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Anonymous No.96251668 >>96252293 >>96252641 >>96255518 >>96255638 >>96255703 >>96255868 >>96255946 >>96258463 >>96258604 >>96258625 >>96273433 >>96274427
Fact: Sci-fi campaigns are inherently cooler than fantasy

Proof: Sci-fi can incorporate fantasy elements and only the smelliest autists would complain. If fantasy includes sci-fi elements every normie immediately starts calling it sci-fi instead
Anonymous No.96251703 >>96251823
We need a ban on semanticposting
Anonymous No.96251823 >>96255641
>>96251703
Sorry that sci-fi is too kino for you
>Fantasy: Swords and bows
>Sci-fi: Guns, swords, bows, anything you can think of
Anonymous No.96251869 >>96251909 >>96251943 >>96251954 >>96252325 >>96271968 >>96281407
So, anyone here play any games?
How did your last session/tournament go?
Anonymous No.96251909 >>96252132
>>96251869
Unironically stuck trying to get people through a pub crawl before a giant tournament. Though I blame myself for not being able to wrangle the players properly due to the time zones involved.
Anonymous No.96251943 >>96252132
>>96251869
Played session 101 of my star wars campaign last week. Buddy who had to leave the campaign finally rejoined after a shift in work schedule. The group made plans with a big executive in the Corporate Sector Authority to commit a false flag and blame it on the Hutts and Pyke syndicate. The group really really hates the Pyke syndicate and wants to kneecap them at every opportunity. The executive wants to use the situation to gain enough popularity to eventually become the leader of the CSA.

Also am going to give Custom40k a try later this week
Anonymous No.96251954 >>96252132
>>96251869
My character tried to shield another from an almost certainly lethal explosion because their player couldn't make it, and I know I would absolutely hate it if my character died while I wasn't there. They both lived.
Anonymous No.96252132 >>96252184 >>96252682
>>96251909
Timezones are always a bitch, especially when everyone has to work or has regular family duties.
Hopefully you guys can work out better arrangements for the future.

>>96251943
Part of me wants to look for people to play Star Wars with, but another part feels I wouldn't have the same child-like wonder I would have had if I played when I was younger.
I just don't have as much excitement for it, since Disney worked its magic on it.
But I am glad you have such a long, ongoing campaign going; pretty fucking awesome, and I hope your Custom40k game goes well.

>>96251954
You fucking rock. Selfless deeds are great, but it's even better that nobody died from it.
Anonymous No.96252184
>>96252132
>I just don't have as much excitement for it, since Disney worked its magic on it.
I straight up told my players that this is going to be an AU that ignores the EU and canon and just pulls the stuff from both I like. It's post episode 6 which helps, but it's a ttrpg bud, you can do whatever you want.
Anonymous No.96252293 >>96252858
>>96251668 (OP)
You're begging the question
The conclusion that scifi is better because it includes scifi relies on the unproven assumption that scifi elements are superior to fantasy (they arent)
Anonymous No.96252325
>>96251869
I'm still learning Wrath and Glory with my group. It's a good time, gunning down hordes of peons and getting into duels with Chaos champions
Anonymous No.96252641 >>96252865
>>96251668 (OP)
>Sci-fi can incorporate fantasy elements and
It becomes fantasy. "Science fantasy" is a term that exists, Anon.
Anonymous No.96252682
>>96252132
>Hopefully you guys can work out better arrangements for the future.
I'm going to see if I can arrange a talk this weekend about it, so thank you very much
Anonymous No.96252829
I want to run more science fantasy but I haven't found anything that feels like the mash up I want. It's not as basic as you'd assume.
I feel tempted to just set an open table for Umerica or Ultraviolet Grasslands, but I don't like their systems. I never understood the appeal of magic-cyber-punk like Shadowrun. Much less space explorations with magic creeps.
Anonymous No.96252858
>>96252293
Fantasy doesn’t have a single element that cannot be done better in sci-fi
Anonymous No.96252865 >>96271077
>>96252641
>"Science fantasy" is a term that exists
It's an oxymoron.
Anonymous No.96255518 >>96256520
>>96251668 (OP)
>If fantasy includes sci-fi elements every normie immediately starts calling it sci-fi instead.
so, D&D is sci-fi?
Anonymous No.96255521 >>96255525 >>96255527 >>96255529 >>96255533 >>96255540 >>96255549 >>96255556 >>96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
One of my favorite aesthetics is "overtly fantasy-looking character using a smartphone as an everyday object."
Anonymous No.96255525 >>96255527 >>96255529 >>96255533 >>96255540 >>96255549 >>96255556 >>96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
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Anonymous No.96255529 >>96255533 >>96255540 >>96255549 >>96255556 >>96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
>>96255521
>>96255525
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Anonymous No.96255531 >>96256535
Weird question because there's no sci-fi thread that I know of, but for ships that drop pods, could they fill those pods to the brim to make them heavier and use them for improptu bombardment? I mean, a one-ton projectile falling at over ten klicks per second would be the equivalent of ten MOABs.
Anonymous No.96255533 >>96255540 >>96255549 >>96255556 >>96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
>>96255521
>>96255525
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Anonymous No.96255540 >>96255549 >>96255556 >>96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
>>96255521
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Anonymous No.96255549 >>96255556 >>96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
>>96255521
>>96255525
>>96255527
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Anonymous No.96255556 >>96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
>>96255521
>>96255525
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Anonymous No.96255559 >>96255563 >>96272045
>>96255521
>>96255525
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>>96255529
>>96255533
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>>96255549
>>96255556
This is a form of space fantasy.
Anonymous No.96255563 >>96272045
>>96255521
>>96255525
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Anonymous No.96255638
>>96251668 (OP)
How did your last session go? What system did you play and how is the campaign going over all?
Anonymous No.96255641
>>96251823
>video games
Anonymous No.96255703
>>96251668 (OP)
Alright, thats nice and all, but i just dont feel like laser guns and spaceships and space magic right now, i want pic related with knights with swords and elves bows and dwarves with axes and robed wizards with wooden staffs, so all the other stuff really doesnt matter
Anonymous No.96255868 >>96271135
>>96251668 (OP)
>every normie immediately starts calling it sci-fi instead
Just bash their skulls in with your old Jack Vance stories
Fantasy having scifi elements in it is oldschool and kino, anyone who complains about the secret ultimate weapon that the bad guy was after being a laser rifle, are a no-fun tolkienfag
Only uncreative GMs hand out wands of disintegration, cool GMs give the party a star trek phaser with 1d10 remaining shots, and then lets the caveman party figure out how it works.
Anonymous No.96255946
>>96251668 (OP)
The problem is scifi has worse aesthetics than fantasy.

Fantasy has the aesthetics of all previous eras and cilizations of Mankind plus some "xenos ones", scifi just has the corpo-slop ones. Perhaps in the future it may changes.
Anonymous No.96256295 >>96256541 >>96258866
I just think knights and wizards are cooler than aliens and robots.
Anonymous No.96256520
>>96255518
Everything fantasy is sci-fi, because sci-fi is the main/overarching genre, while fantasy is the sub-genre.
Anonymous No.96256535
>>96255531
It makes no sense to turn drop pods into orbital bombardment munitions. You can use literally anything else for that, including random asteroid chunks, etc.
Anonymous No.96256541 >>96257132
>>96256295
Sci-fi can have knights and wizard
Fantasy cannot have aliens and robots without becoming sci-fi
Anonymous No.96257132
>>96256541
I don't want space knights and space wizards. I want traditional knights and wizards. No amount of "but le sci-fi can do it!" changes that. I'm just not into lasers and space and technology etc. Its really not that hard to understand.
Anonymous No.96258293 >>96258324 >>96258328
> Sci-fi can incorporate fantasy elements and only the smelliest autists would complain

Yep. You don’t even need explicit magic go have the essence of magic. If you want a wizard, just throw in some mad scientist, or some alien sage, etc. Magic doesn’t require much. You just need some mystery, wonder, horror, etc.

But, inb4 β€œshut up wonderfag”, β€œshut up mysteryfag”, etc. Morons don’t even know what magic is anymore.
Anonymous No.96258324
>>96258293
shut up wonderfag even though I entirely agree with you for the most part
Anonymous No.96258328
>>96258293
Glad you understand how much of an obnoxious sperg you truly are, but I'm curious what traditional game are you playing where that's the dichotomy
Anonymous No.96258463 >>96258528 >>96272023
>>96251668 (OP)
>Destiny image
I wish so badly Destiny was literally anything other than the videogame; comic books, a wargame, a pen-and-paper RPG, I wish this cool universe hadn't been mangled into the live service battlepass MMO-lite slop it turned out to be.

Thankfully companies cannot DMCA your imagination (yet) and you could make a Destiny campaign if you wanted. What system would you use for this anons?
Anonymous No.96258528 >>96271987
>>96258463
Personally I would use GENESYS mostly since it's the system I'm playing at the moment. But there exists are DnD 5e conversion called DnDestiny, it makes the most of what you can do with 5e.
Anonymous No.96258604
>>96251668 (OP)
Just look at all the problems with the fantasy genre today and apply it to SciFi:
>Progressive values: it's the future.
>Diversity: it's the future.
>Power scaling: writers actually need to have a defined playing field instead of going 'magic'.
>Exploration: it's space. Or a wasteland. Or a fucking megacity.
I think redditors and other bug men gravitate towards modern Pathfinder fantasy as it feels safer. All problems are solved by magic, the cities are colorful and hip, and you can hang out with your diverse heckin friendorinos. Now apply that to SciFi: problems need actual resources, cities are grey and concrete, your friends are probably more bugmen. You can't snap your fingers and make money appear, your character actually needs to work while glaring at Chad Thunderocket and his bros as they take down a space pirate ring.

That's another thing I've noticed. Fantasy tends to attract bugmen writers with a few notable exceptions like R.E. Howard and maybe Avellone. Science Fiction on the other hand, has a lot more going for it with religious artists such as Robert Miller crafting a pretty thrilling and heartbreaking future history with Leibowitz, the original Star Trek writers were war veterans, Phillip K. Dick was a huge stoner... Even the writers who cross genres aren't uniformly bugmen with Bradbury being something of a Chad and Leguin being an actual woman, and who can forget C.S. Lewis? So SciFi heroes tend to be a lot more mature and... Dare I say... Manly?

Then you get to fantasy and it's G.R.R.M., the stereotypical neckbeard, and his buddies. There's something to the fantasy genre that attracts manchildren. Now there are manchildren that own it like Richard Garriot with Ultima but bros like them are exceptionally rare.
Anonymous No.96258625 >>96258740
>>96251668 (OP)
botw and ffi have tech and these are fine, most people don't have a problem with the setting.
Anonymous No.96258740
>>96258625
They're regarded as gay japshit, so who cares
Anonymous No.96258866
>>96256295
What about alien wizards?
Anonymous No.96267325 >>96272643
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Anonymous No.96271077
>>96252865
Not even slightly. Most fantasy is already science fantasy anyway, as it tries to explain magic and gives it mechanics and systems just like science would.
Anonymous No.96271135
>>96255868
>just give them a used wand of fireball and describe it in detail as grenade launcher

Based post-post-post-apocalypse enjoyed.
Anonymous No.96271968
>>96251869
Making character for WFRP4e now. Had 2 weeks without a game because one of our players was abroad, but now everything seems to be back to usual.
Anonymous No.96271987 >>96272653
>>96258528
>D&D conversion
ew

Genesys is cool, the proprietary dice problem is easily solved with online rollers. It does not really support the looter shooter numbers go up aspect of Destiny though, as it really isn't a "vertical growth" system.
Anonymous No.96272020 >>96276386
>according to OP this is scifi
Anonymous No.96272023
>>96258463
Im slowly writing up a PSO/Destiny/Warframe inspired system, hopefully by the time I have playable version the OP will ACK xirself and stop polluting the discussion so we could talk about sci-fantasy in peace.
Anonymous No.96272045
>>96255521
>>96255525
>>96255527
>>96255529
>>96255533
>>96255540
>>96255549
>>96255556
>>96255559
>>96255563

2hu, is that you? Please continue spamming these threads, we need your autism here.
Anonymous No.96272643
>>96267325
>>96267333
>warhammer is a niche little fantasy setting nobody cares about
>turn it sci-fi
>becomes billion dollar /tg/ juggernaut that defines its genre
Anonymous No.96272653 >>96274093
>>96271987
You either abandon the looter shooter roots and treat Destiny as a setting or you turn it into a board game / virtual tabletop slop like Lancer
Anonymous No.96273433
>>96251668 (OP)
>Twilight 2000
>Gurps
>Traveller
I have yet to find games that make guns work besides these ones. Most people don't want to play them anyway.
Anonymous No.96274093
>>96272653
While it's definitely kinda gamist, I'm taking some inspiration from Ryuutama. Basically the game supports both straight up dungeoneering and exploration/discovery gameplay. So managing limited resources and braving environmental dangers with some fighting inbetween.
Anonymous No.96274427
>>96251668 (OP)
Anonymous No.96276386 >>96276578
>>96272020
The setting literally has space ships, space travel, robots, sentient AI, cyborgs, etc. all in the same universe. It is and was kitchen sink pulpy science fantasy from its inception. Even if there were no non-fantasy elements in it, fantasy is the sub-genre within the genre of sci-fi, therefore every fantasy is sci-fi, but not every sci-fi is a fantasy. It's really not a difficult concept to understand.
Anonymous No.96276578
>>96276386
>fantasy is the sub-genre within the genre of sci-fi
It's not difficult to understand, just wrong.
Anonymous No.96281407
>>96251869
Quite awesome. I got to be a player again after a few years of perma GMing. Even in a system I was eager to try out. Since the background of the class I was aiming for and the lore of the place the campaign was set in lend itself to it I made my own little redneck elf. Also I can't help but find the pic related little junky just too cute.