a deckThey're the same fucking card basically but one becomes public enemy 1 to me the instant I see it in play.i think it's autism
If I see this card I'll ripping it up, since 99999/100000 it's a proxy being used by a miserable faggot
>play izzet>never have creatures, and won't block if I do because they are all combo pieces>take 30 minutes to just pass the turn>play gruul>have big stompy bois by turn 5 guaranteed, close out the game by moving to combat on turn 6The disparity between color combos is huge.
>>96243748 (OP)>Have you made fun of someone for running mana rocks today?No, because I am not a youtuber with a huge ego
>>96243996Grand Arbiter (Augustin IV) != Grand Abolisher
>>96243995sounds to me like you are too poor to compete with proxyfags. it's okay to be poor tho, you just demonstrate how flawed a game is where you can shit all over other players just because you have more money. proxyfags really hold up a mirror to all the people who think this dogshit game is well designed in any way.
>>96243911Black really doesn't add much to stax unless you're doing graveyard hate
Remember to always bully out paypigs from your pod
>>96244050>you just demonstrate how flawed a game is where you can shit all over other players just because you have more money.oh no, anon realized mtg is a pay to win game from the very beginning...
anyway!
>>96244103it's almost like you forgot that there for a second, good think proxyfags will eternally remind you
>>96243936>Sen TripletsI don't want something so overt that it will get me immediately targeted at the table. I'm already going to be playing Esper.
>>96244118>assuming i can't proxy backif you want to play cedh just say it
i'm perfectly fine proxying full power because that's what proxying inevitably leads to anyway lmao
>>96244122>sen triplets will make me a target!>but this winter orb will fly under the radar 100%, trustlmao
What would be a good/fun commander to run a bunch of bounce spells and things like Cowardice? I was thinking Vivi but I doubt he sticks to the table
Proxyfags are the reason the LGS charges money for basics
>>96244143wotc selling product to walmart didn't exactly help the lgs
Chains isn't even a pay to win card, it's just pay to be mildly annoying for a turn or two at most before it's removed
>>96244143Mine doesn't. Sucks to have a sucky shop.
>>96244125>i'm perfectly fine proxying full power because that's what proxying inevitably leads to anyway lmaobut that's wrong
the majority of retards playing high power decks are paypigs
>>96244122alela, zur, aminatou, halfdane/the other dane, friggin' silas renn/rebbec
>>96244143I was forced to buy some basics when the lgs owner saw me pinching them from the land station, what has this world come to brehs
>>96244135niv mizzet unironically
>>96244166at least proxy full art snow-covereds then
>>96244162Most people playing high power decks with "real cards" are using Chinese bootlegs
>>96244162don't look now but cedh is just about the most welcoming to proxies for obvious reasons
>the more casual and uncompetitive you are the more likely you buy real product, why do you think FF sold well lol
>>96244125Most retarded argument.
Player spending is a bell curve
>Low power
Buys one precon
>Midwit power
Buys real cards insisting that he's playing at the "fair" power level despite maxing out his budget for every upgrade. It's okay he's Rhystic and TOR because he needs to wait a few months to upgrade the rest of his deck.
>High power
Proxies
>>96244205Bait or retardation?
>>96244162Kinda depends. High power casual decks are definitely paypig territory whereas cedh is a very pro proxy scene
>>96244215Well players always try to play at maximum power and never exercise any self-control, so yes.
If you're poor or new, you're low power.
If you're invested by spending your paycheck every month on the game, you're mid power.
If you proxy, you're high power.
>>96244201proxyfags in full denial itt kek
>>96244225astute observation king
>>96244248I care not for the whimperings of the poor.
>>96244248what debate?
proxyfags can proxy all they want, no one's stopping them
it's them kvetching over being called poor (true) and lacking restraint (also true) that's the issue, because where's the lie?
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you guys are proxying wrong
>>96244256>>96244254Wow you both need real hobbies
>>96244261>replying to very blatant trolling
>>96244143I have never seen an lgs charge for basics unless they are full arts or old borders and even most old borders ones were free until a few years ago
>>96244261>proxyfag telling people to do "real" things>oh NOW "authenticity" matters when it suits themAbsolute cinema
>>96244143Oh no, imagine having to shell out five whole cents for a basic! The humanity!!!
>the paypig poorfag autist seething about getting owned by proxychads is back
I'm grateful every day that my life is not this miserable lmao
The LGS hasn't caught onto my scheme where I proxy basics then sell them to the LGS at massive profit!!!
>>96244225>buy expensive cards>its midpower>proxy expensive crads>its high powerHmm
>>96244304>btfo so badly he can't give a (You)The passive aggressiveness is a sign of low T and below average discretionary spending lol
>fake cardboard vs real cardboard argument
>again
I HATE RERUNS
>>96244315To the proxyfag, even something as benign as shocklands is "expensive"
cleaning up my ashling deck, and im making some cuts to swap in better gas. got a quick question:
the mana generated by Jaya, which can only be used for Isntant/Sorc, keeps that restriction even when banked with Ashling and floating around for like 4 turns later, right?
>>96244256This is the truth nuke they will fight to the grave against.
>>96244335yes, if the mana has a restriction, keeping it around doesn't cause it to lose that restriction. including if it changed colors (horizon stone).
>paypig poorfag can't keep himself from replying to every post making fun of him
that shit must really get to him...
>>96244350good to know. was wanting to be sure, since i remembered jeweled lotus had some shenanigans that made it playable in legacy, where they cleaned up the mana it generated
>>96244352I don't even know who you are talking about, but not replying directly just makes you look like the actual butthurt retardfag
>>96244352>>96244357>it's actually trueholy shit lmao
>>96244315Yes! Exactly!
>Rhystic Study (real)Mid-power fun magic
>Rhystic Study (proxied)cEDH tryhard shit
>>96244352>>96244370I wfh so btfo out of butthurt proxyfag while working is fine with me, in a way i get paid for doing so
Here's a (You), and dont worry thats real and not a proxy hahahha
>>96244372Post decklist so we can laugh at you
>>96243748 (OP)Traded this SL drop with my friend for a City of Traitors.
>paypig poorfag literally can't stop himself
I sometimes wonder if he even owns a single deck, he never posted one before
I will keep buying real cards and I will keep making slop proxies.
>>96244434>real cardsand by that, I hope you mean old frame
>>96244396https://archidekt.com/decks/15015346/my_real_deck_no_proxies
This is 100% of my budget, notice how honest it is.
>>96244445>salt sum: 63.36if that was a proxy deck, I would reply to your mother in her sleep
>>96244432we outed shao jun as a no-deck, wouldn't sdurprise me if this guy is too
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>guy counters my far seek t2
>damn, I needed red
>’mana is a personal problem lol’
>6 turns later, he’s about to win
>strip mine 4 of his lands
>wait for him to tap out on my endstep
>pyroblast urza
>’wow, you are a faggot’
>>96244467There's 4 different dudes that run her, gotta nail the rest as well
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>>96244327We can argue about basic lands again if you prefer.
>>96244327We can do anti-mill next if you'd like
>make a deck for fun, casual games
>no boardwipes, no spot removal, just defensive counterspells, and protection
If you are the kind of player who tries to put the entire enemy boardstates into the graveyard/exile every game, maybe you aren't as casual as you think you are.
any advice for my casual mono red burn/spells list? I'm trying to keep it low bracket, and it obviously has the main problems every red deck has with every draw being impulse or looting.
>https://archidekt.com/decks/12641943
>>96244327It will happen over and over again because proxyfags are so desperate to validate their nonsense
>>96244494>>96244500Argue about MLD again at least that one is funny sometimes
>>96244483>multiple strip mines isn't MLD!He is right, you are a faggot.
>>96244483You already know what your response should have been
>>96244513>I NEED bloodmoon to beat precons!It not funny anymore
>>96244327proxies are a necessary evil in a board game where you have to pay hundreds of dollars for board game pieces made out cardboard produced on an industrial scale by a multi-million dollar company
>>96244494more liked based lands
>>96244500milling yourself is just extra draw
milling everyone is just another combo tactic
NEXT
>>96244513Everybody knows gavin is a pussy and is too spineless to just put the MLD he hates as GCs, especially when aura shards somehow made it there
>>96244513Blood Moon is not MLD because the nonbasics still supply red mana. If you disagree you're wrong
>all of this just because someone doesn't want to play against Chains of Meph
Drawing cards is one hell of a drug.
>>96243952Oh im sorry faggot cant speak talian? Fabrizi cappacino niga?
>>96244537Unfortunately, your opinion doesn't matter, and it was declared by name.
>>96243952and that single 1 is a poster in our thread
>>96244563VOLARE
OH~OH
DOPPIO ATTACCO
OH~OH~OH~OH!
>>96244513QUICK IS STASIS MLD YOU HAVE 1 SECOND TO REPLY
>>96244598Since winter orb is, yes.
>>96244570Oh hey there I am
>>96244563 didn't even see
>>96243911I vote JUND. If you dint actually play Smokestacks it doesn't count
>>96244617Someday I'm going to own a tabernacle.
>>96244285What the fuck are you talking about i very clearly aimed my statement at people on both sides who attacked some guy who mentioned the discussion. You all need hobbies!
>>96244678Backside art is mediocre and you're gonna play her flipped 95% of the time.
>>96244448Double the cringe, double the fun
>>9624470410 proxies maybe.
Unless you rip one in half to show the blue core I won't believe you.
>>96244612I didn't mean you, but I guess that means we have TWO authentic Chains players in our thread. Statistical anomaly, but this deck looks cool as fuck, tell me about how it plays.
>>96244708My proxies work just fine
>>96244612Interesting. Never thought of Jund for that. What's some of your wincons?
>>96244709The token/stacks package protects the ground and lets you get a backup gameplan of just fucking attack.
Disruptors like chains/3ball go a log way in stalling out to either do the tokens plan or find 1 of 2 combos, foodchain or chatterfang soultender.
It doesnt have a main point of failure outside of being focused if the combo players don't respect each other and let me keep them in line and just has the jund resilience built in. I want each card to have multiple outs in the deck, it's only as powerful as the pod is
>>96244713>i have 10>they're proxiesThat's a contradiction in terms.
>>96244763>I want to own a tabernacle not to use itThis is a thread about using cards
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>>96244700>Double tits, double cringe, double fun, got dubs
>>96244768>Not use itWhere was that said?
Retard.
>>96244768You can't use a card if you don't own it.
>ancient Chinese proverb
>>96244793>you wouldn't download a card
Honestly a good generic removal on a stick that can help certain colors removing specific things that they aren't good at.
>>96244862>8 costI mean, I understand what your saying in a pinch, but 8 mana isn't exactly a good cost for a removal.
>>96244887Your mana rock?
>>96244598no the mana isnt being denied if they never tap out ;)
Are bounce lands worth it? They feel kind of jank.
>>96245000Depends on your brew. Landfall deck would love to have more triggers.
proxies should be 100% allowed
all cards over 5 dollars should be banned
there I fixed literally everything
>>96245000theyre ok in landfall decks but otherwise they are generally not worth it
>>96244862this is just a shittier Meteor Golem
>too much P/T to be cheat reanimated by Terra/Alesha>Too expensive to hard cast>Gives the opponent a consolation prizeUnless you're playing this for free off of omniscience/Ugin.affinity, just play the golem.
>>96245000in budget lists where being behind a turn, yeah. Landfall fucking adores them as well. And there's more than a few combo lists that have lines that need them.
archelos/wandering minstrel/landtax type cards say hello
>>96245009So... The expensive cards you want to proxy are banned?
>>96245017I proxy 10 cent cards
>>96245009>Cards over 5 dollars are banned >Everything that is good ends up becoming more wanted, which drives up the price and causes them to be banned, repeat several times, causing the original cards to no longer be banned, which drives up the prices causing them to be banned>Have to check daily if your deck is legal or not>This is fixed
>>96245036>he doesn't make a new deck every week
>>96245009penny dreadful edh soon
>>96245036>Go to an event>Almost no game actually finishes because decks are disqualified mid game for no longer being legal
>>96245009>proxies should be 100% allowedThey are, WOTC doesn't care so long as you aren't using them in a sanctioned event.
>>96245060>WotC only care when they should care
I haven't played Magic in about a year
Lorebro, did any of the praetor actually survive at the end?
>>96245104Urabrask had all his limbs cut off but intentionally left alive.
Vorinclex had his head cut off, but can regenerate from that so he's ambiguous, the other three are 100% dead
>>96245104WOTC never 'really' kills off characters. They'll be some weird time warping shenanigans that bring them all back if the writers think its worthwhile.
>>96245104Death is merely a setback for MtG characters.
>>96245012There's a lot of cases where the cityscape leveler is better
>>96245146Yawg and Urza are still fully, completely dead.
>Oko, Even Worse
>GUR
>Legendary Creature - Elf Rogue
>Nonbasic lands are Elks (they are 3/3 green Elk creatures and lose all other types and abilities)
> 3/3
>>96245183I want red to lean harder into price of progress effects, rather than land destruction with extra steps.
>>96245183technically I think this is only red green.
>Jin Gitaxias, Somehow Returned
>3BBBB
>Legendary Creature - Cephalid Rogue
>Cumulative Upkeep - Target opponent gains control of target nontoken permanent that you control
>At the beginning of each opponent’s upkeep, gain control of target permanent that player control
>2/8
I can't wait for more MLD in precons.
>>96245292Landfall players are going to have some words with Gavin.
Anyone here play flubs the fool? what are the combos?
>>96245319https://commanderspellbook.com/search/?q=card%3D%22Flubs%2C%20the%20Fool%22
First spoon-feed is free
>nooo you can't just play a 400€ bracket 3 gruul deck, I only have one deck for that bracket and I hate it
>no problem bro, I'll just switch on 4 or 5 cards and it's a €200 bracket 2 deck
>thanks bro that's cool with me, cool deck btw. anyways, I open with fetch into shock, mana crypt and leyline of anticipation
>>96245000Absolutely worth it in any deck that plays channel lands or MDFCs.
>>96245373>Mana CryptOh no...
>>96245373>mana crypttee hee
>>96245373>This was the strongest b2 opener he could think of
>>96243974 If I'm understanding this correctly, if you play this and then cast Windfall you just all discard your hand and draw zero cards and mill that many instead? Seems annoying as fuck lol
>>96244256This whole
>if you proxy you're poor!non-argument is going beyond cringe and into genuine derangement territory, autismo.
>>96245420>responding this late>with cope
>>96245428Sorry I'm not chronically online like you are Mr Moneybags.
>>96245438So you are just admitting you're poor?
Glad that's settled.
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>>96244494i fucking hate paying for restrooms in europe, fuck you holland
>>96245473Better than having to go to the counter of some store to tell the cute goth girl behind the counter you need the key to take a massive shit like I have to do in America.
>we may never get reprints or proper back stories for these niggas
I'm sad.
>>96245491Intet and Vorosh fucked because they are GAY
Oros is a RACIST CHUD
Teneb just wants to grill (farm)
Numot is very autistic
>>96245491Shouldn't this be
>When this enters or attacksKinda cringe ngl
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>>9624541399% of the time if somebody is wheeling in commander its to troll or kill you.
I do in fact proxy because I can not afford to buy all the staples in all colors.
I'll still beat any deck you can throw at me.
Problem?
>>96245575>I'll win when I cheatRiveting.
>>96245596>pretending to have money is cheating>winning while not having money is cheatingwhat do you figure is the way to formulate this that isn't "get out of my country club"
>>96245641>>pretending to have money is cheatingYes. Deal with it.
>>96245156I mainly use the card in jaxis where
>I can copy it to give it haste>I have lots of natural haste enablers for the real one to attack the turn it appears>I can discard it to jaxis/red draw and discard spells to buy it back laterCard is a beast in that deck, one of my only outs to a painful enchantment in mono red. If you've got a couple additional synergies I think cityscape is worth it.
Refine bracket 3 into a fun format
>>96245012>Meteor GolemJust a shittier Spine of Ish Sah
>>96245667I use it my in Jaxis deck too. Also in The jolly balloon man. If you can give it haste in a deck where you are cloning it repeatedly it's suddenly becomes very worth it
Path to Enlightenment
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Instant
Exile target creature. Its controller draws a card.
>>96245479white doesn't need a third sword, that'd be like saying they should print a new pyroblast
>32 historic cards in the 99
Worth running?
>>96245764Would be worth running with half that many desu
>>96245843She's not coming back
>commander game with randos at the LGS
>everyone revealing their commanders pre game
>guy very proudly shows off his sephiroth commander
>guy across from him audibly groans
>few other people around giggle, me included
>witness all hope and joy drain away from his face
>he plays silently for the rest of the session
>first to die, gets utterly bodied by a colorless players blightsteel
>packs up and leaves
Maybe there's hope for the commander community still...
Sword of Ugin and Bolas
Sword of Gayness and Dragons
>>96245854it's been 14 years....
>>96245859Cringe post that never happened
>>96245859>guy who says he's new sit down at our pod>whips out sephiroth>know exactly what will happen because I play Gut aristocrats>both seph and me down to <10 life>kill the other two players with a birds of paradise because they pissed me off all game with their retarded "hurr only flyers can attack" shit>pass to seph, who proceeds to durdle a bit so he sac two creatures to kill me>the other two players didn't even comment on his win and left the store for a smoke after I killed themhe will learn soon enough that nobody really cares about what aristocrats do, it's always the same
>>96246005aristocrats is the worst deck theme to play against, its so fucking boring to watch. its worse than izzet storm durdling, which at least has the upside of hearing the player utter deranged shit like "I'm going to copy this spell fourteen times"
>Commander game with randos at the LGS
>Sign up for a game, someone at the counter forgot to pay for their basics so the store owner shoots them
>Another guy with raggedy clothes shows up and hastily pulls out a Plains with the words "JUZAM DJINN" hastily scribbled on it in marker. The store owner kicks him out because he's clearly homeless and too poor to play MtG
>Third guy shows up, after lamenting his mulligan not being very good, he plays a Demolition Field on his first turn, and is immediately vaporized by the store owner's laser eyes for using MLD
>>96246039I often wonder how people manage to type in 4chan.org/tg, filter for /edh/, then click on the correct EDH thread and make a successful post, when all they wanted was to go to reddit
Will the darkness crystal stop me drawing cards when massacre girl mercs something?
>>96246056yes, its a replacement effect. it also stops the OG massacre girl from popping off
>>96246060>>96246065>>96246086Brutal. Traded for it cus it seemed neat. If it didn't it'd be a easy include...
So this commander Really came and went, huh?
>>96246106>mardu commander>flash in the panYou didn't expect anything else, did you? There's only one playable mardu commander.
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>>96246106>came and wentjust like what i did to ur mom last night.
>>96246106He's fucking boring. Mardu can be so much better
Alesha (Death), Alesha (Fate), or Terra (Hope)?
>>96246106He's probably still the most popular precon commander at my LGS, doesn't seem like a flash in the pan to me yet
>>96246179I don't believe you. I've seen games where 2-3 players are playing Y'shtola.
>>96246106Why would I play him over someone like Krenko or Anim Pakal?
For some draw that people won't ever let you have by just letting it hit you
>>96246106>create a giant army with krenko or something who cares>full swing with everything>sac all tokens to whatever free outlet to mass drain the table after combatSeems kinda neato senpai
>>96246229Alternate future:
>Krenko>Win because Krenko
>>96246243You're not wrong, but man I'm just so bored of token spam just for the sake of it. I wanna do something different than just "create 50+ tokens okay everything attacks"
>>96246203>I don't want you to draw so I'll take 20 damageok
Which of these, if any, would you run in a Jenova deck?
>>96246250>20 damage>from a single 1/1 token.
>sup, can I play with your pod? I have this saga de-
no
>>96246258Glissa bros? Our response?
>>96246187There's like 3 guys with Yshotlas and 5 guys with Zurgo at my LGS. I don't think I've seen such a popular precon at my LGS since the LCI dinos one.
>>96246258As someone with Narci sagas, I completely understand. Even swapping out a bunch for the new FF cards I still understand
>>96246256>equipment in jenovaonly two come to mind, I don't know their names rn:
>living weapon one that gives a creature infect>sac creature for 3 mana
>>96246268why did she go from 50 cents to 15 dollars bros... I wanted to build the cute chocolate enchantress...
What deck archetypes would you rank highest for fun for you vs highest rank for fun for table?
>>96246256In my Jenova deck I run
Swiftfoot
Lightning greaves
Hand of vexna
Black blade reforged
Gigantiform(aura but it fits the same purpose)
out of your list I think runed stalactite is interesting, loxodon Warhammer is a maybe, bonehoard is a maybe as well but I don't know
The rest seem not worth.
>>96246292Theft is max fun for me.
Group hug is the most fun for the table, despite it killing them in the end.
>>96244166>.25c for basicsanon go to a different store, should be .10c MAX
I'm glad more people are talking about Jenova, she immediately stood out to me as interesting but I feel people sleep on her hard. The deck has a ton of potential and you draw a ton of cards
>>96246337>Play Daemogoth>Give it +1/+1 and turn it into a mutant>Sac it>Draw 12 cards>discard all of themWhere did I go wrong...
>>96246249I'm tired too anon. I'm tired too. We need more Ghostly Prisons in the wild to discourage this but it's a card I see people constantly cutting "because it won't stop the hypothetical voltron player"
>>96246337dunno about high brackets, but she is incredibly OP in lower ones. I thought I can just remove her bullshit out of turn so she doesn't draw a million cards, but she ALWAYS has it (protection)
>quickly build a janky wall deck with pic related
>end up wining half the games of the night in my pod
Bros, I think I might be on to something. Commander damage did it, too.
>>96246106It's a solid bracket 3 commander that dropped in a set full of pushed dragon nonsense which does much better being in the 99 of a fair Isshin deck. There's nothing to talk about, it's perfectly acceptable for what it's built for. What else do you want?
>draft up ojer axonil burn deck
>looking at the deck laid out it just doesn't look fun to play
I still want to do something burn/aggro though. Pic rel feels more fun, and more interactive with the opponents boardstate too.
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>>96246365>Draw 12 cards>discard all of themDamn you gave me an idea for a "discard group slug" kinda deck but this dude seems to be the only one out there
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>>96246456I run her, she's fuckin awesome with big "pay X mana for X damage" cards with a damage doubler out (since it quadruples the damage). If game start running long I'll drop a Star of Extinction and the game usually ends the turn after that. Keep in mind she turns into kill on sight VERY fucking quickly. A neat combo with her is playing a burn spell with Neheb, the Eternal out in the first main phase, then getting like 15+ mana to dump into an X damage spell after combat
>>96246481Yeah she seems dope for shit like that. I like the idea of actually killing my opponents shit with bolts/etc and getting free damage around the table off of that, and still swinging in with the boys like it's BO1 arena.
>>96246456>>96246481It seems like she's open to a lot of shenanigans.
>>96246116That's not the new Combo Queen of Mardu, though
>>96246164Terra. Wider reanimation pool. fills the grave herself, don't have to risk what you bring back in an attack, and a less restrictive cost to reanimate. Flying is also much better than First Strike, and she's cuter.
That being said, both Alesha should be in the 99 of Terra anyway
>>96245135>mfw all the named angels but Sigarda have been dead for years and so is Gideon and they are like 99% not coming back
>>96246655Liesa is still around. She and Liesa are both back to protecting Innistrad, just like they used to before Avacyn was created and ruined everything.
Sigarda, Bruna, Gisela, and Liesa were natural Angels, and each had their role on Innistrad. Liesa just got lucky that her deal with the Buried One allowed her to survive Avacyn's bullshit, and not be present for Emrakul to warp. Liesa is supposed to be the strongest of the 4 Archangels, just weakened from being reborn after Avacyn's bullshit
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Uh oh stinky
>have liliana DG and death trigger board out
>put counter #9 on her
>end of turn "Hey just so everyone is aware, Liliana can ult next turn." and remind them of what that means verbatim
>some grumbles of acknowledgment
>player 1, 2, 3 don't attack liliana and just build their boards their turn
>4 does attack but he doesn't have enough creatures to get past my death touch blockers
>my turn: "Okay well, I'm going to use Liliana's ultimate. Anyone able to do anything? Lightning bolt, anything?"
>no one can
>tell table they now have to sacrifice every kind of permanent except one and-
>before I can finish talking everyone except player 4: "WTF ALL PERMANENTS?! ENCHANTMENTS AND ARTIFACTS TOO?!"
>explain yes all permanents, even lands but -
>"WTF EVEN LANDS TOO?! WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT!"
>tell them yes, even lands, but finally am able to say that it won't matter since unless they can all keep their creatures alive I'll ping them all to death with my various death triggers
>"WTF bro you didn't explain it was all permanents we just thought creatures! And you didn't say you were going to win if we didn't kill that thing!"
Not the first time it's happened with my group where I explain a big threat with the clear implication it should be focused. I don't know how to explain more clearly that I am potentially going to win next turn short of drawing them a diagram.
>>96246694Another no doubt terrible take form king of the British retards that I won't watch.
No, I most definitely hate people with no self control who over power their decks
>>96246694I can hate two things.
>>96246694Quick delete this before Mr. Monopoly sees it when he wakes up in 4 hours on the mattress he keeps on the floor and goes back to spending all day calling people he knows nothing about poor on the internet while larping that he isn't a neet who blows his neetbux on cardboard.
>>96246698This is your cue to smirk like your favorite animu villain, push up your glasses and say, "Well, now you'll be ready for it next time."
>>96244256>lacking restraintas opposed to a cashcow who needs to do a little song and dance each set so some card flipper gets richer?
>>96246708I don't know how you don't realize how assblasted you are making posts like this.
Only statements that hit truths can inspire such butthurt
>>96246719I don't know how you don't realize how assblasted you are replying to posts like this.
Only statements that hit truths can inspire such butthurt
Mana Spell
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Enchantment
T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
>>96246734I don't like colorless enchantments
They feel even less appropriate than colored artifacts
>>96246734I approve of it because artifacts are such a pushed permanent type at this point that anything that takes away its monopolies is only a good thing.
Invasion of Rabiah
3
Battle
T: Add 1 mana of any color to your mana pool.
>>96246750If it's a siege I guess the backside is called 1001 Nights and it... Hell I dunno makes all creatures djinn illusions and all lands deserts. Or maybe it makes a magic subgame.
>>96246701>>96246694>>96246704something about a blind chicken being broken twice a day
what the fuck is wrong with the britbongs audio mixing? this is like the overexaggarated, larger than life sound of the voices of radio broadcasters, but 10 times worse when he is in off. more like UNpleasent Kenobi haha
>>96246436youre just playing Simic with all the protection from white, on top of blues counters, get over yourself
>>96246855they're so used to hearing the audio equivalent of a steaming pile of shit from the accents they hear everyday they have no idea what good sound is supposed to be like
https://moxfield.com/decks/gf91ZciyLEqkic-Q3zSwag
thots on this list?
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when do people here finally realize that commander isnt the only format, and by far not the first?
Green isnt that great in other format, but the slower nature and Singleton restriction plays directly into Greens strengths
5 Color legendaries need to be busted, because running 5 colors is an actual drawback in real formats, and not an advantage
designing cards directly for commander is a horribly rancid idea and will continue to be this formats downfall, and has always went against what makes this shitshow multiplayer so fun
>>96246968Grave Troll is shit commander but busted elsewhere.
>>96246980as are most aggro 1/1s in red, it works both ways
>>96246980you saying Golgari Grave Troll - mill 6 is shit in commander?
Holy retard
>>96246968>5 colors is a drawback in real formatsYou mean the formats with fetches legal, trivializing colorfixing because any fetch turns into any dual? Even Standard decks are able to run domain piles thanks to the abundance of untapped duals, it's just not worthwhile because control as an archetype has been dead in the water for years so decks are entirely focused on the first 3 turns.
>>96246990Dredge 6 in a 60 cards deck with four copies is different than dredging in a 99 cards deck with singleton.
I won a game with the store loaner deck, 20 bucks azorius flyers lmao, get bent
>>96246997number crunching like this is fucking stupid
"cheap and easy value is soooo shit in commander :("
i recommend connive looping the grave troll, it feels so good
>>96246106>do thing draw cardno shit eh
>>96247068Ah yes connive a mechanic that doesn't exist in green.
It's a crime that something wacky like this is stuck behind RL.
>>96247088>Golgari Grave Troll>Golgari>lets just value it as a mono green piece that it isjust shut the fuck up at this point
>>96247106Any besides 1.
Tutors only care about the GC listing, and number in deck. And unless you can control where the card your grabbing is, or you have so much redundancy that exile 13 doesn't matter, it's the single worst tutor we have.
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Runo-player here, two rules questions
>if I copy an attacking Conquerors Galleon, do I create two conquerors footholds?
>if I copy a Vesuvan Drifter that is a copy of a Hullbreaker Horror, what copies do I create, how many, and do they change at end of turn?
>>96247106banger with the new goyf
>>96247148No
1 copy of hullbreaker, the original drifter changes back at end of turn.
>>96247148>no, you only get the one. The flip trigger for galleon exiles then flips, fizzling the token >you get 2 Hullbreaker with the special copy text, which can either stay as they are, or change next combat like the vesuvan can
>>96247106So does warp allow you to cast card if it's exiled this way?
I assume not
>>96247219Warp is like adventure you need to pay the warp cost and have it resolve to play from warp
>Casually making 20+ mana in your path
>>96247229i feel like this is a trap
20+ power for charge counters are no silly business
>>96247217This is wrong. The attacking token doesn't flip because galleon is an attack trigger. It will exile itself when jt next attacks
When you copy a copied card you only retain the copy characteristics. So you'd get a hullbreaker with flying. It wouldn't change back at end of turn.
>>96246292Lantern is fun for me
Irenicus draw to death is fun for opponents
>>96247229will run into the same issue as super-proliferated astral cornucopia that the game is pretty much over by the time you get there
>>96247308Dude, stationing is so much easier than proliferating. Imagine you could just tap any creature you control and proliferate equal to its power.
>>96247313this is at least somewhat true in commander. in 1v1, the opportunity cost of not attacking when you can is huge
but the old
>block, in responce tap for charge counterswill probably do wonders if you dont have haste anyways
>>96247318you can only station on sorcery speed
>>96247323i keep forgetting that
yeah its even worse in commander. in 1v3, the opportunity cost of not blocking when you can is huge
>>96247330i mean at best you screw over the people with goad decks since MP1 you can station the crow tokens or whatever else goaded your actual creatures
>>96247236>>96247148So
>you get one token galleon that can’t turn into a foothold, and fizzles itself if it attacks>you get two Hullbreakers with flying, without the end of turn clauseIf I understand it correctly, the vesuvan end of turn clause is applied to that specific card instance, like a Giant Growth would be, and doesn’t get copied. The flying is added to the card text so to speak, and the card text informs the copy.
I did not expect the flying to stick around, that’s good to know.
>>96247229Triggering Macar every turn is fun
I run daring thief in Shorikai, that guy fucks.
>>96247406>still finding good Rogues i didnt know about yetthanks anon
>>96246698>can't play this Liliana in bracket 3 since it's MLDthe bracket system is retarded
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which one would be better/more fun for a Flash deck? i love playing on instant speed, and i feel like playing that top deck mini game in Errada will feel good, plus i never had an Azorius deck
Chromium on the other hand is a weird big ass dragon, and i love Esper
>>96247435>Not just searching for every Rogue that exists in ScryfallYou will never advance as a Magic player with others spoonfeeding you.
>>96247483With the two ladies as commander, you'll be able to have a flying subtheme as well, which is far more powerful than you think; most people aren't prepared for more than a few flyers, much less a deck of them. Flashing them in is super kino too.
>Strength in Numbers
>1GG
>Enchantment
>If a counter would be put on only one target creature you control, instead put a counter of that type on each creature that shares the same name as target creature.
Rate
>>96247488>still looking for reasons to nag and moan in an otherwise harmless and well-meaning reply i do scryfall and with 455 rogues in my colors, stuff can and will still be overlooked, missus infallible bitch
>>96247435No better feeling than players killing their own commanders after you kidnapped them
>>96247483The top deck mini game is fun in every game. Ramping to 7 in esper is less so.
Cards like Tidal Baracuda are great
>>96247507oh i now, im known to be the #01 Flying hater in my playgroup, because all these sluts keep playing commanders that fly
i unironically run Hurricane
still, i want all my deck to be playable at instant speed, the flying subtheme would be an afterthought
>>96247532more hares shit yawn
>>96247532make it for each creature on board and im in
>>96247570I think that probably already exists
>>96247549>Tidal Barracudethat one and picrel makes on realize how degenerate blues Creatures are, much more so creatures in Dimir. I've seen Aboleth Spawn absolutely ruin games on its own, because some some Simic player with valuebrain cant stop being the most retarded player at the table
>>96247552Heliod the warped dawn? Recur an archetype of imagination and cast it with flash for cheap
>>96247643>creature ability triggers>YOU may copy itSo what is the source of the ability for something like Firebrand Archer? Am I as a player somehow doing damage or is it still the Archer?
>EDHREC hasn't realized this goes in Wick decks yet
Yes-yes all for me me.
>>96247652i wanted to build him when he was spoiled, but figured he would be to easy and the strongest deck in our pod BY FAR
he is the same level of degenerate easy mode to pumbstomp and cheez out some easy wins as Xyris
how do I always have it against x spells that win the game on the spot. like crackle with power, torment of hailfire and such? our playgroup has devolved to non-combat wincons and I'm not in blue or white
>>96247697>Jundyou're fucked
target their stupid commanders and cross fingers
>>96247660it only copies the entering creature's ETB effect. So, something like Noxious Gearhulk's ETB destroy a permanent lets you destroy something, then the opponent gets to blow something up
>>96247680i packed one of these, and was looking for a home for it. What are you slapping this on in a Wick deck, other than a Rat Colony when you go to use Marrow-Gnawer
>>96247680this goes in every token deck ever period. it's freaking broken
>>96247709>What are you slapping this on in a Wick deck, other than a Rat Colony when you go to use Marrow-GnawerI think it's just a general purpose card to copy your more useful cards rather than just getting weak rat tokens. I think any time it's attached to a rat that's better than a token rat, you're happy.
>>96247717Eh. The fact it's a hard "first time" rather than being "whenever...this ability triggers only once per turn." does mean that in some narrow situations you aren't going to get as many tokens as you wanted. Say you have a trigger that makes tokens, and a spell that would make lots of tokens, you don't get a choice for which one triggers Moonlit Meditation
>>96247697Infinite mana sink? How about Prossh Food Chain?
>>96247697what other anon said and turbo out your ruric thar, they're not getting that shit legally by dropping lands to have a massive X most likely
>>96247738even getting a single copy of ANY permanent is enough and something we have never had before for this low cmc
>>96247738fair enough. I can definitely see it being stupid if you've got it slapped onto a Lord Skitter's Butcher and you use MG to make like 5 copies of it. then each one gets you a token (or 4 tokens, and a round of menace).
>>96247643The flash really makes this one worth it
>great fun you’re having with that hostage taker, mind if I join in?Getting free stuff later and stopping stuff from being cast is a nice bonus too
>>96247805the cherry on top, that makes it obscene is the Ward 2
That shit is why i laugh at people pretending Tempo doesnt exist in commander
Question for my fellow tribal autists (neurotypicals need not reply). If a card can change types (transform, eternalize, meld, etc) what tribe do you put them in?
Would lone rider be allowed in a human/knight deck, or would it be a party foul since it flips? What about in an eldrazi or horror deck?
>>96246708Wow anon definitely isnt mad about being called poor lol
>>96246734Do you understand what an enchantment is? How are you tapping it for mana? That makes no sense. There's a reason like 2 enchantments in the game can be tapped
>>96246865This lol the entire deck is probably protection and interaction and he just plays draw go dumping mana into counters or interaction when needed. Riveting stuff.
>>96247097This card is 5 dollars anon. The only thing its stuck behind is your empty wallet
>>96247680Of all the token decks I've seen thos probably fits wick the least
>>96247851That depends on the narrative and tone. It’s a great fit for a horror deck, but if your knight deck leans into chivalry and nobility, it might be discordant.
My sea monster deck has space for sailors but avoids land lubbers.
>>96247756>a single copy of ANY permanentRead the card again anon.
>>96247917Like I said, you're going to be making token rats in Wick. Instead you can be copying more useful rats and still getting rat ETBs
See
>>96247758>I can definitely see it being stupid if you've got it slapped onto a Lord Skitter's Butcher and you use MG to make like 5 copies of it. then each one gets you a token (or 4 tokens, and a round of menace).
>>96245034No you don't. All proxies are of expensive cards. No one has ever proxied a 50 cent rare.
>>96247851I like my Rogues, but i am not afraid to run some Pirates or other creatures that are "rogueish" by their effect or nature. And i think the flipped card in your example still fits the bill of a knight - be it a randomly cursed one
>>96245292This is shit. Even against my lands deck this is a slight set back at best. If your silver bullet MLD cannot even take out the lands deck, then it likely isn't very good.
>>96247851I think it's a flavor fail that the transformed creature didn't keep any of the creature types of the originals
Why isint the flipped one "eldrazi horror knight" or "human eldrazi horror"?
>>96247987Nice try but no one's going to believe your propaganda
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>>96245292>>96245309>>96245318>>96247987this is from the Land sacrifice precon, the precon that specifically wants to eat its own lands. MLD is merely a tool to be abused by the Land decks anyway. The Land count in the deck is the bottleneck, and a way to kill them all and recur them is what they want, choking out the opponents in the process
MLD is not "anti-green" tech, it is very much and in all sense of its purposes "pro-green"
>>96247927>>96247982Thanks for the answers. I am mostly looking at embalm/eternalize for my sidisi zombie deck currently. I think it works, since sidisi fights with both zombies and non zombies. So she would in theory ally with both versions of the card. But it would still be 'zombie tribal' since the embalm/enternalize cards do say the word zombie on their text.
Nowadays I see more landfall players blowing up their lands more than anyone else.
>>96248064Ok bro. I cast sylvan reclamation or will of the sultai. Also I have an azusa and crucible of worlds.
>>96248117yeah, because wotc made it so trivial to bring em back with every other card. this is also why single land destruction does nothing against utility lands anymore. there needs to be cheap instant non-basic exiling like yesterday
>>96248197It does something against non-green decks.
>>96248197They just need to do away with landfall as a mechanic, it has always been cancer
>>96248227just like how they wanted to do away with annihilator?
>>96248117Its literally always been the go to move for lands decks thats why zuran orb is so insane. Free upside land saccing. No better way to get a bunch of triggers than recurring your landbase
>>96245135>WOTC never 'really' kills off charactersI would love if that were the case because there's nothing I want more than to see Memnarch make his triumphant return.
Sadly, that's not the case. He and Elesh Norn are both totally fucked and if anyone else steps in to try and take over as any sort of Phyrexian Patriarch, it's gonna be an unrelated 3rd party who got too big for their britches.
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Maybe this is a retarded question to ask. I've recently been getting back into magic after not really playing it for a decade. I always used to play with friends and that's where I've mostly been playing since getting back into it a few months ago, however I don't get nearly the same amount of opportunities to play with them as we're all a lot busier out of uni.
I've noticed a lot of casual commander events at various stores on the wotc site. Are these events where you're being matched with people or is it just that the store has allotted that date/time to be for people who want to play commander?
>>96246655>and so is Gideon Does Heliod have a replacement yet?
I could see them bullshitting a way for him to take up the mantle just as an excuse to bring him back as a commander again.
>>96248334They are usually just times for people to come down and play commander. You can always ask for the store owner to help find you an open group or just ask around.
There are some events that involving matching with others but they are few and far between, like the 2-headed-giant stuff that just happened where it was 2v2
Edge of Eternities is the best set since Brothers War
>>96248430Tarkir Dragonstorm was betta
>>96248459>>96248430Both are entirely mid. BRO was fun. EOE and Tarkir pretty much the same. Counters and bad mechanics
Well, its been 12 months since taking on a year long challenge of playing decks outside of my comfort zone.
I have learned so much, like combo can be fun. Temur isn't super boring and most importantly lmao fuck that shit I am going back to playing 3 color stompy decks or craterhoof decks.
I like green.
>>96248540And BRO had what exactly?
Tokens and bad mechanics
>>96248069>MLD is not "anti-green" tech, it is very much and in all sense of its purposes "pro-green"this
my Bop of paradise, land of war elves and elvish mistakes don't give a fuck about how many lands I have.
>>96248430Was Wilds of Eldraine before or after Brothers War?
>>96248430they're both good sets
EOE
+artifact set
+kavu
+spaceships are neat
-should've had a rakdos enchantment to enable instant speed stationing
-the planets are cowardly designed
BRO
+artifact set
+urza can meld
+transformers cards and schematics cards
-powerstones blow
>>96248585Powerstones are very underrated. Prototype is good and unearth is timeless. Try to post like a man and not a resentful fueled foid
>>96248615Quite possibly the worst pros/cons list I've ever seen wow please dont ever post your opinions again
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>>96248430>since Brothers War
>>96248620>demands to post like a man>meanwhile did nothing but ragebait like a sissy to get the conversation going go milk your tits over Brothers War Smut
>>96248636like I give a shit about your opinion about my opinion
>>96248663I think you replied to the wrong post i just like BRO its my favorite packs to open
>>96245859>commander game with randos at the LGS>everyone revealing their commanders pre game>guy very proudly shows off his Admiral Becket Brass commander>guy across from him audibly groans>few other people around giggle, me included>witness all hope and joy drain away from his face>he plays silently for the rest of the session>first to die, gets utterly bodied by a colorless players blightsteel>packs up and leavesMaybe there's hope for the commander community still...
>>96245859>commander game with randos at the LGS>everyone revealing their commanders pre game>guy very proudly shows off his penis >guy across from him audibly groans>few other people around giggle, me included>witness all hope and joy drain away from his face>he plays silently for the rest of the session>first to die, gets utterly bodied by a colorless players blightsteel>packs up and leavesMaybe there's hope for the commander community still...
That'll be 32 dollars
Plus tip
>>96248641I appreciated Brothers War for the bonus sheet artifacts since I was just starting out around that time, managed to pull two Mox Ambers, even
>>96248615The planets power levels are all over the place. The blue and green ones justify coming in tapped, but none of the others IMO.
>>96245859>commander game with randos at the LGS>everyone revealing their commanders pre game>guy very proudly shows off his Aetherdrift commander >guy across from him audibly groans>few other people around giggle, me included>witness all hope and joy drain away from his face>he plays silently for the rest of the session>first to die, gets utterly bodied by a colorless players blightsteel>packs up and leavesMaybe there's hope for the commander community still...
>>96248803It's only going to get more expensive too, since WOTC has no interest in reprinting any UB stuff.
>>96248803I gotta be honest, that card kinda looks like shit, I play battlecruiser mostly so the first 3 turns are not very explosive.
>>96248851It's a standard card.
>>96248852oh
OH!
>ub in standarddamn maybe I shouldn't have come back.
>>96248863Spider Man set is also Standard. As is Avatar.
>>96248852a standard card that will go down in price once it rotates
>>96248870what's the general consensus on that?
>>96248863>>96248870I think spiderman is gonna be funny, people turned out in droves for final fantasy but it fit the aesthetic better than half the recent in universe sets, spiderman is about as far as you could possibly get from the aesthetic so I think people are going to reject it
Avavar will sadly probably do alright by that logic, but I don't think it will be the massive hit final fantasy was
>>96248885It fucking sucks.
>>96248890The idea people play magic for a fantasy aesthetic is stupid. People play for the gameplay.
And of course avatar will flop. It's a 20 year old mediocre show that has not been relevant in like 13 years.
>>96248900>The idea people play magic for a fantasy aesthetic is stupid.I personally started playing because I saw someone with an elesh norn deck and recognized the art from ads. The art made me feel something and the more I played mtg the more I found art that really captivated me.
>People play for the gameplay.The gameplay is good when it's good and fucking terrible when it's not. MTG would not survive on gameplay alone.
There's also sunk cost that keeps people around, clump that in with good will if you want. The point being there is a web of interconnected reasons why MTG is MTG and pulling at too many of those threads makes people take breaks at very least if not quit.
>>96248430TDM, BLB, MOM, and DSK were all better sets mechanically. Maybe OTJ too.
I just speant $380 on basic lands, am I retarded?
>>96248834They are going to reprint UB stuff
>>96248969those look cool. I think you might be kinda retarded but I have enough unglued and unhinged lands to fill out 14 decks so I would be a huge hypocrite telling you that its not worth it.
>>96248969Extremely retarded
>>96248977plz reprint as universes within, I refuse to play UB cards.
>>96248969You're only retarded if you play with people who don't recognize the flex.
>>96249010That's ok, the card pool is so massive I really don't need them.
>>96248969>$50 on deck>$300 on basic landsOnly based individuals will understand.
>>96249016b..b..b..based!
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>>96249016I wish I could say my deck was $50 when I spent that alone on a rarity bump for my $2 commander.
>>96248890my LGS is already basically sold out of spider-man stock in advance, so you better hope thats an outlier and not the norm.
>>96249016>$25 on Aluren >$300 on basics>$25 on the rest of the deck
>>96248969Those lands? Yeah, extremely fucking retarded. You could've bought cool basics instead of the ones nobody can see. But maybe that's the point, right mr. cheater?
I made the mistake of explaining my commander is yawgs will in the command zone and I became archenemy
Maybe I do need to add back in more of the bullshit combos I took out so I can actually survive a 1v3
>>96249049>ones nobody can seeskill issue
>>96248969I thought basic lands were free?
>>96249073they are, just take em from other people's decks
>>96248806this goes hard in magda but anywhere else it's absolute dogshit
>>96249049What part of this is cheating? Youre very weird anon
>>96248803why would I play this
>>96248969there is a lot worse you could be spending your money on
like these
at $15 a pop
>>96249089he is projecting
>>96249049They are maybe a touch hard to see but they arent any worse than lets say the innastrad full arts
>>96249118More like Gary Basedman, am I right?
JK it looks like shit
>>96249118secret lair lands should have come in sets of 10.
There have been a few decent ones over the years and having non-matching basics should be a capital offense.
>>96249056>oh I know, arms racing will solve the issue!low iq take
>>96249164I just proxy them. Only an utter autist would care.
>>96249182can you proxy them at a high quality?
>>96249125sir, this is an edh thread
>>96249186MPC makes them impossible to tell from standard cards in a sleeve.
>>96249182A guy at my old LGS bought a printer that could print foil lands out and he would set it up with his laptop and print all sorts of shit on lands
good guy, they didnt last super long but man there was nothing quite like custom foil full art lands
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>>96248969I wouldn't even spend $30 on basics.
>>96249206I wouldn't even spend 5 cents on basics.
>dont worry its a casual deck
>plays 5 color good stuff slop
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>>96248977Was this revealed to you in a dream? Some of the 40k precon cards are 40+ dollars at this point.
>>96249049>can't remember gamestates or too much a pussy to ask opponent how much mana they have up. Okay retard. Nice bait.
>>96249118Those are horrendous, why is the pink guy sexually pleasuring himself by rubbing his nipple.
>>96249164But they can arbitrarialy drive up the price of the lands to hold value and sell 10 times the sets. Why would they every do this, even though they should.
>>96249206I am generally anti-proxy, so I must live by my code of ethics.
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>>96249193>MPCoh dang they even have some custom versions
I know what I'm doing for my next deck
>>96249256Who asked for this? Someone doing home renos?
>>96249223>got full art foil variants of my fallout caesar deck back in Feb for a reasonable price. >Trying to do the same for another fallout deck>all the prices have tripledI know the supply for Fallout was insanely high, but god damn, the window to buy shit at discount after release come and go so fast.
>>96248804Wizards bribed me to say "Brothers War was great and nothing went wrong at Magic Con 2022 to have made me think otherwise or receive compensation"
>>96249222literally me
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-07-24-mana-mastery/
>>96249272I like looking at pantones personally
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>>96249049Here, now even you can see which lands are which.
>>96249325>Marlboro mountain
>>96249325>>96249357>I tap my newports for blue
>>96248969this is why everyone hate paypigs
>>96249325>all these similiar valueswhy are you so evil, anon
>>96249383Why do you hate me for blinging out my commander deck?
>>96249415higher cost deck means higher power.
>>96249423My lands are worth just about the price of my deck with the rarity bumps. I have 3 game changers, I am bracket 3.
>>96249276How Rudy doing nowadays anyways?
>>96249468not happening in this thread, self-humiliation-kun.
>>96249415proxyfags hate others for being rich
>>96249415if you pay more sellers think more people will dragging everyone up
>>96249474Suicide due to economy crumbling
>>96249423poornigger cope
I finished another short story about gay dragons today!
>>96246698God, FUCK those innistrad full arts. Every single person I played against was using them when those sets dropped in tri-colored decks alongside proxied duals and I wanted to strangle someone whenever I had to ask what mana they had open.
>>96249493Cost is a balancing factor
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The new shocks look like fucking ass
someone needs to check in on the art department, I think there is something seriously wrong.
I'm newer to MTG, are there any precons able to keep up and do okay against randos at LGS's? What are some of the best precons? I'm not good at deck building yet.
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>>96249617Commander is split into 5 brackets. New precons are at a minimum bracket 2. So just look for bracket 2 games at your LGS or tell people you are using a precon.
>>96249617the ixalan precons are really good
>>96249638oh damn are there more of these?
>>96249617The 4c gay kings precon was pretty dope. I keep it unmodified and you wouldn't believe how often I win with it.
>>96249663https://www.reddit.com/r/mpcproxies/comments/1m02sx0/inhale_the_mana/
>>96249661Hard to find at a decent price. I saw the dinosaur one going for 200 bux
>>96248969who am I to judge? I'm playing 50€ mountains.
>>96249638WotC would see this ad and charge you 29,99 for
>>96249617I'll build you a functional deck
whats your budget, whats your favorite colors or strategy? You are going to get way more bang for your buck this way than buying a precon.
>>96248806I like the white planet, copying stuff is yummy
>get called out for playing an illegal combo
is this too hardcore for bracket 3? I assembled this by accident in a Golgari Food deck.
>>96249617>>96249721I second this anon, not only will you get a more personal deck, you will learn the valuable lesson of buying singles. Also, you get to pick your actual commander, instead of being an out of box product. I have watched so many retards get into this and burn money buying packs chasing cards. Buying singles is the best thing you can learn to do.
>>96249758This is why you don't use retarded brackets
>>96249703What 50 euro mountains are you running?
>>96249758I had like 3 infinite combos in my golgari tokens deck, this was one of them. Just run it through an online bracket checker first, it'll point out any 2 card infinites you might not have known about.
>>96249793And this is why brackets are shit. They expect you to do a bunch of research before playing.
>>96249799It’s why EDH is shit, most of the game is talking about what is appropriate for the game and proxies only exasperate this problem.
>>96249807>le farewell bogeymannever played. never in anyones hand when it matters.
>>96249840wait till people learn about Austere Command
>>96249799instead of bracket autist have to read the room, if you see everyone play jank you cannot just bring Kenrith, the Returned King featuring Muldrotha and Jodah, the Unifier just "i like the alt arts" and not expect get gangbanged by the entire table
>>96249764>>96249799>they should allow my 2 card combo>thoracle?! go back to cedh you tryhardtruly midwit hours
>>96249884>comparing I win combo to a billion rats with summoning sickness who cant blocktruly midwit hours.
>>96249906>you have a turn to live so it's ok!i'm so glad the vast majority will follow brackets and that midwits like you will be left behind kekw
>>96249919>not having itsounds like a skill issue
>>96249927>can't accept that brackets will be the de facto rule of the landcry more bwahahaha
>>96249919just jumping into this discussion, but if 3 whole players cant deal with a massive board before the player untaps, they deserve to eat shit. a Fuckan boardwipe check isnt the same as a counterspell check
>>96249937to be fair that combo also puts your deck in your hands
it doesnt take a genius to figure out a win from there
>>96249937>me discarding abdel turn 1>turn 2 sol ring + animate dead = infinite tokens>you have 1 turn to live so it's okretards everywhere lol
>>96249952>me discarding abdel turn 1how exactly?
>>96249952is your hobby brainstorming dreamland combos?
>>962499678 cards in hand
discard to hand size
thanks for admitting you have no games
>>96249952>yeah uuhm lemme compare my super realistic scenario where i have the payoff, the Rampu and the setup all in my sleeves to prove my point, vs a 6 mana combo someone stumbled upon in the middle of a gameslit your wrists
>>96249971so you didnt drop a land on turn one?
how are you paying for animate dead off of two colorless mana?
>>96246056Another ruling because I am apparently a retard that can't read when throwing cards together. When a creature dies due to -1/-1 with these two, I'll draw zero cards off massacre girl but will be able to rez with Gisa, correct?
>>96249968>because discarding abdel turn 1, and animate dead turn 3 (let's not even include sol ring) is absolutely magical christmasland
>>96249997now its getting pathetic.
>>96249987"exile it instead" means it doesn't die. "die/dies" is shorthand for "goes to the graveyard from the battlefield." same as the darkness crystal, gisa stops things from "dying" with a replacement effect, so you will get no death triggers from opponents' creatures.
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>>96249871>B-But >muh First Sliver
Is it possible to build a fun deck where the commander is not the monolith win con without resorting to either combo or good_stuff.deck?
How does one brew such a deck?
>>96250028Thought so, appreciate it. Easy cut for virtue of persistence.
Infinites that require 3 or more cards is fine right, like using this or other storm cards with shit like displacer kitten and 2 cost 0 artifacts to end the game is fine
>>96249983>get btfo>uhhh ur patheitclol
>Opponent plays eggman deck
>It's an eggs deck
>>96250068>opponent plays robotnik deck>it's a robots deck
>>96249937"Man I had no way of knowing it was gonna go infinite.
Anyways I'm going to station Evendo and Cast Ygra from my command zone; but before that I'm gonna Demonic Tutor Academy Manufactor.
Hey where's everyone going?"
>>96250004thoracle player here, thanks for vouching for me so that i can claim that it's just magical christmasland that i got oracle and consulation in my opening hand
>>96250037yeah, that's the primary way I build decks.
I play a lot of these shit dragons and most of the time I end up making theme decks or get inspiration from a 60 card deck.
My oros deck right now is inspired by an interaction I saw in a game and went all in on lifegain synergies. Oros himself can gain a lot of life if given lifelink but the deck functions without him entirely. It's basically a highlander deck with a big dumb dragon that sits in the command zone unless I need him.
Since your deck will not have the consistency of a utility commander, it's smart to build of a strategy that has a lot of redundancy. I had no problems finding lifegain synergies for example or you could just tutor like a degenerate.
>>96250112>Tfw someone pithing needled my yuriko but my draw for turn was thoracle and I had tainted pact in my hand
>>96250112change your sleeves and shuffle your deck proper, sticky fingers
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>>96249983Are you actually motherfucking serious????
>>96249952>>96250137I might be going blind but I don't see dark ritual anywhere in this recipe.
>>96249871What's this retarded example? This deck sounds fucking terrible rofl
>>96250037You build a deck where commander is your utility. But it requires you to run a good_stuff.deck, which is the opposite of what you are asking for.
>>96250152>there's a flaw in the combo listed>please forget that i didn't know i can discard to hand size turn 1kek
>>96250152>oh no he didn't mention the most well known black ramp in the games history>that means everything he's ever said is wrong and i'm rightYour friends must love hanging out with you
>>96250162Not that anon, but your Disneyland turn 2 combo just got upgraded to Disney World.
>>96250152This batch of cookies I made didn't have cinnamon in the recipe yet I added it anyway cuz I thought it'd help. And it did.
>>96250178sorry but abdel is a bona fide 2 card combo and none of this disneyland shit is gonna allow you to use it and not get shit on by your pod lmao
>>96250162>theres a flaw>please stop pointing it outno
>adding more cards to a magical christmas land opening wewlad
>>96250196>oh no it's turn 3 infinite tokens instead of turn 2 using only 2 lands abdel and animate dead>this is totally legit gavin please let it be legalfound the undercover abdel player that didn't know he could discard to hand size KEK
>>96249876That combo can be done at instant speed, in response to the Rift. Did you REALLY think that was the gotcha you thought it was?
>>96250182the original discussion was not about if it was possible it was about where the line for infinite creatures should be in lower tier decks
to follow your analogy, you blindly threw cinnamon all over the kitchen assuming cookies were in there somewhere.
>>96247889What's wrong with that?
>>96249871None of these cards sound synergistic or are anything crazy on their own im confused
>>96250212>anon cant count and making a big deal about just finding out about discarding to handsizeman to be young again.
>>96250224those cards give self value once they hit the field, if everyone is playing jank dont play FIRE cards
>>96250068https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4mPkze9AEs&list=RDy4mPkze9AEs&start_radio=1
>>96250214And it worked cuz these things taste great
>>96250224those cards have repotutation by themselfs, you have to learn to wait for another flashy stuff on field before casting shit like sheoldred
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>Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain and cheerios
>goal is to cast so many things that draw you so many cards to deck yourself with Labman/Jace out
Seems dumb as hell and super durdly but man it's so stupid I need to try it
>>96250047People that have melties about combos don't care if it's 2 card or 7 card.
People get mad at my kefnet + scroll rack + timewalk spell combo. Or isochron scepter + narsets reversal + timewalk spell.
>>96250388Personally, I only dislike them if someone tutors for the cards ASAP to slam them down by turn 4/5. If you naturally draw them? Hell yeah bro gg let's go again
>>96250037Fun? My chimera deck. Winning? No.
Say what you will about the RC but whenever they banned a card I was playing I was more relieved than pissed.
I think they did a pretty good job overall, until they cucked out. It's really amazing to see how someone like sheldon could both have a vision for the format and yet be so blind to how shit the new management was.
>>96249799>They expect you to do a bunch of research before playing.>reading an article is too much work, work I shouldn't have to do, the system is bad
>discard reanimate target t1 due to hand sizs (no land drop)
>t2 player sol ring off of my SINGULAR land and somehow have another pip
>anon is retarded for pointing out it doesnt work as written
Take the L guys you mistyped your combo :D
>>96249148They do have the same problem as the innistrad black & white arts, but at least those cost 50 cents per foil and not 6 bucks. The part that really kills me is that you could've gotten the color foil phyrexian lands which look even better than the oil-slicked ones for a pittance, they're like a dollar per foil.
>>96250246I have a jank deck and it still provides value and does things cause im not a worm
>>96250213If you cannot deal with infinite 1/1 non-haste tokens then it is genuinely a skill issue.
2 card combos end the game. They don't wait a turn cycle.
>Want to build mono blue proliferate
>Know friend group insists that poison kills you at 20 because your life total is doubled
>order lots of cards for a deck I am building
>1-2 packages never arrived or arrived 2 months later
>every time
I'm just proxying from now on solely because it takes too long to get the real thing. I am sick of having to sit on a deck idea for 3 months or just rebuy from another guy due to shit sellers.
>>96250539Why not build stun counters, so you don't have to deal with that? Or are you just trying to be as toxic as possible?
>inb4 of course, I'm playing U
>>96250569I always proxy instead of ordering
And if I like the card im proxying Ill keep my eye out for it in trade binders and such. There are so many cards that I want to test that I end up not putting in my decks that it makes more sense to do it this way
>>96250536>Implying I don't have a sac outlet to turn those tokens into lifelossI never had to, you where doomed from the start.
>>96250580Hey that might be fun with Lulu as commander
>>96250470exactly, its not a flashy card, if you play know cards people will remove on sight
>>96246436Jenara is based
>>96250539>We want to rule 0 that you need 20 poison>Well I want to follow the official rules, need full consensus to not play by the official rules, and I don't agree so, tough titties.That simple
>>96250458>so assblasted he can't give a (You)take the L first for not knowing you can discard to hand size turn 1 buddy boy
>>96250607I have thought about out making Lulu myself, but I'm having such a hard time picking a mono-blue deck for my mono-colored deck challenge...
>>96250617>he doesnt have friends>he thinks that would fly
>>96250607just throw in the single Prologue to Phyresis
no other poison sources
Izzet player banned from his game because i forced him to resolve and keep track of his "everytime i cast a spell i lone this creature with prowess combo" he missed lethal
>>96250631I have tried that a few times before, got booted from every table that I refused to bow. It's simply not happening. Thank goodness my playgroup has it at the far more reasonable 15 poison counters.
>>96250631If sticking to the official rules is a bridge too fair for your friends, they're retards and you shouldn't be friends with them
>>96250628I did know that though, Ive been doing that trick with Iona before she got banned
I was just giving you enough rope to hang yourself with and its funny seeing your legs thrash about
>>96250653"I lone this creature with prowess combo" is gibberish, anon
>peak color combination
>peak ability
>peak balancing
>peak artwork
Somewhere in the greater area of Seattle, in a dank WotC basement, a designer and an art director, shackled to rusty chains, snap their bonds in a frenzied bid for freedom, to huddle over a flickering candle to craft a SOVL-charged card that’s pure kino.
Wish this happend more often.
>>96250664>uh i knew that alreadysure sure uh huh
anyways have fun defending abdel in low power pods lmao
>>96250628I just read through it and thought you all looked embarrassing because you objectively made a mistake in your post ^.^ 4chan stopped me from tagging all involved
>>96250665*clone
my keyboard is dying and i refuse to change it myself when they forced me to request one a change to HR
>>96250656>got booted from every tablehe said with friends, not with whatever passes for a carbon based lifeform at an LGS
>>96250681Based balloon man enjoyer
>>96250657House rules have been a thing in games going back to the dawn of time
hell edh started as a house rule format, and it's even enshrined in the rules.
>>96250681>>peak color combination>inferior mardu and jeskai
>>96250610This, I've been playing her a combo voltron/angel tribal deck and it fairs pretty well. That is until game 2 when everyone focuses me and the combo fag gets to win every single game after because I'm "the bigger threat"
>>96250755>and it's even enshrined in the rules.Yes, rule 0, which requires all players to agree.
Don't agree, its that simple. If you get bulled into bullshit "rules" your own fault and you are a dipshit.
I want to play a Werewolf deck, but it seems all locked to Grul, is there any 3 color legendary that can serve as a pilot?
>>96250757>3 coloredThat's okay. We all learn with training wheels at first.
>>96250778Pick your favorite Naya or Jund stompy commander
>>96250767>which requires all players to agree.we house ruled that to a simple majority and Jim's vote counts for 2 because we are playing at his place.
>>96250597Like at this point it isn't even cost. I order shit and it just never comes. It used to not happen a lot but I don't know what the fuck happened with tcgplayer. It is constant now. And my LGS never has 99% of singles in stock
>>96250631I threatened to quit the game over a friend groups rule change. They dropped it.
>>96250790I like Marath, Rith and Karthas.
I should put my Karthas: Jund Theme Deck back together.
I hope we never go back to Alara desu.
>>96250830fortune favors the bold
>>96250778>>96250832There's only one worth a damn. Yes, werewolves ARE transformers, everything that flips into something else is. Also, proxy him, he costs like $200 and that's far too much for a meme.
>>96250681I do appreciate any boros commander that isn't just equipment slop, especially a junji ito reference like this.
>>96250845You can only play this if you bring the toy. Otherwise fuck off.
>>96250818I will never use TCGPlayer again. My how they have fallen. If I absolutely cannot find a card that I have been testing at an LGS, I'll pay the extra cash to get it from card kingdom but they are spotty with random trash rares and don't even try with foils.
>>96250805>the guy who owns the play area gets an extra vote>we are totally ok with being one upped like that while expecting a fair gaming experienceholy
>>96250842Werewolves may transform but they arent "Transformers (R)"
>>96250849I never intended to flip him, no toy needed. Also, his backside is ass, not even worth looking at.
>>96250861Look up the rules, yes they are.
>>96250569>order from china>simple overview of all cards in stock in either a google spreadsheet or on a simple store website with zero ads>cards shipped within days in peak mint condition>arrive within 10 days worldwide with tracking>zero lost shipments>elder god tier packaging. never ever damaged cards>playable freebie cardshow do non-asians compete?
>>96250861I'm so sorry it sucks to be wrong
>>96250854IDK sounds like you have never played with friends. This is totally normal and has been since we were playing halo on the original xbox.
>autistically constraining your closed playgroup to official rules meant to govern the unwashed massesIf my friends wanted to start adding house rules I'd be down. Instead we mostly just start making self imposed challenge decks, but I could see us messing with the rules in the future.
I hear 30 life is objectively a better starting life total than 40...
>>96250845Remember when people thought this was as bad as UB slop was going to get
>>96250881>Maro confirmed thisbased shitposting AI of made up facts.
>>96250881@grok is this real?
>>96250881>AI slop responseCome on now
Aura of Dominion is up to 6 dollars. I told you faggots.
>>96250895I love it when anons double down on being wrong, it's funny as fuck
>>96250916What decks is that for? Some token combo?
>the foil is also 5 bucksWeird
>>96250932Naw, I rather keep laughing at you as you mald and seethe in your wrongness.
>>96250943Nvm scryfall just hasnt updated foil prices
>>96250890no one's denying that brackets are meant for randoms and rule zero is meant for your friends
but a real friend won't abuse the fact that he owns the place just to one up you in a children's card game and maybe it's you who needs to reassess
>>96250943infinite proliferates with kilo, the aura, and cryptic trilobite/crystalline crawler/pentad prism/gemstone array
>>96250966All that means is that a motion can pass without Jim, 3-1 or if Jim and one other person want to try something we give it a shot.
It's more about respecting the fact that he let's us play at his nice house instead of one of our dingy apartments and as a tie breaker.
It really seems like you have never played with a tight group of friends. Things just aren't that rigid and its not constantly some Machiavellian power struggle.
That's all I am willing to say about the matter, if I'm an outlier so be it but I could see how
>>96250539 could easily happen and how it wouldn't really be that big of a deal.
If i add the two cheaps vamps to the blod rights precon that allow the infinite life burn, is it tier 3 or considered 4?
>>96250926>ixalan god lands are transformers(R)
>>96251051that would be a tribal deck which is an auto bracket one. same as women looking left tribal or chair tribal.
>>96251022>part of a 3 card comboI sometimes forget how FOTM orientated players outside of my circle are. Damn son. Just wait it will be chain of smog all over again.
>>96250832i see marath and rith as generic color enablers, but karthas seems like expensive do nothing
>>96250926I love how nobody at Hasbro told Maro to shut the fuck up because Transformers dont transform but convert. otherwise they would lose the trademark rights.
>>96251092hasbro wouldn't dare because they know that mtg is pretty much the only thing keeping the company alive
>>96250867Show me the rule anon!
>>96250881You too! The card says transformers R, not transformers (which isnt a thing in the context of magic, go to scryfall and look up transformer) and his ability references the transformers toys.
>>96251084The line between stompy and generic can be pretty thin.
I liked playing mono green stompy in modern before mh3 nuked my already pretty middling deck into dust. I play those three commanders similarly to how I played that deck. Less so for Jund because its probably too "The Rock" for stompy but whatever.
>what's your favorite artifact?
For me it's Phyrexian Altar.
>cornerstone in many combos
>makes mana
>triggers leave the battlefield abilities
>prevents creatures from being stolen
>brought back by Sun Titan
>>96251161>what's your favorite artifact?Liquimetal Torque
I always pack more than my fair share of artifact and enchantment removal and ever since this puppy was printed I feel way less bad about it.
>>96251092Hasbro BEGGED maro to please please please put transformers into MTG. Have you seen their finance reports?
>>96251161Ratchet Bomb, niggas always fuckin' round with tokens
>brought back by Sun Titanhellyeah
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>>96251161Of course I forgot pic.
>>96251185please read out loud to the group how the flipping of optimus prime is worded.
>>96251197What happened with that set, last I checked theres a lot of expensive cards in it
was it a super limited print run?
When are they going to make searchable scry lands, sometimes I want to bottom my card, not bin it.
>>96251199i miss when pyrexia was actually hell and not zeh evil machine people
>>96251223give it a few years, they are already completely out of ideas so straight power creeping will come in time.
>>96251175>>96251175>Liquimetal TorqueWow. I never knew about that one. Must have mana rock for sure.
>>96251223They're finally (finally!) going to finish the tangolands and cycling duals. The scrylands will come after.
>>96251231wtf am I saying scrying isnt more powerful
uh but yeah they are out of ideas, give it two years
>>96251219Just had a lot of very powerful cards. Think it stopped getting printed not to long ago though
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>>96251161This bad boy right here. Twice now I've redirected a huge baddie to another player, and then cast Tainted Strike on it for a KO
>>96251105>>96250926Rule is here, love how you didn't respond to it, knowing I'm right.
>>96251274that's not a rule, that's chatgpt, which also didn't cite where in the rules it's from (because it isn't in the rules)
next give us wikipedia as a citation.
>>96251240>have to wait till 2027 for it to rotate out of standardDamn, I am starting to regret promising my wife I only buy cards as they rotate out of standard.
>>96251290holy retard, Batman
>>96251161Ichor Wellspring
>Unlike many other effects of this kind, Deadly Cover-Up allows its controller to exile a basic land.
hmmm
>>96251274Surely you can show me where in the comprehensive rules this is backed up right? A Tumblr post is not what the game runs off of
>>96251236Oh yeah, I forgor about tango lands.
>>96251306He's not retarded, he's a humiliation fetishist.
>>96251325Useless knowledge because:
1. The basic land needs to already be there somehow (Strip Mine?)
2. Your opponents need to actually be running basics when there's almost no incentive to do so
>>96251306oh, I see, it is actually maro's blog. my bad.
I trust maro about as much as chatgpt, but that's a separate issue.
>>96251352We play edh for fundamentally different reasons, it seems.
>>96251371On the contrary, I see the vision. However it relies a lot on your opponent setting it up.
>>96251388No, you see the vision and are discouraged. I see the vision and don't care if I lose trying to achieve it. That's how we are different.
>>96251353For silver border cards Maro is the actual final say
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>8 clues every time you flicker him
Okay this would get out of control very quickly. There's gotta be some super dumb shit you can pull off with him, yeah? Darksteel Juggernaut and Cranial Plating are the two that immediately jump out at me
Is there a good source for card names that are included in each set?
I find it easier to edit lists rather than scrolling through scryfall when looking at new sets.
>>96251429I'll pay the 1, thanks.
>>96251456Thankfully, my friends are *very* stupid with these things and would take the clue 100% of the time. Which is what I'm banking on
>>96251290>>96251337>>96251353Keep being wrong, me and my girl are having the laugh of our lives here.
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>>96251443You mean like this? Scryfall, put in the set, set to Checklist instead of Images
>>96251463not that you'll believe me, but I am a different person than who you were talking to earlier and did honestly think the blog screenshot was a chatgpt conversation (and think you were a moron for citing it).
>>96251476thank you for helping me
>>96251476I thought Haliya would be somewhat valuable
>>96251463I dont see "Transformers (®)" in this screenshot
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&extras=true&order=name&q=oracle%3ATransformer+%28game%3Apaper%29&unique=cards
I also dont see the word on any other card. I will continue following the rules and not Maros blogposts
>>96251585I realize it's in red, which has infinity ways of giving other shit haste, but itself not giving haste makes it DoA for me
>>96251598We don't know what you're asking.
>>96251585Yeah. Shame, Carnage is my favorite spidey villain
>>96251601More to the fucking point, they gave a legendary creature mayhem, so he basically can't be your commander.
>>96251621So true bestie there is no way to get a card to your hand from graveyard battlefield or command zone
>>96251631>use cards just to get something into your hand to get a discount on that cardsounds bad
>>96251161You don't need EVERY card you see, do you?
>>96251631>yeah bro, lemme just play Carnage from the command zone, send him to the graveyard, return him from grave to hand, then cast something that forces me to discard him so I can then cast him from grave for RBGreat plan anon.
>hey chat gpt here is a list of all the uncommons from this set
>which ones see the most play according to edhrec
Corrected top 20 most played cards from your list by EDHREC popularity:
Narset, Parter of Veils
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer
Dovin's Veto
Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted
Mayhem Devil
Narset, Parter of Veils
Augur of Bolas
Ashiok, Dream Render
Narset, Parter of Veils
Jaya, Venerated Firemage
Narset, Parter of Veils
Narset, Parter of Veils 10 more times
well I guess I will still have to look through the cards manually for the time being.
>>96251161Howling mine. Win or lose we're going fast
>>96251767I loved this card in my mono black deck. It was pretty high CMC I took a lot of extra turns.
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Thoughts on tickets/stickers in a Jenova or Ukkima deck?
>>96251640>t. winterschizo
>>96251814>stickersI was moderately curious about them because I (stupidly) thought they weren't *actually* stickers. Then I realized how awful that sounds
>>96251829You don't have to actually use stickers, you can just put a counter in your sleeve.
>>96251161boarwipes on sticks are absolute banger
he is also in flicker and recursion color
>>96251767I fucking hate this card. Played a low curve deck and didn't get a turn for 9 fucking turns.
>mfw no angel with 5 colors so I can run all the Innstrand sisters together
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>>96251161>nice life pool you've got there
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>>96251870>monkey paw curls
>>96251870>>96251899you can play a 5color enchantment as your commander
>>96251870Not what you wanted, I know. But still neat.
>>96251877>6 mana to maybe drop you to HALF your life total Lmao, lol even
>>96251814i laugh everytiem
>>96251814Why did they ever print this retarded shit?
>>96251928who knows, unfinity fails even as an un set
>>96251938wasnt this also the set with the acorn stamp fuckery?
>>96251928maro jumped the shark
>>96251958Do you run chatterfang's froggy cousin in that deck?
How does Magics art as a whole compare to its contemporaries?
>>96251988Even with the decline in Magic's art, it's still leagues better than the competition. I hope somebody can prove me wrong, Magic needs art competition to light a fire under its ass
>>96251638>>96251646>deck would clearly be centered around putting stuff in and getting it out of your graveyardSounds like exactly what the deck wants. My mistake for not realizing your decks are 99 lands and a commander. The bad rocky players here are very annoying
>>96251988Everything else is dumb anime shit or over the top metal stuff, both of which still somehow looks worse than MtG
>>96252051Sounds like shit.
>>96252051Anon, I know you think being contrarian is the peak of wit, but please tell me what the fucking point is of putting something in the command zone if you don't intend for it to be useful.
Even ignoring the fact he has a fucking mayhem cost, his ability itself fucking sucks. It's 1 ETB. They couldn't even make it when he enters OR attacks. He essentially wants to be blinked in the worst possible colors for blink. And then even suppose you do recur him some other way, you're getting a 3 mana or less creature with him that must attack and dies if it ever makes contact.
It's garbage. It's an effect you'd put on a particularly uninspiring uncommon.
>>96251988Yugioh archetypes blend together in a big ball of generic anime shit, early Yugioh had some neat occult vibes going on but they got dropped when the original author became less involved and creative control shifted to Konami. Digimon, Pokemon, One Piece, and Lorcana all have existing design blueprints to follow and are only ever as good or as bad as their source material allows them to be. Magic falls victim to it's regular cards looking relatively plain but there are so many good looking alt arts printed for everything these days that if you don't like one version of a card there's bound to be another one that looks better.
>>96252051>>96252160the biggest travesty is that Carnage is 4 power, so it can't even be reanimated by Terra. He'd be a fantastic include in the 99 for a revive chain, like how you can Terra>Karmic>Titan>*generic value creature* for only 2 mana and an unblocked swing.
>>96252160No clue what you're on about, simply saying there are ways to get a card back into your hand and a deck that is centered around graveyards will likely have some of these.
>>96252263>simply saying there are ways to get a card back into your hand and a deck that is centered around graveyards will likely have some of these.See
>>96251646
quick question: anyone have the Ghost-Spider cock edit handy? Wanted to show my buddy, but i can't remember how many threads ago it was posted
>>96252282>this is possible>ERMM WELL ITD BE BAD I NEED TO FEEL LIKE IVE WON PLEASE GIVE THIS TO ME!!!Take this W little fella ^.^
Why do Redditors think new players = better for the game? Do they really think Magic the Gathering would be better if every person on the planet played the game?
>>96251899Guess it could work
>>96251915That shit is so weird to me though. I guess I could fluff it as the will of God influencing them or something, I guess, but still
>>96251916That is neat. I have a pretty relaxed group I'm sure they wouldn't mind that being my commander, honestly, since I'm big on themes over function a lot of times and it would fit into the angels working together
>>96252402new players is just a dogwhistle for less white males
Why do retards think "I hope this card game fails and goes bankrupt"= better for the game? Do they really think it would be better if less and less people played it?
>>96252300>it's such a shame that this card is completely useless as a commander despite being legendary>"NAH UHHHH YOU CAN DO THESE CONVOLUTED THINGS TO GET IT INTO YOUR HAND TO DISCARD IT AGAIN!!!!">that would be fucking stupid>"IM JUST SAYING YOU CAN!!!!!"
>>96252433They think that because historically magic was better when less people played
>>96252433>Do they really think it would be better if less and less people played it?Bigger audience only equals good for shareholders.
For people who care about the quality of the things they consume, mass market appeal has never been a good thing.
>>96252402>Do they really think Magic the Gathering would be better if every person on the planet played the game?Hell yeah brother, I wanna go to different regions and duel decks that thematically fit the location or the person's profession and listen to rumors about 4 rare autists that wander the world looking for pro card players to fight
>>96243767The artist allegedly makes their art in procreate. They could show how they drew it. I doodle on procreate and it has a feature which records everything that you do while you draw. Watching that that is fun.
>>96251640No, but I do have a land destruction aggro deck I'll put it in.
>fetches
>shocks
>scrys
What next?
man, I think I'm really dropping out of consuming. I had all these cards in the cart but then kept thinking "they'll never go to any deck anyway"
I love tinkering decks and changing them up but couldn't pull the trigger. maybe none of the eoe cards really felt worth it. usually I come here after splurging to diminish that buyers remorse but this time it came before I finished the order. feels kinda good to be able to not just get more cards to dust up on my shelf
thanks for coming to my tedtalk
>>96252526Tri-fetch lands.
>>96252481>They could show how they drew itAnd yet...they have not.
I don't care what an artist could hypothetically do. I am telling you as someone who understands this shit very well, the oddities in that art are not from weird choices or lack of skill, it is an AI literally not having an understanding of what it is trying to depict.
You cannot explain why 2 bones right next to each other that ought to be identical are not.
You cannot explain how the same skeletal feature appears on one bone correctly and then a different bone incorrectly.
You cannot explain why """the artist""" made the """decision""" to make the spinal column disappear below the collar bone, but did not do so for the ribs that are supposed to connect to the spinal column
Again, I get that people who aren't very artistically inclined and think "well yeah, I'm shit at drawing so other people would make completely inexplicable mistakes too!" but artists don't.
You know how they say for kids taking tests in school, when they get caught cheating it's not the questions they got right that flag them for cheating, it's the questions they got wrong. It's that. It's exactly fucking that. The AI is doing things that a person who sits down and even tries to draw a skeleton *poorly* would not think to do.
neat, wonder what the others look like
>>96252526>explore land>look at the bottom card of your library, you may put it on the top of your library land>etb gain a counter of any kind land
>>96252449None of its convoluted anon again it would be a graveyard deck he would just be another part of it. Whether or not it would be great depends on how well you build it but its definitely not convoluted. Plenty of staples do this already, tortex, cemetery, reclamation etc
>>96252564>cast commander from command zone>kill it>goes to grave>recover from grave to hand>cast something to make you discard>discard commander>goes to grave>cast for mayhem cost>"this is not convoluted"
>>96252545I know. I'm also accusing various artists using AI as well. My argument was that if that artist drew it with procreate he could easily show how it's not done with AI by showing that little video. You'll like this one then
>>96252603They traced Henry Cavil?
Why do we even care about mayhem on Carnage? You can just recur him repeatedly with any number of persistence effects. Cast Carnage, cast oversold cemetery, be happy.
>>96252433that is objectively true tho
>>96252607Or this one, no human would draw a magical tv knob like that.
>>96252537>>96252555I worded my question poorly. I meant what lands go in my deck next.
>>96252620oh yeah that's clearly touched up AI trvthe nvke
>>96252613You should kill yourself then. Unironically. One less mtg player. You would make it better for everyone else. Objectively according to you. Go ahead. Do it then.
>>96252460>For people who care about the quality of the things they consume, mass market appeal has never been a good thing.if such people were principled they would play a closed format like premodern and never look back
and yet what actually happens is that these same people (begrudingly) still sleeve up edh and play using the new cards, proving that they do in fact want their cake and eat it too
>>96252591>cast commander>it keeps on recurring things every turn til its removed>when it is you likely have one of your many reanimator staples in your reanimator deck on the board>send him to graveyard, use one of the many staples to get him back to hand potentially even putting fodder in the grave for himThis is all standard stuff, none of its convoluted all of it requires standard reanimator pieces. Is developing your board state and playing the game "convoluted" to you? I weep for your pods
>>96252460they're just hipsters, it's very hard to take seriously the people who were fine swallowing any number of derivative planes so long as the VIN was filed off but IPs people might actually care about is a bridge too far for them.
>>96252632bold of you to assume I play
>>96252631I don't see it, but some redditors thinks this one is touched up ai art as well
>it's Mark Poole, he drew art for mtg for ages, it can't beIs what his defenders are saying
And his art always sucked. His art is surprisingly way better now.
>>96252652so you instead hang around on the mtg thread of the traditional games subforum of a ugandan knuckledusting bbs because you have nothing better to do with your time. personally I wouldn't admit to that sort of behavior
>>96252652You discussing mtg online could influence somebody to start playing mtg. So killing yourself is still helping with the goal of making less people play mtg. My point still stands. Objectively.
>>96252658>always suckedI wouldn't say so. It's was never great but always good and if you look on scryfall by release date you can see a pretty clear progression imo and even some earlier arts that are reminiscent of this.
>>96252635>durrrrrrrr if u like something you should just completely cut yourself off from it and play in your own stagnant little bubbleI hate this shit so much. It wasn't correct when people said it about D&D. It's not correct when people say it about Magic.
If you enjoy something, then it is on you to be vocal about it's future. Just rolling over and saying "welp I guess it'll never be good again, me and whoever I can scrape together to play the game like we used to should all just fuck off and die and let the newfags ruin the thing we loved" is corpo bullshit. Fuck yourself.
>>96252621>tango lands>basics>"etb untapped if you control two or more other lands" lands
>>96252636>>it keeps on recurring things every turn til its removedOhhhhhhhhhhhh! You haven't fucking read the card. It makes sense now.
It's not a fucking attack trigger bud. It is ETB only. It won't fucking recur shit more than once unless you blink it (in rakdos lol).
>b-b-b-but you can reanimate it and thats like blinking for black!!!!!!The card is designed around having a mayhem cost. Mayhem means discarding it and then casting it from graveyard. To get the most out of the card it is better off in the 99 than as a commander.
This is the entire fucking point.
So how am I supposed to end games with zombies? The only real wincons I ever see are looping gravecrawler with phyrexian altar and a blood artist effect, which is kind of lame.
>>96252667I am actively trying to make less people play tho
>>96252678It's just very typical ai architecture/landscape fusion that is happening there in that cave and I hate Poole and other artists like him who can't draw, so I don't really care if I'm wrong
>>96252687with the success of UB with lotr and especially FF there's really no going back
you're just going to have to accept the new state of things like i did
i don't play competitive anymore despite my tenure in modern back in 2011, and i have accepted that mtg is not a game to be taken "seriously", and is a party game now of sorts
bracket 2/3 power level edh, that's what mtg is now
now if you hate the wokeness of the art like black aragorn and the manly women like nu-radha then yes that's a fight worth taking, the success of FF where the women there are pretty and show underarms and midriffs is something wotc can't deny
but there's no more turning back from "the old days, pre FIRE design" anymore is my point
>>96252687Yelling about mtg doing officially licensed IPs is not being vocal about its future, its playing catch-up against the players who have been asking for it for at least as long as I've been playing (1997, which may predate your birth. who knows?)
>>96252702Nta but you talk like a smug redditor
>>96252702>readOkay then skip that step and attack with it, or sac it because again... graveyard reanimator deck thats what they do!
>the pointNo the point is its possible and easy and youre having a little meltdown about it
>>96252707Sure. Doesn't mean that it works. You're making a lot of retarded posts, like you're doing now, which can motivate people to play. Let's pretend for the sake of the argument that you're really good at this. Some might start playing out of spite. So killing yourself is still the best possible way to ensure that none of your posts might encourage more people to play mtg.
>>96252526Pains and filters above all that. Never coming in tapped > all
>>962527091. He can draw https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&dir=asc&order=released&page=2&q=a%3A%E2%80%9CMark+Poole%E2%80%9D&unique=art
2. It has landscape similar to other arts hes done
3. You sound like a fag.
>>96252402Because it helps them vindicate their UBslop beliefs when their "thing" shows up on a funko pop
>>96252433Whoa man, middle ground, grey area, something something
>>96252718everyone needs to be honest and admit that they thought of "hmm what would (IP) be like as a magic card" more than once while at work, UB is just the realization of that
>>96252758There's a subset of people who become compulsive liars on the internet, so you're gonna get hate mail for this one
>>96252739"He can draw" isn't a refutation of "he isn't drawing currently"
Is he doing more are now than he was? Is it obviously not a shift in style? Outside bet is that Wizards could be feeding his and a few other people's art through ai on their own, which would be its own scandal.
>>96252732even if a fraction of the amount I turn away start playing out of spite, those few players are more than likely so irony poisoned that their toxicity ends up turning even more people away from the game. in any case the net players is negative
>>96251429I once flickered him 5 times because my minthara deck just didnt take off, causing chaos for the rest of the table.
It was a very silly time
>>96246164I've really enjoyed Alesha (Fate) as a commander.
I play her with all the fleshbags as her reanimate targets, and then use spells to buff her power to go for larger grave targets.
Its a cheap deck, and mainly uses red looting spells to draw cards and get creatures into the graveyard.
>>96252705Turn 10 trillion zombie tokens sideways and swing. Its simple stuff anon, no need to over complicate it
>>96247229I want to like this but everybody can see it coming from a mile away.
Can't we just continue to use this thread? That schizo meltdown in the other thread is too much for me. Especially the samefaggotry.
>'Multiple' people get accused of being a samefag
>only one guy replies to this accusation
So blatantly obvious.
>>96249118You know what's fucked, we never got a set of basic lands by Akira Toriyama
>>96245653I have more money than you and still buy proxies. What kind of fucking retard is going to spend tens of thousands of dollars to play solitaire with trannies?
>>96248900Fuck you and your trash opinions. Avatar is a modern masterpiece. I will shove cards down your greasy throat if you speak such nonsense again.
>>96249369A set of ciggerette pack lands is actually brilliant. Camel for plains. Newport’s for forest. Marlboro for mountains. Some blue and purple shit for the other two.
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